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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: September 09, 2023, 09:10:15 pm »

Not to be confused with:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/ice/

False Leftists complain about:

https://us.yahoo.com/lifestyle/ice-one-rudest-dining-habits-164602701.html

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"ICE" Is One Of The Rudest Dining Habits Ever, And You Might Be Doing It

I, as a True Leftist and thus an anti-relativist, do it proudly!

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The scene: It’s an hour into a dinner party you’re hosting for “friends.” (Note the quotes.) Most of your guests are on their second (or third) round of adult beverages and are tucking into the main course — sumptuous grilled shrimp paired with grits, the latter of which you made yourself according to an old family recipe. Shouts of approval echo from around the table, but then you hear a very audible murmur: “These grits are good. However, you know, when I make them I use real cream, not milk.”

I do the vegan version, of course.

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If this situation sounds familiar, you’re one of millions of estimated Americans who has borne witness to what could be called “invidious comparison eating,” or ICE.

Potentially the most passive-aggressive bad-dining habit, ICE is when a person indirectly asserts a dish they’re consuming is lesser by listing the “superior” merits of another version (usually their own). ICE can play out in any sort of group meal setting (e.g., restaurants or coffee shops), but it’s particularly offensive when it transpires in a domestic space, right in front of the home cook.

I do precisely this as often as possible in order to insert veganism into the conversation.

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invidious comparison as “a process of valuation of persons in respect of worth,”

Yes!

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it’s not enough that your dinner party “friend” can afford to purchase and deploy real cream when they make grits; this fact must also be broadcast to the masses to establish their superiority.

Yes! In my case, soy milk. This establishes my quantifiable superiority over dairy consumers:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dietary-decolonization/msg6987/#msg6987

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Unlike cream, soy milk is cheaper too:

https://www.quora.com/Which-is-cheaper-to-produce-soy-milk-or-dairy

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Soy milk is generally cheaper to produce than dairy milk. Soybeans are less expensive to grow and process than the feed, labor, and other costs associated with dairy cows.

Next, I will practice invidious comparison physiognomy:

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She's about to tell you how she makes her own (better) version.

That is fine. But I would have chosen a model with a narrower FWHR.  ;D

I am also a supporter of invidious comparison music:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/recommended-music-to-listen-to/msg20974/#msg20974
Posted by: rp
« on: August 24, 2023, 10:50:30 pm »

Posted by: rp
« on: August 23, 2023, 08:38:29 pm »

Just watched the debate, and I saw that fatass Christie thin-shaming one of the candidates, Vivek Ramaswamy (an ectomorph of Indian (i.e. tropical climate)) origin. Don't agree with Ramaswamy's views but it illustrates the racial undercurrent.
Posted by: rp
« on: August 19, 2023, 09:16:41 am »

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: August 13, 2023, 06:14:00 pm »

False Left TYT criticizes not only Trump's hypocrisy in fat-shaming Christie (which is a valid criticism) but also fat-shaming itself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t20PqBrF7z0

Woke commenters are not buying it, and are instead mocking both Trump and Christie simultaneously:

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Christie is a threat to every Cheeto in this universe. No wonder the cheat-o is terrified of Christie's corpulence.

and generally mocking rightists for their physical appearance (ie. what TYT told them to not do):

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we should have exceptions for anyone who's face stopped growing when they were three but their head continued to grow (naming no Charlie Kirks)

I suggest woke commenters start mocking the TYT hosts for their physical appearance also.
Posted by: rp
« on: July 23, 2023, 11:30:23 am »

Rude or not?
Posted by: rp
« on: July 12, 2023, 01:39:45 am »

I am the same approximately the same height as her but weigh more than 40 pounds less!
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: July 11, 2023, 06:26:08 pm »

Let's see:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/14gmd8w/my_auntie_just_walked_up_to_me_and_said_you_have/

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"you have gotten fatter, get on a diet"

Unlike the auntie, I am totally fine with fat people not putting in effort to lose weight. I am only against trying to lower standards.

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im 5`4 145 pounds, i know im NOT FAT

Hopeless.
Posted by: rp
« on: July 11, 2023, 08:46:22 am »

Indian auntie tells girl she is fat, girl rants about it online:
https://incels.is/threads/my-auntie-just-walked-up-to-me-and-said-you-have-gotten-fatter.497843/
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 22, 2023, 05:30:26 pm »

Continuing from:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-adhd/msg20587/#msg20587

False Left article:

https://us.yahoo.com/gma/time-running-missing-titanic-tour-035237163.html

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Nonetheless, as one sane commentator posted on Twitter, it is possible to hold space for both the drowned migrants and the missing billionaires. In fact, to maintain a shred of our human decency, it's necessary to honor all levels of human suffering and death.

If so, I am proud to have no human decency.

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Imagine for a moment that there was a camera inside of the Titan and we could watch the mounting desperation in its hull. If we had to actually look at the pain in the dying men’s eyes, would we still joke about it?

I would.

False (ie. unwoke) Left comments:

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Any loss of life is tragic......No matter how crazy someone's  ideas are.........

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Failing to resurface in that craft is the most terrifying thing I can imagine and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, no matter who they might be.

True (ie. woke) Left comments:

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We should feel sympathy for rich people who are always searching for the next thrill?

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Who cares about 5 rich jerks wasting $ on their own thrills.

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Suffering involves being forced to endure loss or pain. They chose their loss and pain.  That's not suffering.  Where's the outpouring of grief for the immigrants who lose their lives fleeing here to escape suffering? Where's that concern?

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Yep, migrants drown, and no one cares. Rich people die, they are in the media 24 hours a day!

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I have no sympathy for self inflicted wounds. The passengers knew the dangers involved, and chose to take the risk.

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In my humble opinion had those idle rich donated all that money to feed the hungry it would have been more rewarding

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it can be hard to develop "sympathy, empathy" for folks willing to forgo the world's poor and blast $250k on a thinly veiled death wish

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When evil rich people do something dumb and suffer consequences, we laugh.

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They got what they deserved.

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My new company is bringing paying customers down to view the wreckage of this poor submersible
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 16, 2023, 06:18:21 pm »

True Leftist mainstream journalism:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-people-stole-affirmative-action-083000077.html

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elite colleges and universities — which I have criticized in my book and elsewhere as drivers of social inequality — made a conscious, self-serving choice to maintain an absolute focus on diversity and inclusion rather than the more difficult topics of race and exclusion.

As I have always said, diversity is a False Left value. Finally mainstream journalism is catching up.

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The bottom line is that elite institutions’ collective refusal to reckon with their racist conduct has left affirmative action on a rickety constitutional foundation that will ensure its doom.

It didn’t have to be this way.

Indeed it did not. It is solely because False Leftists were too cowardly to defend justly taking back what "whites" stole that they felt the need to campaign under the banner of diversity instead. Diversity is an attempt to sell to "whites" the notion that "whites" possessing less space is good for "whites", when what we should have been doing all along is explaining that "whites" having the space they stole returned to their actual owners is good for justice.

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The Diversity Compromise

The term “affirmative action” first appeared in a 1963 executive order, signed by President John F. Kennedy, establishing the Committee on Equal Employment Opportunities to be chaired by Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson. Conceived by the committee’s special counsel, Hobart Taylor, Jr., the phrase originally connoted aggressive, forward-looking efforts to combat racism, as in “by affirmative action the elimination of discrimination.”

After becoming president, Johnson transformed its meaning to compensation for past injustices during a 1965 commencement speech at Howard University. “You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains,” Johnson said, “and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, ‘You are free to compete with all the others,’ and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.”

Martin Luther King Jr. sounded a similar note during a now infamous Playboy interview, in which he promoted massive government spending to create jobs and educational opportunities for Black youth. Asked by Alex Haley about the fairness of preferential programs, King replied, “All of America’s wealth today could not adequately compensate its Negroes for his centuries of exploitation and humiliation.”

During the late 1960s, many colleges and professional schools began giving Black students special consideration in admissions. Arguably, this was little more than a curtailment of the colleges’ discrimination against applicants of color, but many schools conceptualized it as partial reparations for America’s legacy of racism.

The first affirmative action case reached the Supreme Court in 1974 in a challenge from Marco DeFunis, a white applicant denied admission to University of Washington Law School. In a friend-of-the-court brief filed on Harvard’s behalf, former Watergate special prosecutor and Harvard professor Archibald Cox argued that affirmative action was justified by “the direct or indirect consequences of slavery, ‘white supremacy’ and other historic prejudices leading to the poverty and isolation of disadvantaged groups.”

So far so good. But then this happened:

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But the court was experiencing a backlash to many of its civil rights decisions, particularly in the area of busing, and Cox questioned whether a majority of the justices would support the proposition that Black people deserved preferential treatment or reparations for America’s centuries of slavery and discrimination.

And thus Cox became a False Leftist:

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So Cox articulated an alternative justification for affirmative action: diversity. It was “a stimulus to the development of every student’s personality and understanding, as well as a preparation for the society in which he will live,” he wrote in the DeFunis brief. “A farm boy from Idaho can bring something to Harvard College that a Bostonian cannot offer. Similarly, a Black student can usually bring something that a white person cannot offer.”

This is how False Leftists sabotage leftism.

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The Supreme Court found DeFunis’ challenge moot but returned to the issue in 1977. Cox, now representing the University of California system against Allan Bakke’s challenge to quotas at UC Davis Medical School, chose to emphasize the diversity argument above all else. (That was despite the school’s meager record in that regard; its inaugural 1968 class had included no Black, Latino or Native American students.)

Cox was making a deliberate calculation that the diversity argument was most likely to win a majority of the right-leaning court. He particularly had in mind the swing justice, Lewis Powell, who’d presided over Richmond’s school board during an era of near segregation and, in a 1970 speech, inveighed against “the guilt-ridden views of those who talk about reparations for past injustice.”

The moment you start worrying about being disliked by the oppressors, you begin corrupting everything you touch.

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The Problems with Diversity

Following Bakke, colleges proceeded as if diversity was the sole permissible justification for affirmative action. In 2017, only 352 of America’s approximately 6,000 colleges and universities said they considered race as a factor in admissions. All of their affirmative action programs are premised on the supposed benefits of diversity. Colleges may have perceived this approach as politically expedient in a country that still struggles with race, but as an intellectual foundation it could hardly have been shakier.
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“Deep down,” John McWhorter wrote in the New York Times, “I suspect we all know that it would be quite possible for students to get a sterling education at a university where every student was a white person from Colorado.”

Given the historical context, if “educational” benefits of diversity exist, they must principally have been for white people. In 1972, after DeFunis initiated his lawsuit, just 4 percent of Harvard students identified as Black. (When Bakke reached the court, the number had increased to 8 percent.) If students indeed learned math better in racially diverse environments, those benefits could not have been about helping Black students since they were largely absent from the classroom.

Herein lies the essence of the problem with the diversity rationale: It justifies affirmative action in terms of its benefits for white people.

Thus, once enough time has passed for it to become obvious that such benefits are not forthcoming, the False Left narrative collapses, and rightism appears vindicated. The strength of the True Left narrative, in contrast, is that it agrees with rightists that taking space from "whites" is indeed bad for "whites", but merely argues that it is the just course of action.

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At a rally outside the Supreme Court, while the justices heard arguments on SFFA’s appeals, one of the signs said, “Diversity is good for white people.”

No, it is not. That is why we should support it. Holding Trump accountable is not good for Trump. That is why we should support it. Destroying Israel is not good for Israel. That is why we should support it. And so on. See how True Leftism works?

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Boston University School of Law professor Jonathan Feingold, who has written extensively about affirmative action, wasn’t surprised, telling me the remedial justification has “a stronger constitutional mooring” than the diversity rationale.

Duh!

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Moreover, the remedial justification would have done important work in the court of public opinion, particularly as the country goes through a racial reckoning.

Exactly. Supporters of diversity would logically be opposed to "white" genocide since "white" genocide would clearly reduce diversity. This elementary logic is why we have never had any respect for diversity as a value in itself. A world in which evil exists alongside good is more diverse than a world of good only. Is the former a better world than the latter?

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Feingold offers the simplest possible explanation for why colleges have focused exclusively on diversity. “Institutions,” he says, “don’t want to have to do the potentially embarrassing, shameful uplifting of history that would actually be necessary for a remedial defense.” Harvard, which benefited extensively from the labor of enslaved peoples, recently committed $100 million to support historical research by scholars and students, but notably excluded reparations or any change to admissions policies. UNC didn’t desegregate until 1955, following a federal court order, and resisted integration during the 1960s through a strategy of so-called moderation.

“UNC’s history,” Feingold says, “is another reason why it feels — and this is maybe slight hyperbole — like legal malpractice to leave that argument on the table when for most of your history you were either formally excluding Black students or you were formally resisting federal mandates that you let them in.”

Yep.

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Justice Amy Coney Barrett asked SFFA’s lawyer to consider an applicant who came from “an underprivileged school, who maybe didn’t have the best teaching, best opportunities to score well on the SAT.”
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Anyone can find disadvantage if they look hard enough — in the stresses of their high school experiences or the suffering of their ancestors. Denying one’s advantages is far more difficult. For most white applicants, any such list would begin with what the college admissions process defines as meritorious.

Which brings us back to the need for:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/academic-decolonization/
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 01, 2023, 04:30:16 am »

Ignore False Left TYT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRYjmZrSgsM

My True Left suggestion is spreading in the comments:

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I think all passengers should be allowed to board with a grand total weight which includes luggage and body weight.  It seems very unfair that one passenger gets charged for excessive luggage weight while those boarding with excessive body weight aren't charged an equal amount for their excessive weight.  It seems only fair.

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People should be charged according to weight.  It only makes sense.

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You should be charged more the more you weigh.... it's not rocket science. You have more fat to lug around that consumes more fuel thus higher ticket cost.

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about time!!! air fares should be based on weight and cubic footage just like all cargo..
really something when my bag is 2 pounds over weight incurring 33xtra charges when I'm only one hundred pounds and all the passengers in line with me are 2-3 times my size

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Weighing passengers and their baggage is a no-brainer and should have been implemented a LONG time ago. There should be surcharges and discounts depending on this 'total' weight, since extra heavy passengers cost more to fly.

And even comments calling out Kasparian for her False Leftism:

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Ana, Once upon a time EVERY airline passenger was weighed. It was essential to know EXACTLY the load that the aircraft was carrying.
Maybe you forget that the Airline can set any rules it likes for its customers. It's called CAPITALISM.
If you don't like it, don't fly. Simple.
Remember the clowns who would not wear masks during the pandemic? What did you say about them?

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Unfortunately, Ana, checking in and weighing luggage is a must to help make the plane 'fly' in the first place. Weight distribution matters. An imbalanced plane can cause accidents.
Posted by: guest98
« on: May 28, 2023, 07:29:02 pm »

I don't understand how lifting weights until you start bleeding out your nose is going to "save the white race". Mani did say what would happen to the enemy at the end (and to make myself clear, the enemy can be found in all races), the male would be separated from the female, the male bound to the heap and the female send to the grave. The bodybuilder physique is what being bound to the heap looks like.

Man should turn his attention to God with faith and with patience, so that he may free you from the sexually dimorphic body, which is a prison, and bless you with the body of androgyny.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: May 27, 2023, 08:44:51 pm »

This is why we have to point out details in the enemy propaganda itself that unravels their narrative. For example:

https://twitter.com/makeEuropaSnow/status/1662519124558491648



Oh yeah? Then what's with their high-sexual-dimorphism clothes? Why was it the people wearing high-sexual-dimorphism clothes who colonized the people wearing low-sexual-dimorphism clothes?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/re-genghis-khan/msg4142/#msg4142

Similarly:

https://twitter.com/makeEuropaSnow/status/1661143704680407040



Yes, this is what I hate the most. Why are those who wear high-sexual-dimorphism clothes also those who reproduce the most?

Just their consistent worship of high sexual dimorphism:

https://twitter.com/makeeuropasnow2/status/1659184101704994817 (video at link, too absurd to parody)

already reveals their inner evil to those who can see.
Posted by: FRG_03
« on: May 27, 2023, 08:03:18 pm »

White nationalists seem incapable of imagining any non-"whites" as decent people, so they use mental gymnastics to try and justify their racism claiming to be the most peaceful and "loving" people in the world. Westerners "love" is a fake ugly mask they put on. They're always aggressive and hostile underneath the layers of "civility".