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Posted by: 2ThaSun
« on: May 20, 2023, 11:14:05 am »

Egyptian outrage: Black Cleopatra?
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Controversy surrounds Queen Cleopatra VII's portrayal as a black African in a new Netflix docudrama series.  The debate over Cleopatra's race has sparked heated discussions, with conflicting opinions from historians, archaeologists, and the general public (plus Bassem Youssef!). In this video, we delve into the historical context of Cleopatra's life, the lack of concrete evidence about her ancestry and examine the accusations of erasing the Egyptian identity, as well as the casting choices and perspectives from the producer and actress. Join us as we unravel the complexities of Cleopatra's race and shed light on this intriguing and contentious topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeV26tPTfAA

Egyptian lawyer sues Netflix for depicting Cleopatra as Black woman
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An Egyptian lawyer has taken legal action against the popular streaming platform, Netflix. The lawyer filed a case with the Public Prosecutor calling for the closure of the platform after the release of the trailer for the upcoming movie, "Queen Cleopatra."

The film depicts the Greek historical figure as a black-skinned woman, a portrayal that has caused controversy and sparked outrage in Egypt.

The lawyer argues that the depiction is historically inaccurate and offensive to the Egyptian people.

According to Egypt Independent, Mahmoud al-Semary demanded that all legal measures be taken against those responsible for the documentary and the management of the streaming platform for its participation in “this crime.”

The complaint submitted against the streaming platform alleged that "most of what Netflix platform displays contradicts Islamic and societal values and principles, especially Egyptian ones.", Greek city times reported.

The case said that the documentary promotes Afrocentrism that is widely spread on social media, which have slogans and writings aimed at distorting and obliterating the Egyptian identity.

The complaint continued addressing Public Prosecution: "In order to preserve the Egyptian national and cultural identity among Egyptians all over the world… we ask and seek you to take the necessary legal measures against this platform."

It demanded stopping broadcasts showing all works aimed at obliterating and distorting the Egyptian identity, through films aimed at falsifying and distorting history in Egypt.
https://www.africanews.com/2023/04/20/egyptian-lawyer-sues-netflix-for-depicting-cleopatra-as-black-woman//
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: April 21, 2023, 05:00:55 pm »

Egyptian Eurocentrists expose themselves:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cleopatra-african-heritage-netflix-docudrama-112239434.html

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Netflix’s upcoming docudrama “Queen Cleopatra” in which Britain’s Adele James, who is of mixed heritage, plays the first-century Egyptian ruler as a queen with African roots is sparking an uproar in Egypt.

Egyptian academics are claiming that Cleopatra, who was born in the Egyptian city of Alexandria in 69 BC and belonged to a Greek-speaking dynasty, was of European descent and not Black. An Egyptian lawyer has reportedly filed a complaint demanding that legal measures are taken to block Netflix outright in Egypt, to prevent the show from airing.
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There is no doubt among scholars that Cleopatra was Macedonian-Greek on her father Ptolemy XII’s side. But since the ethnic origin of her mother is not known, some historians say it’s possible that the Egyptian ruler’s mother was African and, therefore, that she could have been of mixed heritage.

The version I grew up with:











I'm guessing the Egyptian Eurocentrists wouldn't like this version much either?
Posted by: HikariDude
« on: March 09, 2023, 03:34:40 pm »

Good idea. I'll also delete my note.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: March 09, 2023, 03:12:47 pm »

"Does the same apply for hate?"

Hate is not evolutionarily adaptive. Bullying is:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-aggressiveness/msg2342/?topicseen#msg2342

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-aggressiveness/msg3556/#msg3556

"Could that logic also apply for makeup?"

I stand by what I said in my quote.

"Ignore my accidental quotation"

Why not edit your own post to remove it?
Posted by: HikariDude
« on: March 09, 2023, 10:05:22 am »

Ignore my accidental quotation
Posted by: HikariDude
« on: March 09, 2023, 10:04:48 am »

"Not only did they get the face shapes, but they even got the clothing too."

"society continues to delusionally think of bullying as learned behaviour rather than simply the normal behaviour of bully bloodlines"

Does the same apply for hate?

"High sexual dimorphism is inferior. Low sexual dimorphism is superior. How the low sexual dimorphism is achieved is for different societies to decide (probably based on practical considerations such as humidity etc.)."

Could that logic also apply for makeup? Because it seems like the issue is not only sexual dimorphism:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg4434/#msg4434

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While I would disagree with someone who likes makeup on both males and females, I would not consider such a person aesthetically inferior as they at least have no gender-based double-standard. (I would consider still them ecologically/economically inferior, but that is a separate discussion.)

But looking at the NS Uniforms, uniformity seems just as important as the simplicity of dress. Maybe even more. And even with the western elements like collars and neckties, the uniforms still make up with its all black/brown/feldgrau theme. Agriculture fields are also just as superior.

Thanks for making it more clear. I apologize for asking so many questions, but I've been reading Aryanism and True Left since late 2010s that I have a lot of questions to ask.

*EDIT-This post was accidentally in quotations, so I edited it.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: March 08, 2023, 07:30:16 pm »

"Not only did they get the face shapes, but they even got the clothing too."

Sure, but I consider getting the face shapes more important, as the bullies' inferior clothes could be attributed (as False Leftists are prone to do) to what they learned from society, whereas their inferior face shapes can only be attributed to their blood. So long as society continues to delusionally think of bullying as learned behaviour rather than simply the normal behaviour of bully bloodlines, we will never end bullying. The only way to end bullying is to eliminate the bloodlines that produce bullies.

"even though you mentioned how superior long hair was here"

I did no such thing:

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I hardly need to remind everyone that in pre-colonial times, long hair (including mullets!) was the American standard for males as well as females:

My point is that a society which considers long hair acceptable for males as well as for females is superior to a society which considers long hair acceptable for females but not for males.

To be clear, a society that considers long hair acceptable for both males and females is not superior to a society that considers long hair unacceptable for either males or females.

High sexual dimorphism is inferior. Low sexual dimorphism is superior. How the low sexual dimorphism is achieved is for different societies to decide (probably based on practical considerations such as humidity etc.).

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg4533/#msg4533

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I naively assumed that female soldiers had always been allowed to have buzz cuts. If buzz cuts are considered the most practical hairstyle for male soldiers, why not for female soldiers also?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg5858/#msg5858

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Ever since I was a child, I did not understand why women's clothes did not have pockets while men's clothes did. Either pockets are a good idea, in which case they should be used by everyone, or they are a bad idea, in which case they should be used by no one.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg7599/#msg7599

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Either bikini bottoms are more efficient, in which case men should also wear them, or else shorts are more efficient, in which case women should also wear them.

"Wouldn't you mind short hair"

Of course not! I myself have promoted short hair in the past:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg13653/?topicseen#msg13653

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Posted by: HikariDude
« on: March 07, 2023, 09:38:05 pm »

"he even got the bullies' face shapes correct!"

Not only did they get the face shapes, but they even got the clothing too.

At 0:30, you'll see the girl on the right has a pleated skirt, a collared shirt, a visible necktie, earrings and for the hair, it looks pretty...graphic and even has a bow. The girl on the left has plain jeans, a basic shirt, hair that looks straight and unembellished and no earings.

At 1:16, you'll see the same girl with the teal cardigan next to a boy wearing a shirt with another visible collar and a sexually dimorphic haircut (still comparable with the girl on the left).

At 2:55 (which is the thumbnail), the man doing the pinching has a plain black outfit and hair where each strand is in harmony, while the one being pinched has a hair where the strands are all over the place.

At 3:18, the hair of the girl on the left is still as superior as it was before it was cut, and just like the man's hair, the strands of the girl's hair is simple and in uniformity. Not to mention their tops are also simple.

Just to be sure, does hair length matter? Because even though you mentioned how superior long hair was here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg10479/#msg10479

Wouldn't you mind short hair if it coincides with everyone else, if it's low in maintenance and if it's cut for more temporary reasons (e.g. emulating individuals, cutting split ends without changing its current length)?
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: March 07, 2023, 05:32:43 pm »

Support Yen!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/over-50-000-petition-bar-165909540.html

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Over 50,000 people have signed a petition demanding the Academy Awards Committee to withdraw its invitation to Donnie Yen to present an Oscar due to his support for the Chinese government.
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They cited the “John Wick: Chapter 4” actor’s comments on the Hong Kong pro-democracy protests of 2019, which he called a “riot” in an interview with GQ last month.
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The petition has amassed 52,256 signatures as of press time. One top comment reads, “He doesn’t stand up for freedom and democracy, which could violate the values of Oscar prizes.”

Yen deserves the invitation for this woke scene alone (he even got the bullies' face shapes correct!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdlJnfFq0jo
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 25, 2023, 04:59:00 pm »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariinsky_Ballet

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The Mariinsky Ballet was founded in the 1740s, following the formation of the first Russian dance school in 1738.

The Imperial Theatre School, as it was originally known, was established on 4 May 1738, at the Winter Palace in Saint Petersburg. It would become the predecessor of today's Vaganova Academy of Russian Ballet. The school's founder director was the French ballet master and teacher Jean-Baptiste Landé and the purpose of creating the school was to train young dancers to form the first Russian ballet company.

As the Imperial Russian Ballet, the company premiered numerous ballets by choreographer Marius Petipa. A number of his ballets now form the basis of the traditional classical ballet repertoire, performed by ballet companies around the world, and often retaining much of Petipa's choreography. These ballets include the original productions of The Nutcracker, The Sleeping Beauty, Don Quixote, La Bayadère, and Raymonda; and popular revivals of older ballets, including Coppélia, Giselle, and Le Corsaire.
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The Director of the Mariinsky Ballet is Yuri Fateyev.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Gergiev

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Gergiev has been, according to Alex Ross in The New Yorker, "a prominent supporter of the current Russian regime" of Vladimir Putin.
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In March 2014 he joined a host of other Russian arts and cultural figures in signing an open letter in support of the Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation.
Posted by: rp
« on: February 25, 2023, 04:04:46 pm »

Nutcracker Tea - "Chinese" Dance
https://youtu.be/iiyx1m44nMM

Just look at this blatant Orientalism and cultural appropriation
Cancel Nutcracker!
No, cancel ballet!
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 14, 2023, 05:34:31 pm »

https://www.france24.com/en/france/20230213-france-slams-marvel-s-black-panther-over-depiction-of-its-army-in-africa

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Paris' defence minister on Sunday condemned the latest instalment of Marvel's Black Panther franchise, which depicts French troops caught trying to steal resources belonging to the fictional African kingdom of Wakanda.

"I strongly condemn this false and deceptive representation of our armed forces," Sébastien Lecornu wrote on Twitter, responding to a clip from the November movie posted by a journalist.

False and deceptive?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/french-colonialism-in-algiers/msg4837/#msg4837

Related:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/when-it-comes-to-palestine-france-can't-shake-off-its-colonial-past/
Posted by: rp
« on: January 27, 2023, 10:45:50 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HWzNnOTaFY


Commercial currently being shown on Hong Kong television - typical Eurocentric physical attributes that Dolce & Gabbana employs to capture the non-white admirers of the white male.....
That guy is David Gandy, the guy literally worshipped on incel forums!
Posted by: rp
« on: January 11, 2023, 11:15:24 pm »

Has anybody watched this movie, RRR, yet? I just did. It is an anti-colonialist film that has gained international recognition. I found the action sequences to be overexaggerated, and wish more effort would have been put into story/character development, which I found lackluster. Perhaps this is why Westerners liked it so much. After all, serious anti-colonialism would never be appreciated by them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgBoMJy386M

Regardless, I commend the director for at least trying, and there are a few scenes that are really good IMO. I also like how it draws on religious mythology such as the Ramayana, in contrast to most Bollywood movies which shy away from drawing on religious themes for inspiration.
It also seems to exalt firearm ownership and ahimsa, instead of pacifist Eurocentrist tools like Gandhi.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 12, 2022, 10:13:25 pm »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mindy-kaling-other-south-asian-215721954.html

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Mindy Kaling, other South Asian comedians called out for perpetuating stereotypes
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Dhanani calls out Kaling and stand-up comedians Russell Peters and Lily Singh in particular:

    "If you're in America and you want to be racist against Black people, you can deep dive into the ancient tomes of racism and find a stereotype or a slur. Same with East Asians, same with Latinos. But if you want to make fun of South Asians, where do those insults usually come from? South Asian comedians," he says. "Mindy Kaling, Russell Peters, Lilly Singh, what do they talk about? Our parents talk funny and they beat us and we eat stinky food and we are stinky and there's hair all over."

Singh faced backlash in 2019 for comparing turbans to towels on her late-night show. Peters, who was the first comedian to have a Netflix stand-up special, is known for his imitations of Indian stereotypes, with his most famous bit being about his father's penchant for corporal punishment, which ends with his signature catchphrase: "Somebody gonna get a hurt real bad."

Dhanani says the popularity of comedians who promoted harmful South Asian stereotypes affected the way he was treated in high school.

He points out that audiences feel comfortable repeating these stereotypes "because a Brown person said it on TV."

"Russell Peters popped off when I was in high school, and I had white people coming up to me in the hallway and quoting Russell Peters and laughing about it," he explains.

"And I just played along! I laughed along, I added on, because that's how you fit in with white people. You let them laugh at you."
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The TikTok creator also calls out the popularity and use of "the voice," referring to an exaggerated Indian accent, by stand-up comedians.

Dhanani explains that a cousin of his who is a professional stand-up comedian on TikTok uses "the voice" in "every single one of her videos."

"In her stand-up routines, just like Lilly Singh, she does the voice to make fun of her parents. And just like Lilly Singh, her parents don't have that accent."

The part in bold is one of the most concise summaries of Eurocentrism that I have encountered to date.