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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 25, 2024, 04:16:40 am »

Posted by: Recordheat
« on: July 24, 2024, 11:59:12 am »

Not that there were dinosaurs on the planet 100,000 years ago...

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Once the air temperature hits 122 degrees, our bodies can no longer dissipate heat and our core temperature rises. But another study cites a much lower limit of 89.6 degrees—the temperature at which humans start sweating.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a45806743/highest-temperature-a-human-can-survive/
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What temperature is fatal to the human body?

44 °C (111.2 °F) or more – Almost certainly death will occur; however, people have been known to survive up to 46.5 °C (115.7 °F). 43 °C (109.4 °F) – Normally death, or there may be serious brain damage, convulsions, and shock. Cardio-respiratory collapse will likely occur. 42 °C (107.6 °F) – Subject may turn red.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: July 10, 2024, 09:28:32 pm »

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: July 10, 2024, 12:12:49 am »

Like I was saying (2:00-2:20):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UZZMakqlKQ
Posted by: EndOfTheNationState?
« on: June 22, 2024, 10:06:31 pm »

Futurist alumnus forecasts a nomadic human future
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Singapore-based futurist Parag Khanna (SFS’99, G’05) uses the lens of geopolitics to research the forces driving mass migration. In his new book, MOVE: The Forces Uprooting Us, he forecasts that despite two years of COVID-19 lockdown, the future of human civilization will be defined by mobility.

What drives voluntary and involuntary mobility around the world, Khanna explains, are forces like political instability, imbalances in labor markets, and climate change. His research analyzes trends in civil wars and conflicts, failing economies, technological disruption from AI and automation, and climate change displacement, and then synthesizes takeaways.

“These deep, fundamental drivers of human mobility long predate COVID and will long outlast COVID,” Khanna says. “The mass migrations of the past are not only going to continue, but also expand significantly, because all of these drivers are in overdrive.”

In MOVE, Khanna predicts that more Asian populations will move into Central Asia and Russia, and that both Asian and African populations will move into Europe. In the Americas,

he sees Canada taking leadership in accepting migrants, to the benefit of its cultural and economic future. And within the United States, he sees many people becoming climate migrants.

“There’s a large number of climate refugees in America, from forest fires, floods, and rising sea levels,” Khanna says. “America itself needs to think about climate adaptation and migration as a domestic issue, as well as a global one.”

MOVE also explores youth subcultures like #VanLife—in which young people voluntarily forego hyperconsumerism to live sustainably while staying digitally connected—as an important signal of change.

“One of the things I learned in this process of research is to take young people really seriously,” Khanna says. “We need to rebuild our economic, social, and political institutions to cater to their values, because they’re actually the right values to have for the kind of world we’re in today.”

Khanna says his interdisciplinary work was deeply influenced by his undergraduate experiences in the Walsh School of Foreign Service, especially in Professor Charles Pirtle’s Map of the Modern World class.

“Georgetown is one of just a handful of institutions that continue the tradition of teaching classical geopolitical theory. Very few people have the breadth of knowledge across disciplines to actually teach it. And Charles Pirtle was that man for an entire generation.”

Khanna remains close with Pirtle and connects his book to Pirtle’s class in particular.

“One of the most important things that he taught us is the complex layering of physical, political, and human geography,” Khanna says. “That’s really fundamentally what MOVE is about.”
https://today.advancement.georgetown.edu/georgetown-magazine/2022/futurist-alumnus-forecasts-a-nomadic-human-future/

Will climate change drive humans extinct or destroy civilization?
Almost certainly not—but unless we act quickly to stop warming the planet, there will be very severe consequences for many, many people.
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“Human extinction is not really the main worry,” says Schlosser. “There are going to be some really, really bad regional and local consequences. Consider island nations of the world—the type of warming that we're heading toward, with the expected sea level rise that could force them in many places to retreat or possibly abandon their homeland, is an existential threat to them.”

For many people, asking if climate change is the “end of the world” may be a way of asking if it’s the end of their world—if they should be taking steps to cope with widespread breakdowns in infrastructure or public services or the food supply. “And it depends upon where you live,” says Schlosser.
“I would give a very different answer if you were living in the Northeast United States as opposed to an island nation or the coastal plains of Bangladesh or in the middle of the Sahel.”

In part, this is due to unequal climate impacts: low-lying coastal areas facing two or three feet of sea level rise will suffer greatly whether they’re wealthy Miami or impoverished Kiribati. But there is also a basic injustice at work. Wealthier countries and regions have the most resources to prepare for, soften and recover from climate impacts. This means they’re more able to bounce back after a disaster strikes.

“The most vulnerable populations are the poorest populations,” says Schlosser. “If we do nothing about climate change, conditions are going to get worse for people who are poor and don't have the means to cope with it.”
[...]
https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/will-climate-change-drive-humans-extinct-or-destroy-civilization

Climate Change, the Erosion of State Sovereignty, and World Order
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CLIMATE CHANGE AND ITS ATTENDANT impacts on natural resources have traditionally been treated as a“soft security” issue—a challenge to be managed, but not necessarily a disruptive factor in international security. Until recently, climate change was primarily the domain of specialized negotiators, such as environmental ministers and individuals present at the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). However, this has begun to change. In response to a growing body of research demonstrating a significant relationship between a changing climate and state fragility, the foreign policy and security establishments of a growing number of nations have become increasingly concerned. A flurry of national security strategies, defense papers, and intelligence assessments have suggested that climate change is a“threat multiplier”...
https://climateandsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/werrell_femia_final-article_climate-change_state-sovereignty_world-order.pdf
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 19, 2024, 12:32:26 pm »

They could have become climate refugees and Operation Gaddafi activists simultaneously, but instead:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/diplomats-least-550-pilgrims-died-192230946.html

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Diplomats on Tuesday said at least 550 pilgrims died during the hajj, underscoring the gruelling nature of the pilgrimage which again unfolded in scorching temperatures this year.

At least 323 of those who died were Egyptians, most of them succumbing to heat-related illnesses
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At least 60 Jordanians also died, the diplomats said, up from an official tally of 41 given earlier on Tuesday by Amman.

The new deaths bring the total reported so far by multiple countries to 577, according to an AFP tally.
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The hajj is one of the five pillars of Islam and all Muslims with the means must complete it at least once.

The pilgrimage is increasingly affected by climate change, according to a Saudi study published last month that said temperatures in the area where rituals are performed were rising 0.4 degrees Celsius (0.72 degrees Fahrenheit) each decade.

Temperatures hit 51.8 degrees Celsius (125 Fahrenheit) at the Grand Mosque in Mecca on Monday
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 02, 2024, 03:58:20 pm »

Expect more of the same soon:

https://news.sky.com/story/families-forced-to-evacuate-panama-island-due-to-rising-sea-levels-13146859

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The Gunas of Gardi Sugdub, an island with a 200-year-old history and home to about 300 families, will be relocated to the mainland as part of a $12m (£9.4m) project to bring people to safer shores.

Steven Paton, director of the Smithsonian Institution's physical monitoring program in Panama, said the upcoming move "is a direct consequence of climate change through the increase in sea level".
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Some residents have decided to stay until it's no longer safe to do so, an official with Panama's ministry of housing said, adding no one is currently being forced to leave against their will.
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"The islands on average are only a half-meter above sea level, and as that level rises, sooner or later the Gunas are going to have to abandon all of the islands almost surely by the end of the century or earlier," Mr Paton said.

Why stop at mainland Panama, a tropical habitat which will heat up even more within the foreseeable future? Why not take the chance to relocate to a cooler habitat by making use of the already operational routes described here?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/drowning-kidnap-and-jaguars-travelling-the-deadly-darien-gap-migrant-route-to-th/msg22710/#msg22710
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: May 31, 2024, 05:17:48 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqBrL8BokSk

Woke comments:

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If you're at the point where you have to burn through electricity to power AC all day just to survive indoors, you do have to start questioning whether that location is a viable long term habitat for humans.

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I honestly feel mostly sorry for all the animals being affected by this, who are completely innocent, and also all the people in the poor regions of the world who’s lifestyles have not caused this but yet they are the first who will die from either the heat itself, or from lack of water or food as a result, or the famine that this will cause.

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There's no way the whole Indian subcontinent and the other at-risk areas will be able to protect all the people that live there.

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let human wave russia

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it’s gonna get a lot more crowded here in New England

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I'll celebrate when the habitable area reaches Finland.

Any country with a significant number of global warming deniers is probably a good destination country for climate refugees.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: May 03, 2024, 07:25:25 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKREOfIybR4

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Seriously, DW?! "Communities like these will have to find ways to adapt in the years ahead"? They are suffering the consequences of production and consumption patterns of developed countries, and THEY HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO ADAPT?

So long as the way to adapt is by migrating to the countries which are to blame.

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Fingers crossed what happens when the international community, particularly the global south becomes more aware about how other countries remotely destroyed their living environment.

They eliminate the gene pool behind the Industrial Revolution?

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Migrate to Alaska

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Cool in New England

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Here in Scotland it's spring but still under 10'C.

You know where to go. Will you start moving soon?
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: May 03, 2024, 02:10:37 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzBGeRwIL3g

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Uninhabitable meaning that heat waves are becoming longer and hotter. The limitations to the human body will not allow it to cool once the wet bulb temperature reaches 98.6 which we are approaching now during the the most intense heat waves

With the temperature continually rising, we can only expect that this will become more prevalent throughout the year as well as widespread in area affected. So if you read between the lines, these areas will not be safe to go outside at certain points of the year for any length of time.

Soon after the insurance companies will bail, the economy will crash in that area.

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If we don't do anything we will be the frogs that get cooked slowly in that story.

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Time to move up north or down south

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Australia?

Australia is a good option, as it is one of the most to blame for global warming:



If Australia refuses to accept climate refugees, it should be militarily invaded.

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 04, 2024, 04:23:52 pm »

Now:



In the near future:





The solution:









Our message is spreading:











YES, THEY ARE!
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 29, 2023, 10:27:35 pm »

Our enemies find someone who understands the issue:

https://gatesofvienna.net/2023/12/forget-having-white-children-import-culture-enrichers-instead/

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Verena Brunschweiger is an Austrian author and progressive activist who advocates for white European women to remain childless, while the inflow of “migrants” from Africa and the Middle East should be increased, all in order to save the planet.

Below is a video in which Ms. Brunschweiger speaks her mind
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00:00         But isn’t it a bit naïve to believe that if some people in Europe forgo children,
00:04         that it should really make a difference. Shouldn’t we focus more
00:07         on the fact that young people in Austria should want to have children again?
00:11         Well, quite the opposite. I mean, I ask myself,
00:14         what do we do with the people whose lives we are destroying?
00:17         In the global south there are people from Africa and Asia
00:20         whose countries are no longer habitable because of the climate change we are producing here,

00:25         and then they come to us. Are we going to say to them,
00:29         “Oh no, we have so many Aryan people of our own that we don’t need you.”?
00:33         Or how do they imagine this? I find this incredibly racist and inconsiderate without equal.
00:39         and it is our damn duty to restrain ourselves in terms of reproduction.
00:43         It is our duty here in Western industrial nations
00:47         to accept and integrate people from the Trikont [leftist term for people from three continents].
00:51         We were responsible for making certain that those, whose countries,
00:54         their own countries, so to speak, can no longer inhabit them
00:57         for climatic reasons.
There it’s 48° [118°F] at home.
01:00         They no longer have any resources, nothing to drink, nothing to eat, nothing at all.
01:03         We have to help them as humans.

By no coincidence, Brunschweiger also looks Aesir:

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 03, 2023, 06:19:21 pm »

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/hottest-temperature-human-survive-much-130000930.html

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The Hottest Temperature A Human Can Survive Is Much Lower Than You Think
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Externally, the upper limit of the human body’s thermoneutral zone—the ambient temperature range in which the body can effectively maintain its temperature and equilibrium—likely falls somewhere between 104 and 122 degrees Fahrenheit, according to a 2021 study published in Physiology Report. Once the air temperature hits 122 degrees, our bodies can no longer dissipate heat and our core temperature rises. But another study cites a much lower limit of 89.6 degrees—the temperature at which humans start sweating. Beyond air temperature, humidity plays a big role too, and the higher the humidity the harder our bodies have to work to stay cool.

The limits for internal body temperature are even more restrictive. According to MedlinePlus, brain damage can occur once the body reaches an internal temperature of 107.6 degrees Fahrenheit.
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As climate change continues, especially without efforts by the world’s governments to counteract it, more people will become climate refugees.

Just this past summer:

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 05, 2023, 03:18:53 pm »

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/environmental-disasters-dark-tourism-modern-091032136.html

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Climate change and ensuing environmental disasters – marked by an increasing frequency and intensity of destructive floods, droughts, storms, wildfires and extreme temperatures – are now fueling what experts say are just the first waves of places abandoned due to climate displacement.

“We are going to see a movement – it’s already happening – where people are moving away from these areas that are most impacted by storms, by rising sea levels and floods, but also by constant fire, smoke inhalation – all of that,” says Gaia Vince, author of “Nomad Century: How Climate Migration Will Reshape Our World.”

She cites recent examples like wildfires in Hawaii, California and Australia, and floods in Bangladesh, as some of the latest triggers for population displacements.

“How many people are going to return to Lahaina in Hawaii after the fires there?” she questions. “I don’t think it’ll be 100% of the population that left. Some people will not be able to.”
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More than 20 million people are forced to leave their homes due to extreme weather events each year, according to the United Nations. Researchers have projected that by the end of the century, somewhere in the range of 3 to 6 billion people will be “left outside the ‘human climate niche’” that best supports life.

“It doesn’t mean that 3 to 6 billion people will have to move, but it does mean a lot of people have to move,” Vince notes. This, she says, will disproportionality affect communities of color and/or those who are already facing poverty.

“Typically, migration and displacement, these are processes that are rooted in inequality,” explains DeWaard, who adds that the climate crisis is only “going to exacerbate the existing inequalities of today.”

Every available pathway must be opened starting now.

Idiot comment of the day:

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Climate change is a false narrative based on pseudo-science.

While the claim there exists a greenhouse effect from CO2 which absorbs energy and warms the Earth is true, it is more precisely a half truth. We only get one part of the full story. Does that energy really warm the planet?

Blow on any finger. Now, lick it and blow on it again. Obviously, it feels cooler. Why? This is known as evaporative cooling. The energy from the force of the air increased the amount of evaporation. This process removes heat and thus the coolness we feel.

What happens when CO2 increases? It radiates more energy back towards Earth's surface. The surface of planet Earth is about 3/4 covered in water. We get increased evaporative cooling at the surface for the same reason our finger feels cooler. This is the part of the story we are never told.

See how subtle this half truth is. It turns what is actually two balanced (warming and cooling) effects into a perceived warming effect by leaving out the cooling effect entirely.

I sweat more during summer than during winter. According to this idiot, therefore summer feels as cold as winter.

All global warming deniers should have their homes given to climate refugees. They can have the climate refugees' old homes in the overheated countries in exchange. They should have no trouble living in those countries according to their own beliefs.
Posted by: AllTimeHigh
« on: September 22, 2023, 01:27:38 pm »

Westerners will continue to break this record constantly in the coming years with the climate-crisis western civilization has created and all the climate refugees that will come from it...

Concerns and challenges arise as US border crossings soar to all-time high
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THESE scenes of thousands of migrants gathered at the U.S.-Mexico border are reminiscent of the influx the country saw before U.S. President Joe Biden in May rolled out a new policy to deter illegal crossings.

Within a month, those tough measures such as deporting migrants and banning re-entry for five years drove the border-crossing rate down some 70%.

But four months on, and the early deterrent effect appears to be wearing off.

Record numbers of migrants, in the thousands, have crossed into the United States in recent days,

with many more still arriving by bus and cargo trains to Mexican border towns.

The surge could represent a looming political challenge for Biden heading into election season.

Enrique Lucero is Tijuana's director of migrant affairs.

"The big problem we see is that it could become a humanitarian crisis. Irregular border crossings are being encouraged, generating organised crime and human trafficking. These are the risks we see if decisions are not taken promptly."

Experts say the U.S. lacks the capacity to detain and process migrants at the border often making it impossible for the administration to carry out the harsh penalties it announced in May.

And as a result, some asylum seekers who cross illegally are being released into the U.S. with a future court date, rather than being deported.

Their success stories are repeated back to migrants still en route.

This Venezuelan migrant, still on the Mexican side of the border, says he heard rumours about people being let into the U.S. after turning themselves into border agents.

He's determined to continue on his journey.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection meanwhile has told Reuters that it was "safely and efficiently" processing migrants and would impose consequences, including deportation, on migrants without a legal basis to stay in the country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN4sNLkmsqg

Rightist comments:

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Illegals won’t be so lucky as Trump has asked for more border security and DeSantis is more than obliging as in Florida there’s a lot of them, Alligators. That will keep the vermin out.
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You can thank Joe Biden for this mess.
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Welcome to America my Brothers! MS13 gang! Viva el Slavador!
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But billions to Zelensky
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Water cannons!
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I'm to other states bus them