Author Topic: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism  (Read 2138 times)

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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
« on: June 23, 2022, 05:41:31 pm »
Honestly, at this point, I think it's preferable to prove why anti-tribalism and anti-ethnocentrism should be and in fact are key tenets of our ideology, than to prove that Hitler himself was opposed to ethnocentrism. Some of the reasonings provided on the main website for Hitler being opposed to it are convincing, but some of them aren't. I think Aryanism should be able to stand on its own without Hitler, because even after debunking some of the myths conjured by the West against Hitler's regime, I think that the National Socialism of that era was too mired in ethnocentrism. Regardless of whether Mein Kampf was just a publicity stunt or not, it's still the main book that Hitler wrote and was explicitly Nordicist, and Alfred Rosenberg's "The Myth of the 20th Century" also talked about a Nordic race and identified the Aryans with the Indo-Europeans, which is a big no-no for us, given what we now know about the Indo-Europeans. The Indo-Europeans/Vedics were practically the opposite of Aryans. A lot of the people that Hitler surrounded himself with were ethnocentrists in general. That's not to say that Hitler wasn't different from the white tribalists of his time, because he most certainly was. He was clearly a different breed from the likes of Winston Churchill and others of the past who supported western colonialism and racism. But I think there are a few key issues that can't go ignored.

My biggest issue with the narrative of "Hitler was just trying to appeal to the masses, who were mostly racist at the time" is this: How were the communists able to promote an anti-ethnocentric worldview in predominantly white countries at the same exact time as the National Socialists then? If they could do it, then logically, nothing precluded Hitler from promoting an anti-ethnocentric racial theory within Germany if he so desired. But he didn't, so Occam's Razor says that it's most likely that he just didn't know enough about racial theory to form the same conclusions that we have, and ended up falling into the trappings of ethnocentrism because of that informational gap, or perhaps just straight up due to bias

Great points! It would have been interesting to see where Hitler took his National Socialism had he not had to fight the Soviets and Bolshevism. Hitler and Goebbels made some excellent points though in the 12 years National Socialism existed, they certainly laid a solid foundation for an ideology to be built upon.