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Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« on: July 08, 2020, 11:56:15 am »
Westerners obviously feel the need to revise their own history, especially in regards to WWI and WWII. (Why do westerners always project their own racism onto their perceived enemies?) Also, it seems westerners often just read the title of a book and then go about pretending they know what the entire book is about. Nor do they seem all that capable of asking the right questions either. Here are some of many examples:

Bush, Rockefeller, Rothschild & Hitler
By Michael Collins Piper

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Some AMERICAN FREE PRESS readers were upset by the first two articles in this series reflecting on the proliferation of myths, phony documents and fraudulent “quotations” muddying serious research into big issues of the current day and events of the past.

However, AFP’s job is to report the facts.

This week, we take a look at one particularly ubiquitous myth—a combination of myths—which has excited many: A variety of claims the Bush, Rockefeller and Rothschild families and a host of “Jewish bankers”—together or independently—helped finance Hitler’s rise to power.

The most cited source for the story Jewish bankers paved the way for Hitler is Hitler’s Secret Backers, supposedly by a Jewish banker named Sidney Warburg.

First of all, there was no Sidney Warburg. But those who actually read the spurious book (and most who cite it haven’t read it) will find the unknown author says—in contrast to what people think he said—that Jewish bankers didn’t finance Hitler. Instead, the book claims some naughty non-Jewish bankers did so.

But even that isn’t true. An accurate assessment by James Pool in Who Financed Hitler absolutely refutes the legend big banking or industrial interests played a substantial role funding Hitler. Most of the Nazi Party’s money came from small contributions and sales of literature.

No Rothschilds backed Hitler. That’s a myth. One banker, a practicing Christian of one-quarter Jewish descent, was said—by one source, passing on a rumor—to have donated money to Hitler. And that’s it. The one Jewish banker known to have given money to any Nazis gave it to elements in the Nazi party—the Strasser brothers—who were trying to stop Hitler.

And Hitler wasn’t descended from any Rothschilds or Frankenbergers. If he had any Jewish blood, it has never been authoritatively traced.

One proponent of the claim Hitler was Jewish cites Brigitte Hamann’s Hitler’s Vienna as proof, pointing out the book describes stories of Hitler’s Jewish heritage. In fact, Hamann dissects the legends, refuting them in detail. Scholars such as Carolyn Yeager and Veronica Clark, in Warwolves of the Iron Cross, have also demolished the rumors.

Some claim Hitler was pro-Zionist. They are wrong. For a brief period Hitler did encourage some Zionists in efforts to promote Jewish immigration from Germany to Palestine, as described in Edwin Black’s The Transfer Agreement. However, at the same time, other Zionist forces were calling for war against Hitler as early as 1933.

The legendary “Nazi-Zionist collaboration” was a tiny blip of no geopolitical consequence. But it makes for great Internet chatter.

Others are hysterical over the fact American banks and corporations worked with the Nazi regime, yet—despite the frenzy—this is neither a major revelation nor is it extraordinary.

These were well-known arrangements, sometimes going back decades, with whatever German government was in power.

Many think that Antony Sutton “proved” in Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler that Rockefeller-controlled Standard Oil funded Hitler. However, in his book, Sutton says flatly: “Standard Oil apparently did not finance Hitler’s accession to power.”

Some cite that same book as evidence the Bush family, with the Harriman banking interests, funded Hitler. In fact, Sutton says only that the Harrimans—like many American financial groups—had connections to corporate interests in Germany. And he concludes that this “does not suggest that the Harrimans directly financed Hitler.” He never mentions the Bushes at all.

Another rumor claims the Bushes were part of a “fascist plot” to overthrow Franklin Roosevelt, often citing Jules Archer’s The Plot to Seize the White House. While there was a scheme to dislodge FDR—which many patriots believe to have been a good thing—the book never mentions the Bushes, nor is there any other evidence they had anything to do with that plot.

As Detective Sergeant Joe Friday used to say: “Just the facts.”
https://americanfreepress.net/bush-rockefeller-rothschild-hitler/

The real question westerners should have been asking themselves is: Why would the Rothschild international banking family fund a supposed communist revolutionary as in the likes of Karl Marx? Not, was Hitler a Rothschild....
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2020, 07:03:33 pm »
This is what I mean when I say "westerners always project their own racism on their perceived enemies":

Who were the real racists of WWII?

Tales Of The Red Tails

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Alexander Jefferson, a small, trim man with a silver mustache, told of being shot down on Aug. 12, 1944. He was strafing German radar stations when his plane was hit. He lost consciousness after the crash, and awakened to a German pointing a gun at him and shouting, "Naeger! Naeger!"

"I thought, 'Oh, crap — even in Germany!' " Jefferson laughed, shaking his head. "But it turned out he wasn't saying the other word — that was their word for negro."

In fact, the German soldier's commanding officer saluted Jefferson when he took the pilot into custody. "I was treated like an officer the whole time I spent in POW camp," Jefferson said.

A Delayed Salute
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Coming back on the boat, got to New York Harbor, the flags waving, the Statue of Liberty. Walked down the gangplank, and a little soldier at the bottom said, 'Whites to the right, niggers to the left.'
https://www.npr.org/2011/04/11/135177510/tuskegee-airmen-rock-stars-of-american-history

The above fact helps make sense of this Third Reich propaganda poster also:
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2020, 12:05:14 pm »
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Westerners see the following meme and it leads them to believe that Goebbels lied to the German people. If westerners actually bothered to research and read what Goebbels really said about propaganda, they would quickly realize that Goebbels believed that a propaganda that lies cannot be successful in the long term:

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Goebbels at Nuremberg — 1934
by Joseph Goebbels

It is difficult to define the concept of propaganda thoroughly and precisely. This is especially true since, in past decades, it was subject to unfavorable, and in part extraordinarily hostile, definitions, on the part of us Germans. First, then, we must defend it. Those abroad sometimes claim that in the past we Germans were particularly knowledgeable in this area, and knew how to apply it, but that unfortunately is not consistent with the facts. We learned the consequences of our neglect all too clearly during the World War. While the enemy states produced unprecedented atrocity propaganda aimed at Germany throughout the whole world, we did nothing and were completely defenseless against it. Only when enemy foreign propaganda had nearly won over the greater part even of the neutral states did the German government begin to sense the enormous power of propaganda. It was too late. Just as we were militarily and economically unprepared for the war, so also with propaganda. We lost the war in this area more than in any other.

The cleverest trick used in propaganda against Germany during the war was to accuse Germany of what our enemies themselves were doing. Even today, large parts of world opinion are convinced that the typical characteristics of German propaganda are lying, crudeness, reversing the facts, and the like. One needs only to remember the stories that were spread throughout the world at the beginning of the war about German soldiers chopping off children’s hands and crucifying women to realize that Germany then was a defenseless victim of this campaign of calumny. It neither had nor used any means of defense....

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All propaganda has a direction. The quality of this direction determines whether propaganda has a positive or negative effect. Good propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that the people cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be successful in the long run. A good propaganda will always come along that serves a good cause. But propaganda is still necessary if a good cause is to succeed. A good idea does not win simply because it is good. It must be presented properly if it is to win. The combination makes for the best propaganda. Such propaganda is successful without being obnoxious. It depends on its nature, not its methods. It works without being noticed. Its goals are inherent in its nature. Since it is almost invisible, it is effective and powerful. A good cause will lose to a bad one if it depends only on its rightness, while the other side uses the methods of influencing the masses. We are, for example, firmly convinced that we fought the war for a good cause, but that was not enough. The world should also have known and seen that our cause was good. However, we lacked the effective means of mass propaganda to make that clear to the world. Marxism certainly did not fight for great ideals. Despite that, in November 1918 it overcame Kaiser, Reich, and the army because it was superior in the art of mass propaganda....

— Joseph Goebbels, Der Kongress zur Nürnberg 1934 (Munich: Zentralverlag der NSDAP., Frz. Eher Nachf., 1934), pp. 130-141.
German Propaganda Archive Calvin College


Why are westerners so dumb and ignorant, especially in the middle of an "information age"?

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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2020, 12:25:32 pm »
Living in Hitler’s Germany
A letter from Hans Schmidt of GANPAC
Published in the Hoskins Report, Dec. 1993
Richard Kelly Hoskins, publisher

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You asked for someone who had lived in Hitler’s Germany to tell what it was like. Permit me, someone who lived under the Swastika flag from 1935, when the Saar was reunited with Germany, to 1945, to give a short answer.

To be a boy or girl at that time was wonderful. In the Hitler Youth the differences between Christian denominations or the different German states didn’t count. We all truly felt that we were members of one body of people – one nation. Youth hostels were opened all over the Reich, enabling us to hike from one beautiful town to another seeing our fatherland. Every effort was made to strengthen our minds and bodies. Contrary to what is said today, we were encouraged to become free in spirit, and not to succumb to peer (or authority) pressure. In peacetime, NO military training was allowed by the Hitler Youth leadership; scouting yes.
Incidentally, to “snitch on our parents” was frowned upon.

At the very time when America’s allies, the Soviets, destroyed most of the Christian churches in Russia and Ukraine, about 2500 new churches were built in Germany. NOT ONE Christian church was closed. It was the law that school and church had priority over service in the Hitler Youth. As late as the fall of 1944, the Waffen SS barracks in Breslau supplied two buses to take youth to either the nearest Catholic or Protestant church every Sunday. To be a registered member of a Christian church did not prevent advancement in the National Socialist Party. Germany was National Socialist, but free enterprise flourished during the entire Hitler years. No company was nationalized. No small businessman was stopped from opening up his own store. I myself worked during the war for a company that can only be called part of international capitalism. If you owned shares, nobody confiscated them, like the allies did in 1945.

The accomplishments of the ‘Nazis’ were incredible. Starting without money and with six million unemployed (a third of the workforce), they constructed the entire German Autobahn road network in a short span of 6 years – almost without corruption – while seeing to it that the new road system did not unnecessarily destroy either the German landscape, or wildlife habitats and forests. Two years after the NS were elected to power, conditions were so improved that workers had to be hired in nearby friendly countries to help alleviate the worker’s shortage in Germany. Germany was booming while Britain, France and the US were in the depths of depression.

To help the workers get cheap transportation, the VW was designed and a factory was being built for their manufacture when the war started. Also, for the common people, villages of small single family homes were erected. The monthly payments were set so low that almost anyone could afford his own house. In Hitler’s Germany there were no homeless; no beggars. Crime was almost non existent because habitual criminals were in concentration camps. All this was reported in the newspapers and was known by everybody.

The German press during the Third Reich had fewer taboos than the American press today. The only taboo I can think of evolved around Hitler, and, during the war, there was a law that prohibited “defeatism”. This was because of the negative role the German press played in the German defeat of 1918. It bears remembering that the ‘European Economic Community” was first coined by the Third Reich government. I remember many articles, both pro and con about this subject. One should also not forget that during the war at least seven million foreign nationals (nearly 10% of the population) worked in Germany, either as voluntary workers (Dutch, Danes, French, Poles, Ukrainians come to mind), or as forced laborers or as prisoners. I know of no instance where foreigners were attacked or molested (much less killed) because they were foreigners. Speaking of the press, I have an article from 1943 in my possession that spells out how necessary friendship is between the German and Russian peoples. Between 1933 and 1945 there was a tremendous emphasis on culture: theatres flourished; the German movie industry produced about 100 feature films per year (of which not one was anti-American. Only 50 of them can be considered pure propaganda movies). Some the best classical recordings still extant were made in Hitler’s Germany. Actors from all over Europe, but mainly from France, Sweden and Italy were stars in German movies.

Germany always loved sports, and there was no lack of opportunities to partake in any sport one liked. The 1936 Berlin Olympics was merely a showcase of what transpired all over the Reich. In a book on these Olympics issued by the Hitler Youth that is still in my possession, Jesse Owens is shown several times and mentioned favorably. During the Schmeling boxing fights, we kids all knew of Joe Louis, the brown bomber. Nowhere did I ever read derogatory remarks about other races. Certainly the accomplishments of Germany and the Germans were given prominence, similar to ‘the ad nauseum’ statements of today that the U.S. is the land of the free, etc. In my ten years in the Hitler Youth (actually 8, since I obviously couldn’t attend while a soldier), the Jews were never mentioned. Other sports that gripped our attention were flying (there was Hitler Youth flying training with their own sail planes), car races (British and Italian drivers dominated) and riding.

Frequently I am asked about gun control during the Hitler era. Claims are made that Hitler could take power because he disarmed the German people. That is nonsense. In Germany gun ownership was never as prevalent as it is in America. I would say that for hundreds of years one needed a gun license in order to keep a weapon. On the other hand, my father owned an old pistol clandestinely (about which we children knew), and there were gun clubs all over the Reich. Furthermore, Germany was always a country with many excellent gunsmiths. It is doubtful that they could stay in business if the laws were too stringent. I would surmise that while Germany was Germany (before it was ‘liberated’ by the allies) gun ownership probably was far more widespread than is acknowledged today. Laws on the books were mainly to give....

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Right-Wingers in general across the globe should abandon Hitler as their hero, that is if they wish to continue their anti-immigration stance?:

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Hitler the “Foreigner”

“Hitler is a foreigner, a Czech!”

Why?

He was born in Braunau in Lower Austria. Braunau on the Inn — not to be confused with Braunau in German Bohemia —is a small, purely German town on the Bavarian border, part of the “Inn district” that was cut off from Bavaria and given to Austria in 1779. Three generations before Adolf Hitler’s birth it was still Bavarian, and it is only the result of dynastic disputes that it is today part of Austria.

Even so, are not the Austrians our blood brothers whose return to the Reich is longed for with the same intensity on each side of the accursed border markers? Adolf Hitler himself writes of this in the first chapter of his book Mein Kampf:

    “Today it seems to me providential that Fate should have chosen Braunau on the Inn as my birthplace. For this little town lies on the boundary between two German states which we of the younger generation at least have made it our life work to reunite by every means at our disposal.”

Adolf Hitler was born on 20 April 1889 in the customs house at Braunau, the son of an Austrian customs official, only a few minutes from the border. Hitler’s grandfather was a poor cottager from the Forest Quarter.

No one can claim that Hitler’s ancestry sowed the seeds for his later development. As a simple son of the people, he has risen only because of the strength of his brilliant personality and soon will hold the highest office in the Reich.
https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/adolfhitler-frontsoldat.htm

It is in fact Israel and it's colonial immigration policies that should be the sole inspiration of all rightists worldwide:




Israeli firm chosen to build protoype of US border wall with Mexico
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Israel Aerospace Industries subsidiary company among eight to develop technology for 2,000 mile-long barrier
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-firm-chosen-to-build-protoype-of-us-border-wall-with-mexico/#gs.g2rlsk

If Germany would have had in place the immigration policies most rightists advocate for today Hitler would never have risen to be the Fuhrer of the Third Reich and Bolshevism would have swallowed Europe whole.



You don't find it odd that today's right-wingers are using Marxist terminology?


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Hitler speaks on the plight of the Palestinians and of USA and British hypocrisy 1939
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x309bue

Hitler Youth Palestine:


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British Israelism:
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British Israelism (also called Anglo-Israelism) is a pseudoarchaeological belief that the people of the British Isles are "genetically, racially, and linguistically the direct descendants" of the Ten Lost Tribes of ancient Israel.[1] With roots in the 16th century, British Israelism was inspired by several 19th century English writings such as John Wilson's 1840 Our Israelitish Origin.[2] Numerous British Israelite organisations were set up throughout the British Empire as well as in America from the 1870s onwards; a number of these organisations are independently active as of the early 21st century. In America, the idea gave rise to the Christian Identity movement.
The central tenets of British Israelism have been refuted by evidence from modern archaeological,[3] ethnological,[4] genetic,[citation needed] and linguistic research.[5][6]:33–34

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By 1886, the "Anglo-Israel Association" had 27 affiliated groups throughout Britain.[9]:9 Hine later departed for the United States, where he promoted the movement.[14]:56 [7]:176

The 1906 edition of the Jewish Encyclopedia stated that British Israelism's adherents "are said to number 2,000,000 in England and the United States",[17] an unreliable figure if association membership and journal subscription numbers are any guide; the number of passive Protestant sympathisers is almost impossible to determine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism

See also: Balfour Declaration
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The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government in 1917 during the First World War announcing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population. The declaration was contained in a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. The text of the declaration was published in the press on 9 November 1917.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration


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Christian Identity (also known as Identity Christianity)[1] is a racist,[2] anti-Semitic,[2] and white supremacist interpretation of Christianity which holds the view that only Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Nordic, Aryan people and those of kindred blood are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and hence the descendants of the ancient Israelites.

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The Christian Identity movement emerged in the United States in the 1920s and 1930s as an offshoot of British Israelism.[1][6] The idea that "lower races" are mentioned in the Bible (in contrast to Aryans) was posited in the 1905 book Theozoology; or The Science of the Sodomite Apelings and the Divine Electron by Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels, a volkisch writer seen by many historians as a major influence on Nazism.[citation needed] Adolf Hitler, however, did not subscribe to the belief that the Israelites of the Bible were Aryans; in a speech he gave in Munich in 1920 titled "Why We Are Anti-Semites", he referred to and disparaged Abraham as racially Jewish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

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The Phineas Priesthood, also called Phineas Priests, are American domestic terrorists who follow the ideology which was set forth in the 1990 book, Vigilantes of Christendom: The Story of the Phineas Priesthood by Richard Kelly Hoskins.[1]

The Phineas Priests are not an organization, and they have no discernible leadership or institutional structure. For ideological adherents, a "Phineas Priest" is someone who commits a "Phineas action" - this means they follow the example of Phineas, a Hebrew man who, according to the Old Testament, was rewarded by God for killing an interfaith couple.The term "Phineas action" is broadly used by white supremacists, not only as a term for murders of interracial couples, but also as a term for attacks on Jewish people, members of other non-white ethnic groups, "multiculturalists," and anyone else who they consider their enemy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Priesthood








Gotta love that Abraham though huh!?  ;D


Then Yahweh said to Abraham: Calm down bro, it was only a joke. Besides, that's what non-humans are for! 

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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2020, 03:15:48 pm »
Why Trump Winning 2020 Is A Doomsday Scenario
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BycYTvfT6E4

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Guest: "How did the German people allow what happened in Germany to happen?"

For one, the German people were much better informed than westerners could ever dream of! These same ridiculous westerners will then go onto argue how the western "deep state" is full of warmongers, and most western states are run by corrupt, lying, politicians, yet will believe everything this same corrupt political class tells them about WWI and WWII. This is the double-think most westerners participate in on a daily basis. This is why to non-westerners with any discernment and truth on their side view most westerners as mind-**** zombies who are destroying this planet. Having said that even this non-westerner who wrote this article falls for western ignorance in regards to WWII, that is a demonstration of how pervasive western double-think and ignorance truly is, if nothing else:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/ignorance-and-indoctrination-of-westerners-kills-millions/

See also:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/western-revisionism-of-wwi-and-wwii/

As long as westerners continue to play into this nonsensical and delusional "thinking" they will never be capable of destroying the system that has caused them and the rest of the world SO MUCH suffering and turmoil. They are literally driving themselves insane with double-think.

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2020, 03:28:09 pm »
How many times did Hitler try and make peace with the west and it's "allied" forces?:




Westerners and their colonial subjects wanted nothing of Hitler's peace, did they? Neither did Judea!



See also:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/secret-societies-and-occult-forces/
http://aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-fascism/

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2020, 05:08:16 pm »
Westerners love to think of themselves as the 'good guys' who vanquished the evil anti-western Third Reich. Here is another example of western ignorance:
GOP Candidate Exposes Himself As Hitler Youth
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This GOP candidate’s history raises some serious concerns. He’s basically a Hitler youth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCPtEgeLXcc

It only takes one Hitler speech and one Hitler Youth photo to expose John's ignorance and idiocy. John obviously knows nothing about the Hitler Youth, but he likes to, as most other westerners also do, use Hitler's name to make others think he must be a good person because Hitler was clearly evil, everyone knows that right? John will forever be the 'good guy' like all other westerners because the west helped destroy the Third Reich, when in reality westerners have always been the 'bad guys' and one need only research western colonialism to realize this. Western thought and western culture is self-delusion at it's finest and multiplied x100!

Hitler speaks on the plight of the Palestinians and of USA and British hypocrisy 1939
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x309bue

Hitler Youth Palestine:




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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2020, 07:09:05 pm »
My response to the replies to my comment on the above video are suspiciously not showing. Western cowardice, I'm used to it.

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2020, 07:13:58 pm »
What, so you're talking about WWI/WWII revisionism now? I thought you people hated revisionism.
When in doubt, use the 16 Words: 'We must Engineer the Destruction of Western Civilization and Tribalism, and Unite All Races Through Nobility.'

Aryan ≠ 'White'.

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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2020, 01:01:23 am »
What, so you're talking about WWI/WWII revisionism now? I thought you people hated revisionism.

Notice the title of this thread reads: "Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII" not "True Left Revisionism of WWI and WWII"....


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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2020, 09:33:08 am »
What does that mean?
When in doubt, use the 16 Words: 'We must Engineer the Destruction of Western Civilization and Tribalism, and Unite All Races Through Nobility.'

Aryan ≠ 'White'.

History is Written by the Victors.

He Who Controls the Past Controls the Future; He Who Controls the Present Controls the Past.

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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2020, 12:09:35 pm »
It means western civilization revises it's history, the true-left does not.

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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2020, 04:07:13 am »
Growing up Black in Nazi Germany -Esther Anumu Fordham:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwz7kQtPPW0

Ignore the obnoxious interviewer who tries to get the interviewee to paint Hitler as a racist. If you want to feel good, check out the comments torching him.
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