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Posted by: m94r
« on: January 30, 2023, 05:24:34 pm »

It's only recently that I've been dealing with the harsh reality of circumcision and how less jewish on average man would have been if it had never existed. So this could be the beginning of me recovering that lost part of my original nobility.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 30, 2023, 03:59:40 pm »

"At least when your a baby you don't remember the procedure and the pain"

This reasoning is ignoble. This is no different than saying: "If it's someone from the outgroup feeling the pain, I don't care." You have turned your earlier self into part of the outgroup.

The reason you today do not remember the pain is because you have lost that part of your Original Nobility. You should be trying to get it back (even if it includes the memory of the pain), instead of thinking it is fortunate that you have forgotten it. To care for someone is to share their pain. Show your earlier self that you still care about them!
Posted by: m94r
« on: January 30, 2023, 11:56:20 am »

I was circumcised as a baby, i know some muslim's who were circumcised at around 7 but as far as i know they weren't given a choice as to whether they wanted to or not, i guess different cultures have different traditions. At least when your a baby you don't remember the procedure and the pain, it must be very traumatic to go through as a 7 year old no matter what b.s your parents say to appease and delude you.

Nonetheless circumcision should have never been invented, i guess i have to thank the "prophet" abraham and his sick mind for coming up with this sh_t.
Posted by: SirGalahad
« on: January 29, 2023, 04:10:36 pm »

Islamic circumcision seems more ethical to me, because as far as I know, it’s not really a tradition to circumcise the child immediately after birth, like it is for westerners. The child could be circumcised at 7, or even at puberty. As long as the child is given some semblance of autonomy in the decision, I don’t find it necessarily unethical, even though I’d argue less emphasis should be placed on the practice, since it originated from Judaism

But I definitely agree that circumcising someone who isn’t even old enough to at least verbally consent to it, should be a crime. It almost happened to me when I was born, but the doctor my mom trusted wasn’t there
Posted by: m94r
« on: January 29, 2023, 03:17:07 pm »

Islam has been greatly corrupted due to the adoption of the evil Judaic practice of circumcision. Circumcision adds a 'layer of Judea' that cannot be purified/overcome because it is a physical mutilation.

I wish I wasn't circumcised, it has probably destroyed a lot of my original childhood sensitivity. Circumcision needs to be banned everywhere, any parents caught trying to circumcise their child should be executed.
Posted by: SirGalahad
« on: June 24, 2022, 09:58:49 pm »

@90sRetroFan That's actually a beautiful recount. And it's in stark contrast to how children are typically treated during most church services in mainstream Judeo-Christian sects. I can't comment on any stereotypes of Islamic services since I was not raised Muslim and did not grow up in a predominantly Muslim country, but I DO know that it's basically a stereotype at this point, for Christian church services to be practically unbearable for children, and many of them have to be forced to go. If you aren't inspiring the children, who naturally love to dream and are far more idealistic and romantically inclined than adults, then something's wrong with how you conduct things. May God be pleased with Mohammed
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 24, 2022, 02:38:17 pm »

Imagine a Masjid where the Imam pauses during Salah and the entire congregation waits so a toddler can finish his game. Imagine a Masjid where an Imam leads Salah while he holds a child in his arms. Imagine a Masjid where the cry of a baby changes the Imam’s intention and shortens the prayer for the entire congregation.

This was the Masjid of the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him.
The Messenger of Allah came out to us for one of the two later prayers [Thuhr Asr], carrying Hasan or Hussein. The Prophet then came to the front and put him down, said Takbir for the prayer and commenced praying. During the prayer, he performed a very long prostration, so I raised my head and there was the child, on the back of the Messenger of Allah, who was in prostration. I then returned to my prostration. When the Messenger of Allah had offered the prayer, the people said: “O Messenger of Allah! In the middle of your prayer, you performed prostration and lengthened it so much that we thought either something had happened or that you were receiving revelation!” He said: “Neither was the case. Actually, my grandson made me his mount, and I did not want to hurry him until he had satisfied his wish" (Reported by Nasaa'i, Ibn Asaakir, and Haakim).

The Messenger of Allah would pray holding Umaamah bint Zaynab bint Rasoolillaah.   He would put her down when he prostrated, and then pick her up again when he stood up (Reported by Bukhari and Muslim)

The Prophet said: “When I stand for prayer, I intend to prolong it, but on hearing the cries of a child, I cut it short, as I dislike to trouble the child's mother" (Reported by Bukhari).

These scenarios illustrate how natural it was for babies, toddlers, and children to be part of the Prophet’s Masjid. They show us that the Prophet understood the nature of children and cared for their needs and comfort in the mosque.

Do we witness these scenarios in our Masjids today? We see a child grabbed and told to “sit down and be quiet!” because he was running between the rows. Or we hear “sister, can you please go outside” because her baby is crying. Or we read signs that say “No children in Masjid area”.
Children running in the hallway or playing basketball in the parking lot are not signs of a rowdy Masjid or misbehaving children.
This is the nature that Allah created in children - they overflow with energy and enthusiasm
Here is an example of how the Prophet dealt with Anas bin Malik, who served him as a boy:

    The Prophet sent Anas on an errand and Anas reported that “I went until I came upon children playing in the street. Then the Messenger of Allah arrived and he caught me by the back of my neck from behind. As I looked at him, I found him smiling, and he said, “Unays (Anas’s nickname), did you go where I ordered you to go?” I said, “O Messenger of Allah, yes, I am going.” Anas said further, “I served him for nine years, but I do not know that he ever said to me about anything I did, ‘why I did that, or about anything I had neglected, why I had not done that” (Reported by Muslim).

The Prophet did not scold Anas for forgetting his errand or for anything else in nine years.
Allah does not punish children for their misbehavior but Allah does hold us accountable for how we treat children.
Posted by: guest63
« on: June 24, 2022, 01:38:26 pm »

This is a little off-topic, but how should prayer be done in Mohammedanism?

One of my friends who is a Muslim mixes simple Christian prayers with a few Mohammedan prayers, such as saying the Takbir in the beginning and reciting Surah al-Fatihah before requesting anything from Allah SWT. He does ablution when necessary but not always.
Posted by: christianbethel
« on: June 03, 2022, 10:46:12 am »

I also heard that Ali said that the Uthmanic codex was correct with 'minor errors'. Only a Sunni/Judeo-Islamist would believe such lies.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 02, 2022, 10:26:35 pm »

The Muslim you asked is illiterate. Mohammed himself stated that he was merely re-teaching what earlier true prophets (e.g. Jesus) had taught before but which was distorted after their deaths. Therefore, the followers of the pre-distortion teachings of earlier true prophets were also Muslims. Mohammedans refer to those who became Muslims because of Mohammed's influence.

Posted by: christianbethel
« on: June 02, 2022, 09:31:20 pm »

Ah. Muslims, then Mumins, then Musins.

I also asked a Muslim about the term 'Muhammadanism' and she said it was forbidden in Islam because it promotes idolatry. Thoughts?
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 02, 2022, 01:13:59 pm »

Not all Muslims are believers (Mumins).

the following verse makes a distinction between a Muslim and a believer:[citation needed]

(Al-Hujurat 49:14) The Arabs of the desert say, "We believe." (tu/minoo) Say thou: Ye believe not; but rather say, "We profess Islam;" (aslamna) for the faith (al-imanu) hath not yet found its way into your hearts.
Posted by: christianbethel
« on: June 02, 2022, 09:57:38 am »

How so? Millions of Muslims still reproduce.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 01, 2022, 08:58:45 pm »

No, the ideology of antinatalism is the breeze.
Posted by: christianbethel
« on: June 01, 2022, 08:40:48 pm »

The believers know there will be a deadly breeze, yet they still reproduce? Perhaps they misinterpet the ayah which states this. I've seen several ayat in the second and third surahs which condemn existence in the material universe and praise life in the Hereafter, but haven't seen any explicit rejection of natalism. Why is this?