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Posted by: SirGalahad
« on: December 11, 2022, 01:05:08 am »

@90sRetroFan This breed of false leftist is actually even worse than your comment implies. These kinds of people who circlejerk about how how great scientific progress is could very easily start promoting yet another option that we haven't mentioned yet: testing on confirmed human criminals. But they don't. Why? Because they're so disgustingly anthropocentric that testing on any human, even the worst of them, is considered "barbaric" and an atrocity, yet it's totally fine to test on a non-human who has done no wrong besides being born as the wrong species. And trying to get these people to see their humanist hypocrisy will get you nowhere. 9 times out of 10, they'll just start harping on endlessly about "human rights", failing to see the bigger picture
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 10, 2022, 09:19:58 pm »

Continuing from:

progressive commenters defend Musk using typical progressive reasoning:

did anyone think that a brain implant would be approved without animal testing?

As much as it may feel heartless I would prefer there being a phase of animal testing on most scientific things that will alter a person from medicine to technology before moving to humans, whats the alternative?

So you'd rather go right to human testing? Or skip human testing and just put out a product (which is just large scale human testing)? Get a clue, live in the real world for a while

Should we just implant electrical devices in paralyzed humans and 'see what it does'?

Animals have always been used for testing, there is often no other way without using humans.

In short, don't even consider the anti-progressive possibility of (*gasp!*) not developing the new machine in the first place. The only choices are: 1) progress without animal testing; or 2) progress with animal testing.

The following potentially leftist commenter is deeply confused:

2022 and we’re still testing on animals and eating food from factory farms. Sure seems like society is going in the wrong direction

"Still"?! It was in pre-modern times when we weren't testing on animals or eating from factory ranches (both of which came from post-Renaissance Western civilization). Yes, society is going in the wrong direction, but the correct direction is backwards!

At least some Musk fans realize that it is leftists (as opposed to progressives) who dislike Musk:

Well, folks, here they come! Now we're seeing the full court press on Musk from the left.

so hopefully more people will learn the difference between leftism and progressivism.
Posted by: rp
« on: December 07, 2022, 06:54:01 pm »

U.S. Tech Workers, a project of the anti-immigrant group Progressives for Immigration Reform (PFIR), has ties to an anti-immigrant hate network and unprecedented access to the Trump administration.
The group’s primary function is lobbying. Founded in 2018, they advocate for the curtailment of the H-1B visa program on the basis that employers systematically abuse the program, thereby harming both American and international tech workers.

Other labor-focused organizations, such as the International Labor Recruitment Working Group, have also highlighted the systemic abuses committed by employers who utilize this specific visa program. However, a closer look at the staff and funds of U.S. Tech Workers illuminates its ties to the anti-immigrant movement.

SPLC's Hatewatch Staff collected the information presented in the graph from the following organizations' websites: The Foundation Center, Progressives for Immigration Reform, U.S. Tech Workers, Doctors without Jobs, Center for Progressive Urban Politics, VDARE and the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
One of U.S. Tech Workers’ writers is Joe Guzzardi, a man with ties to the anti-immigrant network founded by white nationalist and eugenicist John Tanton. Guzzardi serves on the national board of advisors for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), an anti-immigrant hate group Tanton started in 1979. In addition to serving as a FAIR national board advisor, Guzzardi is a writer and analyst at PFIR. PFIR began in 2009, with founders contending that blocking immigrants from coming into the U.S. protects the environment because immigrants are to blame for urban sprawl, traffic congestion and other issues.

Prior to his current roles, Guzzardi directed media relations at Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS), a state-level anti-immigrant hate group founded by white nationalist Garrett Hardin, for nearly a decade. From 2001 to 2010, Guzzardi authored approximately 738 blogs for VDARE, a white nationalist hate website founded by Peter Brimelow.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 26, 2022, 11:11:17 pm »

Wakandism is the epitome of False Leftism:

what I was most struck by was how [Black Panther: Wakanda Forever] portrays Black girls and women and technology. It leads us to imagine a world in which Black girls are technological geniuses and the weapons that White men use are, in Gen. Okoye’s words, “so primitive.”

The part in bold is what False Leftism is all about.

“Black Panther” is a bit of a technological-revenge fantasy. In the movie, the genius inventor is an American Black college student named Riri Williams, a.k.a. “Ironheart” (Dominique Thorne), who is studying at MIT. She develops a crucial piece of technology that everyone wants to get their hands on.
Shuri, Riri and their respective technological geniuses are the true heroines of “Black Panther.”
So, what if we lived in a world where Black girls were encouraged to be inventors in science and technology? Or where Black women could protect and benefit from their own creativity and genius?

If we lived in such a world, we would have to eliminate even more bloodlines in order to kill Western civilization.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: September 13, 2022, 01:36:07 am »

Gates will never stop being a progressive:

Bill Gates: Technological innovation would help solve hunger
In assigning technology a pre-eminent role in addressing the world’s food crisis, Gates puts himself at odds with critics who say his ideas conflict with worldwide efforts to protect the environment.
Some researchers question the wisdom of pursuing the fundamental premise that Gates has embraced: Increasing agricultural production through the use of modified seeds along with fertilizers and pesticides.
They point to the environmental footprint of industrial agriculture, including the use of fossil fuel-based fertilizers, the degradation of soil quality and the diminishing of biodiversity.

The only way to solve the food crisis is orderly depopulation via state control over reproduction. In particular, all who think more innovation is the answer to problems created by previous innovation should be immediately prohibited from reproducing.
Posted by: rp
« on: September 05, 2022, 05:08:22 pm »

Indeed, fascists may also argue against ethnocentrism for similar reasons: recruiting across ethnic lines will help cultivate the ideal, sexually dimorphic, "ubermensch" candidate for space exploration.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: September 05, 2022, 04:42:46 pm »

False Leftists do not understand where "non-white" representation should be encouraged and where it should be discouraged. If they see more "white" than "non-white" firearm owners, they do not (unlike us) tell "non-whites" to buy more firearms. But if they see more "white" than "non-white" astronauts, they (unlike us) tell "non-whites" to become astronauts. Underneath it all, their chief concern is to get "non-whites" behaving in a way that does not cause "whites" to feel threatened. "Non-whites" with firearms will scare "whites", therefore "non-whites" should not have firearms. On the other hand, "non-whites" becoming astronauts will reassure "whites" that "non-whites" are just as capable of perpetuating Western civilization, therefore "non-whites" should become astronauts.

For True Leftists the answer is simple. It should be encouraged where the result is more likely to undermine Western civilization. It should be discouraged where the result is more likely to reinforce Western civilization. This leads us to the opposite conclusions.

"or that it is "fascist" or "ubermensch" in nature."

To clarify, fascists may not associate space exploration with "whiteness", "heterosexuality", etc., but fascists do like the idea of space exploration. Fascists would even argue that fascism is superior to identitarianism because it would recruit space exploration talent from wherever it can be found and thus have a stronger space program than identitarians with their narrower recruiting. This is why we are not fascists.
Posted by: rp
« on: September 05, 2022, 10:02:50 am »

Judeo-leftists criticize Ben Shapiro for mocking diversity in space exploration:

I fully agree with the hosts' perception that Shapiro's conception of the archetypal space explorer is that of "thick necked straight white men". I disagree with the hosts that this archetype should be challenged because it is misrepresentative (it is not), or that it is "fascist" or "ubermensch" in nature.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: August 22, 2022, 05:13:12 pm »

More progressive foolishness:

First Native American woman to travel to space
Astronaut Nicole Aunapu Mann, of the Wailacki of the Round Valley Indian Tribes, will be mission commander - responsible for all phases of flight.
"I think it's important that we communicate this to our community, so that other Native kids... realise that some of those barriers that used to be there are really starting to get broken down," she added.

Why would anyone nostalgic for pre-colonial America even want to travel to space? Space travel is something brought to America by the Western occupiers FFS! Why are you adopting their values?

Here is a post to remind of of your history:


Ms Mann says that in her allocated 3.3 lb (1.4kg) for personal items she will take "a dreamcatcher that my mother gave me when I was very young".

Spare us the pathetic prop signalling. If you were truly American you would have turned down the offer to travel to space in the first place, because the very idea of space travel never occurred in pre-colonial America. This is what you should be proud of.

She has been deployed twice on aircraft carriers supporting combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan

As if we needed more evidence that you are a Westerner, not an American.

In 2002, John Herrington, an enrolled member of the Chickasaw Nation, was the first Native American man to fly into space. He carried the Nation's flag and a traditional flute on his 13-day voyage.

This whole "let's ostentatiously do uniquely Western activities while carrying pre-colonial trinkets" is as cringeworthy as any behaviour gets.
Posted by: guest30
« on: June 24, 2022, 08:02:43 am »


If we use Hitler's ideal environment. Then we will see the Afghanistan and all of nations on "Afrika" as the example today. Not the West which oftenly promoted by so-called "the civilized progressives." Hitler not want industrialism activity, only an community of nations full of renewable resources, no more buildings, no morefactories, only environment with meadow, plants, and natural scenery.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 22, 2022, 01:35:45 am »

"False Leftist "counterculture" Boomer"

Does Tiedrich self-identify as belonging to the Counterculture? If so, we should call him out publicly on it.

In any case, you left out the most important part:

Posted by: rp
« on: June 22, 2022, 01:11:41 am »

False Leftist "counterculture" Boomer wants income equality because it bolsters progressivism:

Compulsory schooling is child abuse.
Highways shouldn't exist because cars shouldn't even exist.
Cutting the poverty rate led to degenerate Westerners consuming more resources than they previously needed and thus more waste (not to mention population growth).
Technology is not always good, especially when machinists are the ones creating it.
Space travel is a nightmare that we are trying to avoid at all costs.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: June 21, 2022, 09:02:57 pm »

Vigeland explicitly repudiates one of the pillars of progressivism (from 5:00):

Good, she now understands that fighting is the only way to positive change. Rightists cannot be educated, persuaded or even reasoned with to agree with us, EVER:

We only get concessions from them when we fight them and defeat them, and even then they will only regroup and fight us again to recover their losses. The next question I would ask her is: is fighting rightists over and over again just to hold our gains (or regain them after losing them) how we want to spend the rest of time? If not, then logically the way we should fight rightists is not just to defeat them, but to exterminate them. Not only is fighting our enemies the only way to positive change, but exterminating our enemies is the only way to lasting positive change.

Let's see if she can reach this next stage of conversion to True Leftism.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: May 29, 2022, 11:53:19 pm »

I side with Kasparian this time. Just walk FFS.
Posted by: Zea_mays
« on: May 14, 2022, 01:42:35 pm »

"Progressivism" will always be an inferior mindset for leftists, because it prevents leftists from tapping into attitudes and experiences like this:
I hadn’t really considered the effect of consumerism until my late 30s, which is roughly when I joined the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Being in a medieval reenacting setting meant that I was given the opportunity to value the food I ate, tools I worked with, things I wore, because I was making my own tools/textiles/clothing/jewellery, etc.

It only took me a couple of months to start seeing everything around me through the lens of a craftsperson. I was appreciating the effort behind handcrafts more, and started shunning “disposable” items because there was an enormous portion of my life that those things wouldn’t fit into. And once you’ve made your own stuff, or bought it off another craftsperson, there’s a deeper connection to that item than I’d ever experienced before. I will prefer to use the things I have made sustainably to any plastic item.

Did anyone else have some type of event that triggered their shift to anti-consumption? If so, what was it?

I definitely got that feeling from learning how to sew, with a focus on sewing historically inspired clothing. Really opened my eyes to how most modern clothing is trash from its very conception. Terrible fabrics, terrible tailoring, and terrible workmanship. I now lean towards thrifted clothes as at least they survived a few washes and there is more variety. Plus I tend towards tighter woven natural fabrics so any repairs I do will last.

To me, anticonsumption is not just about deciding not to buy things. It's about learning to relate to the physical world differently. You don't have to be a subsistence farmer, but learning skills like how to repair your own clothes or fix your appliances can go a long way.

I've had a very similar experience. I haven't started re-enacting, yet. However, getting into the re-enacting scene; learning to make, grow, and reuse items myself; and learning how expensive and inaccessible even a fraction of our level of consumption and waste would have been to people just a hundred years ago is shocking. I have a much deeper respect for the objects I use and what I have access to, but I also respect the ingenuity of the people who came before us. I can't imagine going back to living life the way I used to. It just feels so wasteful.