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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2022, 07:25:30 pm »
Revisiting:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-adhd/msg6035/#msg6035

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night owls are inferior:

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    Various studies have suggested that night owls also drink more, smoke more and have more sex partners (perhaps because it is easier to get lucky at a bar at midnight than in a Starbucks at 7 a.m.). Other research has drawn links to the dark triad of personality disorders: psychopathy, Machiavellianism and narcissism.

Guess what?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-says-fairly-nocturnal-110250584.html

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Elon Musk says he is "fairly nocturnal" and only sleeps about six hours a day.

The world's richest man made the comments during an August 5 episode of The Full Send podcast.

He said he usually goes to sleep at about 3 a.m. and wakes up after about six hours at 9 a.m. or 9:30 a.m.

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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2022, 12:45:51 am »
Sriram Krishnan: The Indian-American 'helping' Elon Musk run Twitter
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-63481873
Face:


More about Sriram:
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/wme-signs-sriram-krishnan-aarthi-ramamurthy-1235146180/
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S. Somasegar, a legacy Microsoft executive and current venture partner at Madrona Group, noted in the same profile that “a lot of people in the industry join companies like Facebook or Twitter and are happy to be there for decades… but Sriram and Aarthi are not content with the status quo. They have a restlessness that drives their curiosity and a need to ask questions.”

I have always theorized that in the tech industry, regular workers, even those that make it to the executive level, are less Westernized than VC/founder types, due to the latter selecting specifically for traits such as extrovertedness, innovativeness, and aggressiveness. Contrast the face shape of this well-known tech worker turned executive with the previous image:


More about Pichai:
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/20-years-of-google-iit-kgp-remembers-sundar-the-student/story-m1A6akTDlLWQszk7uLBTIN.html
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Former professors of Google CEO Sundar Pichai remember him as “shy, quiet , but extremely intelligent” in class


Bonus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start-up_Nation
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The Council on Foreign Relations states in its publisher's blurb for the book that Start-up Nation addresses the question: "How is it that Israel—a country of 7.1 million people, only sixty years old, surrounded by enemies, in a constant state of war since its founding, with no natural resources—produces more start-up companies on a per capita basis than large, peaceful, and stable nations and regions like Japan, China, India, Korea, Canada, and all of Europe?"[5] The Economist notes that Israel now has more high-tech start-ups and a larger venture capital industry per capita than any other country in the world. The success of Israel's high-tech sector over the past two decades has attracted recent attention from business journalists and The Economist describes Start-up Nation as the most notable of a "growing pile" of books on the subject.[6]

What do you think? Do you agree with this theory, or merely think it is a coincidence?
« Last Edit: November 14, 2022, 01:24:26 am by rp »

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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2023, 11:24:12 pm »

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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2023, 08:40:20 am »

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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2023, 04:21:16 pm »
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes:

https://us.yahoo.com/news/titanic-missing-submersible-search-passengers-believed-dead-titan-recovery-190229608.html

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"These men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure

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Nothing of value was lost (except the rescue efforts that could and should have been more efficiently spent on helping refugees in the Mediterranean instead):



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Wanted the thrill of watching the Titanic? Congratulations, you are now part of it.

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Now we can stop reporting about this dumb story.

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Absolutely zero sympathy for any of them.

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meanwhile hundreds of people we label as "migrants" simply looking for a place to live and work sink on a boat off the coast of Greece and get BY FAR less attention and resources than these wealthy daredevils. What a truly unjust world.

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They could have put that money to much more useful purposes for the animals of the ocean or their fellow human beings.

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To all the mega wealthy in our world, if you have been well-blessed with an abundance of money, please help out the poor.


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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2023, 04:25:10 pm »
The personality type that our enemies admire (and that Western civilization encourages - note positive correlation with wealth):

https://vdare.com/articles/remember-the-titan-why-do-super-rich-people-take-such-crazy-risks

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Look at what Rush and Harding said and did before the trip.

Here is Rush, on the subject of safety and “breaking the rules”:

    You know, at some point, safety just is pure waste. I mean, if you just want to be safe, don't get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don't do anything. At some point, you’re going to take some risk, and it really is a risk/reward question. I think I can do this just as safely by breaking the rules.
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Harding was an adrenaline junkie who not only went into space but also explored Challenger Deep, the deepest part of the Marianas Trench at 36,000 feet, a Guinness record. “If something goes wrong, you are not coming back,” he told a reporter of that voyage [Hamish Harding, an Explorer Who Knew No Bounds, Dies at 58, by Alex Williams, The New York Times, June 22, 2023].
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even the reasonably wealthy, being high in Extraversion, are big risk-takers who chase the positive reward of the stimulation and dopamine hit that risk provides them. Their openness to novelty makes them feel the same way: It triggers dopamine and adrenaline [The neuromodulator of exploration: A unifying theory of the role of dopamine in personality, By Colin DeYoung, Frontiers in Human Neuroscience, November 14, 2013].

A specific study of the super-rich found the relationship even more pronounced. They are extremely high in openness and extraversion compared to the general population. Their need for the stimulation associated with entrepreneurial risk-taking not only helps them make money but also makes them attracted to extraordinarily dangerous and superficially-bizarre adventures.

They are also low in agreeableness. That endows them with the killer instinct that helps them rise to the top of the business world, yet also suggests they are unlikely to say to themselves, “I’d best not go this fantastically dangerous jaunt, it might worry my wife and children.” They are also very low in neuroticism, so they don’t worry much about the consequences of their risks
[Extroverted, but not neurotic: Here's how the ultra-wealthy score on personality tests, By Taylor Nicole Rogers, Business Insider, September 14, 2019].

So, simply from the modal personality type of the super-rich, we can understand why something as manifestly minacious as a voyage to the bottom of the sea in a tiny, relatively untested craft would be attractive.

But here’s even more to their spirit of adventure than that. They want to “feel alive,” as the old saying goes.

Some evidence shows that we “feel alive” under stress, particularly in a life-threatening endeavor. Under this kind of stress, we are in an “evolutionary match” with our own past. For most of human history, everyone was surrounded by death and disaster. So when we are exposed to what is known as “mortality salience” or just extreme stress more generally, evolutionary instincts kick in.

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Unfortunately for the Titan’s ill-fated passengers, this desire to feel “alive” cost them their lives. But their adventure should not be dismissed as a wasteful, vanity project for people who have too much money and therefore deserve a bigger tax bill, as one British-Asian journalist wrote [Boris Johnson hits out at ‘lefties’ questioning Titanic sub trip: ‘They are heroes’, Independent, June 23, 2023].

It should be condemned as a wasteful vanity project for people who have too much inferior blood and therefore deserve to to prohibited from reproducing. See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg10405/#msg10405

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg10444/#msg10444

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/msg17837/?topicseen#msg17837

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/msg14867/?topicseen#msg14867

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/msg18371/?topicseen#msg18371

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/msg17117/#msg17117
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Re: Non-Aryan ADHD
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2024, 05:56:09 pm »
https://www.iflscience.com/adhd-may-have-improved-survival-of-foragers-who-knew-when-to-quit-73061

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ADHD May Have Improved Survival Of Foragers Who Knew When To Quit
Once again, human diversity may have been key to humanity’s rapid success.

Evidence has emerged for the evolutionary benefits of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in paleolithic times, potentially explaining its presence today. Indeed, in the study done, ADHD proved so advantageous it’s fair to ask why not everyone has it.

The presence of genetic conditions considered to be disadvantageous has posed a puzzle at least since Darwin. In some cases, mutations too recent to have been eliminated by natural selection can be blamed, but the survival of other traits only makes sense if we acknowledge they come with survival-enhancing factors. These may be less obvious than the drawbacks, but can be just as real.

Conditions like sickle cell anemia, for example, have long been recognized as a side-effect of survival enhancers, in that case, partial protection against malaria for carriers. Now, neurodiversity is starting to be considered in the same way. It's been proposed that ADHD may help stop foragers from wasting their time on fruitless searches, and now a team have found a way to test the idea.

University of Pennsylvania researchers had volunteers play a foraging game and perform a task seeking as many online berries as they could find within eight minutes on a virtual bush. After finding the most obvious fruit, participants had the choice of staying on the same bush or migrating to another one. The declining resource richness had to be weighed against the “travel” time to a new bush.

Participants were not clinically tested, but were asked to self-assess on a well-established ADHD survey. A remarkable 45 percent met the level considered indicative of ADHD, far above the level in the population. Whether this was because the way participants were recruited caused more people with ADHD symtpoms to sign up, or because the test was done during the pandemic when ADHD symptoms rose even among people not normally affected, is unknown.

Whether they had ADHD symptoms or not, everyone in the trial was more likely to move patches when the travel time to the alternative was shorter. Any other outcome would indicate something badly wrong with the test or make one wonder how humanity survived at all.

Almost as predictably, people with ADHD symptoms were more likely to choose to abandon their bush than neurotypical people. Interestingly, participants on average stayed longer in the familiar patch, despite declining rewards, than mathematical models predict would be ideal. As a result, people with ADHD symptoms got 16 percent more berries, although even they stuck around longer than would have been perfect for the conditions.

This raises the possibility the game does not accurately reflect the conditions in which humans evolve – for example by not taking into account the energy required to journey between bushes.

Nevertheless, it makes clear that under certain circumstances it’s a good thing to not be quite so stuck on a task.

“Our findings suggest that ADHD attributes may confer foraging advantages in some environments and invite the possibility that this condition may reflect an adaptation favoring exploration over exploitation,” the study’s authors report.

If ADHD was a universal winner for our ancestors, we would expect almost everyone to have it. Moreover, the authors note that hundreds of species’ approaches to such tasks have been tested, and all show similar patterns as to when to abandon a familiar, but declining, patch for pastures new. Something in our past must be driving most people to stay at the same bush in this game longer than would be ideal.

Whether this is because most foraging tasks were not like the one the game portrays, with greater penalties for moving too soon, or because perseverance was more useful at other tasks, is unclear.

Either way, it is likely our ancestors benefited from the neurodiversity within local populations. With some conditions favoring those with the symptoms we now call ADHD, and some favoring those without, tribes did best when they had a mixed population. Individual survival was as affected by the fitness of the tribe as the individual, so a diversity of mental approaches became fixed in the population, with some only becoming labeled a disorder much more recently.

A similar idea was recently proposed for developmental dyslexia, suggesting having a few people who preferred to explore new environments over efficient exploitation of familiar ones may have been key to survival in changing times.
Full study: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2022.2584