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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2024, 04:17:36 am »
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It is not unreasonable to entertain the possibility that regions with less precipitation would bring about evolution of a higher intelligence. Greater precipitation causes greater growth of vegetation so that gathering is relatively easy.

The importance of vegetation in the evolutionary increase in intelligence is strongly implied by Lynn and Vanhanen (2012, p. 380), who said:

When these peoples settled in the temperate and colder latitudes of North Africa, Asia and Europe, they encountered the problem of survival during the winter and spring. This was a problem because the first humans that evolved in equatorial East Africa subsisted largely on plant foods, of which numerous species were available throughout the year (Lee, 1968; Tooby and DeVore, 1989). In temperate and cold environments plant foods are not available for a number of months in the winter and spring. Thus, “plant foods are often available only during short seasons” (Gamble, 1993, p. 117) and compared to warmer environments there would have been fewer edible plant species, and a concomitant requirement for increased reliance on animals . . . and the obvious problem of keeping warm, including the likely necessity of controlling and even making fire. In effect, these northern temperate environments “pushed the envelope” of Homo’s adaptation (Wynn, 2002, p. 400).

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Templer, D. I., & Stephens, J. S. (2014). The relationship between IQ and climatic variables in African and Eurasian countries. Intelligence, 46, 169–178. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.intell.2014.06.001

Hitler was closer culturally to Equatorial East Africa rather than North Africa, Asia, and Europe, because he relied on plants rather than meats. Therefore Hitler was not part of Western Civilization which heavily relied on meats

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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2024, 11:39:54 pm »
Short Description of "White European" Morality according to Coudenhove Kalergi, Austrian Politicians and Philosopher

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"The white man is a son of winter: to overcome the cold, He had to tense his muscles and mind to excel and create new Suns for himself. He had to overcome ever hostile nature

Always the active and heroic man of the North defeated the passive culture of the south:

The Goth and Viking carving up Rome
The Mongols over China
The Aztec over the Yucatan

Through religion and communal culture; the more civilised south pacified and assimilated the barbaric Northmen"


Uberboyo's comment :

What defines us Northmen... that is to say... us Europeans... is precisely this active and heroic spirit - Spengler has called it the Faustian spirit

This spirit is Pagan in its moral feel: individualism, brave, heroic, and self reliant - it is also informal and chaotic

The Christian feel is something much more from the South - it is the formal religious structure - where community, love, self sacrifice, and harmony predominate

Its no wonder Christianity conquered the world in the confused multicultural city of Rome - infact, this same instinct is what gives rise to modern Socialism in the Industrial Western City

The spirit of the future is such a conflict between these two forces: The Pagan and the Christian - because they both have strong claims to authority

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Christianity and Paganism: The Western Ideal - Uberboyo

https://twitter.com/uberboyo/status/1733856351284019597

Beware of Turanism!
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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2024, 11:02:36 am »
Interesting example of how even tropical ectomorphs become adapted to cold climates:
https://www.businessinsider.com/vivek-ramaswamy-republican-presidential-candidate-strive-roivant-demanding-manager-2023-9
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Chief among them: A relentless fixation on temperature. Not only can Ramaswamy not stand the heat, these people said — he dictated that the office thermostats at Roivant and Strive had to be set to 64 degrees or below. The workspaces were so frigid, former employees told Insider, that coworkers resorted to using space heaters at their desks and wearing their Roivant-branded Patagonia fleeces to ward off the chill.

Of all things I learned about Vivek, this was the one I found the most surprising, as his parents are from Kerala (South India), and he is an ectomorph. But I think this might have something to do with him growing up in Ohio, which is known for its unusually cold winters.

I have similarly known people from India who became accustomed to cold climate after living in the United States.

(BTW, note the inferiority of the employees. Although using air conditioning is inferior to not using air conditioning, using space heaters while the air conditioning is on is a whole new level of inferiority!).

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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2024, 04:28:27 pm »
"he is an ectomorph"

WTF?! Look at that torso:




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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2024, 05:09:18 pm »
So a weird combination of low muscle mass + long torso? His limbs seemed pretty long compared to the rest of his body when sitting down (although, to be fair, he is also dressed) and he is also considerably thinner than most other candidates.

Either way, I don't think it has much influence on his heat tolerance. I would consider greater lean mass having a more negative impact on heat tolerance, than say, torso length, as in Vivek's case, the torso, while definitely long, is not jarringly longer than his limbs as in the case of meso/endomorphs.

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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2024, 05:39:41 pm »
"low muscle mass + long torso"

Not just the length, also the girth. Besides, ectomorphs should have visible ribs.
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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2024, 05:52:01 pm »
Yeah that's what I noticed as well. When I first saw that pic I found his body type weird tbh. His low BMI gives you the outward impression of ectomorphy when he is dressed. Having a tropical climate ancestry plus Aryan metabolism (which is why he is also not "skinny fat") could explain this.

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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2024, 06:01:45 pm »
"His low BMI"

Do you have a number?

"he is also not "skinny fat""

Are we looking at the same pictures?!?! Look at his waist circunference!
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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2024, 06:03:32 pm »
Just a relative comparison to other candidates purely based on observation. He himself has described himself as "skinny" in contrast to his "White" peers.

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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2024, 06:16:21 pm »
"He himself has described himself as "skinny" in contrast to his "White" peers."

That is also a form of Eurocentrism.



"other candidates"

Marianne Williamson seems more ectomorphic.

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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2024, 06:39:16 pm »
I was talking about the Republican side (mainly Trump, Christie, and Desantis), but I guess the democrat side as well (aside from Marianne).

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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2024, 06:44:13 pm »
" Look at his waist circunference!"
I see, but it appears more toned then most "skinny fat" people (although this could also be due to exercise, but the increased waist circumference could also be due to age). He also doesn't have that much abdominal fat from what I can tell (again, could be due to exercise).

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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2024, 02:12:15 pm »
"Marianne Williamson seems more ectomorphic."
Would you look at that, an ectomorphic Jew. Not often you see one of those.

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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2024, 04:31:26 pm »
"the increased waist circumference could also be due to age"

That in itself would be an indication of non-ectomorphy. Actual ectomorphs are metabolically neotenous and hence do not gain weight/fat due to aging. Here are some example of old ectomorphs (also note face shapes esp. compared to Ramaswamy's):









To keep it related to the original topic, these are warm-climate-optimized bodies.

"He also doesn't have that much abdominal fat"

Not that much by Eurocentric standards, but a lot by Aryan standards.
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Re: Temperature effects
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2024, 09:58:22 pm »
"Not that much by Eurocentric standards, but a lot by Aryan standards."
Good point. A "White" person with his metabolism and (vegetarian) diet would be looking like Chris Christie, but a person with Aryan metabolism and the same vegetarian diet would look something like myself.