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Title: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest5 on November 01, 2020, 12:53:24 am
http://www.inspiredbymuhammad.com/

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Social Justice

Society’s wellbeing was paramount to Muhammad who taught that all humans were entitled to the same rights and privileges. "People are as equal as the teeth of a comb," he said, and he practised what he preached.

Muhammad was a social activist of his time. He shook the underpinnings of the unjust society he lived in by bringing about social reforms: he forbade exploitation of the vulnerable, protected the poor by establishing regular charity; and crippled an arrogant class and race-based system by upholding equality.

Welfare and social solidarity are the basis for the progress of a nation. The Islamic civilisation pioneered the implementation of social welfare by establishing institutions to provide support to individuals in all levels of society in a trust system known as waqf. There were institutions for the disabled, the blind, and those in need who would find shelter, food, and education. There were also institutions for mothers of young children – one of Salahuddin’s (Saladin) greatest acts of philanthropy was the establishment of two reservoirs by the gate of his fort in Damascus – one of milk and one of fresh drinking water for the mothers to take freely.

Muhammad said: "The best people are those who are most useful to others" and today Muslims still aspire to that maxim through participating in social and community projects. From supporting the homeless in London to working with children with learning disabilities, British Muslims are actively involved in making their communities better for everyone.
http://www.inspiredbymuhammad.com/social_justice.php
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Women's Rights

The Quran states that men and women were created to be equal parts of a pair. Muhammad said that the rights of women are sacred and that they are the “twin halves of men”. Considering women in Britain received the right to vote, inherit and own property thirteen centuries later, Muhammad’s campaigns were both radical and revolutionary.

Muslim women gained full ownership over their money, while husbands had the responsibility to provide for them even if their wives were wealthier than them. Women had the right to divorce instantly on returning the dowry, something other religions don't allow. One duty enjoined upon them was that of education. Early Islamic history saw the establishment of Muslim women as scholars, politicians, businesswomen, jurists and doctors. Fatima al Firhi founded the first university in 859 in Fez, Morocco; Razia al Din ruled the Delhi Sultanate in India in 1236; Umm Darda, a scholar from Syria, taught imams, jurists and even had the 5th Umayyad caliph who ruled from Spain to India as her student. In fact some eight thousand accounts of Muslim female scholars have been documented, many of whom in addition to theology and jurisprudence, were skilled in calligraphy and philosophy, women who not only contributed to their society but actively shaped it.

The fruits of Muhammad’s reforms are as visible now as they have been throughout history. Today, Muslim women in Britain are achieving positions of status and respect as police officers, lawyers, entrepreneurs, medics, social activists, MPs and peers in the House of Lords. Remaining true to the ideals cemented 1,430 years ago, Muslim women were and still are role models for future generations.
http://www.inspiredbymuhammad.com/womens_rights.php

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Environment

Muhammad emphasised the Quranic decree of treating the earth as a trust, and humankind its guardians. Likening our planet to a sacred place of prayer, "All of the earth has been made to me as a mosque," Muhammad promoted respect and responsibility towards the environment amongst his companions. He encouraged water conservation, instructing them not to be wasteful even if they were next to a flowing river, and stipulated the importance of keeping public places tidy: "One of the branches of faith is to remove litter from the street," he said.

Today, we are encouraged to recycle, conserve, and care for the world around us. If Muhammad was here today, he would echo the same ecological concerns that he did over 1,430 years ago. Current ‘plant a tree’ campaigns sit well with Muhammad’s credentials. He organised the planting of trees and date groves, and turned forests into conservation areas called  ‘hima’ or sanctuaries for thriving ecosystems.

His example pioneered acts of environmentalism throughout history: Ottoman ministers advised sultans on both societal and environmental matters. An innovative engineer and architect living in the Ottoman Empire, Sinan, created a sixteenth century recycling method: the smoke choking out from a multitude of candles and oil lamps in the Suleymaniye Mosque in Istanbul was channelled into a separate chamber and the soot used as writing ink. In Islamic Spain, water conservation was routine, where rainwater would be collected from ceramic-tiled roofs and would pass though a system of pipes to underground cisterns for storage.

Muslims continue to follow Muhammad’s example in protecting the environment through projects like eco-mosques and organic farming and by supporting the development of climate policy, sustainable working and a greener Hajj.
http://www.inspiredbymuhammad.com/environment.php

Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest5 on March 05, 2021, 11:51:23 pm
Was Prophet Muhammad a ****?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-PEc3e69o

Short answer: no.

Rightists love slandering Muhammad and Muslims with this slander and defamation.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 06, 2021, 01:06:46 am
We sorted this out years ago:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/nopegida/comment-page-1/#comment-97323

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Mohammed, being honourable, viewed Aisha as an individual. You, being honourless, view Aisha as “a 9-year-old”. That alone shows who gets it and who doesn’t.
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Whoever is so intimidated by Islamophobes that they feel a need to debate Aisha’s age have already lost the argument, since it implies that Mohammed’s ethicality is contingent on Aisha’s age. We must represent the position that Mohammed was ethical irrespective of Aisha’s age, and that what is unethical is one age group telling another that their own wishes somehow don’t count.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 12, 2021, 09:43:35 pm
https://qz.com/1982825/when-did-islam-come-to-china/

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From written records and imperial edicts engraved on steles (standing stone slabs monuments) it is clear that these Islamic communities enjoyed the favor of the emperors—especially during the Tang (618-907 AD), Yuan (1271-1368), Ming (1368-1644) and Qing (1644-1912) dynasties. Islam was looked on favorably by the imperial court because of its ethics, which—as far as the emperors were concerned—promoted harmonious and peaceful relations between the diverse peoples in the imperial territories.
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Islam was considered by Christian missionaries in the country—and particularly by Russian scholars—as a growing threat. Islam was considered by many in the west to have the potential to become the national religion in China—which would have made China the biggest Islamic country in the world.
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Many of the mosques had affiliated schools teaching the Arabic language and Islamic writings to the children of the Muslim communities. Suzhou is one of the first cultural centers where Islamic scriptures were published in the Chinese language. Translations from Persian into Chinese were made by the 16th-century Suzhou scholars, Zhang Zhong and Zhou Shiqi, making the city an early hub of Islamic intellectual culture.

(When will China reconnect to this past and understand that Russia is its true enemy?)
Title: Re: Dietary decolonization
Post by: guest55 on October 04, 2021, 05:15:23 pm
A common misconception by Muslims is that only halal slaughtered meat is acceptable and that pork is never acceptable. In actuality Muhammad promoted veganism\vegetarianism. If Muslims truly want to follow in the footsteps of their prophet Muhammad they would not eat meat at all, or use diary products for that matter:

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The prophet Muhammad, however, was strongly against the frequent consumption of meat and, for his part, was said to subsist mainly on a diet of dates and barley. ... They encourage Muslims to try a vegan diet during Ramadan, making it a "Veganadan".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_and_religion

Is true Halal a vegan diet? Muslims should ask themselves this question....

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/inspired-by-muhammad/

Why Is Pork Forbidden?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI0ZUhBvIx4
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 04, 2021, 10:27:30 pm
Yes. As I have been arguing for a long time:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/nopegida/comment-page-3/#comment-98535

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since Mohammed also stated that all animals are Muslims by default, the correct interpretation of Islam forbids all animal exploitation. This is reinforced by the fact that vegan food is automatically Halal, whereas meat requires a ritual to make it artificially Halal, implying that meat is inherently Haraam but was only being temporarily permitted out of sheer victual necessity during wartime.

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/western-civilization-late-20th-century-pop-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-170063

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I have personally converted a number of individual Muslims to at least vegetarianism (and in some cases veganism) using solely Mohammedan arguments. For example, the simple fact that vegetables are automatically halal whereas meat etc. at best require a Basmala ritual to make it artificially halal is a strong argument that a superior Mohammedan diet is a meatless diet, and that the Basmala is best interpreted as a wartime compromise, especially when considering Mohammed’s otherwise numerous examples of kindness towards animals. Moreoever, I have argued that in modern society most Muslims who eat meat do not personally witness the Basmala, but rely on trust in halal food labelling. Therefore there always exists a possibility that the meat they are eating is not halal without them knowing so, and hence the only way they can be absolutely sure that they are eating halal is to refrain from meat altogether. In fact, I got along with my Muslim classmates when I was in school for the reason that both they and I ate the vegetarian option during school lunches (because back in those days a halal meat option was unavailable).

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/anti-zionist-harvest-2018/comment-page-1/#comment-178341

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My vision is on the distant horizon (our enemies doing our blogging for us):

http://gatesofvienna.net/2018/01/halal-vegan-same-thing/

Then some Koranist idiots say: "But what about Eid al-Adha?"

Answer: that was Abraham, not Mohammed!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/09/12/eid-al-adha-muslims/90261968/

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The ritual sacrifice of a goat, sheep, cow or camel represents the sacrifice of Abraham, says Imam Hammad Ahmad of Baitur Rahman mosque in Silver Spring, Maryland.
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But when Ghilan looks at the life of Muhammad, he finds a different story.
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“The Prophet would go a few months without eating meat — and then he ate meat when it was presented to him. He didn’t seek it out..”

That, he says, makes veganism an “imperative” for those following Muhammad’s message.

See also:

https://jamiaproject.wordpress.com/2017/03/16/from-whom-did-muhammad-proceed/

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    Has the story reached you, of the honoured guests of Ibrahim? When they came to him and said: ‘Salaam!’ he answered, ‘Salaam,’ and said, ‘You are people unknown to me.’ Then he turned to his household, and brought out a roasted calf. And placed it before them, saying, ‘Will you not eat?’ Then when they didn’t eat, he conceived fear about them. They said, ‘Fear not!’ And they gave him glad tidings of a son having knowledge of Allah. Then his wife came forward with a loud voice: she smote her face and said, ‘A barren old woman!’ They said, ‘Even so says your Lord. Verily, He is the All-Wise, the All-Knower.’ Ibrahim said, ‘Then for what purpose have you come, O Messengers?’ They said, ‘We have been sent to a people who are Mujrimun to send down upon them stones of baked clay, marked by your Lord for the Musrifun.’ (Adh-Dhariyat, 51:24-34)

Those who have read the Bible would be familiar with this story from Genesis, chapter 18, of the meeting of Yahweh and the Angels with Abraham to announce the coming birth of Isaac and also to converse with him about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. The familiar story of this Jewish patriarch rushing to serve the angels with the “fatted calf” has become the epitome of hospitality.

But constrast this “prophet of Yahweh” with the Message brought by the Prophet of Allah, Salih, to the people of Thamud:

    And to Thamud we sent their brother Salih. He said, ‘O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other god but Him. Indeed there has come to you a clear sign from your Lord. This she-camel of Allah is a sign to you; so you leave her to graze in Allah’s earth, and touch her not with harm, lest a painful torment seize you. And remember when He made you successors after Ad and gave you habitations in the land, you build for yourselves palaces in plains, and carve out homes in the mountains. So remember the graces from Allah, and do not go about making mischief in the earth.’

    The leaders of those who were arrogant among his people said to those who were counted weak – to such of them as believed: ‘Know you that Salih is one sent from his Lord.’ They said: ‘We indeed believe in that with which he has been sent.’ Those who were arrogant said: ‘Verily, we disbelieve in that which you believe in.’ So they killed the she-camel and insolently defied the Commandment of their Lord, and said, ‘Oh Salih! Bring about your threats if you are indeed one of the Messengers of Allah.’ So the earthquake seized them, and they lay dead, prostrate in their homes. Then Salih turned from them, and said: ‘O my people! I have indeed conveyed to you the message of my Lord, and have given you good advice but you like not good advisers.’ (Al-Araf, 7:73-79)


So the Message that Salih brought from Allah had a distinctive quality of universal compassion that the message of Yahweh that Ibrahim lived by was devoid of. One had no qualms to slaughter the fatted calf, whereas Salih protected the she-camel with threats of divine destruction. Now the most mysterious thing is that although traditionally Muhammad’s lineage is traced back to Ibrahim, it is through his son Isma’il, who is honoured as a Prophet of Allah, and not through Isaac (the Jewish patriarch from whom ultimately the tribes of Israel came), and Ismail’s mother was Hajar.

Islamic tales relate that Hajar came from a royal lineage that descended from Salih the Prophet, thus Isma’il and ultimately Muhammad came from the lineage of Salih, even though Isma’il’s father was Ibrahim.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on October 09, 2021, 10:06:13 am
The site makes heavy use of the Quran, which we know was corrupted by Uthman and co. Is there a substitute we can use? What about the hadiths?
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 09, 2021, 09:36:16 pm
"Is there a substitute we can use?"

I have been looking for someone to take over the Jamia project for many years. No one has stepped up.

"What about the hadiths?"

Everyone agrees that not all of them are authentic, but there is vast disagreement on which are the inauthentic ones. The Jamia would include a list of what we consider authentic.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest63 on December 17, 2021, 09:02:18 pm
"Is there a substitute we can use?"

I have been looking for someone to take over the Jamia project for many years. No one has stepped up.

"What about the hadiths?"

Everyone agrees that not all of them are authentic, but there is vast disagreement on which are the inauthentic ones. The Jamia would include a list of what we consider authentic.

1. Recently, one of my friends has found some books like this, such as that of the Light in the Heavens: Sayings of Prophet Muhammad by al-Qadi al-Qudai and The Book of Hadith: Sayings of the Prophet Muhammad from the Mishkat al Masabih by Charles Le Gai Eaton.

What are your thoughts on the modern Hadith collections like those listed above?

I wish I could step up but I am really busy right now with my life.

2. Yup, and a lot of the Hadith advocate circumcision, which is NOT from Muhammad, but from Abraham. Muhammad himself also did not prohibit children's dolls (including stuffed animals).

Compiling Muhammad's true Hadith shouldn't be too hard nor too time-consuming. We just have to put our minds to it.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on January 11, 2022, 01:15:23 pm
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I have been looking for someone to take over the Jamia project for many years. No one has stepped up.

So why don't you just do it yourself?
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest55 on January 11, 2022, 07:39:50 pm
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So why don't you just do it yourself?

Wouldn't it be best for an Aryanist who is a Mohammadan to do it?
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on January 15, 2022, 02:16:10 pm
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Wouldn't it be best for an Aryanist who is a Mohammadan to do it?

Aren't you guys Mohammedan?
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest55 on January 18, 2022, 03:02:39 pm
I am not, neither is 90SRF or Zea_Mays as far as I know....
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on January 18, 2022, 05:45:08 pm
I am not, neither is 90SRF or Zea_Mays as far as I know....

Strange. AS seems to know a lot about Muhammadanism.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest55 on January 18, 2022, 06:41:40 pm
I'd say he knows a lot about Marxism as well, this doesn't make him a Marxist either though.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on January 18, 2022, 08:28:52 pm
Touché.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on May 14, 2022, 06:23:17 pm
What do we tell the Zionists/Westerners when they spew bullshít about Islam being homo-/transphobic? I keep seeing hadith where Muslim clergymen condemn homosexuality.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest55 on May 14, 2022, 07:36:26 pm
Ask them to show you were Mohammad explicitly said anything about homosexuals, and then ask them if they really want to be a Muslim, or would they prefer to be a Jew?

The story of Sodom and Gomorrah are straight out of the Hebrew Bible after-all! Just one of many possible answers to your question....
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 14, 2022, 08:03:04 pm
"bullshít about Islam being homo-/transphobic?"

It is the fault of Western colonialism:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg7373/#msg7373

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam#Modern_era

   
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authors Lapidus and Salaymeh write that before the 19th century Ottoman society had been open and welcoming to homosexuals and that by the 1850s via European influence they began censoring homosexuality in their society.[20]
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    Klauda states that "Countless writers and artists such as André Gide, Oscar Wilde, Edward M. Forster, and Jean Genet made pilgrimages in the 19th and 20th centuries from homophobic Europe to Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, and various other Arab countries, where homosexual sex was not only met without any discrimination or subcultural ghettoization whatsoever, but rather, additionally as a result of rigid segregation of the sexes, seemed to be available on every corner."[120]
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    Tilo Beckers writes that "Besides the endogenous changes in the interpretation of scriptures having a deliberalizing influence that came from within Islamic cultures, the rejection of homosexuality in Islam gained momentum through the exogenous effects of European colonialism, that is, the import of Western cultural understandings of homosexuality as a perversion."[17]
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    the current prejudice against it among Muslim publics stems from an amalgamation of traditional Islamic legal theory with popular notions that were imported from Europe during the colonial era, when Western military and economic superiority made Western notions of sexuality particularly influential in the Muslim world."[122]

    In some Muslim-majority countries, current anti-LGBT laws were enacted by United Kingdom or Soviet organs and retained following independence.[18][19]
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    The Ottoman Sultanic law (qanun) tended to equalize the treatment of hetero- and homosexuals. Dream interpretation literature accepted homosexuality as natural, and karagoz, the principal character of popular puppet theater, engaged in both active and passive gay sex. However, in the 19th century, Ottoman society started to be influenced by European ideas about sexuality as well as the criticism leveled at the Ottoman society by European authors for its sexual and gender norms, including homosexuality. This criticism associated the weakness of the Ottoman state and corruption of the Ottoman government with Ottoman sexual corruption. By the 1850s, these ideas were prompting embarrassment and self-censorship among the Ottoman public regarding traditional attitudes toward sex in general and homosexuality in particular. Dream interpretation literature declined, the puppet theater was purged of its coarser elements, and homoeroticism began to be regarded as abnormal and shameful.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on May 21, 2022, 06:18:02 pm
We sorted this out years ago:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/nopegida/comment-page-1/#comment-97323

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Mohammed, being honourable, viewed Aisha as an individual. You, being honourless, view Aisha as “a 9-year-old”. That alone shows who gets it and who doesn’t.
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Whoever is so intimidated by Islamophobes that they feel a need to debate Aisha’s age have already lost the argument, since it implies that Mohammed’s ethicality is contingent on Aisha’s age. We must represent the position that Mohammed was ethical irrespective of Aisha’s age, and that what is unethical is one age group telling another that their own wishes somehow don’t count.
That's a non-answer. You didn't conclusively confirm or deny that Muhammad had sex with Aisha when she was a child. I personally don't think he did, but I think you should make a definitive statement to avoid enemies of the movement gaining any advantages.
Title: Re: Homophobia is not American
Post by: christianbethel on May 21, 2022, 06:28:17 pm
You should also know that during WWII Britain and Russia invaded and occupied Iran, which probably explains why homosexuality is a capital offense there.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 21, 2022, 08:30:50 pm
"You didn't conclusively confirm or deny that Muhammad had sex with Aisha when she was a child."

Why would I need to?

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We must represent the position that Mohammed was ethical irrespective of Aisha’s age, and that what is unethical is one age group telling another that their own wishes somehow don’t count.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on May 22, 2022, 11:24:07 am
OK, I see where you're coming from, but non-Aryanists are cunning and manipulative. The American Miranda Rights, for example, explicitly state 'anything you say can and will be against you in a court of law', and I'm sure otger countries have something similar. 'Raceless' individuals aren't attuned to the vestiges of Aryan blood they possess (if any), so they will not consider this question the same way you do. I would communicate your assertions about Muhammad's relationship with Aisha clearly and concisely.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest55 on May 22, 2022, 01:04:24 pm
Reminder: Our enemies have already moved beyond debate a long time ago.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/red-coup/
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/rightist-mass-shootings/
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/military-subverters/
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/state-subverters/
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/police-rightist-bias/
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/voter-suppression/
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/re-duginism-1134/

PARIS - Why Reconcile (Official Audio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9ZANhU3RgQ

Paris - Pistol Politics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ipY4QirDL0

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/firearms/

The point is not to change our enemies minds, which is impossible to do at this point, because if it was Trumpism would not still be on the rise in the U.S. as an example, would it? The point is to change False-Leftist minds. Most False-Leftists do not view Mohammed negatively. Religious tolerance is a False-Leftist trope after-all. Which ultimately means, even if it could be proven that Mohammed was a child-rapist false-leftists would not have anything negative to say about it. This is also why False-Leftists do not judge Judaism as harshly as it deserves either, correct?

Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 23, 2022, 01:31:54 am
The most common False Left approach I have seen to defend Mohammed is to patronizingly say that he was a person of his time and therefore cannot be faulted for behaviour that modern people behaving the same way can be faulted for. This is a progressive attitude, implying that ancient people in general were morally inferior to modern people in general, and that it is not their fault for being born in that earlier and hence less developed era. In short, False Leftists consider Mohammed as an individual to be superior to most ancient people, but inferior to even the average modern person. This is how strongly they believe in progressivism.

True Leftists, in contrast, consider people in ancient times on average superior to people today, and Mohammed as an individual to be far superior to almost everyone alive today:

(https://maldivianapostates.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/tumblr_lkoeoeedpc1qjc9fqo1_1280.png)

This single action by Mohammed is more valuable than the sum of everything produced in the so-called "Enlightenment" that the False Left is so proud of (which was in fact so inferior that it never even questioned anthropocentrism, but if anything further reinforced it!).
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on May 29, 2022, 11:58:13 am
Blair Imani Speaking on LGBTIism in Islam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IhaGUlmO_k
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on June 01, 2022, 11:16:22 am
Is Islam compatible with antinatalism? I've seen many sources which state Muslims are regularly encouraged to reproduce.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 01, 2022, 08:23:50 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgement_Day_in_Islam

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To save believers from these horrors, the Mahdi will appear and Isa bin Maryam (Jesus) will descend from heaven to assist him. The sun will rise from the west.[Note 4][37] A breeze will blow causing all believers to inhale it and die peacefully.[Note 5][38]

Destruction and resurrection
Following these portents, the Earth will be destroyed. (In Surah Al Haqqah)

When the trumpet is blown with a single blast
and the earth and the mountains are lifted up and crushed with a single blow,
then, on that day, the terror shall come to pass,
and heaven shall be split, for upon that day it shall be very frail. ... "

(Q.69:13–16)[Note 6][9]

Verses from another Surah (At-Takwir) describes

When the sun shall be darkened
When the stars shall be thrown down
When the seas shall be set boiling
When the souls shall be coupled, ...
When the scrolls shall be unrolled
When heavens shall be stripped off,
When Hell shall be set blazing,
When Paradise shall be brought nigh
Then shall a soul know what it has produced.

(Q.81:1,2,6,7,10-14)[Note 7][9]

A second trumpet blast will signal a "final cataclysm" (fanāʼ), the extinction of all living creatures

Antinatalism is the part in bold.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on June 01, 2022, 08:40:48 pm
The believers know there will be a deadly breeze, yet they still reproduce? Perhaps they misinterpet the ayah which states this. I've seen several ayat in the second and third surahs which condemn existence in the material universe and praise life in the Hereafter, but haven't seen any explicit rejection of natalism. Why is this?
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 01, 2022, 08:58:45 pm
No, the ideology of antinatalism is the breeze.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on June 02, 2022, 09:57:38 am
How so? Millions of Muslims still reproduce.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 02, 2022, 01:13:59 pm
Not all Muslims are believers (Mumins).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumin#Difference_between_Muslim_and_Mu%CA%BEmin

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the following verse makes a distinction between a Muslim and a believer:[citation needed]

(Al-Hujurat 49:14) The Arabs of the desert say, "We believe." (tu/minoo) Say thou: Ye believe not; but rather say, "We profess Islam;" (aslamna) for the faith (al-imanu) hath not yet found its way into your hearts.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on June 02, 2022, 09:31:20 pm
Ah. Muslims, then Mumins, then Musins.

I also asked a Muslim about the term 'Muhammadanism' and she said it was forbidden in Islam because it promotes idolatry. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 02, 2022, 10:26:35 pm
The Muslim you asked is illiterate. Mohammed himself stated that he was merely re-teaching what earlier true prophets (e.g. Jesus) had taught before but which was distorted after their deaths. Therefore, the followers of the pre-distortion teachings of earlier true prophets were also Muslims. Mohammedans refer to those who became Muslims because of Mohammed's influence.


Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: christianbethel on June 03, 2022, 10:46:12 am
I also heard that Ali said that the Uthmanic codex was correct with 'minor errors'. Only a Sunni/Judeo-Islamist would believe such lies.
Title: Re: Drafting up a Jamia
Post by: guest63 on June 24, 2022, 01:38:26 pm
This is a little off-topic, but how should prayer be done in Mohammedanism?

One of my friends who is a Muslim mixes simple Christian prayers with a few Mohammedan prayers, such as saying the Takbir in the beginning and reciting Surah al-Fatihah before requesting anything from Allah SWT. He does ablution when necessary but not always.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 24, 2022, 02:38:17 pm
https://www.soundvision.com/article/children-in-the-masjid-making-space-for-our-future

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Imagine a Masjid where the Imam pauses during Salah and the entire congregation waits so a toddler can finish his game. Imagine a Masjid where an Imam leads Salah while he holds a child in his arms. Imagine a Masjid where the cry of a baby changes the Imam’s intention and shortens the prayer for the entire congregation.

This was the Masjid of the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him.
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The Messenger of Allah came out to us for one of the two later prayers [Thuhr Asr], carrying Hasan or Hussein. The Prophet then came to the front and put him down, said Takbir for the prayer and commenced praying. During the prayer, he performed a very long prostration, so I raised my head and there was the child, on the back of the Messenger of Allah, who was in prostration. I then returned to my prostration. When the Messenger of Allah had offered the prayer, the people said: “O Messenger of Allah! In the middle of your prayer, you performed prostration and lengthened it so much that we thought either something had happened or that you were receiving revelation!” He said: “Neither was the case. Actually, my grandson made me his mount, and I did not want to hurry him until he had satisfied his wish" (Reported by Nasaa'i, Ibn Asaakir, and Haakim).

The Messenger of Allah would pray holding Umaamah bint Zaynab bint Rasoolillaah.   He would put her down when he prostrated, and then pick her up again when he stood up (Reported by Bukhari and Muslim)

The Prophet said: “When I stand for prayer, I intend to prolong it, but on hearing the cries of a child, I cut it short, as I dislike to trouble the child's mother" (Reported by Bukhari).


These scenarios illustrate how natural it was for babies, toddlers, and children to be part of the Prophet’s Masjid. They show us that the Prophet understood the nature of children and cared for their needs and comfort in the mosque.

Do we witness these scenarios in our Masjids today? We see a child grabbed and told to “sit down and be quiet!” because he was running between the rows. Or we hear “sister, can you please go outside” because her baby is crying. Or we read signs that say “No children in Masjid area”.
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Children running in the hallway or playing basketball in the parking lot are not signs of a rowdy Masjid or misbehaving children.
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This is the nature that Allah created in children - they overflow with energy and enthusiasm
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Here is an example of how the Prophet dealt with Anas bin Malik, who served him as a boy:

    The Prophet sent Anas on an errand and Anas reported that “I went until I came upon children playing in the street. Then the Messenger of Allah arrived and he caught me by the back of my neck from behind. As I looked at him, I found him smiling, and he said, “Unays (Anas’s nickname), did you go where I ordered you to go?” I said, “O Messenger of Allah, yes, I am going.” Anas said further, “I served him for nine years, but I do not know that he ever said to me about anything I did, ‘why I did that, or about anything I had neglected, why I had not done that” (Reported by Muslim).

The Prophet did not scold Anas for forgetting his errand or for anything else in nine years.
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Allah does not punish children for their misbehavior but Allah does hold us accountable for how we treat children.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: SirGalahad on June 24, 2022, 09:58:49 pm
@90sRetroFan That's actually a beautiful recount. And it's in stark contrast to how children are typically treated during most church services in mainstream Judeo-Christian sects. I can't comment on any stereotypes of Islamic services since I was not raised Muslim and did not grow up in a predominantly Muslim country, but I DO know that it's basically a stereotype at this point, for Christian church services to be practically unbearable for children, and many of them have to be forced to go. If you aren't inspiring the children, who naturally love to dream and are far more idealistic and romantically inclined than adults, then something's wrong with how you conduct things. May God be pleased with Mohammed
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest98 on January 29, 2023, 03:17:07 pm
Islam has been greatly corrupted due to the adoption of the evil Judaic practice of circumcision. Circumcision adds a 'layer of Judea' that cannot be purified/overcome because it is a physical mutilation.

I wish I wasn't circumcised, it has probably destroyed a lot of my original childhood sensitivity. Circumcision needs to be banned everywhere, any parents caught trying to circumcise their child should be executed.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: SirGalahad on January 29, 2023, 04:10:36 pm
Islamic circumcision seems more ethical to me, because as far as I know, it’s not really a tradition to circumcise the child immediately after birth, like it is for westerners. The child could be circumcised at 7, or even at puberty. As long as the child is given some semblance of autonomy in the decision, I don’t find it necessarily unethical, even though I’d argue less emphasis should be placed on the practice, since it originated from Judaism

But I definitely agree that circumcising someone who isn’t even old enough to at least verbally consent to it, should be a crime. It almost happened to me when I was born, but the doctor my mom trusted wasn’t there
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest98 on January 30, 2023, 11:56:20 am
I was circumcised as a baby, i know some muslim's who were circumcised at around 7 but as far as i know they weren't given a choice as to whether they wanted to or not, i guess different cultures have different traditions. At least when your a baby you don't remember the procedure and the pain, it must be very traumatic to go through as a 7 year old no matter what b.s your parents say to appease and delude you.

Nonetheless circumcision should have never been invented, i guess i have to thank the "prophet" abraham and his sick mind for coming up with this sh_t.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 30, 2023, 03:59:40 pm
"At least when your a baby you don't remember the procedure and the pain"

This reasoning is ignoble. This is no different than saying: "If it's someone from the outgroup feeling the pain, I don't care." You have turned your earlier self into part of the outgroup.

The reason you today do not remember the pain is because you have lost that part of your Original Nobility. You should be trying to get it back (even if it includes the memory of the pain), instead of thinking it is fortunate that you have forgotten it. To care for someone is to share their pain. Show your earlier self that you still care about them!
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: guest98 on January 30, 2023, 05:24:34 pm
It's only recently that I've been dealing with the harsh reality of circumcision and how less jewish on average man would have been if it had never existed. So this could be the beginning of me recovering that lost part of my original nobility.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: 2ThaSun on June 11, 2023, 05:32:56 pm
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Sufism (Arabic: الصُّوفِيَّة‎ aṣ-ṣūfiyya), also known as Tasawwuf[1] (التَّصَوُّف‎ at-taṣawwuf), is a mystic body of religious practice found within Islam which is characterized by a focus on Islamic purification, spirituality, ritualism, asceticism and esotericism.[2][3][4][5][6] It has been variously defined as "Islamic mysticism",[7][8][9] "the mystical expression of Islamic faith",[10] "the inward dimension of Islam",[11][12] "the phenomenon of mysticism within Islam",[13][14] the "main manifestation and the most important and central crystallization" of mystical practice in Islam,[15][16] and "the interiorization and intensification of Islamic faith and practice".[17]

Practitioners of Sufism are referred to as "Sufis" (from صُوفِيّ, ṣūfīy),[13] and historically typically belonged to "orders" known as tariqa (pl. ṭuruq) – congregations formed around a grand wali who would be the last in a chain of successive teachers linking back to Muhammad, with the goal of undergoing Tazkiah (self purification) and the hope of reaching Ihsan.[18][19] The ultimate aim of Sufis is to seek the pleasure of God by endeavoring to return to their original state of purity and natural disposition, known as fitra.[20]

Sufism emerged early on in Islamic history,[13] partly as a reaction against the worldliness of the early Umayyad Caliphate (661–750) and mainly under the tutelage of Hasan Al-Basri.[21] Although Sufis were opposed to dry legalism, they strictly observed Islamic law and belonged to various schools of Islamic jurisprudence and theology.[22] Although the majority of Sufis, both pre-modern and modern, remain adherents of Sunni Islam, certain strands of Sufi thought transferred over to the ambits of Shia Islam during the late medieval period.[23] This particularly happened after the Safavid conversion of Iran under the concept of Irfan.[23] Important focuses of Sufi worship include dhikr, the practice of remembrance of God.[24] Sufis also played an important role in spreading Islam through their missionary and educational activities.[22]

Despite a relative decline of Sufi orders in the modern era and attacks from revivalist Islamic movement (such as the Salafis and Wahhabis), Sufism has continued to play an important role in the Islamic world, especially in the neo-traditionalist strand of Sunni Islam.[25][26] It has also influenced various forms of spirituality in the West and generated lots of academic interest...[27][28][29]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism

SUFISM and UNIVERSAL SPIRITUALITY
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Hello there! In this YouTube video, we embark on a profound journey of exploration between sufism  and Universal Spirituality. Titled "Sufism and Universal Spirituality," this video emphasizes the unique connection between Sufism and the universal understanding of the spiritual realm. We delve into the depths of Sufism, a mystical path that revolves around love, faith, and devotion, while also discovering the transcendent nature of Universal Spirituality beyond the boundaries of any particular religion. Throughout this enchanting experience, we will delve into the profound impact of Mevlana Jalaluddin Rumi on Sufism, immerse ourselves in the power of Sufi music and rituals, explore the captivating world of Sufi literature and poetry, and gain insights into the guiding role of Sufi teachers and orders. Furthermore, we will explore the connections between Sufism and the modern world, examine the contemporary relevance and significance of Sufism, and address prevalent misconceptions and prejudices towards this spiritual path. Join us on this captivating journey, accompanied by mesmerizing Sufi music, as we celebrate the profound connection between Sufism and Universal Spirituality.


00:00 Intro
02:30 What is Sufism?
03:39 Sufi Teachings: Love, Faith, and Devotion
05:00 The Sufi Path and the Basic Principles of Tasawwuf
06:28 The History and Origins of Sufism
08:05 Mevlana Jalaluddin Rumi and Sufism
09:40 Sufi Music and Rituals
11:00 The Relationship between Sufism and Islam
12:38 The Relationship between Sufism and Other Religions
14:30  Sufi Literature and Poetry
16:32 Sufi Teachers and Orders
18:25 The Connection between Sufism and the Modern World
20:32 The Role and Importance of Sufism Today
23:04 Misconceptions and Prejudices towards Sufism
26:14 Outro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbJ_SeT9Dok
Title: Re: Islamic Golden Age - Philosophy and Humanities
Post by: rp on November 09, 2023, 06:01:34 pm
https://youtu.be/TDkIKeINPZE
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: seal of the prophets on November 12, 2023, 06:56:10 am
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Muhammad

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Muhammad: I have been given superiority over the other prophets in six respects: I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me: the earth has been made for me clean and a place of worship; I have been sent to all mankind and the line of prophets is closed with me.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: beautify on November 12, 2023, 12:02:20 pm
I'll beautify all of you women.
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: rp on January 04, 2024, 03:17:01 am
https://www.newdelhitimes.com/what-the-great-sufi-mystic-rumi-wrote-on-vegetarianism/
Title: Re: Inspired by Muhammad
Post by: The heart on January 31, 2024, 03:31:54 pm
The evil powers desire to sow the seeds of evil, darkness, and division in the hearts of mankind. You should guard against this by prostrating yourselves to God, so that he can purify your hearts and keep them good and at peace.