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Re: Aryan bones
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2022, 09:47:38 pm »
Fascinating stuff dude!!! Definitely grabbing this book! Found this one interesting too:

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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2022, 04:28:07 pm »
I have read this book before--it is a work of phrenology (basically 19th century palm reading pseudo-science for the skull).

Obviously we can't actually tell a real individual's character solely from looking at their physical features, but the book does have some some illustrations of timeless physiognomic intuitions.



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Re: Aryan bones
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2022, 03:00:01 am »
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Which is why I find it amusing that when our enemies choose stock pictures to represent those whom they dislike, they have a trend of choosing narrow faces:

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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2022, 10:08:41 pm »
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Which is why I find it amusing that when our enemies choose stock pictures to represent those whom they dislike, they have a trend of choosing narrow faces:

I also find this more and more amusing as each days passes, as well as more and more noticeable that what you described is exactly what is going on!

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Re: Aryan bones
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2022, 04:44:47 pm »

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Re: Aryan bones
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2023, 08:29:10 am »
https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1464990083598090242?s=20
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This is a cross-section of metacarpal and femoral heads of primates. Look at the progressive decrease in trabecular bone density as we go from Chimpanzees to modern H. Sapiens.

Predictably, our Hunter-Gatherer (early H. Sapiens) ancestors had bones nearly twice as dense as ours.


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Re: Aryan bones
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2023, 04:35:39 pm »

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Re: Aryan bones
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2023, 04:40:18 pm »
ok. I will remove it then since it seems redundant to repost it.

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Re: Facial Aryanism
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2023, 07:04:59 pm »
@90sRetroFan What’s your opinion on height? I think I remember you saying that taller people are less likely to be neotenous, so the taller someone with an Aryan phenotype is, the more impressive it is to have their level of neoteny, and the stronger those genes would hypothetically be. Do you consider Aryans innately short or tall? And if you consider them innately short, would we still select for height in our population, for the above reason?

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Re: Re: Facial Aryanism
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2023, 07:06:26 pm »
Height is a positive force multiplier for ectomorphs. For non-ectomorphs it is irrelevant.

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Re: Re: Facial Aryanism
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2023, 07:14:24 pm »
@rp Can you elaborate more on this? I’m not sure I fully understand what you mean

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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2023, 07:19:36 pm »
The Aryan ideal body type is ectomorphy. An ectomorphic person who is tall is superior to a shorter ectomorphic person (this is because ectomorphy results in longer limbs compared to the torso), not accounting for other features. A non-ectomorphic person who is tall would not be considered superior to a shorter ectomorph.

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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2023, 07:32:40 pm »
That makes sense. But taller people consume more resources than shorter people, and height is something that differentiates us from our younger selves. So that would be a couple of points in favor for not selecting for height, or even for selecting for shortness. The reason why I asked 90sRetroFan, is that maybe height in an ectomorph acts only as a more obvious signal for Aryan genes, and isn’t necessarily something that we should directly pursue. Maybe it’s not a hard and fast rule, and it’s possible for a shorter Aryan to have genes as high quality as a taller Aryan, but it’s just easier to discern the quality level in a taller person

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Re: Re: Facial Aryanism
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2023, 07:46:54 pm »
"height is something that differentiates us from our younger selves"
Not necessarily. A person who was tall as a child and who is also tall as an adult would not be much different if they did not gain much of their height during puberty.

"isn’t necessarily something that we should directly pursue."
I don't know about this tbh. Although I certainly agree a tall ectomorph is better looking (Vijay himself has a nice frame), your comment about tall people consuming more resources does make more sense. 90sRetroFan can perhaps help clarify this.
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Re: Re: Facial Aryanism
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2023, 08:18:31 pm »
"Do you consider Aryans innately short or tall?"

I believe Aryans at the time of initial contact during the Neolithic era were shorter than Giants (which is why we called them Giants, duh!) but could have been taller than some other Gentile populations, for example:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/yayoi-earwax-trail/msg18125/#msg18125

so there is no general pattern. Zea_mays and I once theorized that one possible reason why non-Giant Gentiles worship Giants is because non-Giant Gentiles have blood memory of their ancestral rulers (Aryans) being taller than they were, so when they encountered "white" colonialists who were even taller than that, they subconsciously thought: "These guys must be the ultra-rulers before whom we must display even more deference!"

We even theorized that one reason why monarchism was weaker among Giant-descended populations than among everyone else is because it was Aryans who introduced monarchism everywhere:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aryan-monarchism/

but the Giants found it hard to view Aryans shorter than themselves as monarchs, whereas non-Giant Gentiles had an easier time viewing Aryans taller than themselves as monarchs. This also lines up with an observation that leading Hollywood actors (who are facially more neotenous and politically more left-leaning than the national average) tend to be shorter than the national average whereas leading actors in non-Western film/TV industries (who are facially more neotenous and politically more left-leaning than the national average) tend to be taller than the national average. And by no coincidence:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg21041/#msg21041

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celebrity-worship in Western countries generally lacks intensity

So it does not seem a stretch to imagine that monarch-worship among Giants similarly lacked intensity compared to monarch-worship among non-Giant Gentiles.

I liked the second half of this theory more than the first. I prefer the simpler blood memory theory that accounts for non-Giant Gentile worship of Giants directly by recognizing that Giants are likely to be able to hunt better (draw a heavier bow) than they themselves could.

On the other hand, Aryans have no reason to have a pro-tall bias. I have yet to be able to imagine a single way in which being taller leads to being better at farming.

"taller people consume more resources than shorter people"

Is this true if the two are the same weight?