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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2022, 08:52:47 pm »
With the issue of residential schools recently raised:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/canada-residential-schools/

here is our enemies' perspective:

https://www.eurocanadians.ca/2022/06/the-myth-of-the-native-american-mass-graves.html

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Did you know that the children of the nomadic Siberian Nenets tribe are sent to boarding school for nine months each year to learn the basics of civilization?
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Does this mean they are coerced? Of course not. It’s not the evil civilized White people forcing them. Like all responsible parents, Nenet parents who want the best for their children, know very well that they need to learn how to live in the modern world.

I agree that the Nenet parents betrayed their offspring by not waging total war on the "whites" to the death rather than submitting to the previously nonexistent institution of compulsory schooling. But this does not exonerate the "whites" from declaring the schools to be compulsory in the first place. The children were indeed coerced, by a combination of "white" oppression and their own parents' cowardice.

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After their education which lasts several years, most of them do not want to return to the tundra. The most gifted become lawyers, doctors, or researchers, the others find a job of some kind and integrate themselves into the society that raised them. Nobody forces them. They themselves choose where they want to live and how. And that’s a good thing.

Did they get to choose whether or not to receive schooling in the first place? They did not. They were forced. To say they choose how to live after their compulsory education is no different than saying victims of torture choose to cooperate with their torturers after the torture.

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Russians have great respect for the hundreds of ethnic groups that have lived on their territory since time immemorial. They want things to go well and everyone to be happy.

Oh please:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/msg7661/#msg7661

Continuing:

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And so did the Missionaries who taught the Aboriginals in residential schools. By vocation they were also sincerely concerned about their students who just like the Nenets were to be civilized for their own good.

A.k.a. it's OK for missionaries to be "white".

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Since their parents lived in the wilderness sometimes far from the boarding schools, they could not be sent back to their families on weekends as they would today. There were no roads or buses. In order to adapt them as well as possible, it made more sense to keep these children in boarding school for several months.

It would have made most sense for schools to not be compulsory.

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But despite this long stay away from their parents, many of them like the prominent Aboriginal playwright Tomson Highway and the late band chief Cece Hodgson-McCauley greatly enjoyed their time at their schools. “Nine of the happiest years of my life were spent at that school…some people have been badmouthing residential schools for money,” the chief told the Huffington Post and CBC. (1)

Fine, let those who enjoy school attend voluntarily and let those who do not enjoy school not be forced to attend.

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At the time of the so-called mass graves, the child mortality rate was close to 40%. Aboriginal people were less resistant to disease than Europeans. Residential schools were overcrowded and hygiene was sometimes poor. Malnutrition, tuberculosis, typhus, Spanish flu (1917-1921) and several other infectious diseases were rampant. There were no antibiotics to treat them. Is it any wonder that many died? Of course not!

In other words, their deaths could have been avoided if the schools were less crowded, and the schools would have been less crowded if attendance had not been compulsory.

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Truth be told, before their evangelization and education in boarding schools by missionaries, Native Americans were not noble, good, kind, or innocent as portrayed in the movie. They were savages of unprecedented cruelty; primitives who practiced cannibalism and slavery; warriors who spent their time fighting over territory.

No one is claiming Native Americans are flawless (just earlier in this post I was calling them cowards). Nevertheless, cannibalism of war enemies is far better than killing innocent victims expressly for the purpose of eating them. "Whites" were also practicing slavery and fighting over territory. But Native Americans did not have compulsory schooling. So who are worse?

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You can easily see this hatred of White Catholics and Whites in general almost on a daily basis in the media and in the movies.

For good reason!
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