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See this quoted sentences from the documentary video :

Source : A Day In The Life Of A White Slave In The Ottoman Empire - A Day In History (27th January 2022)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd06PZG3u-o

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(Minute 00 : 23 to 00 : 47)

"...unlike most examples of slavery, slaves in the Ottoman Empire were white. Slavery in the Ottoman Empire stretched throughout its empire. Even after the attempts to abolish slavery in the late 19th century (1890s). Especially in the early centuries the caliphate, slaves taken during small wars or organized expeditions ordered by the Sultan throughout the continents of Eastern and Southern Europe, the Balkans and the Caucasus region."

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(Minute 02:04 to 02:12)

Almost the available resources for slavery in the Ottoman Empire were committed to white Western European Christians and those who were banished from their royal existence.

(Minute 02:34 to 03:10)

First, it is important to know that the teachings of Islam have a different way of carrying out slavery compared to other religions and nations which also enslave. The Qur'an explains that slaves should be treated with kindness and encouraged to be freed for slaves who are already seen as loyal. The Qur'an also teaches that the slave is morally equal to the master of his slave but is of a lower status and is not distinguished from the color of his skin.

Even so, dark-skinned cripples from "Sub-Saharan Africa" ​​were sold for less than their healthy white counterparts."

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(Minutes 04:16 to 04:47)

Most experienced slavery for 7 years for blacks. And 9 years for those who are white to show their loyalty before they are released and can get a better job as a foreman or supervisor. They could become slaves by contract agreement, clients of their former slave masters and receive a salary. Evidence from sharia records shows that recently freed slaves were usually ready and receptive to Ottoman society especially in small towns and enjoyed economic and social independence.

(Minutes 08:45 to 09:05)

The slavery of white people in the Ottoman Empire was not black-and-white but was not intended as seen in other areas and other times. Our lack of sources paints an unfinished picture of slavery and how slaves were treated in the Caliphate. But what we do know is that it's varied and not all that bad as it was in Transatlantic slavery
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can get a better job

That is an understatement. Let's face it: the Ottomans were rabid reproductive Eurocentrists obsessed with making their offspring successively "whiter" every generation. This has been the case from the beginning:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Brankovi%C4%87

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Mara Branković (Serbian Cyrillic: Мара Бранковић) or Mara Despina Hatun (c. 1416 – 14 September 1487), also known as Sultana Marija or Amerissa, was the daughter of Serbian monarch George Branković and Eirene Kantakouzene. As the daughter of Despot George, wife of Sultan Murad II and stepmother of Mehmed II, she came to play a significant role in diplomatic negotiations of the Ottoman Empire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BClbahar_Hatun_(mother_of_Bayezid_II)

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According to Salome Woronzow, she was daughter of Stanisha Kastrioti, brother of Skanderbeg, the famous Albanian Lord. Therefore, Gülbahar Hatun was either of Albanian or Greek origin.[7][8][9][10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87i%C3%A7ek_Hatun

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The origins of Çiçek are controversial. Serbian, Greek, Venetian or French origins are attributed to her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurbanu_Sultan

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Nurbanu Sultan (Ottoman Turkish: نور بانو سلطان; "Queen of light", c. 1525[1] – 7 December 1583) was Haseki Sultan of the Ottoman Empire as the principal consort of Sultan Selim II (reign 1566–1574), his legal wife, as well Valide Sultan (empress mother) as the mother of Sultan Murad III (reign 1574–1583). She was one of the most prominent figures during the time of the Sultanate of Women. Conflicting theories ascribe her a Venetian, Jewish[2] or Greek[3] origin.

etc.. And it only further accelerated with the opportunity to reproduce with "white" slaves:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurrem_Sultan

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Hurrem Sultan (Turkish pronunciation: [hyɾˈɾæm suɫˈtan], Ottoman Turkish: خُرّم سلطان, romanized: Ḫurrem Sulṭān, Modern Turkish: Hürrem Sultan; c. 1500;1502 – 15 April 1558), also known as Roxelana (Ukrainian: Роксолана; lit. 'the Ruthenian one'), was the chief consort and legal wife of the Ottoman sultan Suleiman the Magnificent. She became one of the most powerful and influential women in Ottoman history as well as a prominent and controversial figure during the era known as the Sultanate of Women.

Born in Ruthenia (then an eastern region of the Kingdom of Poland, now Rohatyn, Ukraine) to a Ruthenian Orthodox priest, Hurrem was captured by Crimean Tatars during a slave raid and eventually taken to Istanbul, the Ottoman capital.[2] She entered the Imperial Harem, rose through the ranks and became the favourite of Sultan Suleiman. Breaking Ottoman tradition, he married Hurrem, making her his legal wife; sultans had previously married only foreign free noble ladies. She was the first imperial consort to receive the title Haseki Sultan. Hurrem remained in the sultan's court for the rest of her life, enjoying a close and faithful relationship with her husband, and having six children with him, including the future sultan, Selim II. She was the grandmother of Murad III.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safiye_Sultan_(Haseki_of_Murad_III)

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According to Venetian sources, Safiye was of Albanian origin, born in the Dukagjin highlands but was confused for her origins with Nurbanu Sultan.[2] Her original name was Sofia.

In 1563, at the age of 13, she was presented as a slave to the future Murad III by his cousin Hümaşah Sultan, granddaughter of Suleiman the Magnificent and Hurrem Sultan through their deceased son Şehzade Mehmed,[3] older full brother of Murad's father Selim. Given the name Safiye, she became a concubine of Murad (then the eldest son of Sultan Selim II). On 26 May 1566, she gave birth to Murad's son, the future Mehmed III, the same year Suleiman the Magnificent died.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handan_Sultan

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Handan Sultan (Ottoman Turkish: خندان سلطان meaning "smiling" in Persian; died 9 November 1605) was the consort of Sultan Mehmed III, and Valide Sultan to their son Sultan Ahmed I.
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Of Bosnian origin, Handan Sultan was a servant in the household of Cerrah Mehmed Pasha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6sem_Sultan

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Kösem Sultan (Ottoman Turkish: كوسم سلطان;[a] c. 1589[1] – 2 September 1651[2]), also known as Mahpeyker Sultan[3][4] (Persian: ماه پيكر; lit. 'Visage of the Moon'), was the chief consort and legal wife of the Ottoman Sultan Ahmed I, valide sultan as the mother of sultans Murad IV and Ibrahim, and büyük ("elder") valide sultan as the grandmother of Sultan Mehmed IV. She became one of the most powerful and influential women in Ottoman history, as well as a central figure during the period known as the Sultanate of Women.[5]
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Kösem is generally said to be of Greek origin,[6][7] the daughter of a priest on the island of Tinos whose maiden name was Anastasia,[8][9][6] but these views do not seem reliable.[1]

In 1604, at the age of 14 or 15, she was kidnapped by Ottoman raiders and bought as a slave in Bosnia by the beylerbey (governor-general) of the Bosnia Eyalet.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turhan_Sultan

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Turhan Hatice Sultan (Ottoman Turkish: تورخان سلطان, " of mercy "; c. 1627 – 4 August 1683) was the first Haseki Sultan of the Ottoman Sultan Ibrahim (reign 1640–48) and Valide Sultan as the mother of Mehmed IV (reign 1648–87). Turhan was prominent for the regency of her young son and her building patronage. She and her mother-in-law, Kösem Sultan, are the only two women in Ottoman history to be regarded as official regents and had supreme control over the Ottoman Empire. As a result, Turhan became one of the prominent figures during the era known as Sultanate of Women.
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Of Rus' origin,[1][2] Turhan Hatice Sultan, was born in 1627 in Ruthenia, Ukraine. She was tall, delicate and with blue eyes.[3] She was captured in one of the raids of the Tatars and sold into slavery.[4] She was sent to the Imperial Harem at the Topkapı Palace from the Khan of Crimea.[5] She was presented to the palace, as a gift of Kör Süleyman Pasha to Kösem Sultan.[6] She was trained by Atike Sultan, daughter of Sultan Ahmed I, and groomed by Kösem, who presented her to her son, Ibrahim.[7] She had one brother, Yunus Agha (died 1689), living in Istanbul.[8] According to Sakaoğlu, she was tall, had blue eyes and was white skinned.[9]

Turhan gave birth for sure to two children, Şehzade Mehmed (future Sultan Mehmed IV)[10] born on 2 January 1642,[11] and Atike Sultan. Mehmed's birth caused great rejoicing both within and without the palace.[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BClnu%C5%9F_Sultan

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Emetullah Rabia Gülnuş Sultan (Ottoman Turkish: جولنوس امت الله رابعه سلطان; "Servant of Allah", "spring" and "Essence of rose", 1642[1] – 6 November 1715, Edirne) was the Haseki Sultan of Ottoman Sultan Mehmed IV and Valide Sultan to their sons Mustafa II and Ahmed III. At the beginning of the 18th century, she became the most powerful and influential women in the Ottoman Empire. [2][3]
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Gülnuş Sultan was born in 1642[4] in the town of Rethymno, Crete, when the island was under Venetian rule; she was originally named Eumenia Voria (Ευμενία Βόρια) and she was an ethnic Greek, the daughter of a Greek Orthodox priest.[5][a] She was captured by the Ottomans during the invasion of Crete in 1645.[5]

etc.. The Sultanate of Women should be more accurately called the Sultanate of "White" Women!



This is the exact same dynamic as described here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/msg2343/#msg2343

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They start dynasties that persist to this day … but their grandsons and great-grandsons are notably whiter than they were, since the men of the family have been exploiting their social ascendancy to marry white women.

This is why all Eurocentrists need to be prohibited from reproducing:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg8954/#msg8954
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Mara Branković or Mara Despina Hatun

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Hurrem Sultan

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Mehmed III

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Sultan Ahmed I

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Kösem Sultan

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Turhan Hatice Sultan

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Emetullah Rabia Gülnuş Sultan

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Mustafa II and Ahmed III.


So, the problem are not the Islamic teachings but the people's "Eurocentrist" atittude as usual