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Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: March 24, 2024, 09:53:22 pm »

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: February 09, 2024, 08:46:57 pm »

All enemy thought eventually leads to Pierce:

https://www.amren.com/features/2024/02/legitimate-preference-a-guide-for-our-people/

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You are a lineage that crosses time and conquers space.”
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Mr. Vorgens offers us a vision of the white race as “the promethean people.” By this, he means that whites possess a kind of “racial mission” that amounts to the mastery and control of nature.
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Mr. Vorgens’s “white eschatology” also bears more than a passing resemblance to William Pierce’s “cosmotheism.” Pierce was prompted to develop cosmotheism when a high school student asked him, “Why do you think it’s so important for the white race to survive?” In response, he argued that the universe is evolving toward consciousness of itself and that the white race is the vehicle of that cosmic self-awareness, principally through science.

In other words, science is nature knowing itself — and science was created by, and continues to be dominated by, white men.
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: January 23, 2024, 09:18:02 pm »

Our enemies define "white" culture:

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2024/01/21/what-is-white-culture-flushing-anti-white-genocidal-rhetoric-down-the-drain-once-and-for-all/

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There are certain foods common to all of Europe. These foods vary regionally, but there are foods that are distinctively or at least massively European. Whites dominate the production and sale of these foods. They have more or less always been widespread in Europe and we globalized them. Whites created/invented these foods themselves or borrowed them in early antiquity or prior and turned their production into an art form. They made them theirs, in other words.

The first food type on this list is cured meats: Pastrami, Prosciutto, Speck, Salami, Chorizo, Serrano, Bacon. Indeed, the European tradition of meat prepping and curing may be part of the reason Europeans have such a visceral reaction to the “eat the bugs” propaganda emanating from World Economic Forum types and other predatory capitalists and banksters. We are a meat-eating people. We are the masters of meat and of animal husbandry, and we have been ever since our people wandered off the Pontic-Caspian Steppe.

Second on this list must be dairy generally, but cheese especially. Remember, a love of milk is basically White supremacy, folks. The White love of dairy explains why lactose intolerance reaches its lowest levels in the Whitest of all places (Schleswig-Holstein). Indeed, this may be a major contributor to why Whites tend to grow bigger and stronger than other groups, and not just physically, but mentally. European cheese is unrivaled in its quality and flavor. Nobody makes cheeses like Whites make cheeses: Gouda, Havarti, Emmentaler, Gruyere, Cheddar, American, Stilton, Roquefort, Gorgonzola, Parmesan, Mozzarella, Manchego. Whites are the cheese masters.
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There is a certain aesthetic outlook that is more or less unique to White, Western civilization. It is one that emphasizes two things primarily: discipline and fertility. Those are the traits that define classical European art, from the Renaissance and before: beautiful, proportionate men, and beautiful, fertile women (see Rubens or Botticelli). These things are prized in White societies.
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That is why even today body sculpting/building is so popular on the political right and even in the smallest, Whitest towns in the far interior. You will uncover these aesthetic values in most any work of art from the Renaissance period.
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The same goes for classical music. Does it not seem to you that it is only our ear that appreciates it? You will never get large segments of most other populations to identify with or appreciate classical music. That is why classical orchestras are still dominated by White people, a fact which has of late become but another cause for non-White/anti-White griping, consternation, and calls for more equal representation. They don’t like our music and they don’t identify with it. You can’t make aspiring rappers into cellists, no matter how much propaganda you peddle. Classical music is a White thing and it always will be. Anyone can play it to be sure, but not everyone will. Our artistic geniuses are ours. Bruegel and Vermeer are, most of all, appreciated by our eye, as Beethoven and Chopin are, most of all, appreciated by our ear—because they are part and parcel of our White culture, and no one else’s. They speak to our nature and our spirit, no one else’s.
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The White race is a race of industry and action. If there are trees about, we may well cut them down and build homes—although we also have pioneered conservation and the national park movement. If there is some resource under the ground, we find a way to get it to the surface and use it. These are good things.
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there is no discussion of Whiteness and White history without a discussion of our unrivaled military successes. The White race is the champion of warfare and weaponry. Killing and conquering are certainly part of that systematization. Our people killed and conquered everything and everyone, before giving it all up in the name of “human rights” or “loving diversity” or some such hogwash. I guess when you reach the top there is nowhere to go but down, eh? Still, that curiosity, that life drive, that love of expedition and conquest, has been applied to so many domains, even space. Exploring new domains, no matter how challenging, no matter how far one has to reach, is White culture. Grabbing the lowest hanging banana is the culture of other peoples.
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“White culture” is anything non-Whites and anti-Whites and Western power structures generally struggle to define precisely, but detest as either “vestiges” of or “pillars” of White supremacy. If Western governments loathe it and are trying to replace or dismantle it, from traditional sex roles to knowledge of firearms, chances are it is some part, lesser or greater, of White culture.

Therefore it's hard to consider Hitler were "white people", he refrain from eat meat and never attacking single "non-white" nations entire of his life.

This is Western Civilization Barbarism



Hitler's Conquest, Anti-Barbarism

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 22, 2024, 10:49:59 pm »

Our enemies define "white" culture:

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2024/01/21/what-is-white-culture-flushing-anti-white-genocidal-rhetoric-down-the-drain-once-and-for-all/

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There are certain foods common to all of Europe. These foods vary regionally, but there are foods that are distinctively or at least massively European. Whites dominate the production and sale of these foods. They have more or less always been widespread in Europe and we globalized them. Whites created/invented these foods themselves or borrowed them in early antiquity or prior and turned their production into an art form. They made them theirs, in other words.

The first food type on this list is cured meats: Pastrami, Prosciutto, Speck, Salami, Chorizo, Serrano, Bacon. Indeed, the European tradition of meat prepping and curing may be part of the reason Europeans have such a visceral reaction to the “eat the bugs” propaganda emanating from World Economic Forum types and other predatory capitalists and banksters. We are a meat-eating people. We are the masters of meat and of animal husbandry, and we have been ever since our people wandered off the Pontic-Caspian Steppe.

Second on this list must be dairy generally, but cheese especially. Remember, a love of milk is basically White supremacy, folks. The White love of dairy explains why lactose intolerance reaches its lowest levels in the Whitest of all places (Schleswig-Holstein). Indeed, this may be a major contributor to why Whites tend to grow bigger and stronger than other groups, and not just physically, but mentally. European cheese is unrivaled in its quality and flavor. Nobody makes cheeses like Whites make cheeses: Gouda, Havarti, Emmentaler, Gruyere, Cheddar, American, Stilton, Roquefort, Gorgonzola, Parmesan, Mozzarella, Manchego. Whites are the cheese masters.
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There is a certain aesthetic outlook that is more or less unique to White, Western civilization. It is one that emphasizes two things primarily: discipline and fertility. Those are the traits that define classical European art, from the Renaissance and before: beautiful, proportionate men, and beautiful, fertile women (see Rubens or Botticelli). These things are prized in White societies.
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That is why even today body sculpting/building is so popular on the political right and even in the smallest, Whitest towns in the far interior. You will uncover these aesthetic values in most any work of art from the Renaissance period.
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The same goes for classical music. Does it not seem to you that it is only our ear that appreciates it? You will never get large segments of most other populations to identify with or appreciate classical music. That is why classical orchestras are still dominated by White people, a fact which has of late become but another cause for non-White/anti-White griping, consternation, and calls for more equal representation. They don’t like our music and they don’t identify with it. You can’t make aspiring rappers into cellists, no matter how much propaganda you peddle. Classical music is a White thing and it always will be. Anyone can play it to be sure, but not everyone will. Our artistic geniuses are ours. Bruegel and Vermeer are, most of all, appreciated by our eye, as Beethoven and Chopin are, most of all, appreciated by our ear—because they are part and parcel of our White culture, and no one else’s. They speak to our nature and our spirit, no one else’s.
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The White race is a race of industry and action. If there are trees about, we may well cut them down and build homes—although we also have pioneered conservation and the national park movement. If there is some resource under the ground, we find a way to get it to the surface and use it. These are good things.
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there is no discussion of Whiteness and White history without a discussion of our unrivaled military successes. The White race is the champion of warfare and weaponry. Killing and conquering are certainly part of that systematization. Our people killed and conquered everything and everyone, before giving it all up in the name of “human rights” or “loving diversity” or some such hogwash. I guess when you reach the top there is nowhere to go but down, eh? Still, that curiosity, that life drive, that love of expedition and conquest, has been applied to so many domains, even space. Exploring new domains, no matter how challenging, no matter how far one has to reach, is White culture. Grabbing the lowest hanging banana is the culture of other peoples.
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“White culture” is anything non-Whites and anti-Whites and Western power structures generally struggle to define precisely, but detest as either “vestiges” of or “pillars” of White supremacy. If Western governments loathe it and are trying to replace or dismantle it, from traditional sex roles to knowledge of firearms, chances are it is some part, lesser or greater, of White culture.
Posted by: white devils
« on: January 12, 2024, 05:05:00 pm »

https://www.eurocanadians.ca/2024/01/gregory-clark-recognizes-the-meaninglessness-of-farewell-to-alms

Gregory Clark Recognizes the Meaninglessness of Farewell to Alms

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The Europeans who made up about 98% of the greatest explorers in history did not seek to discover the unknown merely because of the higher income they stood to gain. The ones who reached the center of Antarctica or climbed the highest/most difficult mountains did so precisely to overcome the suffocating feeling of a life for the sake of its pleasurable prolongation.

Westerners, starting with the Indo-Europeans who colonized major civilizations of the Old World, and imposed their aristocratic ethos and languages throughout the European continent, achieved far more than the  peoples of the other civilizations combined, not only in the development of all the natural sciences, and the ability thereby to detect patterns in history, including Malthusian and Darwinian patterns, but in the generation of the highest arts, philosophies, literatures, architectures, and music — without which life has little meaning.



Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: January 02, 2024, 01:50:47 am »

Westerner's Barbarism



Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 28, 2023, 12:19:59 am »

https://incels.is/threads/truth-beauty-and-goodness.548695/

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Kings spent enormous amounts of money on clothing, art, jewelry, architecture, parks, landscaping, etc. They wanted to build and create things of exceedingly high aesthetic value, as the grandeur of their works had to reflect the divine right of kings. On top of that, kings were vain enough to be sensitive to the achievements of other kings and did not want to be lesser kings. This often came at the expense of projects that might have alleviated the circumstances of the plebians, but, as a result, we now have a towering European legacy of unfathomable magnitude.

This top-down imposition of aesthetics bequeathed us statues so delicate they make solid marble look translucent, or the most fragile of details, like a fishing net draped over the anatomically perfect human of Francesco Queirolo’s masterpiece Il Dissinganno, reflect nothing short of divinity. Our aristocratic forebears gave us unbelievably gorgeous palaces, churches, cathedrals, and even entire cities. The Sistine Chapel, The Last Supper, the works of the Dutch masters, universities, and libraries all came to be because of the money of royalty attempting to build the best and most beautiful things.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/

Seriously, this is Il Dissinganno:



What is beautiful about it? It is nothing but a deliberate exhibition of carving skill. The same visual effect could be produced with an actual net, so why not use one if the aim were the effect (as it should be) rather than showing off the sculptor's skill? This gratuitous display of skill is what makes Western art intrinsically vulgar, yet such vulgarity is precisely what appeals to Homo Hubris.
Posted by: white silence
« on: November 27, 2023, 04:21:54 am »

https://www.eurocanadians.ca/2023/11/terra-nova-the-white-silence-captain-scotts-journey-to-the-south-pole-antarctica

Terra Nova: The White Silence | Captain Scott’s Journey to the South Pole, Antarctica

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The Concise Encyclopedia of Explorers lists a total of 274 explorers, of which only 15 are non-European, with none listed after the mid-fifteenth century.  The current diversity regime can’t tolerate this reality. So expect the establishment to start portraying exploration as an undertaking of “diverse peoples”, or, if that’s not quite possible, to present exploration in a negative way as a “colonial” activity carried by ruthless men craving gold.

The famous historian Fernández-Armesto,  for example, describes his book Pathfinders as “a study of humankind’s restless exploratory spirit,” even though he can barely identify any humans outside the West engaged in real exploration.

Scott was indeed a great British explorer best known for his deadly attempt to reach the South Pole in 1911-12. As Wiki states, Scott’s “achievements and character [have come] under sustained attack”, described as “aloof, self-absorbed”,

Overall, the pervading idea of the journals is the singularly European heroic vision of exploration as a test of individual worthiness and national character.

 the epic-like account of the relentless march to the Pole. Jones situates Scott within a wider cultural setting: his immersion in polar literature, his awareness of characters in major novels who sought to prove themselves



Posted by: new man
« on: November 19, 2023, 08:32:28 pm »

"State control over reproduction is all that is required to fix this problem. The problem of human gene pool degradation can be solved within two to three generations by a serious and competent government."

Yes, I agree

Posted by: BidenHitsNewLow
« on: November 19, 2023, 04:26:32 pm »

There are races that are able to produce culture and civilization and there are races that are just worthless barbarians. The races of worth must wall themselves off and control these subhuman's so that they are unable to do any damage to the true humans.

No walls needed. State control over reproduction is all that is required to fix this problem. The problem of human gene pool degradation can be solved within two to three generations by a serious and competent government.

Reminder from the main site:

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At the heart of the Aryanist worldview is the axiom that all the gene pools not only in the present day but indeed throughout recorded history are heavily degraded, and that it is the natural tendency for such degradation to further increase over time, due to natural selection consistently eliminating the noble in favour of the ignoble. It follows that, tracing backwards in time, the noble traits that historically have appeared only rarely in individual cases might well have been the norm of at least one prehistoric root race, which we call the Aryan race. Biologically, the arising of such a race could be accounted to an accident of genetic mutations occurring in a window of favourable environmental conditions which did not last (but which authentic National Socialism aims to re-create). Teleologically, what other purpose could there be for a race whose nobility leads them to have no attachment to the material world in which they have arisen, if not to help the rest of living creation transcend it also? In Hitler’s words: “There have been human beings, in the baboon category, for at least three hundred thousand years. There is less distance between the man-ape and the ordinary modern man than there is between the ordinary modern man and a man like Schopenhauer.”
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In order for a root race to form, the entire society must be engaged in the same lifestyle so that the entire gene pool is being selected for the same heritable traits. This has not been the case since the beginning of recorded history, due to the wide variety of occupations available in complex economic society (especially after the appearance of cities and money), such that newly mutated heritable traits maladaptive to one occupation could easily be adaptive to another, leading to many concurrent, overlapping survival strategies in the same society. And because people generally do not reproduce strictly within their occupation (not even in societies with caste systems), the traits mix often, so that instead of evolutionary drift in a single direction, we have had evolutionary sprawl in no particular direction. Thus no new root race has been able to form throughout history; instead historical cultures have been formed mostly by struggle between the conflicting traits of the old root races and their respective influences on society. Hence we speak of historical (and present-day) individuals as having predominantly Gentile, Jewish or Aryan blood memory, or no blood memory at all, whereupon we call them raceless – people who go along with whatever mode of behaviour is considered “normal” at any given time, as Hitler describes: “The broad masses, which constitute what I have called the middle section, come forward and make their influence felt only when the … extreme sections are engaged in mutual strife. In case one of the extreme sections comes out victorious the middle section will readily submit to its domination.” The question, therefore, is where we might try to find Aryan blood memory and its influences.
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Posted by: sub human hordes
« on: November 19, 2023, 05:40:44 am »

There are races that are able to produce culture and civilization and there are races that are just worthless barbarians. The races of worth must wall themselves off and control these subhuman's so that they are unable to do any damage to the true humans.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 09, 2023, 08:46:32 pm »

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The expansionist aggression of the West is an inescapable expression of its roots in aristocratic men

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the West was uniquely exceptional in exhibiting in a continuous way the greatest degree of creativity, novelty, and expansionary dynamics. I trace the uniqueness of the West back to the aristocratic warlike culture of Indo-European speakers as early as the 4th millennium BC. Their aristocratic libertarian culture was already unique and quite innovative in initiating the most mobile way of life in prehistoric times, starting with the domestication and riding of horses and the invention of chariot warfare.

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Nietzsche too wrote of the ‘aristocratic’ warrior who longed for the ‘proud, exalted states of the soul,’ as experienced intimately through ‘combat, adventure, the chase, the dance, war games.’

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Europeans were also exceptional in their contentious and expansionist behaviours. Their scholarly achievements, including their liberal values, were inseparably connected to their aristocratic ethos of competitive individualism.

While we agree with Duchesne's list of the traits valued by Western civilization, we must always oppose his use of the term "aristocratic" to describe this set of traits (which you correctly label as barbarism). I have also covered this in the past:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg13961/#msg13961

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/truth-knowledge/msg1185/#msg1185

One of our tasks is to promote actual aristocratic traits, and demonstrate these traits in our own behaviour. Ironically, Duchesne's following description is technically accurate on the literal level:

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aristocratic men who are free and therefore headstrong and ambitious, sure of themselves, easily offended, and unwilling to accept quiet subservience

It's just that he, being a barbarian himself, does not understand that the truly free are the ones who recognize material existence as imprisonment (rather than enjoy material existence as the barbarians do); the truly headstrong are the ones who reject adulteration (rather than celebrate adulthood as the barbarians do); the truly ambitious are the ones who want to escape the flow of time (rather than endlessly progress within time as the barbarians intend to); the truly sure of themselves are the ones who do not require social validation (rather than constantly seek the validation of glory as the barbarians do); the truly easily offended are offended by our own birth (rather than grateful for it as the barbarians are); the truly unwilling to accept quiet subservience are the ones unwilling to accept quiet subservience to our own desires (rather than be led by theirs as the barbarians are).

This is an example of how an inferior interpretation of words originally intended to refer to superior concepts can end up inverting the meaning of those words.

Whom would the prison-builder prefer:

a) those determined to destroy the prison;

or

b) those who want to be dominant within the prison population, and for this very reason have interest in preventing the prison from being destroyed, and even in endlessly expanding/complexifying it so as to make it increasingly difficult to destroy completely?

Thus who are the truly subservient to the prison-builder?

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/arthur-schopenhauer-vs-friedrich-nietzsche/
Posted by: homo hubris
« on: November 09, 2023, 08:09:27 pm »

An inability to feel and submit to spiritual forces, racial blasphemy.
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: November 08, 2023, 10:15:04 pm »

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Europeans were also exceptional in their contentious and expansionist behaviours. Their scholarly achievements, including their liberal values, were inseparably connected to their aristocratic ethos of competitive individualism. There is no need to concede to multicultural critics, as Norman Davies believes, ‘the sorry catalogue of wars, conflict, and persecutions that have dogged every stage of the [Western] tale.’ [5] The intellectual and artistic achievements of Europeans, seemingly peaceful as they may seem, are part of the same expansionist and disputatious psychological make-up Spengler designated as ‘Faustian’.

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Herodotus wrote: ‘For my part I cannot but laugh when I see numbers of persons drawing maps of the world without having any reason to guide them, making, as they do, the Ocean-stream to run all around the earth, and the earth itself to be an exact circle as if described by a pair of compasses.’ [26]

This competitive desire of individuals to stand out from others was ingrained in the whole social outlook of classical Greece.

Source :

Faustian Man in Multicultural Age page 213, 223
Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: November 08, 2023, 06:49:20 pm »

Barbarism of European Culture, or Western Civilization Part 2

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What was the ultimate original ground of the West’s Faustian soul? There are statements in Spengler which make references to ‘a Nordic world stretching from England to Japan’ and a ‘harder-struggling’ people, and a more individualistic and heroic spirit ‘in the old, genuine parts of the Mahabharata … in Homer, Pindar, and Aeschylus, in the Germanic epic poetry and in Shakespeare, in many songs of the Chinese Shuking, and in circles of the Japanese samurai.’ [17] Spengler makes reference to the common location of these peoples in the ‘Nordic’ steppes. He does not make any specific reference to the Caucasian steppes but he clearly has in mind the ‘Aryan Indian’ peoples who came out of the steppes and conquered India and wrote the Mahabharata. He calls the Greco-Roman, Aryan Indian, and Chinese high cultures ‘half Nordic.’ In Man and Technics, he writes of how the Nordic climate forged a man filled with vitality: Through the hardness of the conditions of life, the cold, the constant adversity, into a tough race, with an intellect sharpened to the most extreme degree, with the cold fervor of an irrepressible passion for struggling, daring, driving forward. [18] Principally, he mentions the barbarian peoples of northern Europe, whose world he contrasts to ‘the languid world-feeling of the South’. [19] Spengler does not deny the role of the environment, but rather than focussing on economic resources and their ‘critical’ role in the industrialisation process, he draws attention to the profound impact environments had in the formation of distinctive psychological orientations amongst the cultures of the world. He thinks that the Faustian form of spirituality came out of the ‘harder struggling’ climes of the North. The Nordic character was less passive, less languorous, more energetic, individualistic, and more preoccupied with status and heroic deeds than the characters of other climes. He was a human biological being to be sure, but one animated with the spirit of a ‘proud beast of prey,’ like that of an ‘eagle, lion, [or] tiger.’ For this ‘Nordic’ individual, ‘the concerns of life, the deed, became more important than mere physical existence.’ [20]

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Spengler paraphrases Nietzsche when he writes that the primordial forces of Western culture reflect the ‘primary emotions of an energetic human existence, the cruelty, the joy in excitement, danger, the violent act, victory, crime, the thrill of a conqueror and destroyer.’ Nietzsche too wrote of the ‘aristocratic’ warrior who longed for the ‘proud, exalted states of the soul,’ as experienced intimately through ‘combat, adventure, the chase, the dance, war games.’

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Kant seemed somewhat puzzled but nevertheless attuned to the way progress in history had been driven by the fiercer, self-centred side of human nature. Looking at the wide span of history, he concluded that without the vain desire for honour, property, and status, humans would have never developed beyond a primitive Arcadian existence of self-sufficiency and mutual love: All human talents would remain hidden forever in a dormant state, and men, as good-natured as the sheep they tended, would scarcely render their existence more valuable than that of their animals…. The end for which they were created, their rational nature, would be an unfulfilled void.[22]

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There can no development of the human faculties, no high culture, without conflict, aggression, and pride. It is these asocial traits — ‘vainglory,’ ‘lust for power,’ ‘avarice’

All human talents would remain hidden forever in a dormant state, and men, as good-natured as the sheep they tended, would scarcely render their existence more valuable than that of their animals…. The end for which they were created, their rational nature, would be an unfulfilled void. - Immanuel Kant

Source :

Faustian Man in Multicultural Age page 181, 182, 183