Author Topic: National Socialists were socialists  (Read 4194 times)

Blue Kumul

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Re: National Socialists were socialists
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2022, 09:11:08 am »
Ah, a lot of stuff to refute here:

1. Romanticism can be both left-wing and right-wing phenomenon. Romantics always exalt the heart above reason, irrational belief above rational enquiry and the remote past above modernity. This can lead to anarchism (Leftist) or to traditionalism (Rightist). You are correct that Hitler was a romantic, but he was a totalitarian, right-wing romantic. Dugin is another example. Compare him with William Blake, who represented a freedom oriented, proto-anarchist form of Romanticism.

2. Being against colonialism is not a good definition of leftism. Some European right-wing identitarians are also against colonialism. They see Europe as the natural habitat of White people, and also the Middle East as the natural habitat of Arabs and sub-Saharan Africa as the natural habitat of Blacks. This is a stance known as "pan-nationalism", which could be also called rightist internationalism.

My definition of Leftism is being opposed to hierarchy. In terms of economics, this means socialism. In terms of culture, this means support for social freedom (inclusivity). In terms of foreign policy this means belief that all ethnicities and cultures are equal. This cannot include Hitler, who believed that Jews and Slavs are inferior to Germans because of their innate characteristics.

3. It is possible to quote Mein Kampf selectively to show Hitler as a forerunner of post-WW2 American counterculture, just as it is possible to quote the Koran and Hadith selectively to show that Mohammed was a peaceful preacher.

"Would you say analogous things to Communists and supporters of "Enlightenment" liberalism/democracy whenever they speak positively of their views? (Personally, I do find their constant rehabilitation of their ideologists and dogmatic devotion to their failed ideologies to be creepy.)"

Whitewashing Lenin and Stalin is just as creepy as what you are doing here.