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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2022, 08:42:46 am »
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Wis. school board members dismissed book about Japanese American incarceration as being ‘unbalanced,’ parents say

The members said including the book would require perspective from the U.S. government, the parents allege.
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Zielke said she reached out to two board members for a rationale and eventually had a conversation the next month with Boyer, who sits on the committee. She said that in the exchange, Boyer said adding the book — alongside the class’ existing inclusion of “Farewell to Manzanar,” a separate memoir about Japanese American incarceration during WWII — to the curriculum created an “unbalanced” account of history.

Zielke said she was told “we can’t just provide one side or the other side” before the parent pressed Boyer about the issue, demanding the board member clarify her definition of “other.”

“What she said to me was that we actually need an ‘American’ perspective,’” said Zielke, who said she pointed out that those who were incarcerated were, in fact, Americans, before the conversation grew increasingly heated.

“She clarified and said that she felt that we needed the perspective of the American government and why Japanese internment happened. And so then again, we had raised voices at this point. I told her specifically, I said, ‘The other side is racism.’”
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Brett Hyde, another board member, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he sensed board members felt that the perspective presented in Otsuka’s novel too closely mirrored that of “Farewell to Manzanar” and suggested material related to the bombing of Pearl Harbor to provide “some history as to why the citizens of Japanese descent were viewed as a threat and what was the reasoning to have them put into the internment camps.”
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 She said the committee took particular issue with how the book was chosen to bring a diverse perspective into the curriculum.
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“At one point, Terri Boyer, in the meeting, did say, ‘How would you feel if they were only allowed to choose books by white people?’” Hapeman said.
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Hapeman added that the committee’s comments in the meeting “pointed to their understanding or their belief that the fact that this book came from a diverse perspective meant that the committee that chose it was discriminating against white people.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/wisc-school-board-members-dismissed-book-japanese-american-incarcerati-rcna35948

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Otsuka added that reading stories from a diversity of communities is a “radical act of empathy” that can only serve to benefit all students.

A genuinely radical act of empathy would involve ending the bloodlines of all those who supported putting Americans in concentration camps (and those who want to prevent books about it from being taught).



For "balance", here is the US government perspective on the matter:
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The movement's first success was in 1976, when President Gerald Ford proclaimed that the internment was "wrong", and a "national mistake" which "shall never again be repeated".[225] President Ford signed a proclamation formally terminating Executive Order 9066 and apologized for the internment, stating: "We now know what we should have known then—not only was that evacuation wrong but Japanese-Americans were and are loyal Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans

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In 1980, under the Carter administration, Congress established the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians (CWRIC) to study the matter. On February 24, 1983, the commission issued a report entitled Personal Justice Denied, condemning the internment as unjust and motivated by racism and xenophobic ideas rather than factual military necessity.[228]

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In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/08/09/210138278/japanese-internment-redress

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... we can take a clear stand for justice and recognize that serious injustices were done to Japanese Americans during World War II.
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-George H. W. Bush, 1990.
https://digital.case.edu/islandora/object/ksl%3Akk91fr96f

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Mochizuki v. United States 43 Fed. Cl. 97 (1999) was a class action lawsuit brought by survivors of Japanese Latin Americans interned during World War II by the United States government. The lawsuit alleged forcible kidnapping and imprisonment. In a settlement, the government conceded it erred and allocated $5,000 each for survivor, as well as a formal apology from then-President Bill Clinton.[1][2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochizuki_v._United_States

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Almost 80 years later, California will apologize formally to Japanese Americans for its role in what became the largest single forced relocation in US history.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/17/us/california-apology-japanese-internment-trnd/index.html


By the way, in 2021, Wisconsin passed a law requiring "Holocaust education". I doubt they include National Socialist perspectives (or merely the perspectives of non-Zionist historians) on the matter. So much for "needing" to provide a "balance" of both sides. LOL.


...Or, maybe, just maybe... (This happened in Ohio).
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When I was interviewing a lawmaker about her bill that would ban “divisive concepts” being taught in school, she said we should hear “both sides” of Holocaust.

She said we should hear the “German soldier” pov.

Here is my full investigation
https://twitter.com/MorganTrau/status/1545537009091051520

These WN politicians would be disappointed to learn the actual NS perspective:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/national-socialism-is-revolutionary-not-reactionary/

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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2022, 08:12:48 pm »
Our enemies reminisce their past through literature:

https://vdare.com/posts/vanity-fair-by-william-makepeace-thackeray

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I finally finished reading the 1848 novel Vanity Fair. A few comments:

It’s extremely enjoyable.
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One thing I noticed again in reading Vanity Fair about English society is that up to a certain point in the 19th century, you could get very rich in positions of authority with nobody questioning it. For example, Amelia’s brother Joseph is a tax collector for the British East India Company and has gotten very rich at it.  (Obviously, the chance of dying of fever in India was quite high, which was some justification for the lavish fortunes made there.)

The English liked giving large financial rewards to people who succeeded in positions of authority. For example, John Churchill was rewarded for winning the War of the Spanish Succession with a Dukedom and the promise from Parliament of 250,000 pounds, enough to get started on building a 300,000 square-foot palace at Blenheim. About the last example I can remember of this is General Douglas Haig being granted 100,000 pounds after the Great War. After WWII, in contrast, Field Marshall Montgomery got many honors but little cash.

England had kind of a piratical culture (as illustrated in the Aubrey-Maturin novels by the incentives given Royal Navy captains to capture enemy shipping).
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In Evelyn Waugh‘s novels, every young man of fashion owes a fortune to his tailor but is putting off the day he’ll have to go butter up his disapproving father to get him to pay off his tailor.

It seems as if tailors and landlords in pre-WWII England had to stay up on society gossip over whether their customers and tenants still had good prospects of inheriting fortunes someday or whether they had fallen out of favor with their rich elderly relatives. Becky Sharp and her husband, a baronet’s son, live like lords on debt for a number of years despite little income beside what Becky’s husband can win as a poolshark and cardsharper. But small businessmen were willing to bet that their knowledge of the Crawley family inheritance dynamics was accurate enough to guesstimate that they’d eventually be bequested enough to pay off their landlord and victualers without having to flee to Europe to avoid debtor’s prison (with the accompanying ruination of their small creditors).

Life was full of interest back then.

Life (for "whites") was full of "whiteness" back then.

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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2022, 05:52:28 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/indian-country-must-push-back-214916402.html

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Indian Country Must Push Back on Conservative Attempts to Whitewash Boarding School History
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About thirty years ago, I made a deal with myself to read at least one book a year written by a conservative right-winger so that I could try to understand the rationale behind their positions on race relations and governmental policy. As the years flew by and the United States became extremely polarized, I stopped reading conservative writings because I found many of their arguments lacked merit and were, quite often, mean-spirited and laced with paternalistic attitudes towards people of color.

So this past Monday when one of my business partners sent me a link to an article entitled “Stirring Up Hatred Against Indian Boarding Schools: The Interior Department joins the movement to rebrand education as cultural genocide,” I read with some hesitation. Published by The American Conservative, the article was written by one of the magazine’s senior editors, Helen Andrews.

Andrews takes issue with the Federal Indian Boarding School Initiative Investigative Report that was released on May 11, 2022. She accuses the U.S. Department of the Interior of making a big deal out of nothing.

“This attempt to create a national scandal over Indian boarding schools is a thoroughly political scheme contrived by activists to stoke outrage regardless of the facts. No surprise there, because that is what the issue has always been, from the very beginning,” Andrews writes.

“The strange thing about the residential schools outrage is that for decades the issue simply did not exist,” she continues.

Andrews is dead wrong. Native Americans have known the boarding school issue existed for more than a century.
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The justification of the piece seems to be: Indian boarding schools were needed to bring Native Americans in from the dark ages.
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“The investigation into the experience of American Indians forcibly removed from their homes and subjected to assimilation mills that used brainwashing tactics to strip away culture, language, spirituality, identity, and make no mistake treaty and trust obligations is not about blame but about reconciliation and healing,” Dr. Payment told me. “This political hate movement of anti-critical race theory is a dog whistle and attempt at moral and ethical absolution of the past. Manifest destiny was used to justify raping the land and stealing from the indigenous people as God’s will.  We all own a piece of our past and all own the responsibility to learn from it so we can truly live in a free and just society.”

While conservatives often crow loudly about freedom and individual liberties, they seem to want no part in discussing freedoms and liberties that were stripped from Native Americans over the course of two centuries. The Indian boarding school discussion evidently makes some conservatives, like Andrews, uncomfortable.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/canada-residential-schools/

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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2022, 07:08:50 pm »
Previously:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg12408/#msg12408

More people are talking about it now:

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Letters to the Editor: Pope Francis, please denounce the 'Doctrine of Discovery'
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The tragic boarding school issue is but a symptom of something more insidious. One of the articles you published on the pope's apology mentioned the Doctrine of Discovery and its papal origin. It was a legal concept that legitimized and advanced the European colonization of much of the world.

In 1455, Pope Nicholas V granted Portugal's King Alfonso V and other European colonizers the right to "invade, search out, capture, vanquish … and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery."
The driving force was largely not religious; it was, rather, driven by more secular appetites cloaked in religious intent.

This concept was adopted into U.S. law by our own Supreme Court in 1823 in Johnson vs. McIntosh. This nefarious doctrine should be acknowledged and repudiated, but instead it remains a skeleton in our nation's closet.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/msg14867/#msg14867

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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2022, 10:17:48 pm »
Cultural appropriation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cree-singer-reflects-speaking-law-011359391.html

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TORONTO (Reuters) - A Cree woman who captured global attention with her anguished song before Pope Francis on Monday said she was moved to do so when he donned a gifted feathered headdress without first removing his skullcap - something she saw as disrespectful.
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"He didn’t remove his law before allowing our law to be placed on his head," she told Reuters by phone from Winnipeg, adding the pope could have given the headdress back instead.

Further evidence of Francis' utter lack of sincerity (along with the wrongness of gifting him the headdress in the first place), as already pointed out here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg14874/#msg14874

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Re: Colonial Crimes
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2022, 07:48:40 am »
National Socialism ≠ Nazism

Aryan ≠ 'White'.

Race = Quality && Race ≠ Ethnicity.

History is written by the victors.

The truth fears no investigation.

(He) who controls the past controls the future; (he) who controls the present controls the past.

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« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2022, 03:25:30 pm »
Reminds me of a "white" reviewer exposed on social media for, I **** you not, complaining about her trip being ruined because the tour guide of a plantation talked about what happened on plantations:



It's all well and good that you didn't want to hear about something negative during what should have been a relaxing time. Most people, "white" or non-white, wouldn't want to hear about slavery all too much if that were their intention. The issue here is that you're "white" enough to think that a plantation would make for a relaxing tour in the first place. And even "whiter" to make visiting different plantations a regular thing for your family. "We came to get this history of a southern plantation-" but not the "black" history, right? I guess it's okay for history to be "white"
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2022, 07:29:15 pm »
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"...The tour guide was so radical about slave treatment we felt we were being lectured and bashed about the slavery. My ancestors were from Sicily, never owned slaves..."

Answer :

But the Italians during colonial era worked together with the European colonialist nations which also commited slavery. But of course he care more about vacation rather than the truth.

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"...and my husbands were German, and none of his ever owned slaves. ..."
Answer :

As long as the Germans did not seriously to make their people understand the horrors of colonialism and slavery through make it explained more and detail on their education institution and their historical forum. He still taken responsibility to be lectured... Until now the Germany, and other European nations even not take their evil colonial history seriously to it's citizens. Only the Holocaust history which still considered as "controversial" which lectured to their citizens in detail...

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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2022, 04:25:01 pm »
More on the Doctrine of Discovery:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/doctrine-discovery-led-displacement-native-100015606.html

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How did the King of Spain acquire a valid title to land in Alachua and neighboring counties, where Creek and Seminole people were then living?

The answer is the doctrine of discovery. In 1493 Pope Alexander VI, the notorious Borgia Pope, divided the Americas, Africa and Asia between Spain and Portugal on the grounds that their navigators had discovered the Western Hemisphere and sub-Saharan Africa.

An earlier Papal decree, Romanus Pontifex, which was issued and reissued by several of his predecessors, had established the right of the King of Portugal "to invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens (i.e. Muslims) and pagans whatsoever, and all dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery, and to apply and appropriate to himself and his successors the kingdoms, dukedoms, counties, principalities, dominions, possessions, and goods."

These documents together gave European Christians exclusive rights to the land and resources of the rest of the world. They were a charter for enslaving and exploiting the people of Africa, Asia and America.

In other words, Vatican ethics matches Vatican aesthetics:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg3961/?topicseen#msg3961

Continuing:

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We might dismiss them as historic curiosities except that Chief Justice John Marshall invoked both Papal documents in a unanimous Supreme Court decision in 1823 that established the right of the United States to dispose of the lands occupied by Native American tribes and of the people themselves. Marshall held that the doctrine of discovery gave European nations an absolute right to New World lands that they ceded to the United States by treaty.

Manifest Destiny is really just a limited application of the Doctrine of Discovery. I also suspect that the Doctrine of Discovery is is what MTG etc. are really thinking about when they refer to themselves as "Christian nationalists":

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/judeo-christian-theocracy-supporters-in-the-us-(dominionists)/msg15167/#msg15167

Continuing:

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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote in a unanimous Supreme Court decision in 2005 that, "Under the doctrine of discovery title to the lands occupied by Indians when the colonists arrived became vested in the sovereign — first the discovering European nations and later the original states and the United States."

Hence:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg14333/?topicseen#msg14333

Continuing:

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The idea that sovereignty over North America belonged to the King of England or the King of Spain, who transferred their right to the United States by treaty, was too attractive to be set aside. Following the precedent set in earlier cases and appealing to international law, the Supreme Court determined in 1835 that the King of Spain's grant to the Arredondos was valid.

Which proves the need for:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/legal-decolonization/

Continuing:

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The Seminoles who had lived and farmed in Alachua County had already been forced from their homes under the Treaty of Moultrie Creek (1823) and would soon be sent on the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma under the Indian Removal Act (1830) and the Treaty of Payne's Landing (1832).

The first coffles of enslaved Africans were already on the march from South Carolina. This is the story embedded in the title to your property and mine.
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2022, 10:08:14 pm »
https://us.yahoo.com/entertainment/america-first-crowd-sure-seems-192026022.html

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The America First Crowd Sure Seems to Love British Colonialism Now That the Queen Is Dead
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Tucker Carlson responded to the news on Thursday by praising Great Britain for “taking over the world,” arguing that the empire “was not perfect, but it was far more humane than any other, ever.”

“It’s gone now, barely even remembered,” the Fox News host continued. “Queen Elizabeth II was the last living link to a truly great Britain.” He then went on a screed about how Africa was better off when it was controlled by white people.


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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene
@RepMTG
The death of the Queen is the end of an era.

An era, in which, the world prospered more than any other time in history.

May she Rest In Peace.


Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk echoed Carlson and Greene on Friday. “British colonialism actually made the world decent,” he said after giddily announcing that the topic will “make the media lose their mind.”

“Certain cultures are better than others,” Kirk said after citing everything from the Magna Carta to Shakespeare. “Saying that out loud is a thought crime. British colonialism was the most benign global empire ever.”

The “certain culture are better than others” bit gets to the heart of the conservative defense of British imperialism, in that “certain” boils down to “white” and “others” boils down to “non-white.”

Steve King — the former Iowa representative with a rich history of racism — summed it up a little more explicitly on an MSNBC panel ahead of the 2016 election. “I’d ask you to go back through history and figure out, where are these contributions that have been made by these other categories of people that you’re talking about, where did any other subgroup of people contribute more to civilization?” he said in response to a comment about how the Republican Party is run by white people.
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King reminded us, too. “Western Civilization is superior,” he wrote on Friday.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonial-crimes-dw-documentary/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/nigeria/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/cameroon/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/jamaica/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/new-zealand/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/the-opium-wars-part-1-foreign-mud/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/indian-rebellion-1857/



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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2022, 01:06:06 pm »
How are Aryanists supposed to respond to the idiotic platitudes 'Blacks sold their fellow blacks into slavery' and 'The Arabs had slaves and no one talks about them'?
National Socialism ≠ Nazism

Aryan ≠ 'White'.

Race = Quality && Race ≠ Ethnicity.

History is written by the victors.

The truth fears no investigation.

(He) who controls the past controls the future; (he) who controls the present controls the past.

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« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2022, 02:08:24 pm »
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/leftist-vs-rightist-moral-circles/msg15202/#msg15202

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I said that the muslims were fair on enslave people, all of people from any racial-background can be muslims's slaves. Different to how the "White Europeans" see who can be slaves

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I'm explained to him that indeed all groups of people commited slavery. But the racist slavery was uniquely only did by "White Europeans" during colonial era.

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I'm already explained the hypocrisy of "White Europeans" when they did war and enslaved their opponents. They only enslaved and tortured ruthlessly the "colored", but kept freeing "whites"

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I explained to him that if the "White Europeans" were just during that time, they rather colonize and enslave their fellow "whites" rather than the other "colored" people.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/leftist-vs-rightist-moral-circles/msg15303/#msg15303

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And I also explained to him that the "Africans" and "Arabs" did not enslaved the another people with specific "racial" category too like how the "White Europeans" behave.

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the Turks were enslaved people from all "racial" backgrounds, so they more fair than how the "White Europeans" enslaved the conquered people.

The above follows the line of argument that we have long advocated:

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Western slavery was indeed more despicable than other chattel institutions (including Roman) throughout history because it alone exhibited willingness to do to “non-whites” what it had already recognized was wrong for “whites”.

and which is now also found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#Slavery_in_Africa_and_the_New_World_contrasted

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In general, slavery in Africa was not heritable—that is, the children of slaves were free—while in the Americas, children of slave mothers were considered born into slavery. This was connected to another distinction: slavery in West Africa was not reserved for racial or religious minorities, as it was in European colonies

Indeed, the very statement by our enemies:

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'Blacks sold their fellow blacks into slavery'

tacitly reminds us that "whites" did not sell their fellow "whites" into slavery (yet were happy to buy and sell "non-white" slaves, because "non-whites" were not viewed as fellows)! So who is worse?

Similarly, meat-eating humans who refuse to consume human meat are far more morally despicable than meat-eating humans who at least have no problem with consuming human meat also.

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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2022, 11:46:03 pm »
Why the Arabs were doing something racially discriminative in the past. The answer is the ideology which written by the website author below :

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Pre-modern forms of anti-blackness in the Muslim world shared differences but also unsettling similarities to modern anti-black racism. Among their similarities, anti-blackness in the pre-modern Muslim world contained within its ideological repertoire: Aristotelian theories of natural slavery, the Hamitic myth, actual systems of enslavement, geoclimatic racial determinism (derived from the ancient Egyptian and Greco-Roman Mediterranean-centric worldview)

He also writes how the "blacks" were still attempted to be treated fairly in the Islamic Empire's territory

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There is also the example of blacks being enslaved for military and domestic work from Al-Andalus/Morocco to Ottoman lands, Southern Iran, and even the Indian coast. At the same time, black statesmen, generals, prominent scholars and everyday people in these very same places existed as dignified individuals and fully as themselves. Islamicate civilization in Sudanic Africa, or Bilad al-Sudan, is a testament to the ways in which Islam in what we now call Africa flourished. Sudanic Africa attained a high level of civilizational organization in an indigenous way without a systemic external imposition of said civilization coming from so-called foreigners like Turks, Arabs or Persians.

And, according to the written contents from the writer. The "blacks" were originally indigenous to the "North Africa", but they got marginalized because of that ideology. See this written content below :

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The millennia-old indigeneity of black peoples in North Africa, the Levant and the Gulf, for example, has been erased in mainstream consciousness due to Eurocentric nationalist narratives and geographies that created binaries along the Saharan desert and Red Sea that had not existed in the same way in the past. These modern forms of anti-blackness have both added to and subsumed the pre-existing prejudices in various regions which had earlier been less systematic or even non-existent.

Source : https://themaydan.com/2020/10/anti-blackness-in-the-muslim-world-beyond-apologetics-and-orientalism/

So, the racism of "Arabs" to the "blacks" was not because of Islamic teachings or something but the ancient White Nationalist ideology, I mean Aristotelianism and "Hamitic Myth" or "Curse of Ham" verses from the Old Testament holy book.

Europe, the "civilized world" and democracy are the problem...
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Re: Colonialism as viewed by Westerners
« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2022, 12:28:12 am »
For the record, Arab slave owners did have a tendency towards Eurocentrism:

https://academic.oup.com/book/10928/chapter-abstract/159193837

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White female slaves were more expensive than black ones and they were rarely used for rough labor and filled higher positions in domestic and administrative employment.

as our enemies are also happy to report:

https://www.amren.com/features/2017/02/black-slavery-middle-east/

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Among domestic slave women, blacks performed menial work while whites tended to be personal attendants of their owners. White slave women cost between three and ten times more than brown-skinned Abyssinian women; black slave women cost half to one-third the cost of brown slave women. [9]

So Arab slave owners were not fair either. But they way in which they were unfair was not ethnotribalist, but instead Eurocentrist.

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« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2022, 09:22:01 pm »
Our enemies openly and fondly reminisce about the times when "whites" ruled Memphis:

https://www.amren.com/features/2022/09/the-great-replacement-memphis/

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According to a report from the Freedman’s Bureau, which some might consider biased, Irish police forced blacks off the sidewalk and a fight resulted. The next day, there appeared “a crowd of colored men, principally discharged soldiers, many of whom were more or less intoxicated.” A few were “very noisy and boisterous.” Police tried to arrest the men but were attacked by “Negroes” who tried “to rescue their comrades.” One white policeman accidentally shot himself in the confusion and died. The Freedman’s Bureau reports that:

    About this time the police fired upon unoffending Negroes remote from the riotous quarter. Colored soldiers with whom the police first had trouble had returned in the meantime to Fort Pickering. The police was soon reinforced and commenced firing on the colored people, men, women and children, in that locality, killing and wounding several.

    Shortly after, the City Recorder (John C. Creighton) arrived upon the ground (corner of Causey and Vance Streets) and in a speech which received three hearty cheers from the crowd there assembled, councilled and urged the whites to arm and kill every Negro and drive the last one from the city. Then during this night the Negroes were hunted down by police, firemen and other white citizens, shot, assaulted, robbed, and in many instances their houses searched under the pretense of hunting for concealed arms, plundered, and then set on fire, during which no resistance so far as we can learn was offered by the Negroes.


The report says that whites attacked blacks for days
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Whites kept blacks out of politics through various “disenfranchising acts” passed by the state, including a poll tax and strict registration requirements. The Memphis Appeal-Avalanche wrote on March 7, 1892 that Memphis was the “most orderly city of its size on the continent,” boasting an efficient police administration and the “safety of life and property here having come to be a matter of fame.” It wrote this after the “Curve lynching,” a case promoted by muckraker Ida B. Wells, and the first lynching in the city after the Civil War.

Safety of whose life and property?

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A white mob lynched Thomas Moss, Calvin McDowell, and Henry Stewart who, according to Wells, owned a grocery store called “The Curve.” There was a fight at the store between blacks and whites, which the whites reportedly lost. They vowed to “clean out” the grocery, and the store posted guards. The guards shot at whites who were supposedly raiding the shop, but they were said to be a sheriff and plainclothes deputies.

On March 6, 1892, The Appeal-Avalanche called what ensued “a bloody riot,” and wrote a colorful tale of blacks storing weapons and holding secret meetings. According to Wells, frenzied press coverage about a black conspiracy to kill whites led to a mob lynching the black men, who “had committed no crime.” She concluded that lynching was “an excuse to get rid of Negroes who were acquiring wealth and property and thus keep the race terrorized and ‘keep the n—– down.’”

Classic racist projection.

Yet to our enemies, what is lamentable is not that all of the above happened, but that "non-whites" also remember that all of the above happened and hence understandably do not like "whites":

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In 1980, there was still a slim white majority of 51.3 percent. By 1990, just 43.7 percent of residents were white; in 2000, 34.4 percent, in 2010, 29.4 percent, in 2020, just 27.9 percent.

As blacks took power, they erased white history. In 2013, the city council renamed three parks that honored Confederates. In 2017, it removed a statue of General Nathan Bedford Forrest and in 2020, it decided to dig him and his wife up rebury them 200 miles away. Even Andrew Jackson isn’t safe in Memphis. In 2021, the Memphis Brooks Museum of Art removed a picture of President Andrew Jackson from display.

When the Forrest statue came down, then-mayor of Memphis, a black man named A.C. Wharton, explained that the general was from “a time gone by,” one that’s “not a time to be honored.”
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Tucker Carlson talked about Memphis recently in a powerful monologue. He spoke about the city’s past glories, when it still honored the history that so embarrassed former Mayor Wharton.

When our enemies unambiguously tell us who they are, we should believe them.