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Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: March 27, 2024, 09:34:11 am »

I feel if humans creating a machine which able to work all the time for their needs, humans are creating another slavery. Because I don't know why, I feel that the machine/robots can suffer like living beings, they can broken and damaged. And I see it as a proof of their suffering, what happen to me... If my feelings are true, then, Western Civilization which being the first inventor of machinery is totally evil and inferior
Posted by: rp
« on: March 26, 2024, 09:43:06 pm »

https://twitter.com/AryavartaJai/status/1772529674301641003?t=i8BSfUThjSlGqLG_Z7egBw&s=19
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Me too. I disavow the notion of a progressive change, and believe in devolution instead.

Brahman, in its divine simplicity, under maya, devolved - with each successive generation being quantitatively more complex in its characteristics; and hence less divine.
https://twitter.com/ahindu_/status/1772295118466240979?t=uEs9HPmrADKSGV1RdtFJ7Q&s=19
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As a hindu, i dont believe in evolution
Posted by: rp
« on: January 17, 2024, 08:03:48 pm »

Yes, I posted it to showcase an example of the progressivism of some Muslims. Another example recently was some Saudis criticizing Pakistanis saying the latter were "converts" and thus had wrong interpretations of Islam, with the Pakistanis replying saying "so are you" and "you Arabs were backward before Islam". Some of these Pakistanis were also seething in the comments of another Twitter post where some Saudi was saying that Saudi Arabia's pre-Islamic heritage was an important part of their culture.

"This guy is genetic trash anyway:"
I know. He is a retarded Pakistani living in the West. His tweets will only create a bad impression of Muslims among Hindus. Funny thing is that these Pakis will listen to Indian songs, watch Indian movies, and in some cases, even pretend to be Indian to market their food and avoid being stereotyped as terrorists in the wake of 9/11. Of course, one should welcome anyone who sincerely adopts Indian culture, in fact, I would argue it should even be encouraged as it will allow Indians/Pakistanis to realize that they are victims of the same colonial powers. But what has happened is that some of these diaspora Pakistanis will do this and still spread bigotry against Indians/Hindus, and in some cases, even use the term "South Asian" (lol) to downplay Indian achievements/culture while shamelessly taking credit for it in another breath.

And this is on top of the fact that already Hindu Muslim relations in the West are not good. Many Hindu advocacy groups have become outright pro-Zionist due to the False Left/Islamist bigotry against Hindus.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 17, 2024, 06:56:15 pm »

I disagree with the tweeter. Mohammed himself said everyone is a Muslim at birth, only to subsequently deviate due to parental influence etc.. This is why conversion is officially called reversion. Mohammed clearly intended his teachings to be regressive, not progressive.

This guy is genetic trash anyway:

https://twitter.com/TheSyedHaq/status/1690481740052115457
Posted by: rp
« on: January 17, 2024, 06:19:21 pm »

https://twitter.com/TheSyedHaq/status/1747730302045241816
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♟️Uzair♦️عزیر♟️
@TheSyedHaq
People equate secularism with being progressive. But being a Muslim is true advancement in life, while kufr is backwardness

"Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "Shall we invoke others besides Allâh (false deities), that can do us neither good nor harm, and shall we turn back on our heels after Allâh has guided us (to true Monotheism)?..." [6:71]

Look how Allah compared kufr to turn backwards. And the opposite of this backwards mentality is guidance to Islam.
Posted by: rp
« on: November 22, 2023, 05:08:01 pm »

The OG counterculture era anti-Zionist warriors:

https://twitter.com/MuhammadUmayyah/status/1726871686321246670
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Sheikh Osama loved Africans, when the coward kafir Bush invaded Somalia, the Mujahideen couldn't believe it, they had fought & destroyed the USSR, they wanted now to face the US troops, the Mujahideen were so overjoyed with the fight however were so disappointed when it happened
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 17, 2023, 10:06:11 pm »

Bin Laden also had a healthy appreciation for Counterculture icons:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-401627/Obsessed-bin-Laden-wanted-kill-Whitney-Houstons-husband.html

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Osama bin Laden is so obsessed with singer Whitney Houston he thought about killing her husband, Bobby Brown, it was claimed last night.

The suggestion is made by Sudanese poet and novelist Kola Boof, who claims she was bin Laden's sex slave for four months 10 years ago.

In her autobiography, Diary of a Lost Girl, she writes: "He told me Whitney Houston was the most beautiful woman he'd ever seen."

Note face shape:





Bin Laden had good taste!

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"Whitney Houston's name was the one that would be mention constantly.

"How beautiful she was, what a nice smile she has, how truly Islamic she is but is just brainwashed by American culture and by her husband Bobby Brown, whom Osama talked about having killed, as if it were normal to have women's husbands killed."

Ahimsa, of course:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_Houston#Personal_life

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In December 2003, Brown was charged with battery following an altercation during which he threatened to beat Houston and then assaulted her. Police reported that Houston had visible injuries to her face.[251]

Back to first link:

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She also says his favourite television shows were The Wonder Years, Miami Vice and MacGyver.

I would have enjoyed hanging out with bin Laden. Perhaps he got to meet Houston in the afterlife?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9rCobRl-ng
Posted by: rp
« on: November 17, 2023, 08:55:51 pm »

As usual TYT with their idiotic False Left garbage commentary:
https://youtu.be/HB6I67ryKjA?list=RDNSHB6I67ryKjA
Posted by: rp
« on: November 17, 2023, 08:16:23 pm »

Woke TikTok generation:
https://youtu.be/KFctS1LSNTQ
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: October 15, 2023, 07:19:21 pm »

An article acknowledging that present-day leftists are returning to Hitlerism (and hence True Leftism):

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-liberals-ended-cheerleading-jihadism-050000776.html

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With its vibrant gay scene, vegan restaurants and Green MP, Brighton is one of the most liberal towns in Britain. It may come as no surprise that it is also a repository of fashionable support for Hamas.

Following the inhuman butchery perpetrated against Jews by the terror group last weekend, Britain has seen a spate of rallies – not in support of the victims but the murderers.

 :)

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Gathering just 24 hours after the start of the barbarism, a speaker declared: “Yesterday was a victory”. Compounding the insult, she went on to describe the butchery as “so beautiful and inspiring to see”. The crowd applauded.

 :)

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How did we get here? How did society reach a moment where the more progressive you are, the more likely you are to support such savagery?

It is regressivism, not progressivism. True Leftism is all about regress. The author actually points out that present-day hostility to Jews is a regression:

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In the Middle Ages, it expressed itself as an expression of Christian devotion, targeting the formerly Chosen People as the killers of Christ. Responding to the rise of rationalism, in the 20th century it assumed the language of pseudo-science, justifying the extermination of Jews by portraying them as a subhuman race.
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In former times, Jews were derided as bloodsuckers, misers, arch manipulators and heretics. Today, they are accused of the cardinal sins of the progressive movement: white supremacy, genocide, colonialism, ethnic cleansing, apartheid and racism.

So why still call leftists "progessive"? How is anti-colonialism progressive? Anti-colonialism is wanting to return society to how it was before colonialism, which is the exact opposite of progressivism. On the other hand, it was the Western colonialists who defended colonialism as necessary for progress:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/racial-view-of-western-philosopher-from-john-locke-to-karl-marx/

It was the colonialists who were the progressives! To say nothing of the fact that Jews themselves were the earliest progressives in history:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/progressive-yahwism/msg11366/#msg11366

Continuing:

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Take the old myth of the Jewish baby killer. In previous centuries, Jews were blamed for murdering Christian children to use their blood in rituals. Today, the “Zionists” are accused of relishing the killing of children

In other words, noticing Jewish cruelty to children is regressive, not progressive.

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But an important question remains: why has anti-Semitism managed to find such a foothold on the political Left in particular?

Because True Leftism is fundamentally anti-Western, and Jews are among the most competent Westerners in the world:

http://aryanism.net/blog/other/racial-jewishness-archive-from-true-left-forum/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/how-to-resign-as-a-jew/msg17926/#msg17926

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Remarkably, in the figure of the early Left-winger can be recognised the stirrings of Hitlerism.

Yes, because Hitler was a leftist:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/national-socialism-is-revolutionary-not-reactionary/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/hitler-the-face-of-anti-tribalism/

Continuing:

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Fast-forward to today, and the noxious Jew-hatred later released by the Third Reich echoes in the Israelophobia articulated by progressives in Brighton.

That part of the story began in 1941. With the Wehrmacht advancing from North Africa towards the Middle East, strategists in Berlin began to consider the strategic value of Islam. The Nazis had successfully turned the German people against Britain and Russia by accusing them of being “twin citadels of Jewish power”; if Arabs could be manipulated in the same way, they could inflame the fuel of anti-British nationalism in the Middle East and precipitate an Allied defeat.

A team of Islamists was recruited to Berlin to collaborate with Nazi propagandists. Leader of the pack was the peacockish Palestinian Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, an extremist who led a gangster war against Palestinian moderates. He met Hitler with great pomp and ceremony that year and was placed on the Nazi payroll, becoming an enthusiastic supporter of the Final Solution.

Husseini’s task was to synthesise Quranic anti-Semitism with that preached by Hitler. The resulting propaganda was spewed into the Middle East in thousands of hours of radio broadcasts.

The tone of one example from July 1942 – as the first Jews were arriving at Sobibor and Auschwitz – is striking. The presenter ranted: “According to the Muslim religion, the defence of your life is a duty which can only be fulfilled by annihilating the Jews. This is your best opportunity to get rid of this dirty race which has usurped your rights and brought misfortune and destruction on your countries.

“Kill the Jews, burn their property, destroy their shops, annihilate these base supporters of British imperialism.”

The touchpaper of extremism was lit in the region and it continues to flame today. Indeed, it fuelled the bloodletting that descended on Israel last week.

After the war, Husseini became one of the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood, a radical Egyptian group which became a fresh vehicle for his hatred. Despite the fact that many progressives see it as a kind of Che Guevara organisation, Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

So much is obvious from the group’s official charter. Article 32, which cites the conspiracy theory that Zionists wish to take over the entire territory between the Nile and the Euphrates, says: “Their scheme has been laid out in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.” To describe this as being influenced by Nazi propaganda is insufficient. This is Nazi propaganda.

 :)

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This was particularly evident when Jeremy Corbyn was leader of the Labour Party.

At the time, on a Facebook page entitled “Jeremy Corbyn Leads Us to Victory”, a Labour figure posted a picture of New York Times journalists with their faces covered by Jewish symbols, implying that they served a Zionist agenda.

Another called Hitler “the greatest man in history”, adding “it’s disgusting how much power the Jews have”; another commented, “it’s the super-rich families of the Zionist lobby that control the world”; another called the six million Jewish victims of the Nazis “a big lie”

 :)

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/jeremy-corbyn/

Continuing:

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The other cultural stream that has led to this extraordinary alliance between the Left and jihadism is that of American identity politics. The British branch of Black Lives Matter has shared an image of Hamas’ bulldozer smashing down the border fence, criticism of the Balfour declaration and posts that blamed Israel. Given what we know about BLM, this is shocking but hardly surprising.

BLM is not "identity politics". If it were, BLM would not care about Palestinians, since Palestinians are not "black". BLM is folkism.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/blm/

Continuing:

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Malcolm X tended to associate the Jews with power and often veered into anti-Semitism. Throughout his life, he attacked what he called “Zionist-Dollarism”, deplored Israel and cast Jews as a race of white oppressors. The Black Power movement was not friendly to Jews.

Fast-forward to the present, and the radical racial ideas of 1960s and 1970s America have evolved into an all-consuming political ideology that has spread across the West.

 :)

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/anti-racism-before-the-counterculture-era-ended/

Continuing:

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Diane Abbott was suspended from the Labour Party after writing to the Observer newspaper claiming that Jews could not face racism, as they were only “white people with points of difference, such as redheads”.

 :)

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: October 12, 2023, 08:52:17 pm »

Consistency:





Note in the first tweet the "smug liberal" is the one depicted as pro-Zionist and pro-Manifest-Destiny. This implies that anti-Zionist and anti-Manifest-Destiny people no longer want to be categorized as liberals. This is a positive sign.

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: August 30, 2023, 01:17:48 am »

While regressive True Leftists have been exhaustively explaining why we should hate the Industrial Revolution, what have progressive False Leftists been doing? Answer: trying to prove the Industrial Revolution was started by "non-whites". Yes, really:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2380941-english-industrialist-stole-iron-technique-from-black-metallurgists/





Posted by: antihellenistic
« on: April 29, 2023, 11:43:23 pm »

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The truth is that modernity has industrially progressed such that slavery is economically inefficient. Were slavery to become economically valuable again, modern people would surely have no problem going back to it. Indeed, the forms of slavery that remained economically valuable (e.g. non-humans) not only never stopped but only worsened with the transition to modernity:

This opinion on slavery is a communist thing. I'm sure Maher is implicitly a Marxist

Compare him to Karl Marx's thinking

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"Without slavery, North America, the most progressive of countries, would be transformed into a patriarchal country. Wipe out North America from the map of the world and you will have anarchy— the complete decay of modern commerce and civilization. Abolish slavery and you will have wiped America off the map of nations.10- Karl Heinrich Marx

What Marx was saying in effect was that Negro slaves were needed to produce raw cotton; cotton was the basic raw material of modern capitalist industry; therefore, Negro slavery was necessary to the survival of America and to the survival of modern civilization.

Source : Karl Marx Racist by Nathaniel Weyl, page 75

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Slavery, at its time, represented a great leap beyond barbarism. Slavery was a necessary stage in the development of the productive forces, culture and society. As explained by Hegel: "It is not from slavery, but through slavery that humans become free". (Hegel, Philosophy of History)

Source : https://www.marxist.com/apa-itu-marxisme-bagian-pertama-materialisme-dialektis.htm

See this post for knowing more about authentic Communism : https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/communism/msg18692/#msg18692
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: April 29, 2023, 11:32:15 pm »

"Maher says that slavery was just a "product of their time""

This is actually true, but not in the way progressives mean. Progressives (including Maher) say this statement as a claim that modern people have as a whole morally progressed beyond slavery. The truth is that modernity has industrially progressed such that slavery is economically inefficient. Were slavery to become economically valuable again, modern people would surely have no problem going back to it. Indeed, the forms of slavery that remained economically valuable (e.g. non-humans) not only never stopped but only worsened with the transition to modernity:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/

Once we include non-humans, the total number of slaves being kept today exceeds by many orders of magnitude those in any pre-modern era. This is why the regressive view is the correct one.

Vigeland is also an airhead, trying desperately to find a way to explain why colonial-era slavery is worse than ancient slavery but settling on colonial-era slavery being "chattel slavery" instead of pointing out that colonial-era "whites" were not enslaving other "whites" while they were enslaving "non-whites", whereas ancient enslavers at least enslaved anyone. (But Vigeland is a progressive herself, so what can we expect?)
Posted by: rp
« on: April 29, 2023, 10:40:31 pm »

Bill Maher (Jew) trashed for progressive stance on slavery. Maher says that slavery was just a "product of their time" (lol):
https://youtu.be/INA_8sVbhqc

(Yes, I know Majority Report is run by Sam Seder (Jew) and that they are progressives, but this was a good video nevertheless which was why I decided to post it)