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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2021, 12:14:13 am »
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Also, it's noble to reject Capitalist slave-labour.
Can those lazy unemployed crackers perform this type of strenuous labor? Are they even willing to in the first place?:
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Re: Western civilization is a health hazard
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2021, 11:38:45 pm »
In other words, don't take health advice from Westerners ever! Learn to trust your own body and consciousness. Westerners also love to believe that "one size fits all" because that is how Western capitalism and Western culture functions. Westerners love generalizations because they are incapable of treating people as individuals. What works for one person may not work for another person, but not in the Western mindset. If what works for them does not work for you a Westerner will believe their is something wrong with you. Watch all these Western fitness freaks on social media for a while with what is previously stated here and you will begin to see how flawed their thinking and attitudes actually are.

Early Rising Health Tips Just Lies?
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New research shows whether early risers or late sleepers have more fulfilled lives, and the results might shock you.


Maybe Your Sleep Problem Isn’t a Problem (Keep in mind it's 2021 and Westerners are still talking about shyte the ancients had already figured out long ago!)
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The conventional wisdom is that morning people are high achievers, go-getters, while late risers are lazy. But what if going to bed in the wee hours is actually an advantage?
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2021, 12:36:34 am »
From your link:

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My body naturally wants to go to bed around 2 a.m. and rise around 10 a.m. Whenever I try to adjust to an early schedule, my brain is like mush. Conversely, I light up like the Rockefeller 9 p.m., and for the next few hours I am my most me: alert, clever, inspired to create.
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“Night owls are not owls by choice,” he writes. “They are bound to a delayed schedule by unavoidable DNA hard wiring. It is not their conscious fault, but rather their genetic fate.”

(For further proof, researchers at Rockefeller University last year announced the discovery of a gene mutation that apparently accounts for D.S.P.S., meaning that I am, I suppose, a mutant, just like Godzilla and The Toxic Avenger).
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That might even serve an evolutionary purpose. When early humans lived in small tribes, as in the early scenes of “2001: A Space Odyssey,” staggered sleep schedules bestowed a survival advantage: Someone was always awake to watch for prowling leopards and club-wielding rivals, according to the book.

We have in the past hypothesized that preferring to sleep late is a Turanian trait, as nomadic herding requires guarding herds from nocturnal predators, as well as sometimes travelling at night.



Whereas getting up by sunrise is of course an Aryan trait, in order to start work while the air is still cool and finish the day's work before dusk. The article seems to agree:

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The rise of agriculture brought fields to till at daybreak.

In any case, night owls are inferior:

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Various studies have suggested that night owls also drink more, smoke more and have more sex partners (perhaps because it is easier to get lucky at a bar at midnight than in a Starbucks at 7 a.m.). Other research has drawn links to the dark triad of personality disorders: psychopathy, Machiavellianism and narcissism.
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“I was never a morning person,” Mark Zuckerberg, the Facebook founder, said in a 2016 Facebook video interview with Jerry Seinfeld. He reportedly rises around 8 a.m., hours later than traditional executives, but perfectly in line with hacker hours that prevail in Silicon Valley.
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Aaron Levie, the chief executive of Box, told Fast Company that he usually sleeps between 3 and 10 a.m. “I don’t use many apps,” he said. “I use naps.”
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In 2009, Satoshi Kanazawa, a provocative evolutionary psychologist from the London School of Economics and Political Science, inspired many headlines with a study that attempted to suggest that night owls may be more intelligent than larks.

Other researchers have suggested that we are preternaturally wired to take risks, a quality that I tend to associate with entrepreneurial verve. A 2014 University of Chicago study found that night owls were “associated with greater general risk-taking” in matters of finance, ethics and leisure.

We all already know Zuckerberg, but for those who don't know Levie:

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Aaron Levie was born to a Jewish family from Mercer Island, Washington, a small suburb of Seattle.
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2021, 12:58:43 am »
I was never a night owl, but my student life has made me into one for the past seven years. I am thinking of quitting and taking up another occupation, hence I created the "Aryan Occupations" thread in the "Questions and Debates" section.
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2021, 01:13:43 am »
Getting up early to farm is a whole lot different than getting up early because you think it is good for you health wise are very different concepts though, are they not? Getting up early to farm is a necessity and benefits a community, whereas the latter is for ones own supposed personnel gain, right? Even if getting up early was proven to be a health risk farmers would still have to do it, much like soldiers do....
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2021, 01:23:17 pm »
I would also add this to the debate:
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Obernigg provided British intelligence officers with a detailed description of Hitler's daily routine at the retreat. Hitler was said to favor waking up at about 10 a.m., breakfasted on coffee, bread and marmalade shortly afterward, and received visitors including his doctor in the afternoon. The accounts show he apparently worked until late in the night and went to sleep as late as 4 a.m.
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The deserter also described Hitler's attitude toward his personal guards.

"Hitler cannot bear to feel himself watched ... guards were instructed to keep him in sight but to remain unobserved themselves," said Obernigg, according to the files.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/newly-released-files-show-hitler-s-daily-routine-1.568696

I may not be able to relate to Hitler's sleeping schedule, but I can relate to him not wanting to be watched. lol!

Lastly, just because a farmer gets up at 5:00 a.m. to catch the sunrise does not necessarily mean he enjoys it. Did the aristocracy the neolithic revolution created also rise at 5:00 a.m. to catch the sunrise along with the farmers? What about the temple priests? There is some evidence that artists especially are night owls because they can maintain better focus when there's no people around to bother them. When I used to stay up into the early morning hours I was either playing video games or working on art. Now that I own my own business I cannot afford those hours any longer. I suspect many children are night owls because during those hours there are no working adults around....
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2021, 10:28:46 pm »
"There is some evidence that artists especially are night owls because they can maintain better focus when there's no people around to bother them."

I agree that artists can maintain better focus in quiet hours, but disagree that this implies they must be night owls. I myself access such hours by going to sleep early in the evening and getting up several hours before dawn. I imagine Golden Age Aryan artists similarly getting in a few hours of art before starting farm work, which seems to make more sense than trying to do art in physical fatigue after a day's farm work? (When I'm physically tired, I just want to eat and then sleep!)

"I suspect many children are night owls because during those hours there are no working adults around...."

I agree that children may relish quiet hours, but again waking extra early is as valid a way of accessing these hours as is going to sleep extra late.

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He was said to have been at Hitler's retreat in Obersalzberg in the Bavarian Alps between 1943 and 1944.

I doubt Hitler was concentrating on painting by then! He was much more likely working on WWII!
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2021, 06:16:30 pm »
Quote from: 90sRetroFan on May 02, 2021, 10:28:46 pm

I agree that artists can maintain better focus in quiet hours, but disagree that this implies they must be night owls. I myself access such hours by going to sleep early in the evening and getting up several hours before dawn. I imagine Golden Age Aryan artists similarly getting in a few hours of art before starting farm work, which seems to make more sense than trying to do art in physical fatigue after a day's farm work? (When I'm physically tired, I just want to eat and then sleep!)

Farmers only work full days during parts of the year when they need to till, sow, and harvest. If they eat the same calories in the same pattern (modest breakfasts, hearty dinners) during less labour intensive periods, surplus energy would be most concentrated after dinner when the body and mind are flooded with glucose, which is no longer all being quickly used up to replenish and recover.
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2021, 10:31:36 pm »
Or they could eat less.
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« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2021, 10:34:43 pm »
Exactly. My mother frequently remarks that those in non-agricultural occupations should not eat as much as those in agricultural occupations. I agree with her.
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« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2021, 12:22:48 am »
Interesting stuff. I would imagine farmers would eat more during the fall and winter months to gain some fat as a protection against colder weather, no? Is there evidence that neolithic peoples crafted winter clothing at all, or did they stay inside mostly near fires? (Even in a warmer climate region a drop of ten degrees will still feel cold to a person that lives in that region year round will it not?)
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« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2021, 06:03:28 am »
Quote from: NuminousSun on May 04, 2021, 12:22:48 am
Interesting stuff. I would imagine farmers would eat more during the fall and winter months to gain some fat as a protection against colder weather, no? Is there evidence that neolithic peoples crafted winter clothing at all, or did they stay inside mostly near fires? (Even in a warmer climate region a drop of ten degrees will still feel cold to a person that lives in that region year round will it not?)

I question whether we'd insulate ourselves with fat or just rev up our metabolism to increase heat production, since the body preferentially burns excess carbohydrates as heat and excitement rather than converting them to fat (de novo lipogenesis is notoriously inefficient). In any case, excess calories are already being used, so you'd need to intentionally eat more just so you can make art, or happen to have a hearty appetite (gorging is a hunter-gatherer trait) and spontaneously use that energy artistically.

But we're talking as if artists in the Neolithic were equally farmers. A hallmark of farming was that it created surplus which allowed for specialization. Art also doesn't require as many calories as physical labour, so instead of eating more, artists could choose to eat less in exchange for working less. The carbohydrate-rich diet of farming societies would be ideal for artists and thinkers in terms of caloric efficiency, since the brain disproportionately prefers glucose compared to the muscles.
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2021, 12:15:34 am »
I wanted to point out that Autism seems to be a different phenomenon (and hence would have evolved under different selective pressure) than ADHD. Autistic kids are usually ones who are only capable of doing the same activity for a long period of time, while they are unable to deal with multitasking. This is in contrast to ADHD kids, who are unable to do the same activity for a long period of time.

What do you think?
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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2021, 05:10:28 pm »
I think "autism" is such a broad spectrum and seems to consist of many different root causes manifesting with broadly similar 'symptoms', that it is useless to talk about the diagnosis as a single cohesive thing. Some people diagnosed with autism are so retarded that they are unable to understand/express many emotions and have severe difficulty learning things. Others seem to be somewhat normal people who fall into the extreme of "nerdy" personality traits, with normal intelligence but difficulty with social matters. Others still have been suggested to be "hyper-empaths" who are so perceptive of emotions and social matters that they become emotionally-overloaded and short-circuit. This outwardly manifests in symptoms that seem similar to the individuals who genuinely are unable to understand emotions.

Others may be diagnosed with autism because they do not comply with Western cultural and psychological standards. (For example, in many cultures it is discouraged or even considered an extreme taboo to make eye contact with people for various reasons, but apparently this is considered a major 'symptom' of autism. ...Or, you know, the child has been so traumatized by their parents/adults that they try to avoid initiating contact with them at all costs by avoiding eye contact).

I think this is similar to ADHD to some extent as well. There may be evolutionary causes for hunters and herders to have evolved ADHD, but kids are also diagnosed with ADHD simply because they get bored as hell by the Western school system, and instead of adapting the system to the kids, they drug the kids so they comply with the system.

(For reference, here's a study about how ADHD could benefit herders as well. I think there are other articles on this subject also.)
Did hyperactivity evolve as a survival aid for nomads?
Impulsivity and a short attention span may be the bane of every parent with a hyperactive toddler, but those same traits seem to help Kenyan nomads keep weight on. A gene mutation tied to attention...
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I recall reading a study which examined brainwave scans, which determined that a disease as uncontroversial as schizophrenia is actually something like 7 different things that all express somewhat similar symptoms, but have different root causes in the brain. Things like ADHD and autism, which are much more complex and have a broader range of symptoms, likely have many more root causes.
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2021, 09:52:05 pm »
Our enemies posted this first, so I will repost:



They even included a second picture:



Recall from the top post in this topic:

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