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Posted by: Pop
« on: October 11, 2025, 07:25:29 pm »

To many western minds poor or tyrannical democratic leadership is not the fault of the democratic system, but is the responsibility of the other people who voted for the wrong leader. Ultimately it's the people's fault. To these same western minds poor or tyrannical leadership in any other governing system besides democracy is the fault of that system alone, not the people or the leadership.

To the logical mind, poor or tyrannical leadership can ruin any system. However, under autocracy the responsibility for poor or tyrannical leadership rests solely with the leadership and system in place, never solely with the people as it does in democracy. The irrational mind of the average westerner drives me crazy. Listening to westerners stumble over one logical fallacy after the other on the internet daily is certainly disheartening to behold.

Tyrants and poor leadership make autocracy look bad. Democracy does not make autocracy look bad, well, except in the mind's of the average delusional and irrational westerner...

Tyrants and poor leadership can make any form of government look bad, including democracy!

(Haven't watched the video below yet, but I thought the title alone was fitting for this post):

This king is so good his people refused democracy
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/this-king-is-so-good-his-people-refused-democracy/vi-AA1HoZQQ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ASTS&cvid=68eaf013ac45466381af9f382bf7ddc9&ei=200
Posted by: rp
« on: September 16, 2025, 09:48:11 pm »

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-09-16/trump-approval-rating-isn-t-terrible-ahead-of-2026-midterms
Posted by: Disingenuous?
« on: May 14, 2025, 12:48:14 am »

Quote from: rp on November 13, 2024, 08:39:25 pm
I theorize that the founding fathers (although Westerners)were not necessarily democrats:


What is your opinion?

We're witnessing it ourselves in 2025. This is exactly what has happened. The scum of society have taken over U.S. democracy and subverted it. The same happened in Germany in the 1920's. Infact, can anyone name a democracy that has not been subverted by the scum of any given society, eventually?

I have noticed that to Western Democracy advocates, all other ideologies are false, subservient to western democracy. To westerners, when an ideology fails, it is the fault of the ideology, not the small-minded men who eroded that ideology from the inside out with their ignorance and stupidity. However, to these same westerners, the failure of western democracy is not because the ideology of western democracy itself is flawed, but it was the small-minded men who ruined democracy with their ignorance and stupidity.

Are westerners ever honest about anything with themselves and others, or do they maintain the same tribal instincts as Jewry and automatically lie to anyone who is not part of the western tribe, just like Jews do? (Not saying that Jews do not lie to non-Jewish westerners whenever they can either, of course!).
Posted by: Disingenuous?
« on: May 14, 2025, 12:15:10 am »

Quote from: antihellenistic on November 06, 2024, 08:55:26 pm
Quote from: 90sRetroFan on November 06, 2024, 05:18:52 am
This time we can't even blame the Electoral College:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

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Nominee   Donald Trump   Kamala Harris
...
Popular vote   70,877,484[1]   63,416,374[1]

Still supporting democracy, leftists?

I can without regret to say that Americans are degenerate today. Americans are an unethical dumbass

Some of the dumbest to have ever existed on this planet in my opinion, George Lincoln Rockwell's too of course. Hitler would blame U.S. media, but not the way U.S. false-leftists and rightists do!

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: May 12, 2025, 07:49:40 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17GHEKqu9w0
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 29, 2024, 04:49:01 pm »

Still supporting democracy, leftists?

https://rmx.news/article/half-of-austrians-back-remigration-47-believe-they-are-being-replaced-by-migrants/

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A new poll shows that half of all Austrians back remigration while 38 percent say they would not want to live next to a Muslim.

The poll, conducted by Documentation Center of Austrian Resistance (DÖW), reveals that Austrian society is still firmly to the right on a number of key issues.

The poll found that 50 percent of Austria say “extensive remigraiton is urgently needed.” Another 47 percent agree with the statement that “Austrians are being replaced by migrants.”
Posted by: rp
« on: November 14, 2024, 09:10:57 pm »

So many rightists (esp. from "Dark Enlightenment" circles) calling themselves "anti democratic" but in reality want to return to true democracy.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 13, 2024, 10:24:03 pm »

Yes, hence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

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"The original conception of the Electoral College, in other words, was a body of men who could serve as a check on the uninformed mass electorate."[59]
Posted by: rp
« on: November 13, 2024, 08:39:25 pm »

I theorize that the founding fathers (although Westerners)were not necessarily democrats:


What is your opinion?
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: November 06, 2024, 08:55:26 pm »

Quote from: 90sRetroFan on November 06, 2024, 05:18:52 am
This time we can't even blame the Electoral College:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

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Nominee   Donald Trump   Kamala Harris
...
Popular vote   70,877,484[1]   63,416,374[1]

Still supporting democracy, leftists?

I can without regret to say that Americans are degenerate today. Americans are an unethical dumbass
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 06, 2024, 05:18:52 am »

This time we can't even blame the Electoral College:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

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Nominee   Donald Trump   Kamala Harris
...
Popular vote   70,877,484[1]   63,416,374[1]

Still supporting democracy, leftists?
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: September 02, 2024, 05:38:34 pm »

High-T men do not ask whether something is true. They ask whether they can enforce a claim that it is true:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/red-coup/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/trump-launches-2024-presidential-campaign/

They are the source of the "brute force manufactured consensus" mentioned in your screencap.

Posted by: rp
« on: September 02, 2024, 06:47:49 am »

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1830309413179306209?t=WJoQt8dQnGd3d1Bpb36Qlg&s=19
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Also known as the Reich effect.
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: August 22, 2024, 10:28:32 am »

The truth about Democracy

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Democracy, moreover, is European and heavily influenced by the Enlightenment and Christianity (an organization of celibate priests could not have hereditary offices, so voting was essential to church government). The leftist idea that the whole world should embrace democracy is pitiably ethnocentric.

Nor, as is commonly argued, is Western democracy a recently evolved and therefore particularly advanced form of government. The oldest parliament in the West, the Icelandic Althing, was established in 930, and there were clearly democratic tendencies in the ancient Italian republics, the Hanseatic municipalities, and the charters of the Swiss cantons.

Nor is it accurate to find stark differences between democracy and despotism. Unlike the Orientals, Indo-Europeans have seen very little despotism. In the Illiad, in ancient Rome, in Vedic India, and among the Hittites, there were popular assemblies that decided civil and military matters. In the West, kings were elected, and monarchy did not become generally hereditary until the 12th century. Even then, kings shared power with elected parliaments. In the West, virtually every system has therefore been a mix of collective and solitary rule. Some would even call the Athenian system not so much a democracy as an extended form of aristocracy.

...

After this blistering critique, what is left of democracy for Mr. de Benoist to support? To answer that question he takes us back to ancient Greece. He notes that in Athens, each citizen had an equal voice in the ekklesia or assembly, but emphasizes that “the crucial notion here is not equality but citizenship.” Slaves had no voice, not because they were slaves but because they were not citizens, and almost without exception, the only way to become a citizen was to be born of an Athenian mother and father.

As Aristotle pointed out, Athens came first and citizens were born into it. Mr. de Benoist notes that “this view stands in contrast to the concept of modern liberalism, which assumes that the individual precedes society and that man, qua individual, is at once something more than just a citizen.”
Thus, the main difference between ancient Greek democracy and our own is not what are always told: that theirs was direct democracy whereas ours takes place through elected representatives. Instead, we have completely different conceptions of society:

Ancient democracy defined citizenship by one’s origin, and gave citizens the opportunity to participate in the life of the city. Modern democracy organizes atomized individuals into citizens, primarily viewing them through the lens of abstract egalitarianism. . . . The meaning of the words “city,” “people,” “nation” and “liberty” radically changes from one model to another.

Mr. de Benoist continues:

The effective functioning of Greek democracy, as well as of [ancient] Icelandic democracy, was first and foremost the result of cultural cohesion and a clear sense of belonging. The closer the members of a community are to one another, the more likely they are to have common sentiments, identical values, and the same way of viewing the world and social ties, and the easier it is for them to make collective decisions concerning the common good without the need for any form of mediation. Modern societies . . . have ceased to be places of collectively lived meaning.

Source :

Jared Taylor, American Renaissance, March 8, 2013

https://www.amren.com/news/2023/07/the-problem-of-democracy/
Posted by: Capital
« on: August 03, 2024, 01:29:24 am »

Minority Rule Is Threatening American Democracy Like Never Before
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Everyone seems to be talking about saving democracy this year. “American democracy, that’s what the 2024 election is all about,” Joe Biden has emphasized, painting the threat of Donald Trump’s return to power as the central issue in the 2024 campaign. “We have to prove that our model isn’t a relic of history.”

But the crisis facing American democracy is much older and deeper than Trump and it is, indeed, a relic of a very different time in US history.

In a new video companion for Mother Jones, based on my forthcoming book Minority Rule: The Right-Wing Attack on the Will of the People—and the Fight to Resist It, digital producer Sam Van Pykeren explores how the US political system was created to restrain democracy, not protect it. The founders essentially placed a ticking time bomb at the heart of our political system—and this could be the year it explodes.

As Ari explains in his book, it all dates back to the birth of American democracy, when the Founding Fathers created political institutions within a system that concentrated power in the hands of an elite, propertied, white male minority. More than 200 years later, the series of compromises the founders made have increasingly vested the majority of political power in the hands of a minority of the population—a reactionary conservative white minority that is seeking to entrench and hold onto power through a wide variety of anti-democratic means.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKQpp31dPTc

Comment:

Never forget it was majority rule that gave the wrong minority ultimate rule. Majority rule sometimes gets it right, but more often than not majority rule gets it completely wrong, especially from an absolute moralist and absolute truth perspective.