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Title: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 21, 2022, 05:14:45 pm
I am taking it upon myself for the assistance of the Aryanist movement and for those looking for recruitment to compile a list of anti-tribalist quotes from/about Hitler and his true associates/admirers. Please contribute if possible.
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 21, 2022, 05:16:09 pm
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’If…we examine the advantages and disadvantages of keeping the races and tribes apart in our German fatherland, we can see nothing but disadvantages! The German Volk would only be more splintered, set against one another, atomized by stirring up the racial problems; so it would be rendered insignificant as far as foreign policy goes. That is why I have forbidden more than once—and at the next Gauleiter conference I shall unequivocally repeat my prohibition against—any talk or writing about racial theory and the racial problem. We must do precisely the opposite! The community of the Volk, the community of the Volk, the community of the Volk—that must be our battle cry! Everything that unites and allies the strata must be brought out, cultivated, and promoted, and everything that separates them, everything that serves to awaken the old prejudices must be avoided, fought against, removed. We must make good the mistakes that were made on both sides. Like Christ, we must preach, ‘You are all brothers! Love one another!’’
(Otto Wagener, Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant, 1946 (in German)/1978/1985, p. 213)
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 21, 2022, 05:19:42 pm
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'We must accept the mixing of blood as it is. We must not call one blood worse than another, one mixture better than another. Rather, we must employ other means to breed a higher form from this gray mass. We must try to bring to the surface the valuable traits of the people living in Germany, to cultivate and to develop them, and we must find ways and means to prevent the propagation of all the bad, inferior, criminal, and decadent tendencies and all the congenital diseases so damaging to the Volk.'
(Otto Wagener, Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant, 1946 (in German)/1978/1985, p. 214)
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 21, 2022, 05:24:31 pm
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'The Romans gathered the best students from their whole empire in boarding institutions. There they were taught and trained by the best teachers. This effort did not take the fathers’ profession into consideration. Only foreign races—Negroes and Jews—were excluded. In all other areas, Jews enjoyed Roman liberties; Negroes, on the other hand, were granted them only in exceptional cases, when they had made themselves deserving through especially outstanding achievements for the Empire. Jews could even become ‘Roman Citizens,’ as we see in the case of Saint Paul. But the school for pages—that is, the training school for the young men intended to enter public service—was not open to them. I have a similar institution in mind for Germany.'
(Otto Wagener, Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant, 1946 (German)/1978/1985, p. 289)
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 21, 2022, 05:26:23 pm
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'The third point is that a person must be racially flawless. Let him be Germanic, or Roman, or Chinese, or a Jew, or an Indian, or a Negro, and so on. I respect all equally. We can work with and count on all of them. Each has his established traits. Depending on what one is looking for, this one or that one is to be preferred for the job in question. It is no different with people than with horses or dogs. Once one has established the proper race for a particular task, one can rest assured that the task will be resolved.'
(Otto Wagener, Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant, 1946 (in German)/1978/1985, p. 143)
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 21, 2022, 05:29:39 pm
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'Since Hitler paused briefly, Schemm noted: 'I’m very glad, Herr Hitler, to hear you say this. There’s such a lot of nonsense talked about blond men, about the Nordic race, about the cult of Wotan and the spirit of the Edda, as if no one else on the globe had any right to exist, or at best to exist only in a second-class position, as subhuman creatures. These idiotic windbags have no idea what harm their spouting causes. For all they do is arouse inferiority complexes and hatred in those who don’t happen to be lucky enough to be blond, and so they divide the German Volk into two racial halves: the Germanic and the non-Germanic people.'
'I’ve expressly and repeatedly forbidden this sort of thing!' Hitler interrupted, flaring up. 'All that rubbish about the Thing places, the solstice festivals, the Midgard snake, and all the rest of the rubbish they dredge up from German prehistory! Then they read Nietzsche with fifteen-year-old boys and, using incomprehensible quotations, paint a picture of the superman, exhorting the boys: ‘That is you—or that is what you are to become.’'
(Otto Wagener, Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant, 1946 (in German)/1978/1985, p. 277)
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 21, 2022, 05:31:36 pm
On homosexuality:
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''What people do in their beds’, Hitler used to say, ‘does not interest me so long as relationships do not prejudice the State and its leadership.’'
(Heinz Linge, With Hitler to the End)
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: Panzerfaust on June 21, 2022, 10:29:25 pm
Who is "Wagener" and why is it when I enter "Wagener, 1978/1985, p. 143" into the google search engine I get links to the JSTOR website?

What the Romans thought of race was already covered here: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/what-did-the-romans-think-about-race/

How is this quote anti-tribalism: ''What people do in their beds’, Hitler used to say, ‘does not interest me so long as relationships do not prejudice the State and its leadership.’'?

The quote "You are all brothers! Love one another!’’ sounds Jewish:
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The slaughter of the firstborn reveals that clearly enough. Just as they have done with us, the Jews had won the great lower stratum of the population for themselves -- 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity!' -- until
one night they sent out the order, 'Down with the bourgeois! Kill them, the dogs!' but things didn't turn out so well as they had expected.
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/Bolshevism_From_Moses_to_Lenin.pdf

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Liberté, égalité, fraternité (French pronunciation: [libɛʁˈte eɡaliˈte fʁatɛʁniˈte]), French for "liberty, equality, fraternity",[1] is the national motto of France and the Republic of Haiti, and is an example of a tripartite motto. Although it finds its origins in the French Revolution, it was then only one motto among others and was not institutionalized until the Third Republic at the end of the 19th century.[2] Debates concerning the compatibility and order of the three terms began at the same time as the Revolution. It is also the motto of the Grand Orient and the Grande Loge de France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libert%C3%A9,_%C3%A9galit%C3%A9,_fraternit%C3%A9

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/secret-societies-and-occult-forces/
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 22, 2022, 03:11:27 pm
'Who is "Wagener" and why is it when I enter "Wagener, 1978/1985, p. 143" into the google search engine I get links to the JSTOR website?'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Wagener
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler:_Memoirs_of_a_Confidant

'What the Romans thought of race was already covered here: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/what-did-the-romans-think-about-race/'
Nothing is covered on that thread. It's just a collection of links to YouTube videos with no discussion whatsoever.

'How is this quote anti-tribalism: ''What people do in their beds’, Hitler used to say, ‘does not interest me so long as relationships do not prejudice the State and its leadership.’'?'
Homophobia is a form of tribalism.

'The quote "You are all brothers! Love one another!’’ sounds Jewish:'
It's not. It's Christian -  though I don't think it verbatim appears in any of the four Gospels.
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: Panzerfaust on June 22, 2022, 05:13:34 pm
"Nothing is covered on that thread. It's just a collection of links to YouTube videos with no discussion whatsoever."

Nothing is covered about how Romans saw race in this video?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVWi3_FMjno

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In classical antiquity Greek and Roman writers were acquainted with people of every skin tone from very pale (associated with populations from Scythia) to very dark (associated with populations from sub-Saharan Africa (Aethiopia). People described with words meaning "black", or as Aethiopes, are occasionally mentioned throughout the Empire in surviving writings, and people with very dark skin tones and woolly hair are depicted in various artistic modes. Other words for people with other skin tones were also used.

Skin tones did not carry any social implications and no social identity, either imposed or assumed, was associated with skin color. Though the color black was associated with ill-omen in the ancient Roman religion, "the ancients did not fall into the error of biological racism;... ancient society... for all its faults and failures never made color the basis for judging a man."[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_in_ancient_Roman_history

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Black Romans were central to Classical culture and not as an exceptional few or as slaves or servants. They were soldiers and traders, dramatists, poets, philosophers, theologians, and emperors. We need to re-imagine imperial Romans as having a completely unsurprising diversity of skin pigmentation.
https://theconversation.com/challenging-the-whiteness-of-classics-remembering-the-black-romans-175180

Therefore, this quote by Wagener cannot be correct historically speaking:
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'The Romans gathered the best students from their whole empire in boarding institutions. There they were taught and trained by the best teachers. This effort did not take the fathers’ profession into consideration. Only foreign races—Negroes and Jews—were excluded. In all other areas, Jews enjoyed Roman liberties; Negroes, on the other hand, were granted them only in exceptional cases, when they had made themselves deserving through especially outstanding achievements for the Empire. Jews could even become ‘Roman Citizens,’ as we see in the case of Saint Paul. But the school for pages—that is, the training school for the young men intended to enter public service—was not open to them. I have a similar institution in mind for Germany.' (Wagener, 1978/1985, p. 289)

I would say the videos posted on that thread are very accurate...

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'What people do in their beds’, Hitler used to say, ‘does not interest me so long as relationships do not prejudice the State and its leadership.’
In the context given these words by Hitler are not explicitly anti-homophobic though, it is more a statist position than anything I would argue. It can be used to prove Hitler could not have been homophobic, however. By itself, it is not an anti-homophobic statement. What about a relationship between a dolphin and a human, as an example?

Not a fan personally of the rest of the Wagener quotes you posted either really. To each their own though, I guess...

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'The third point is that a person must be racially flawless. Let him be Germanic, or Roman, or Chinese, or a Jew, or an Indian, or a Negro, and so on. I respect all equally. We can work with and count on all of them. Each has his established traits. Depending on what one is looking for, this one or that one is to be preferred for the job in question. It is no different with people than with horses or dogs. Once one has established the proper race for a particular task, one can rest assured that the task will be resolved.' (Wagener, 1978/1985, p. 143)

The ultimate goal of Aryanism is to create one universal race. I do not feel that last quote by Wagener is anti-tribalist at all?
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 23, 2022, 11:08:45 am
Well, if you're going to shít on me and my contributions you may as well shít on AS' too, because he quotes Wagener on the main site and list the memoir on the 'Resources About Hitler' page.
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: Panzerfaust on June 23, 2022, 01:02:03 pm
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In the context given these words by Hitler are not explicitly anti-homophobic though, it is more a statist position than anything I would argue. It can be used to prove Hitler could not have been homophobic, however. By itself, it is not an anti-homophobic statement. What about a relationship between a dolphin and a human, as an example?

The correct answer was: Statism by itself implies anti-tribalism, does it not?

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Are you sure you even understand tribalism versus nationalism at all?
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: SirGalahad on June 23, 2022, 03:16:13 pm
Honestly, at this point, I think it's preferable to prove why anti-tribalism and anti-ethnocentrism should be and in fact are key tenets of our ideology, than to prove that Hitler himself was opposed to ethnocentrism. Some of the reasonings provided on the main website for Hitler being opposed to it are convincing, but some of them aren't. I think Aryanism should be able to stand on its own without Hitler, because even after debunking some of the myths conjured by the West against Hitler's regime, I think that the National Socialism of that era was too mired in ethnocentrism. Regardless of whether Mein Kampf was just a publicity stunt or not, it's still the main book that Hitler wrote and was explicitly Nordicist, and Alfred Rosenberg's "The Myth of the 20th Century" also talked about a Nordic race and identified the Aryans with the Indo-Europeans, which is a big no-no for us, given what we now know about the Indo-Europeans. The Indo-Europeans/Vedics were practically the opposite of Aryans. A lot of the people that Hitler surrounded himself with were ethnocentrists in general. That's not to say that Hitler wasn't different from the white tribalists of his time, because he most certainly was. He was clearly a different breed from the likes of Winston Churchill and others of the past who supported western colonialism and racism. But I think there are a few key issues that can't go ignored.

My biggest issue with the narrative of "Hitler was just trying to appeal to the masses, who were mostly racist at the time" is this: How were the communists able to promote an anti-ethnocentric worldview in predominantly white countries at the same exact time as the National Socialists then? If they could do it, then logically, nothing precluded Hitler from promoting an anti-ethnocentric racial theory within Germany if he so desired. But he didn't, so Occam's Razor says that it's most likely that he just didn't know enough about racial theory to form the same conclusions that we have, and ended up falling into the trappings of ethnocentrism because of that informational gap, or perhaps just straight up due to bias
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: guest78 on June 23, 2022, 05:41:31 pm
Honestly, at this point, I think it's preferable to prove why anti-tribalism and anti-ethnocentrism should be and in fact are key tenets of our ideology, than to prove that Hitler himself was opposed to ethnocentrism. Some of the reasonings provided on the main website for Hitler being opposed to it are convincing, but some of them aren't. I think Aryanism should be able to stand on its own without Hitler, because even after debunking some of the myths conjured by the West against Hitler's regime, I think that the National Socialism of that era was too mired in ethnocentrism. Regardless of whether Mein Kampf was just a publicity stunt or not, it's still the main book that Hitler wrote and was explicitly Nordicist, and Alfred Rosenberg's "The Myth of the 20th Century" also talked about a Nordic race and identified the Aryans with the Indo-Europeans, which is a big no-no for us, given what we now know about the Indo-Europeans. The Indo-Europeans/Vedics were practically the opposite of Aryans. A lot of the people that Hitler surrounded himself with were ethnocentrists in general. That's not to say that Hitler wasn't different from the white tribalists of his time, because he most certainly was. He was clearly a different breed from the likes of Winston Churchill and others of the past who supported western colonialism and racism. But I think there are a few key issues that can't go ignored.

My biggest issue with the narrative of "Hitler was just trying to appeal to the masses, who were mostly racist at the time" is this: How were the communists able to promote an anti-ethnocentric worldview in predominantly white countries at the same exact time as the National Socialists then? If they could do it, then logically, nothing precluded Hitler from promoting an anti-ethnocentric racial theory within Germany if he so desired. But he didn't, so Occam's Razor says that it's most likely that he just didn't know enough about racial theory to form the same conclusions that we have, and ended up falling into the trappings of ethnocentrism because of that informational gap, or perhaps just straight up due to bias

Great points! It would have been interesting to see where Hitler took his National Socialism had he not had to fight the Soviets and Bolshevism. Hitler and Goebbels made some excellent points though in the 12 years National Socialism existed, they certainly laid a solid foundation for an ideology to be built upon.
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 23, 2022, 09:10:00 pm
"How were the communists able to promote an anti-ethnocentric worldview in predominantly white countries at the same exact time as the National Socialists then? If they could do it, then logically, nothing precluded Hitler from promoting an anti-ethnocentric racial theory within Germany if he so desired."

I have highlighted your bait-and-switch in bold. Communists promoted blank slate theory as their anti-ethnocentric worldview. But National Socialism rejects blank slate theory on principle. As you say, National Socialism in order to be true to its principles would have to promote an anti-ethnocentric racial theory. This, however, is much harder than promoting blank slate theory. Therefore the fact that communists successfully promoted blank slate theory at best implies that Hitler could also have similarly successfully promoted blank slate theory, but does not imply that Hitler could have similarly successfully promoted an anti-ethnocentric racial theory.

"Occam's Razor says that it's most likely that he just didn't know enough about racial theory to form the same conclusions that we have, and ended up falling into the trappings of ethnocentrism because of that informational gap, or perhaps just straight up due to bias"

I agree that Hitler probably had less information than we have about race, but it remains my belief that he knew (even if on intuition alone) that Rosenberg had screwed up badly, which is why:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_the_Twentieth_Century#Influence_of_the_book

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Adolf Hitler declared that it was not to be considered official ideology of the Nazi Party:

I must insist that Rosenberg's "The Myth of the Twentieth Century" is not to be regarded as an expression of the official doctrine of the party. The moment the book appeared, I deliberately refrained from recognizing it as any such thing. In the first place, its title gives a completely false impression... a National Socialist should affirm that to the myth of the nineteenth century he opposes the faith and science of our times... I have myself merely glanced cursorily at it.[7]

According to journalist Konrad Heiden, Rosenberg had given the manuscript to Hitler to vet before its publication. After a year Hitler still had nothing to say. Hitler gave the still-unread work back to him saying, "I feel sure that it's all right."[11]

As for Mein Kampf:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf#Anti-Slavism_and_Lebensraum_(%22living_space%22)

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Hitler described that when he was in Vienna it was repugnant for him to see the mixture of races “of Czechs, Poles, Hungarians, Ruthenians (Ukrainians), Serbs and Croats, and always that infection which dissolves human society, the Jew, were all here and there and everywhere.”[20]

this is a consistent anti-Turanist attitude (almost identical to what I promote here, by the way). To portray Hitler as an ethnocentrist, your only remaining option is to argue that Hitler was a narrow Germanic ethnocentrist who considered even speakers of other branches of PIE-derived languages too ancestrally distant from speakers of Germanic languages. But then:

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He also wrote that he viewed the Japanese victory over the Russians in the Russo-Japanese War in 1904 as a “blow to Austrian Slavism”.[21]

That he was happy about this makes it impossible for his worldview to be based in any kind of ethnocentrism (unless you want to argue that he believed that Germans and Japanese had common ancestors not shared by Russians).

"I think Aryanism should be able to stand on its own without Hitler"

I am confident that it already does. But that doesn't mean we should try to distance ourselves from Hitler either. The reason why most present-day leftists are misguided is because they still believe Hitler was the bad guy in WWII. Without clearing this up, all leftist rhetoric will continue to sound confused (e.g. comparing Israel to "Nazis"). If we were to stay silent on Hitler, eventually we will get (possibly well-meaning) leftists joining us who start to use similar rhetoric, which will surely corrupt our movement. It is to scare away such leftists from joining that we make such a big show of holding up Hitler as one of our heroes.
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: guest78 on June 23, 2022, 10:54:41 pm
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How were the communists able to promote an anti-ethnocentric worldview in predominantly white countries at the same exact time as the National Socialists then?

The fact that anyone could bring themselves to say such a thing considering proven Russian "whiteness" present day, Russia's colonial past, and the Jewishness of Marx himself, boggles the mind!

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"Cuckservative" is a pejorative[1] formed as a portmanteau of "cuck", an abbreviation of the word "cuckold", and the political designation "conservative".[2] It has become a label used by white nationalists and the alt-right in the United States.[3][4][5][6] The word "cuckservative" reached a high level of mainstream political conversation around mid-July 2015, where it gained media attention just a few weeks before the start of the first Republican primary debate for the 2016 United States presidential election.[4][7]

The term, as well as the shortened form "cuck" for cuckold, originated on websites such as 4chan (specifically the /pol/ imageboard) and 8chan, the right-wing message board My Posting Career,[1][3] the blog The Right Stuff,[8] and other sites associated with the alt-right.[3][9][10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckservative

You can lead a conservative and communist to water, but you cannot stop them from shitting in it!

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The slaughter of the firstborn reveals that clearly enough. Just as they have done with us, the Jews had won the great lower stratum of the population for themselves -- 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity!' -- until one night they sent out the order, 'Down with the bourgeois! Kill them, the dogs!' but things didn't turn out so well as they had expected.
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/Bolshevism_From_Moses_to_Lenin.pdf

Illiterates!

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/turanian-diffusion/?message=14246
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 24, 2022, 12:02:51 pm
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...Chamberlain nowhere gives a specific morphological identity to his "German," although he does wax enthusiastic over the tall, blond dolichocephal (long head). On the other hand he suggests, perhaps taking his cue from Gobineau, who was convinced of the heterogeneity of the Aryan type, that some of the purest "Germans" are brunets, even raven-haired. Nor does Chamberlain deny creativity nor value to other races. So there is evidence that the National Socialist theory of race at this time was more than somewhat vague and indeterminate, at least with respect to the problem of how one identified one's select race. Nowhere in the early literature of the Movement does the designation "Nordic" figure with any prominence, least of all in Hitler's public statements. Even at the close of this first period, in 1930, when Rosenberg's Mythos appeared, his use of the word "Nordic" was strictly qualified by this pronouncement: "…nothing would be more superficial than to measure a man's worth by his physical appearance (with a centimeter rule and cephalic indices). A far more accurate measure of worth is conduct."
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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By 1938 Ludwig Ferdinand Clauss mocked the entire procedure of assigning certain mental traits ("ability to make judgments," "love of truth," etc.) to specific races as distinguishing characteristics. "It is true", he said, "that Nordic men are capable of making judgments. No one denies that. No one denies, for that matter, that Nordic men occasionally eat, drink and sleep - it only seems doubtful that these characteristics would distinguish them from men of other races."
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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...Similarly, if all creativity derives from Nordic blood why have the most prominent men in European history been of manifestly mixed racial origin? "Many of the men," Fischer, Baur and Lenz contended, "who are universally regarded as the greatest in history (for instance, Socrates, Michelangelo, Luther, Goethe and Beethoven) were obviously of mixed race. Speaking generally, it is exceptional to find that distinguished men exhibit a pure racial type." And, of course, as a corollary to that even sincere friends were driven to ask of these enthusiastic adherents of Nordicism: why did the Nordic Race, where it had been preserved from the admixture of lower potential, in Scandinavia and Northern Europe in general, have to wait until it was stimulated by bastard peoples from the Mediterranean before it developed any advanced culture of its own?
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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...For in a genetically mixed population there is no simple correlation between physical appearance and potentiality so that an individual possessed of the racial livery of the Nordic must also have a Nordic soul. Characteristics are transmitted through a particular chromosomal substance, the gene. In a mixed population each individual inherits a total of anywhere from 10,000 to 45,000 genes. With a random mixture, conducted over at least the last three thousand years (i.e., the presence of mixed types in the earliest "Nordic" graves87 ) the number of gene combinations would be infinite - meaning that the correlation coefficient between physical and psychic characteristics could, mathematically, be expected to be nil. More precisely one could not say with any assurance that an individual displaying all the physical traits of the Nordic race was equally possessed with (presuming there to be any) Nordic mental characteristics. The chances that an individual in contemporary Europe should have inherited from an astronomical number of ancestors only Nordic traits are millions to one.
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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Günther was to be specifically rejected. While recognizing the fact that his books had served to stimulate inquiry into the intricate problems of race, the pernicious aspects of the "Nordic hypothesis" were decried. The enthusiasm with which Günther's ideas had been accepted, Weinert wrote, precipitated conclusions for which "there was no biological foundation… The consequence was often that an unfounded race-pride threatened to sunder the German people."
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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The first clear statement on official reorientation had come from Hitler himself only seven months after he came to power, at the 1933 Nuremberg Parteitag. Hitler said: "We do not conclude from a man's physical type his ability, but rather from his achievements his race."
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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Thieme repeats Hitler's principle and adds "the men who bear the qualities of heroism, strength of will, a readiness to sacrifice and faith have played a decisive role in deciding Germany's destiny, and they shall continue to do so even if they are not all tall, blond or blue-eyed."
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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Eichenauer goes so far as to inform his readers that the amount of Nordic blood an individual possesses means nothing (spielt keine Rolle) in the Nordic scheme of things because "it has often enough been the case that men of extremely mixed race (stark gemischter Rasse) have conceived and more powerfully grasped these notions than the predominantly Nordic."
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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In mid-1936 the Nationalsocialistische Korrespondenz stated with clarity and authority: "From his deeds one can recognize the Nordic man - not from the length of his nose and the colour of his eyes." In effect this last phase of National Socialist race theory was a complete rejection of Günther's Nordicism.
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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...We are told that "the races distinguish themselves not through their characteristics; for the same characteristics can be found in different races…For example a Mediterranean can be as courageous as a Nordic, an Alpine as musical as a Dinaric, an East Balt as cunning as a Nordic. On the other hand not all Mediterraneans are courageous, nor all Nordics. But when a Mediterranean is courageous he is courageous in a 'Mediterranean fashion' as a Nordic would be courageous in a 'Nordic fashion'."
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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Here is an entirely different racism, an entirely different Nordicism than that of Günther and his followers. Here there was no question of general inferiority - it was a question of maintaining an ideal as an archetype for an entire civilization. Germany had a Nordic archetype; its art form was Nordic; its literature and philosophy, its music and institutions were inspired by Nordic ideals. Each German was bequeathed this patrimony from the original racial elements, now inextricably mixed into the German Nation, among which the Nordic predominated. It was not a question of intrinsic worth, national and racial superiority and inferiority tearing asunder the peoples of Europe. There is no transcendental standard by which to evaluate racial differences. A people characteristically Mongolian treasures a Mongolian heritage and ideal, a Mediterranean people a Mediterranean one.
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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Dr. Walter Gross, head of the Rassenpolitische Amt of the National Socialist Party, said: "We appreciate the fact that those of another race are different from us… Whether that other race is 'better' or 'worse' is not possible for us to judge. For this would demand that we transcend our own racial limitations for the duration of the verdict and take on a superhuman, even divine, attitude from which alone an 'impersonal' verdict could be formed on the value or lack of such of the many living forms of inexhaustible Nature." Less than a year later, in 1939, he defined the official position of mature National Socialist race theory: "A serious situation arose through the fact that other people and States, because of German race laws… felt themselves attacked and defamed … For example the whole world of the Far East remained for a long time under the impression that the Germans… had designated them as non-Aryan, and as non-Aryans inferior rabble - (that the) Germans had designated (them) unworthy, second class humanity and that the Germans imagined themselves as the sole bearers of culture… What could we say to those who saw in German racism a fundamental defamation of men of other races? We could do nothing other than, with patience and conviction, repeat that German racism does not evaluate or deprecate other racial groups… It only recognizes, scientifically, that differences exist… We have often been disturbed by the indiscretion or even stupidity in our own land when, just after we had carefully made clear to some people or other that we respected and honoured… their racial qualities, some wild fool manufactured his own ideas about race and declared that these same people were racially inferior and stood somewhere below the cow or the ass, and that their characteristics were degrading or impure and lord knows what else! But such idiotic assertions were repelled and offended not only alien peoples in distant parts of the world but even our own neighbours in Europe, many times even friends of National Socialist Germany bound to us historically and in destiny."
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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...Finally, late in the war, even under the gathering shadows of defeat, the Headquarters of the Reichsfuehrer SS published the work of Dr. Ludwig Eckstein. He carefully dissected the remains of the Nordicism purchased over a decade before at so high a cost, and concluded: "While supporting our own race, and if necessary fighting against other races to protect its right to existence, we should not overlook the fact that almost all races display something in themselves that is sound and biologically resolved and therefore beautiful, natural and valuable… Each race carries first of all the measure of worth in itself. When once we understand this then we do not foster feelings of inferiority in others, a consequence that the hitherto existing race theories have too often achieved…"
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)

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In Italy the same tendencies revealed themselves in the Fascist Race Manifesto of 1938, and in the work of Maggiore and Franzi. Everywhere the talk was no longer of fixed and immutable races, but of races in formation, the components for which arise out of the crucible of the past - races in formation cast over by the ideal of a living heritage - for Germany a Nordic Mythos, for Italy an animating devotion of Romanita. The talk is of races yet to be fashioned by living an ideal, united by a common destiny, nurtured in a common environment, the political expression of which is Nationhood. Here are the germs of a worldview which makes of man a creator, a builder of future races; a philosophy which unites history, politics and race, eugenics and humanism, pride in self and respect for others, a philosophy scientifically sound and emotionally satisfying.
(A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: SirGalahad on June 24, 2022, 10:45:36 pm
@90sRetroFan

"Communists promoted blank slate theory as their anti-ethnocentric worldview. But National Socialism rejects blank slate theory on principle. As you say, National Socialism in order to be true to its principles would have to promote an anti-ethnocentric racial theory. This, however, is much harder than promoting blank slate theory. Therefore the fact that communists successfully promoted blank slate theory at best implies that Hitler could also have similarly successfully promoted blank slate theory, but does not imply that Hitler could have similarly successfully promoted an anti-ethnocentric racial theory."

I agree that anti-ethnocentric race theory would be more difficult to promote than blank slate theory, but the real question is whether it would have made Hitler's mission that much harder. He was already struggling in a war where everyone was attacking him on all sides, so he really had nothing to lose by openly promoting something more similar to what we promote now. And the world honestly would have been better for it, because it would have been impossible to slander National Socialism with 99% of the accusations currently levied against it. Imagine how easy our job would be if it had always been obvious from the beginning that National Socialism was anti-racist. Historical baggage is the #1 reason why our ranks aren't growing nearly as fast as we wish they would. The issue is that while you could theoretically make a case that Hitler was anti-racist and believed in a theory that was in conflict with ethnocentrism, as has been done on the main site, there just isn't enough definitive evidence to definitively prove the case. To make our case of Hitler's true beliefs and character relies on too many assumptions, which is only natural since I'm sure we can both at least agree that Hitler never stated outright what his true beliefs were, if he even had any hidden true beliefs, and if they were even comparable to our views

"this is a consistent anti-Turanist attitude (almost identical to what I promote here, by the way). To portray Hitler as an ethnocentrist, your only remaining option is to argue that Hitler was a narrow Germanic ethnocentrist who considered even speakers of other branches of PIE-derived languages too ancestrally distant from speakers of Germanic languages."

That would potentially be my assumption, if Hitler could be described as an ethnocentrist. Although I'm sure plenty of white nationalists would argue that Hitler was simply slandering Eastern Europeans for propagandistic purposes, since they were warring against him

"That he was happy about this makes it impossible for his worldview to be based in any kind of ethnocentrism (unless you want to argue that he believed that Germans and Japanese had common ancestors not shared by Russians)."

The "honorary Aryan" thing isn't too convincing for self-described leftists, because it could easily be met with the argument of "Well the people described as honorary Aryans were the ones that were valuable to his war effort in some way." And on the surface, that's a fair assessment to make if you truly believe that Hitler was racist. Also, the apartheid regime of Azania had a similar title of "honorary white" that was applied to the Japanese, Chinese, and the Koreans. So it especially wouldn't be all that convincing for "black" people and white-passing leftists in Azania, or for people who are aware of the former use of this term in apartheid Azania in general


By the way, if you're using the phrase "bait-and-switch" with it's negative association, I would never do such a thing. I respect you far too much, both as a person and as the defacto head of the ideology in its current iteration
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 25, 2022, 01:48:32 am
"he really had nothing to lose by openly promoting something more similar to what we promote now."

By doing that he would have risked Himmler rallying the Nordicists and overthrowing him, and I am sure he sensed this. If he had managed to replace Himmler with Heydrich as the leader of the SS, then it might have been safe enough for him to do what you suggest. But with Heydrich assassinated in 1942, that was dead in the water. From there Hitler's only hope was to win WWII first. We all know how that turned out.

It was in the 1945 "Political Testament of Adolf Hitler" (when Hitler knew he had lost WWII, and hence truly had nothing more to lose) that he came out with the clearest anti-ethnocentric statements, such as:

"I am sure that the Japanese, the Chinese and the peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France."

and

"I feel much more sympathetically inclined to the lowliest Hindu than to any of these arrogant [British] islanders."

Why would he have bothered with such statements (shortly before suicide FFS) if he was not a committed anti-ethnocentrist at heart?

"there just isn't enough definitive evidence to definitively prove the case."

I know, and whereas False Leftists will choose to believe in racist Hitler, True Leftists will choose to believe in anti-racist Hitler. Just like how Judeo-Christians believe in Yahwist Jesus while Gnostic Christians believe in anti-Yahwist Jesus. It is always like this.

"it could easily be met with the argument of "Well the people described as honorary Aryans were the ones that were valuable to his war effort in some way.""

Then how do they explain the quotes above, made after he knew WWII was already lost?

"Also, the apartheid regime of Azania had a similar title of "honorary white" that was applied to the Japanese, Chinese, and the Koreans."

But there were no "Europeans" who were excluded from "whiteness" under Apartheid. Therefore Apartheid could still be argued as ethnocentric (Arctic Alliance style), since it is in fact the case that Japanese are ancestrally more closely related to Dutch than Xhosa are closely related to Dutch.

Hitler, in contrast, included Japanese while excluding Russians, despite it being obvious that Russians are ancestrally much closer to Germans than Japanese are close to Germans. Do you not see the structural difference?
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on June 26, 2022, 12:05:15 pm
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...Hitler disapproved of such [racial] comparisons. He especially opposed reference to physical contrasts of stature, coloring, or physiognomy among German ethnic groups. In 1930 he told an aid, “Discussions about the race problem will only divide the German people further, incite them against one another, atomize them, and in this way make them inconsequential with respect to foreign affairs.” He admonished senior officials of the party to avoid the subject of ethnic diversity in speeches and articles: “Everything that unifies and welds the classes together must be brought forth, what divides them, what re-animates old prejudices, must be avoided. . . .They are the surest way to destroy a community.” He remarked that people should be selected for leadership roles “not according to outward appearance, but by demonstrating inward ability." Goebbels, himself a diminutive man with a slight limp, recorded in his diary in October 1937, “Discussed race policy with Dr. Gross. I reproached him for our flawed standards for making selections. According to them, practically every officer today would be dismissed."
(2013. Richard Tedor, Hitler's Revolution, Ch. 1, 'Racial Hygiene' section)

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Hitler believed that the more capable and fit among the Germans should not set themselves above other groups to preserve or advance their particular bloodline. It was their duty to help elevate the German nation as an entity. As summarized by his chronicler Dr. Henry Picker, Hitler was “firmly resolved to transfer racially excellent military units, such as formations of the Waffen SS, to every region where the indigenous people are substandard. They will provide for the population by replenishing its bloodlines." (The Waffen SS was an elite branch of the German military requiring high physical standards for enrollment.)
(2013. Richard Tedor, Hitler's Revolution, Ch. 1, 'Racial Hygiene' section)

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Though believing in the inequality of mankind, Hitler opposed clique-forming or elitist attitudes among his countrymen’s more gifted persons or ethnic groups. He measured people not by what nature gave them, but by how they contributed their talents, be they lofty or modest, to advance the national community. This was a standard every German could aspire to, regardless of his or her station in society. Personal attitude and endeavor, not the circumstances of birth, determine the superior being. In a speech as chancellor of Germany, Hitler described the evolution of his country into a social, national, and spiritual entity: “The German people came into being no differently than almost every truly creative civilized nation we know of in the world. A numerically small, talented race, capable of organizing and creating civilization, established itself over other peoples in the course of many centuries. It in part absorbed them, in part adapted to them. All members of our people have of course contributed their special talents to this union. It was, however, created by a nation-and-state forming elite alone. This race imposed its language, naturally not without borrowing from those it subjugated. And all shared a common fate for so long, that the life of the people directing the affairs of state became inseparably bound to the life of the gradually assimilating other members. All the while, conqueror and conquered had long become a community. This is our German people of today. . . . Our only wish is that all members contribute their best to the prosperity of our national life. As long as every element gives what it has to give, this element in so doing will help benefit all our lives."
(2013. Richard Tedor, Hitler's Revolution, Ch. 1, 'Racial Hygiene' section)

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Hitler promoted whatever contributed to this goal [unification] and rejected what did not. A literate man with a profound grasp of history, he fashioned a political philosophy that interpreted Germany’s past as a continuous, progressive struggle for independence and unification. Disharmony among the Germans had cost them freedom and life. The Roman Empire had imposed an immoral foreign influence until the Cheruskan Arminius unified prominent German tribes to force the invaders out.
(2013. Richard Tedor, Hitler's Revolution, Ch. 1, 'The Nation as One' section)

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Hitler grew up in the social milieu that Nietzsche criticized for its class distinctions. World War I, during which Hitler saw combat in an infantry regiment, welded various social factions into an entity. “At the front, the feeling of being destined to belong together, the feeling of a community, was by and large reborn,” Gross wrote in Der Schulungsbrief. Hitler and his comrades felt solidarity in the trenches but found it undermined by political discord at home. “The enemy no longer faced the frontline soldier just as an honorable fighting man, but also made trouble behind the front,” a journal for the German armed forces related. During the post-war period, the country suffered economic distress, political disharmony and foreign exploitation. Hitler later declared that when the German people “form a unified bloc, they are a power. When they are divided, they are defenseless and impotent."
(2013. Richard Tedor, Hitler's Revolution, Ch. 1, 'The Nation as One' section)

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By emphasizing German unity, National Socialism followed in the footsteps of the Romans' nemesis Arminius, the Prussian reformers who rose against Napoleon, the statesman Bismarck, and the eminent Nietzsche.The matter of Germany’s moral, social, and political harmony influenced the NSDAP’s stand on virtually every major issue. [In] National Socialism, the journal Der SA. Führer (The SA Officer) wrote, recognized that “the labor question was the cardinal social problem of the 19th and 20th Centuries. ... It confronted liberalism’s materialistic, distorted idea of freedom, which leads to abuse and to the rule of a capitalist minority, with a new freedom; one based on the growth of the individual fellow citizen within the national community according to achievement. Unlike the disfranchisement of labor through liberalism, National Socialism incorporates the worker into German society, elevating him and his accomplishments onto par with the rest of the nation."
(2013. Richard Tedor, Hitler's Revolution, Ch. 1, 'The Nation as One' section)

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Judging someone’s worth according to performance, as far as Hitler was concerned, superseded questions of ethnic standing within the German community. Though many National Socialists based their world view on scientific research on race, the government under Hitler also relied on education to realize human potential. Goebbels wrote in his diary in June 1936, “the Führer sharply disapproves of the work of all the race committees." Hitler based his attitude on the potential negative impact such activities could exercise on national unity.
(2013. Richard Tedor, Hitler's Revolution, Ch. 1, 'The Nation as One' section)

Title: Learn Loyality from Adolf Hitler
Post by: guest30 on June 27, 2022, 12:34:59 am
Hitler choose suicide rather than surrender to the Western Democratic Liberalist power. If he did it. The people from incoming generation will see Hitler as liberal sympathizer

If Hitler wanted to be died because of death punishment by the Marxist troops from the Eastern Europe. The people from incoming generation will see Hitler as Communist sympathizer.

If Hitler commit suicide. Rational people will see Hitler as loyal to his ideas and worldview. Progressives and humanist people see him as "coward" and "irresponsible".

Hitler commit suicide when his troops still fought against the European liberals and communist troops until the end. Therefore Hitler's suicide can be considered as keeping loyality to his Muslim and non-European alliances outside Europe which also fought against that dangerous Western ideological movements.

The result of Hitler's suicide is the rise of anti-Western political culture in modern era, see this writings from the link/URL below :

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/05/the-developing-world-thinks-hitler-is-underrated-duterte-world-war-ii-nazi-politics/

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Title: National Socialist Government are not Culturally Western and Europeans
Post by: guest30 on June 29, 2022, 09:00:10 pm
Dr. Supomo. One of Nusantara's independence planners consider the Hitler's ideology are Eastern by culture, not part of Western culture and civilization. See this photos of writings of his speeches during grand meetings of independence planning on May 31st 1945.  From a book named "RISALAH SIDANG BPUPKI DAN PPKI 28 MEI - 22 AGUSTUS 1945 SEKRETARIAT NEGARA REPUBLIK INDONESIA 1995" page 33, 34, 35



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On Nusantara language, he condemn liberalism, communism, and more prefer to national socialism and integralism :

"Negara ialah suatu susunan masyarakat yang integraal, segala golongan, segala bagian, segala anggotanya berhubungan erat satu sama lain dan merupakan persatuan masyarakat yang organis. Yang terpenting dalam negara yang berdasar aliran pikiran integraal ialah penghidupan bangsa seluruhnya. Negara tidak memihak kepada sesuatu golongan yang paling kuat, atau yang paling besar, tidak menganggap kepentingan seseorang sebagai pusat, akan tetapi negara menjamin keselamatan hidup bangsa seluruhnya sebagai persatuan yang tak dapat dipisah-pisahkan. ...

...

...Dasar susunan hukum negara Eropa Barat ialah perseorangan dan liberalisme. Sifat perseoangan ini, yang mengenai segala lapangan hidup (sistem undang-undang ekonomi, kesenian dan lain-lain), memisah-misahkan manusia sebagai seseorang dari masyarakatnya, mengasingkan diri dari segala pergaulan yang lain. Seorang manusia dan negara yang dianggap sebagai seseorang pula, selalu segala-galanya itu menimbulkan imperialisme dan sistem memeras (uitbuitings systeem) membikin kacau-balaunya dunia lahir batin. ...

Tuan-tuan telah mengerti sendiri bahwa sifat demikian harus kita jauhkan dari pembangunan Negara Indonesia ...

Dasar susunan negara Sovyet Rusia pada masa sekarang, ialah diktaktur dari proletariaat. Boleh jadi dasar itu sesuai dengan keistimewaan keadaan sosial dari negeri Rusia, akan tetapi dasar pengertian negara itu bertentangan dengan sifat masyarakat Indonesia yang asli.

Lain negara, ialah negara Jerman nasional sosialis sebelumnya menyerah dalam peperangan sekarang. Negara itu berdasar atas aliran pikiran negara totaliter, das Ganze der politischen Einheit des Volkes (integrate theory). Prinsip "Pimpinan (Führung) sebagai Kernbegriff (ein totaler Führerstaat) dan sebagai prinsip yang dipakainya juga ialah persamaan darah dan persamaan daerah (Blut und Boden Theorie) antara pimpinan dan rakyat.

Tuan-tuan yang terhormat, dari aliran pikiran nasional sosialis, ialah prinsip persatuan antara pimpinan dan rakyat dan prinsip persatuan dalam negara seluruhnya cocok dengan aliran pikiran ketimuran." - Prof. Mr. Dr. Soepomo saat rapat besar sidang Badan Pelaksanaan Untuk Kemerdekaan Indonesia pada 31 Mei 1945

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On English colonial language :

"The state is an integral community structure, all groups, all parts, all of its members are closely related to each other and are an organic community unity. The most important thing in a state based on the integraal school of thought is the livelihood of the nation as a whole. The state does not take sides with the strongest or the largest group, does not regard one's interests as the center, but the state guarantees the safety of the entire nation's life as an inseparable unity.

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...The basis of the legal structure of Western European countries is individualism and liberalism. This individual nature, which affects all fields of life (economic law systems, arts, etc.), separates man as a person from his society, isolates himself from all other associations. A human being and a country are also considered as a person, everything always gives rise to imperialism and a blackmailing system (uitbuitings systeem) that causes chaos in the world and in the inner and outer world. ...

Gentlemen, you have understood for yourself that we must keep this nature away from the development of the State of Indonesia...

The basis of the structure of the Soviet-Russian state at the present time is the dictatorship of the proletariat. It may be that the basis is in accordance with the peculiarities of the social conditions of the Russian state, but the basic understanding of the state is contrary to the nature of the original Indonesian people.

Another country, the former national socialist Germany surrendered in the present war. The state is based on the totalitarian state of thought, das Ganze der politicchen Einheit des Volkes (integrate theory). The principle of "Leader (Führung) as Kernbegriff (ein totaler Führerstaat) and as a principle he also uses the equality of blood and regional equality (Blut und Boden Theorie) between the leadership and the people.

Dear Sirs, from the national socialist school of thought, the principle of unity between the leadership and the people and the principle of unity within the state are entirely compatible with the Eastern school of thought." - Prof. Mr. Dr. Soepomo during a large meeting of the Institution of Implementation  for Indonesian Independence on May 31, 1945
Title: Re: Homophobia is not American
Post by: christianbethel on June 30, 2022, 12:47:16 pm
Just came across this article containing excerpts from The Pink Swastika: https://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=PinkSwastika
I know it's Zionist bullshìt, but I found and will embolden key excerpts here:

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The pink triangle, symbol of the "gay rights" movement, is familiar to many Americans. As the badge used by the Nazis to designate homosexuals in the concentration camps, the pink triangle perfectly expresses the message of "gay rights."... While some homosexuals were interned in Nazi work camps, the role of homosexuals in Nazi history cannot be accurately represented solely by a pink triangle.

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Betraying his roots in the "Butch" faction of the German "gay rights" movement, [Ernst] Röhm viewed homosexuality as the basis for a new society. Louis Snyder writes that Röhm "...projected a social order in which homosexuality would be regarded as a human behavior pattern of high repute...he flaunted his homosexuality in public and insisted that his cronies do the same. What was needed, Röhm believed, was a proud and arrogant lot who could brawl, carouse, smash windows, kill and slaughter for the hell of it. Straights, in his eyes, were not as adept in such behavior as practicing homosexuals" (Snyder:55) "The principle function of this army-like organization," writes historian Thomas Fuchs, "was beating up anyone who opposed the Nazis, and Hitler believed this was a job best undertaken by homosexuals" (Fuchs:48f).

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"Gay Holocaust" revisionists assert that Hitler's ascension to the Chancellorship marked the beginning of a homosexual Holocaust in Germany. For example, in The Pink Triangle, Richard Plant writes, "After years of frustration...Hitler's storm troopers now had the opportunity to smash their enemies: the lame, the mute, the feebleminded, the epileptic, the homosexual, the Jew, the Gypsy, the communist. These were the scapegoats singled out for persecution. These were the 'contragenics' who were to be ruthlessly eliminated to ensure the purity of the 'Aryan race.'" (Plant:51). Rector, another revisionist, makes a similar statement: "Hitler's homophobia did not surface until 1933-1934, when gays had come to affect adversely his New Order designs-out of which grew the simple solution of murdering them en masse" (Rector:24). The fact is that homosexuals were never murdered "en masse" or "ruthlessly eliminated" by the Nazis. Yet many homosexuals were persecuted and some did die in Nazi work camps. What is the truth about Nazi persecution of homosexuals? There are several incidents in Nazi history which are most often cited as evidence of a "gay Holocaust." This list includes a series of increasingly harsh public pronouncements and policies against homosexuality by Hitler and Himmler, the sacking of the Sex Research Institute of Berlin, "the Röhm Purge" (also known as "the Night of the Long Knives"), and the internment of homosexuals in work camps. The law against homosexual conduct had existed in Germany for many years prior to the Nazi regime as Paragraph 175 of the Reich Criminal Code, to wit: "A male who indulges in criminally indecent activity with another male, or who allows himself to participate in such activity, will be punished with imprisonment" (Burleigh and Wipperman:188). When Hitler came to power he used this law as a means of tracking down and punishing those homosexuals who, in the words of one victim, "had defended the Weimar Republic, and who had tried to forestall the Nazi threat" (ibid.:183). Later he expanded the law and used it as a convenient tool to detain other enemies of the regime. In February of 1933, Hitler banned pornography, homosexual bars and bath-houses, and groups which promoted "gay rights" (Plant:50). Ostensibly, this decree was a blanket condemnation of all homosexual activity in Germany, but in practice it served as just another means to find and destroy anti-Nazi groups and individuals. "Hitler," admit Oosterhuis and Kennedy, "employed the charge of homosexuality primarily as a means to eliminate political opponents, both inside his party and out." (Oosterhuis and Kennedy: 248). The masculine homosexuals chief officials in the Nazi leadership selectively enforced this policy only against their enemies and not against all homosexuals. Even Rector lends credence to this perspective, citing the fact that the decree "was not enforced in all cases" (Rector:66). In 1935, Paragraph 175 was amended with Paragraph 175a which criminalized any type of behavior that could be construed as indicating a homosexual inclination or desire (Burleigh and Wipperman: 190). (Interestingly, the new criminal code addressing homosexuality deleted the word "unnatural" from the definition - Reisman, 1994:3.)...when [homosexuals] were threatened, many effeminate homosexuals, especially those in the arts community, were given protection by certain Nazi leaders (Oosterhuis and Kennedy:248). Plant writes: The most famous example is that of the actor Gustaf Grundgens... Despite the fact that his homosexual affairs were as notorious as those of Roehm's, Goering appointed him director of the State Theater...[And] On October 29, 1937 ...Himmler advised that actors and other artists could be arrested for offenses against paragraph 175 only with his personal consent, unless the police caught them in flagrante (Plant:116).

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The event in history most frequently cited as evidence of Nazi persecution of homosexuals is known variously as the Blood Purge, the Night of the Long Knives, and the Röhm Purge. The fact that SA leaders were the primary targets in the massacre could therefore be construed as a sort of "moral cleansing" of the Nazi ranks, which, in fact, Hitler claimed it was. But Hitler lied. The Röhm Purge was driven by political, not moral concerns. Hitler feigned disgust and outrage about the homosexuality of the murdered SA leaders to justify himself to the German people; it was a tactic he had used previously to allay public suspicions about the sexual deviancy of his inner circle. The importance of this fact is asserted in many leading works by both mainstream and homosexualist historians:
'Hitler eliminated his closest friend Röhm and certain SA leaders as potential rivals. The strictly political motivation of this ruthless power play was initially too obvious to be entirely denied, but later it was conveniently obscured by charges of homosexual depravity.' (Haberle:369f).
'Ernst Röhm wasn't shot because the Nazi Party felt outraged by the abrupt discovery that he was "having" his storm troopers-that had been known for ages; but because his sway over the SA had become a menace to Hitler...'
'Hitler himself, of course, had been well aware of Röhm's sexual orientation from the earliest days of their long association....So strong was Röhm that the Wehrmacht [German Army High Command] was concerned that he might seize control of the army. In 1934, Hitler became fearful that the Wehrmacht was plotting a coup against him to prevent such a takeover. To forestall this danger, Hitler had Röhm and about one thousand other men murdered one weekend in June 1934, the famous "Night of the Long Knives" (Crompton:79f).
Igra provides us with a long and detailed account of the power struggle which led to the purge, beginning with a refutation of the idea that it represented a policy of extermination of homosexuals by Hitler: 'We shall find that, far from eliminating the sex perverts from his party, Hitler retained most of them, and that he moved against those whom he did eliminate only with the greatest reluctance and after he had been relentlessly pushed by outside forces and circumstances. On June 14 and 15 Hitler was in Venice to see Mussolini. It soon became common knowledge that the German Dictator and his entourage had made an unfavorable impression upon the Italians... Mussolini was never a stickler for puritan morality, to say the least, but there was one vice which the Italians particularly loathe; they call it il visio tedesco, the German vice. The conduct of some members in Hitler's entourage at Venice disgusted the Italians. Mussolini protested against the moral character and political unreliability of the leading personnel in the Nazi Storm Troops and warned Hitler that he would have to sacrifice his favorite colleagues if he wished to save his own personal prestige and that of his regime. Among those colleagues, Röhm, Heines and Karl Ernst were mentioned (Igra:77f). The Röhm Purge, then, was not a "moral cleansing" of the Nazi ranks, but a re-alignment of power behind the German government which was primarily forced upon Hitler by powerful political elements whose support he needed to maintain control. Igra goes on to point out that not only did the majority of the SA homosexuals survive the purge, but that the massacre was largely implemented by homosexuals. He cites Strasser's statement that "the Chief Killers of Munich [were] Wagner, Esser, Maurice, Weber and Buch." These men "were all known to be sex perverts or sexual maniacs of one type or another," concludes Igra (ibid.:80). Plant records that the larger campaign of assassinations across Germany was orchestrated by Reinhard Heydrich, also a well-known homosexual (Plant:56). Igra addresses Hitler's justification for the purge: In his defense before the Reichstag a week later Hitler talked of "traitors." That was his alibi...In his speech to the Reichstag he admitted that one of the motives for ordering the massacre was to get rid of the moral perverts in his party and that they were traitors because they practiced homosexualism. But under the dictatorship it was not possible for anyone to put Hitler at question. Nobody asked him to explain how it was that, if his purpose was to get rid of homosexuals, he really didn't rid himself of them but used them as the instruments of his own murder lust and still retained most of them as members of his personal entourage, as well as in key positions of the party organization and the government. Otto Strasser, in his book, The German St. Bartholemew's Night (which has not been published in English), mentions sixteen of these highly placed homosexualist officials who survived the massacres of June 30 and retained their posts (Igra:82).
Title: Adolf Hitler the Anti-White Radical
Post by: guest30 on July 01, 2022, 01:24:43 am
See the information about recorded Hitler's speeches and conversations from his closest associate, Walther Hewel, from book "Jejak Hitler di Indonesia" by Hoorst H. Geerken :

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On Nusantara language :

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"16 Desember 1941 : Führer tentang Jepang : Mengherankan bahwa kita, dengan bantuan Jepang, sedang menghancurkan posisi-posisi ras kulit putih di Asia Timur sedangkan Inggris bersama kaum Bolshevist malah menyerang Eropa. Ras kulit putih maksudnya Belanda di Hindia Timur, Inggris di Burma, Malaya dan Singapura, AS di Filipina dan Perancis di Indochina.

...

Ucapan Hitler tentang Jepang dikemukakan 16 Desember, satu minggu setelah Jepang memulai gerakan ofensifnya ke Asia Tenggara. Hal tersebut berkaitan dengan pernyataan Hitler di radio yang kemudian juga disiarkan oleh radio Jepang dan pers Jepang bahwa mereka sekarang sedang menunaikan suatu perang suci melawan ras kulit putih bersama satu milyar penduduk Asia. ..."

On English Colonial Language :

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"December 16, 1941: Führer on Japan: It is surprising that we, with the help of Japan, are destroying the positions of the white race in East Asia while Britain and the Bolshevists are attacking Europe. White race means the Dutch in the East Indies, the British in Burma, Malaya and Singapore, the US in the Philippines and France in Indochina.

...

Hitler's remarks about Japan were made on December 16, one week after Japan began its offensive into Southeast Asia. This is related to Hitler's statement on the radio which was later broadcast by Japanese radio and the Japanese press that they are now waging a holy war against the white race with one billion people in Asia. ..."

Source : Jejak Hitler di Indonesia, by Hoorst H. Geerken page 210

If Anti-White sentiment goes too far...


Title: Hitler Regime's Assistance to the Nusantara People's Struggle of Independence, the Forgotten History
Post by: guest30 on July 01, 2022, 02:43:20 am
Hitler Regime's Assistance to the Nusantara People's Struggle of Independence, the Forgotten History

See the writings of the book below :



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On Nusantara Language :

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"...Di antara kaum pribumi, ada saja yang tidak melihat negatif langkah kebijakan Hitler. Mereka memandang dalam sosok Hitler figur "pembebas" yang pada akhirnya dianggap akan membuka peluang membebaskan diri mereka dari belenggu penjajah. Kelompok-kelompok nasionalis menerima ledakan jumlah anggota setelah angkatan perang Jerman menduduki tanah air tuan-tuan penjajah mereka, yang memberi harapan bahwa mereka pun akan segera mematahkan belenggu hukum kolonial.

...

Salah satu partai yang menonjol di kalangan pribumi adalah Partai Indonesia Raya (Parindra), yang didirikan oleh Sartono, Amir Sjarifuddin, dan M. Husni Thamrin pada tahun 1935. Pada 6 Januari 1941, Husni Thamrin dituduh oleh penguasa kolonial mempunyai ikatan yang terlalu dekat dengan Nazi Jerman dan Jepang. Ia dikenakan tahanan rumah, tetapi hanya lima hari kemudian, pada 11 Januari, ia meninggal dalam keadaan yang masih belum dapat dijelaskan sampai hari ini. Sayap Pemuda Parindra benar-benar merupakan foto kopi dari Pemuda Hitler Jerman, termasuk dalam seragam dan "salam Hitler" nya.

...

Semua partai nasionalis dan partai-partai yang dekat dengan Hitler punya satu tujuan yang sama, yakni Indonesia Merdeka! Mereka melihat tujuan ini kian mendekati kenyataan ketika tentara Hitler berbaris menuju Belanda. Di mata mereka, Jerman sedang bertempur, ikut membuka jalan bagi pihak mereka.

Sebagaimana sudah kita lihat, bukan hanya orang Indonesia, melainkan juga sementara orang Belanda yang mendukung Hitler dan gerakan Nazi di tanah air mereka sendiri maupun di negeri-negeri jajahannya-ratusan ribu dari mereka dengan antusias mengangkat tangan kanan dalam "salam Hitler". Ketika pewaris takhta Belanda, Putri Juliana menikah dengan Pangeran Bernhard tahun 1937, bendera swastika Jerman berkibar di samping bendera Belanda di Hindia Belanda

...

Kaum pribumi sekarang melihat kesempatan untuk mencampakkan belenggu kolonialisme dan menaruh harapan mereka kepada Hitler. Setelah mencaplok Austria dan Sudetenland, juga gerak cepatnya yang sukses gemilang ke arah front barat dan timur, Hitler sangat dikagumi kaum pribumi di Asia Tenggara dan India. Suasana batin di Hindia Belanda waktu itu adalah seperti ini : Jika Hitler masuk ke tanah Jawa, setiap orang akan menyambutnya dengan taburan bunga.

Saya sudah mewawancarai banyak saksi mata yang dapat dipercaya, yang masih selamat melewati masa Perang Dunia II dan masa pendudukan Jepang. Mereka dilatih dalam Peta (Organisasi Tentara Pembela Tanah Air) dan terjun dalam perang kemerdekaan. Orang-orang ini datang dari semua golongan masyarakat. Pada awal 1963 masih ada setengah juta mantan pejuang, anggota laskar, dan partisan di Indonesia yang berhimpun dalam berbagai asosiasi veteran. Oleh karena itu, banyak orang dapat mengatakan siapa-siapa saja yang pernah berjuang.

Saya juga pernah mendengar dari mereka bahwa Jerman, selama pendudukan Jepang, memberikan bantuan militer untuk memperlengkapi Peta, seperti topi baja, kantong air, dan peralatan masak. Jerman juga memasok perlengkapan berat seperti truk, sepeda motor DKW RT 125, BMW, dan Triumph. Bahkan, Jerman memberikan pesawat amfibi Dornier. Teman-teman saya di Indonesia juga membenarkan bahwa mereka, seperti kebanyakan pejuang perang kemerdekaan pasca-proklamasi 1945, bertempur melawan tentara Belanda dan Inggris dengan memakai topi baja dari Jerman. Mereka katakan, para opsir Jerman juga pernah melatih tentara Indonesia, sementara para pelaut Jerman turut ambil bagian dalam perjuangan kemerdekaan. Saya lantas tertarik untuk menindaklanjuti informasi "baru" ini.

Sejak tiba di Jakarta tahun 1963, saya rutin mengunjungi pasar loak di Jalan Surabaya. Anda dapat menemukan barang apa saja di sana : barang antik, radio, dan barang curian. Toko-toko yang normal hampir selalu kosong persediaan barang kurun itu, tetapi di Jalan Surabaya jangan ditanya. Hampir semua barang tersedia. Jika anda datang ke sana dengan maksud ingin berbelanja barang tertentu hendaklah "berhati-hati" dengan barang Anda. Sebab pasar gelap yang "resmi" dan pasar para pencopet.

Saya terhenyak menemukan banyak peninggalan tentara Nazi Jerman di sana: ratusan topi baja, bayonet dan pistol Mauser, peralatan masak, kantong air, sepatu bot tentara Jerman, dan lain sebagainya. Karena rasa ingin tahu, saya membeli sebuah botol minum, panci, dan topi baja. Saya hadiahkan topi baja itu kepada seorang tentara Indonesia, mantan pejuang. Ketika ia meninggal, istrinya menaruh topi baja itu di atas pusaranya.

...

Agaknya, Hewel menggunakan pengaruhnya pada Hitler untuk mendukung pergerakan kebangsaan menuju Indonesia merdeka. Bagaimanapun, bahan baku dari negeri ini sangat penting bagi Hitler. Dan sebagaimana ditunjukkan oleh tulisan-tulisan di buku catatan harian Hewel, Hindia Belanda sering menjadi bahan percakapan mereka di sore hari. Oleh karena itu Hewel menggunakan setiap asumsi bahwa Hitler akhirnya mengizinkan Hewel, yang ahli tentang kawasan ini, memberikan bantuan Jerman untuk Peta.

Hewel tidak hanya memiliki kesempatan untuk mendapat dukungan Hitler, ia juga mendapat bantuan dari pembantu-pembantu berpengaruh Hitler lainnya. Di Berlin ada triumvirat lingkaran dalam Hitler yang dekat dengan rakyat, kebudayaan, dan seluruh kepulauan Indonesia. Mereka bertiga ini mendukung terbebasnya negeri ini dari kolonial Belanda, sekalipun Jepanglah yang memainkan peran utama dalam pendirian PETA."

Sumber : "Jejak Hitler di Indonesia" by Hoorst Henry Geerken halaman 99, 100, 101, 155, 254, 255, 256


On English Colonial Language :

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"...Among the natives, there are those who do not see the negatives of Hitler's policy steps. They see in Hitler a figure of a "liberator"who in the end is considered to be an opportunity to free themselves from the shackles of colonialism. Nationalist groups accept the explosion in the number of members after the German army occupied the homeland of their colonial masters, which gave hope that they too would soon break the shackles of colonial law.

...

One of the prominent parties among the natives was the Great Indonesia Party (Parindra), which was founded by Sartono, Amir Sjarifuddin, and M. Husni Thamrin in 1935. On January 6, 1941, Husni Thamrin was accused by the colonial authorities of having too close ties to Nazi Germany and Japan. He was placed under house arrest, but just five days later, on January 11, he died in circumstances that remain unexplained to this day. The Parindra Youth Wing is actually a photocopy of the German Hitler Youth, included in its uniform and "Hitler greetings".

...

All nationalist parties and parties close to Hitler have the same goal, namely an independent Indonesia! They saw this goal closer to reality as Hitler's army marched towards the Netherlands. In their eyes, Germany was at war, helping to pave the way for their side.

As we have seen, not only Indonesians, but also some Dutch people who supported Hitler and the Nazi movement in their own homeland as well as in the colonies – hundreds of thousands of them enthusiastically raised their right hands in "Hitler salutes". When the heir to the Dutch throne, Princess Juliana married Prince Bernhard in 1937, the German swastika flag flew next to the Dutch flag in the Dutch East Indies

...

The natives now saw an opportunity to throw off the shackles of colonialism and put their hope in Hitler. After annexing Austria and the Sudetenland, as well as his successful rapid movement towards the western and eastern fronts, Hitler was greatly admired by the natives in Southeast Asia and India. The inner atmosphere in the Dutch East Indies at that time was like this: If Hitler entered Java, everyone would welcome him with a sprinkling of flowers.

I have interviewed many reliable eyewitnesses who have survived World War II and the Japanese occupation. They were trained in Peta (Organization of Army Defender of the Fatherland) and took part in the war for independence. These people come from all walks of life. In early 1963 there were still half a million former fighters, laskar members, and partisans in Indonesia who belonged to various veterans' associations. Therefore, many people can say anyone who has ever struggled.

I've also heard from them that Germany, during the Japanese occupation, provided military assistance to equip the Map, such as helmets, water bags, and cooking utensils. Germany also supplies heavy equipment such as trucks, DKW RT 125, BMW and Triumph motorcycles. In fact, Germany provided the Dornier seaplane. My friends in Indonesia also confirmed that they, like most fighters in the post-proclamation war for independence in 1945, fought against the Dutch and British troops wearing German helmets. They said that German officers had also trained Indonesian soldiers, while German navy had taken part in the struggle for independence. I was then interested in following up on this "new" information.

Since arriving in Jakarta in 1963, I have regularly visited the flea market on Jalan Surabaya. You can find just about anything there: antiques, radios, and swag. Normal shops were almost always empty during that period, but don't ask questions on Jalan Surabaya. Almost all items are available. If you come there with the intention of shopping for certain items, you should be "careful" with your items. Because the black market is "official" and the market for pickpockets.

I was surprised to find many relics of Nazi Germany soldiers there: hundreds of helmets, bayonets and Mauser pistols, cooking utensils, water bags, German army boots, and so on. Out of curiosity, I bought a water bottle, a pot, and a headpiece. I gifted the helmet to an Indonesian soldier, a former fighter. When he died, his wife put the helmet on his grave.

...

Presumably, Hewel used his influence on Hitler to support the national movement towards an independent Indonesia. After all, the raw materials of this country were very important to Hitler. And as the writings in Hewel's diary show, the Dutch East Indies were often the subject of their afternoon conversation. Hewel therefore used every assumption that Hitler eventually allowed Hewel, who was an expert on the area, to provide German assistance for Peta.

Hewel not only had the opportunity to gain Hitler's support, he also had the help of other influential aides of Hitler. In Berlin there was a triumvirate of Hitler's inner circle who was close to the people, culture and the entire Indonesian archipelago. The three of them supported the independence of this country from Dutch colonialism, even though it was Japan who played a major role in the establishment of PETA."

Source : "Jejak Hitler di Indonesia" by Hoorst Henry Geerken page 99, 100, 101, 155, 254, 255, 256


Title: Hitler's Regime Assistance to the Ethiopian People against Italian Colonial Troops, Forgotten History
Post by: guest30 on July 01, 2022, 03:19:05 am
Let's see the writings from the book named "Delivered from Evil: The Saga of World War II". New York: Harper & Row. ISBN 978-0-06-015812-5. page 64 which marked by red circle

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Historical writings show that the government of the Nazi regime had provided firearms and ammunition to black people in Ethiopia who fought against the Italian colonial army from 1935 to 1937.

Source: The book "Delivered from Evil: The Saga of World War II". New York: Harper & Row. ISBN 978-0-06-015812-5. page 64

Website source: https://archive.org/details/deliveredfromevi00leck_0/page/64/mode/2up


Wikipedia source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Italo-Ethiopian_War
Title: Hitler's Method on Political Work Confirmed
Post by: guest30 on July 01, 2022, 03:46:28 am
Hitler's Method on Political Work Confirmed, in Accordance with True Left Community's Observance.

See the writings of the page below :

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On Nusantara Language :

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"Pada 2 Juni 1941 : Führer berkata : sebagai pribadi, saya tak pernah melanggar janji. Tapi sebagai seorang politisi, bagi Jerman, bila perlu ribuan kali.

Pada 30 April 1943, ketika Menteri Luar Negeri Ribbentrop meminta daftar semua perjanjian yang telah ia tandatangani, Hewel melaporkan bahwa Hitler tertawa mengejek karena sangat sedikit dari perjanjian-perjanjian itu yang tidak dilanggar oleh Jerman!"

On English Colonial Language :

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"On June 2, 1941: The Führer said: as a person, I have never broken a promise. But as a politician, for Germany, if necessary thousands of times.

On April 30, 1943, when Foreign Minister Ribbentrop asked for a list of all the treaties he had signed, Hewel reported that Hitler laughed mockingly because very few of the treaties were not broken by Germany!"

Source: "Jejak Hitler di Indonesia" by Hoorst Henry Geerken page 209
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on July 01, 2022, 02:22:31 pm
@kameradbaren Thank you for posting pictures of text I can't read or understand.
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: guest30 on July 01, 2022, 10:04:19 pm
@christianbethel

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@kameradbaren Thank you for posting pictures of text I can't read or understand.

No more hostility to me. Incompetent people cannot be condemned forever
Title: Learning About Western Civilization
Post by: guest30 on July 04, 2022, 12:04:26 am
What is Western Civilization.... From Hitler's perspective

Let's see the written Hitler's thoughts on Book "Political Testament of Adolf Hitler Hitler-Bormann Documents as taken down by Martin Bormann". Recorded on 7th February 1945. 2 months 23 days, or 81 days before his honorable suicide on 30th April 1945.

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Transcript :

"Spain, France and Britain have all enfeebled, devitalized
and drained themselves in these vain colonial enterprises
.
The continents to which Spain and Britain gave birth,
which they created piece by piece, have today acquired a
completely independent way of life and a completely
egoistical outlook. Even so, they are but artificial worlds,
with neither a soul, a culture or a civilization of their own;
and judged from that point of view, they are nothing more
than excrescences.


It is, of course, possible to make out a case for the success
achieved in peopling continents which before had been
empty. The United States and Australia afford good
examples. Success, certainly - but only on the material side.
They are artificial edifices, bodies without age, of which it
is impossible to say whether they are still in a state of
infancy or whether they have already been touched by
senility. In those continents which were inhabited, failure
has been even more marked. In them, the white races have
imposed their will by force, and the influence they have
had on the native inhabitants has been negligible
; the
Hindus have remained Hindus, the Chinese have remained
Chinese, and the Moslems are still Moslems. There have
been no profound transformations, and such changes as
have occurred are less marked in the religious field,
notwithstanding the tremendous efforts of the Christian
missionaries, than in any other. There have been a few odd
conversions the sincerity of which are open to considerable
doubt-except, perhaps in the case of a few simpletons and
mentally deficients. The white races did, of course, give
some things to the natives, and they were the worst gifts
that they could possibly have made, those plagues of our
own modern world-materialism, fanaticism, alcoholism and
syphilis.
For the rest, since these peoples possessed
qualities of their own which were superior to anything we
could offer them, they have remained essentially
unchanged. Where imposition by force was attempted, the
results were even more disastrous, and common sense,
realizing the futility of such measures, should preclude any
recourse to their introduction. One solitary success must be
conceded to the colonizers: everywhere they have
succeeded in arousing hatred
, a hatred that urges these
peoples, awakened from their slumbers by us, to rise and
drive us out. Indeed, it looks almost as though they had
awakened solely and simply for that purpose! Can anyone
assert that colonization has increased the number of
Christians in the world? Where are those conversions en
masse which mark the success of Islam?
Here and there one
finds isolated islets of Christians, Christians in name, that
is, rather than by conviction; and that is the sum total of the
successes of this magnificent Christian religion, the
guardian of supreme Truth!" - Adolf Hitler's recorded conversation on 7th February 1945



Western Civilization ever almost got annihilated. It's time to make it perish forever

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Historical map of resistance to Western Civilization on it's peak on 1942.
Title: Historian View that Hitler was Pro-British and her Colonial Empire Debunked
Post by: guest30 on July 04, 2022, 12:27:26 am
Let's see the written Hitler's thoughts on Book "Political Testament of Adolf Hitler Hitler-Bormann Documents as taken down by Martin Bormann". Recorded on 4th February 1945. 2 months 23 days, or 85 days before his honorable suicide on 30th April 1945.

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Transcript :

"The laws of nature follow a logic which does not
necessarily always conform to our own ideas of logic. We
ourselves were disposed to compromise.
We were ready to
throw our forces into the scales for the preservation of the
British Empire; and all that, mark you, at a time when, to
tell the truth, I feel much more sympathetically inclined to
the lowliest Hindu than to any of these arrogant islanders.

Later on, the Germans will be pleased that they did not
make any contribution to the survival of an out-dated state
of affairs for which the world of the future would have
found it hard to forgive them. We can with safety make one
prophecy: whatever the outcome of this war, the British
Empire is at an end. It has been mortally wounded. The
future of the British people is to die of hunger and
tuberculosis in their cursed island."
- Adolf Hitler's recorded conversation on 4th February 1945

The conclusion is, Hitler's speeches which tend to support Britain and her colonial empire were just pragmatic political program and not the real goal of Hitler's regime and National Socialism ideology.

Title: Hitler against Western Civilization
Post by: guest30 on July 18, 2022, 12:28:11 am
Let's see the content from the pages which photographed below

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Photographed on 2th July 2022, 11 : 37 Jakarta Time

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Photographed on 2th July 2022, 11 : 37 Jakarta Time

Important Transcript :

“The World War had as one of its consequences that, wherever capitalism reigns, America has supremacy. And since America suffers from industrial overproduction, it will exploit this supremacy to dispose of its overproduction. That concerns everyone—Germany as well as France, England as well as South America, China, and Japan. Only where capitalism has been broken, abolished, replaced by something new does America’s power stop.

Herein lies our greatest mission and at the same time our best chance! Here is the bedrock where we may cast anchor. From there an anti-industrial world can be erected.” - Adolf Hitler

Source : Wagener - Hitler Memoirs of a Confidant halaman 160, 161

To make this happen, we must defeat Liberalism and Communism, and Western Civilization, which it's people forcing everyone to be an industrialist machinist

Compare what Hitler envisage to what Karl Marx envisage

"Without slavery, North America, the most progressive of countries, would be transformed into a patriarchal country. Wipe out North America from the map of the world and you will have anarchy— the complete decay of modern commerce and civilization. Abolish slavery and you will have wiped America off the map of nations." - Karl Heinrich Marx



Defeat Cultural Marxism

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Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: Zea_mays on July 19, 2022, 07:42:13 am
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How were the communists able to promote an anti-ethnocentric worldview in predominantly white countries at the same exact time as the National Socialists then?

I won't disagree that certain historic NS writings on "race" were too bogged down by ethnocentrism at times, but Soviet policy was explicitly ethnocentric as well. Perhaps much more so than Germany, arguably:
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Through Joseph Stalin's theory on nationality, borders were drawn to create national homelands for various recognized ethnic groups.[4] Early republics like the Kazakh ASSR and the Turkestan ASSR in Central Asia were dissolved and split up to create new union republics.[5] With delimitation came the policy of indigenization which encouraged the de-Russification of the country and promotion of minority languages and culture.[6] This policy also affected ethnic Russians and was particularly enforced in ASSRs where indigenous people were already a minority in their own homeland, like the Buryat ASSR.[7] Language and culture flourished and ultimately institutionalized ethnicity in the state apparatus of the country.[8]
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By the 1930s the mood shifted as the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin stopped enforcing indigenization and began purging non-Russians from government and intelligentsia. Thus, a period of Russification set in.[6] Russian became mandatory in all areas of non-Russian ethnicity and the Cyrillic script became compulsory for all languages of the Soviet Union.[11] The constitution stated that the ASSRs had power to enforce their own policies within their territory,[12] but in practice the ASSRs and their titular nationalities were some of the most affected by Stalin's purges and were strictly controlled by Moscow.[13] From 1937, the "bourgeois nationalists" became the "enemy of the Russian people" and indigenization was abolished.[11]
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When the Soviets gained the upper hand and began recapturing territory in 1943, many minorities of the country began to be seen as German collaborators by Stalin and were accused of treason, particularly in southern Russia.[15] Between 1943 and 1945 ethnic Balkars,[16] Chechens,[17] Crimean Tatars,[18] Ingush,[17] and Kalmyks[19] were deported en masse from the region to remote parts of the country. Immediately after the deportations the Soviet government passed decrees that liquidated the Kalmyk ASSR on 27 December 1943,[19] the Crimean ASSR on 23 February 1944,[20] the Checheno-Ingush ASSR on 7 March 1944,[17]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republics_of_Russia#History

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Besides national republics, oblasts, and okrugs, several hundred national districts (with populations between 10,000 and 50,000) and several thousand national townships (population 500 to 5,000) were established. In some cases this policy required voluntary or forced resettlement in both directions to create a compact population.
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In the 1920s and the 1930s, the policy of national delimitation, which assigned national territories to ethnic groups and nationalities, was followed by nation-building, attempting to create a full range of national institutions within each national territory. Each officially recognized ethnic minority, however small, was granted its own national territory where it enjoyed a certain degree of autonomy, in addition to national elites.[5] A written national language was developed (if it had been lacking), national language planning was implemented, native teachers were trained, and national schools were established.
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Following the introduction of the Soviet passport system in 1932, each adult citizen's ethnicity (Russian: национальность) was necessarily recorded in their passport. Where parents' nationalities differed, a citizen was able to choose which nationality to register in their passport.[37] This practice did not exist in the Russian empire and has been abolished in the Russian Federation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Republics_of_Russia.png
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Map showing the ethnic republics of the Russian Federation (2008) that succeeded the national territories of Russian SFSR (pre-1990)

Map showing all the former ethnic republics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Liquidated_national_territorial_administrative_units_of_the_Russia.jpg

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How Stalin Created Some of the Post-Soviet World's Worst Ethnic Conflicts
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Terry Martin, director of the Davis Center for Russian and Eurasian Studies at Harvard University and coauthor of "A State Of Nations: Empire And Nation-Building In The Age Of Lenin And Stalin," agrees, but adds that the Soviets created problems from the beginning by trying to draw borders too precisely along ethnic lines in places where ethnic identities were still evolving.

"If they did anything that created ethnic conflict, they created ethnic conflict by trying to draw the borders too precisely," he says. "That is, they created a lot of ethnic mobilization around borders in the 1920s as people lobbied to get one border and lobbied various people to identify with their nationality and not with another in areas where nationality was very fluid, like Central Asia. Most of the modern nationalities that we have [today] hadn't even been formed yet."
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/03/how-stalin-created-some-of-the-post-soviet-worlds-worst-ethnic-conflicts/273649/

Stalin even created the first Israel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

Instead of Hitler trying to create provinces for each of the 5 or so "sub-races" that existed in Germany, Hitler's goal was to unify them into something new.


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He was already struggling in a war where everyone was attacking him on all sides, so he really had nothing to lose by openly promoting something more similar to what we promote now.

Hitler was not a biologist, so I do not blame him for not having a sufficient understanding to precisely express the ideology which he intuitively felt.

Here is Walter Gross attempting to clarify the official stance of the party regarding racial matters in 1939, from Der deutsche Rassengedanke und die Welt. This was just as the party was trying to distance itself from Nordicism.
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Germany goes here in 1933 and introduces a completely new concept into law and international law, namely a classification of people according to their descent from a racial point of view. In practice, we were treading Judaism, and quite exclusively Judaism, because we did not have a foreign race problem of a different kind in Germany to a significant extent at that time, nor did we have any contact with foreign breeds outside our borders, which would be significantly impaired by the German racial laws. First of all, it is a conflict between us and Judaism. But for reasons that matter here, we deliberately did not speak of Jews but of non-Aryans in the first legal measures (such as the law on the restoration of the professional civil service) and thus put the whole problem on a much broader basis than, for example, the conflict between Jews and Germans.
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But a very serious situation arises from the fact that now other peoples and states feel directly attacked and defamed in their honor and dignity as a nation, namely as a non-Aryan nation, by the German racial rule and the segregation from the racial alien. I do not want to count all the peoples and countries with whom there have been serious debates for this reason. It is appropriate to point out that, for example, the whole world of the Far East was for a long time under the impression that the German in his new National Socialist conception described it as non-Aryan, and that he considered the non-Aryans as an inferior rabble. So: The German distinguishes us as inferior, secondary people and himself as the actual bearer of culture. Suffice it to say that such a conception could understandably cause infinite excitement and hatred against this new Nazi Germany among proud, self-confident, reverent national peoples, such as Japan. We have had the same phenomenon in India, for example, and we have experienced it in many Near Eastern peoples.

All this manifested itself in two ways. Once in a mood-based bias against the Third Reich, against Germanness in general.
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sooner or later this government was forced by its own people to ask Berlin now, so to speak, what is actually going on about it: Whether their people are actually regarded and treated as second-class people and semi-savages because of their race and discord? This has indeed led to diplomatic steps in Berlin at a time when any tension of any kind on this globe, if it was not absolutely inevitable, has been annoying, unpleasant and actually unbearable.
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What could we do about this tendency to see in the German racial idea a fundamental defamation of people of other races? We could do nothing but repeatedly present the German racial idea in its actual form with calm and superiority and make it clear to people that the essence of racial knowledge is not the evaluation or even the devaluation of other groups of people in this world, but nothing more than the cool, yes I would like to say scientific, statement, that there are different groups of people in this world and that there is primarily no talk of an evaluation at all, that the statement: You are of a different race towards us--first contains no more and no less value judgment than the objective observation of a person who walks through the forest and says: "It is not only trees in the forest, but this and this is an oak tree." -- This is not an insult or a value judgment.
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We are sometimes there--that I must also pronounce--disturbed by clumsiness over even stupidity in our own country, when somewhere a wild fool produced his ideas of race, or that if we had just made it painstakingly clear to some people that we respect and honor them and that we completely concede to them his peculiarity on the basis of his bloody and racial internal legality, with one fool in his leaflet or book wrote that this people was racially inferior, that they were under cow and donkey, that their qualities were wickedness and uncleanliness, and what do I know. With such stupid derailments, not only foreign-race peoples in distant parts of the world, but even neighboring peoples in Europe, often even historically, fatefully determined friends of National Socialist Germany, have sometimes been irritated and alienated to the blood. I say openly that the two great peoples and powers who first began with us the political-organizational struggle against all the forces of decay and decline in the world, namely Italy and Japan, have shown an infinitely strong reserve against the German racial idea for years, out of misunderstanding, but unfortunately also partly as a result of the nonsense of individual irresponsible people in our own people, because they believed that the content of this German racial idea was an immediate degradation and defamation of their own national and cultural values.
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If today we can speak with the Japanese in this field in a completely clear and unbiased way: you are like this and we are different, we are deeply different in nature, -- then this will never give us a single hint of cause for friction and explosions, we will precisely out of respect for otherness from the outset remove the possibility from the outset, which can give a dilution, mixing and blurring of these natural boundaries between us, and in the end there remains the deep respect for the culture of a very nation that has become a strong, proud and great nation out of completely different bloody foundations and completely different historical conditions and is thus somewhere closely related to ourselves, which, of course, we possess and must preserve other styles and other forms from our inner racial law and racial content.

Exactly the same thing, as you know, has occupied us for a long time in the position on fascism and Italy. All the greater is our concern that the Italian people have now lost all sensitivity to the racial idea of Germany not only in this area, but are even the first other people to have established their own racial idea, which is directly related to ours, and has thus moved into the common front in the struggle for the racial idea.

I would say Gross's apparent ethnocentrism may be arising from a failure to fully pry apart nationality, ethnicity, and "race". Particularly in the last 2 paragraphs. In reality, racially, the Japanese are deeply similar to Germans (which is why they were Aryans allied with Germany). In terms of ethnicity, obviously they are different, but this is irrelevant for political matters. In terms of nationality, culture, and the corresponding "national idea" which Japan must base their nationalism on--their history and culture are very different from Germany's, so they must have a distinct "national idea". This interpretation is more obvious in the final paragraph about Italians. Italians are, ethnically, not too distantly-related from Germans, yet they have an entirely different "racial idea" than Germany.

If Gross was around today, perhaps he would have worded things more precisely. But the core of what he is saying is that (1) different "peoples" exist, (2) different "peoples" are not inferior to Germans simply for being different (i.e. anti-ethnocentrism), and (3) non-Aryans are inferior (i.e. Jews, specifically, and exclusively in the case of Germany. Not "Rhineland bastards", but exclusively Jews). Logically, Aryans and non-Aryans must be qualitatively similar to each other within each category, regardless of differences in ethnicity or nationality.


In A. James Gregor's article on NS and race, he explains similarly:
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In effect this last phase of National Socialist race theory was a complete rejection of Guenther's Nordicism.
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We are told that "the races distinguish themselves not through their characteristics; for the same characteristics can be found in different races…For example a Mediterranean can be as courageous as a Nordic, an Alpine as musical as a Dinaric, an East Balt as cunning as a Nordic. On the other hand not all Mediterraneans are courageous, nor all Nordics. But when a Mediterranean is courageous he is courageous in a 'Mediterranean fashion' as a Nordic would be courageous in a 'Nordic fashion'."[102]

Here is an entirely different racism, an entirely different Nordicism than that of Guenther and his followers. Here there was no question of general inferiority - it was a question of maintaining an ideal as an archetype for an entire civilization. Germany had a Nordic archetype; its art form was Nordic; its literature and philosophy, its music and institutions were inspired by Nordic ideals. Each German was bequeathed this patrimony from the original racial elements, now inextricably mixed into the German Nation, among which the Nordic predominated. It was not a question of intrinsic worth, national and racial superiority and inferiority tearing asunder the peoples of Europe. There is no transcendental standard by which to evaluate racial differences.[103] A people characteristically Mongolian treasures a Mongolian heritage and ideal, a Mediterranean people a Mediterranean one.[104]

But to Hitler, "Nordics", "Alpines", etc. are not truly races. Aryan is a race. The so-called racial classifications made by academics are just ancient ethnic groups or nationalities whose mixture gave rise to the modern nationalities. The grand task is understanding the traits which have been inherited by a modern nationality and promoting the noble ones. Germany, Italy, and Japan were formed from different historic mixtures, and it was not possible to judge whether one of those mixtures was better than the other, since they all had positive and negative traits.

Today, we know now the racial process which likely gave rise to noble traits in the first place (selection for a farming lifestyle) and on this basis we can see the underlying noble characteristics in Germany, Italy, and Japan are not so different after all.



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Although I'm sure plenty of white nationalists would argue that Hitler was simply slandering Eastern Europeans for propagandistic purposes, since they were warring against him

The term Underman was originally used to describe the quality of individuals/nations which had succumbed to Communism (National Socialists did not coin the term). However, National Socialists consistently used this definition. In the image below, note that this type of anti-Communist/anti-Underman propaganda was translated into multiple Slavic languages (for nations allied with Germany). The fact that Communism's hold was strongest on Slavic nations may have been a coincidence, or, as we would assert, due to Turanism...

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Title: Re: Media decolonization
Post by: christianbethel on July 21, 2022, 04:56:20 pm
Just did some digging and apparently the NSDAP considered jazz 'degenerate' because it had 'Negro' and 'Jewish' origins. While this is true, I assume this isn't the actual reason why jazz was considered degenerate, as the laws enforcing jazz were not widely enforced, and as you probably already know, Goebbels had his own propaganda band known as 'Charlie and His Orchestra.' What did Hitler and Goebbels really think about jazz? Did they consider it 'degenerate' and 'jungle music'?
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 21, 2022, 09:50:01 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_music

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Degenerate music (German: Entartete Musik, German pronunciation: [ɛntˈaʁtɛtə muˈziːk]) was a label applied in the 1930s by the government of Nazi Germany to certain forms of music that it considered harmful or decadent. The Nazi government's concerns about degenerate music were a part of its larger and better-known campaign against degenerate art (German: Entartete Kunst). In both cases, the government attempted to isolate, discredit, discourage, or ban the works.
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Jewish composers such as Felix Mendelssohn and Gustav Mahler were disparaged and condemned by the Nazis.[1] In Leipzig, a bronze statue of Mendelssohn was removed. The regime commissioned music to replace his incidental music to A Midsummer Night's Dream.[2]
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From the Nazi seizure of power onward, these composers found it increasingly difficult, and often impossible, to get work or have their music performed. Many went into exile (e.g., Arnold Schoenberg, Kurt Weill, Paul Hindemith, Berthold Goldschmidt); or retreated into "internal exile" (e.g., Karl Amadeus Hartmann, Boris Blacher); or ended up in the concentration camps (e.g., Viktor Ullmann, or Erwin Schulhoff).

Let's listen to these composers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEkcP8lZvZA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8LZ43LA2nY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXhAtBT57zA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Q-4JcqEa8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkFbrUEhSCc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQLoIlUnu8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0agKt_ZKBg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0mvuHJIZGg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkKwuCnr4JY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ZZ4SkzCBw

Most music considered degenerate by National Socialism was WESTERN CLASSICAL MUSIC! But somehow this is overlooked.....
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on July 22, 2022, 08:31:02 am
I'll take that as a 'Hitler and Goebbels actually enjoyed jazz music and 'historians' like Lusane and Kater are lying when they say they hated jazz music and wanted it banned.'
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 22, 2022, 08:09:24 pm
The only NSDAP members who definitely disliked jazz:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negermusik

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On 4 May 1930, Wilhelm Frick, the Reich's newly appointed Minister of the Interior and Education for Thuringia made a decree called "Against the Negro Culture – For Our German Heritage".[8][9]

Frick again! We have covered him before:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/summer-cleaning/comment-page-1/#comment-176176

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“A supplementary decree issued on 26 November 1935 extended the law to “Gypsies, Negroes, and their bastards.
Also non Aryans could not be considered for the Ahnenpass.
Africans were not considered part of the Aryan race, Africans could not join.the Sturmabteilung”

The decree was established by Wilhelm Frick, a minister under Hitler’s rule, and was quickly sacked from power and influence by Hitler after he established that decree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Frick

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His power was greatly reduced in June 1936 when Hitler named Himmler the Chief of German Police, which effectively united the police with the SS. On paper, Frick was Himmler's immediate superior. In fact, the police were now independent of Frick's control, since the SS was responsible only to Hitler.[13][14]

Who else? Back to first link:

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Eugen Hadamovsky, who purportedly stated:

    Mit dem heutigen Tag spreche ich ein endgültiges Verbot des Negerjazz für den gesamten Deutschen Rundfunk aus. (As of today, I decree a definitive ban on the negro jazz for the entire German Radio.).[8][12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Hadamovsky

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Goebbels was not entirely pleased with him, as is evident by many references in Goebbels' diaries.

And again, as with general hostility towards "blacks", hostility towards jazz actually predated the National Socialist era, therefore it would be more accurate to consider Frick and Hadamovsky as carrying over these attitudes from the Weimar era:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_jazz

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After the Great War in Germany, Negrophobia coalesced with the preexisting anti-Semitism and flourished, especially since Jews were often depicted as having a racial affinity with blacks, possessing similar objectionable qualities. Jews were prevalent figures in new art forms such as jazz, cabaret, and film. Often, a great number of jazz band leaders were Jews, many from Eastern Europe, including Bela, Weber, Efim Schachmeister, Paul Godwin, and Ben Berlin.[6]
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the deeply engrained and institutionalized racism of German society was not tolerant of blacks. For instance, many nationalistic student fraternities rejected student members who were of color or married to women of color. Furthermore, in 1932, all the conservative musicians and critics were denigrating jazz as a product of "Negro" culture, which provided the government the fodder to forbid the hiring of black musicians. Thus, for many African-American artists, popularity was a mere facade of a grim reality of being seen as a "racial alien". One critic even went as far as to call jazz a mere "negro noise", having only one purpose: "to introduce obscenities into society."[6]

Paul Schewers, a music critic, brought forth crude images of lewdly dancing black boys and girls in the service of procreation, implying that the lower forces were always surging through blacks, overtaking the rational light of morality and reason the way the white man grasped it. Undoubtedly, sensuality has an affinity with dance, and it was pervasive in jazz and in the lyrics, but this became a means of judging it as void of morality, and even aesthetics, reduced to being inferior to "high German culture".[6]
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This burgeoning hatred of jazz and its subculture infected the entire Nazi party structure that Adolf Hitler and his followers were trying so desperately to erect.[6]

As for Hitler himself:

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Even though he never publicly spoke out against jazz specifically in the Weimar Republic, one can infer that Hitler's sentiments toward jazz must have had strong ties to his perception of racial hierarchy, with jazz, not surprisingly, being at the very bottom.[6]

No, one cannot infer this! If anything, that Hitler never explicitly criticized jazz despite how politically easy it would have been for him to do so gives us a reason to infer in the opposite direction. There is also no information that I have come across that positively suggests Hitler enjoyed jazz personally. However, it is not necessary to personally be a fan of something in order to not be hostile towards that thing.

Another possibility is that Hitler disliked jazz for different reasons than the rightists did, but avoided talking about it in order to not cause confusion. It is actually possible to criticize jazz from the left, by arguing that it is an improvement over Western classical music but still shares some of its values, such as gratuitous complexity/decorativeness/showboating, and therefore needs further purification. From this perspective, the musical developments of the Counterculture era can be viewed positively as the removal of more Western aesthetical assumptions from composition. (I myself fall into this camp.)
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: christianbethel on July 23, 2022, 11:45:31 am
I have also read that Goebbels made several attempts to create a German version of jazz and swing due to popular demand for music that was more 'swinging'. His results were varied, but Charlie and His Orchestra lasted for the entire duration of the war.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest30 on August 01, 2022, 07:31:21 pm
Hitler's Diplomatic Decolonization :

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Photographed on Tuesday, 2 August 2022, 07 : 20 Jakarta Time

“Let us not lose sight of an alliance with the Arab League. We Germans have gotten into the habit of looking for friends only in Europe — if possible, among people of the same race. Perhaps that’s a mistake. Perhaps it’s much easier to find friends among other races. If the Arabs know that we—that is, a new Germany—can offer them understanding, support, and firm backing in their own struggles for freedom, and that we consider them competent to enter into alliances—welcome them, in fact—such a realization might have significant repercussions on our position in Europe as well. Furthermore, an alliance of interests between Germany and the Arabic-Semitic race might also have far-reaching significance for our relations with the millions of the African, Indian, and yellow peoples" - Adolf Hitler

Source : Wagener - Hitler Memoirs of a Confidant page 271 (PDF format's page) paragraph 4 and page 272 (PDF format's page) paragraph 1
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: guest30 on August 14, 2022, 11:24:00 pm
The differences between how Hitler's soldiers and the Western Allied soldiers treated the "colored" people was on how they treat them during the war.

The Hitler's soldiers placed the "colored" people's volunteers on the battles which less brutal. Like how the "Free Arabian Legion"'s soldiers placed on a battle against the Greece partisans on the territory of Greece. The "SS Handschar" Muslim legion wo are placed on a battle against the Communist partisans on the territory of Balkans. The "white" soldiers from Germany and her other "white" volunteers were kept placed in primary and large battle, like on Battle of Moscow, Battle of Kursk, Battle of Normandy, Battle of Italy, and other famous war theatres

The Western powers, like French for example, placed the "colored" troops on the frontline of battle and got segregrated from the "white" French counterparts. And they got task to large battle against the difficult enemy positions. So, the French "white" troops will saved from large cassualties. During their succeed on defeating the German troops and pushed them back. They all got removed from the frontline and changed with the "white" French troops who almost did not do anything to succeed the war. That phenomena was happened during "Liberation of France" during 1944
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: guest30 on August 22, 2022, 07:36:08 pm
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7MUPcq2rXxIK/

Western European Colonialism is Bad for the World
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: guest30 on August 23, 2022, 05:30:23 am
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"In 1932, Hitler took the time to sit down with a Georgian-born African-American scholar, Dr. Milton S.J. Wright, 255 who was studying in Heidelberg at the time.256 Ottley reports that Hitler asked what he wanted to do with his degree once he returned to America."

Source: Kuzniar-Clark - Black Nazis II Ethnic Minorities and Foreigners in Hitler's Armed Forces page 139

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Photo source : https://amandamaewrites.wordpress.com/2018/08/27/phd-student-meets-hitler/
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: antihellenistic on September 21, 2022, 07:30:32 pm
The example of inferior western aestethic on giving dress's symbol :

US symbol of military visor cap

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Source : https://id.aliexpress.com/i/1005001771689119.html

The example of superior aestethics, promoting symbol simplicity but resulting good shape :

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Source : https://www.dreamstime.com/ww-german-nazi-ss-black-forage-cap-ww-german-nazi-ss-black-forage-cap-isolated-white-image135755758

Of course the child will prefer the superior aestethic because it's easy to draw back the symbol rather than the US military symbol

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Source : https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/nazi-eagle-to-be-auctioned.html

The child face always honest and not smiling

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Title: Re: Alt-Right internet pipeline
Post by: antihellenistic on October 27, 2022, 02:18:19 am
The European rightist always support Hitler to justify their political view. But Hitler did mass killing to the "whites" during World War 2 until his defeat, he wasn't reproduce to made more "whites" and killed himself as a "white" person. Had the European rightist do what Hitler did based on what I write today, we will gain total victory. The rightist always complain about "White Genocide" but support Hitler who did total genocide to the "whites". What an irony, they are hypocrite
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: Soulbadger on October 28, 2022, 12:53:03 pm
One thing is for certain, "black" people would benefit more and "whites"\Jews—and rightists in general— would benefit less, if Kanye West just stopped talking altogether:

Kanye's Disturbing History of Praising Hitler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Seg3UQdYxWU

(https://townsquare.media/site/101/files/2022/10/attachment-candace-owens-kanye-west-1003-6c15198a0de747e7b7152d3341c531b5-11.jpg)

I've heard some "blacks" say things along the lines of: "we black people know not to take Kanye West seriously....". Well, perhaps you should, because every time rightists like Kanye West and Candace Owens open their mouths "whites"\Jews benefit at the detriment of "blacks"!
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: SirGalahad on October 28, 2022, 06:29:33 pm
Kanye is also one of those "'Black' people are the REAL Israelites" types. So this whole debacle being widely advertised is also bad for us since it keeps anti-Zionist debate within the framework of "Non-Jews just secretly wish that they were us"
Title: "Vegetarians, Nazis for Animal Rights, Blitzkrieg of the Ungulates"
Post by: guest78 on November 16, 2022, 08:32:54 pm
Who knew National Socialists may have been the originators of this meme? Just saw this on a bumper sticker the other day and found myself agreeing, only to come across this quote today:

The meme:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/7322/5665/products/ps_1415_people_dog.jpg?v=1619811814)

The quote:
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Nazi leaders were noted for love of their pets and for certain animals, notably apex predators like the wolf and the lion. Hitler, a vegetarian and hater of hunting, adored dogs and spent some of his final hours in the company of Blondi, whom he would take for walks outside the bunker at some danger to himself. He had a particular enthusiasm for birds and most of all for wolves. [...] Goebbels said, famously, ‘The only real friend one has in the end is the dog. . . The more I get to know the human species, the more I care for my Benno.’ Goebbels also agreed with Hitler that ‘meat eating is a perversion in our human nature,’ and that Christianity was a ‘symptom of decay’, since it did not urge vegetarianism. [...] On the one hand, monsters of cruelty towards their fellow humans; on the other, kind to animals and zealous in their interest. In their very fine essay on such contradictions, Arnold Arluke and Boria Sax offer three observations. One, as just noted, many Nazi leaders harboured affection towards animals but antipathy to humans. Hitler was given films by a maharaja which displayed animals killing people. The Führer watched with equanimity. Another film showed humans killing animals. Hitler covered his eyes and begged to be told when the slaughter was over. — Alexander Cockburn "Vegetarians, Nazis for Animal Rights, Blitzkrieg of the Ungulates". CounterPunch. (August 18, 2005). Retrieved April 6, 2013.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nazism

Perhaps why 'horror' films are one of my favorite genres as well then....  :D

Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 16, 2022, 08:59:05 pm
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Hitler was given films by a maharaja which displayed animals killing people. The Führer watched with equanimity. Another film showed humans killing animals. Hitler covered his eyes and begged to be told when the slaughter was over.

Hitler understands the difference between punching up and punching down:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/alt-right-internet-pipeline/msg14908/#msg14908

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/re-trump-disapproval-377/msg9675/#msg9675

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/elon-musk/msg12621/#msg12621

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/leftists-against-progressivism/msg1135/#msg1135

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/linguistic-decolonization/msg8165/#msg8165
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 10, 2022, 07:48:14 pm
To further elaborate on the point re-raised here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/re-duginism-1134/msg16994/#msg16994

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Castle,_Warsaw#During_World_War_II

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On 4 October 1939 in Berlin, Adolf Hitler issued the order to blow up the Royal Castle.

Before Hitler:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Jauch_Royal_Castle_in_Warsaw.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Design_Chiaveri_Warsaw.JPG)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Senate_Chambre_Warsaw_18th.JPG/1024px-Senate_Chambre_Warsaw_18th.JPG)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Senate_Chamber_design_Warsaw_Louis.JPG/1280px-Senate_Chamber_design_Warsaw_Louis.JPG)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Conference_room_without_paintings_19th.JPG)

After Hitler:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Royal_Castle_Warsaw_1945.jpg)

HAIL HITLER!

Unfortunately it has since been reconstructed:

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In 1949 the Polish Parliament passed a bill to rebuild the Castle as a monument to Polish history and culture. Meanwhile, special architectural designing offices, under Jan Dąbrowski, Piotr Biegański and Jan Zachwatowicz, drew up blueprints for restoring the framework of the building and furnishing the historical rooms. The decision to start work was postponed several times, but was finally taken on 20 January 1971.[17] A Civic Committee was set up. Amid universal applause it was decided to rebuild the castle from voluntary contributions. Both, in Poland and abroad fund-raising committees were set up.

By May 1975 the Fund had already reached the 500 million zlotys. By the same date more than a thousand valuable works of art had been given to the Castle by numerous Poles resident both in Poland and abroad.[17] Official representatives of other countries have likewise presented to the Castle works of art of great artistic and historic value.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Nowa_Izba_Poselska_Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_2016.jpg/1280px-Nowa_Izba_Poselska_Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_2016.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Dawna_Izba_Poselska_Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_2016.jpg/1280px-Dawna_Izba_Poselska_Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_2016.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Sala_Senatorska_Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_2016.jpg/1280px-Sala_Senatorska_Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_2016.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Warsaw_Throne_chair_of_Stanislaus_Augustus.jpg/768px-Warsaw_Throne_chair_of_Stanislaus_Augustus.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Throne_Room_Royal_Castle_in_Warsaw.JPG/1280px-Throne_Room_Royal_Castle_in_Warsaw.JPG)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/2_Zamek_Krolewski_43.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_-_03.jpg/1280px-Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_-_03.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Conference_Room_%28Royal_Castle%2C_Warsaw%29-01.jpg/1245px-Conference_Room_%28Royal_Castle%2C_Warsaw%29-01.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/2_Zamek_Krolewski_36.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Marble_Room_at_the_Royal_Castle_in_Warsaw%2C_Poland.jpg/1363px-Marble_Room_at_the_Royal_Castle_in_Warsaw%2C_Poland.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_-_09.jpg/1280px-Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_-_09.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Crown_Prince%27s_Apartment_RCW.jpg/1024px-Crown_Prince%27s_Apartment_RCW.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_-_04.jpg/1280px-Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_-_04.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_-_02.jpg/1280px-Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie_-_02.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Pok%C3%B3j_%C5%BB%C3%B3%C5%82ty_Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie.JPG/1280px-Pok%C3%B3j_%C5%BB%C3%B3%C5%82ty_Zamek_Kr%C3%B3lewski_w_Warszawie.JPG)

Moral: this is what happens when buildings are demolished without eliminating the bloodlines which built them.

Related:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/kristallnacht-tribute/

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/

Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on December 23, 2022, 06:17:51 am
The YouTube channel named Apostate Prophet protray Hitler can be compared to Mohammed on his video. See this screenshoot below.

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/31e0b0a1fccca69fc99440d7aaab265f/c61af93bb6f8a444-da/s2048x3072/69e4e6373f14958a1311270bbd92c3d78d345b72.pnj)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs5C3iccSho

Title: Re: Counterculture and Western Civilisation
Post by: antihellenistic on March 09, 2023, 07:11:31 pm
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To get around these I would really appreciate simple and clear definitions as to what these terms mean and do not mean, and also preferably an argument as to why these are the correct uses of the terms. Thank you.

Western Civilization aka Western Culture aka Judeo-Greco-Christian Culture:

Western civilization arose out of the "enlightenment" era and the French Revolution. It grants "man" supposed "rights". To Aryanists "rights" are arbitrary. The Declaration of Rights of Man which came out of the French Revolution is also humanist as it makes no mention of non-humans. Humanism is merely more tribalism where the out-group is non-humans and the in-group are humans. To any serious upstanding person who wishes to be moral and ethical the in-group versus out-group dichotomy obviously becomes an unacceptable condition because the out-group will always be exploited by the in-group on a planet with finite resources and whilst under the pressure applied by natural-selection. It should be obvious too I believe that true unity is impossible while multiple in-group vs. out-group dichotomies are at play in any given situation or nation?

Humanism 101 (tribalism continued):
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We are the full counterpart of the French Revolution — Adolf Hitler

Because, if truly uniting a nation is your goal then tribalism must be unacceptable!

Lastly in regards to Western culture, given what I stated about it above it should be clear also that colonialism and racism in the West are merely the in-group vs. out-group (humanism\tribalism) strategy taken to the extreme. Understanding this we should then be able to also see why it was so easy for Western colonialists to not see their victims as human-beings such as themselves, because those people were clearly in the Westerner's out-group.

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So any argument I could make about why the counterculture was good (in line with Aryanist ideals) would come down to "good things are good", a tautology.

The counter-culture, had it been allowed to run it's course and arrive at it's logical conclusion unimpeded, would have ended Western civilization and all the "bad things" listed above. It would have resulted in a true national revival of America. Instead, we're still stuck in the cesspool of tribalism which has now ultimately manifested itself with the election of Turanian tribalist par-excellence Donald Trump himself, a Westerner through-and-through. 

In closing though, what ultimately makes Western civilization the most evil civilization to ever exist on this planet so far? Simple put, this: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/antropocentricism-the-most-dangerous-ideology-in-the-world/

Can you now see how humanism\tribalism and anthropocentricism support each other in theory as well, and how colonialism and racism could only ever be their true end product?


When French Revolution's ideological progress almost got destroyed

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(https://cdn.britannica.com/78/177078-050-EFCF854A/Adolf-Hitler-front-Paris-Eiffel-Tower-France-June-1940.jpg)

(https://nanovic.nd.edu/assets/492024/1600x630/zuccaparis5_1024x.jpeg)

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/KWC3FD/nazi-swastika-flag-on-the-arc-de-triomphe-after-german-occupation-KWC3FD.jpg)








When it's progress restored again, the whole world doomed

(https://www.belfercenter.org/sites/default/files/styles/featured_image_1280x515_/public/images/publication/feature/Crowds_of_French_patriots_line_the_Champs_Elysees-edit2.jpg?h=3fc25b86&itok=Ce9jlND_)

United States Troops Liberate Paris

(https://static.dw.com/image/50155769_605.jpg)

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(https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2014/08/France-Paris-Liberati_Horo-1.jpg)



Remember again

(https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-have-never-liked-france-or-the-french-and-i-have-never-stopped-saying-so-15th-february-adolf-hitler-55-12-52.jpg)

Title: Hitler's Factual Race Realist
Post by: antihellenistic on April 09, 2023, 11:11:41 am
His recorded conversations :

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...the white races have imposed their will by force, and the influence they have had on the native inhabitants has been negligible

...

The white races did, of course, give some things to the natives, and they were the worst gifts that they could possibly have made, those plagues of our own modern world-materialism, fanaticism, alcoholism and syphilis. ... One solitary success must be conceded to the colonizers: everywhere they have succeeded in arousing hatred, a hatred that urges these peoples, awakened from their slumbers by us, to rise and drive us out. - Adolf Hitler, 7th February 1945

Source : Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann Documents) Page 13

Read the sentences which given bold and red color if you don't have time to read

Proof of truth :

White race resulting spread of sex disease including syphilis

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In the period 1890–1920, colonization produced generalized social disruption, sex work flourished, and syphilis (and to a lesser extent chancroid and LGV) invaded all these areas [50], [52]–[54], [57]. Except for tertiary and purely serological diagnoses, colonial doctors of this period were not mistaking yaws for syphilis. Most yaws cases are presented in children [52]; unlike syphilis, yaws is not venereal, seldom affects mucosa, and does not cause primary chancres [53], [64]. In addition, syphilis appeared correlated in time and space with other STDs and with presumed sexual promiscuity in a community (e.g, syphilis was frequent in the colonial posts, and absent in the still undisturbed villages around, and its incidence raised in the posts upon arrival of ships, caravans and military contingents [50], [52], [54], [58]).

A common ironical pun was “Nous leur avons apporté la syphilization” (“We have brought them syphilization”). GUD invasion accompanied the social disruption that resulted from colonial development of each region [47], [48], [50], [52]. We hypothesize that this promoted sexual transmission of several zoonotic SIVs. Among these zoonotic strains, those arriving to cities, not only could rapidly generate a larger hub of infected people but also, being placed at a major traffic node, would have had more long-term epidemic possibilities. Cities started to grow fast, and riverine traffic intensified only after 1920 [47], [65].

In Kinshasa (then Leopoldville), capital of the DRC (then Belgian Congo), GUD was much more intense in its early growth period, and then declined steadily after the mid 1930s (Figure 1; Text S1).

Source : de Sousa, J. D., Müller, V., Lemey, P., & Vandamme, A. M. (2010). High GUD incidence in the early 20 century created a particularly permissive time window for the origin and initial spread of epidemic HIV strains. PloS one, 5(4), e9936. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0009936

Review about the History of Western Colonialism, which Resulting Materialism and Arousing Hatreds. Recall on already discussed Colonial History source

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"Between the 15th Century, when Portugal became the first European nation to take significant part in African slave trading. And 1807 when the Transatlantic slave trade was abolished, European ships cutted millions of people away from Africa. In total European ships took over 11.000.000 people into slavery from the "West African Coast" alone.

This obvious trade made European grow rich on the profits while the populations of Africa was devastated

By the 1870s only 10 percent of the continent was under direct European control within Algeria, held by France. "The Cape Colony" and "The Natal" both in modern day South Africa held by the British. And Angola by Portugal. However, by 1900 Europeans were ruling more than 90 percent of the African continent. European nations had added almost 10 million square miles of Africa, one-fift of the landmass of the globe to their overseas colonial possessions. 

(Minute 00 : 18 until 01 : 55)

...

They developed a system of colluding with indigenous rulers. The supposed representatives of the people. So they got these people to help ferment wars and unrest so that slaves could be captured, and sold to them and then transported through the "Transatlantic" slave trade   

...

The avowed purpose of "The Berlin Conference" was to discuss the future of Africa. And the stamping out of slavery because most of European countries had become industrialized and so they no longer needed as much manual labor as they needed when they dependent on slave trade. So an Act was signed at the conference in Berlin, it's known as the Berlin Act of 1885 by 13 European powers, which had a result and the Act had a resolution to stop to help in the suppressing of slavery. So while on the surface they stamping out of a slavery sounds like a laudable venture. In reality, the major strategic and economic objective of the European countries was how to protect their old interest, trades and markets in Africa and how to exploit new ones. As I said this was in the light of the Industrial Revolution. We did not require as much as human labor as slave trade had provided. So the Berlin Conference therefore started the process of carving up Africa and putting up borders to suit European interest without taking into consideration to the cultural or ethnic components of Africa

(Minute 09 : 13 until 11 : 25)

Source : Oyinsan, Bunmi. (2022). Africa's Debt Crises - How the Developed World is Fleecing Africa's Wealth of Billions of Dollars, by Bunmi Oyinsan PhD - Sankofa Pan-African Series. Accessed on 30th September 2022, from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7fnJgu4dqU

History about the sources of enhancement of alcoholism

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Alcohol was brewed as early as 7,000 to 6,650 BCE in northern China.[25] The earliest evidence of winemaking was dated at 6,000 to 5,800 BCE in Georgia in the South Caucasus.[98] Beer was likely brewed from barley as early as the 6th century BCE (600–500 BCE) in Egypt.[99] Pliny the Elder wrote about the golden age of winemaking in Rome, the 2nd century BCE (200–100 BCE), when vineyards were planted.[100]

Source : Wikipedia contributors. (2023, April 5). Alcohol (drug). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 15:14, April 9, 2023, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alcohol_(drug)&oldid=1148251359

Contrast on how another modern race realist view white race

1. Weronika Kuzniar Clark

2. W Johnny

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Veronika Cohen Kuzniar Clark say, "The reason I think people ... The think is reason I think we should be very concern and not laugh this off because this is ultimately going to leap to be, it's gonna be illegal to be "white". They're gonna make it illegal... to be "white". Now what that means folks? Well, take a look at "South Africa", you're not gonna be over the make a living as a "white" person. You not will able to identify as "white". You're gonna have your culture and your history stricted away surely bit surely, it's already happening. That is what it means ultimately."

...

W Johnny say, "Being "white" in current situation we find ourselves in permitted to be oppressed and marginalized, even demonized. So ... "Yes, exactly", Clark answered back. "I was shocking about this yesterday I was kind a ... we need to do this, we need to reject the whole whiteness thing because "white" is social construct really is. My father grow up in the 1930s never ever choose would be used the word "white" to describe his race or his family, he would've said a German or Germanic. He never would've say "I live in a "white" neighbourhood. He would've say, "we live in a Protestant neighbourhood or a Lutheran neighbourhood" because that was true, you know. "Right", Clark answered back. It wasn't a... and I guess it supposed like another part of the social-conditioning ... (the rest conversation is unclear). Clark answer, "But I think the SPLC is ... part of constructing "whiteness" so that they have an enemy just like "Nazi whites". W Johnny say, "Of course it is that's what I'm getting at, and that came about Post World War 2. And if you didn't live before them, you know like somebody, say my father's age, you wouldn't know it unless you really have study history. ...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6fqaAAEgVWHP/


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(Minute 01.27 - 01.43)

...and of course I also have Mongol and Ashkenazi DNA way back in my background, but I'm absolutely okay with that, and I just think that needs to be known that I'm not a hundred percent pure "white", and here I am... - Weronika Kuzniar Clark

https://www.bitchute.com/video/2MQ1VvwqvFrY/

3. Richard Spencer

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Di0ataaWwAAGiE7.jpg:large)

4. Jared Taylor

(https://www.amren.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ProudToBeWhite-663x1024.jpg)

https://www.amren.com/news/2020/11/why-white-racial-consciousness-is-necessary/

Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 21, 2023, 02:20:38 am
New blog post:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/hitler-is-more-similar-to-diangelo-than-to-douglas/
Title: Germany your God has returned
Post by: guest98 on May 10, 2023, 02:08:18 pm
Your God has returned, will you help the one who sacrificed so much for you in the recent past? Or will you sit back and be damned forever as your Fuehrer burns in the lake of fire 
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on May 29, 2023, 09:54:01 am
History Records of Low Sexual Dimorphism in Nazi Germany

https://youtu.be/jZkzmfUjpwA

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Remember, how the first Jewish genocide was made by the homosexual Roman emperor Hadrian? Anti Semitism and homosexuality are interconnected. Just pointing out patterns.

The prevalence of homosexuality in the Hitler Youth is also confirmed by historian Gerhard Rempel in his book Hitler’s Children: Hitler Youth and the SS:  38 Homosexuality, meanwhile, continued on into the war years when Hitler Jugend boys frequently became victims of molestations at the hands of their SS tutors; Himmler consistently took a hard line against it publicly but was quite willing to mitigate his penalties privately and keep every incident as secret as possible (Rempel:51f).

An interesting sideline to the story of the Hitler Youth illustrates both the control of the youth movement by pederasts and the fundamental relationship between homosexuality and Nazism. In Great Britain, the pro-Nazis formed the Anglo-German Fellowship (AGF). The AGF was headed by British homosexuals Guy Francis de Moncy Burgess and Captain John Robert Macnamara.

British Historian John Rempel relates how Burgess, Macnamara and J.H. Sharp, the Church of England’s Arch-deacon for Southern Europe, took a trip to Germany to attend a Hitler Youth camp. Costello writes, In the spring of 1936, the trio set off for the Rhineland, accompanied by Macnamara’s friend Tom Wylie, a young official in the War Office. Ostensibly they were escorting a group of pro-fascist schoolboys to a Hitler Youth camp. But from Burgess’ uproariously bawdy account of how his companions discovered that the Hitler Jugend satisfied their sexual and political passions, the trip would have shocked their sponsors -- the Foreign Relations Council of the Church of England (Costello: 300).

Many...[Freikorps] leaders were homosexual; indeed homosexuality appears to have been widespread in several volunteer units. Gerhard Rossbach...was an open homosexual. On his staff was Lieutenant Edmund Heines who was later to become the lover of Ernst Roehm (Graber:33).

The favorite meeting place of the SA was a “gay” bar in Munich called the Bratwurstgloeckl where Roehm kept a reserved table (Hohne:82). This was the same tavern where some of the early meetings of the Nazi Party had been held (Rector:69). At the Bratwurstgloeckl, Roehm and associates — Edmund Heines, Karl Ernst, Ernst’s partner Captain [Paul] Rohrbein, Captain Petersdorf, Count Ernst Helldorf — would meet to plan and strategize. These were the men who orchestrated the Nazi campaign of intimidation and terror. All of them were homosexual (Heiden, 1944:371).

Christian Bethel's analysis confirmed
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on June 09, 2023, 08:35:28 am
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To disseminate truth based upon historical knowledge; to study with an open mind the struggle between the New Order and Old and to secure for our selves and posterity the rights and privileges guaranteed under the U. S. Constitution.

I was one of the few white men among 250 Negroes allowed to attend the meeting. The night was hot. The passions of the Negroes around me mounted as the night wore on. I sat next to a fat burly Negro who sneered at me. I thought of the night I was beaten up at the Mobilizer meeting. I was completely encircled by zealot Negroes, their passions rising by the minute. I thought of expressing some panicularly vicious and loud anti-Semitic remarks during the frequent periods of applause. From then on I became “pals” with the burly Negro next to me. “It’s those sonovabitch Jews,” he kept repeating for the rest of the night.

Time and again Jordan evoked loud cheering at the mention of Hitler’s name, but the loudest noise was reserved when he mentioned the “Japanese brothers.”

“Japan wants to liberate the black man, and give Africa to the Africans. . . . We black people are with Hitler. , . . Hitler loves us; the Axis powers are fighting our battle for us. They win take Africa from the British and give it to the Africans who deserve to have it.”

Despite the assurance of friendship by the anti-Semitic Negro next to me, I became uneasy when Jordan went into violent tirades against all white people and American Democracy in particular. Purely in self-defense I applauded wildly and conspicuously as Jordan yelled;

“Every white man is your enemy. No white man is ever a Negro’s friend. Don’t let ’em get next to you. Kill them before they do that. Give him his medicine. . . . The only hope for the black man is to collaborate with the Japanese.”

After that meeting I noticed that Jordan regretted having talked too freely to me. His Japanese friends on the Black Dragon Society had no doubt warned him against all whites, without exception. Several incidents, such as the time I became violently ill after a cup of coffee, caused me to suspect foul work. I took it as a warning to keep away. I did not want to be mugged and my body hung in a dark alley. I made sure that Federal authorities were aware of the explosive situation in Harlem, and trusting them to do an infinitely better job of watching Jordan and his colleagues than I ever could, 1 stayed away from Harlem for a while.

Source :

Under Cover : My Four Years In The Nazi Underworld Of America, John Roy Carlson (1943) page 162, 163 (Page 80 on archive.org)

https://archive.org/details/UnderCoverMyFourYearsInTheNaziUnderworldOfAmerica/page/n79/mode/2up
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on June 23, 2023, 07:58:20 pm
Hitler's record of low-sexual dimorphism?

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/d8f9a5fd231af708338d328a2d9edc28/ecc799ca44854c19-d9/s2048x3072/54dda7640dfdfaff264dfe330b5d8b716e0eec84.jpg)

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/53e5950f9ffb57ce1833b70aa9654119/ecc799ca44854c19-9d/s1280x1920/513859fa46ef3130c8472e88d1f2784284e0716f.jpg)

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/ae6d4db2b7b383286c68575eb2d167a0/ecc799ca44854c19-29/s1280x1920/66f71d59ba92c7f543f31a3890d0c6d82b75532d.jpg)

Is that true?
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 23, 2023, 08:23:57 pm
Here is the Walsh tweet:

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1672035932755865600

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Erwin Gohrbandt. A leading scientist in Nazi Germany who performed one of the first "sex reassignment" surgeries.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/roman-road-construction/msg17886/#msg17886
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 08, 2023, 07:56:01 pm
I agree with our old enemy:

https://gatesofvienna.net/2023/07/dhimmitude-comes-to-europe/#more-55864

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Bat Ye’or is a Counterjihad emerita.

She was already renowned for her contributions to the field long before I ever got into the Islamophobia business, and I became familiar with her work even before we founded this blog. A few years after that I was privileged to meet her at the first Counterjihad Brussels conference in 2007, where she was one of the featured speakers.
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51:29         that is, the European Coordinating Committee of Friendship Societies with the Arab World.
51:36         So, this committee, which existed in all EU countries,
51:44         and which was taken care of by the governments, dealt with impulsion,
51:47         and they would meet with the Arab world’s representatives ,
51:52         over the partnership between the European Commission,
51:59         so therefore at a very high political level within the EU,
52:06         and the Arab League, the OIC, which is the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.
52:16         So all the work done by this Committee Eurabia was done at an extremely important level,
52:24         concerning both the politics of Muslim countries,
52:29         since the OIC is made up of 55 Muslim countries, and for EU politics.
52:35         In my opinion, it is this Committee’s work that has led to the change of policy,
52:45         and their vision consisted in getting rid of the Judeo-Christian culture,
52:52         making the Church break away from Judaism —
52:57         since the Church used to proclaim itself “the new Israel” —

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54:44         In my opinion, and this is something I examine in my book,
54:49         it’s the continuation of Nazism.
54:52         During Nazism, we have seen this strong cultural, military and political fusion,
55:02         united in the extermination of Jews in all the countries occupied by the Third Reich.
55:09         It dealt with creating a union between Europe,
55:16         entirely under the aegis of Hitler and Nazism, and the Arab-Muslim world.

Let's get on with it!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/operation-gaddafi/

Related:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/right-left-(judeo-)christian-divergence/
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 09, 2023, 11:06:36 pm
New blog post:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/our-enemies-concede-that-spenglerism-is-incompatible-with-national-socialism/
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on July 14, 2023, 01:53:55 am
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You see Hitler himself had a quite positive attitude towards Islam. He said several times, "The only religion I respect is Islam. The only prophet I admire is the prophet Muhammad." He said several times in his table talks that "After the final war the swastika will rule over Europe and will represent a new Europe. We will help the Muslims in North Africa and the Middle East to reestablish the Caliphate." That means there would be an Islamic civilization. [And Hitler said] "In the Far East, there will be the rising sun" ---Japan of course. He didn't see China [laughs]. He had no thought for China. He only saw Japan with whom he had an alliance. He spoke of a new stability in the world. The swastika, the crescent, and the rising sun would be a new stability. He said in America, people will wake up [as well as] in Latin America and Black Africa. He was against colonialism, you know. After the beginning, in Mein Kampf, there are still some colonialist ideas he had, like all people of his time. But later in the 1930, especially during the war, he changed.185

Source :

1. The Enemy of My Enemy (Michael book) Page 152

https://archive.org/details/enemyofmyenemyal0000mich/page/152/mode/2up?q=admire

Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on July 28, 2023, 09:50:47 pm
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Prof. Giliomee shows that, tendentious arguments of leftist historians notwithstanding, Nazi ideology had virtually no influence on apartheid. Nationalists were, in his words, “unequivocally rejecting National Socialism as an alien import into South Africa, and endorsing parliamentary democracy.” - American Renaissance 20.7 (2009 July)

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American Renaissance 20.7 (2009 July)

https://archive.org/details/american_renaissance_2009.07/page/n9/mode/2up?q=Nazi+ideology

Comparing South Africans's way of govern with Hitler and Joseph Goebbels

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A man who feels it is his duty at such an hour to assume the leadership of the folk is not responsible to the laws of parliamentary usage or a particular democratic conception, but solely to the mission placed upon him. And anyone who interferes with this mission is an enemy of the folk.” – Adolf Hitler

Adolf Hitler & His Speeches (1939-1945)  by Umair Mirza page 37-38

https://archive.org/details/adolf-hitler_202006/page/34/mode/2up

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We enter parliament in order to supply ourselves, in the arsenal of democracy, with its own weapons. If democracy is so stupid as to give us free tickets and salaries for this bear’s work, that is its affair. We do not come as friends, nor even as neutrals. We come as enemies. - Joseph Goebbels

Source :

The Tyrants' War & the Peoples' Peace oleh Hermens, Ferdinand A. (Ferdinand Aloys), 1906-1998 page 89

https://archive.org/details/tyrantswarpeople0000herm_e4d4/page/88/mode/2up
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 13, 2023, 05:04:17 pm
Enemy article:

https://gatesofvienna.net/2023/10/report-from-sderot-day-5/

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Oradour-sur-Glane was a French village that was totally wiped out by the Waffen SS in 1944
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(https://gatesofvienna.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/oradoursurglane.jpg)

Kfar Aza was a kibbutz in Israel until wiped out by Gazan terrorists last Saturday.
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(https://gatesofvienna.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/kfaraza.png)

Hail Hitler!
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 12, 2023, 03:32:06 pm
https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1723462102214443400 (video at link)

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"Hitler knew how to deal with these people"

One of the pro-Hamas supporters speaks his mind on Israel on the streets of London, England.

As I was saying:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/is-october-2023-the-beginning-of-hitlers-vindication/
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: "anti-semitism" on November 12, 2023, 11:45:21 pm
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

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There is, then, no danger in the circumstances that anti-semitism will disappear, for it is the Jews themselves who add fuel to its flames and see that it is kept well stoked. Before the opposition to it can disappear, the malady itself must disappear. And from that point of view, you can rely on the Jews: as long as they survive, anti-semitism will never fade.

Based on what were seeing in the world right now Hitler was totally right in this respect. The fangs of the dragon of jewry is weakening day by day.
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on November 28, 2023, 07:29:48 pm
Difference between Hitler's National Socialism and Mussolini's Fascism on Racial View

Hitler

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In his recent study Hitler’s American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law, James Q. Whitman methodically illustrates  the links between American and Nazi racism, specifically the ways in  which the Third Reich used the racial legislation of the United States as  a model. Challenging historians who have argued that references to  American racism were merely propaganda, he explores how such parallels appeared repeatedly in internal party debates and literature. In particular, he shows how a variety of Nazi theorists closely studied American race laws, using them as a template for the Nuremberg Laws of  1934–35. He also points out that at times the Nazis considered American ideas of race, notably the one-drop rule of Black identity, too extreme and not relevant to Germany.108

America’s policies toward Native Americans also attracted a lot of  attention in Nazi Germany. The Nazis often made parallels between  America’s westward expansion and their Drang nach Osten, especially  during the beginnings of the invasion of the Soviet Union: Hitler at one  point claimed that the Volga would be the German Mississippi;  “Europe—and not America—will be the land of unlimited possibilities.”109 For Germany, eastward expansion and ultimately racial purification would offer the same advantages America had gained from its conquest of the West. Carroll Kakel and Edward B. Westermann have looked at the relationship between the extermination of America’s Native population and the Holocaust, exploring both the similarities and differences between the two.110 Kakel in particular takes pains to demonstrate that there was more than a little similarity between the concepts of Manifest Destiny and Lebensraum. As one American settler in  Oregon during the 1850s wrote, “Extermination, however unchristianlike it may appear, seems to be the only resort left for the protection of  life and property.”111

Source :

White Freedom The Racial History of an Idea Tyler Edward Stovall 2021 Princeton University Press page 234

Mussolini

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Historians have also considered the relationship between colonialism and fascism in the case of Fascist Italy. Unlike Germany, which had  been stripped of its African colonies after World War I and never regained them, Italy did combine fascism and overseas colonialism. One of Mussolini’s greatest achievements was the conquest of Ethiopia in  1935 and 1936. Before the mid-1930s the attitude of the Italian Fascists to racism had been ambivalent, to say the least: Nordic racism in particular often used as a way of arguing for Italian inferiority, especially after the  Nazi seizure of power, had relatively little appeal. At the same time, however, some fascist theorists, notably Enrico Corradini and Giuseppe Sergi, promoted the image of Italy as a nation of the Mediterranean race, with its own racial gifts and characteristics.119

Erasing the shame of Italy’s defeat at Adowa in 1896 and demonstrating that fascism was able to succeed where liberal democracy had failed, Italy’s victory over the Ethiopians and its new role as a colonial power in Africa both illustrated and fostered the racist dimensions of fascist ideology.120 The occupation of Ethiopia intensified anti-African prejudice among Italian Fascists, and in particular spurred fears of racial mixing and therefore racial degeneration. In August 1936 the Italian government began to enact measures strictly segregating whites and Blacks in  Ethiopia—not merely to preserve the biological sanctity of the Italian race but also to promote racial consciousness in Italy. As Mussolini argued,

Naturally, when a people becomes conscious of its own racial identity, it does so in relation to all the races, not of one alone. We became racially conscious only in the face of the Hamites, that is to say, the  Africans. This is why the racial laws of the empire will be rigorously observed and that all who sin against them will be expelled, punished, imprisoned. Because for the empire to be preserved the natives must be clearly and forcefully aware of our superiority.121

Source :

White Freedom The Racial History of an Idea Tyler Edward Stovall 2021 Princeton University Press page 237

Hitler had more negative sentiment towards the white race rather than the other based on Edward Stovall's observation
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 28, 2023, 08:56:20 pm
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Kakel in particular takes pains to demonstrate that there was more than a little similarity between the concepts of Manifest Destiny and Lebensraum

Except those displaced by Manifest Destiny were not themselves colonialists, whereas those displaced by Lebensraum were. This makes all the moral difference.

See also:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/when-history-is-written-by-leftists-contd/

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CAPE TOWN – The University of Cape Town (UCT) on Friday said it had been alerted and was looking into controversial comments made by one of its lecturers in which he said German dictator Adolf Hitler committed no crimes. Political studies lecturer Lwazi Lushaba allegedly made the comments recently during an online lecture.



Other media have reported that Lushaba further said that what Hitler did to white people was what white people normally reserved for black people.


In other words, Hitler was practicing Ahimsa against the actual criminals.
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on November 29, 2023, 02:49:12 am
Origin of Lebensraum Program

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The concept of Lebensraum formed the key template for the idea of creating a racially based German empire in the East. Lebensraum as an idea first arose in the late nineteenth century in Germany, but it received  224 Chapter 5 new attention in the aftermath of World War I. Basically, the concept argued that for Germany to survive and prosper it must expand eastward, seeking new resources as well as new lands for agricultural exploitation and on which to settle its growing population. In one sense the  idea, or at least the practice, was nothing new; during the Middle Ages groups including the Hanseatic League and the Teutonic Knights promoted what became known as the Ostsiedlung

Source :

White Freedom The Racial History of an Idea Tyler Edward Stovall 2021 Princeton University Press page 238
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on December 20, 2023, 06:47:37 pm
Hitler's view on Western Civilization, December 11, 1941 :

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What is Europe, my deputies? There is no geographical definition of our continent, but only an ethnic-national volkliche and cultural one. The frontier of this continent is not the Ural Mountains, but rather the line that divides the Western outlook on life from that of the East.

At one time, Europe was confined to the Greek isles, which had been reached by Nordic tribes, and where the flame first burned that slowly but steadily enlightened humanity. And when these Greeks fought against the invasion of the Persian conquerors, they did not just defend their own small homeland, which was Greece, but [also] that concept that is now Europe. And then the spirit of Europe shifted from Hellas to Rome. Roman thought and Roman statecraft combined with Greek spirit and Greek culture. An empire was created, the importance and creative power of which has never been matched, much less surpassed, even to this day. And when the Roman legions defended Italy in three terrible wars against the attack of Carthage from Africa, and finally battled to victory, in this case as well Rome fought not just for herself, but also for the Greco-Roman world that then encompassed Europe.

The next invasion against the home soil of this new culture of humanity came from the wide expanses of the East. A horrific storm of cultureless hordes from the center of Asia poured deep into the heart of the European continent, burning, ravaging and murdering as a true scourge of God. On the Catalaunian fields, Roman and Germanic men fought together for the first time in 451 in a decisive battle of tremendous importance for a culture that had begun with the Greeks, passed on to the Romans, and then encompassed the Germanic peoples.

Europe had matured. The West arose from Hellas and Rome, and for many centuries its defense was the task not only of the Romans, but above all of the Germanic peoples. What we call Europe is the geographic territory of the Occident, enlightened by Greek culture, inspired by the powerful heritage of the Roman Empire, its territory enlarged by Germanic colonization. Whether it was the German emperors fighting back invasions from the East on the Unstrut River in 933 or on the Lechfeld in 955 or others pushing back Africa from Spain over a period of many years, it was always a struggle of a developing Europe against a profoundly alien outside world.

Just as Rome once made her immortal contribution to the building and defense of the continent, so now have the Germanic peoples taken up the defense and protection of a family of nations which, although they may differ and diverge in their political structure and goals, nevertheless together constitute a racially and culturally unified and complementary whole.

And from this Europe there have not only been settlements in other parts of the world, but intellectual-spiritual geistig and cultural fertilization as well, a fact that anyone realizes who is willing to acknowledge the truth rather than deny it. Thus, it was not England that cultivated the continent, but rather Anglo-Saxon and Norman branches of the Germanic nation that moved from our continent to the British Island and made possible her development, which is certainly unique in history. In the same way, it was not America that discovered Europe, but the other way around. And all that which America did not get from Europe may seem worthy of admiration to a Jewified mixed race, but Europe regards that merely as symptomatic of decay in artistic and cultural life, the product of Jewish or Negroid blood mixture.

Source :

1. Adolf Hitler's Declaration of War against the United States. (2018, November 11). In Wikisource . Retrieved 00:44, December 21, 2023, from https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler%27s_Declaration_of_War_against_the_United_States&oldid=8920461

2. ADOLF HITLER - WHAT IS EUROPE? - BitChute

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ruFicRcBbeQR/

3. HITLER ANNOUNCED TO THE REICHSTAG THE DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES December 11, 1941 [As recorded by the Monitoring Service of the British Broadcasting Corporation.]

https://www.ibiblio.org/pha/policy/1941/1941-12-11b.html


After that speech happened, his view on the Western Civilization and white race were changed on a later time

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A negro with his taboos is far superior to a human who firmly believes in Transubstantiation. - Adolf Hitler, December 13, 1941

Source: Adolf Hitler - Table Talk page 146

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December 16, 1941 : Führer on Japan : It is astonishing that we, with the help of Japan, are destroying the positions of the white race in East Asia while England together with the Bolshevist are attacking Europe. The white race means the Dutch in the East Indies, the British in Burma, Malaya and Singapore, the US in the Philippines and the French in Indochina.

Hitler's remarks about Japan were put forward December 16, one week after Japan began its offensive against Southeast Asia. This is related to Hitler's statement on the radio which was later also broadcast by Japanese radio and the Japanese press that they are now carrying out a holy war against the white race with one billion Asian people. ..."

Source: Hitler's Footsteps in Indonesia, by Hoorst H. Geerken page 210

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It goes without saying that we have no affinity with Japan. They are too alien to us, to their way of life, to their culture. But my feelings for Americanism are one of deep hatred and disgust

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How could one expect a country like that to come together—a state where 80 percent of its income goes directly to the public purse—a country where everything was built with dollars? From this point of view, I consider the British State far superior. - Adolf Hitler, January 7, 1942

Source: Adolf Hitler - Table Talk page 190

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The dirt was visible on the blacks only when the missionaries, in order to teach them decorum, obliged them to wear clothes. In its natural state, the negro is very clean. For a missionary, the smell of dirt is agreeable. From this point of view, they themselves are the dirtiest pigs. They have water horrors. Adolf Hitler, February 19, 1942

Source: Adolf Hitler - Table Talk pages 319 - 320

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We were ready to throw our forces into the scales for the preservation of the British Empire; and all that, mark you, at a time when, to tell the truth, I feel much more sympathetically inclined to the lowliest Hindu than to any of these arrogant islanders. Later on, the Germans will be pleased that they did not make any contribution to the survival of an out-dated state of affairs for which the world of the future would have found it hard to forgive them. We can with safety make one prophecy: whatever the outcome of this war, the British Empire is at an end. It has been mortally wounded. The future of the British people is to die of hunger and tuberculosis in their cursed island. - Adolf Hitler, 4th February 1945

Source : Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann Documents) Page 7

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Spain, France and England had all weakened, weakened and exhausted themselves in this futile colonial enterprise. The continent from which Spain and England gave birth, which they created piece by piece, has today acquired a completely independent way of life and completely selfish views. Even so, they were just an artificial world, without a soul, culture, or civilization of their own; and judging from that point of view, they were nothing more than dirt.  - Adolf Hitler, 7th February 1945

Source :

Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann Documents) Page 13

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The United States and Australia afford good examples. Success, certainly - but only on the material side. They are artificial edifices, bodies without age, of which it is it is impossible to say whether they are still in a state of infancy or whether they have already been touched by senility. In those continents which were inhabited, failure has been even more marked. In them, the white races have impose their will by force, and the influence they have had on the native inhabitants has been negligible. - Adolf Hitler, 7th February 1945

Source :

Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann Documents) Page 13

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The white races did, of course, give some things to the natives, and they were the worst gifts that they could possibly have made, those plagues of our own modern world-materialism, fanaticism, alcoholism and syphilis. For the rest, since these peoples possessed qualities of their own which were superior to anything we could offer them, they have remained essentially unchanged. Where imposition by force was attempted, the results were even more disastrous, and common sense, realizing the futility of such measures, should preclude any recourse to their introduction. One solitary success must be conceded to the colonizers: everywhere they have succeeded in arousing hatred, a hatred that urges these peoples, awakened from their slumbers by us, to rise and drive us out. - Adolf Hitler, 7th February 1945

Source :

Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann Documents) Page 13 - 14
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on December 20, 2023, 11:04:32 pm
Arthur de Gobineau, French Racialist, rejected National Socialism

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It is not difficult to see how uncongenial Gobineau would have been to National Socialism. To the extent that it was socialist, he would have despised it. He would also have been baffled by its optimism, its assumption that a political movement could save a nation or race. He would have warned against any form of conquest or expansion as leading inevitably to mixture and decline.

Finally, he would have disagreed on the subject of Jews. He cited them as the best refutation of the view that geography or climate influence achievement, pointing out that Jews have succeeded everywhere they have gone. He saw their dispersal from the land of Israel as a tragedy for them but a gain for others: “I repeat, it was a people capable in all that it undertook, a free people, a strong people, an intelligent people. When, with their arms still in their hands, they lost bravely the position of an independent nation, they furnished the world almost as many learned men as merchants.”

Source :

Posted on December 4, 2009 Who Was the ‘Father of Racism’? Thomas Jackson, American Renaissance, July 2007

https://www.amren.com/news/2009/12/who_was_the_fat/
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: antihellenistic on December 21, 2023, 12:10:17 am
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The idea of a racial nation was National Socialism’s point of departure, but from the outset it was a comprehensive theory of applied government designed to funnel the energies of every German into collective goals. It was similar to Communism in this respect, and similar also in the sweeping institutional changes it imposed. In its historical period, however, racial policy was not the most striking aspect of Nazism. In the 1930s, the view that race was an essential element of the nation was no more foreign to Americans than to Germans indeed, no more foreign than it is to virtually every non-white living today. It was hardly the distinctive characteristic of the regime. What was distinctive? What, in fact, did racially aware Americans of the period–people whose ideas would, today, be called “Nazi” think of the Third Reich? We have a fascinating answer in Into the Darkness, the last book by one of the most influential American champions of racial consciousness, Lothrop Stoddard (see AR of Jan. 2000 for an account of his life and thought)

Source :

What Makes a Nazi? Lothrop Stoddard, Into the Darkness, Noontide Press, 2000, $13.95, 311 pp. (facsimile soft-cover reprint) An American racialist meets the Nazis. reviewed by Thomas Jackson

https://www.amren.com/ar/pdfs/2000/200005ar.pdf
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 29, 2023, 05:11:51 pm
Our enemies report:

https://barenakedislam.com/2023/12/28/rumor-has-it-israeli-defense-forces-destroyed-the-popular-hitler-2-store-in-gaza/

(https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Screenshot-2023-12-28-at-2.22.30%E2%80%AFAM.png)

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The name of the shop is ‘Hitler,’ and I like him because he was the most anti-Jewish person,” said then-20-year-old Hijaz Abu Shanab
Title: Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 12, 2024, 06:06:06 pm
Enemy article:

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2024/03/12/caliphate-for-the-uk/

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One act in the tragedy of war is the destruction of venerated architecture. Göring’s Luftwaffe tried desperately to bomb St. Paul’s Cathedral in London during World War II, the bombs falling all around the famous dome but never finding the target.

More evidence that National Socialist Germany was anti-Western (and that Yahweh is pro-Western).

This is what our enemies venerate, and what the Luftwaffe was trying to destroy:

(https://cdn-imgix.headout.com/microbrands-content-image/image/41a656c75d19cb46a27e5e11bb22ae11-St-Paul's-Cathedral-Location.jpg)

(https://historyreclaimed.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/St-Pauls-Cathedral-scaled.jpeg)

(https://lp-cms-production.s3.amazonaws.com/public/2021-04/shutterstockRF_577073740.jpg)

HAIL HITLER! One day we will finish the job! Not just St Paul's, but all Western architecture in the world, and more importantly the bloodlines that came up with such designs!

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/hitler-the-face-of-anti-tribalism/msg16998/#msg16998

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg11512/#msg11512

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/msg8213/?topicseen#msg8213

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/msg9452/?topicseen#msg9452

Back to enemy article:

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Finally, the question every politician asks secretly in that little part of themselves where they think what they really mean. Is it good for the Jews? Anti-Semitic violence is increasing in Britain (although every identitarian group claims the same thing), and the first Jew to die at pro-Palestinian hands in the UK — should that happen — may strike a match to a situation every bit as potentially explosive as the stash of dynamite with which Guy Fawkes attempted to blow up Parliament in 1605.

No, it is not good for the Jews.

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British-Jewish interests are about to discover that there are different types of power and different ways to exert political influence than just money.

At least our enemies openly admit that British and Jewish interests are aligned.