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SirGalahad

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Re: Ancient candidates for socialism
« on: April 06, 2022, 11:44:00 pm »
@90sRetroFan "Yes. Of course those who dislike the leader must be allowed to emigrate (renouncing their citizenship in the process)."

What would you say to those who don't like the current leader, and at the same time don't wish to emigrate because they claim to prefer their current culture and people over that of any other country they could possibly emigrate to? I agree on paper that everyone should be ruled in the way that they prefer, and I'm personally aware that any sort of culture outside of Aryan culture is an abstraction that isn't worth emphasizing over something far more important like form of leadership. But it feels more complicated than that, since people can just say, for example, "I love Afghanistan, but I just don't like the current leader or the form of leadership. Why do the Taliban get to say what Afghanistan is?" And that would lead to three options:

1. They begrudgingly stay in their current country and accept the current regime, which in a way hurts the folkish sorting.

2. They attempt to overthrow the current regime and install their own regime. (This isn't ideal because assuming that survivalism is out of the equation, it would likely trigger a chain of successive overthrows and regime changes that accomplish very little.)

3. They secede and form another separate state (Kind of like the whole North Korea and South Korea situation, if South Korea happened to be equally as autocratic). This isn't ideal either, for obvious reasons.

Again, I agree with you on paper, I just don't think I'm well-equipped enough to confidently say "Just emigrate if you don't like the current regime" and be able to defend that position in a way I'd find satisfactory, upon further questioning.

"Similarly, this is why arranged marriage is not necessarily traditionalist. It could also be based on awareness that those who would make the best spouses are usually those whose personality is such that they will refuse to date on their own initiative, whereas those willing to put a lot of effort into dating usually make terrible spouses."

I agree with the very last part, but aren't arranged marriages unromantic, since the person in question isn't being given the freedom to potentially find and marry the person that they instinctively know they love enough to pledge life-long loyalty to? Also, arranged marriages are almost always set up by parents, who obviously forfeit the right to have any say in their child's life, the moment that they conceive.
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