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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 18, 2024, 08:06:55 pm »

Another prodigy:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/22/devon-schoolboy-joins-mensa-with-higher-iq-score-than-einstein

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Rory Bidwell, 12, recently achieved the maximum possible score for his age group of 162 on the Cattell III B test
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Rory, a year 7 student at Great Torrington school, is said to have completed 100-piece puzzles at the age of two and mastered year 7 level algebra in year 2.

During the first eight weeks of the coronavirus lockdown of 2020, he read all seven Harry Potter books – more than 1 million words.

He is also said to be a big sports fan, representing his school in cross-country, football and rugby, earning accolades such as player of the year for Torridgeside football team. He also competes for Torridgeside swimming club.

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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 15, 2024, 04:48:46 pm »

Our enemies mourn:



https://vdare.com/posts/edward-jay-epstein-rip

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he’d grown up in New York affluent and Jewish at a time of rapidly growing Jewish success.
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But his big advantage, he writes, was that at age 12, a difficult time for most boys, he was already 6′ 2″ and 200 pounds. This precocious size “conferred on me a bold social confidence that would remain.” Whereas magnates tend to see most reporters as ink-stained wretches, many seemed to find the audaciously assured Epstein as, by nature, a fellow buccaneer.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: August 31, 2023, 01:30:04 pm »

More prodigies:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chess-prodigy-accused-cheating-vibrating-022055756.html

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Hans Niemann, 19, defeated the Norwegian grandmaster Magnus Carlsen, 31, in a chess match

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 13, 2023, 12:29:35 am »

Another prodigy:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-child-prodigy-accepts-software-190720520.html

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One of the newest employees at SpaceX has been described as a child prodigy who skipped elementary school and will graduate from college this week at the tender age of 14.
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He left elementary school after finishing the third grade and enrolled in community college at age 9. Kairan transferred to Santa Clara University at age 11. In college, he had a multiyear internship at Intel as an artificial intelligence research fellow.

Kairan will receive his bachelor's degree in computer science and engineering from SCU on Saturday — the youngest graduate in the school's 172-year history, the San Jose Mercury News reported.

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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: April 13, 2023, 09:28:34 pm »

"Would you agree that Texiera looks young, in this picture for example (note the lack of facial hair):"

This is the reduced/paedomorphic type that we keep talking about.

"So a robust child who remains robust as an adult is not neotenous?"

They are not, because maturation only ever increases robustness.

"those who were robust as children are automatically disqualified as they were already adulterated?"

Yes!
Posted by: rp
« on: April 13, 2023, 08:45:22 pm »

"I think there is some confusion here."
I was referencing the comment from the article: "He is youthful looking, barely older than the teenage friends". Would you agree that Texiera looks young, in this picture for example (note the lack of facial hair):


"Neither are neotenous"
So a robust child who remains robust as an adult is not neotenous? I thought neoteny merely meant retaining the appearance one had as a child, but I suppose it actually means retaining a youthful (childlike) appearance, in which case those who were robust as children are automatically disqualified as they were already adulterated?
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: April 13, 2023, 08:24:29 pm »

"Youthful looking (neoteny) =/= Aryan looking (gracility)."

I think there is some confusion here. Recall:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg18568/#msg18568

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Gracility and neoteny are not the same thing, as there exist people who are already robust as children (e.g. https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg17900/#msg17900 ). When we associate gracility with neoteny, we are talking about those who were not robust as children who also manage to avoid gaining robustness during puberty being more neotenous than (and hence superior to) those who were not robust as children but who gain robustness during puberty.

All gracile adults used to be gracile children. In other words, all gracile adults are neotenous.

On the other hand, some robust adults used to be gracile children, while other robust adults used to be robust children (albeit less robust than the adults they eventually became). Neither are neotenous.

Teixeira reminds me of Shapiro who was previously discussed here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg461/#msg461

Note Teixeira's deep eye sockets. That is not neotenous.
Posted by: rp
« on: April 13, 2023, 07:53:06 pm »

Who is Jack Teixeira, the man arrested over Pentagon files leak?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/13/who-is-jack-teixeira-the-man-arrested-over-pentagon-files-leak
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In photographs, Jack Teixeira, the 21-year-old air national guardsman who has been identified as the prime suspect in the leak of classified intelligence documents, is slim in his dark blue air force uniform. He is youthful looking, barely older than the teenage friends seen in the online group in which the classified documents were leaked.

On Thursday evening, the FBI arrested Teixeira and were searching his home. Video footage from a local TV station showed him being led away in handcuffs.

Teixeira was identified by the New York Times as the leading figure in an online gaming chat group, Thug Shaker Central, on the social network Discord. The details that have emerged about Teixeira have put him in the frame as a person of interest in the leak investigation.

Deployed in the 102nd intelligence wing of the Massachusetts air national guard, Teixeira was also a key member of a group of about 30 people who shared an interest in guns, video games and racist memes.

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Youthful looking (neoteny) =/= Aryan looking (gracility).
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: March 23, 2023, 06:14:04 pm »

The GIF you posted is Eurocentrist propaganda. It is easy to find counterexamples:

https://img1.doubanio.com/view/photo/l/public/p2335599129.webp

https://up.gc-img.net/post_img_web/2021/12/d73b143732c14c2042f5c785bc41652d_22282.jpeg

(See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/media-decolonization/msg8720/#msg8720 )

Gracility and neoteny are not the same thing, as there exist people who are already robust as children (e.g. https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg17900/#msg17900 ). When we associate gracility with neoteny, we are talking about those who were not robust as children who also manage to avoid gaining robustness during puberty being more neotenous than (and hence superior to) those who were not robust as children but who gain robustness during puberty.

The general rule is: the lighter the effects of puberty on a person, the more neotenous the person is.

This is most clearly seen in body hair (which increases most during puberty):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_hair#Across_populations

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Stewart W. Hindley and Albert Damon of the Department of Anthropology at Stanford University studied, in 1973, the frequency of hair on the middle finger joint (mid-phalangeal hair) of Solomon Islanders, as a part of a series of anthropometric studies of these populations. They summarize other studies on prevalence of this trait as reporting, in general, that Caucasoids are more likely to have hair on the middle finger joint than Negroids and Mongoloids, and collect the following frequencies from previously published literature: Andamanese 0%, Eskimo 1%, African American 16% or 28%, Ethiopians 25.6%, Mexicans of the Yucatan 20.9%, Penobscot and Shinnecock 22.7%, Gurkha 33.6%, Japanese 44.6%, various Hindus 40–50%, Egyptians 52.3%, Near Eastern peoples 62–71%, various Europeans 60–80%. However, they never completed an Androgenic hair map.[18]

According to anthropologist and professor Ashley Montagu in 1989, Asian people and black people such as the San people are less hairy than white people. Montagu said that the hairless feature is a neotenous trait.[19]

Posted by: blu alder
« on: March 23, 2023, 01:18:43 pm »

I recently found this GIF of skulls. However, I could only find the GIF showing the differences in the two races shown. Though I have seen gracile face shapes in people of all races, it is rare, and I would say even rarer in East Asians. I've always wondered why I couldn't see many East Asians as other people do in terms of how neotenous they are, and this GIF helped me see why. It seems like a lot of people do not consider gracility and neoteny in the same boat, as many faces considered, "neotenous" are quite round and wide looking...Unless I am seeing wrong.

GIF:

https://imgur.com/BMrYSWZ
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 12, 2023, 08:57:42 pm »

Another prodigy:

https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2023/2/9-year-old-nigerian-boy-david-balogun-becomes-one-of-the-youngest-ever-high-school-graduates.html

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He said he especially enjoys math and science, especially nuclear chemistry, and he hopes to one day go into astronomy, engineering or software development.

When he's not studying, David said he also enjoys building robots

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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: October 30, 2022, 05:27:15 pm »

I agree academically with our enemy Taylor:

https://www.amren.com/news/2022/10/anthony-trollopes-white-genius/

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It occurred to me, as I read the last few pages of Barchester Towers, that a taste for Anthony Trollope is something else that sends an almost unerring racial signal. You could add “reads Trollope” to the profile of people you would like to meet through a dating service, and you wouldn’t have to specify race. If Detroit still has public libraries, I bet the Trollope volumes never leave the shelves.
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people who are forced to read him before they are old enough to understand him hate him just as they hate Shakespeare or Dickens, but for those who discover him when they are ready, he is pure joy.

In other words, only the sufficiently adulterated can like Trollope.

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Some people like this kind of writing and some don’t. Some people like opera and some don’t. But I think it is hard to like Anthony Trollope and not be white.

This is hardly unique to Trollope, of course. All the great authors of Western literature — and some critics do not even rank Trollope among the really great — have the same subtle understanding of human nature and make the same demands on readers. They appeal to a sensibility that is not only thoroughly adult, but adult in a way that is thoroughly European.

In other words, Taylor's claim is that low neoteny is a defining characteristic of "whiteness". I agree with this claim. I have explained before that the way in which True Left wokeness despise "whiteness" should be emotionally similar to the way in which Original Nobility despises adulthood. This is in contrast to the False Left approach of attempting to portray "non-whites" as more mature than "whites".

The enemy article also includes a picture of Trollope:



See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg6238/?topicseen#msg6238

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I believe that Western civilization considers itself superior to non-Western civilizations in the same sense that adults consider themselves superior to children. And just as children have been mostly conditioned to agree that adults really are superior by accepting the adult standards of superiority, non-Western civilizations have similarly been mostly conditioned to agree that Western civilization is superior by accepting Western standards of superiority. Only we can see that the truth is the complete opposite.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 23, 2022, 08:08:16 pm »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-korean-piano-prodigy-yunchan-230715061.html

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South Korean piano prodigy Yunchan Lim becomes youngest ever to conquer prestigious Van Cliburn
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While Lim performed an expansive repertoire of works throughout the competition, from concertos by Beethoven and Mozart to Lizst’s “Transcendental Etudes,” his most groundbreaking performance was a riveting rendition of Rachmaninov’s “Piano Concerto No. 3,” which moved the piece’s legendary conductor Marin Alsop to tears.

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Actually, here are the top three (also countrywise a good sample of where Western civilization is most intactly preserved):

https://twitter.com/TheCliburn/status/1538329233478516736

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Announcing the medalists of the Sixteenth Van Cliburn International Piano Competition.

GOLD MEDALIST
Yunchan Lim / 임윤찬, South Korea, 18

SILVER MEDALIST
Anna Geniushene / Анна Генюшене, Russia, 31

BRONZE MEDALIST
Dmytro Choni / Дмитро Чоні, Ukraine, 28

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 14, 2022, 09:09:22 pm »

Good news!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-ai-giant-megviis-chief-093000513.html

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Sun Jian, the 45-year-old chief scientist of Chinese artificial intelligence (AI) firm Megvii Technology, died on Tuesday of a sudden illness, which the company did not specify.

"Dr Sun Jian has dedicated his whole life to scientific research. With his unfortunate passing, Megvii has lost a leader in the exploration of and innovation in the AI technology field," the facial recognition company said in a statement.
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Sun was named by MIT Technology Review on its Innovators under 35 list in 2010, and he was the recipient of a range of industry and academic awards. He also had 35 US patents to his name, 13 of which were registered internationally, most of them from his time at Microsoft.

Face:



All machinist bloodlines must be eliminated ASAP.
Posted by: rp
« on: May 29, 2022, 10:24:03 pm »


I was discussing the oblong face with Zea_Mays over email one time. Here is our dialogue:

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Whenever in doubt, I recommend going back to neoteny. While we agree that Oblong is less robust than Square, do you not think that Oblong is actually the LEAST neotenous of all the shapes, even less so than Square? I have seen children with Square, Pentagon, Round and Oval faces, but have you ever seen a child with an Oblong face? I haven't. Therefore Oblong could be viewed as a terminal group for selective pressure that minimizes neoteny.

From a face shape standpoint I agree Oblongs are the least neotenous (I've also never seen a child with such a shape), but if we also take into account somatotype, many Oblongs seem to be rather tall/skinny. This leads me to think that they must have at least some interplay with Ovals (who are the 'core' ectomorphic type). Perhaps Oblongs are a terminal group rather than a 'transition' group, but if shapes like the Square and Pentagon--which are associated with core racial groups--can transform, surely Oblongs could too?

Again let's look at how children's face shapes change as they become adults.

Square adults were Square or Round children.

Pentagon adults were Pentagon, Oval or Round children.

Oval adults were Oval, Round or Pentagon children. (Note that this is the same set as the Pentagon.)

Round adults were Round, Oval or Pentagon children. (Same set again.)

Oblong adults were Oval or Square children.

Not only is the Oblong the odd one out in terms of not being able to map onto itself, but also the Pentagon, Oval and Round taken together map onto themselves. This suggests to me that the Oblong is a dead end.


That is a very good argument. I suppose if I look at the transitions in a more "fluid" manner, then having shapes take a "detour" through a group like the Elongated Pentagon before transforming into Oval makes more sense than going directly through the Oblong.

It is interesting that you mention a connection between Rounds and Ovals. It is technically possible for an Oval to be reduced to a Round, although I'm not sure how common this is in real life.

Yes, consider school shooter Adam Lanza. Here is a picture of (pre-teen) Lanza, where he tends toward oval:


Contrast with adult Lanza, where he is clearly tending toward oblong: