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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 25, 2026, 06:23:56 pm »

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crime statistics in the US don't really
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reflect who commits crimes but rather
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who gets policed arrested and ultimately
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targeted

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arrest
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data reflects the decisions made by law
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enforcement which are influenced by
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racial biases of course rather than
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serving as an accurate measure of who is
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actually committing crimes but with very
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careful cherry-picking racists who seek
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to uphold a certain level of Oppression
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use this data out of context to make it
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appear that black communities are
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uniquely prone to violence when in
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reality the number reflects the
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priorities and biases of a criminal
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justice system that has always
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disproportionately targeted black people

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overp policing in Black
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communities drastically inflates crime
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statistics that are then by spectacular
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feat of circular reasoning used to
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quotquot prove that African-Americans
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are more prone to criminality black
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neighborhoods are subject to far more
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intense surveillance than white
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neighborhoods

This is accurate.

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the relationship between
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poverty and crime should not go unsaid

This part True Leftists should not accept. It actually contradicts the point above (which was arguing that "blacks" are not more criminal) by now accepting that "blacks" (who are indeed on average poorer than "whites") are more criminal!

The notion that poverty is the main cause of crime is a False Leftist argument popular back when (before the age of smartphone video recording) most False Leftists believed policing was fair. Now that we have overwhelming evidence that policing is unfair, it is stupid to continue to use this argument.

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the effects of white
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collar crime are significant but they
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don't apply that white call Crime
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siphons off between 300 and $600 billion
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annually through corporate fraud
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embezzlement and Healthcare scams these
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crimes destroy lives bankrupt families
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and destabilize entire communities yet
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the perpetrators white wealthy and
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Powerful usually are rarely held
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accountable and therefore operate in
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plain sight the best and most recent
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example is the destructive power of the
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2008 financial crash and the media's
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fixation on Black Street crime instead
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which helped distract everyone from the
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fact that the very powerful people
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responsible for the crash faced
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absolutely no consequences in fact in
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some ways they were rewarded for
Conclusion
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it

This is accurate. It also contradicts again the notion that poverty is the main cause of crime!
Posted by: antizion
« on: January 25, 2026, 11:33:28 am »

What would be True-Left arguments to counter these claims?
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 03, 2025, 04:37:02 pm »

I've moved it back, but as this is the True Left vs Right forum, if your sources (such as this first video) include False Left arguments against rightist claims, you should point out which they are so as to not make it appear as though we endorse such arguments.
Posted by: antizion
« on: December 03, 2025, 09:35:43 am »

@90sRetroFan

Can you move my thread back. Since rightoids often talk about crime, we need a dedicated threat to debunk them. It's their main talking point, so it's quite important. 
And as you pointed out, police have a rightist bias. This is "justified" with the crime stats arguments. Even more reasons for a dedicated debunk thread.

Also this current thread is about the illegitimacy of post-Reinaissance ethnic categories, while important, it's a entire different topic.

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 14, 2025, 06:17:47 pm »

Posted by: antizion
« on: November 14, 2025, 04:55:09 pm »

Rightoids love to claim that "non-white"-perceived people have a higher crime rate. This is their core justification for their prejudice, so it is important to counteract this claim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giGsSWY_Bgw