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Title: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: guest5 on August 30, 2020, 01:55:55 pm
Expert compares Trump's politics to fascism
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Yale philosophy professor Jason Stanley explains why he claims President Donald Trump's politics are akin to fascism, a political movement based around a leader.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4MTns3MyxQ

Fascism is about national unity, Trump and rightists are about national division. Trump is as divisive a leader as one can get, Trump cannot be fascist.

(I would hope most political movements revolve around a leader, that is a silly statement to make...).

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Mussolini's Rise to Power

He argued that only a strong leader could unite the people to overcome Italy's postwar mass unemployment, chaotic political party conflicts, and strikes by socialists and communists. In 1919, Mussolini organized his fascist movement in the northern city of Milan.
https://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-25-4-mussolini-and-the-rise-of-fascism.html

Trump and his supporters have increased 'chaotic party conflicts' with their ideology, not decreased them.

Trump and his supporters are tribalists, not fascists!

Furthermore, National Socialism and Fascism are two very different political ideologies.

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The rich ruling class has used tribalism, a primitive caveman instinct, to their advantage since the beginning of time. They use it to divide and conquer us. They drive wedges between us peasants and make us fight each other, so we won’t rise up against our rulers and fight them.

You can observe the same old trick everywhere in America today: Red states and blue states are fighting. Christians and Muslims are fighting. Men and women are fighting. Baby Boomers and Millennials are fighting. Black people and white people are fighting.

That doesn’t just happen all by itself. There are always voices instigating these fights. — Oliver Markus Malloy, Make Racism Wrong Again

What Malloy doesn't realize of course is that the 'ruling class' are tribalists themselves!

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We live in this bubble of ignorance. Most people know nothing about history, or the historical context of the traditions they still follow today. People do things without knowing why they're doing them. — Oliver Markus Malloy
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: guest5 on August 30, 2020, 03:54:36 pm
Noam Chomsky Says Trump is WORSE Than Hitler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6mAf_uPy-o

Noam Chomsky clearly understands nothing about Hitler, should we be surprised considering Chomsky is Jewish himself? Or, is Chomsky being intentionally deceptive?

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We live in this bubble of ignorance. Most people know nothing about history, or the historical context of the traditions they still follow today. People do things without knowing why they're doing them. — Oliver Markus Malloy

Consequently, this is why I do not like most people all that much....

Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: Killthebank on September 01, 2020, 12:53:39 am
If you look at the comments in some of the conservative videos, quite a few of them compare the BLM protestors to Nazis or Brown Shirts. Do THEY understand what Hitler was all about?
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: guest5 on September 01, 2020, 12:30:45 pm
If you look at the comments in some of the conservative videos, quite a few of them compare the BLM protestors to Nazis or Brown Shirts. Do THEY understand what Hitler was all about?

Are you aware rightists and leftist forces shot it out in the streets of Germany after WWI? Some of the similarities between Germany post WWI and the U.S. of today are uncanny. Some could even argue we are heading for a Wiemar Republic 2.0 in the United States present day. Although, I do not know if I agree fully with that assessment considering Democratic Socialism doesn't have a strong foot hold in the U.S. as it did the Wiemar Republic. BLM calls for unity among all anti-racists and leftists, much like the NSDAP called for unity among leftist forces in the face of Jewish racism. BLM confronts Jewish racism just as the NSDAP did, the NSDAP being much better at it though obviously. BLM does not have a well thought out political ideology behind it either, as far as I can tell.

The slogan of the NSDAP may as well have been: "German Lives Matter". So, there is a parallel there as well.

The only thing that is missing in the U.S. present day unfortunately are true revolutionary socialists....





Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: Killthebank on September 01, 2020, 03:23:09 pm
It was a rhetorical question. The BLM critics probably don't know how correct they are making that comparison.

If only BLM supporters would not call the opposition Nazis. Maybe a slur for an identitarian?

Did the Brown Shirts and Hitler Youth destroy businesses indiscriminately?
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: guest5 on September 01, 2020, 08:26:42 pm
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Maybe a slur for an identitarian?

I think the word racists works fine. The sooner this battle becomes a battle between racist vs. anti-racists the better it will be for anti-racists.

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Did the Brown Shirts and Hitler Youth destroy businesses indiscriminately?

During Kristallnacht the SA targeted Jewish stores and synagogues for destruction against the wishes of Hitler. I believe there is a speech out there that Hitler gave just before Kristallnacht in-which he states how "a single hair on a Jews head should not be harmed", even after Judea declared war on Germany. Hitler was shocked by Kristallnacht and in private spoke on how Jews would use it against him. (I cannot recall where I read that at the moment).
German anger was understandable in that regard though some would argue considering how Jews boycotted German businesses. Many Germans already held a deep rooted grudge against Jews because of the general strike that was created by Marxists in Germany near the end of WWI, a war where Germany looked like it was going to be the sole victor over England, France, and Russia. The general strike cost Germany the war ultimately. Many Germans viewed the general strike as a "stab in the back" by Jews toward Germany, Germany having historically been one of the only nations where Jews were truly protected by the state.

So, to answer your question, no, not really. Germans were very specific on which businesses they targeted for destruction and that work was mostly carried out by the SA against Hitler's will some would argue.
(https://external-preview.redd.it/YaXVtGb40IwykjywOVUAyIHmWsAU7b8HbM6PkzkFFOw.jpg?auto=webp&s=b220b5f35e7c37f563dffc5bfb65deccc2b526a4)

I disagree with targeting small businesses indiscriminately also. However, how do we know that some of the destruction being done to small business present day in the U.S. is not the result of provocateurs infiltrating groups like the BLM?

Why not target the big corporations who are known to support racist causes, like Home Depot for example? Isn't the CEO of Home Depot a Trump supporter? I don't understand this either. I could understand targeting specific small business who are known to support racists, but that doesn't seem to be what is happening either....?



Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: Dazhbog on September 01, 2020, 09:18:09 pm
I think the word racists works fine.

Well said. Instead of arduously trying to convince leftists who haven't yet seen the light that National Socialism is good and Fascism is at least not bad, for the time being it's sufficient to convince them to label our enemies racists and nothing else. The notion that "you don't have to be a Nazi to be racist" already seems to be quite widespread among the Woke, so people who insist on calling them "Nazis" or "Fascists" can at least be called out for diluting the issue.
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: Killthebank on September 02, 2020, 08:34:44 pm
In Portland, they're still targeting the Federal building which practically a fortress. There's a small FED branch several blocks away which would be an easy ransack. Hopefully, it would motivate others to target the main regional branches.

Heck downtown is full of bank and insurance buildings; as well as a bunch of Starbucks.

Alex Jones did stories on agent provacateurs about 10 years ago. I remember protestors catching a masked guy with a rock and telling him to put it down. I forget what the protest was about.
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 02, 2020, 11:23:18 pm
Only False Leftists would see similarities between Trump supporters and Muslims:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8687505/Rep-Ilhan-Omar-accuses-MSNBC-host-Joy-Reid-Islamophobia.html

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Rep. Ilhan Omar accuses MSNBC host Joy Reid of 'Islamophobia' after she compared 'radicalized' Donald Trump supporters to 'the way Muslims act'

It is up to True Leftists to correct them:

(https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-01-at-9.14.14-PM.png)

(https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-01-at-8.34.51-PM.png)

(https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Screen-Shot-2020-09-01-at-8.36.15-PM.png)
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: Danzz on January 18, 2021, 09:35:44 am
Correct me if i'm wrong. but did jews not live under Mussolini
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: guest5 on January 24, 2021, 02:40:26 pm
Pompeo Says He's Fascist Without Saying He's Fascist
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Mike Pompeo cries America should not be woke and multicultural.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EC2sH1W7J0

False-leftists often confuse multi-culturalism with multi-ethnic, they are not the same. You can have a multi-ethnic society and still have a mono-culture. Multi-culturalism just further divides a country. Division is tribalism. Fascism is unity. False-leftists do not understand fascism, socialism, national socialism, nationalism, or tribalism. What do false-leftists actually understand, other than the fact that they are supposedly leftists?
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 24, 2021, 11:09:56 pm
Authentic fascism from the original fascists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPuEO0VAh04

In contrast, rightists actually value multiculturalism and diversity, but only among "white" cultures:

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2021/01/27/saving-the-white-race-the-problem-and-solutions-part-3-of-3/

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An important consideration for White preservation is that the White race is not a single homogeneous population, but a group of populations with great variety and diversity within the group yet distinct genotypically and phenotypically from the populations outside the group. A sufficient solution for White racial preservation should also preserve that sub-racial population diversity.

This is the real double-standard. "White" immigrants who do not assimilate are praised for enriching the host country with their cultural distinctiveness (e.g. I can't count the number of times I have seen Melania's accent has been praised by (mostly male) rightists!), whereas "non-white" immigrants who do not assimilate are accused of polluting the host country with their "Third World ways" (have you ever seen a rightist praising Omar's accent?).

False Leftists cannot tell the difference between a Roman and a rightist.
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 13, 2021, 11:55:35 pm
Fascist cleaning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXXgYYxh2ds
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: Zea_mays on March 14, 2021, 07:00:22 pm
From the beginning of US history, the government has abounded with authentic (non-racist) fascist symbolism. Anyone who spends a single millisecond contemplating the pro-unity symbolism of the fasces can recognize Trump is antithetical to fascism.

https://authenticamericandream.blogspot.com/2018/06/no-fascist-usa-counterproductive.html

Nancy Pelosi even worse a fascist symbol during Trump's first impeachment (but, strangely, not during his second).

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WM7dmpecyBc/X_zlZMrCg3I/AAAAAAAACNI/QNIOWN6fnCcDWCrGJEeU9eYMvVtEsysNQCLcBGAsYHQ/s980/speaker-of-the-house-nancy-pelosi-presides-over-resolution-news-photo-1576776129.jpeg)

If the photo was zoomed out more, you would see her standing between two giant fasces.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-R5jK-lWb_O8/WxL9yqv37VI/AAAAAAAABRQ/xGpVDe9aYKEHgV6sv_X0XEH8kxK58_ZEACLcBGAs/s1600/main-qimg-e4af56ece8ee0851755a108a225125ab.png)
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: guest5 on March 19, 2021, 11:43:34 am
Love this meme you posted on your article:
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ut6JyiIwVqs/WxL5xgEb7AI/AAAAAAAABQQ/btuTcr-OUa8OaSu8gUYK6uilvehP-O1CgCLcBGAs/s320/lhXYef3.jpg)

This meme applies to at the least 95% of Americans I believe....
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 27, 2021, 10:23:12 pm
Fascist PE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PtX8BNLn_c
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: rp on April 01, 2021, 03:53:23 am
https://youtu.be/7CYUxLbl_PM

This video PERFECTLY describes fascism, but the False Leftist narrator tries to subtly imply that TRUMP is the embodiment of this system, and hence fascism is bad.

Is Trump charismatic? NO!! He is ugly AF and his repulsive personality is the antithesis of "charisma" which is evident in any of his interactions with children. Contrast this with Hitler, whose personality attracted children. Only BARBARIANS (incl. some False Leftists) would be attracted to Trump's personality.

Does Trump unite everyone against a common enemy? NO!! He pits one group against another group, so how can it be said that there is a "common" enemy, much less that he is "uniting" people against this enemy?!

Title: ‘Who thought this was a good idea?’: Jill Biden gives speech in front of giant ‘NAZI-INSPIRED’ flag
Post by: guest5 on April 01, 2021, 10:22:00 pm
‘Who thought this was a good idea?’: Jill Biden gives speech in front of giant ‘NAZI-INSPIRED’ flag
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First Lady Jill Biden raised some eyebrows when she spoke in front of an ominous-looking red, white, and black eagle flag. Though the flag didn’t originate in Nazi Germany, it was reportedly inspired by Third Reich aesthetics.

Jill Biden was in Delano, California, on Wednesday, giving a speech to farm workers, urging them to get vaccinated and promising immigration reform. She praised the late union leader Cesar Chavez, whom President Joe Biden honored by declaring March 31 ‘Cesar Chavez Day,’ an annual tradition started by Barack Obama in 2014.

Behind her, however, was a flag that set some alarm bells ringing online. The giant banner featured a black eagle on a red and white background, a combination of color and imagery typically associated with Nazi Germany.
https://www.rt.com/usa/519883-jill-biden-nazi-flag/

Can these morons get anymore pathetic? They really reaching now aren't they?

United Farm Workers flag!
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51WLLbKp1gL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)


Title: Re: ‘Who thought this was a good idea?’: Jill Biden gives speech in front of giant ‘NAZI-INSPIRED’ flag
Post by: Zea_mays on April 03, 2021, 11:51:59 pm
Chavez designed the flag in 1962, so he would have been well-aware of its similarity to the NS flag.

Also, look at this mural--he's basically leading a NS rally!

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/M6AINws1LJSnAXl5CpP8gtuYcqA=/0x0:1280x960/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1280x960):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7821991/11099672666_a76d2d15eb_o.jpg)

Bonus:
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8a/5a/82/8a5a8257baca4232d0aaf6de19c039e6.jpg)
Title: Re: ‘Who thought this was a good idea?’: Jill Biden gives speech in front of giant ‘NAZI-INSPIRED’ flag
Post by: guest5 on April 04, 2021, 09:29:52 pm
Not too hard to tell what's on Russian minds these days aye? The forces of change are upon them and they have no anchor to reality, or truth on their side. That's nothing new for Russians. Good luck with it all!

‘Gestapo out!’ Canadian cops chased out by enraged pastor after reportedly trying to stop Passover prayer
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugws1QVEN_pP1hWusbx4AaABCQ
Title: Re: ‘Who thought this was a good idea?’: Jill Biden gives speech in front of giant ‘NAZI-INSPIRED’ flag
Post by: Dazhbog on April 06, 2021, 06:35:50 pm
Also, note how aesthetically superior the stylized eagle-design on the UFW-flag is in comparison to the designs commonly found in Western heraldry:

Spoiler (hover to show)

Which style is closer to that of the classic Third Reich-eagle? Judge for yourself!

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Biden disapproval
Post by: guest55 on August 15, 2021, 01:54:55 pm
Chris Hedges | Biden CANNOT HELP US —will cause FASCISM!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv1IE0zvDLo

To "cause Fascism" Biden would have to be able to unite the entire country. I would argue no U.S. leader or "elite", including Trump, has what it takes to unite the entire country. All Biden will do is worsen the tribalism that is already plaguing the U.S. A true fascist cannot be a tribalist at the same time. This is common sense.

Reminder:

A New Report Offers Insights Into Tribalism in the Age of Trump
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/a-new-report-offers-insights-into-tribalism-in-the-age-of-trump

The Rise of Tribalism in the United States
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and it's impact in discussing the plight of minority groups in the time of COVID-19.
https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/8f7f70d97eed4249ad573ade02b3a9f8

Tribalism in the Age of Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDvwFSTImNM

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Robert
6 days ago
Hedges is correct, Politicians won't change a system they have spent their whole life becoming part of.
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MORE1500
1 week ago
Unfortunately, too many Americans [WESTERNERS] consider making money to be more important than democracy[NATION and COMMUNITY].  For some, wealth is a sign of virtue. These paradigms will be difficult to break.

If you believe you are the sum of all that which you own you are an egomaniac.
Title: Fascist Cops RAVAGE Los Angeles In New Stunt
Post by: guest55 on September 11, 2021, 04:41:45 pm
John meant to say "Stasi", or is John now also going to call all "census workers" Fascists as well?

Fascist STASI Cops RAVAGE Los Angeles In New Stunt
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LAPD goes full fascist in the a new social media stunt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26kHrQViMFI

It more often than not feels like you have to do the thinking for False-Leftists your self because they sure as hell aren't going to do it. And their love for trigger-words is getting really annoying, especially when they have no real understanding of the trigger-words they use!

Lessons from the Stasi – A cautionary tale on mass surveillance
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/03/lessons-from-the-stasi/

Lest we forget the Romans were actual FASCISTS!!!:
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The Romans solved the problem by creating a body of “census takers”. The census takers were organized in Rome and then were sent all over the Roman empire and on the appointed day a census was taken. Then, after taking the census, the census takers headed back to Rome where the results were tabulated centrally.
https://tdan.com/big-data-and-the-roman-census-approach/17244

These are the topics that come up when you do searches like: "data collection in the ancient world", and searches of that nature. Something the false-leftists over at TYT are obviously way too lazy to do themselves!?

Title: Re: Fascist Cops RAVAGE Los Angeles In New Stunt
Post by: guest55 on September 11, 2021, 05:13:10 pm
Think about this fact also, and perhaps the unfamiliar will also realize how dangerous false-leftist rhetoric actually is to True Leftists:

In the above video clip imagine if John had actually said the LAPD are behaving like the "Stasi" instead of "Fascists"!? Think about the damage that would have done to the rightist worldview rather than calling them fascists! Rightists would then have been forced to ask themselves, "Why I were being called 'Marxists' by leftists?". Instead, John decided to uphold the status-quo by calling rightists a word (which he himself clearly does not understand, just like rightists themselves) which they are ready to embrace.

How do you even begin to solve a problem you have absolutely no understanding of!? False-Leftists really need to be asking themselves these types of questions at this point!!!
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: arthuriana on September 13, 2021, 11:33:21 am
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/09/07/judith-butler-gender-trans-feminism-terf/
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Feminist icon Judith Butler compares TERFs and so-called ‘gender critics’ to fascists.

No, Judith. Terfs are tribalists.

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TERFs “will not be part of the contemporary struggle against fascism tribalism”.

Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 29, 2021, 09:47:01 pm
The authentic fascist way (ie. the exact opposite of Trump's approach) of dealing with coronavirus:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-300-coronavirus-cases-means-093725362.html

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In China, 300 coronavirus cases means public shaming, marooned travelers and a nationwide dragnet
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In many countries, those kinds of numbers would be untroubling or even a cause for celebration. But not in China, which remains steadfastly committed to eliminating the virus while most of the world shifts toward mitigation.

The arrival of the more transmissible delta variant in China earlier this year only served to strengthen the Chinese Communist Party's confidence in its "zero covid" approach and pride in its ability to mobilize the masses to stamp out outbreaks.

Now, authorities have once again launched something akin to a nationwide manhunt to restrain the virus by tracking down the transmission chain and quarantining anyone with exposure - no matter how fleeting and irrespective of whether they had been vaccinated.

On Thursday, authorities halted two high-speed trains traveling to Beijing because of a single passenger on each who was deemed a close contact of a confirmed case. Despite no one on board being confirmed as a carrier, all of the nearly 350 passengers were put in centralized quarantine.
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Local authorities have also meted out severe punishments for those who fail to comply with containment measures, with Beijing police on Wednesday announcing 19 criminal investigations over individuals suspected of violating epidemic-related laws.
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In case the message was unclear, Chinese state broadcaster CCTV on Wednesday released an interview with a Beijing-based lawyer in which he explained that failure to follow coronavirus protocols could constitute "endangering public safety in dangerous ways" - a crime, he added, that carries the death penalty.

(https://www.ledgerinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/china-flag-810x476.jpg)

Now if only China could learn to treat Western civilization the same way it treats coronavirus.....
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 01, 2021, 09:18:47 pm
More authentic fascism:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-moves-curb-excess-eating-215329743.html

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China moves to curb excess eating and food waste
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China released an action plan on Monday to try and curb citizens' overindulgence in food, asking diners not to order more than they need and encouraging them to report establishments they see wasting grub, reports Bloomberg. The plan also "advocates buffets for official receptions rather than banquets, while banning companies from hosting lavish feasts" for something like a meeting or a training.

Additionally, catering services will have to remind customers to order just the right amount of food, while simultaneously providing the option of smaller servings. Households will be asked to make "full use" of ingredients, and purchase food on demand.

The campaign is just the nation's latest attempt to "rein in excesses across all aspects of society," Bloomberg writes. It will remain in effect through 2025, and arrives in the wake of calls from President Xi Jinping to "reduce food waste and bolster food security."

The effort would also allow China to reduce dependency on imports and better handle disruption. The campaign's other provisions include improving "drying conditions and capacity for grain production"; strengthening infrastructure "to reduce grain loss during transportation"; and training farmers on "proper grain storage."

Contrast with Trump spending as much (taxpayer) money as possible on food for state events because the catering was provided by his own hotels.....

Will False Leftists please stop calling Trumpism "fascism"?
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 22, 2021, 08:32:45 pm
The attitudes of street-level Trumpists (anti-mask, anti-lockdown, etc.) are also the opposite that of those whom authentic fascism would consider to be good citizens:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-china-still-trying-achieve-000537362.html

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Around the world people are getting used to post-lockdown life with vaccines doing the heavy lifting against Covid-19 as restrictions are eased. In China however, a hard elimination policy remains where the pandemic first began.

A person walks into a five-star hotel to ask briefly for directions and ends up in two weeks quarantine because a guest had some coronavirus contact. One crew member on a high-speed train has close contact with an infected person, and a trainload of passengers is sent to quarantine for mass testing. In Shanghai Disneyland, 33,863 visitors suddenly have to undergo mass testing because a visitor the day before got infected.
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When you speak to ordinary Chinese people in the street, you will find that many do not seem to mind the continued strict anti-virus measures as long as they are kept safe.

I asked one woman whether China should open faster and she said it would be best to wait until the pandemic is sorted out properly because safety is number one.

Another woman heading home from work told me the virus is not completely understood, that vaccines would improve and so, for the sake of social stability, it would be best to hold off opening up.

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Dr Zhong Nanshan is seen as something of a medical hero in China. The specialist in respiratory medicine shot to global fame in 2003 for challenging the then-government's line that the Sars outbreak was not so severe.

These days, people - including officials - listen to what he has to say.

In a recent interview, he said China's strict Covid amelioration measures would remain for "a rather long time".

He added that a global Covid-19 mortality rate of 2% was too high for China to accept even with vaccines in place. The cost of opening too quickly was not worth it, he said, adding that China would be watching the experience of other countries under their "living-with-Covid" plans.
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While middle and upper class people may be lamenting the lack of freedom to move about internationally, many ordinary Chinese citizens seem content to allow the government to manage the situation if it keeps them healthy.
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: guest55 on November 22, 2021, 10:23:04 pm
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many ordinary Chinese citizens seem content to allow the government to manage the situation if it keeps them healthy.

Amazing!!! Ordinary citizens being honest enough with themselves to realize that politics is not for everyone! Just imagine if everyone thought they were the best mechanic or doctor to have ever existed, that couldn't possibly be true could it? Yet, western democracy has many westerners believing they should be politicians and political leaders. Then, to top it all off they elect a Trump! The average westerners delusions under democracy are disturbing at best!

Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 13, 2021, 08:48:28 pm
For comparison, here is how non-fascists react to the pandemic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnoWNl8BamI
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: Zea_mays on December 16, 2021, 07:22:10 pm
This is funny because this Karl Marx avatar Twitter user doesn't realize this meme is literally describing fascism.

(https://i.redd.it/5k6yazbb5d481.jpg)

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It's always the best when you get someone to agree with Marx without them realizing you're talking about Marx.
https://old.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/rbxv9e/its_always_the_best_when_you_get_someone_to_agree/


Here's the full scene from the movie. Literal fascism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20LuSlZT4S4


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The symbolism of the fasces suggests strength through unity (see Unity makes strength); a single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is very difficult to break.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces#Origin_and_symbolism

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The Italian term fascismo is derived from fascio, meaning 'bundle of sticks', ultimately from the Latin word fasces.[2]
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The symbolism of the fasces suggested strength through unity: a single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is difficult to break.[16]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Etymology

It's literally on the Wikipedia page for fascism, but they think it's communism. LOL.
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 31, 2022, 08:48:17 pm
Our enemies report:

https://gatesofvienna.net/2022/01/shoot-the-anti-vaxers/

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Ostfildern — Christof Bolay (54, SPD), mayor of the city of Ostfildern near Stuttgart, is currently under heavy fire. The reason: a general decree against the so-called “Monday walks”!

But first things first: Tens of thousands of people have been taking to the streets across Germany for weeks, protesting during “walks” against the Corona measures taken by the federal and state governments.

In Baden-Württemberg, too, thousands are always on their feet.

The “walks” are often a thorn in the side of politicians, and numerous cities have banned the unannounced protests.

This also applies to the 39,000-inhabitant town of Ostfildern. And that’s when the trouble started for the head of the town hall, Bolay.

The 54-year-old posted the corresponding general decree of his city on his Twitter account.

“There’s no other way,” he noted, “from January 28, unregistered ‘walks’ staged to oppose the applicable Corona rules are prohibited in Ostfildern — no matter what day of the week.”

But the users took a closer look at the general decree and discovered one passage in particular that raised blood pressure.
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It says there: “In order to ensure that the ban on assembly is observed, the use of direct coercion, i.e. the influence on people through simple physical violence, tools of physical violence or the use of weapons is threatened.”

After weighing up the conflicting interests, this is proportionate. And: “It is necessary because there are no more lenient means that would prevent potential meeting participants from holding the prohibited meetings.”

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    Use of weapons against measures critics? All hell broke loose under the tweet!
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    Another user commented: “Anyone who wants to curtail or even abolish the basic right, which should protect the citizen against state attacks, cannot be a democrat. Only fascists do that. No one can get that through in court and you know it.”

Yes! This is fascism, and fascism is what we need to defeat COVID!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces#Origin_and_symbolism

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The fasces was a portable kit for flogging and decapitation. Roman lictors arrested and punished people, and acted as bodyguards for the powerful; they used the rods to lash people, and the ax to execute them.

(I have been calling for anyone not wearing a mask outside their homes to be shot since Day 1 of the pandemic.)
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: guest55 on January 31, 2022, 09:10:43 pm
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(I have been calling for anyone not wearing a mask outside their homes to be shot since Day 1 of the pandemic.)

I of course agree in theory that anyone not adhering to the Covid-19 protocols deserve being shot on site, and the shooter would be totally justified in doing so. Most Westerners have not, and probably would not, agree with this because they are democratic and believe freedom means they get to do whatever the hell they want and to anybody they want to do it to. However, I wonder if this next strain does actually make the necessary mutation and starts jumping to humans if atleast some Westerners will change their mind on this, because this next potential strain has a supposed 33% mortality rate?: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/coronavirus/msg10905/#msg10905
This means 1 in 3 people will die from it.

Had it been Ebola would Westerners still be running around like morons spreading the virus around with no care in the world for anyone else?



Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 28, 2022, 03:13:57 am
We were saying this more than five years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSg8f6BYY_A
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 24, 2022, 08:03:40 pm
Although Hartmann still uses the word "fascist" once towards the end of the video, overall this is a tremendous improvement in how to describe Trumpism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgXgSA3z5do

This is the equivalency we should be promoting in leftist rhetoric.

Related:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/trumpism-is-an-echo/

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/our-enemies-admit-national-socialism-is-incompatible-with-the-confederacy/
Title: Re: Police rightist bias
Post by: NSFAN on June 13, 2022, 05:25:42 pm
What did the Cop do that was racist? I suspect the Cop in question maybe a Neo-Nazi because of face-shape and because of police rightist-bias, but I do not see how military insignia is inherently racist? Nor is the swastika inherently racist either...

Reminder:
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Stalag (Hebrew: סטאלג) was a short-lived genre of Nazi exploitation Holocaust pornography in Israel that flourished in the 1950s and early 1960s, and stopped at the time of the Eichmann Trial, due to a ban by the Israeli government.[1] These books were mainly about female German Nazi officers sexually abusing their male camp prisoners, yet they did not include any Jewish names to avoid taboos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalag_fiction

It's OK when Jews joke about the "Holocaust"?

Nazi Cop Rakes In $1.5 Million From CIty
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"KENT, Wash. (AP) — A suburban Seattle city will pay more than $1.5 million to settle a dispute with a former assistant police chief who was disciplined for posting a Nazi rank insignia on his office door and joking about the Holocaust.

Former Kent Assistant Police Chief Derek Kammerzell, who had been with the department for nearly three decades, was initially given two weeks of unpaid leave after the 2020 incident. Outraged residents and members of the Jewish community prompted Mayor Dana Ralph to put Kammerzell on paid administrative leave and demand his resignation.

The city’s attempt to essentially discipline Kammerzell a second time led to a dispute between his lawyers and the city that appeared headed for litigation. But interim city Chief Administrative Officer Arthur “Pat” Fitzpatrick, who is also the city attorney, said Friday the city had resolved the matter through negotiation, The Seattle Times reported."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsHifGMULXA

Facts Western minds have a hard time accepting and reconciling to themselves:

(https://pics.onsizzle.com/aryan-national-socialist-neo-nazi-non-st-co-naziball-3428957.png)

(https://jewishphilosophyplace.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/jewish-neo-nazis.jpg?w=640&h=640)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuiBvGQh5gsmlpxsreyzhxeXwj1R-6CuKqnvCxAAs3kNCdT-lcbIU75LqExwMTrCdjwEI&usqp=CAU)

This is how deep Russian propaganda and double speak has effected most Westerners:

(https://i.imgflip.com/2l8hjq.jpg)

Lastly, Westerners like to delude themselves into believing they are "good people" who are incapable of murdering BILLIONS of 'other' people:

(https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-let-me-say-it-openly-we-are-surrounded-by-an-enterprise-of-degradation-cruelty-and-killing-j-m-coetzee-78-12-74.jpg)

Just an example of how wrong Westerners are about all this from one of God's prophets:
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The Quran further describes all living things as Muslim, in that they live the way Allah created them to live and obey Allah's laws in the natural world. Although animals don't have free will, they follow their natural, God-given instincts and can be said to "submit to God's will," which is the essence of Islam.

Because animals are living creatures with feelings and connections to the larger spiritual and physical world, Muslims must consider their lives as worthwhile and cherished:
https://www.learnreligions.com/animal-welfare-2004394

Another:

(https://trueleft.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.humanedecisions.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F06%2FBuddhist.jpg&hash=9bd8228d98181c7a6e2f488a11ac1137705a233b)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/c9/98/16c998da8274c3ce247455107365fe47.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: Zea_mays on June 13, 2022, 07:33:03 pm
The article is just clickbait trash without substance, but I like the title at least.

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Why kids love ‘fascist’ cartoons like ‘Paw Patrol’ and ‘Thomas’
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The neat moral order of shows like “Thomas” and “Paw Patrol” gives them a context for these feelings, explained Tovah Klein, director of the Barnard College Center for Toddler Development and author of “How Toddlers Thrive.” Good and bad are clearly articulated states in those shows, she said, and should one misbehave, the repercussions are clear and predictable.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/22/health/thomas-tank-engine-paw-patrol-fascist-cartoon-strauss/index.html

The quote above is supposed to be a bad thing, in the opinion of the author and grown ups.

See this other post about how psychological studies have shown young children have very strong moral opinions and a sense of fairness:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/superiority-cannot-be-taught/msg10328/#msg10328

But, again, that's supposed to be "childish" and bad? Lol.

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“This is an age group that is constantly dealing with all these negative feelings in themselves. ‘Am I good?’ ‘Am I bad?’ They are trying to figure out what that means,” Klein said.

These shows also help children navigate their paradoxical relationship with power. On one hand, they desperately want some power. Watching the pups in “Paw Patrol” go on a mission or the trains in “Thomas” being useful allows them to feel as though they too have an important role to play.

On the other hand, children take comfort in the idea that someone is in charge.
To them, Ryder isn’t a megalomaniac, and Sir Topham Hatt of “Thomas” isn’t a neocolonial autocrat. They’re just the guys delegating responsibilities to their eager inferiors.

It's not paradoxical at all. Children like it when FAIR INDIVIDUALS are in charge. Children "desperately want power" because UNJUST TYRANTS (i.e. parents and teachers) unfairly control every element of their own lives. Children like fantasy worlds where young characters are respected and fairly allowed to live up to their potential. I imagine nearly all examples of children "acting out" are children trying to make adults realize they deserve respect, agency, and autonomy...

This is all obvious if you have even the most basic memories of your own childhood.

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“Children know there are a lot of scary things in the world, that there are a lot of bad things that can happen, and these shows make them feel like they could be part of fixing it,” Klein said. “But they know at some level that they can’t take care of things solely on their own, and being part of a team makes them feel safe.”

Again, the author thinks this is a bad thing...? It is difficult to argue against a core principle of ideological fascism by making it sound appealing. Lol  ;D

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Uhls said preschool-age children pay close attention to social cues and status, all in an attempt to figure out where they stand. The clearly articulated hierarchies in these cartoons confirm what they are struggling to understand in their own lives: mainly, that someone else, probably a parent or teacher, is in charge.

Again, that's why they like the fair autocracy in fantasy, as opposed to the UNJUST TYRANNY of the hierarchy they are forced to live in every day.

The author also predictably misses the point by trying to start gender wars over cartoons involving talking dogs and talking trains?
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: rp on June 13, 2022, 07:36:13 pm
The author is most likely Jewish, given their last name.
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 18, 2022, 08:35:21 pm
"Children like it when FAIR INDIVIDUALS are in charge."
"that's why they like the fair autocracy in fantasy, as opposed to the UNJUST TYRANNY of the hierarchy they are forced to live in every day."

Similarly, in foreign policy, children like interventionism in support of the good guys, as opposed to interventionism in support of the bad guys, but they certainly do not like non-interventionism. And by good guys/bad guys, they are thinking in terms of moral absolutes as opposed to good/bad for one's own interests. In fantasy, certainly, both non-interventionism and self-interested interventionism would not be inspiring plotlines. The only inspiring plotline is heroic interventionism.

Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 10, 2022, 06:05:56 pm
Fascist infrastructure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZn1iC9JJRc
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 12, 2022, 01:35:02 am
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/san-diego-teacher-defines-fascist-to-class-as-whites-heterosexuals-and-christians

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EXCLUSIVE — A teacher from Madison High School in San Diego claimed fascists are synonymous with the "modern-day Republican Party" and "white, Christian, heterosexuals," according to a student at the school.
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The student took a picture during the class that shows how the teacher defined "fascist." On the classroom's white dry-erase board, the teacher wrote the word "fascist," underlined it, and listed the words: Trump, heterosexual, white, Christian, and hatred of foreigners, immigrants, and minorities, among others.

In reality:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces#Origin_and_symbolism

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The symbolism of the fasces suggests strength through unity (see Unity makes strength); a single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is very difficult to break.

Clinton's 2016 campaign slogan was the fascist slogan:

(https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2019_07/2750901/190212-hillary-clinton-2016-stronger-together-ew-136p.jpg)

The more minorities included, the more rods forming the bundle, meaning the stronger the fasces! The more immigrants, the more extra rods joining the bundle, meaning the stronger the fasces! (Immigrants are also emigrants, which means the bundles of other countries end up with fewer rods at the same time as your bundle ends up with more rods, hence fascism should prize immigrants doubly!) And "heterosexual"? Does this 'teacher' know anything at all?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome

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Homosexuality in ancient Rome often differs markedly from the contemporary West. Latin lacks words that would precisely translate "homosexual" and "heterosexual".[1]
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Love or desire between males is a very frequent theme in Roman literature. In the estimation of a modern scholar, Amy Richlin, out of the poems preserved to this day, those addressed by men to boys are as common as those addressed to women.[20]
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Homoerotic themes occur throughout the works of poets writing during the reign of Augustus, including elegies by Tibullus[36] and Propertius,[37] several Eclogues of Vergil, especially the second, and some poems by Horace. In the Aeneid, Vergil – who, according to a biography written by Suetonius, had a marked sexual preference for boys[38][39] – draws on the Greek tradition of pederasty in a military setting by portraying the love between Nisus and Euryalus,[40] whose military valor marks them as solidly Roman men (viri).[41] Vergil describes their love as pius, linking it to the supreme virtue of pietas as possessed by the hero Aeneas himself, and endorsing it as "honorable, dignified and connected to central Roman values".[42]
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When whole objects rather than mere fragments are unearthed, homoerotic scenes are usually found to share space with pictures of opposite-sex couples, which can be interpreted to mean that heterosexuality and homosexuality (or male homosexuality, in any case) are of equal value.[52][54]
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The treatment given to the subject in such vessels is idealized and romantic, similar to that dispensed to heterosexuality. The artist's emphasis, regardless of the sex of the couple being depicted, lies in the mutual affection between the partners and the beauty of their bodies.[56]
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 27, 2022, 09:35:10 pm
Stop comparing Meloni to Mussolini!

Meloni:

https://barenakedislam.com/2022/09/27/italys-newly-elected-prime-minister-on-islam-muslims/

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STOP mass Muslim illegal immigration immediately. Build walls. Enforce a naval blockade against migrant boats from Africa. And don’t grant automatic citizenship to Muslim migrants who are already here, as proposed by the last administration.

Make Islamic fundamentalism and the practice of sharia a federal crime. Shut down mosques.

Mussolini:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Islam_(Mussolini)

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In 1934, after the creation of Italian Libya, Mussolini adopted a policy for encouraging comparisons with Islam, calling the local population "Italian Muslims of the fourth shore of Italy", building or restoring mosques and Quranic schools, preparing service facilities for the pilgrims going to Mecca and even making a High School of Islamic Culture in Tripoli.
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In order to earn the favour of the Arabs and to seal himself the alliance, Mussolini, although a signatory of the Lateran Treaty with the Holy See, decided to have bestowed on him the title of Protector of Islam.[3]
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Mussolini reaffirmed his closeness to the Muslim population, guaranteeing "peace, justice, wellness and respect for the laws of the Prophet."[5]

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/giorgia-meloni/msg15053/#msg15053

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/giorgia-meloni/msg15074/#msg15074
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 27, 2022, 05:49:42 pm
Again, Meloni is demonstrably not a fascist:

https://gatesofvienna.net/2022/10/giorgia-meloni-no-more-covid-shutdowns/

Contrast:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/trump-a-fascist/msg9608/#msg9608

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/trump-a-fascist/msg9864/#msg9864

Stop calling her what she is not! It just causes confusion!
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: rp on November 15, 2022, 10:42:47 pm
How is Donald Trump different from Hitler?
https://www.quora.com/How-is-Donald-Trump-different-from-Hitler

 https://www.quora.com/How-is-Donald-Trump-different-from-Hitler/answer/Vik-Rampersad?ch=15&oid=24526319&share=89acb57c&target_type=answer
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In many ways.
Hitler was a decorated war veteran who felt betrayed by the armistice and subsequent occupation and crushing of Germany (even though he was Austrian).

Trum never served, iand his country has never been occupied.

Hitler lived through the violent upheavals in Germany post WWI when the complete breakdown of law and order occurred and then the crushing poverty imposed by the allies (notably France). He blamed the Jewish banking interests for the economic turmoil that engulfed Germany and tapped into the pan European anti Semitism that was present to give a visible target of who was responsible for all the woes plaguing Germany
Trump lived through the Sept 11 attack. He inherited his wealth and made and lost several fortunes over his career. In effect he was "too big to fail" so the banks extended him credit and to his favour he always managed to come out on top. He uses the inherent racism in American society to attack Hispanics and more recently Moslems as those responsible for dragging down America.
Hitler was an accomplished orator who could speak (literally) for hours while holding his audience spellbound and enthralled
Trump is a loud and obnoxious speaker who loses his audience after maybe 20 minutes
Hitler was not shy about using force (Brownshirts) against his opponents and led an attempt to overthrow the government (Beer hall Pustch)
Trump has not used force against his opponents and has no private army

Hitler surrounded himself with people who were seen as responsible, heros and intelligent (e.g. Goering, Speer) He was virulently anti communist and extremely patriotic
Trump is an avowed capitalist and hence anti anything that smacks of communism or socialism. He is very anti union but contradictorily supports American workers trying to preserve their jobs
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: rp on November 15, 2022, 11:03:19 pm
Another anti-Hitlerist rebukes the Hitler Trump comparison:
Is Donald Trump more intelligent today than Adolf Hitler used to be?
https://www.quora.com/Is-Donald-Trump-more-intelligent-today-than-Adolf-Hitler-used-to-be/answer/Susanna-Viljanen?ch=15&oid=324901542&share=dbcd7ce2&target_type=answer
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No way.

Trump is no idiot - I estimate his IQ being 115–120, he has a university degree and he was not a total failure as a businessman - but he is no genius either. He is incredibly narcissistic - like South Park Eric Cartman grown old - which distorts the scene here.

But Trump is no genius either. He does not produce coherent text, he does not have any kind of intuition, he does not have any kind of psychologic eye and he cannot read his opponents. He does not know what he is up to nor against to. He does not care of his nation nor his country. He cares only of himself.

The only way such man in a leadership position can lead is by bullying his subordinates - which he actually did. “You’re fired” could actually be his slogan. He is simply so unpredictable that his opponents have hard time figuring out what he is up to next, and whether it is sheer idiocy, mere stupidity - or a genius stroke.

Hitler was evil but he wasn’t corrupt. He wouldn’t like being compared to someone who is corrupt - like Donald Trump. Moreover, Trump lived all his presidency on the verge of getting ousted - there were always a lot of more intelligent and more ambitious Republicans ready to backstab him, if for nothing else, to save the Grand Old Party from a total disaster.

Compared to Trump, my estimation is that Hitler had at least one standard deviation higher IQ. Hitler was a hallmark of a self-made man. He literally rose from the gutters to leadership of a superpower. He was an autodidact, he had incredibly wide general knowledge and he impressed everyone around him. He worked both hard and smart, he knew his opponents thoroughly, he read the newspapers thoroughly, he had a library of some 3,000 books and he was a decorated war veteran. And men like Göring, Himmler, Heydrich and Bormann considered him a genius. After the Night of the Long Knives, he did not need to resort to physical or social violence one single time.

But having high IQ does not make anyone a good human being nor it does not make him dignified, noble or decent. It is only the great enabler - both in good and in evil. Hitler was no moron - he was a crackpot. That is not what Trump is, fortunately. Trump is merely a jerk.

TL;DR: Hitler was Mensa stuff, but so was Ted Bundy. Trump isn’t.
Title: Republican Federal Judge Compares Trump to Nazis in January 6 Sentencing
Post by: NSFAN on November 21, 2022, 08:20:29 pm
Republican Federal Judge Compares Trump to Nazis in January 6 Sentencing
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A DC Federal Judge Reggie Walton sentenced January 6 Insurrectionist Dustin Thompson to 3 years in prison and had powerful words condemning Trump in his sentencing order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp1kn0gJBTI

Nothing quite says 'I'm an ignorant fool' like comparing Trump to National Socialists. After the failed Beer Hall Putsch, were Hitler lead from the front like a true leader and soldier—walking head-on into a hail of bullets in an attempt to pull it off— Hitler spent 5 years in prison himself. Trump has yet to even be convicted of a crime related to his failed coup attempt, whilst his supporters take on prison sentences for him...

(Have not listened to this video or read what the Federal Judge actually said).

Can anyone actually imagine Trump boldly walking into a hail of bullets, leading from the front?

(https://war-documentary.info/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/nazi-putsch-annual-1.jpg)

Unlike Trump, Hitler was a leftist, a true leader, and a real soldier!!! This is why people actually followed Hitler!
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: rp on December 03, 2022, 03:10:29 pm
Trump praises Xi, "President for life! Sounds like a good idea!"
https://youtu.be/09ZCJnf-qMw

Does this seem to indicate Trump has autocratic tendencies, given that he is willing to get rid of elections?
Title: Re: Trump a Fascist?
Post by: Billy Kid on December 03, 2022, 04:21:32 pm
As Retro has explained before, by protesting the results of the election Trump revealed he is a democrat, albeit a dishonest one. If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t have cared about the election results, and would’ve declared himself the rightful leader with or without the demos support. Protesting the results showed he only feels legitimised as a leader if the demos support him, while a true autocrat wouldn’t care what the demos wanted and would feel legitimised based on their character and ability. If Trump was an autocrat, he would’ve declared himself president for life when he had the chance, but he didn’t, which shows us he had no intention to and was just trying to encourage his supporters.

That isn’t to say, however, that there aren’t rightists who would use autocracy to get what they wanted, but that’s only until they exterminate us leftists. Traditionalists argue that women and non-whites should have never been given the right to vote; this tells us that they don’t have a problem with democracy itself, only with suffrage. Because democracy is the tyranny of the mob, and that tyranny is harder to enact when the people you want to tyrannise can vote against your tyranny.