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Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: April 10, 2024, 03:34:45 pm »

Update:

https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/politics-power/state-government/key-bridge-name-change-naacp-UH3RVRTRS5AIVAA4DS34EYPONM/

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The caucus is now calling on Gov. Wes Moore and the Maryland General Assembly to rename the bridge after the late U.S. Rep. Parren J. Mitchell, the first African American from Maryland elected to the U.S. House of Representatives.

The caucus is also asking that the Senator Frederick Malkus Memorial Bridge, a beam bridge over the Choptank River in Dorchester County, be renamed for the late Gloria Richardson, a Civil Rights pioneer and leader in Maryland. The late Gov. Harry R. Hughes opposed naming the bridge for Malkus, who was resistant to desegregation in the 1960s and 1970s, according to the group.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: April 01, 2024, 08:52:36 pm »

https://www.theroot.com/rebuild-the-francis-scott-key-bridge-in-baltimore-but-1851368486

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When the Bridge in MD is Rebuilt, Rename it Because Francis Scott Key Was a Slave Owner
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Yep, Key had that colonial fever. He bought his first slave in 1800 or 1801. Even at that long-ago date, slavery had ceased being an unquestioned aspect of American life.

There were people who questioned its morality, abhorred its horrors. Key bought a few more Black people during his life and had seven or eight when he died in 1843.
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“Are you willing, gentlemen, to abandon your country, to permit it to be taken from you, and occupied by the abolitionist, according to whose taste it is to associate and amalgamate with the negro? Or, gentlemen, on the other hand, are there laws in this community to defend you from the immediate abolitionist, who would open upon you the floodgates of such extensive wickedness and mischief?”

Let me say that in 2024 words:

“White men, ya’ll sure you want to have your country taken from you and occupied by N-lovers, who might well want you and your women to get with them Ns? Or, are there laws in the country to stop them crazy N-lovers from unleashing those Ns on you and yours?”

That Key’s argument wasn’t successful doesn’t free him from the shackle of having made it. And, of course, there are those Black people he bought and owned.

So, when the new bridge spans the Patapsco, name it something other than the Key Bridge.

Lots of Americans — hell, lots of Marylanders — are far more worthy of the honor. Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglass immediately come to mind.

Hell, we don’t even have to go back that far. What about Thurgood Marshall? Or the late congressman, Elijah Cummings?
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: March 05, 2024, 01:00:23 am »

Success:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/04/sir-walter-raleigh-sir-francis-drake-names-exeter-school/

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A private school has pledged to remove the names of Sir Walter Raleigh and Sir Francis Drake from its buildings in an “inclusivity” drive.

Parents at Exeter School in Devon were told that the Elizabethan naval heroes no longer “represent the values and inclusive nature” of the school.
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Raleigh was a colonialist who failed to establish a British settlement in North Carolina because of hostile relations with Native Americans.
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Drake took part in voyages with his cousin, Sir John Hawkins, which saw the capture of black African slaves.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 12, 2024, 03:45:12 pm »

https://mainemorningstar.com/2024/02/07/maine-grapples-with-renaming-racial-and-ethnic-slurs-in-place-names/

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At least 16 places in Maine have names that include racial or ethnic slurs, although by law many were supposed to be eradicated decades ago
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In 1977, Maine’s first Black state legislator Gerald Talbot sponsored a bill that prohibited the use of the n-word in the names of places, and in 2000, Passamaquoddy Tribal Representative Donald Soctomah got a bill passed eradicating from place names the sq-slur, a racist term for a Native American woman.

However, Talbot’s daughter, House Speaker Rep. Rachel Talbot Ross (D-Portland), discovered in 2020 that her father’s bill had not been effectively enforced, nor had Soctomah’s measure. Several islands and other sites still illegally had names that bore slurs against Black people and Native American women.

Talbot Ross was behind a 2022 law intended to rectify noncompliance, tasking the Permanent Commission to create a council to identify remaining offensive place names. While Maine has been ahead of the curve in outlawing slurs from place names, the continued existence of offensive names in the state show oversight is still lacking.
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“When my father put in his landmark bill, he made a speech on the House floor that asked the state legislature if it was right for his kids to be raised in a state in which they could look at the names of mountains and rivers and streams that actually use the derogatory N-word,”
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The Place Justice Advisory Council found 163 places in Maine named after Indigenous people. “In these cases, which might at first appear to honor these individuals, what we have to ask is ‘Who did the naming?’” questioned Meadow Dibble, a project lead on the research. “Often what is being celebrated is people’s deaths, rather than honoring them.”

This. (Answer: probably a Western occupier.)
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 15, 2023, 04:38:23 pm »

Our enemies complain about our latest success:

https://vdare.com/posts/great-replacement-rumbles-on-minneapolis-s-patrick-henry-high-school-now-93-non-white-will-change-name-to-no-longer-honor-a-dead-white-male

They even included a photo which shows the American (ie. non-Western) campus architecture:



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If renaming one kindergarten bearing Anne Frank's name shows "the threat to Jews today", then what does renaming hundreds of schools, buildings, and streets bearing White people's names suggest about the threat posed to them in their own homelands?

These are not your homelands, occupier.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 06, 2023, 05:15:38 pm »

Montana becomes more American:

https://www.ktvh.com/news/montana-landmarks-named-after-confederate-president-renamed

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The U.S. Geological Survey’s Board on Geographic Names approved the renaming of three geographic features that had been named after Confederate President Jefferson Davis.
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Two of the features were given traditional Salish names, the third was named in honor of a Salish chief.

The board renamed Jeff Davis Gulch just outside Helena in Lewis and Clark County to In-qu-qu-leet Gulch, a rough phonetic rendering of the Salish word that means "Place of Lodgepole Pine." Jeff Davis Creek in Beaverhead County has been renamed Doyavinai Baa O’ogwaide which means “water flowing from the mountain creek."

Jeff Davis Peak in Broadwater County will now be called Three Eagles Peak. According to the Char Kooosta News, Three Eagles is named after a Salish chief from the late 1700s.

Posted by: rp
« on: December 01, 2023, 04:37:05 pm »

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 30, 2023, 03:39:56 pm »

Our enemies complain:

https://vdare.com/posts/erasing-america-non-whites-in-montgomery-county-seek-to-rename-francis-scott-key-middle-school-because-he-was-a-white-racist-and-slaveowner

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Wait until they find out Francis Scott Key was one of the founders of the American Colonization Society, an organization replete with some of America’s greatest white men of the 19th century, which had the aim of removing blacks from the United States.
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According to MoCo360, the review found the schools named after slaver owners are: Montgomery Blair High School in Silver Spring; Francis Scott Key Middle School in Silver Spring; Col. Zadok Magruder High School in Derwood; Richard Montgomery High School in Rockville; John Poole Middle School in Poolesville and Thomas S. Wootton High School in Rockville.

A recent Fall 2023 report from Montgomery County’s Periodical for Historical Research added a seventh school to the list—Julius West Middle School.

In February, members of the Magruder High School community filed a petition to rename the school because the school’s namesake ‘does not meet the acceptable criteria for a school name,’ reported The Washington Post.

Magruder, a founding father of Montgomery County and Revolutionary War officer, reported he had 26 enslaved people on his property on the 1790 Census.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 14, 2023, 07:46:06 pm »

Good catch!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12742845/Astronomers-call-Large-Small-Magellanic-Clouds-renamed-amid-claims-namesake-violent-colonialist-legacy.html

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Astronomers say the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds should be given a new title because of their namesake's 'violent colonialist legacy'.

The dwarf galaxies, visible to the naked eye from the Southern Hemisphere, have been known about for more than 1,000 years after being spotted by indigenous peoples across South America, Australia, and Africa.

But they are named after the 16th-century Portuguese explorer Ferdinand Magellan, who claimed to have discovered them with his crew during his first circumnavigation of the globe between 1519 and 1522.
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Mia de los Reyes, an assistant professor of astronomy at Amherst College, Massachusetts, branded Magellan 'a coloniser, a slaver and a murderer'.

She added that he was 'no astronomer', nor was he the first to discover the galaxies because indigenous peoples had 'names and legends for these systems that predate Magellan by thousands of years'.

Professor de los Reyes said she and 'a coalition of astronomers' were calling for the scientific community to rename the clouds, 'as well as other astronomical objects, institutions, and facilities that bear his name'.   

A lunar crater, a Martian crater, NASA's Magellan spacecraft, the twin Magellan telescopes in Chile and the next-generation telescope under construction – called the Giant Magellan Telescope – are all named after the explorer.

'I and many other astronomers believe that astronomical objects and facilities should not be named after Magellan, or after anyone else with a violent colonialist legacy,' Professor de los Reyes wrote in the American Physical Society journal.

She said the explorer had murdered, enslaved and burned the homes of indigenous people during his circumnavigation, while also placing iron manacles on the 'youngest and best proportioned men' in what is now Argentina.
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The very first recorded mention of the Large Magellanic Cloud was by Persian astronomer Shirazi, in his Book of Fixed Stars around 964 AD.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 02, 2023, 03:46:26 pm »

Previously:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/name-decolonization/msg728/#msg728

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what does it say about a civilization that sees no problem with naming birds after the first humans who shot them?? Answer: it is Western. This story really succinctly captures how Western civilization interacts with everything it comes into contact with. The initiated violence, the utter lack of respect, the reflexive hubris, all in one package.
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here is a False Leftist on the issue:

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    Should any birds be named after people? Some birders, like Nick Lund, didn’t want to end the honorific process altogether. “It’s fun to honor people, and add a sense of history,” he wrote at The Birdist, while stressing that offensive names should be changed. “If there's a bird named after some guy and it turns out that guy was a huge racist jerk, change the name!”

Lund may be against racism, but he is still a Westerner because he thinks it is "fun" to name non-humans after humans. A True Leftist, on the other hand, is effortlessly aware that it is disrespectful.

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    Birders like Philadelphia’s Tony Croasdale have created lists of revised names, redubbing animals like Rivoli’s Hummingbird to Majestic Hummingbird or Harris’s Hawk to Pack-hunting Hawk.

Success:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/11/01/bird-names-racism-audubon/

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After two years of discussion and debate, the nation’s premier birding organization has decided that birds should not have human names.
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The American Ornithological Society announced Wednesday that it will remove names given to North American birds in honor of people and replace them with monikers that better describe their plumage and other characteristics. The group said it will prioritize birds whose names trace to enslavers, white supremacists and robbers of Indigenous graves.
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Not every birder in the 2,700-member society is expected to welcome the news. Some who’ve memorized names established for more than a century are likely to push back. “Are we expecting that people won’t agree with this decision—sure,” Morris said. “But we’re proud of this decision.”

The American Ornothological Society just became more authentically American (ie. non-Western).
Posted by: Zhang Caizhi
« on: November 01, 2023, 12:19:48 am »

It's interesting that the Ayatollah or his press secretary prefers this term.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: October 31, 2023, 05:19:56 pm »

Yes, "West Asia" is definitely the worse term by far, as most of "West Asia":



 is actually east of the accurate definition of Asia (shown in red):



making the name absurd to anyone who knows history. "West Asia" is also functionally worse because it excludes Egypt etc., unlike "Middle East":



On the other hand, Mashriq:



has the disadvantage of excluding Iran and Turkey. The best we can do is Rashidun:



I suppose we could try to promote the term "Greater Rashidun"?
Posted by: rp
« on: October 31, 2023, 02:22:52 pm »

https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1589976896925597696?t=uS-YFy86Sx_yhgtfNjd-EQ&s=19
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What is meant by “Middle East”? Any region far from Europe is called the Far East, close to Europe is Near East, & anything in between is #MiddleEast. Europe is the benchmark for these names. The West claimed such rights for themselves. Don’t say the Middle East; say #WestAsia.

I agree with everything but the last sentence. Asia itself is a Eurocentric term FFS!
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: August 25, 2023, 08:25:29 pm »

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/08/tribes-want-to-rename-ohios-wayne-national-forest-sen-jd-vance-does-not.html

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WASHINGTON, D. C. – Native American tribes whom Gen. Anthony Wayne helped remove from Ohio more than 200 years now want to remove his name from the Southeast Ohio’s Wayne National Forest.
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A Forest Service press release said Wayne’s “complicated legacy includes leading a violent campaign against the Indigenous peoples of Ohio that resulted in their removal from their homelands,” and described the current forest name as “offensive because of this history of violence.”
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U.S. Sen. JD Vance on Thursday asked top Forest Service and U.S. Department of Agriculture officials to oppose the change. In a letter to Agriculture Sec. Tom Vilsack and Forest Service Chief Randy Moore, Vance said the name change would denigrate Ohio history and represent “a lack of fidelity to our nation’s founding generation.”

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/old-content/msg7380/#msg7380

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/leftist-vs-rightist-moral-circles/msg9760/#msg9760