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Posted by: IveBeenWondering?
« on: May 06, 2025, 09:42:11 pm »

Quote from: 90sRetroFan on May 06, 2025, 06:03:17 pm
What we figured out in the 00s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj8nh8_Se7A

But False Leftist Kulinski still refuses to conclude that those such as Walsh/Fuentes/etc. (who are of course not fascists, since the Roman Empire was not homophobic* whereas they are) must be physically exterminated (this is fascism).

(* Only under Judaic influence did homophobia take hold in Rome:

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As the empire was becoming Christianized in the 4th century, legal prohibitions against marriage between males began to appear.[154]
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By the end of the 4th century, anally passive men under the Christian Empire were punished by burning.[221] "Death by sword" was the punishment for a "man coupling like a woman" under the Theodosian Code.[222] It is in the 6th century, under Justinian, that legal and moral discourse on male–male sex becomes distinctly Abrahamic:[223] all male–male sex, passive or active, no matter who the partners, was declared contrary to nature and punishable by death.[224] Male–male sex was pointed to as cause for God's wrath following a series of disasters around 542 and 559.[225]


See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/what-did-the-romans-think-about-race/msg17886/#msg17886 )

I've been wondering lately, with so many false-leftists having a panic attack about Fascism every day on the YouTubes, what would happen to these people if they actually got outside occasionally and started looking around, only to realize they are surrounded by Fasci in the U.S., and in Western civilization as a whole, would they go into full blown mental meltdown?:


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A bronze cast of Jean-Antoine Houdon's statue of George Washington. Washington's left arm rests on a cloak over fasces with thirteen rods.

Furthermore, if Fascism is all about unity and competent government, how could anyone honestly call Trump a Fascist?

In false-leftists like Kulinski's worldview, George Washington is not Fascist somehow, but Donald Trump is? Lunacy and strange obsessions with subjects you refuse to understand, because slogans work better!? WTF is that actually!?!?!
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 20, 2024, 02:46:27 am »

"Hitler was Antifa"

I do not recommend this choice of terminology. Present-day antifa are either not opposed to communism (unlike Hitler) or if they are opposed to communism do so from an anarchist perspective (unlike Hitler who was a statist).
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: December 19, 2024, 08:54:03 pm »

Hitler Critics on Fascism







Hitler was Antifa (Antifascist)
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: October 28, 2024, 03:08:38 am »

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At times, conservatism can manifest a form of ultranationalism that stands apart from fascism. This type focuses on xenophobia and the concept of an organic society as means to safeguard existing or bygone social frameworks from perceived deterioration.

...

It's important to correct the misconception that ultranationalism is exclusively tied to the framework of a nation-state. Ultrananationalism can take on forms that go beyond traditional national boundaries.

Source :

Zoltanous. (2022, November 3). What Is Fascism? Retrieved October 28, 2024, from Substack.com website: https://fascio.substack.com/p/what-is-fascism
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: October 27, 2024, 07:30:55 pm »

Real meaning of Fascism

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...we must create an ‘ethical state’ that benefits the whole society. The nation, for Gentile, is not just a collection of individuals united by a common goal (a concept he calls immoral). The nation, he said, unites all people in one state - one superconsciousness. And it is through the state and the nation that the individual forms himself. ‘Individualism and egoism,’ he said, ‘are problems that must be overcome.’ And Gentile said ‘that true self-fulfillment can only be achieved by becoming one with the State and the historical community’. One important thing to take away from all this is that, although we are spiritually connected, Gentile recognizes the individual as a consciousness that stands alone.

Watch the video at minute 37:56 to 38:51

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Racism is not mentioned in the 'Doctrine of Fascism' written by Gentile and signed by Mussolini. And in 1937, Gentile even wrote an article saying that German anti-Semitism was a "monstrous barbarism" unworthy of a civilized society.

Watch the video at 41:33 to 41:54

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The Fascist Movement is NOT on the “Far-Right” Political Spectrum. They are on the third positionist Political Spectrum.

Minutes 52:59 to 53:12

Source :

https://youtu.be/q_ReESRfV8g?feature=shared
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: October 14, 2024, 03:43:44 am »



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Actually, Marxism acknowledges biology as a direct ontological outgrowth of "material reality" where as Fascism proclaims the consciousness of the mind to be the basis of reality. You thus have it reversed.

Marxism is built on dialectical materialism and Lenin's vulgar materialism holds biology as reality beyond the mind because in Lenin's view, even consciousness itself is the product of matter.

Fascism, on the other hand, is built on Gentile's philosophy of "Actual Idealism" or "Actualism" which fundamentally rejects the vulgar materialism of Engels and Lenin, and proclaims Marx to have been a "confused idealist".

In fact, critical race theory came out of Fascism. It was critical race theory that was used to construct the Italian national identity which was otherwise not actualized due to the decentralized sense of ethnos in Italy at the time. People identified more with their regions and cities than they did with the concept of an "Italian nation". It was the critical race theory of Fascism that gave rise to a sense of "Italianess" and thus the self recognition of an "Italian nation"

The Fascists developed "critical theory" first. The Frankfurt School simply adopted it for their own purposes.

There are two aspects to "critical theory". "Consciousness construction" and "consciousness deconstruction". Both these aspects are useful tools in creating new social constructs, maintaining current social constructs or destroying old and outdated social constructs.

Source :

https://t.me/TheFascifistArchive/4829
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: October 14, 2024, 03:21:38 am »

New Leftist movements begin to form a new ideological worldview

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In short, assimilation as a societal goal has grave potential consequences for blacks and other nonwhites. However utopian it appears, the color-blind assimilationist program implies the hegemony of white culture.

Minute 3:04

Critical Race theorist believes that between integration and color blindness all all of this rhetoric about trying to downplay the significance of Race in our mind is not working out for minorities, so they call for a sharp correction in the opposite direction, by trying to normalize something they call race consciousness.

Being Race conscious doesn't mean that you have kind of a casual dim awareness of race, but it means that you look at race with profound significance, whether it's how you self identify, or maybe how you look whether it's how you self identify or maybe how you look at other people or maybe how you interprate just the general phenomena of the world. So this is a radical idea that critical race revolutionary root in black nationalism and in thinkers like Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael who both argued against integration in favor of forming race conscious collectives that could powerfully stand in society without integrating.

In critical race theorist's own words, with it's explicit embrace of race consciousness, Critical Race Theory aims to re-examine the terms by which race and racism have been negotiated in American consciousness, and to recover and revitalize the radical tradition of race consciousness among African-Americans and other people of color

"With its explicit embrace of race-consciousness, Critical Race Theory aims to reexamine the terms by which race and racism have been negotiated in American consciousness, and to recover and revitalize the radical tradition of race-consciousness among African-Americans and other peoples of color - a tradition that was discarded whem integration, assimilation and the ide: of color-blindness became the official norms of racial enlightenment."

Minute 3:11 - 4:29


Critical Race Theorist looked at academia, and they looked at the traditional ways that they felt the academics are supposed to behave. And they boiled it down to a few values that academics are supposed to have, and those values were to be objective, neutral, and balanced. And they say those values aren't shared American values or even shared worldwide academic values, but instead values specifically from the white world

So, Critical Race Theorist believe that if you as an academic try to be objective, neutral, and balanced regardless of your skin color, your academic voice is "white". If your skin color happens to not be White, it just means that you've integrated into the white world, and in this case effectively lost your racial identity when it comes to your academic voice. So Critical Race Theorist think that this Is racist, because they think it presumes they the superiority in this case of White academic values, and they want to put forward their own Race conscious alternative that would be designed to be distinctively not white. And that's a voice that they grounded in the concept of authenticity. Authenticity here means resisting integrating into the pressures of the white world, so if you integrate to the white world, you're inauthentic. But if you remain true to yourself by resisting integrating as someone, that's not "white", then you're authentic.

...

Authentic non-white academic voice, as specifically being subjective and political

Minute 6:53 - 8:26


...there is need to talk "one man, one vote" a little less and to talk a little more of "political equity" and of functional components of effective representation.

Minute 14:48 - 14:53

Capitalism is essentially racist; racism is essentially capitalist. They were birthed together from the same unnatural causes, and they shall one day die together from unnatural causes.

Minute 15:23

that we should return to racial nationalism at least if we're "not white" ...

...the exclusion of a nationalist approach to racial justice from mainstream discourse has been a cultural and political mistake

Minute 16:00

Source :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rDu_VUpoJ8

The Enemy Forum's Comment :



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It should be noted that Critical Race Theory is heavily derived out of National Socialist Thought. The area of "subjectivity" and "authenticity" specifically comes from Martin Heidegger.

The opposition to bourgeois "objectivity" by "authenticity" is verbatim taken out of Heidegger's theories on Dasein. CRT is far more Heideggerian than it is Marxist.

Source :

https://t.me/Stalinist_Revisionist_Channel/1219



Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: October 01, 2024, 05:16:56 pm »

I am happy to see the term "fascism" used correctly for once:

https://rmx.news/article/more-afraid-of-democracy-than-for-democracy-afd-ban-moves-forward-in-german-parliament/

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Germany is heading closer to outright fascism as the establishment parties move to completely ban the rival Alternative for Germany party (AfD), currently the second-strongest party in the country, according to polling.
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FDP MP Katja Adler slammed the motion on X, writing: “One could get the impression that the supporters of the ban are more afraid of democracy than for democracy.”

This is correct. I am a supporter of the ban*. I am extremely afraid of democracy. The popularity of the AfD is a good example of why.

(* Not that I consider a ban alone to be enough. I advocate physical extermination of all AfD voters.)

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Sahra Wagenknecht also expressed criticism of the ban, telling “T-Online” that instead of taking the legitimate concerns of AfD voters seriously, they wanted to get rid of the unwelcome competitor by banning it.

AfD voters have no legitimate concerns. Of course we want to get rid of unwelcome competitors by banning them! Refugee lives are at stake FFS! You think maintaining a popularity contest is worth endangering refugees?!

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Various AfD politicians have already responded to the ban proposal.

“I think that’s great. A ban motion against the AfD, supported by the CDU and SPD. We will request a roll call vote. That delegitimizes every single applicant and every yes-sayer and every abstention vote as anti-democrats.

Yes, we are anti-democrats! All anti-AfD people should admit it proudly! Once we admit it, the AfD can no longer attack us for it! It is only when you try to claim that the AfD is anti-democratic that you look ridiculous!

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There are also worries from the establishment that a ban procedure would last years, during which time, the ban procedure itself would only strengthen the AfD.

Not if the AfD has to contend with daily assassinations.

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Those opposed to the AfD already have a plan B if their efforts to ban the party fail, which would be to cut state funding to the party, which would effectively mean the end of the party, as it would no longer be able to fund its activities or pay employees.

It would be funded by donations from supporters. Enough of these half-measures! The correct way to attack the AfD is with bullets and bombs!

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Germany is now the only Western country that is seriously attempting to enact a ban on a major opposition party. Although such actions are routine in non-democratic nations, it would mark a dark day in German history and point to the rise of fascism and a party oligarchy in the country once again.

This is accurate.
Posted by: rp
« on: September 18, 2024, 07:57:02 am »

Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: August 30, 2024, 05:24:35 am »

On Fascism part II :

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"Gentile... believed that the true state - his ethical state - was a corpus - a body politic - hence corporate state - and that the state was more important than the parts - the individuals - who comprised it because if the state was strong and free so too would be the individuals within it; therefore the state had more rights than the individual."

"Only within the ethical state could individuals realise themselves as proper individuals."

Source :

Reference: Farrell, "Mussolini: A New Life," Chapter 11.

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"The great social and constitutional reform that Fascism is accomplishing, instituting the corporative syndicalist regime as a substitute for the [old-fashioned capitalist] liberal State, arose out of the very character of the Fascist State."

"Fascism accepted from Syndicalism the idea of the educative and moral function of the syndicate."

"But since the intention was to overcome the antithesis between the State and the syndicate, the effort was made to enter the system of syndicates harmoniously into corporations subject to discipline by the State and to thereby give expression to the organic character of the State."

Source :

Reference: Gentile, Origins and Doctrine of Fascism, P29.


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"The people is the body of the state and the state is the spirit of the people. In the Fascist concept the people is the state and the state is the people... The tools with which the idealita is achieved in the state, are the party and the corporation."

Source :

Reference: Mussolini, from Farrell, "Mussolini: A New Life," Chapter 11.

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"The Nationalist state was [an] aristocratic state, that constructed itself out of the force it inherited from its origin, that made it valued by the masses."

Source :

Reference: Gentile, Origins and Doctrine of Fascism, P28.


National Socialist's Critics on Fascism

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Fascism: If we work together, we will have the power to achieve any goal we want. (“It is humiliating to remain with our hands folded while others write history. It matters little who wins. To make a people great it is necessary to send them to battle even if you have to kick them in the pants. That is what I shall do.” – Benito Mussolini)

National Socialism: This is our goal. The only way to achieve it is to work together. ( “They are inspired by the feeling that they have a mission to fulfill, and we might just as well egg them on a little.” – Adolf Hitler)

Source :

National Socialism and Fascism - Aryanism

https://web.archive.org/web/20191220034415/http://aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-fascism/



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"..we know from intimates of Hitler, and from his table talks, that he was highly critical of Italian Fascism."

"While Hitler proclaimed repeatedly that National Socialism and Fascism were related in Weltanschauung, or spoke of the 'community of the Fascist and National Socialist revolution', his criticism of the Italian system grew increasingly sharp, particularly after his visit to Italy in 1938."

"One might almost say that fascism has reacted upon the creative life of the Italian people somewhat like sterilization. It is, after all, nothing like National Socialism."

"While the latter goes deep down to the roots, fascism is only a superficial thing. That is regrettable, but one must recognize it clearly."

"National Socialism is really a way of life [eine Weltanschauung]. It always begins at the beginning and lays new foundations for life."

"That's why our task is so difficult, but also so beautiful, and the goal ahead is well worth our best effort." - Joseph Goebbels

Source :

Reference: Goebbels, 6 Feb 1942, from "The Goebbels Diaries: 1942-1943," P71.

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: August 30, 2024, 02:36:41 am »

The second quote is idiotic. Decisions made by fascist (or any autocratic) leader need not be popular because the decisionmaker does not need to worry about re-election (unlike in democracy). This is the whole point. Not having to worry about being popular is what enables decisions with longer-term effects in mind. This is why we keep saying ecofascism is needed: the decisons that need to be made will make life considerably less comfortable for the next few generations and hence are bound to be unpopular, but only such measures will actually allow us to solve environmental problems.
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: August 30, 2024, 02:22:11 am »

On Fascism

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"So far as foreign people already living here are concerned, so long as they conform to British standards, as laid down by the Fascist State, they will be permitted to live and work on exactly the same basis as British subjects." "There will be no discrimination and no persecution because of race or religion." "Foreigners, however, who break the economic code of Fascism, or the social code, will be deported." - Oswald Mosley

Source :

References: Mosley, "Fascism for the Million." p53.

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"The Fascist State, on the other hand, is a popular state, and, in that sense, a democratic State par excellence."

Source :

References: Gentile, Origins and Doctrine of Fascism, p28.
Posted by: guest122
« on: February 17, 2024, 06:03:34 pm »

Have you guys seen this
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: January 17, 2024, 11:51:37 pm »

National Socialism root of Counterculture Movement

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What is "the big lie" of the Democratic Party? That conservatives—and President Donald Trump in particular—are fascists. Nazis, even. In a typical comment, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow says the Trump era is reminiscent of "what it was like when Hitler first became chancellor."

But in fact, this audacious lie is a complete inversion of the truth. Yes, there is a fascist threat in America—but that threat is from the Left and the Democratic Party. The Democratic left has an ideology virtually identical with fascism and routinely borrows tactics of intimidation and political terror from the Nazi Brownshirts.

To cover up their insidious fascist agenda, Democrats loudly accuse President Trump and other Republicans of being Nazis—an obvious lie, considering the GOP has been fighting the Democrats over slavery, genocide, racism and fascism from the beginning.

Now, finally, Dinesh D'Souza explodes the Left's big lie. He expertly exonerates President Trump and his supporters, then uncovers the Democratic Left's long, cozy relationship with Nazism: how the racist and genocidal acts of early Democrats inspired Adolf Hitler's campaign of death; how fascist philosophers influenced the great 20th century lions of the American Left; and how today's anti-free speech, anti-capitalist, anti-religious liberty, pro-violence Democratic Party is a frightening simulacrum of the Nazi Party.

Hitler coined the term "the big lie" to describe a lie that "the great masses of the people" will fall for precisely because of how bold and monstrous the lie is. In The Big Lie, D'Souza shows that the Democratic Left's orchestrated campaign to paint President Trump and conservatives as Nazis to cover up its own fascism is, in fact, the biggest lie of all.

Source :

The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left Hardcover – Illustrated, July 31, 2017

https://www.amazon.com/Big-Lie-Exposing-Roots-American/dp/1621573486

Our enemy agree with Souza

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President Biden has also reinstated diversity trainings for federal employees. All federal agencies must do an internal review to advance “equity.” This means equal outcomes, not equal opportunity, and will require discrimination against whites and Asians.

The military is not exempt. The Pentagon is doing its own internal review to “identify and combat white supremacy and other far-right extremism.” Black Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin warned Congress that “enemies [may] lie within our own ranks.” The military requires diversity training, and Ibram Kendi’s How to Be an Antiracist is on the Navy’s Professional Reading Program. The Pentagon even attacked cable news host Tucker Carlson after he mocked diversity efforts. A memo on the “Extremism and Insider Threat in the DoD” published by Politico shows that the brass think fairly common symbols such as the “OK” sign, the Punisher logo (used by legendary sniper Chris Kyle), and the “Come and Take It” slogan are potential “symbols of extremism.”

Governments at different levels openly discriminate against whites in ways that go beyond affirmative action. Joe Biden said that the federal government would prioritize reopening small businesses owned by blacks, Hispanics, Asians, “Native Americans,” and women — in other words, everyone except white men. Evanston, Illinois is paying reparations to blacks. Oakland will have a basic income program that excludes whites.

Reason asks whether this is even legal. That misses the point. How did this even happen? And what white person (and what lawyer) will sue to stop these programs and face media hostility and possible danger from antifa?

The foundation is already built for denying white advocates and even ordinary conservatives legal protection. One journalist suggests it is somewhat scandalous for public defenders to represent people who rioted at the Capitol on January 6. USA Today ran a story complaining that defendants were actually trying to raise money to hire lawyers. The federal government is working with the Anti-Defamation League (and probably other groups) to use the vast national security apparatus against “far right” groups, a label that could apply to millions of Americans.

Major corporations are joining the “antiracist” effort. Amazon donated $10 million to groups supporting “justice and equity,” highlighting its efforts with a web page with a huge black-nationalist flag. The largest asset-management company in the world is BlackRock; Chairman Larry Fink’s “Letter to CEOs” told companies to address “racial justice” and disclose “your long-term plans to improve diversity, equity, and inclusion.” Goldman Sachs, the largest underwriter of Initial Public Offerings, refuses to take an American company public unless there is a woman or non-white on its board (foreign companies can do as they please). Health care company Cigna not only teaches employees about Critical Race Theory but even has Communist Angela Davis on its reading list.

“Woke Capital” is anti-white and preaches Critical Race Theory. This doesn’t just mean you might lose your social media account. A bank can cut you off from basic financial services.

Some conservatives might call this “fascism,” but I’m more interested in who those in power are targeting than how they are doing it. We shouldn’t retreat to stale conservative talking points such as “antifa are the real fascists.” Our rulers are punishing whites who defend their race, not because they are a government of “liberal fascists,” “radical socialists,” or Chinese stooges. Nations sometimes pursue different ends through the same means. The Soviet Union, the United States, and the Third Reich all controlled their economies in the 1930s and during World War II. All used propaganda. All limited individual liberties and regional autonomy in the name of a collective good. Of course, these systems weren’t the same, and the ends they pursued were different. That is what matters.

Jonah Goldberg’s Liberal Fascism badly damaged the American Right because it convinced countless conservatives that using state power, pursuing the common good, or encouraging collective efforts are degrees of “fascism.” Many race realists and white advocates roll their eyes at conservatives who make claims that liberals are really “fascists” when they pursue goals like mass vaccination, but conservatives and libertarians aren’t stupid. They believe fascism is about means and methods, not goals.

Ends are more important than means. Elites in different countries use similar techniques to govern their populations, but that doesn’t mean they are the same. For example, the United States uses a Social Credit System like China’s. China’s is run mostly through the state. America’s is run through the private sector. However, the problem with America’s Social Credit System isn’t just that it’s tyrannical. It hurts the country. China’s system boosts national pride, health, and productivity. Ours undermines these values.

There are other tactics used by past regimes that are like those we face today. After the National Socialists took power, the Reichstag fire was a justification for the Enabling Act that centralized power. Joseph Goebbels and other officials forced public and private into line with National Socialism. This was called Gleichschaltung, or “co-ordination.”

Again, the aims our rulers pursue are different. Dinesh D’Souza suggested in The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left, that we are somehow governed by the ideological descendants of Nazis. Modern progressives’ obsession with seeing and fighting imaginary “Nazis” everywhere makes this a ridiculous claim. Calling the other side “the real Nazis” never works anyway.

Nonetheless, Mr. D’Souza is correct when he suggests that some of the tactics today’s progressives use are the same. “Progressives in America are using their dominance — actually their virtual monopoly — in the fields of academia, Hollywood, and the media to enforce their own Gleichschaltung,” he wrote in 2017. Now that we’ve seen practically every major institution in America reoriented to fighting “racism” as a central goal, it’s hard to disagree.

Source :

Posted on April 9, 2021 Coordination and Decomposition Gregory Hood, American Renaissance, April 9, 2021

https://www.amren.com/features/2021/04/coordination-and-decomposition/

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: August 27, 2023, 05:29:58 pm »

Continuing from:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-anti-whiteness-476/msg21619/#msg21619

I academically agree with our old enemy Weston:

https://gatesofvienna.net/2023/08/caucasophobia-on-thames/

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London Mayor Sadiq Khan appears to be an Islamic fundamentalist with a burning hatred of England and the English. His office recently put out side-to-side photographs showing a wholesome looking English family strolling along the Thames riverbank with the caption “Not representative of Londoners.” Alongside this was one of Khan himself, surrounded by the sort of people he would like to see in place of hated old whitey, captioned “Positive and optimistic.”

In actual fact, Khan isn’t wrong about white families being non-representative of London; the English now account for only 45% of London’s population and are rapidly declining even as the positive and optimistic non-white demographic is rapidly growing. But Khan wasn’t talking about demographics and percentages; he simply doesn’t think England’s capital city should be represented by the English at all, period. The sooner we are air-brushed out of London, England and the entire world, the better.

In order to fully appreciate the virulent anti-white hatred here, try to imagine two photographs put out by Hitler’s 1930s Nazi regime, one showing a Jewish family in Berlin happily sauntering Spreeside, the other a photograph of Hitler himself surrounded by SS soldiers — and above both photographs the same captions utilised by Sadiq Khan, albeit with Berliners rather than Londoners.

If you think my mentioning Hitler in the same breath as Khan is an example of gross exaggeration and paranoia, I can only point out that Khan has gone well out of his way to help people with a distinct admiration for Adolf. The first is Louis Farrakhan, the black supremacist leader of the Nation of Islam who has repeatedly denounced white people as a race of devils who deserve to die. Farrakhan doesn’t like Jews much either. He describes them as Satanic and has repeatedly stated Hitler was a Great Man.

Farrakhan was barred from entering Britain in the early 2000’s after the British government described the Nation of Islam as a Hate Group. This annoyed Khan intensely, and as a purported human rights lawyer back in the day, he sought to overturn this government ban. I think it is fair to say Khan spent as much time and energy trying to get Farrakhan into Britain as he later did as mayor of London in trying to keep President Trump out.

Are False Leftists paying attention?