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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 26, 2022, 11:11:17 pm »

Wakandism is the epitome of False Leftism:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/25/wakanda-forever-importance-black-girl-genius/

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what I was most struck by was how [Black Panther: Wakanda Forever] portrays Black girls and women and technology. It leads us to imagine a world in which Black girls are technological geniuses and the weapons that White men use are, in Gen. Okoye’s words, “so primitive.”

The part in bold is what False Leftism is all about.

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“Black Panther” is a bit of a technological-revenge fantasy. In the movie, the genius inventor is an American Black college student named Riri Williams, a.k.a. “Ironheart” (Dominique Thorne), who is studying at MIT. She develops a crucial piece of technology that everyone wants to get their hands on.
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Shuri, Riri and their respective technological geniuses are the true heroines of “Black Panther.”
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So, what if we lived in a world where Black girls were encouraged to be inventors in science and technology? Or where Black women could protect and benefit from their own creativity and genius?

If we lived in such a world, we would have to eliminate even more bloodlines in order to kill Western civilization.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: September 13, 2022, 01:36:07 am »

Gates will never stop being a progressive:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-technological-innovation-help-225859457.html

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Bill Gates: Technological innovation would help solve hunger
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In assigning technology a pre-eminent role in addressing the world’s food crisis, Gates puts himself at odds with critics who say his ideas conflict with worldwide efforts to protect the environment.
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Some researchers question the wisdom of pursuing the fundamental premise that Gates has embraced: Increasing agricultural production through the use of modified seeds along with fertilizers and pesticides.
They point to the environmental footprint of industrial agriculture, including the use of fossil fuel-based fertilizers, the degradation of soil quality and the diminishing of biodiversity.

The only way to solve the food crisis is orderly depopulation via state control over reproduction. In particular, all who think more innovation is the answer to problems created by previous innovation should be immediately prohibited from reproducing.
Posted by: rp
« on: September 05, 2022, 05:08:22 pm »

Indeed, fascists may also argue against ethnocentrism for similar reasons: recruiting across ethnic lines will help cultivate the ideal, sexually dimorphic, "ubermensch" candidate for space exploration.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: September 05, 2022, 04:42:46 pm »

False Leftists do not understand where "non-white" representation should be encouraged and where it should be discouraged. If they see more "white" than "non-white" firearm owners, they do not (unlike us) tell "non-whites" to buy more firearms. But if they see more "white" than "non-white" astronauts, they (unlike us) tell "non-whites" to become astronauts. Underneath it all, their chief concern is to get "non-whites" behaving in a way that does not cause "whites" to feel threatened. "Non-whites" with firearms will scare "whites", therefore "non-whites" should not have firearms. On the other hand, "non-whites" becoming astronauts will reassure "whites" that "non-whites" are just as capable of perpetuating Western civilization, therefore "non-whites" should become astronauts.

For True Leftists the answer is simple. It should be encouraged where the result is more likely to undermine Western civilization. It should be discouraged where the result is more likely to reinforce Western civilization. This leads us to the opposite conclusions.

"or that it is "fascist" or "ubermensch" in nature."

To clarify, fascists may not associate space exploration with "whiteness", "heterosexuality", etc., but fascists do like the idea of space exploration. Fascists would even argue that fascism is superior to identitarianism because it would recruit space exploration talent from wherever it can be found and thus have a stronger space program than identitarians with their narrower recruiting. This is why we are not fascists.
Posted by: rp
« on: September 05, 2022, 10:02:50 am »

Judeo-leftists criticize Ben Shapiro for mocking diversity in space exploration:
https://youtu.be/CsPzV4jEi04

I fully agree with the hosts' perception that Shapiro's conception of the archetypal space explorer is that of "thick necked straight white men". I disagree with the hosts that this archetype should be challenged because it is misrepresentative (it is not), or that it is "fascist" or "ubermensch" in nature.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: August 22, 2022, 05:13:12 pm »

More progressive foolishness:

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62581401

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First Native American woman to travel to space
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Astronaut Nicole Aunapu Mann, of the Wailacki of the Round Valley Indian Tribes, will be mission commander - responsible for all phases of flight.
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"I think it's important that we communicate this to our community, so that other Native kids... realise that some of those barriers that used to be there are really starting to get broken down," she added.

Why would anyone nostalgic for pre-colonial America even want to travel to space? Space travel is something brought to America by the Western occupiers FFS! Why are you adopting their values?

Here is a post to remind of of your history:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/how-did-the-english-colonize-america/msg15273/#msg15273

Continuing:

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Ms Mann says that in her allocated 3.3 lb (1.4kg) for personal items she will take "a dreamcatcher that my mother gave me when I was very young".

Spare us the pathetic prop signalling. If you were truly American you would have turned down the offer to travel to space in the first place, because the very idea of space travel never occurred in pre-colonial America. This is what you should be proud of.

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She has been deployed twice on aircraft carriers supporting combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan

As if we needed more evidence that you are a Westerner, not an American.

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In 2002, John Herrington, an enrolled member of the Chickasaw Nation, was the first Native American man to fly into space. He carried the Nation's flag and a traditional flute on his 13-day voyage.

This whole "let's ostentatiously do uniquely Western activities while carrying pre-colonial trinkets" is as cringeworthy as any behaviour gets.
Posted by: guest30
« on: June 24, 2022, 08:02:43 am »

@90sRetroFan

If we use Hitler's ideal environment. Then we will see the Afghanistan and all of nations on "Afrika" as the example today. Not the West which oftenly promoted by so-called "the civilized progressives." Hitler not want industrialism activity, only an community of nations full of renewable resources, no more buildings, no morefactories, only environment with meadow, plants, and natural scenery.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 22, 2022, 01:35:45 am »

"False Leftist "counterculture" Boomer"

Does Tiedrich self-identify as belonging to the Counterculture? If so, we should call him out publicly on it.

In any case, you left out the most important part:

https://www.newsunzip.com/wiki/jeff-tiedrich/

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Posted by: rp
« on: June 22, 2022, 01:11:41 am »

False Leftist "counterculture" Boomer wants income equality because it bolsters progressivism:


Compulsory schooling is child abuse.
Highways shouldn't exist because cars shouldn't even exist.
Cutting the poverty rate led to degenerate Westerners consuming more resources than they previously needed and thus more waste (not to mention population growth).
Technology is not always good, especially when machinists are the ones creating it.
Space travel is a nightmare that we are trying to avoid at all costs.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 21, 2022, 09:02:57 pm »

Vigeland explicitly repudiates one of the pillars of progressivism (from 5:00):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G9DvwaFzKQ

Good, she now understands that fighting is the only way to positive change. Rightists cannot be educated, persuaded or even reasoned with to agree with us, EVER:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/superiority-cannot-be-taught/

We only get concessions from them when we fight them and defeat them, and even then they will only regroup and fight us again to recover their losses. The next question I would ask her is: is fighting rightists over and over again just to hold our gains (or regain them after losing them) how we want to spend the rest of time? If not, then logically the way we should fight rightists is not just to defeat them, but to exterminate them. Not only is fighting our enemies the only way to positive change, but exterminating our enemies is the only way to lasting positive change.

Let's see if she can reach this next stage of conversion to True Leftism.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: May 29, 2022, 11:53:19 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvB0OoCMXcY

I side with Kasparian this time. Just walk FFS.
Posted by: Zea_mays
« on: May 14, 2022, 01:42:35 pm »

"Progressivism" will always be an inferior mindset for leftists, because it prevents leftists from tapping into attitudes and experiences like this:
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I hadn’t really considered the effect of consumerism until my late 30s, which is roughly when I joined the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Being in a medieval reenacting setting meant that I was given the opportunity to value the food I ate, tools I worked with, things I wore, because I was making my own tools/textiles/clothing/jewellery, etc.

It only took me a couple of months to start seeing everything around me through the lens of a craftsperson. I was appreciating the effort behind handcrafts more, and started shunning “disposable” items because there was an enormous portion of my life that those things wouldn’t fit into. And once you’ve made your own stuff, or bought it off another craftsperson, there’s a deeper connection to that item than I’d ever experienced before. I will prefer to use the things I have made sustainably to any plastic item.

Did anyone else have some type of event that triggered their shift to anti-consumption? If so, what was it?
https://old.reddit.com/r/Anticonsumption/comments/uauh6c/reenacting_helped_me_reduce_my_consumption/

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I definitely got that feeling from learning how to sew, with a focus on sewing historically inspired clothing. Really opened my eyes to how most modern clothing is trash from its very conception. Terrible fabrics, terrible tailoring, and terrible workmanship. I now lean towards thrifted clothes as at least they survived a few washes and there is more variety. Plus I tend towards tighter woven natural fabrics so any repairs I do will last.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Anticonsumption/comments/uauh6c/reenacting_helped_me_reduce_my_consumption/i600czi/

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To me, anticonsumption is not just about deciding not to buy things. It's about learning to relate to the physical world differently. You don't have to be a subsistence farmer, but learning skills like how to repair your own clothes or fix your appliances can go a long way.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Anticonsumption/comments/uauh6c/reenacting_helped_me_reduce_my_consumption/i6063wt/

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I've had a very similar experience. I haven't started re-enacting, yet. However, getting into the re-enacting scene; learning to make, grow, and reuse items myself; and learning how expensive and inaccessible even a fraction of our level of consumption and waste would have been to people just a hundred years ago is shocking. I have a much deeper respect for the objects I use and what I have access to, but I also respect the ingenuity of the people who came before us. I can't imagine going back to living life the way I used to. It just feels so wasteful.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Anticonsumption/comments/uauh6c/reenacting_helped_me_reduce_my_consumption/i614jui/
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: May 12, 2022, 08:54:52 pm »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/modern-world-cant-exist-without-100035723.html

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The Modern World Can't Exist Without These Four Ingredients. They All Require Fossil Fuels

The modern world was never meant to exist.

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Modern societies would be impossible without mass-scale production of many man-made materials. We could have an affluent civilization that provides plenty of food, material comforts, and access to good education and health care without any microchips or personal computers: we had one until the 1970s, and we managed, until the 1990s, to expand economies, build requisite infrastructures and connect the world by jetliners without any smartphones and social media. But we could not enjoy our quality of life without the provision of many materials required to embody the myriad of our inventions.

Before we get into the main discussion, compulsory schooling is not "good education". And jetliners should never have existed either.

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Four materials rank highest on the scale of necessity, forming what I have called the four pillars of modern civilization: cement, steel, plastics, and ammonia are needed in larger quantities than are other essential inputs. The world now produces annually about 4.5 billion tons of cement, 1.8 billion tons of steel, nearly 400 million tons of plastics, and 180 million tons of ammonia. But it is ammonia that deserves the top position as our most important material: its synthesis is the basis of all nitrogen fertilizers, and without their applications it would be impossible to feed, at current levels, nearly half of today’s nearly 8 billion people.

The planet should never have been populated by anywhere near 4 billion (let alone 8 billion) humans. Ammonia is the culprit!

Guess which civilization introduced ammonia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonia

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Gaseous ammonia was first isolated by Joseph Black in 1756 by reacting sal ammoniac (ammonium chloride) with calcined magnesia (magnesium oxide).[49][50] It was isolated again by Peter Woulfe in 1767,[51][52] by Carl Wilhelm Scheele in 1770[53] and by Joseph Priestley in 1773 and was termed by him "alkaline air".[20][54] Eleven years later in 1785, Claude Louis Berthollet ascertained its composition.[55][20]
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Ammonia even at dilute concentrations is highly toxic to aquatic animals, and for this reason it is classified as dangerous for the environment.

Back to first link:

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This dependence easily justifies calling ammonia synthesis the most momentous technical advance in history: other inventions provide our comforts, convenience or wealth or prolong our lives—but without the synthesis of ammonia, we could not ensure the very survival of billions of people alive today and yet to be born.

Of course we can. Just stop using crops to raise meat/egg/milk/etc. animals and the surplus will more than offset the loss from not using ammonia.

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Plastics are a large group of synthetic organic materials whose common quality is that they can be molded into desired shapes—and they are now everywhere. As I type this, the keys of my Dell laptop and a wireless mouse under my right palm are made of acrylonitrile butadiene styrene, I sit on a swivel chair upholstered in a polyester fabric, and its nylon wheels rest on a polycarbonate carpet protection mat that covers a polyester carpet. But plastics are now most indispensable in health care in general and in hospitals in particular. Life now begins (in maternity wards) and ends (in intensive care units) surrounded by plastic items made above all from different kinds of PVC: flexible tubes (for feeding patients, delivering oxygen, and monitoring blood pressure), catheters, intravenous containers, blood bags, sterile packaging, trays and basins, bedpans and bed rails, thermal blankets.

Not to mention:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/msg12279/#msg12279

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/msg12544/#msg12544

Continuing:

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Steel’s strength, durability, and versatility determines the look of modern civilization and enables its most fundamental functions. This is the most widely used metal and it forms countless visible and invisible critical components of modern civilization, from skyscrapers to scalpels. Moreover, nearly all other metallic and non-metallic products we use have been extracted, processed, shaped, finished, and distributed with tools and machines made of steel, and no mode of today’s mass transportation could function without steel. The average car contains about 900 kilograms of steel and before Covid-19 struck the world was making nearly 100 million vehicles a year.

Cars should never have existed either.

As for skyscrapers:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/msg39/#msg39

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    According to FLAP, between one and nine million birds die each year in the city from hitting skyscrapers due to mistaking reflective windows for open sky, or being drawn to lights at night.[1]

    According to a 2014 article in the ornithological journal Condor, an estimated 365 million to 988 million birds die each year by colliding into buildings in the United States.[2]

Back to first link:

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Cement is, of course, the key component of concrete: combined with sand, gravel and water it makes the most massively deployed material. Modern cities are embodiments of concrete, as are bridges, tunnels, roads, dams, runways and ports.

We do not need to build any more. We should be gradually abandoning more and more buildings along with reducing population.

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And these four materials, so unlike in their properties and qualities, share three common traits: they are not readily replaceable by other materials (certainly not in the near future or on a global scale); we will need much more of them in the future; and their mass-scale production depends heavily on the combustion of fossil fuels, making them major sources of greenhouse gas emissions. Organic fertilizers cannot replace synthetic ammonia: their low nitrogen content and their worldwide mass are not enough even if all manures and crop residues were recycled. No other materials offer such advantages for many lightweight yet durable uses as plastics. No other metal is as affordably strong as steel. No other mass-produced material is as suitable for building strong infrastructure as concrete (often reinforced with steel).

The correct answer is to reduce population and thus reduce demand.

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Moreover, the unfolding transition to renewable energies will demand huge amounts of steel, concrete and plastics. No structures are more obvious symbols of “green” electricity generation than large wind turbines—but their foundations are reinforced concrete, their towers, nacelles, and rotors are steel, and their massive blades are energy-intensive—and difficult to recycle—plastic resins, and all of these giant parts must be brought to the installation sites by outsized trucks (or ships) and erected by large steel cranes, and turbine gearboxes must be repeatedly lubricated with oil. These turbines would generate truly green electricity only if all of these materials were made without any fossil fuels.

With a reduced population, fewer additional turbines will need to be built. Heck, reduce population enough and existing turbines might already be enough!

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And beyond these four material pillars new and highly energy-intensive material dependencies are emerging and electric cars are their best example A typical lithium car battery weighing about 450 kilograms contains about 11 kilograms of lithium, nearly 14 kilograms of cobalt, 27 kilograms of nickel, more than 40 kilograms of copper, and 50 kilograms of graphite—as well as about 181 kilograms of steel, aluminum, and plastics. Supplying these materials for a single vehicle requires processing about 40 tons of ores, and given the low concentration of many elements in their ores it necessitates extracting and processing about 225 tons of raw materials. And aggressive electrification of road transport would soon require multiplying these needs by tens of millions of units per year!

Lower population means fewer people needing transportation. This is the only correct answer.

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Modern economies will always be tied to massive material flows, whether those of ammonia-based fertilizers to feed the still-growing global population; plastics, steel, and cement needed for new tools, machines, structures, and infrastructures; or new inputs required to produce solar cells, wind turbines, electric cars, and storage batteries. And until all energies used to extract and process these materials come from renewable conversions, modern civilization will remain fundamentally dependent on the fossil fuels used in the production of these indispensable materials. No artificial intelligence designs, no apps, no claims of coming “dematerialization” will change that.

Prohibiting most people from reproducing is all that is needed to change it.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: April 25, 2022, 09:27:36 pm »

The worst of False Leftism:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/no-black-and-asian-people-do-not-resent-e2-80-98western-achievements-e2-80-99-we-made-them-possible/ar-AAWwIZx

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No, Black and Asian people do not resent ‘Western achievements.’ We made them possible.

Those who do resent Western achievements, such as ourselves, would never call ourselves "black" or "Asian" (Western terms) in the first place.

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Why would we resent something that we have contributed significantly to?

Because we we were forced to contribute to it?

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Historically, the U.S. has relied heavily on the labor of people of color and immigrants for its economy. Enslaved Black people were responsible for the growth of America’s economy in the 19th century. Slavery has been called the economic engine of the South, which at one point was the source of the majority of cotton used in Britain, France and Russia. By the start of the Civil War, the South was profiting handsomely from the labor of enslaved Black people.

Are you arguing that we should not resent slavery just because slavery ended up contributing to the economy of a civilization that added a lot of machines to the world?

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Around the same time as the war, in the early to mid-1860s, the Central Pacific Railroad was recruiting Chinese laborers to work on the country’s first transcontinental railroad after an insufficient number of white workers responded to its ads. Doing extremely dangerous and exhausting work while being paid less than their white counterparts, these estimated 15,000 to 20,000 Chinese migrants were essential to what has been described as “one of the most ambitious American engineering enterprises at the time” — despite the lack of recognition they receive even to this day.

Are you arguing that we should not resent being unfairly paid for dangerous work, again just because this ended up contributing to the economy of a civilization that added a lot of machines to the world? (What happened to rail travel in the US, by the way? It was soon sidelined by newer modes of transport such as cars and planes. This is how Western civilization ultimately repaid the railroad labourers. Should we not resent this?)

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The man behind Zoom, the video conferencing platform that most of us have depended on to work from home during the pandemic, is Eric Yuan, an Asian man who immigrated to the U.S. from China in 1997. Baiju Bhatt, an Indian American entrepreneur, is one of the co-founders and the chief creative officer of Robinhood, the commission-free trading app that has made investing in and trading stocks and other financial assets more accessible to the masses and has been valued at $32 billion. As its name suggests, Beats by Dr. Dre, which Apple acquired in 2014 for a record $3 billion and is one of the most recognizable headphone brands on the market, was created by Dr. Dre — a Black American rapper, producer and entrepreneur from Compton, California — with business partner Jimmy Iovine.

Many more such examples exist of both Asian Americans — who “drive Silicon Valley innovation,” according to a 2016 Nikkei Asia article — and Black Americans, who have succeeded despite the lack of support from Silicon Valley investors.

These particular individuals probably do not resent Western civilization, but only because they have personally profited from it. Are you arguing, therefore, that personal profit should be considered more important than ethical principles?

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In this day and age, when the global community is so interconnected and constantly collaborating, the term “Western achievements” feels outdated. The East-West divide that Wax’s rhetoric perpetuates is unnecessary and dangerous, as it could enforce stereotypes about differences that are not accurate and fan the flames of xenophobia.

No, I welcome Wax's use of the term "Western achievements". I only disagree with Wax in that I would prefer Western achievements to never have occurred. Both Wax and I would argue that if the same individuals behind Zoom, Robinhood, etc. had been born in an alternate world in which Western civilization had never existed, they would not have come up with Zoom, Robinhood, etc.. The difference is that I would prefer the alternate world to have been our reality. In practice, this means I want to destroy Western civilization so that the rest of us can return to a lifestyle more like what we had before the colonial era.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 24, 2022, 11:57:49 pm »

https://us.yahoo.com/news/decision-invade-ukraine-raises-questions-185646957.html

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Vladimir Ashurkov, a close aide of Alexei Navalny, Putin’s most prominent opponent who is now in a penal colony, described Monday’s rambling speech by the Russian president about Ukraine as “really bizarre”.

“It’s unprecedented in the rhetoric of world leaders, but also for Russia. It’s quite strange,” said Ashurkov, who is executive director of Navalny Anti-Corruption Foundation, and lives in exile.

“Why would you spend so much time, you know, looking back into the past, when we now live in the 21st century? We should be looking into the future.
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“I think he’s in some sort of self-induced concept of reality that is very revanchist, based in the past, and in the trauma of the dissolution of Soviet Union,”
he said.

Well, Putin is connecting himself to the past, and he is also currently running circles around the False Left politicians who are not. So instead of complaining about Putin's connection to the past, we should be replacing False Left politicians with True Left politicians who understand that a rightist connected to the past can only be defeated by a leftist connected to the past.