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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2020, 02:03:55 am »
Battle of Berlin - Nazi Germany vs Soviet Union:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgHWSJBlnas

The music (composed by Jew Steve Jablonsky) is itself enough to invoke sympathy for the Nazis.
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2021, 02:08:19 am »
Jesse Owens at the Berlin Olympics in 1936
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Owens won 4 gold medals: 100 meters, 200 meters, long jump and 4 × 100 meter relay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1inifMJ0xio

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Jesse owens says in his journal that he was never snubbed by hitler, but was congratulated and was treated better than he ever was in america when he came home. he even went as far to say that he was more welcome in Nazi Germany than anywhere in America.

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Jeremy Walker
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For shame.
American revisionist history.
“Hitler didn’t snub me; it was our president who snubbed me... The president didn’t even send a telegram.”
- Jesse Owens

Nah, Westerners have only lied about every war except WWI and WWII. Westerners would never lie about WWI and WWII! Never!!!

Cognitive dissonance much Westerner?  :D

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/ignorance-and-indoctrination-of-westerners-kills-millions/

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2021, 03:17:46 pm »
Putin Opens Archives And Debunks Western Attempts To Rewrite WW2 History & Blame Russia For The War
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Russian President Vladimir Putin told the participants about the archive materials on the pre-history of World War II and invited them to tour a specially organized exhibit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3KiYfr3dfM
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USA General George S Patton: "We defeated the wrong enemy."
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It is unknown if Patton ever said these precise words. However, Anthony Cave Brown notes in Bodyguard of Lies Volume II (1975), p. 898, that "Patton was relieved of command of the 3rd Army by Eisenhower just after the end of the war for stating publicly that America had been fighting the wrong enemy— Germany instead of Russia", the accuracy of the book is disputed.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_S._Patton

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Edward Solomon
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I really don’t understand what Putin is trying to point out. It is taught in American history studies, that the Munich Agreement definitely made war inevitable. Poland’s reluctance to trust Russian military forces within polish territory was directly a result of the Red Army invasions and territory annexations following the Russian Revolution. Following the historical facts of the occupation of Eastern Poland and subsequent murders, deportations, suppression’s, and terror shows how correct this polish suspicion was. Also the horrible treatment by the Red army during annexation of Baltic and Finish territory. Yes, they called them Republics, but, make no mistake. They were under total Stalin domination.
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6:07 hahaha you mean a pact? What a bullshit. The only pact that was signed was the Ribbentrop-Molotov agreement, including its Secret protocol about mutual invasion on Poland.
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They say history is written by the winners, too bad they forgot to burn the evidence.

Katyn - WWII's Forgotten Massacre
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The disturbing story of the Soviet massacre of thousands of Polish officers and intelligentsia at Katyn, Russia in 1940 and the subsequent cover-up and German investigation of the crime scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2djnWw751s&list=TLPQMzAwMTIwMjEDI8xIrVlfOQ&index=2

Hitler, an "anti-Semtic pig"?



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Semitic: relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.

Lest we forget:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2021, 06:09:40 pm »
Hitler's Arab & Black Soldiers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTaEuaVIFtQ

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2021, 02:59:59 pm »
Ahmadinejad An das deutsche Volk [English subtitles] (Ahmadinejad and the German people)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYOIRwIqycg

Iran: Text Of Ahmadinejad's Letter To Bush
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Can one be a follower of Jesus Christ (peace be upon Him), the great Messenger of God, feel obliged to respect human rights, present liberalism as a civilization model, announce one's opposition to the proliferation of nuclear weapons and [other] weapons of mass destruction [WMD], make "War [on] Terror" his slogan, and, finally, work toward the establishment of a unified international community -- a community which Christ and the virtuous of the Earth will one day govern, but, at the same time, have countries attacked; have the lives, reputations, and possessions of people destroyed; and on the slight chance [that there are] criminals in a village, city, or convoy, for example, set ablaze the entire village, city, or convoy?
https://www.rferl.org/a/1068319.html

Ahmadinejad's Letter To Merkel
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I have no intention of arguing about the Holocaust. But, does it not stand to reason that some victorious countries of World War II intended to create an alibi on the basis of which they could continue keeping the defeated nations of World War II indebted to them. Their purpose has been to weaken their morale and their inspiration in order to obstruct their progress and power. In addition to the people of Germany, the peoples of the Middle East have also borne the brunt of the Holocaust. By raising the necessity of settling the survivors of the Holocaust in the land of Palestine, they have created a permanent threat in the Middle East in order to rob the people of the region of the opportunities to achieve progress. — This letter was sent from Ahmadinejad to German Chancellor Angela Merkel in July 2006. Source: Fars News Agency
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad

Ahmadinejad: Holocaust Needs Further 'Studies'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI9sPW6_Le0



How Long Does the Entire Cremation Process Take?
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Depending on location, the cremation process can take anywhere from 3-15 business days. Some states have laws requiring a waiting period before a cremation can even take place. The actual cremation can take about 3 hours, and processing the cremated remains takes another 1-2 hours.

(3 hours to cremate a human body in a modern crematorium)

Apparently, most of the deluded westerners who believe they walk in truth cannot even do simple math? Neither can Jews, who constantly remind us of their cognitive abilities on top of this fact. This is how dumb most human-beings truly are, Jews included! Not only are they dumb, they are also EXTREMELY fragile and gullible people! How else do you explain these facts?

It would take 2 to 3 MILLION hours to cremate just a million bodies. There are 8,760 hours in a year. With 100 modern crematoriums running 24/7 it would take 30,000 hours plus to cremate 1 million corpses....

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In addition to Auschwitz and Auschwitz II–Birkenau, Topf & Söhne also built crematoria ovens for Buchenwald, Dachau, Mauthausen-Gusen, Mogilev ghetto, and the Gross-Rosen concentration camp. Out of the five ovens at Dachau concentration camp, four were made by H. Kori and one by Topf & Söhne. In all, Topf built 25 crematoria ovens which had a total of 76 incineration chambers (called 'muffles') for concentration camps. H. Kori built 42 single chamber ovens at various camps.[4]
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The muffles of the concentration camp ovens were smaller than those for civil crematoria, because no space for a coffin was needed, which saved both space and fuel. Prüfer later designed ovens with muffles large enough for multiple bodies to be burned simultaneously. Later, in Topf & Söhne's instructions on using the ovens, they advised adding bodies to the muffles at 20-minute intervals as the previous body burned down. Bodies were often pushed in four, five or even six at once.[11]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topf_and_Sons




German supply lines halted by Allied bombing
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2002722107/

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Epidemic typhus has historically occurred during times of war and deprivation. For example, typhus killed millions of prisoners in German Nazi concentration camps during World War II. The deteriorating quality of hygiene in camps such as Auschwitz, Theresienstadt, and Bergen-Belsen created conditions where diseases such as typhus flourished.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemic_typhus

If you cannot walk in truth how could you ever lead humanity into a better and brighter future? Answer: you cannot. This is why 80% of the world population which is non-western needs to stop listening to westerners about anything. These people cannot be trusted. They walk in darkness and ignorance and always have! These are NOT good people and they will be judged accordingly by God! Stand-up to bullies it is a duty, even if they have nukes! Never let them make you believe you are inferior to them just because you have brown skin either! Never again!

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/ignorance-and-indoctrination-of-westerners-kills-millions/
                https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2021, 09:08:22 pm »
False claim: Hitler quote on controlling people and eroding freedoms
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Update December 10, 2020: Adding paragraph eight to include a passage written by Hitler in reference to Germany in 1918.
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Users on social media have been sharing a quote misattributed to Adolf Hitler on his alleged views on how to control people. Some posts claim the words appeared in Hitler’s book “Mein Kampf”, which outlined the ideology that formed the basis for Nazism and set out his hatred of Jews. This is inaccurate.

As of May 20, 2020, the quote has been shared over 20,940 times on Facebook. Examples are visible  here,  here,  here,  here,  here.

The posts read: “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed. -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf”

The Leibniz Institute for Contemporary History, a research organization dedicated to the study of German history of the 20th and 21st century (  here  ), confirmed to Reuters these words are misattributed to Hitler. “Whoever invented this quote, it was not Hitler and it has never been written in Mein Kampf”, a spokesperson for the Institute told Reuters on email. “We do not know in which context the author of this post is trying to manipulate a discussion by an invented "Hitler"-quotation,” they added.

Professor Timothy Snyder, a historian at Yale University, also confirmed to Reuters that Hitler’s idea of taking power was very different from what the quote alleges. “Those words do not appear in Mein Kampf, nor do they represent Hitler’s beliefs,” he told Reuters via email. “His idea of taking power was to discredit traditional sources of factuality in favor of a myth of a supposedly innocent nation and its supposedly faultless leader, and to undermine the rule of law by willful violent actions carried out in the name of a race.” (This is Snyder's opinion)

Snyder further explained that Hitler came to power by “exploiting a crisis” and consolidated it by “undermining constitutional institutions of altering them by mixing them with his own racial institution, the SS (Schutzstaffel or the ‘political soldiers’ of the Nazi Party   bit.ly/2ZobO5B  )”.  According to Snyder, Hitler’s conviction was that Germans would fully support him by “taking them to war”. “He believed that he was giving the German race its freedom by fighting for resources instead of pursuing technology, and by destroying an “enemy” (the Jews),” he said. Snyder also added that those who supported Hitler before he came to power “glorified weapons and opposed what they called the ‘system’, by which they meant parliamentary democracy”.

According to Snopes, the quotation in the claim and its misattribution to Hitler and Mein Kampf was “virtually non-existent until 2014”, when it appeared in the book “Willfully Ignorant” (  bit.ly/2Zlgzg8  ) as a heading to one of the chapters of the fictional novel by American writer Pat Miller (here).

At the start of Mein Kampf’s Chapter 15 – The Right to Self Defense, Hitler made a similar statement to that in the social media claims (beginning with “A shrewd conqueror will always enforce his exactions on the conquered only by stages”). This was in reference to his disagreement over Germany’s new democratic republic following World War One’s Armistice in 1918 and not reflecting his own policy preferences as a leader.

Some iterations of the claim (visible  here) include photo that is not of Adolf Hitler but a photoshopped image of former British Prime Minister David Cameron.

Users are resharing this false quote amidst weeks of lockdown and social isolation worldwide to prevent the spread of the new coronavirus (here), which has been met with protests and defiance by some Americans (  here,  here).
VERDICT

False. This quote is incorrectly attributed to Adolf Hitler and historians say the ideas are not representative of his beliefs. A similar, not identical, passage can be found in Mein Kampf in reference to Germany’s post-World War One policies, not Hitler’s own preferences.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our work to fact-check social media posts   here.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-hitler-freedom/false-claim-hitler-quote-on-controlling-people-and-eroding-freedoms-idUSKBN22X1W5

It is so refreshing in this world when people can put aside their biases and assumptions and stick to the facts. How are we ever supposed to make it to where we are meant to go if we cannot walk in truth? THAT is what the absolute truth is about, not false pride and false world views. If your worldview is based on inaccuracies you cannot ever get to where you would like to go....

Is Snyder's opinion correct?

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If the government is driving a nationality to its destruction, the rebellion of every member of that people is not merely a right, but a duty. Whether or not this condition exists is not shown by theoretical stories, but it is shown when force is used against the people and in the success of effort to suppress the nationality. Of course, every governing power claims their responsibility is to uphold the authority of the state no matter how badly they have abused that authority, even though it has betrayed the interests of a nationality a thousand times over. In fighting such a power and in winning freedom or independence, the peoples’ instinct for self-preservation will have to use the same weapon used by its adversary. That is to say the battle will be carried on by “legal” means as long as the power which is being overthrown also uses legal methods, but the
insurgents should not hesitate to use illegal means if the oppressor employs them. Never forget that the highest purpose of man’s existence is the preservation of his own kind and not the maintenance of a state or government. The question of legality is secondary if the survival of the race is at stake and they may be pushed aside or destroyed. Even though the methods used by the ruling power are a thousand times “legal”, the self-preservation of the oppressed is always the most noble justification for a struggle using any and every weapon. The truth of this statement can be seen by anyone, and this earth’s history shows tremendous examples in the wars of independence against inward or outward enslavement of peoples.

The law of humanity is above the law of the state. However, if a people are defeated in their struggle for human rights, this means those people are not favored on the scale of Fate and they are not slated to remain on this world. The world will not be possessed by those who are weak-willed.

Using Austria as a clear and striking example, it is easy to see how a tyranny can wrap itself up in so-called “legality”. The legal power of the state once rested with the anti-German foundation of the Parliament with its non-German majority and on the equally anti-German ruling House. These elements embodied the entire authority of the state. Any attempt to change the German-Austrian people through these groups would have been nonsense. Consequently, our admirers of the “legal” way as the only “permissible” one, and those admirers of the state’s authority itself were bound to think that all resistance must be abandoned because it could not be carried on by legal means. — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, pg. 64

It would be interesting to know what Snyder makes of the American Revolution wouldn't it? Whose side do you think Hitler would have been on in that conflict?

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2021, 09:13:13 pm »
Putin Won’t Have It! WWII Was West’s Fault! Hitler Was Created and Pushed to Attack Russia!
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Vladimir Putin: “There's nothing good about totalitarianism. But putting the Soviet Union on the same level as fascist Germany is as cynical as can be."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rim2aTobAg

Reminder: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/

Putin is full of it. Russia is part of Western civilization and always has been! Hitler was anti-Western!!!

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/german-colonial-empire/

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2021, 02:04:40 pm »
Hitler Speaks on the plight of Sudeten Germans and the hypocrisy of the democratic nations
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Adolf Hitler speaks about the plight of the Sudeten Germans in Czechoslovakia and the total hypocrisy of the democratic nations in their condemnations of Germany, and in their failure to intervene on behalf of the abused ethnic Germans in the Sudetenland. He compares them to the "defenceless Palestinians" who are even then being abused while under British authority and he states that the Sudetens are not defenceless, will not suffer their fate, and that the German Reich will do what is necessary to relieve their suffering (12-9-1938).
https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=WppUD9IpODU

Adolf Hitler’s Address on the Sudeten Germans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym8led_1ZS4

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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2021, 07:59:41 pm »
(No, the following images are not satirical pieces).





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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:20 pm)
There seems to be some form of mental illness at work in those that push this bizarre nonsense. It's as if they wish it were true and revel in their invented misery.

Do you think?

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Stalag (Hebrew: סטאלג‎) was a short-lived genre of Nazi exploitation Holocaust pornography in Israel that flourished in the 1950s and early 1960s, and stopped after the time of the Eichmann Trial, because of a ban by the Israeli government.[1] These books did not include Jews to avoid taboos. They are no longer available for a reading today in terms of traditional publication, although the advent of the Internet has allowed for peer-to-peer file sharing.

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Purported to be translations of English-language books by prisoners in concentration camps, these books were highly pornographic accounts of imprisonment, generally of Allied soldiers, sexual brutalization by female SS guards (or in some cases by Imperial Japanese women), and the prisoners' eventual revenge, which usually consisted of the **** and murder of their tormentors.[2] The books, with titles like I Was Colonel Schultz's Private ****, were especially popular among adolescent boys, often the children of concentration camp survivors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalag_fiction


Nothing to see here folks! Carry on! This is all perfectly normal! Oh! And never forget, it's always been everyone else's fault to why Jews are treated they way they are by the rest of humanity throughout human history! Jewish behavior has nothing to do with this at all!!!

Has any other group of people ever been expelled from countries as many times as Jews? I bet you cannot find a group of people you have even been expelled a tenth as many times as Jews have?

Expulsions and exoduses of Jews
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_Jews


Expulsions of Jews in Europe from 1100 to 1600

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2021, 03:18:03 pm »
I hope this thread delves into the true causes and reasons behind the Invasion of Poland. Churchill, Lord Halifax, and Stalin all lured Hitler into a trap which he tragically sprung.
When in doubt, use the 16 Words: 'We must Engineer the Destruction of Western Civilization and Tribalism, and Unite All Races Through Nobility.'

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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2021, 07:14:51 pm »
I hope this thread delves into the true causes and reasons behind the Invasion of Poland. Churchill, Lord Halifax, and Stalin all lured Hitler into a trap which he tragically sprung.

Are you implying that Hitler should have simply looked the other way while Poland was slaughtering its German, Ukrainian, Belarusian and Lithuanian minorities, as well as training Zionist paramilitaries?

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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2021, 06:25:38 pm »
The Rhine Meadows Camps - What Really Happened?
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The Rhine Meadows Camps are a controversial topic, but the truth of what happened is easily established.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icFKdMw7nT8

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« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2021, 06:39:26 pm »
The Chinese Wehrmacht Panzer Commander: Chiang Wei-kuo
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When the Wehrmacht rolled into Austria in 1938 during the Anschluss, there was one officer commanding a Panzer regiment that stood out. He wasn't a German, and frankly, wasn't even European. Chiang Wei-kuo was the son of China's generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek, received military education in Bavaria, and even commanded a Panzer regiment as Germany annexed their southern neighbour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF-7OpFlQOg

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« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2021, 02:29:52 am »
Waffen-SS: Elite or Mass-Army?
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Waffen-SS divisions are often portrayed as an elite formations, yet, this view misses that the Waffen-SS had a large amount of divisions with very different combat records. This video takes a closer look at the Waffen-SS based on academic sources and will also explain why many statements of the Waffen-SS divisions are just wrong, since they don't account for the heterogeneity of the various divisions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4RveXKfrIk