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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 21, 2023, 03:18:10 pm »

Increasing attention is being given to the Doctrine of Discovery:

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/19/us-white-supremacy-roots-catholic-doctrine-book

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Flashback: The "Doctrine of Discovery" was issued on May 4, 1493, and stated that any land not inhabited by Christians was available to be "discovered," claimed, and exploited by Christian rulers.
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It became the basis of all European claims in the Americas and the foundation for U.S. westward expansion, which would be cited in federal court cases against Indigenous people in the 19th century.
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The idea that God ordained the Americas as a "promised land" for European Christians has had devastating effects for more than 500 years, Jones told Axios.
The book attempts to show how the U.S. story began with the doctrine and how that legacy led to violence against Black Americans centuries later.
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The concept would give cover for removing and killing Indigenous people, enslaving Africans, and later, taking territory from Mexico and mistreating people already living there, he said.
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To illustrate his points, Jones focused on three regions in the U.S.: Minnesota, Mississippi, and Tulsa, Oklahoma.

    In each case, Jones shows how an episode of violence against Indigenous people — often forgotten in history — preceded well-known acts of violence against Black Americans.

    The 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre and the lynching of Emmett Till in 1955 occurred around areas where Indigenous people previously faced violence, illustrating the lasting legacy of white supremacy, Jones writes.

This last point is important in illustrating how all "non-whites" are one folk:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/ethnotribalism-the-computer-simulation/

Previous coverage:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg12408/#msg12408

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg14893/?topicseen#msg14893

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg15179/?topicseen#msg15179
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: December 21, 2023, 12:17:09 am »

Hinton Rowan Helper

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In 1855 Helper wrote the book The Land of Gold. Reality versus Fiction, in which he said "that slave labor was less profitable than free labor and in Baltimore, where the book was to be published, he had run into a Maryland statute, dating from 1831, which made it a felony with a penalty of not less than ten years in jail knowingly to write or print anything 'having a tendency to excite discontent ... amongst the people of color'.... Compelled to excise these comments, Hinton Helper — an irascible man — resolved to speak out his whole mind in a book devoted entirely to this subject."[4] The book was The Impending Crisis of the South: How to Meet It. Expressing Helper's deep opposition to slavery and the condition of Southern culture and the South's lack of economic progress, it was one of the most effective criticisms of the South. Helper argued that the South's growth, prosperity, and cultural development were being held back by slavery. He deployed statistics from the census to show that land values, literacy levels, and manufacturing rates were considerably lower in the South than in the North. He warned of the devastation caused by slavery through deforestation. He proposed that slaveholders be taxed to colonize all free blacks in Africa or Latin America.[5]

The success of The Impending Crisis of the South made Helper famous overnight. It also heightened the political crisis by raising fears among Southerners that poor landless Southern whites might turn against slavery if they saw that it did not benefit them.[6] The fear of class divisions within the white community was enough to lead many Southerners who had previously been opponents of secession to embrace it after the election of Abraham Lincoln.

After the war, Helper appeared as a post-war Fire Eater, urging the wholesale expulsion of former slaves. He believed the United States should be exclusively white (also excluding Chinese, Native Americans, and other non-white groups). "A. B. Burdick, the publisher of The Impending Crisis, testified that Helper ... avoided all contacts with Negroes, refusing even to patronize hotels or restaurants which employed Negroes in menial capacities. Another man who knew Helper before the war recalled that 'he has always been inflexibly opposed to all the relations and conditions which have kept the two races close together; and this ... was one of the principal grounds of his opposition to slavery."[7] Nevertheless, Southern enemies of Reconstruction were unwilling to forgive his previous opposition to slavery, and he remained a marginal and increasingly unstable character in postwar America.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinton_Rowan_Helper
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 07, 2023, 11:03:38 pm »

Israelis are just like any other Western colonialists:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/yes-israel-colonialist-state-does-154000577.html

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Beginning in the fifteenth century, European states began establishing colonies overseas.
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Advocates of Zionism can be found in the early nineteenth century, if not before, but the Zionist movement originated in the late nineteenth century. In the 1880s, Britain’s Baron Edmund James de Rothschild established Jewish colonies in what was then referred to as “the Holy Land.” Rothschild’s efforts were organized by the Jewish Colonization Society and were championed by the Lovers of Zion
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In 1895, Viennese journalist Theodor Herzl turned a long appeal to the Rothschild family into a book, The Jewish State. In advocating for a state, Herzl also sought the support and advice of Cecil Rhodes, who had established British colonies in southern Africa (Rhodesia was the colonial state that preceded Zimbabwe). Herzl justified his efforts on the standard grounds of European imperialism. A Jewish state, he argued, would be “an outpost of civilization against barbarism.”

In 1917, Chaim Weizmann successfully lobbied the British to adopt the Balfour Declaration, which committed the British, who were to take over the Holy Land from the Ottomans and establish British Palestine, to sponsor there a “national home for the Jewish people.” The British didn’t commit themselves to creating a Jewish state, but Weizmann and other leading Zionists had exactly that in mind: a Jewish state that would become part of the British Commonwealth along with South Africa, Canada, and Australia. The leading Zionists of the early and mid-twentieth century sought to create settler-colonies within Palestine that would become the basis of a Jewish state.
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In 1947, on the eve of the United Nations decision to partition the country, Jews still made up only 32 percent of the population. In the partition, which the Arabs rejected, Jews got 55 percent of the land, including the most economically viable areas, and the Arabs only 40 percent
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the end result of which was that the state of Israel, from which about 700,000 Arabs had been expelled during the 1947 and 1948 wars, now took up 78 percent of British Palestine.
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The Revisionist Party, led by Vladimir Jabotinsky, got its name from its opposition to Britain’s carving out Jordan (originally Transjordan) as a separate state from Palestine. The Revisionists wanted Palestine and Jordan as a single Jewish state. They made no bones about Zionism’s colonial aims. Jabotinsky, who was a protégé of Herzl, compared the Arabs to America’s Indians and Mexico’s Aztecs. He didn’t see them as junior associates in a Jewish state but as intransigent and unassimilable foes of a Jewish state who would have to be defeated and subjugated by armed force. “Zionist colonization,” Jabotinsky wrote in 1923, “must either be terminated or carried out in defiance of the will of the native population.”
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They formed the bulk of the settlers in the West Bank, where many of them did see themselves as “pioneers” staking out a Greater Israel. They have overwhelmingly supported the political descendants of Revisionist Zionism—the Likud and the national religious parties that make up the Israeli right. They provided these parties with their current majorities in the Knesset.
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: November 29, 2023, 08:00:04 pm »

Fatal Flaw of Western Liberalism

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The violence of decolonization reaffirmed the relationship between freedom and race, and the challenge to white freedom, in the decades after World War II. All too often imperial authorities responded to colonial movements for liberation by racially informed repression, in effect reinforcing the reality that to be nonwhite was to be unfree.54 More generally, the resistance to decolonization, even if it involved reforms and more liberal visions of colonial life, fundamentally rested upon the conviction that white elites had not only a monopoly on freedom but the right to rule nonwhite populations around the world. Decolonization ultimately destroyed that conviction, at least in theory, and so upended traditional parallels between whiteness and freedom

Source :

White Freedom The Racial History of an Idea Tyler Edward Stovall 2021 Princeton University Press page 277
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 18, 2023, 06:38:50 pm »

Our enemies explain that progressivism is the root of Islamophobia (I agree, which is why I, a regressive, am not Islamophobic):

https://www.eurocanadians.ca/2023/11/islam-is-often-a-predictor-of-stagnation-and-intellectual-barrenness

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Recent research asserts that by impeding commerce and self-governing institutions Islam obstructed the demand for education and as such, this led to a negative relationship between Islamic rule and human capital levels
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In explaining these findings the authors conclude that Islamic regions are worse off because Christians and colonial administrators were less likely to reside in such places. But this is an indirect admission that Christians and colonial administrators would have provided better governance than Islamic leaders since their absence in Islamic spaces lowered performance. The paucity of colonial intervention in Islamic spaces is explained by the conservatism and aggression of Islam. Islamic territories were likely to resist change and could be quite uncharitable to Europeans, so avoiding these areas was in their best interest.

Islam is lauded by politically correct pundits as a progressive religion, but as the evidence indicates it is often a predictor of stagnation and intellectual barrenness. Western countries should be wary of those who obscure the anti-progressive elements of Islam

I do not obscure the anti-progressive elements of Islam; I defend them! Why does everything have to be about maximizing "performance" and "human capital"? What is so bad about simple living? Instead of calling it "stagnation", why not call it satisfaction? Instead of calling it "barrenness", why not call it contentment?
Posted by: rp
« on: November 03, 2023, 08:13:23 pm »

This is why #LandBack > Land "Acknowledgments"
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 03, 2023, 07:10:03 pm »

Enemy article:

https://www.amren.com/features/2023/11/did-we-steal-america-from-the-indians/

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Scholarship on European colonialism in the New World is now, of course, completely dominated by the Left. Prof. Fynn-Paul writes that such scholarship is animated by a worldview that “is so rabidly anti-white, anti-male, and anti-European that it challenges the idea of human progress itself.”

Yes.

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He correctly attributes a kind of “Western exceptionalism” to leftist historians, in that they assume that “Western colonies and colonists were worse than others, that Western ideologies were more cruel than others, and that Western economies were more brutal than others.”

It is no assumption that (post-Renaissance) Western imperialism is worse, for it is unique in choosing colonialism rather than integrationism, but only for those whom it classified as "non-white".

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In fact, by the time Europeans began enslaving blacks in the 16th century, Muslims had already enslaved millions over the course of nearly a thousand years.

Yes, but Muslims:

1) enslaved irrespective of ethnic background, unlike "white" enslavers who only enslaved "non-whites";
2) offered all slaves the individual choice to convert to Islam as a condition for citizenship, unlike "white" enslavers wh never offered their slaves any equivalent choice.

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And they were particularly brutal about it: Unlike Europeans, the Arabs routinely castrated their male slaves.
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Whereas "white" enslavers used male slaves to breed the next generation of slaves. Which is the sustainable evil? (And again, slaves under Islam were given the option of conversion as an alternative to castration. Is this brutal?)

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Yet, for the Left, Western slavery was exceptionally and uniquely bad.

It was, for the reasons just provided above.

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They also apparently think that it is the only slavery anybody needs to hear about.

If so, why do we have the following topic?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/the-difference-between-islamic-and-europe-on-slave-treatment/

Continuing:

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It has now become de rigueur for academics writing about Indians and settlers to employ the language of “stolen land” and “genocide,” even in otherwise objective histories.

Because it is the truth!

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The attitude of leftist historians toward the Indians, who they claim they are defending, is also predictably condescending. This seems always to be the case with whomever the Left takes up as a cause célèbre. Essentially, the Left portrays Indians as peaceful, happy-go-lucky flower children, living in harmony with nature and sharing all things.

Hardly. We are perfectly aware that many Amerindians were hunters, and have no problem saying this makes them racially inferior to those (Amerindian or otherwise) who were not. But did life for New World animals get better or worse after Western colonization? Would Amerindians have independently come up with the idea of breeding animals in factory conditions? Would they have used them for experimentation? Would they have polluted their habitats with modern chemicals? I think we all know the answers.

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Indians were extraordinarily violent and ethnocentric people, who were busy “genociding” each other long before Europeans allegedly tried it on them. They were also not exactly responsible stewards of the environment; they overkilled North American megafauna to the point of extinction long before Europeans arrived.

Which is worse: being hunted to extinction or being turned into a sustainable commodity?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/

Continuing:

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Prof. Fynn-Paul correctly notes that Europe invented “the modern discourse on human rights.”

That is why Western civilization is more evil:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/rights-vs-duties/msg23228/#msg23228

Continuing:

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He also correctly states that “We simply do not find such a plethora of humanitarian sentiment in most traditional cultures, where individual human rights are normally subsumed under the rights of powerful men, institutions, and family honor.”

This gave the latter a duty to stand up for individuals under their charge who were wronged. Whereas now, anyone can agree that individuals have "rights" but simultaneously consider it none of one' own concern when they are wronged (since one has the "right" oneself to not be bothered by third-party disputes).

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Let us consider what the Indians were really like. The most advanced Indian civilizations in the New World were those in Mexico and Central America. However, leftist historians have made absurd claims on behalf of these people, asserting, for example, that they were “more advanced” than European civilization of the same period. The reality is that the civilizations of the Aztecs and the Incas were roughly analogous in their level of achievement to the Mesopotamian cultures of around 3,000 BC.

Would we have any of the following problems:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/

in Aztec, Incan or Mesopotamian civilizations?

(See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/new-world-raft-design-and-colonialist-response/msg4833/#msg4833

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/new-world-raft-design-and-colonialist-response/msg18682/#msg18682

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/new-world-raft-design-and-colonialist-response/msg20492/#msg20492 )

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The Aztecs had invented the wheel, but by the time of the Spanish conquest used it only for children’s toys.

How much roadkill is caused by wheeled children's toys? For comparison:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/msg38/?topicseen#msg38

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The number of animals killed in the United States has been estimated at a million per day.[10][11]
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the following animals are being killed by motor vehicles in the United States annually: 41 million squirrels, 26 million cats, 22 million rats, 19 million opossums, 15 million raccoons, 6 million dogs, and 350,000 deer.[15]
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two insects killed on the license-plate area for every 10 kilometres (6.2 mi) driven. This implies about 1.6 trillion insect deaths by cars per year in the Netherlands, and about 32.5 trillion deaths in the United States if the figures are extrapolated there.[19]

Divide the latter number by the former, and that is the factor by which Westerners are inferior to Aztecs on this one count (wheel usage) alone.

Back to enemy article:

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Slavery was widely practiced by Indian tribes. During the 17th century, records indicate that only a few hundred Indians were taken as slaves from New England. Within the same period, Indians enslaved tens of thousands of other Indians.

Yes, but the point is that colonial-era "whites" enslaved "non-whites" while not enslaving "whites". This double-standard is what we despise. No such double-standard existed among Amerindians, as you yourself admit. Amerindians merely did not consider slavery intolerable; "whites" considered it intolerable (for their ingroup) but simultaneously practiced it (to their outgroup).

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The Aztecs butchered more than 20,000 human beings a year, cutting their still-beating hearts out of their bodies in the belief that this was what kept the sun shining. Apparently, this practice was sanctioned by “Aztec philosophy.”

Is this not less despicable than the present-day Western scientists who use non-humans for experimentation in order to benefit humans?

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Cannibalism is well documented among some Indian tribes.

Are not cannibals less despicable than anti-cannibalistic meat-eaters? The former accept meat-eating; the latter consider it unacceptable (for their ingroup) but simultaneously practice it (to their outgroup).

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The Natchez Indians of Mississippi practiced child sacrifice.

Westerners practice a far slower and more torturous form of child sacrifice known as compulsory schooling:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/canada-residential-schools/

Continuing:

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European relations with the Indians tended to alternate between periods of peace and periods of war. And, yes, there were massacres — by both sides against the other.

Which side is stealing the land of the other? (Hint: substitute "European" with "Israeli" and "Indian" with "Palestinian".)

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However, Europeans frequently allied themselves with one Indian tribe against another.

Yes, we already know "whites" like to use "non-whites" as cannon fodder.

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Prof. Fynn-Paul asks, “why does the historical record provide so many examples of Indians voluntarily wandering into English and Dutch camps, and even climbing on board ships,” if today’s leftists are correct about the rapacity with which Europeans went about trying to murder and enslave them?

Experience has already made it clear that staying away from "whites"  does not prevent "whites" from murdering or enslaving them, so why not try the opposite approach?

Now let's turn the question around: if today's rightists are correct about Amerindian savagery, then why did so many English/Dutch/etc. voluntarily wander into the New World?

The really important question is: which side crossed the Atlantic first?

"Whites" started it all; Amerindians were merely reacting.

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Did we steal the Indians’ land? Yes and no. First, a plausible case can be made that the forcible relocation of the Indians during the Trail of Tears was theft of land. We had originally agreed that the land was theirs and that we would respect their right to it. But when we discovered that the land was much more valuable than we had thought, Indian property rights suddenly meant little — in fact, nothing. But this was the exception and not the rule.

So do you plan on giving the land back?

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In the vast majority of cases, land settled by Europeans was purchased from Indians, who willingly sold it.

After you had already made examples of what happens to those who do not willingly sell?

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about 90 percent of the land remained in Indian hands for the first 300 years after Europeans arrived in the New World. Vast swaths of North America remained completely unoccupied by white people.

About 90% of the land remained in Palestinian hands for the first 30 years after Zionist settlers arrived in Palestine. Vast swaths of Palestine remained completely unoccupied by Jewish people.

What happened next (in both cases!)?

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the “stolen land” claim rests on the assumption that Indians displaced from their land by Europeans had occupied that land in perpetuity. The truth is that the Indians displaced by Europeans had generally slaughtered the previous group of Indians — who had, in turn, had slaughtered an earlier group.

The burden is on you to provide hard evidence for the claim in bold. Otherwise, that is the actual assumption.

But even if evidence were to turn up in future, that does not exonerate the colonial-era Western colonizers, who did not know about it at the time and certainly did not justify own their actions based on such an argument, but rather on Manifest Destiny which was not intended to be an ethical argument at all. For that matter, the same Western colonial empires had no problem with stealing other lands whose existing inhabitants had definitely never displaced others:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/has-australia-reconciled-with-its-colonial-past/

The bottom line is that Western colonizers were never concerned with ethics, but only with the Doctrine of Discovery:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg14893/#msg14893

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg15179/#msg15179

Continuing:

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This is why groveling “acknowledgements” such as the one made by the Perimeter Institute are so silly.

Is it silly to acknowledge the unethicality of the Doctrine of Discovery, or of Manifest Destiny?

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Since we are not going to give the land back, what purpose is served by cringey “land acknowledgements,” aside from letting affluent white liberals signal their virtue?

Then why not give the land back?

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Indians have now been very handsomely compensated for the wrong done to them. Today, the US government spends more than $20 billion a year on the descendants of Indians wronged by our ancestors, which works out to about $20,000 per Indian per year. At this point, we owe them nothing.

At best* the money can be considered compensation for the time you have spent violently possessing the land. You still need to give back the land itself.

(* I myself do not agree with this. I advocate that the colonized should take the Western colonial empires' original lands as compensation. Above all I despise the principle that the colonizers, not the colonized, are the ones who get to decide what the compensation should be.)

Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: October 24, 2023, 08:20:54 am »

John W. Burgess, the American Nordicist

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John William Burgess (August 26, 1844 – January 13, 1931) was an American political scientist. He spent most of his career at Columbia University where he created the first graduate school in Political Science. He has been described as "the most influential political scientist of the period"[1] and "the father of American political science."[2] He is the academic advisor of Charles Edward Merriam.

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Burgess was a strong influence on the Dunning School of Reconstruction. Burgess "agreed with the scholarly consensus that blacks were inferior",[5] and wrote that "black skin means membership in a race of men which has never of itself succeeded in subjecting passion to reason, has never, therefore, created any civilization of any kind."[6]

In a 1904, Burgess argued for close British, American and German relations, justifying it in part on the basis of "ethnic affinity". He also argued that Swedes, Danes, Norwegians and the Dutch were "probably the purest Teutonic stock, and the best stock, in Europe". He added that it was a "sober truth that the Teutonic genius and the Teutonic conscience are the two greatest forces in modern civilization and culture."[7]

Burgess defended how Southern planters treated slaves, arguing that most planters treated them well and that most slaves were content with slavery.[2] Burgess criticized the 1852 novel Uncle Tom's Cabin, arguing that it was "a gross exaggeration" of how most slaves were treated.[2]

Source :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Burgess_(political_scientist)

More information about John W. Burgess

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John W. Burgess. Writing in the Political Science Quarterly in 1895, Burgess denounced the ignorance and wickedness of those supporting open immigration to the United States. They sought, he maintained in newly fashionable racial terminology, "to pollute [the United States] = with non-Aryan elements."􀂂 This kind of meanness far out􀂆shouted Boas's careful edging away from racial chauvinism.

Source :

The History of White People by Nell Irvin Painter page 167
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: October 23, 2023, 10:56:15 pm »

Nathaniel Shaler

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Shaler became a fixture at Harvard during the 1870s, often referring to Agassiz as "my master." As a professor of geology, paleontology, and scientific truth in general, Shaler taught a generation of men destined to lead the United States, including Theodore Roosevelt. Through his commentary on American life, Shaler's Anglo-Saxon chauvinism provided a bulwark to the New England-based movement against immigrants from southern and eastern Europe. Today, after the mid-twentieth century reshuffling of race into a black/white binary, Shaler appears in history as a proponent of black inferiority. But in the 1880s and 1890s, he also-and mainly-helped elevate the figure of the white male Kentuckian into an emblem of America and took aim at southern and eastern European immigrants as menaces to American racial integrity.

Source :

The History of White People by Nell Irvin Painter page 137

About Nathaniel Shaler :

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Nathaniel Southgate Shaler (February 20, 1841 – April 10, 1906)[1] was an American paleontologist and geologist who wrote extensively on the theological and scientific implications of the theory of evolution, whose work is now considered scientific racism.[2]

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Shaler was an apologist for slavery and an outspoken believer in the superiority of the Anglo-Saxon race. In his later career, Shaler continued to support Agassiz's polygenism, a theory of human origins that was often used to support racial discrimination, falling under the category of Scientific racism.[10] In his 1884 article, "The Negro Problem", published in the Atlantic Monthly, Shaler claimed that black people freed from slavery were "like children lost in the wood, needing the old protection of the strong mastering hand," that they became increasingly dominated by their "animal nature" as they grew from children into adults, and American slavery had been "infinitely the mildest and most decent system of slavery that ever existed."[11]

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...In Nature and Man in America, Shaler justifies the superiority of the Aryan race based on their development within European topography, "marvelously suited to be the cradles of people", erroneously attributing their origin to the Scandinavian provinces, "a field which seems to have been the seat of the strongest men in the world for thousands of years."

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...Shaler argues that North America has "peculiar advantages” for American people (of Aryan descent) because the climate and topography of the land is ideal for the institution of slavery, which made it possible to cultivate this "new and rude land".[12]

Shaler believed that slavery was greatly beneficial for the United States, and even went so far as to suggest that slaves themselves benefitted from this institution, suggesting slavery "led to the rapid accumulation of wealth, and in this way brought the people the sooner into a condition in which they could control their own destiny." Expressing concern that the South will "release into barbarism", Shaler proposes that "the advance of the negro to a satisfactory grade in development still depends upon his remaining in close contact with the superior race."[12]

Source :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Shaler
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: October 14, 2023, 04:40:36 pm »

Posted by: Pyratani
« on: October 14, 2023, 04:52:52 am »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-66309637

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Colonisation was "the luckiest thing that happened" to Australia, the nation's second-longest serving Prime Minister John Howard has said.

His remarks were made in relation to a historic referendum due to take place this year on Indigenous recognition.

Speaking to the Australian Newspaper about the upcoming vote, Mr Howard described colonisation as "inevitable".

The mere fact that the states much nearer to Australia did not colonize it (despite the considerable economic advantages that they would similarly have gained from doing so) already refutes the claim of inevitability. Howard's mode of thinking is the barbarian one: if we don't do it, someone else will, so better we get the advantage than they do. The mode of thinking of the states near to Australia is the truly civilized one: we don't want someone else to start doing it, so we ourselves won't start doing it either.

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His government weakened First Nations land rights, suspended Australia's racial discrimination act, and refused to apologise to the Stolen Generations - tens of thousands of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children who were taken from their families by the government until the mid-1960s.

Tonight's results on our National Referendum in support of constitutional recognition of Australia's first peoples and the establishment of a Voice to Parliament for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples appears to have been defeated. It is a very sad day for Australia, as it appears to prove once again that it really is stuck in racism and colonialism.
Posted by: GermanColonialism
« on: September 14, 2023, 10:56:07 pm »

Faces of colonialism: the story of an imperialist propaganda | DW Documentary
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For a long time, photographer Robert Lohmeyer shaped the European view of Africa. During his travels, from 1907 to 1909, he photographed the German colonies -- in color, for the first time. In doing so, he laid the photographic foundations of racism.

The young photographer‘s trip to the German colonies of Togo, Cameroon, German Southwest Africa (now Namibia) and German East Africa (now Tanzania) was taken at the height of German imperialism. In his photographs of his travels, Robert Lohmeyer generated enthusiasm for these distant lands that Germany considered its possessions.
Making use of the most up-to-date photographic equipment at the time, Lohmeyer’s project was a meticulously planned PR campaign. Its goal? A celebration of colonialism and empire.
Lohmeyer’s resulting photography books were seen by huge numbers of people. Even today, the pictures are still in circulation. Lohmeyer's photos convey the image of a "peaceful savage" in a paradisiacal landscape. A colonial idyll. Because the images are in color, they evoke a feeling of authenticity and truthfulness. War, disease, hunger and death do not appear in Lohmeyer's pictures.
Based on unpublished written sources and photographs, the documentary follows Lohmeyer's journey. It tells the story of a chapter in the history of photography. But it also tells the story of a propaganda coup. Finally, the film explores Lohmeyer’s contribution to a new kind of racism -- in color - the effects of which can still be felt today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpZztZkscFA
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: August 16, 2023, 03:39:23 am »

Previously:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg13374/#msg13374

Another enemy article on Helper:

https://www.amren.com/features/2023/08/h-r-helper-the-lonely-abolitionist/

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A common mistake, both then and now, is to believe that 19th-century abolitionists were motivated by altruistic concerns for blacks. That may be largely true of anti-slavery sentiment in New England, but it was far less true in the rest of the country, where the motives for abolishing slavery typically had much more to do with bettering whites rather than freeing blacks.

This is correct.

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That was especially true of perhaps the most prominent Southern opponent of slavery, North Carolina’s Hinton Rowan Helper. Through a succession of books in the 1850s and 1860s, Helper gradually developed an evolving attitude toward slavery — a viewpoint that changed from acceptance to mild objection on sociological terms, to opposition for economic reasons, and then finally to outright antagonism towards the race that was held in thrall.
...
Crisis was addressed to and concerned chiefly with non-slaveholding whites, whom he saw as slavery’s principal victims, because it cheapened honest manual labor, confining it to the low-born.
...
it was in Argentina during the war that Helper first became intimately familiar with blacks. He developed an unreasoning loathing for them, and the fact that slavery brought Africans into contact with whites became an additional reason for him to oppose slavery.

One of his duties as consul was to approve applications for emigration to the United States. He routinely denied applications by blacks
...
Helper resented having been lumped in with South-hating abolitionists, so one of the goals of the book is to distinguish himself from that group by clearly stating his shockingly low opinion of the African race. He does so in the preface to the 479-page book:

    [T]he primary object of this work is to write the Negro out of America, and the secondary object is to write him (and manifold millions of other black and bi-colored caitiffs, little better than himself) out of existence. .

A few paragraphs later, he adds:

    These sluggish and apathetic enemies of true progress, these unimpressible bafflers and repellers of good intentions, have I frequently seen, in painfully loathsome and inauspicious numbers, on both sides of each of the three great Americas, North America, South America, and Central America. I speak of negroes, mulattoes, Indians, Chinese, and other obviously inferior races of mankind, whose colors are black or brown, but never white; and whose mental and moral characteristics are no less impure and revolting than their swarthy complexions.
...
The book consists of 11 chapters, some of whose titles are juxtaposed against each another, such as, “Black: A Thing Of Ugliness, Disease, and Death” versus “White: A Thing Of Life, Health, and Beauty” and “White Celebrities, and Black Nobodies.”
...
“Why is it that the negroes are so rapidly falling a prey to every manner of fatal affliction? Is it not because Nature is becoming impatient to close her account with them?”

The German replied that the observed frailty of blacks was “new proof that . . . the negro race is inferior to the white race.”

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/exposing-people-with-the-western-darwinian-worldview/

Continuing:

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Blacks should, according to Helper, ultimately be removed from “all the exterior parts of the earth.” And that applies not only to blacks but to “the mulattoes, the Indians, the Chinese . . . and all the other swarthy drones and dregs of mankind.”
...
Indians, he says, are a disappearing race, perishing from contact with their natural superiors, the whites. So let it be with blacks.
...
He quotes then-senator James Doolittle of Wisconsin, who, after noting that in the 1860s nearly a million blacks had perished in the South, said: “Verily, the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord”!

Like most of his contemporaries, Hinton Rowan Helper was a Christian. Born into a Lutheran family, he joined a Presbyterian congregation as a young man. Chapter VI of Nojoque hearkens back to that faith, citing “a score of Bible lessons in the arts of annihilating effete races.” These 20 lessons “will fully explain the Hebrew account of God’s method of ridding the world of those glaringly abortive and worthless races who, like the negroes, the Indians, and all the bi-colored fag-ends of mankind, have ceased to have a useful mission outside the superficies of this terrestrial ball.”

Each lesson is a single passage from the Old Testament.
Lesson 14 is Obadiah 1:15–16:

    The day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen;
    Yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down,
    And they shall be as though they had not been.

No, he was not a Christian. Christians follow Jesus. Helper follows the Old Testament:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/right-left-(judeo-)christian-divergence/

Continuing:

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After welcoming the misguided slaveholder back into the fold, he draws a line:

    With [the negro] we must come to no terms; with him we must have neither part nor lot. No, no; of the matchless crime of his blackness and slavery and stupidity and self-imposed despicableness, there can be no forgiveness this side the grave; I beg the reader’s pardon; I meant to have said this side the gully, this side the gutter, this side the Gulf of Mexico, or this side the Gulf of Guinea! As thoroughly and as speedily as possible must the negro be fossilized; and then, by the better students of natural history, shall his bleaching bones be held equally sacred with the wire-strung skeletons of his first-cousin congeners, the gorilla and the baboon!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/ethnonepotism/

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Finally, he offers recommendations to the world’s whites.

Whites have erred, he maintains, in failing to unify. Allowing their nations to be splintered into tiny principalities and fiefdoms has long hindered the advancement of the race toward its destiny of world dominion.
...
Hinton Rowan Helper ends with a triumphant flourish:

    From America quickly must the negro take his departure; from every part of the world must the Indian and the bi-colored hybrid soon hie away. No new golden age, general jubilee, no Eden-like millennium, no prolonged period of uninterrupted peace and joy, until in the total absence of all the swarthy and inferior races of men, the happy time thus contemplated shall be ushered in amidst the rapturous melody of a grand and universal chorus of the Whites!

Predating The Turner Diaries:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-we-lose/

by more than a century.....

Once again confirming my long-held assertion that those who want "white" ethnostates will not be satisfied by getting them. They already had "white" ethnostates prior to the colonial era, and the colonial era still happened!

Then, it's not racist to be anti-white, seeing if we not resist, we will got wiped out and the world will filled by people with Faustian oppressive behaviour
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: August 12, 2023, 06:03:33 pm »

Previously:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg13374/#msg13374

Another enemy article on Helper:

https://www.amren.com/features/2023/08/h-r-helper-the-lonely-abolitionist/

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A common mistake, both then and now, is to believe that 19th-century abolitionists were motivated by altruistic concerns for blacks. That may be largely true of anti-slavery sentiment in New England, but it was far less true in the rest of the country, where the motives for abolishing slavery typically had much more to do with bettering whites rather than freeing blacks.

This is correct.

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That was especially true of perhaps the most prominent Southern opponent of slavery, North Carolina’s Hinton Rowan Helper. Through a succession of books in the 1850s and 1860s, Helper gradually developed an evolving attitude toward slavery — a viewpoint that changed from acceptance to mild objection on sociological terms, to opposition for economic reasons, and then finally to outright antagonism towards the race that was held in thrall.
...
Crisis was addressed to and concerned chiefly with non-slaveholding whites, whom he saw as slavery’s principal victims, because it cheapened honest manual labor, confining it to the low-born.
...
it was in Argentina during the war that Helper first became intimately familiar with blacks. He developed an unreasoning loathing for them, and the fact that slavery brought Africans into contact with whites became an additional reason for him to oppose slavery.

One of his duties as consul was to approve applications for emigration to the United States. He routinely denied applications by blacks
...
Helper resented having been lumped in with South-hating abolitionists, so one of the goals of the book is to distinguish himself from that group by clearly stating his shockingly low opinion of the African race. He does so in the preface to the 479-page book:

    [T]he primary object of this work is to write the Negro out of America, and the secondary object is to write him (and manifold millions of other black and bi-colored caitiffs, little better than himself) out of existence. .

A few paragraphs later, he adds:

    These sluggish and apathetic enemies of true progress, these unimpressible bafflers and repellers of good intentions, have I frequently seen, in painfully loathsome and inauspicious numbers, on both sides of each of the three great Americas, North America, South America, and Central America. I speak of negroes, mulattoes, Indians, Chinese, and other obviously inferior races of mankind, whose colors are black or brown, but never white; and whose mental and moral characteristics are no less impure and revolting than their swarthy complexions.
...
The book consists of 11 chapters, some of whose titles are juxtaposed against each another, such as, “Black: A Thing Of Ugliness, Disease, and Death” versus “White: A Thing Of Life, Health, and Beauty” and “White Celebrities, and Black Nobodies.”
...
“Why is it that the negroes are so rapidly falling a prey to every manner of fatal affliction? Is it not because Nature is becoming impatient to close her account with them?”

The German replied that the observed frailty of blacks was “new proof that . . . the negro race is inferior to the white race.”

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/exposing-people-with-the-western-darwinian-worldview/

Continuing:

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Blacks should, according to Helper, ultimately be removed from “all the exterior parts of the earth.” And that applies not only to blacks but to “the mulattoes, the Indians, the Chinese . . . and all the other swarthy drones and dregs of mankind.”
...
Indians, he says, are a disappearing race, perishing from contact with their natural superiors, the whites. So let it be with blacks.
...
He quotes then-senator James Doolittle of Wisconsin, who, after noting that in the 1860s nearly a million blacks had perished in the South, said: “Verily, the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord”!

Like most of his contemporaries, Hinton Rowan Helper was a Christian. Born into a Lutheran family, he joined a Presbyterian congregation as a young man. Chapter VI of Nojoque hearkens back to that faith, citing “a score of Bible lessons in the arts of annihilating effete races.” These 20 lessons “will fully explain the Hebrew account of God’s method of ridding the world of those glaringly abortive and worthless races who, like the negroes, the Indians, and all the bi-colored fag-ends of mankind, have ceased to have a useful mission outside the superficies of this terrestrial ball.”

Each lesson is a single passage from the Old Testament.
Lesson 14 is Obadiah 1:15–16:

    The day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen;
    Yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down,
    And they shall be as though they had not been.

No, he was not a Christian. Christians follow Jesus. Helper follows the Old Testament:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/right-left-(judeo-)christian-divergence/

Continuing:

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After welcoming the misguided slaveholder back into the fold, he draws a line:

    With [the negro] we must come to no terms; with him we must have neither part nor lot. No, no; of the matchless crime of his blackness and slavery and stupidity and self-imposed despicableness, there can be no forgiveness this side the grave; I beg the reader’s pardon; I meant to have said this side the gully, this side the gutter, this side the Gulf of Mexico, or this side the Gulf of Guinea! As thoroughly and as speedily as possible must the negro be fossilized; and then, by the better students of natural history, shall his bleaching bones be held equally sacred with the wire-strung skeletons of his first-cousin congeners, the gorilla and the baboon!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/ethnonepotism/

Continuing:

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Finally, he offers recommendations to the world’s whites.

Whites have erred, he maintains, in failing to unify. Allowing their nations to be splintered into tiny principalities and fiefdoms has long hindered the advancement of the race toward its destiny of world dominion.
...
Hinton Rowan Helper ends with a triumphant flourish:

    From America quickly must the negro take his departure; from every part of the world must the Indian and the bi-colored hybrid soon hie away. No new golden age, general jubilee, no Eden-like millennium, no prolonged period of uninterrupted peace and joy, until in the total absence of all the swarthy and inferior races of men, the happy time thus contemplated shall be ushered in amidst the rapturous melody of a grand and universal chorus of the Whites!

Predating The Turner Diaries:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-we-lose/

by more than a century.....

Once again confirming my long-held assertion that those who want "white" ethnostates will not be satisfied by getting them. They already had "white" ethnostates prior to the colonial era, and the colonial era still happened!