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Posted by: Sunlight
« on: July 07, 2026, 07:13:25 pm »

I'm gonna have to let time clarify that one
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: July 06, 2026, 05:06:53 pm »

I have no idea what is going on here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSxgKhhmlEM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Chao

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A September 16 letter from the Oversight committee to Chao documented allegations that the Department of Transportation was forced to cancel a trip to China in 2017 that Chao had planned to take because State Department ethics officials challenged her attempts to include her family members in official meetings with the Chinese government.


Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: May 10, 2026, 05:08:40 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPsgtsrRmbo

Realistic comments:

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Trump would give up Taiwan for a perceived big deal.

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they'll both be scoring points with each other for buddying with Putin. I see Ukraine losing ground over this meeting.

Hopeful comment:

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I still have the feeling that this summit will not go ahead as planned. There will be some reason Trump doesn’t go.

I would definitely prefer no dialogue between the US and China until both Trump and Xi are out.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: March 09, 2026, 03:43:42 am »

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/asia/us-china-running-world-together-china-says-no-thanks-rcna262278

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The concept of a “G2” — a more exclusive version of the Group of Seven or Group of 20 forums — was introduced in 2005 by American economist C. Fred Bergsten to underscore the importance of communication between the world’s two biggest economies. Though it was initially embraced by some policymakers, the idea fell out of favor in Washington amid rising tensions with Beijing, including during Trump’s first term.

This was the correct approach, an application of successional unipolarity as I explained previously:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/msg28598/?topicseen#msg28598

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One thing I can't stand is how many useful idiots have picked up the Duginist term multipolar world and now use it with positive connotations (thereby unwittingly serving Duginism). Back in the Counterculture era, the very notion of a multipolar world would have been considered both barbaric and hazardous. What we believed in back then was a unipolar world at any one time, with the pole being voluntarily passed from one country to another over time. Just as America took over from Britain, we were expecting Japan to take over from America, and then China to take over from Japan, and then India to take over from China, and so on. (Of course, the tacit understanding was that no Western country would ever be given the pole again.) To advocate for a multipolar world is to disrupt this orderly process of succession just described. (Homework: which civilization has the greatest selfish incentive to support a multipolar world?)

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/msg28609/?topicseen#msg28609

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One pole at a time offers enough flexibility (compared to the same pole all the time) for a subsequent pole to address problems neglected or poorly handled by its predecessor. It allows each current pole country to voluntarily step down as soon it feels the next country is ready to step up, as opposed to trying to hold onto the pole for itself at any cost long after its prime has passed, and crashing catastrophically when it finally loses its grip. This should be the preference of all with sincere folkish intentions (ie. not Duginists).

I personally view the successional unipolar world as a product of hydraulic thinking. Initially one river supplies the most water, so we build canals from that river, and the main village on that river manages the water supply. But later we notice signs of the river drying up, so we reroute the canals to an adjacent river, whereupon of course a different village (surely one on this new river) should now manage the water supply.

The US disrupted the expected line of succession outlined above by refusing to pass the pole to Japan following the end of the Cold War, instead pre-emptively using:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord

to sabotage Japan. But if the US can now pass to China, at least the principle of successional unipolarity can be saved. Unfortunately, China is rejecting it. Back to the first link:

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Wang said China will “never seek hegemony or expansion” and that it wants to build “an equal and orderly multipolar world.”

Duginist alert! An "equal and orderly multipolar world" is oxymoronic. That poles exist implies non-poles exist also, which already ensures inequality. That multipoles exist ensures disorder greater than with a unipole only.

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“Looking back in history, great power rivalry and bloc confrontation have invariably inflicted disaster and pain on humanity,” he said.

Great power rivalry and bloc confrontation are literally what you get with a multipolar world, you moron! A pole is literally the same thing as a great power, and a bloc is the pole + the totality of its followers, therefore having more than one guarantees trouble.

Looking back in history?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Sinica

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Pax Sinica (Latin for "Chinese peace"; traditional Chinese: 中華治世; simplified Chinese: 中华治世; pinyin: Zhōnghuá Zhìshì) is a historiographical term referring to periods of peace and stability in East Asia,[1] Northeast Asia,[2] Southeast Asia,[1] and Central Asia[3] led by China. A study on the Sinocentric world system reveals that the multiple periods of Pax Sinica, when taken together, amounted to a length of approximately two thousand years.[4]

Back to first link:

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“The agenda of high-level exchanges is already on the table,” he said. “What the two sides need to do now is to make thorough preparations accordingly, create a suitable environment, manage the risks that do exist and remove unnecessary disruptions.”

You know someone is incompetent when they talk while saying nothing.

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Wang reiterated Beijing’s calls for an immediate halt to military action and a return to dialogue, saying the war with Iran “does no one any good.”

On the contrary:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/iran/msg32306/#msg32306

But, as I said above, Wang is a Duginist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Yi#Russia

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In his 2022 meeting with Wang at the SCO, Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov attended praised the "traditional friendship" between Russia and China.[19] Wang reaffirmed support for Russia, saying that China will "firmly support Russia, under the leadership of President Putin … to further establish Russia's status as a major power on the international stage".[78]
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In December 2022, Wang defended China's position on the Russo-Ukrainian War and said that China would "deepen strategic mutual trust and mutually beneficial cooperation" with Russia".[79]
Wang and Xi at the 16th BRICS summit in Kazan, Russia, 22 October 2024

In February 2023, Wang announced his peace initiative for the Russian invasion of Ukraine at the 59th Munich Security Conference.[80]
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While the plan attracted support from Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said that the plan "doesn't have much credibility because [the Chinese] have not been able to condemn the illegal invasion of Ukraine."[82]
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In July 2025 Wang Yi allegedly told European diplomats in an unofficial meeting that China does not want Russia to lose the war in Ukraine.[85][86]
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: March 04, 2026, 06:33:49 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a9Q_wS79Ms

I agree that the reporter's question was not offensive, and that so many felt offended by it is a problem with the entire "New China" mentality that will keep US-China relations inside a vicious cycle of negativity.

I also suspect that Gu being given the prestige that she has in China is itself a symptom of  Eurocentrism. The US-born athletes mentioned in the previous post who choose to represent UK/Sweden/etc. are not especially prestigious in those countries. Why is Gu so prestigious in China (above even other athletes representing China with more medals than her)? I think we all know why.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 25, 2026, 05:30:02 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkBynYq906c

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there is
4:01
someone playing for the New Zealand
4:03
team, nobody's talking about them.
4:04
There's someone Americanb born playing
4:06
for the UK team, nobody's talking about
4:09
them.

Even though the American Revolution was literally against the British Empire. This is further evidence that US rightists are not Americans at all, but Western occupiers. Commenters have also noticed this:

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They didn't say **** when Armand Deplantis won pole vault gold for Sweden, even though he was born and raised in the US.

But then False Leftist Fiorentini starts failing:

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heralding Alyssa Louu's win and
4:22
saying she just became the first woman
4:24
to wi woman to win the freekate gold
4:26
medal since 2002 and she refused to
4:29
compete for China and she's woke. I mean
4:34
this is quite literally the meme of like
4:39
you know the fighter jet dropping a bomb
4:41
and the Democrat one has like you know
4:43
an LGBTQ plus flag like she's woke but
4:47
we still hate China.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/alysa-liu-trump-comments-resurface-205405952.html

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What has Alysa Liu said about Trump?

While Alysa Liu hasn’t directly said anything about Donald Trump himself, she has criticized his policies. “I definitely do care what our country is doing,” she said in an interview with KARE 11. “I think it is really important also to notice the faults in our own government. Things are a little rough. There’s so many protests that are going on and I’ve attended. Coming from a family of immigrants, I think immigrants deserve rights.”

“I mean, coming from a family of immigrants, like, I think immigrants deserve rights. I think it’s a little silly, especially in America.”

Alysa’s teammate, Amber Glenn, who’s a fierce critic of the Trump administration and an advocate for LGBTQ+ rights, also posted a TikTok carousel featuring the two rocking out their gold medals. She captioned the post, “If ‘Woke’ means people who use their platforms to advocate for marginalized communities in the country that they are actively representing……. Then yeah sure?”

I do not see a problem with US leftists praising Liu for being anti-Trump. In fact, I would like to see China proactively praising Liu as a true American, thereby implying that US leftists are the true Americans. Unfortunately, "New China" is all about comparing Liu unfavourably to Gu:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czr07r0vengo

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one is being hailed a trailblazer, while the other is deemed a traitor. At least that's the case in the eyes of some in the US. On Chinese social media, it's the other way around.

So long as this continues, can we blame US leftists for finding it hard to like China?

In fact, the only difference is that whereas US rightists have no problem with US-origin athletes representing other countries so long as these countries are Western (as Fiorentini accurately pointed out), "New China" attacks Chinese-origin athletes representing other countries even if these countries are non-Western:

https://www.scmp.com/sport/china/article/3321581/chinese-table-tennis-fans-slam-harimoto-over-medical-timeout-against-wang-chuqin

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Chinese table tennis fans have accused Japan’s Tomokazu Harimoto of feigning injury to take advantage of a medical timeout as he won the World Table Tennis Champions Yokohama title against Wang Chuqin.

Harimoto, who was born to Chinese parents, stunned world champion Wang 4-2 at the Yokohama Buntai arena on Monday to win his first WTT Champions crown since lifting the European Summer Series in 2022.

However, Chinese fans cried foul play, posting images of Harimoto calling for a medical timeout and seemingly gesturing towards his left leg, only to have a physiotherapist massage his right leg.

I actually agree that Harimoto is an extremely annoying individual. But this is still no excuse for Eurocentrism:

https://www.chosun.com/english/sports-en/2025/12/08/CUL46ZMRIVGXBJ3MDWGXLDJNBE/

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In the third round between Japan and France, Chinese spectators cheered “Fight!” whenever a French player scored. They showered Japan with jeers when they scored.

 ::)
Posted by: rp
« on: February 12, 2026, 09:49:31 am »

Lol. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black:
https://www.npr.org/2026/02/12/g-s1-109738/u-s-says-peru-could-lose-sovereignty-to-china
Posted by: Pop
« on: December 18, 2025, 05:02:29 pm »

Classified Simulations: China DEFEATS US 97/100 Times!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9DEjURyMfg
Posted by: PotatoChip
« on: December 15, 2025, 01:59:01 am »

China, Colombia Lambast US Seizure of Oil Tanker Off Venezuela
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EBz_9mh3Hn8
Posted by: SodaPop
« on: December 12, 2025, 03:30:25 pm »

Why China’s Trade Surplus Just Keeps Growing
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Last week, China released new data suggesting that their total trade surplus this year exceeds $1 trillion, more than any other country. In this video, we're taking a look at how this surplus happened, why Trump's tariffs haven't really affected it, and whether it's sustainable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GoPDabhoyU

In other words, Trump's "trade war" is a complete failure and TACO and his sycophants have no clue what they're doing or talking about. Surprise, surprise, I know. :)
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 25, 2025, 07:13:15 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fofNgmYKpFE

When do we get back to this?

Woke comments:

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Putin is driving a wedge between US and China

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China always talks about revenge for the "age of humiliation" in the 1900's.
But Russia invaded China too and took huge terrains in the Manchuria, attacking China when it was already beat up by the west, especially the British.

So, when Xi speaks about revenge or retaliation of these times, especially from western countries,
when will he claim back the Manchuria?
China has definetly a bigger historical claim on that region than on Taiwan.

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no one is talking about how weak Russia is now and how China can take this opportunity to get all that land back or all of Russia if they want

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Not too many Chinese want to know Russia stole a lot of their territory!!!

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I was a Chinese nationale, and lived my younger life there.  No one, school, university, tv, radio, told us those history.

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As a chinese grew up in China, first time I heard the story.

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In fact, that's the Nazi Germany policy wanted to team up with a united China against the Soviet Union.
Posted by: SodaPop
« on: November 14, 2025, 12:43:10 pm »

Shifting US opinion towards China. Chinese survey regarding military and economy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qiYegAck9g

@10:25 "Friends of China". The U.S. is at the bottom. Russia is at the top of the list.
Posted by: rp
« on: October 11, 2025, 08:35:01 am »

https://x.com/gonglei89/status/1976765349304713613?t=qDih3zn8tjP6ra35nckiGw&s=19
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This isn’t China’s full hand. China’s full hand would be total shutout of access to China’s supply chain for US businesses and coordinated dumping of USD with other countries that are looking to evacuate their reserve positions. People still don’t understand China’s leverage
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Why did China suddenly decide to show its full hand?
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p.s. anything by @KeithBradsher on China's control over rare earths is worth reading closely.    China clearly decided to show its full hand yesterday; it thinks it has the high cards

nytimes.com/2025/10/09/bus…

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 19, 2025, 07:32:53 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuNHt1-uWjE

Russia (which set up Trump's second term) will be the biggest winner from using the US (now increasingly unpopular) to attack China while in public pretending to side with China (now becoming more popular).

China could have prevented the above with (as I recommended back then) military invasion of Russia the moment Russia invaded Ukraine. Now it may be too late.

Of course, Norton himself is a Duginist, therefore will ignore that US-China conflict will leave both the US and China fatally weakened, and most importantly not mention who benefits most from this.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/msg30469/#msg30469
Posted by: SkullsForTheSkullThrone
« on: June 02, 2025, 12:08:11 am »

China claims U.S. violated trade deal, vows to hit Trump admin with "forceful measures"
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China has accused the U.S. violating the trade deal that the world's two largest economies signed last month and vowed to take "resolute and forceful measures," per a briefing on Monday morning local time.

Why it matters: It's the latest sign of deteriorating relations between the two nations after they agreed in Switzerland last month to a 90-day deal to lower tariffs on each other while they negotiated on trade.

President Trump accused Beijing on Friday of violating the agreement, one day after Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent described negotiations as "a bit stalled."
Driving the news: A Chinese Commerce Ministry spokesperson said Beijing "firmly rejects these unjustified accusations," per translations of the comments that were carried by state media.

The spokesperson alleged the U.S. had "seriously undermined" and "violated" the trade agreement by issuing "export control guidelines for AI chips, stopping the sale of chip design software (EDA) to China, and announcing the revocation" of visas for Chinese students.

"If the U.S. insists on its own way and continues to damage China's interests, China will continue to take resolute and forceful measures to safeguard its legitimate rights and interests," unnamed official added, without elaborating further.
The other side: While Trump didn't go into details on his claims that Beijing had "totally violated" the trade deal, administration officials have pointed to delays in sending critical minerals to the U.S., which are needed for American auto, electronics and defense industries, that formed part of the agreement.

"What China is doing is they are holding back products that are essential for the industrial supply chains of India, of Europe, and that is not what a reliable partner does," Bessent said during a Sunday interview on CBS News' "Face the Nation."
What we're watching: U.S. National Economic Council director Kevin Hassett said Sunday he expects Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jingping will hold a phone call this week as part of negotiations.

Bessent said on CBS he's "confident" that the two sides' issues "will be ironed out" once Trump and Xi spoken.
"But the fact that they are withholding some of the products that they agreed to release during our agreement — maybe it's a glitch in the Chinese system, maybe it's intentional," he told CBS' Margaret Brennan. "We'll see after the president speaks with [Xi]."
Beijing had not commented on any plans for a call between the two leaders as of late Sunday.
Representatives for the Trump administration did not immediately respond to Axios' requests for comment on Sunday night.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-claims-u-s-violated-trade-deal-vows-to-hit-trump-admin-with-forceful-measures/ar-AA1FTPGg?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=03157a8538934a8da1f6ac4324a4e735&ei=13