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Posted by: guest78
« on: December 14, 2022, 06:54:27 pm »

LOL! So what about all those who still wear masks and those who quarantined themselves, yet have not received a vaccine, are they also represented here in these statistics? If not, what does that say about these westerners research and their statistics?

People who skipped their COVID vaccine are at higher risk of traffic accidents, according to a new study
If you passed on getting the COVID vaccine, you might be a lot more likely to get into a car crash.

Or at least those are the findings of a new study published this month in The American Journal of Medicine. During the summer of 2021, Canadian researchers examined the encrypted government-held records of more than 11 million adults, 16% of whom hadn’t received the COVID vaccine.

They found that the unvaccinated people were 72% more likely to be involved in a severe traffic crash—in which at least one person was transported to the hospital—than those who were vaccinated. That’s similar to the increased risk of car crashes for people with sleep apnea, though only about half that of people who abuse alcohol, researchers found.

The excess risk of car crash posed by unvaccinated drivers “exceeds the safety gains from modern automobile engineering advances and also imposes risks on other road users,” the authors wrote.

Of course, skipping a COVID vaccine does not mean that someone will get into a car crash. Instead, the authors theorize that people who resist public health recommendations might also “neglect basic road safety guidelines.”

Why would they ignore the rules of the road? Distrust of the government, a belief in freedom, misconceptions of daily risks, “faith in natural protection,” “antipathy toward regulation,” poverty, misinformation, a lack of resources, and personal beliefs are potential reasons proposed by the authors.

The findings are significant enough that primary care doctors should consider counseling unvaccinated patients on traffic safety—and insurance companies might base changes to insurance policies on vaccination data, the authors suggest.

First responders may also consider taking precautions to protect themselves from COVID when responding to traffic crashes, the authors added, as it’s more likely that a driver is unvaccinated than vaccinated. 

“The findings suggest that unvaccinated adults need to be careful indoors with other people and outside with surrounding traffic,” the authors concluded.
Entire article:

Needless to say, without Western civilization there would be no need for cars or vaccines at all in the first place, nor would there be a climate crisis either FFS!  ;D

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 12, 2022, 09:29:39 pm »

POTS, a debilitating heart condition, is linked to Covid and, to a lesser degree, vaccines
One of the earlier discoveries with long Covid was that it could be associated with POTS and this new research builds on that, said lead study author Dr. Alan Kwan, a cardiologist at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center.

POTS was also linked, to a lesser degree, to Covid vaccination with an mRNA vaccine, according to the new study.

So, will they draw the correct conclusion? Of course not:

“The main message here is that while we see a potential link between Covid-19 vaccination and POTS, preventing Covid-19 through vaccination is still the best way to reduce your risk of developing POTS,”

It’s unclear why the Covid vaccines would trigger the condition, Kwan said, but added that it could be related to the immune response generated by the shots.

Dr. Ofer Levy, the director of the Precision Vaccines Program at Boston Children’s Hospital, agreed.

He noted that Pfizer’s and Moderna’s vaccines have been linked to a small risk of myocarditis. That condition, he said, may also be related to the immune response generated by the shots.

Duh! Yet guess their reaction:

Researchers should further explore the immune response to shots, because “the better we understand how the adverse events work, the smarter we can become in designing better vaccines in the future,” Levy said.

Posted by: SirGalahad
« on: November 21, 2022, 11:16:19 pm »

I think that this thread and all its content should be officially moved to the Issues section or some place similar, since my initial question had been answered a long time ago, and it’s clear that this topic is common enough that the thread is getting a lot of use outside of it
Posted by: rp
« on: November 21, 2022, 09:44:58 am »

After thinking about what Zea_Mays has said, I now have a different opinion on vaccines. I support it as a temporary solution, but do not support the broader idea of using vaccinations to combat disease.
Posted by: ROFL
« on: October 29, 2022, 11:43:53 pm »

Pfizer to JACK UP Price of COVID Shot by 10,000%
Pfizer is planning on raising the cost of a single COVID vaccine dose by 100 times what it costs to manufacture the drug. Brett Erlich and John Iadarola discuss on The Young Turks.

Just curious, though.  Do you think it's free for Pfizer to produce this vaccine, put it in injectable form and transport it around the world?  They are a pharmaceutical company and a business that needs to make a profit.  I don't know the actual cost to make each dose, but $130 per dose to the public is a bit high.  If they could tone it down a bit, that would be nice.  Lol
Or, they could be a "non-profit" business....  :D
It’s called corporate bondage. WHO needs a booster. It’s a Corporate Pimp **** Principality holding corporate nations in bondage. Fear Factor! Free Speech! False authorities, powers, and dominions.
Who the fuk are you to tell me what to do for  my safety? Give that **** a rest homeboy.

Reminder, the mask wearing is for the safety of others, not one's own safety. That was the real point of wearing a mask....
Posted by: guest63
« on: October 21, 2022, 06:20:13 pm »

"Thailand has just authorised vaccination for 6-month to 4-year-old."

Anyone who vaccinates or otherwise forcefully subjects any children to any other medical torture needs to be beheaded ASAP.

As for these vaccines, don't take them at all! Just lockdown everyone until the diseases dies out, no exceptions! It's that simple!

90sRetroFan, do you think people who are vaccinated with COVID-19 or even vaccinated for that matter, should be allowed to reproduce? The COVID-19 vaccine really messes with one's immune system and has been known to increase diseases in people as well.

I am well-aware that you eventually want everyone to not reproduce at all.

I also apply this to the whole medical system as well. Don't even get doctor's checkups (including that of dentists or eye doctors) unless absolutely needed.

People should realize that if you have high dietary fiber and have a healthy vegan diet, you can easily prevent getting sick, since dietary fiber easily prevents appendicitis. Western diets have little to no dietary fiber in almost every meal, and they wonder why they have high rates of appendicitis.

Even tonsillitis can be easily prevented with sunshine and a vegan diet.
Posted by: Zhang Caizhi
« on: October 16, 2022, 02:27:34 am »

Thailand has just authorised vaccination for 6-month to 4-year-old.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: October 15, 2022, 11:46:46 pm »


The Nightmare COVID Variant That Beats Our Immunity Is Finally Here
A highly-mutated descendant of the Omicron variant of the SAR-CoV-2 virus that drove a record wave of infections starting around a year ago, XBB in many ways is the worst form of the virus so far. It’s more contagious than any previous variant or subvariant. It also evades the antibodies from monoclonal therapies, potentially rendering a whole category of drugs ineffective as COVID treatments.

“It is likely the most immune-evasive and poses problems for current monoclonal antibody-based treatments and prevention strategy,” Amesh Adalja, a public-health expert at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, told The Daily Beast in reference to XBB.

And Westerners will never learn:

The implication, of course, is that we’re eventually going to need another new booster in order to keep pace with the fast-evolving virus.

No, the implication is that you need to LOCKDOWN and stop all transmissions (and hence all further evolution) once and for all.

More and more health officials are coming around to the idea of an annual COVID booster. U.S. president Joe Biden even endorsed the idea in a statement last month. “As the virus continues to change, we will now be able to update our vaccines annually to target the dominant variant,” Biden said. “Just like your annual flu shot, you should get it sometime between Labor Day and Halloween.”

But one booster a year might not be enough if, as some epidemiologists fear, natural antibodies fade faster and the novel-coronavirus mutates at an accelerating rate. One concern, if it turns out we need twice-a-year new boosters, is whether industry can develop fresh jabs fast enough and health agencies can swiftly approve them.

It is mutating at an accelerating rate BECAUSE you are accelerating the rate of boosters!

The virus isn’t done with us. Which means we can’t be done with it. Get boosted. And be prepared to get boosted again in 2023.

And be prepared for this cycle of stupidity to continue until Westerners cease to be the ones in charge.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: September 06, 2022, 07:33:01 pm »

When the pharmaceutical industry scrambled to develop the first COVID vaccines back in 2020, it made sense that developers focused on the part of the virus that allows it to grab onto and infect our cells: the spike proteins.

The best vaccines contain a piece of the spike, or genetic data about the spike, either of which can spur an immune response. Not to be outdone, the virus has been mutating—with many of the changes occurring on that same spike.

But other parts of the virus are changing, too. Now, for the first time, a team of scientists has scrutinized these changes—and voiced a warning.

“With each major variant that has been identified, we are seeing mutations outside of [the] spike that we are trying to figure out,” Matthew Frieman, a University of Maryland School of Medicine immunologist and microbiologist and lead author of the new study, told The Daily Beast.

It’s possible the virus is accumulating non-spike mutations in an attempt to gain some advantage over our collective immunity as the COVID pandemic grinds toward its fourth year. These new mutations might not make the virus more infectious the way spike mutations do, but they could be associated with longer infections.

So have Western brains figured out what the problem is yet? Of course not, because Western brains are broken:

If this trend continues—and there’s no reason to believe it won’t—we might eventually need new antiviral drugs and new vaccine formulations that aren’t so specifically focused on the spike.


It's not that Western scientists, being scientists, don't understand what the virus is doing (they do, after initiating enough violence on innocent victims to do so):

“Viruses don’t do things by accident.” Instead, they try out small changes, over and over, until some combination of changes helps it survive and spread. The resulting variant or subvariant then outcompetes other forms of the pathogen until it becomes dominant—and the likely basis for the next set of mutations.

To understand the reason for, and effects of, the non-spike mutations, Frieman’s team cloned SARS-CoV-2 then started deleting the spike proteins and testing the resulting “deletion viruses” on mice, assessing how contagious the viruses were and how severe the infections were.
For now, it seems the spike and non-spike mutations are working together. The spike mutations make the virus steadily more contagious. “Mutations in [the] spike have been identified in every major variant that then out-competes the previous variant,” Frieman explained.

Meanwhile, the non-spike mutations appear to prolong infection. This in turn gives the pathogen more time to mutate inside a particular person, and also spread to other people. “We hypothesize that this balance is critical for further evolution of SARS-CoV-2,” Frieman’s team wrote.

It's that they, being Westerners, don't know any response besides mirroring what the virus is doing:

Frieman said his goal is to scrutinize these non-spike mutations in order to “figure out what they do, how they do it [and] why they make the virus better at being a virus.” “Then we can use that information to make drugs,” including new antiviral therapies and vaccine formulations.

They even think that the solution is to go faster:

Speed matters. The Omicron variant and its rapid-fire subvariants, each coming just a couple months after the last, was a warning that our pharmaceutical research-and-development processes might be too slow. Note that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration just last week green-lit Omicron-specific vaccine boosters—a full 10 months after the initial Omicron variant first became dominant. “Omicron and its lineages”—another term for subvariants—“taught us a lesson for the need to be more agile in modifying the vaccine,”


That problem could get worse if the rate of non-spike mutations accelerates. Our vaccine R&D is too slow even when it’s narrowly focused on the spike. What happens when it needs to broaden its scope to combat a virus that’s learning to mutate across its structure?

There’s another wrinkle. These accumulating mutations across the novel-coronavirus—on the spike and not on the spike—could start to mess with the polymerase chain-reaction tests we use to detect and track the virus.

PCR tests and sequencing use primers tailored for a certain range of viral characteristics. Too many mutations “can mess with the PCR test,” Niema Moshiri, a geneticist at the University of California-San Diego, told The Daily Beast.

Pay attention, but don’t panic. It’s really no surprise that SARS-CoV-2 is trying out mutations on different parts of the virus. That’s what viruses do—adapt.

Exactly. Yet read the next sentence:

The trick for us, the novel-coronavirus’s host, is to adapt at least as quickly.

No, the trick is to stop thinking like a Westerner:

Immunity approach = "We will evolve to be immune to you, and if you keep evolving in response, we will just keep evolving faster!"

Lockdown approach = "We will (by preventing transmissions) prevent you from evolving, so that we don't need to evolve either!"

The immunity approach is, at its core, a manifestation of progressivism (and hence equating the acquiring of more and more immunity with strengthening). The lockdown approach is a manifestation of regressivism (and hence equating the acquiring of more and more immunity with adulteration).

Regressivism must defeat progressivism if we are to break the cycle.

At least some comments are getting it now:

Vaccines for SARS-CoV-2 and influenza will always be chasing these constantly evolving viral mutations, so the alternative is to also focus on the science involved in reducing transmission (primarily airborne via small infectious respiratory aerosols) in indoor settings.
BTW the vaccines themselves exert evolutionary pressure on how these viruses evolve as they pass through the population.

The vaccine is mutating this virus in my opinion.

What we need is another full lockdown. Everyone I know is catching this. During the lockdown, the spread was much less.

The mRNA vaccines are causing the mutations.

Will anyone dare to hypothesize that the leaky vaccine is contributing to the variants?
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: July 10, 2022, 08:05:08 pm »


Western brains are still broken:

each new infection gives the virus a possibility to change its structure and become a more challenging disease to prevent.

“Every time it infects someone, there’s a chance it mutates,” said Shane Fernando, an assistant professor of pediatrics at the University of North Texas Health Science Center.
Fernando, who has a PhD in epidemiology, said one way to think about variants and subvariants of the original virus is to understand that the virus is trying to mutate so that it can better survive and continue to spread.

“Every hurdle that it comes across, it evolves in order to bypass or surpass that obstacle,” Fernando said.

This should be all the information anyone needs to conclude that the solution is to PREVENT NEW INFECTIONS, and certainly not to insert more and more of the very hurdles that the guy just explained literally help the virus become stronger.

But just a few paragraphs later, we are back to:

Where can I get the COVID-19 vaccine or booster in Fort Worth?
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: July 07, 2022, 09:08:05 pm »

They will not learn:

A new type of vaccine developed at Caltech aims to ward off novel coronaviruses even before health officials are aware that they exist.

This is how Westerners think. They can't help it. And then of course Western scientists will try it out:

When tested in mice and monkeys, it trained the animals' immune systems to recognize eight viruses at once — and induced immunity to viruses they had never encountered.
the vaccinated mice and monkeys had little to no detectable virus in their systems despite attempts to infect them with either SARS-CoV or SARS-CoV-2.

"We're very excited about that,” Bjorkman said.

That wasn't the case with the animals injected with the bare nanoparticle — they weren't able to fight off any viruses and died. The animals that received the vaccine with pieces of SARS-CoV-2 only were protected against that virus but had no protection against any other coronavirus, and most of them died as well.

Finally, to pre-emptively avoid responsibility for unforeseen negative outcomes later, blame the victims ahead of time:

“It’s certainly encouraging," said Dr. Paul Offit, a virologist and immunologist at the University of Pennsylvania. "But these are animal model studies, and as is well known among scientists, mice lie and monkeys exaggerate."

And as is well known among True Leftists, Western scientists behave like Westerners in general, but worse.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: July 06, 2022, 07:34:21 pm »

The omicron subvariant now dominating the U.S. is ‘the worst version of the virus that we’ve seen’
“It takes immune escape, already extensive, to the next level, and, as a function of that, enhanced transmissibility,” well beyond what has been seen before, he wrote.
The variants, discovered in South Africa, quickly took hold in the country in April and May despite the fact that almost all South Africans had been vaccinated or previously had COVID by that point.

Replace "despite" with "because of". Will Westerners ever learn?

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: May 01, 2022, 10:25:33 pm »

The new Omicron sublineage BA.2.12.1

Never mind:

New South African Covid Variants, Omicron BA.4 And BA.5, Found In U.S. For First Time; May Be More Transmissible Than BA.2
Posted by: rp
« on: April 21, 2022, 09:31:51 pm »

Unfortunately, False Leftists do not hold this view, but rather the opposite:

Fauci: Lockdowns are for getting people vaccinated, virus cannot be eradicated:
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: April 21, 2022, 09:23:18 pm »

I told you so:

Covid Whiplash: Now-Dominant BA.2 Variant Being Quickly Overtaken Across The U.S. By Yet Another Faster-Growing Omicron Offshoot, Says CDC
Just as most Americans have caught wind of the BA.2 variant of Omicron — which overtook the original Omicron as the dominant strain in the U.S. less than a month ago — another possibly faster-growing version of Omicron is quickly making inroads.

The new Omicron sublineage BA.2.12.1 now accounts for 19% of all new cases specifically sequenced for variants in the country, according to data released Tuesday by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control. That means the strain — barely on the national radar two weeks ago — is now being identified in close to 1 in 5 newly-sequenced cases, up from 1.5% less than a month before on 3/19. Given that, Americans trying to keep up may be experiencing a form of variant whiplash.

The more vaccines used, the more the virus evolves in response. The cycle will never end until transmissions end. And yet the very rationale behind vaccines is to reduce the immediate danger of transmissions (and hence remove the incentive for stopping trasmissions). Welcome to Western civilization.