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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: March 12, 2023, 03:46:53 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSS25jEr6go

20:49-21:27 echoes what I am worried about what this might lead to. It should be noted that China was not critical of the Abraham Accords (that involved UAE and Bahrain recognizing Israel):

https://www.mei.edu/publications/china-and-abraham-accords-peace-agreement

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A day after the agreement between Israel and the UAE was first made public, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian stated that Beijing was “pleased” to see the two countries taking steps to reduce tensions in the Middle East.[2]

thus are unlikely to try to stop any prospective Saudi recognition of Israel either. Yet if Saudi recognition of Israel goes ahead, then Iran's newly established relations with Saudi will mean Iran will be under pressure to recognize Israel also.

Additionally, I predict Israel will now step up support for the pro-democracy protestors in Iran to overthrow the current regime, which would then reset Iran's foreign relations. Thus even if the current regime sticks to its principle of not recognizing Israel, whatever manages to displace the current regime in Iran would surely recognize Israel at once.

The fundamental problem is that China's aim was never to unite Iran and Saudi against Israel, but to end conflict in the region generally (ie. including ending conflicts involving Israel) in the interests of increased prosperity for all (ie. including increased prosperity for Israel). If China had instead criticized the Abraham Accords from the beginning like we did, and then pitched this Iran-Saudi deal as a countermeasure to the Abraham Accords, that would have been a good move. But this is not what we have in reality. Thus I discourage over-optimism about this ideal.

Until China acquires a worldview based on moral dualism, it will continue to be incapable of formulating plans that Israel cannot rewire to its own ultimate advantage.
Posted by: BankRun
« on: March 11, 2023, 07:44:52 pm »

South Africa downgrades diplomatic ties with ‘apartheid Israel’
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South Africa’s parliament has voted to downgrade its diplomatic relations with Israel.

This comes after years of strained relations due to Israel’s treatment of Palestinians.

Al Jazeera’s Fahmida Miller reports from Johannesburg, South Africa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7cqSr4jFAs
Posted by: rp
« on: February 20, 2023, 07:58:35 am »

An addendum: I do agree with 90sRetroFan though, that a significant chunk of these pro-CCP false leftists will shift over to straight up rightism within the next few decades BECAUSE of, as is referenced in your link, what Wang Huning calls the Black Challenge. These false leftists, who usually go so far as to claim to be radical leftists, praise China for its innovation and the economic prosperity that they believe it is just starting to enjoy because of the CCP's actions. They believe that in these respects, it will continue to surpass the US. If they want to keep this view on China while being intellectually honest, they will have to end up dropping their anti-racist stance. As time passes, it'll become harder and harder for a lot of them to believe that non-westerners, and in particular other non-whites, are as capable of managing the kind of civilization they desire (a western one, even if they refuse to call it that). Most of these people are BLM supporters for now, but there will very likely be a Wang Huning-style divergence where a lot of them give up on "black" Americans and "black" people as a whole, leaving them to the wolves

I agree. But this rightism will be of the Enlightenment liberal flavor, rather than say, the outright racist (traditionalist) rightism that I have observed in countries such as India. Could have something to do with Gentile blood memory in the former versus Turanian blood memory in the latter.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 18, 2023, 06:14:21 pm »

An encouraging sign:

https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20230218-israel-condemns-expulsion-of-its-diplomat-from-african-union-summit

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Israel on Saturday condemned the "severe" expulsion of a senior diplomat from the African Union summit, accusing arch-foe Iran of orchestrating the move with help from Algeria and South Africa.

A video circulating on social media shows guards escorting the Israeli foreign ministry's deputy director general for Africa, Sharon Bar-li, out of the AU assembly taking place in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa.

A spokesman for the Israeli foreign ministry described the incident as "severe," noting Bar-li was "an accredited observer with an entry tag", a claim denied by an AU official.

The ministry spokesman said it was "saddening to see the African Union taken hostage by a small number of extremist states like Algeria and South Africa, which are driven by hatred and controlled by Iran".
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Israel attained observer status at the AU in 2021 after decades of diplomatic efforts, drawing protest from powerful members including South Africa and Algeria, which argued that it flew in the face of AU statements supporting the Palestinians.

Last year, unease flared over the accreditation of Israel as an observer at the AU, with the Palestinians -- who also have an observer status at the body -- urging it to be withdrawn.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 15, 2023, 05:43:31 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1paKDmTazbc

China and Iran should build a new bloc that not only excludes Russia but indeed makes it its purpose to encircle and constrict Russia and wider Turandom.
Posted by: m94r
« on: February 02, 2023, 01:57:33 pm »

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/2/2/turkey-summons-norwegian-ambassador-over-protest-permission

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Police ban planned Quran burning protest in Norway

Oslo police Inspector Martin Strand says demonstration in Norwegian capital ‘can’t go ahead due to security concerns’.

Police in Norway have banned a planned protest including the burning of a copy of the Islamic holy book, the Quran, hours after the Turkish foreign ministry summoned the Norwegian ambassador to complain.

A group of protesters planned to burn a copy of the Quran outside the Turkish embassy in Oslo on Friday, police said.

“The police emphasise that burning the Quran is a legal political statement in Norway, but this event can’t go ahead due to security concerns,” Oslo police Inspector Martin Strand said in a statement on Thursday.



Posted by: m94r
« on: January 24, 2023, 01:16:20 pm »

F_ck Denmark too, these Scandinavian degenerate racists are proving themselves unworthy of existing in the coming new age. If they don't change their behaviour soon they will have to be totally invaded and destroyed. God willing we will be victorious against the Jews-"whites".
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 23, 2023, 09:14:14 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Qp44INi9c

Paludan has behaved similarly in Denmark. Why not denounce Denmark also?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/denmark/
Posted by: m94r
« on: January 22, 2023, 03:27:40 pm »

The dumbass homo hubris rasmus paludan needs to be given a hard beating.
Posted by: rp
« on: January 21, 2023, 08:08:48 pm »

https://twitter.com/dharma__vijaya/status/1607590500613378048
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In part, Chinese interaction with India in the last 2 centuries was though Indians who were British stooges only. Remember Tatas started by selling opium to China.

But Chinese stupidly hold on to 2 centuries old memory & forget 2 millennia old ones when India was Tianzhu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianzhu_(India)
Posted by: guest78
« on: January 21, 2023, 07:46:58 pm »

Far-right leader burns a copy of Quran outside Turkish embassy
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Türkiye has cancelled the Swedish Defence Minister's upcoming visit to Ankara following Swedish authorities giving permission for  a far-right political leader to burn a copy of the Quran, Islam's holy book, in front of the Turkish Embassy in Stockholm on Saturday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbPu5nehzY

Turkiye cancels Swedish defence minister’s visit over protest permit | Latest World News | WION
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Turkiye recently called off a visit by Sweden's defence minister over a planned demonstration by a right-wing extremist in Stockholm. Watch video to know more.

#turkiye #sweden #boycott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_YY_G681g
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 11, 2023, 09:25:04 pm »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-cuts-deal-taliban-extract-151204470.html

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The Taliban is cutting its first major energy extractions agreement since taking control of Afghanistan in 2021, agreeing to a 25-year pact with a Chinese company to drill for oil in the country's Amu Darya basin.

"The Amu Darya oil contract is an important project between China and Afghanistan," Wang Yu, the Chinese ambassador to Afghanistan, said at a press conference in Kabul, according to a BBC report last week.

Congratulations! Let's rebuild the ancient friendship!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93China_relations#History_(Han_to_Qing)

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In antiquity, the region that is now Afghanistan was known for its devotion to Buddhism, which had been founded in India in the 5th century BC. Chinese records from the Han dynasty refer to Kabul as "Kao-fu", which is described as a wealthy cite located in the Hindu Kush mountains on a strategic location on the trade routes linking Central Asia to India.[5] A Buddhist monk from what is now Afghanistan arrived in China in 2 BC and converted the first Chinese to Buddhism.[5] Afghanistan was often visited by Chinese Buddhist pilgrims on their way to India in antiquity, and Buddhist sites such as Balkh and the Buddhas of Bamyan attracted many Chinese visitors.[5] Chinese records credit craftsmen from Afghanistan with producing the first glass in China between 424 and 428 AD, through archaeological evidence suggests that glass was being produced earlier in China.[5]
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Religions such as Nestorian Christianity first reached China in the Tang dynasty via Afghanistan, to be followed later by Islam.[6]

The Church of the East Christians like the Bactrian Priest Yisi of Balkh helped the Tang dynasty general Guo Ziyi militarily crush the Sogdian-Turk led An Lushan rebellion, with Yisi personally acting as a military commander and Yisi and the Church of the East were rewarded by the Tang dynasty with titles and positions as described in the Xi'an Stele.[12][13][14][15][16]

Alliance between the ancient civilizations always comes back to anti-Turanism!

For those who don't know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Lushan_Rebellion

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An Lushan was a general of uncertain birth origins, but thought to have been adopted by a Sogdian father and Göktürk mother of the Ashina tribe.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashina_tribe

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According to some researchers (Duan, Xue, Tang, and Lung) the Ashina tribe were descended from the Tiele confederation,[19][20][21][22][23] who were likewise associated with the Xiongnu.[24][25]
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According to the Book of Zhou and History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was related to the "Yenisei Kyrgyz",[68][69][d][e] who resided near the Pamir mountains and are described as possessing red hair and blue eyes in the New Book of Tang (Xin Tangshu 217b.6147), a description previously used to describe the Wusun.[28] However according to Lee & Kuang (2017), the Göktürks differed from the Qirghiz in their physiognomy and "no comparable depiction of the Kök Türks or Tiele is found in the official Chinese histories."[74] Lee & Kuang state that the most likely explanation for the West Eurasian physiognomy of the Yenisei Kirghiz is a high frequency of the Eurasian Indo-European haplogroup R1a-Z93.[75]

Muqan Qaghan, the third Qaghan of the First Turkic Khaganate, was described by Chinese authors as having an unusual appearance. He had eyes like "colored glazes",[76][77] he had a red complexion, and his face was wide.[78][79]
Posted by: SirGalahad
« on: January 04, 2023, 05:43:43 am »

Yeah, I remember this conversation. I just mentioned Black Hammer because it’s almost a perfect example of the kinds of people I was referring to in my earlier comments. They definitely do not like the figureheads that Putin associates with, but needlessly tie themselves in knots to justify Duginist kowtowing anyways
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 04, 2023, 03:30:32 am »

"Black Hammer, a small group that we've mentioned positively on both the forums and on the blog, go even further than pro-CCP Marxists by not just seeing Russia as an ally, but explicitly supporting Russia's ambitions including its takeover of Ukraine."

My earlier critique of Black Hammer can be found here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/volunteer/black-hammer/msg6628/#msg6628

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/volunteer/black-hammer/msg6656/#msg6656

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This is their worldview:

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    The colonizers have already lost the war of ideas—Russia, Iran, China, and Colonized Nations all grow more united by the day. The influence of amerikkkan empire is slipping and its pathetic attempts to use the media as a mouthpiece to soften our revolutionary fire is doomed to fail.

Are they unaware that Russia was a Western colonial power (not to mention the one which has given back less of its stolen land than any other Western colonial power following WWII)?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/

America, on the other hand, can easily be reinterpreted as a victim of colonialism, which is already occurring as we speak, with Columbus Day being discarded in favour of Indigenous People's Day, etc.. America's true geopolitical destiny is to sincerely replace Russia's current insincere position as the ally of China and Iran. This is what Black Hammer as a US-based group should be working towards, not tearing down America out of petty spite (as Dugin wants to see happen).

Also recall:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/volunteer/black-hammer/msg6691/#msg6691
Posted by: SirGalahad
« on: January 04, 2023, 01:22:27 am »

An addendum: I do agree with 90sRetroFan though, that a significant chunk of these pro-CCP false leftists will shift over to straight up rightism within the next few decades BECAUSE of, as is referenced in your link, what Wang Huning calls the Black Challenge. These false leftists, who usually go so far as to claim to be radical leftists, praise China for its innovation and the economic prosperity that they believe it is just starting to enjoy because of the CCP's actions. They believe that in these respects, it will continue to surpass the US. If they want to keep this view on China while being intellectually honest, they will have to end up dropping their anti-racist stance. As time passes, it'll become harder and harder for a lot of them to believe that non-westerners, and in particular other non-whites, are as capable of managing the kind of civilization they desire (a western one, even if they refuse to call it that). Most of these people are BLM supporters for now, but there will very likely be a Wang Huning-style divergence where a lot of them give up on "black" Americans and "black" people as a whole, leaving them to the wolves