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« on: March 12, 2021, 01:17:36 am »
https://us.yahoo.com/huffpost/maori-politician-crown-racism-033454875.html

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The co-leader of New Zealand’s Māori Party didn’t mince words Tuesday when asked about Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s revelation that the royal family were concerned about the color of their baby’s skin before he was born.

“The Crown? I mean, I don’t know why everyone’s so surprised that the Crown’s racist,” said Debbie Ngārewa-Packer, a member of New Zealand’s Parliament who leads the Māori Party alongside Rawiri Waititi.
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A video of the moment, captured by Newshub, was shared on social media, earning the lawmaker praise for her incisive reply.

Ngārewa-Packer has been a fierce critic of the Crown. In her maiden speech to Parliament last year, she condemned the historic treatment of New Zealand’s Māori people by the royal family’s representatives.

“I stand here as a descendant of a people who survived a holocaust, a genocide, sponsored by this House and members of Parliament whose portraits still hang from the walls,” she told the House in her powerful opening statement. “Members of Parliament who sought our extermination and created legislation to achieve it.”

They took her people’s lands, imprisoned them without trial, murdered and **** women and children, and deliberately “engineered our displacement for generations to come,” she said.

Māori people for decades suffered losses of life, culture, land, resources and power to the British Crown following the 1840 signing of the Treaty of Waitangi, the nation’s founding document.

For those unaware, it's OK to be "white" when signing a treaty:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi

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The text of the treaty includes a preamble and three articles. It is bilingual, with the Māori text inaccurately translated from the English.

Article one of the Māori text grants governance rights to the Crown while the English text cedes "all rights and powers of sovereignty" to the Crown.

Article two of the Māori text establishes that Māori will retain full chieftainship over their lands, villages and all their treasures while the English text establishes the continued ownership of the Māori over their lands and establishes the exclusive right of pre-emption of the Crown.

Article three gives Māori people full rights and protections as British subjects.

The Māori text and the English text differ in meaning significantly, particularly in relation to the meaning of having and ceding sovereignty.

It's also OK to be "white" after signing the treaty:

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During the second half of the 19th century Māori generally lost control of much of the land they had owned, sometimes through legitimate sale, but often due to unfair land-deals, settlers occupying land that had not been sold, or through outright confiscations in the aftermath of the New Zealand Wars. In the period following the New Zealand Wars, the New Zealand government mostly ignored the treaty, and a court-case judgement in 1877 declared it to be "a simple nullity".

NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.
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Re: New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2022, 03:25:09 pm »
https://au.news.yahoo.com/ardern-issues-historic-maori-apology-010645674.html

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"The Crown profoundly regrets its horrific and needless acts of war and raupatu (land confiscation) which have caused you and your hapu (tribe) inter-generational suffering," Ms Ardern said.

But does it? Ardern may regret it as an individual, but does she speak for the British Crown? Indeed, if she does regret it as an individual, then why keep the colonial flag and a Windsor as head of state? (Also, "clan" is a better translation of "hapu" than "tribe".)

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"Instead of respecting your mana whakahaere (authority), the Crown killed and injured your people, and pillaged your land and property."

In the late 19th century, locals were pressured to open up to European settlement and run a railroad through Maniapoto territory, which led to aggressive land acquisitions from Maori hands.
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Ms Ardern acknowledged the government of the day was responsible for "devastating long-term prejudice".

"As a result, your hapu and whanau (families) have faced significant socio-economic deprivation and lived in worse conditions than non-Maori. You were prevented from reaching your full social and economic potential and had to fight to maintain your Maniapoto identity and language."

No, don't say "worse conditions than non-Maori"! Firstly, it is generally untrue that the colonized people known as Maori lived in worse conditions than other similarly colonized peoples around the world. Secondly, who are "non-Maori"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_people#Etymology

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the word distinguished ordinary mortal human beings—tāngata māori—from deities and spirits (wairua).[9]

Just plainly and simply say "worse conditions than "whites"", OK? Or better yet, say "worse conditions than "whites (including Jews)"":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_New_Zealand

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Joel Samuel Polack, the best known and most influential of them, arrived in New Zealand in 1831.[2] Polack, an English-born Jew, opened a general store at Kororareka in the Bay of Islands
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John Israel Montefiore, also an English-born Jew, left Sydney, Australia for New Zealand in October 1831. He became a merchant in Tauranga and Kororareka, and later, Auckland, where he featured prominently in civic affairs.[3]

Returning briefly to England in 1837, Polack wrote two popular books about his 1831–37 travels in New Zealand. In addition to being entertaining travel guides to new tastes (hearts of palm, for example), sights and sounds (Māori tattoos, exotic birds), etc., his books were a rallying cry for commercial development, specifically for flax production which he believed was possible on a lucrative scale.[2]
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With the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi on 6 February 1840, the way was cleared for colonisation and the first legitimate immigrants. The British government and the speculative New Zealand Company,[4] among whose financial backers was the wealthy Anglo-Jewish Goldsmid family[5] anticipated (wrongly, as it turned out, at least in the next few decades) that land would increase in value, and encouraged a flood of subsidised mostly English and Scottish emigrants.

Abraham Hort, Jr, related by family and business ties[6] to the Mocatta & Goldsmid bank, arrived in Wellington on the barque Oriental on 31 January 1840[7] accompanied by two brothers he employed as cabinet makers, Solomon and Benjamin Levy. These were the first recognisably Jewish names in this early wave of post-Treaty settlement.

Hort's business[8] and civic leadership[9] was quickly recognised in the new colony. Within months of his arrival he was elected one of the two constables for Wellington's fledgling police force.[10] Hort was a promoter of early Wellington civic affairs, Jewish and non-Jewish.[11]

David Nathan was an important Auckland businessman and benefactor, who is perhaps best known for establishing the firm L.D. Nathan and Company. He left Sydney for the Bay of Islands on the Achilles on 21 February 1840.[12]

Nathaniel William Levin was another early immigrant, who became a notable merchant in Wellington and a politician. He arrived in Wellington on 30 May 1841 on the Arachne.[13]
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The first Jewish ceremony in New Zealand was the marriage of businessman David Nathan to Rosetta Aarons, the widow of Captain Michael Aarons, on 31 October 1841.[18] Their daughter, Sarah Nathan, born 10 January 1843, was the first known Jewish birth in New Zealand. The second ceremony, the marriage of Esther Solomon and Benjamin Levy was on 1 June 1842 in Wellington, according to the ketubah contract in Hebrew, witnessed by Alfred Hort (another of Abraham Hort Senior's sons)[19] and another early Jewish emigrant Nathaniel William Levin. Levin, for whom the town of Levin was later named, soon married Hort Senior's daughter, Jessy, further connecting the small group of early Wellington Jews.[20]

In early 1843, Abraham Hort, Sr. arrived in Wellington, where he organised and promoted the Jewish community, with the approval of London's Chief Rabbi. Hort brought with him David Isaacs, also an alumnus of the Jews' Hospital. Isaacs served as Mohel (to perform circumcisions), shochet (kosher butcher) and chazan (Cantor/lay leader for services). The first religious service was performed soon after, on 7 January 1843. A few months later, the new community celebrated the birth of Benjamin's and Esther's first child, Henry Emanuel Levy,[21] which Hort documented in a series of letters sent to The Jewish Chronicle (the premier London Jewish newspaper of the time).
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Solomon Levy quickly married Jane Harvey, the 14-year-old Christian shipmate of Esther Solomon and Elizabeth Levy. Although only one of his eight surviving children chose Judaism as a religion, Levy helped found the first Wellington synagogue
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gold rushes in New Zealand in the 1860s, the Central Otago Gold Rush from 1861 and the West Coast Gold Rush from 1864 shifted their businesses from centres like Auckland and Wellington to new towns and (like Sir Julius Vogel) to Dunedin in the South Island. In 1862, the congregation in Dunedin had 43 members.[27] Those drawn to gold strikes in the 1860s and after, were instrumental in founding businesses and helping to erect the many synagogues that were established at this time.[1]
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Three Prime Ministers have Jewish ancestry, although only Julius Vogel, who served twice during the 1870s, practised Judaism. Francis Bell was PM very briefly in 1925. Former Prime Minister John Key was born to an Austrian Jewish mother[34][35] and is thus considered Jewish under Halakha, though he is not practising.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/

But I digress.

Back to first link:

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Treaty Negotiations Minister Andrew Little said he wanted Sunday's apology to "lay the groundwork for a new partnership to provide for the future wellbeing and prosperity of Maniapoto".

"When Maniapoto rangatira (Maori chiefs) signed the Treaty in 1840, they expected to build a partnership with the Crown," he said.

"For more than a century after this, the Crown repeatedly broke the promises it made leading to devastating loss of life and land, and social and economic deprivation."

OK, so when will anyone be held accountable for this? Empty words mean nothing and certainly do not lay the groundwork for anything positive.
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Re: New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2022, 05:50:43 pm »
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But does it? Ardern may regret it as an individual, but does she speak for the British Crown? Indeed, if she does regret it as an individual, then why keep the colonial flag and a Windsor as head of state? (Also, "clan" is a better translation of "hapu" than "tribe".)

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OK, so when will anyone be held accountable for this? Empty words mean nothing and certainly do not lay the groundwork for anything positive.

Maybe this poster will make them act positively if it really conducted today