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Title: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 16, 2020, 01:49:31 am
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I was meaning to start a topic about this for a while, but delayed. Then I just came across this story:

www.cp24.com/news/watch-cut-off-turban-to-look-like-a-canadian-racist-man-tells-singh-1.4620893

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Singh is a practising Sikh who wears a turban.

It was the turban that prompted a man to confront Singh as he walked through Montreal's Atwater market this morning.

The man told Singh he should cut his turban off so he would “look like a Canadian.”

Singh replied that Canadians look like all kinds of people and that's the beauty of the country.

The older man was undaunted, telling Singh that “in Rome you do what the Romans do.”

If so, then the bigot should be wearing this in Canada:

(https://www.museevirtuel.ca/media/edu/EN/uploads/image/L2D36416348355143567761.jpg)

But he does not, and we all know why not.

Eurocentrism in dress codes needs to go. For example, here is Akihito Yamato with Elizabeth Windsor (incoming humiliation alert!):

(https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/akihito_photo_22.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=450&h=318&crop=1)

Can you imagine Elizabeth wearing Japanese formal wear to meet Akihito? Neither can I. And that's the point. There is no sovereign parity here. The clothes alone tell the whole watching world who is the colonizer and who has been colonized.

(In fact Elizabeth did visit Japan:

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/25/590x/secondary/Queen-Elizabeth-Royal-visit-Japan-1975-1450911.jpg?r=1534148325672)

Not only did she obviously not wear Japanese formal wear, but ironically you cannot even tell from the photo that she is in Japan due to the wholly Western architecture in the background.)

In contrast, here is an example of how a decolonized head of state dresses when meeting Western heads of state (watch and learn!):

(https://resize.indiatvnews.com/en/centered/oldbucket/715_431/maininternational/IndiaTv95be3b_LibyaPutin.jpg)

(https://static.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20071210&t=2&i=2440097&r=2007-12-10T173757Z_01_L10689903_RTRUKOP_0_PICTURE0&w=800)

This is what it means to have national pride. This is also why they killed him and installed (sartorial Eurocentrist) Sarraj in Libya instead:

(https://cdn1.opensecrets.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/19131101/Donald-Trump-greets-Prime-Minister-Fayez-al-Sarraj-of-Libya.jpg)

The issue is not just about heads of state. All anti-Westerners should make a point of disdaining Western dress codes at every suitable opportunity:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_dress_codes

(Counterculture fashion is fine, of course.)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27PnUuXR_A

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What we are promoting here is a cultural shift. Indeed, to the extent that politics is downstream from culture, political stances will be more convincing when matched by cultural symbolism. It would look rather absurd and self-contradictory if an anti-Zionist wore a kippah/tallit/etc. while criticizing Israel. Similarly, anyone wishing to present a consistent anti-Western image must sooner or later ditch Western dress codes.

(Moreover, wearing a Western suit (which was designed with a cold habitat in mind) in tropical locations is just imbecilic. Yet the fact that so many people today are willing to endure the extreme thermal impracticality of such an outfit in their regions just to look more like their former colonizers is a good indication the extent of their West-worship.)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 16, 2020, 02:03:19 am
https://www.thelily.com/cori-bush-said-shopping-for-congress-is-too-expensive-members-of-the-squad-had-tips/

(https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/cwkBbZAHLbwL7qSrblAHY8Buh6k=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-thelily-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/OZQJMDKORREMPNUBGKCTIP5AAY.jpg)

The question I want to ask is: why should politicians wear business clothes? Politics is not business. Politics is statism. Throughout the pre-colonial non-Western world, people in government did not dress like businesspeople (and would have been aghast at the very suggestion of doing so) because they trivially understood the above. Only from the colonial-era onwards (when the colonialist East/West India Company owners, who were businesspeople, were the true overlords of the colonies which they exploited for profit as businesspeople would) did it become fashionable for their local puppets to dress like them also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company_(disambiguation)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_India_Company

Therefore to continue to do so is to continue to symbolically affirm colonialism. True Leftist Gaddafi understood this (see pictures above). Similarly, I hope to see Bush (and the rest of the Squad, and eventually all Blue politicians) working for America in non-business outfits in future.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Prite on November 16, 2020, 07:20:26 am
I see that Assad and Erdogan still wear western suits.

The humourous thing is UAE and Bahrain leaders wear their owned.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 16, 2020, 10:44:33 pm
"I see that Assad and Erdogan still wear western suits."

They too are Eurocentrists. And that is why they are not nearly as inspiring leaders as they could be. And I will keep criticizing them (and Xi too) for this. We already went through this on the old forum, you moron, so stop wasting our time.

Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 15, 2021, 11:13:57 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgias-first-vietnamese-american-state-172614464.html

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/p6JI2645IDyZIShuUKS3lA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTM3MTtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/nextshark_articles_509/6a5d45ce4cf6fab9d76f16301091f846)

OK, so what's with your Eurocentrically dyed hair?

(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 16, 2021, 11:17:29 pm
At least awareness of the issue is now going mainstream:

https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/kamala-harris-sari-inauguration/index.html

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the prospect of the nation's first Black and South Asian Vice President wearing a traditional sari at any of the inauguration events -- even if the celebrations are largely virtual -- has offered a glimmer of positivity amid the tumult.

The question has been posed to Harris before -- during her own presidential campaign in 2019. At an event hosted by Asian American group, One APIA Nevada, an audience member lightheartedly asked Harris if she would commit to wearing the traditional Indian garment to her inauguration if she were elected president.
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"I wouldn't be surprised if we see her show up to the inauguration ball in a beautifully woven Banarsi sari," fashion designer Bibhu Mohapatra said in a phone interview from Brunswick, Georgia. "I think she understands the power of that image."
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With the incoming administration facing the Herculean task of unifying the country, Harris could use the garment as a healing gesture, Mohapatra said.
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The photo of a youthful, smiling Harris in a sari was, to many, inspiring. An image of her in a sari on inauguration day could be groundbreaking.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 24, 2021, 02:57:35 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK4DDZGeRvA

Note especially 2:40-2:52. When you superpose non-Western clothes onto Western architecture, it creates an aesthetical clash, which then sends the tacit message that the Western architecture should not even be there (as indeed it should not!). This is the propaganda power of clothing.

Hopefully one day we can demolish the current ugly House Chamber and replace it with something that goes better with Haswood's clothes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_pueblitos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 10, 2021, 12:00:11 am
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/436073/rawiri-waititi-ejected-from-parliament-for-not-wearing-a-tie

(https://www.rnz.co.nz/assets/news/255093/eight_col_Rawiri_1610.jpg?1612838358)

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Rawiri Waititi ejected from Parliament for not wearing a tie
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On the first sitting day of 2021 today, Waititi arrived without a tie. He argued that he was wearing Māori business attire with a taonga around his neck, but Mallard said he was not convinced by that argument.

"I am therefore going to indicate to the leader of Te Pati Māori that I will not be calling him while he is not wearing a tie and he is not to enter the house again not wearing a tie," Mallard said.
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"That is not part of my culture, ties, and it's forcing the indigenous peoples into wearing what I describe as a colonial noose," Waititi said.

I like the term "colonial noose". We should use it more.

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"I will not be forced to be wearing anything that I shouldn't be wearing… Why are Pākehā making Māori dress like they want us to dress?"

The enforced dress code is hypocritical and an example colonial ways that suppress tangata whenua, he said.

"Parliament should be a place where we could freely practice our democracy and represent the people that voted us in.

But if you are able to reject ties as a Pakeha incursion, why do you not also reject democracy as a Pakeha incursion?

(And what's with the Pakeha blazer? At least wear something without a lapel!)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 11, 2021, 10:51:56 pm
Victory!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-zealands-parliament-drops-tie-rule-after-maori-lawmaker-rawiri-waititi-ejected-11612963959

Sometimes it just takes one person to take a stand.

Of course, it helps when the PM is also known for wearing local outfits:

(https://d3pbdxdl8c65wb.cloudfront.net/cloudinary/2021/Feb/01/nhLzSbi7x4JJj6pyw4cq.jpg)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: guest5 on February 11, 2021, 10:56:25 pm
Good people really don't have any difficulty being decent and doing the right thing do they? It's simple and easy to them. What does this say about the rest of humanity?

Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 28, 2021, 10:58:33 pm
On a different note:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/us/army-haircut-women-grooming-standard.html

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Capt. Jawana McFadden said that wearing her hair in a bun pushed her helmet forward over her eyes.
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The latest update to the Army’s uniform and grooming regulations, which takes effect on Friday, offers several revisions that give the 127,000 women serving in the Army and National Guard a chance to finally let their hair down — at least a bit.

For the first time, women will be allowed to have buzz cuts.

Before reading this, I naively assumed that female soldiers had always been allowed to have buzz cuts. If buzz cuts are considered the most practical hairstyle for male soldiers, why not for female soldiers also? Yet again it turns out that I am still underestimating just how obsessed with sexual dimorphism Western civilization is. Absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 06, 2021, 10:51:15 pm
Eurocentrists wasting cloth to promote Eurocentrism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5x9aAvfVYA

Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 10, 2021, 01:50:47 am
This guy gets it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVvsPjhAstU
Title: Re: Media decolonization
Post by: acc9 on April 02, 2021, 02:59:21 am


https://kotaku.com/italian-fashion-brand-called-disrespectful-of-japanese-1846580262

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_965/m5fzbz4r42knplxxcnqk.jpg)


It seems the white supremacist complex in the western mind is now spilling over into their art and design. Whether it is intentional or inadvertent, the trampling of the Japanese kimono sash (a culture symbol of Japanese traditional attire) can definitely be interpreted as an insult or more - the message alluding to Japan's very own 'trashed and trampled' culture in face of the western one that is arching over it.

In comparison with the infamous Dolce & Gabbana advertisement a couple of years ago that derided the Chinese stereotype, this one goes much deeper as it impacts a time-honored tradition that holds respect and dear in the hearts of the Japanese people, hence much more offensive.

 




Title: Re: Re: Media decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 02, 2021, 06:06:03 am
"In comparison with the infamous Dolce & Gabbana advertisement a couple of years ago that derided the Chinese stereotype, this one goes much deeper as it impacts a time-honored tradition that holds respect and dear in the hearts of the Japanese people, hence much more offensive."

I agree. What is going on in the photoshoot is a microcosm of colonialism: the colonized are given table scraps in return for degrading their own non-Western culture while comporting themselves according to Western standards in order to serve the colonizer who is the true profiteer.

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Italian brand Valentino

BOYCOTT VALENTINO! (And of course continue to boycott Dolce & Gabbana!)

What makes it even worse is that the model is the daughter of one of Japan's Counterculture leaders (incoming Aryan phenotype alert!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9H6gmwJ5kU

Also note Kudo's crushing superiority over her daughter when she was the same age her daughter is now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBkgnJdXCFo
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Killthebank on April 07, 2021, 09:19:54 pm
This isn't about decolonization but it's funny because a certain group got triggered.

https://www.newsrael.com/post/-MXTjqlultwWM1Znv_mp

Anybody going to wear that shirt while walking around Queens?
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: guest5 on April 16, 2021, 01:20:54 am
Young people in China want traditional non-Western Han clothing back in fashion
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Across China, some young people are switching from jeans and T-shirts to long dresses, silky robes and black hats.

They’re not cosplayers or period drama actors, but rather members of a booming movement to turn Hanfu, or ethnic Han clothing, into everyday wear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cip9DA1UvHk

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Dave102693
1 year ago
Traditional clothing needs come back to the whole world.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 16, 2021, 03:17:23 am
"Young people in China want traditional non-Western Han clothing back in fashion"

It seems like they are more anti-Manchurian than anti-Western. Their main aim seems to be to emphasize that Han people shouldn't wear Qing clothes, rather than to reject Western aesthetics.

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Across China, some young people are switching from jeans and T-shirts to long dresses, silky robes and black hats.

Jeans and T-shirts are Counterculture clothes, not Western clothes. In particular, the T-shirt being collarless and cuffless:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/Ringer_t-shirt.png)

is actually closer to Qing style:

https://img9.doubanio.com/view/photo/l/public/p2585786663.webp

than to Western style which is defined by collars and cuffs:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/07/7e/1b077ea03525b03cc261bced7202278c.jpg)

originating from this ****:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Anton_van_Dyck_-_The_Cardinal-Infante_Fernando_de_Austria.jpg/592px-Anton_van_Dyck_-_The_Cardinal-Infante_Fernando_de_Austria.jpg)

But if these people are actually motivated by dislike for Qing style, then it is no surprise they would reject T-shirts (which have similar geometry) also.

So while I would support the movement in principle, in practice I am not optimistic. Not least because I have already noticed Chinese Eurocentrist filmmakers trying to sneak in Western sartorial elements and passing them off as "Han":

(https://trueleft.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.sinaimg.cn%2Fent%2Fv%2Fp%2F2011-08-13%2FU5913P28T3D3385860F346DT20110813103542.JPG&hash=1a7eac4aa75091b66688fbef5de91b4082e0fa14)

(https://pic.rmb.bdstatic.com/af1b7e00e86901c57fd94d8088bfd9af.jpeg)

(https://trueleft.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotocdn.sohu.com%2F20110730%2FImg314975230.jpg&hash=23c3fbeac9497c64435e4446a4b475bc78ee67e1)

(https://ss1.bdstatic.com/70cFuXSh_Q1YnxGkpoWK1HF6hhy/it/u=708224377,4075537136&fm=26&gp=0.jpg)

(https://trueleft.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1.sinaimg.cn%2Fent%2Fv%2Fp%2F2011-08-13%2FU5913P28T3D3385855F346DT20110813103518.jpg&hash=617d5efebd90187e2676d84baad77954b96545ff)

Of course lapels are also Western:

(https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/PJ-BO110_LAPELS_G_20130502143606.jpg)

as are epaulettes:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61UEfNfxHDL._AC_SL1000_.jpg)

Still think I'm exaggerating about how bad Eurocentrism is?
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on April 16, 2021, 10:49:40 am
"Jeans and T-shirts are Counterculture clothes, not Western clothes."

But jeans were invented by the Jew Levi Strauss though.. and you pointed this out:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg5549/#msg5549
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 16, 2021, 10:16:16 pm
Yes, but jeans did not become fashionable until associated with Counterculture:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeans#20th_century_evolution

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After James Dean popularized them in the movie Rebel Without a Cause, wearing jeans became a symbol of youth rebellion during the 1950s.[23][24] During the 1960s the wearing of jeans became more acceptable, and by the 1970s it had become general fashion in the United States for casual wear.[25] In Japan in 1977, a professor of Osaka University Philip Karl Pehda chastised a female student wearing jeans in the classroom. Then he was protested by the students, and a controversy arose in the country.[26][27]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dean#Legacy_and_iconic_status

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Numerous commentators have asserted that Dean had a singular influence on the development of rock and roll music. According to David R. Shumway, a researcher in American culture and cultural theory at Carnegie Mellon University, Dean was the first iconic figure of youthful rebellion and "a harbinger of youth-identity politics". The persona Dean projected in his movies, especially Rebel Without a Cause, influenced Elvis Presley[108] and many other musicians who followed,[109] including the American rockers Eddie Cochran and Gene Vincent.

In their book, Live Fast, Die Young: The Wild Ride of Making Rebel Without a Cause, Lawrence Frascella and Al Weisel wrote, "Ironically, though Rebel had no rock music on its soundtrack, the film's sensibility—and especially the defiant attitude and effortless cool of James Dean—would have a great impact on rock. The music media would often see Dean and rock as inextricably linked [...] The industry trade magazine Music Connection even went so far as to call Dean 'the first rock star'."[110]

As rock and roll became a revolutionary force that affected the culture of countries around the world,[111] Dean acquired a mythic status that cemented his place as a rock and roll icon.[112]
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on April 16, 2021, 10:41:04 pm
"Yes, but jeans did not become fashionable until associated with Counterculture"
The same could be said of New Age Hedonism....
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 16, 2021, 10:44:49 pm
What are you proposing?
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on April 16, 2021, 10:47:46 pm
I am saying that we should not praise all things Counterculture because some of them are Jewish.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 16, 2021, 10:56:54 pm
Yes, Jews are experts at controlling dissent by leading it.

This is unrelated to our need to establish that Counterculture is not to be referred to as "Western", an academic error which is currently causing a lot of confusion as many who claim to be "anti-Western" are actually anti-Counterculture.

If you want to critique Counterculture, please start a new topic here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on April 16, 2021, 11:22:23 pm
So would opposing jeans necessarily make one Western? Shouldn't non-Westerners also oppose jeans since they are after all a Western invention?
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 17, 2021, 12:21:35 am
"So would opposing jeans necessarily make one Western?"

Not necessarily. But anyone who opposes jeans MORE THAN they oppose anything within Western dress code (informal and above) is Western, since in effect they imply that Western is superior to Counterculture.

"Shouldn't non-Westerners also oppose jeans since they are after all a Western invention?"

You may personally prefer some non-Western types of trousers over jeans, but you should still give credit to pro-jeans fashion movements for the significant part they played in chipping away at Western dress code during the Counterculture era:

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Distressed denim emerged from the cultural punk movement in the 1970s. Early punks tore apart consumer goods as an expression of their anger towards society.[52] Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols manifested the British punk ideology, which was fighting against the status quo. Denim became a key target of this politically fueled deconstruction, with both men and women donning torn pants and jackets, accessorized with safety pins and slogans. The trend became popular again in the 1990s with the emergence of grunge fashion. If punk was "anti-fashion", grunge was "non-fashion". The grunge youth wore loose-fitting ripped jeans, flannel shirts or woolen Pendletons layered over T-shirts. Their anti-conformist approach to fashion led to the popularization of the casual chic look, a trend which continued into the 2000s.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 17, 2021, 10:20:09 pm
While on the subject, let me mention one element of Western dress that has always irritated me: sexually dimorphic button placement:

(https://i.insider.com/583dd3bd65edfe21008b4c38?width=1136&format=jpeg)

This does not happen with the clothes of any other civilization, thereby once again demonstrating Western inferiority in its unique obsession with sexual dimorphism.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/03/the-curious-case-of-men-and-womens-buttons/388844/

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Women’s and men’s shirts and jackets differ not just in terms of how they’re cut, but also in how they’re oriented: To the person wearing them, men’s dress shirts have their buttons on the right, while women’s have them on the left.

This is not a big thing, but it is a weird thing: Every day, millions of people are walking around with these little reminders of gender inequality emblazoned on their chests. There are different theories as to why the discrepancy exists in the first place, but all of them come down to this: The Button Differential is a relic of an old tradition that we have ported, rather unthinkingly, into the contemporary world.
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“To insure that an enemy's lance point would not slip between the plates,” curators write in The Art of Chivalry: European Arms and Armor from the Metropolitan Museum of Art, “they overlapped from left to right, since it was standard fighting practice that the left side, protected by the shield, was turned toward the enemy. Thus, men's jackets button left to right even to the present day.”

You can extend the theory even further back (as in, waaaaaay further back). As Katherine Lester puts it in Accessories of Dress, “a man's role as hunter required that he pull a weapon from left to right. Fastening a garment from right to left would impede the movement of our ancestors.”
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Okay. So that (mostly) explains why men’s buttons are on the right. But then, why are women’s on the left?

One theory: babies. Given right-hand dominance, women tend to hold their infants in their left arms, keeping their right arms relatively free. So shirts whose open flap is on the right, one theory goes, makes it easier for them to open with those free hands for breastfeeding.

Another theory: horses. Women, to the extent women rode horses, rode sidesaddle, to the right—so putting their shirt and dress buttons on the left reduced, to some extent, the breeze that would flow into their shirts as they were trotting along.

Sidesaddle is also not present in any other civilization, though many civilizations adopted horseriding from Turanians. So we have yet another example of Western inferiority in its unique obsession with sexual dimorphism. Here we have the buttons and the saddle (and the subhuman face) in one picture:

(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/portrait-lady-red-horse-riding-walk-horsewoman-woman-astride-aristocrat-riding-walk-41905061.jpg)

By the way:

https://www.horsetalk.co.nz/2014/10/06/sidesaddles-suffragettes-fight-ride-vote/

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because it placed the majority of the weight on one side, it routinely injured the horse’s back. Plus, because of the long flapping riding dress hanging along his left flank, a “lady’s horse” had to be exceptionally well-trained, which translated into “expensive.” Finally, because of its bad fit, grooms were known to girth a sidesaddle up so tightly that the horse had trouble breathing.

But:

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Nevertheless, a noted British riding master, Colonel Hitchcock, urged women to continue with the method because, “the sidesaddle is the most decorative, dignified, and graceful method, and pleases the male eye, which prefers the ultra-feminine woman to the type which emulates the male in attire or atmosphere.”

**** Westerners.....
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 19, 2021, 01:43:18 am
While we're at it, let's look at a few other sexual dimorphism enhancements unique to colonial-era Western dress:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bustle

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Bustle_c._1885.jpg/448px-Bustle_c._1885.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/English_bustles_1875-1885_LACMA.jpg/800px-English_bustles_1875-1885_LACMA.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/USpatent131840_1872.gif/546px-USpatent131840_1872.gif)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Bustle_MET_CI45.79.2_S.jpg/483px-Bustle_MET_CI45.79.2_S.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Bustle.png/259px-Bustle.png)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannier_(clothing)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Woman%27s_Corset_LACMA_M.2007.211.353.jpg/431px-Woman%27s_Corset_LACMA_M.2007.211.353.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Sofia_Magdalenas_kr%C3%B6ningsdr%C3%A4kt_-_Livrustkammaren_-_13119.tif/lossy-page1-732px-Sofia_Magdalenas_kr%C3%B6ningsdr%C3%A4kt_-_Livrustkammaren_-_13119.tif.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Panniers_%28drawing%29.jpg/429px-Panniers_%28drawing%29.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corset

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Calkins-corset-ad-1898.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Corset1878taille46_300gram.png/389px-Corset1878taille46_300gram.png)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/RFpatent371319_1906.png/586px-RFpatent371319_1906.png)

And for men:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codpiece

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Cod-Piece_by_Wendelin_Boeheim.jpg)

Yes, the one on the right actually has a FACE on it! Westerners want to be literal dickheads!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Giovanni_Battista_Moroni_009.jpg/511px-Giovanni_Battista_Moroni_009.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Alonso_S%C3%A1nchez_Coello_-_Prince_Don_Carlos_of_Austria_-_WGA20718.jpg/574px-Alonso_S%C3%A1nchez_Coello_-_Prince_Don_Carlos_of_Austria_-_WGA20718.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Jakob_Seisenegger_001.jpg/359px-Jakob_Seisenegger_001.jpg)

Anyone who tells you Western civilization is not the most sexist civilization in history is lying.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: guest5 on April 20, 2021, 01:07:55 am
There's a joke about Westerners polishing their codpiece lurking around in my brain somewhere that I heard from someone once, but I forget how it goes. The fact that they actually put a face on one though should be all anyone needs see to come to the realization Westerners are some of the most mentally disturbed people in all of human history.  :D
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 23, 2021, 12:18:18 am
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/model-rawdah-mohamed-using-social-170400624.html

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Model Rawdah Mohamed On Using Social Media to Challenge France’s Proposed Hijab Ban
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I wanted my oppressors to see my face and the women who look like me. They don't get to hide in their luxurious parliament offices and regulate the female body without a fight. I want my face—and all of our faces—to always be remembered.

OK, let's get this done first (incoming Aryan phenotype alert!):

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(https://i.mdel.net/i/db/2020/1/1267774/1267774-500w.jpg)

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This ban disproportionately harms the right of women to manifest their freedom of religion. It is devastating. There is risk of marginalization which will also exclude hijabi women from the public spaces, and the ban can also weaponize oppressive and aggressive ideologies that continue to target us. For women this means daily discrimination in workplaces and out in the public. As reported by CCIF (The Collective Against Islamophobia in France) there were 676 registered Islamophobic acts in 2018 and seventy percent of those targeted were women, with fifty-five percent of those acts being committed by institutions. This is a highly dangerous xenophobic and anti- Muslim climate that we must move past together.

As a Muslim hijabi woman who often works in France, I believe this ban stems from discrimination and deeply rooted stereotypes against women of my religion. In my work as a fashion model, I constantly have to fight against inaccurate representation and biased perceptions that have been politicized, which are further reinforced through media outlets and then perpetuated within the general public and the fashion industry. I see this ban as yet another obstacle placed in the way of Muslim womens’ participation in society. The only thing this bill will accomplish is separating Muslim women from the public space.

The obstacles Muslim women face appear in all facets of their lives, including work. However, the times I have met creative people in the fashion industry have all been positive experiences—whether I have encountered designers, fashion editors, or stylists. I have been on numerous shoots where clients were eager to learn about the hijab and are open to explore the identity of today’s Muslim women and how to best portray us. On my first runway, the stylist along with the creative director let me choose between various hijab of the fashion house and allowed me to illustrate different ways I would style the hijab.

The real challenge, and the most discrimination I have felt, comes from the gatekeepers of the industry, mainly those in public relations and casting directors. As a result, I have felt hindered from the opportunity to meet the visionaries behind the brands. Those whom I meet before the client have often been perpetuators of the inaccurate representation of what it means to be a hijabi woman. They are in search of their one girl, their token card, and if you are not willing to play along with their biased perceptions, you are as good as banned from many jobs. They dominate the market and have exclusive control over multiple fashion houses and their strategies.

This is why nothing less than boycotting all Eurocentric brands is needed. So long as they know enough people will keep buying their products no matter how badly they behave, what incentive have they to improve their behaviour?
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 23, 2021, 10:48:03 pm
Today we will ridicule the complexity of one of the most definitive and most annoying elements of Western dress:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necktie

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The necktie that spread from Europe traces back to Croatian mercenaries serving in France during the Thirty Years' War (1618–1648). These mercenaries from the Croatian Military Frontier, wearing their traditional small, knotted neckerchiefs, aroused the interest of the Parisians.[2] Because of the difference between the Croatian word for Croats, Hrvati, and the French word, Croates, the garment gained the name cravat (cravate in French).[3] The boy-king Louis XIV began wearing a lace cravat around 1646, when he was seven, and set the fashion for French nobility. This new article of clothing started a fashion craze in Europe; both men and women wore pieces of fabric around their necks. From its introduction by the French king, men wore lace cravats, or jabots, that took a large amount of time and effort to arrange. These cravats were often tied in place by cravat strings, arranged neatly and tied in a bow.

International Necktie Day is celebrated on October 18 in Croatia and in various cities around the world, including in Dublin, Tübingen, Como, Tokyo, Sydney and other towns.[4][5]


I just came over from watching TYT make fun of Carlson wearing a bowtie, so let's start with the bowtie:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/HowToTieBowtie_VersionA.png/491px-HowToTieBowtie_VersionA.png)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/HowToTieBowtie_second-way-A.png/436px-HowToTieBowtie_second-way-A.png)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/HowToTieBowtie_VersionB.png/491px-HowToTieBowtie_VersionB.png)

The cravat is worse, however:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Neckclothitania-1818.gif)

And of course the standard tie is the worst:

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the four-in-hand knot. The four-in-hand knot may be the most common.
the Pratt knot (the Shelby knot)
the half-Windsor knot
the Windsor knot (also redundantly called the "full Windsor" and the "Double Windsor").
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Small knot (also "oriental knot", "Kent knot"): the smallest possible necktie knot. It forms an equilateral triangle, like the half-Windsor, but much more compact (Fink–Mao notation: Lo Ri Co T, Knot 1). It is also the smallest knot to begin inside-out.
Nicky knot: an alternative version of the Pratt knot, but better-balanced and self-releasing (Lo Ci Ro Li Co T, Knot 4). Supposedly named for Nikita Khrushchev, it tends to be equally referred to as the Pratt knot in men's style literature. This is the version of the Pratt knot favored by Fink and Mao.
Atlantic knot: a reversed Pratt knot, highlighting the structure of the knot normally hidden on the back. In order for the wide blade to remain in front and rightside-out, the knot must begin rightside-out, and the thin end must be wrapped around the wide end. (Ri Co Ri Lo Ci T; not catalogued by Fink and Mao, but would be numbered 5r according to their classification.)
Prince Albert knot (also "double knot", "cross Victoria knot"): A variant of the four-in-hand with an extra pass of the wide blade around the front, before passing the wide blade through both of the resultant loops (Li Ro Li Ro Li Co T T, Knot 62). A version knotted through only the outermost loop is known as the Victoria knot (Li Ro Li Ro Li Co T, Knot 6).
Christensen knot (also "cross knot"): An elongated, symmetrical knot, whose main feature is the cruciform structure made by knotting the necktie through the double loop made in the front (Li Ro Ci Lo Ri Lo Ri Co T T, Knot 252). While it can be made with modern neckties, it is most effective with thinner ties of consistent width, which fell out of common use after the 19th century.
Ediety knot (also "Merovingian knot"): a doubled Atlantic knot, best known as the tie knot worn by the character "the Merovingian" in the 2003 film The Matrix Reloaded. This tie can be knotted with the thin end over the wide end, as with the Atlantic knot, or with the wide end over the thin end to mimic the look seen in the film, with the narrow blade in front. (Ri Co Ri Lo Ci Ri Co Ri Lo Ci T – not catalogued by Fink and Mao, as its 10 moves exceed their parameters.)
Victoria knot
Eldredge knot
Trinity knot
Tulip knot
Vidalia knot
Caped Eldredge knot
Trinity-Eldredge knot
St.Andrew knot
Balthus knot
Hanover knot
Grantchester knot
Plattsburgh knot

http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~tmf20/85ways.shtml

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THE 85 WAYS TO TIE A TIE
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There is an overwhelming amount of information about knots, knot tying, knot science, knot history, and knot theory in this book.  Think I'm kidding?

In order for you to know how to tie all these 85 different knots, you first have to learn all the different moves:

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Finally, if after all the above you still do not consider Western dress to be the most inferior the world, here is a necktie that suits you:

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Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 24, 2021, 10:32:56 pm
Another uniquely Western item that has has always annoyed me is the handbag. Ever since I was a child, I did not understand why women's clothes did not have pockets while men's clothes did. Either pockets are a good idea, in which case they should be used by everyone, or they are a bad idea, in which case they should be used by no one. This was actually how it was in non-Western civilizations. Western civilization, of course, only cares about sexual dimorphism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handbag

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In the 17th century, young girls were taught embroidery as a necessary skill for marriage; this also helped them make very beautiful handbags.[3] By the late 18th century, fashions in Europe were moving towards a slender shape for these accessories, inspired by the silhouettes of Ancient Greece and Rome. Women wanted purses that would not be bulky or untidy in appearance, so reticules were designed. Reticules were made of fine fabrics like silk and velvet, carried with wrist straps. First becoming popular in France, they crossed over into Britain, where they became known as "indispensables."[4] Men, however, did not adopt the trend. They used purses and pockets, which became popular in men's trousers.[5]

The modern purse, clutch, pouch, or handbag came about in England during the Industrial Revolution, in part due to the increase in travel by railway. In 1841 the Doncaster industrialist and confectionery entrepreneur Samuel Parkinson (of butterscotch fame) ordered a set of traveling cases and trunks and insisted on a traveling case or bag for his wife's particulars after noticing that her purse was too small and made from a material that would not withstand the journey. He stipulated that he wanted various handbags for his wife, varying in size for different occasions, and asked that they be made from the same leather that was being used for his cases and trunks to distinguish them from the then-familiar carpetbag and other travelers' cloth bags used by members of the popular classes. H. J. Cave (London) obliged and produced the first modern set of luxury handbags, as we would recognize them today, including a clutch and a tote (named as 'ladies traveling case').
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In the early 20th century, Sigmund Freud argued that purses were sexually suggestive as the structure of the purse symbolized female genitalia and sexuality. ... Freud compared women retrieving items from their purse as a representation of ****. According to Freud’s argument, women who carried purses openly displayed their sexuality due to the sexual symbolism of the purse.[7]

As if this were not bad enough, Western critics of handbags based their opposition also on sexual dimorphism!

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many critics said that women did not need them and that bags of such size and heavy material would 'break the backs of ladies.'

This is Western civilization for you.....
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zhang Caizhi on April 25, 2021, 05:40:53 am
I am not sure if Thai student uniforms in Thai public schools are based on western student uniforms or not.
Every student in Thai public schools have to wear the uniform regulated by the Ministry of Education of Thailand like in the image below.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZR9WMcPY/Ban-Hat-Suea-Ten-School-2010-06.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5YV9H8kD)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 25, 2021, 11:56:04 pm
While it has been modified to suit the warmer climate, I am fairly sure that it was based on a Western template. The folded collars, the shoes, etc. are dead giveaways.

This goes back to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Thai_clothing#Modern_Rattanakosin

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From the 1860s onward, Thai royals "selectively adopted Victorian corporeal and sartorial etiquette to fashion modern personas that were publicized domestically and internationally by means of mechanically reproduced images."[11] Stitched clothing, including court attire and ceremonial uniforms, were invented during the reign of King Chulalongkorn.[11] Western forms of dress became popular among urbanites in Bangkok during this time period.[11] During the early 1900s, King Vajiravudh launched a campaign to encourage Thai women to wear long hair instead of traditional short hair, and to wear pha sinh (ผ้าซิ่น), a tubular skirt, instead of the chong kraben (โจงกระเบน), a cloth wrap.[12]
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On 15 January 1941, Plaek Pibulsonggram issued a Thai cultural mandate to modernize and westernize Thai dress, by deeming long-practiced customs of wearing underpants, wearing no shirt, or wearing a wraparound cloth, as forms of inappropriate public attire.[13]

This is what we are here to reverse.

At least the uniform shown does not include neckties! That is the only good thing about it.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zhang Caizhi on April 26, 2021, 12:36:17 am
Brief differences between male and female students in public schools regulated by the Ministry of Education of Thailand:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_uniforms_in_Thailand

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Boys

Shirts
Most male students wear a white shirt with a left breast pocket. Initials or logo on the left breast and the name of the school or student ID number on the right breast. Embroidery in red or blue.

Pants and belt
Three styles:

Khaki shorts with brown leather belt
Black shorts with leather belt in black or brown
Blue shorts with belt, black or brown

Shoes and socks
Two styles:

Khaki shorts wears brown socks and brown shoes
Black or blue shorts wears white socks and black shoes

Girls

Blouses
Elementary students: White blouse similar to boy's shirts, untucked shirt tails
Secondary school: White blouse similar to boy's shirts, can have a ribbon and untucked shirt tails
Upper secondary students: White shirt similar to boy's shirts

Skirt
Navy blue with six pleats in front and six in back

Shoes and socks
Black leather shoes and white socks
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 10, 2021, 12:50:24 am
What pathological Eurocentrism looks like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3VVZAVuLtU


Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 24, 2021, 02:27:16 am
North Korea just doesn't get it:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-bans-mullet-haircuts-151158799.html

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North Korea has banned mullets, certain piercings, and skinny jeans in a bid to keep the country free from "decadent" Western fashion trends.

Counterculture is not Western! Try banning Western suits and neckties instead! Do you realize how colonized you look wearing that ****?

(https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/830a3e8eba7343de90122ccbfa451fa2/3000.jpeg)
Title: Re: Sports as a platform for protest
Post by: guest5 on June 12, 2021, 02:02:33 am
Robert Kraft Video Reveals How Out Of Touch Rich People Are
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Robert Kraft has a new ride...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfQk-f9B4qk&list=TLPQMTIwNjIwMjEWSoqF3vWqWg&index=9

The comments are interesting....

Eurocentric "blacks" are obviously some of the most disgusting Eurocentricists out there! Eurocentric "black" rappers are just imbeciles to boot, they will all be forgotten once Western civilization dies and the world begins to heal from this nightmare.

The meaning behind the classical paintings in Beyoncé and Jay-Z’s “Apeshit”
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Why it matters that the video takes place in the Louvre.
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And as an artistic choice, the Louvre is par for Beyoncé’s course. For the past few years, Beyoncé has increasingly cribbed from the iconography of classical Western art in her own image-making.
https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/6/19/17476212/apeshit-video-beyonce-jay-z-carters-portrait-negresse-benoist

They obviously only do it because they believe it makes them look "sophisticated" and "classy", by Western standards of course.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kbMqWXnpXcA/maxresdefault.jpg)

Let's pretend for a second "Apeshit" was meant to be offensive toward Western civilization, oh wait never mind, just read the lyrics....

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/09/14/19/18480614-7464027-image-m-105_1568485675500.jpg)

Is Sally Hazelgrove Jewish?

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/09/14/19/18480612-7464027-image-a-106_1568485968336.jpg)

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/09/14/20/18480096-7464027-image-a-112_1568488282989.jpg)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 04, 2021, 10:20:57 pm
Again the Western obsession with sexual dimorphism:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-army-under-fire-making-185100601.html

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Ukrainian army under fire for making female soldiers march in high heels
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The military did not offer an explanation as to why women were made to march in different footwear than their male comrades, according to the Associated Press.
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Aside from accusing Ukrainian society as a whole of being “patriarchal” and sexist, a 2016 United Nations study titled “Invisible Battalion” leveled several charges of sexism against the Ukrainian military itself. Analyzing warfare and the military through “feminist studies,” the report accused the military of treating women as "second class," failing to supply them with proper uniforms and hygiene products, and failing to take many of them seriously.

Even civilians should not be wearing high heels! Besides the health effects previously covered:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/msg43/#msg43

they are part of Western dress code:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dress_shoe#Women's_dress_shoes

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Pumps
Pumps come in a variety of colors and styles. They can have a rounded or pointed toe, and are usually made of leather. They have a heel of at least 5 cm (2 inches)[citation needed]. Today, pumps have evolved beyond the classic working woman's shoe. Now, there are peep toe pumps, which have a small opening at the toes. There are also pumps with ankle straps. Not only have the styles evolved, the fabrics have as well. While almost all pumps used to be made of leather, pumps now come in a variety of materials, such as suede and wool.

Slingbacks
The slingback is similar to the pump in that it can have a rounded or pointed toe and usually has a heel, but it doesn't wrap all the way around the heel like pumps usually do. Instead, it has a narrow strap that is pulled up over the heel, leaving the rest of the heel exposed.

Loafers
Loafers are usually flat and typically thought of as both more masculine and comfortable than anything with a heel. The typical loafer has a round toe, and comes in darker colors, such as black or brown. A spin on the loafer is the cloak, which, like the loafer, is a slip-on shoe, but it has a heel and is considered a more "feminine" design.

Mules
Mules are shoes that slide onto the foot, and do not cover the heel or the back of the foot at all. These aren't considered dress shoes unless they have a heel.

and hence should be rejected on decolonization grounds alone. And of course the ultimate intent behind their design is to increase sexual dimorphism, therefore they should be rejected for this reason too.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 19, 2021, 09:49:00 pm
And again. What is it about sexual dimorphism that is so important to Westerners?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/norwegian-womens-beach-handball-team-172201500.html

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The Norwegian women's beach-handball team is facing fines for choosing to wear shorts at the European championship instead of bikini bottoms, according to a statement issued by the European Handball Federation (EHF) on Monday.
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"Women should wear a bikini where the top should be a tight-fitting sports bra with deep openings at the arms. The bottom must not be more than ten centimeters on the sides," the regulations say.
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Meanwhile, regulations for men's uniforms say that participants must wear "tight-fitting tank tops" and longer shorts "that are not too baggy" but "should be 10 centimeters above the kneecap."

It is clear that this has nothing to do with ergonomic efficiency. (Either bikini bottoms are more efficient, in which case men should also wear them, or else shorts are more efficient, in which case women should also wear them.) This is purely about the Western insistence that men and women dress differently even when performing the exact same activity, purely in order to accentuate sexual dimorphism.

(Rightists who claim that Islam etc. also requires women to dress differently than men completely miss the point, which is that Islamic dress codes try to reduce women's visible sexual dimorphism as opposed to Western dress codes which try to increase women's visible sexual dimorphism. It is incredible that I even need to explain this.....)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AHeOUOzcCw
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zea_mays on July 23, 2021, 11:16:47 am
(https://i.redd.it/16sgacgj3tc71.jpg)
https://i.redd.it/16sgacgj3tc71.jpg

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I couldn't find any articles written about this, but I have heard about a number of different "black" professors and intellectuals who wear Western 1700s-style clothing in 'protest' of Eurocentrism. I guess they wait for people to ask why they are wearing weird clothes and then go on a long rant about something. But 99% of the people who see them from afar probably think they are just colonial junkies on their way to a Renaissance fair.

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On a different note, here is an another article about denim's association with the Civil Rights Movement. Within the movement, there was a battle between those who wanted to appear respectable by "white" standards, and those who rebelled by rejecting "respectable" Western forms of clothing.
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While Elvis Presley and the cast of Rebel Without a Cause helped spark a new appreciation for bootcuts among the Youthquake culture, most people considered them too closely linked with the working man to wear them. For example, in 1969 nearly 200 students got suspended from their high school for wearing dark blue pants because they too closely resembled blue jeans. They were mostly something you wore while cleaning out the garage, not something you put on for cocktails.
[...]
But the revolutionaries on the front pages of newspapers helped denim become a staple in everyday people’s wardrobes. “It took Martin Luther King’s march on Washington to make them popular,” wrote Caroline A. Jones, author of Machine in the Studio: Constructing the Postwar American Artist. “It was here that civil rights activists were photographed wearing the poor sharecropper's blue denim overalls to dramatize how little had been accomplished since Reconstruction.”

While at first activists snapped on their overalls out of practicality — they were tired of mending tears from attack dogs and high-pressure hoses, and jeans could withstand the abuse — they also put them on to bring back a not-too-distant past. They used to be referred to as ‘Negro clothes’ — slave owners bought denim for their enslaved workers, partly because the material was sturdy, and partly because it helped contrast them against the linen suits and lace parasols of plantation families — and their inclusion in the civil rights movement suggested that pointed societal divide. For much of the black community, the activists’ symbolism was obvious. Separate then; separate now.

“There were some African Americans who felt that to wear jeans was disrespectful to yourself,” says James Sullivan, author of Jeans: A Cultural History of an American Icon. “For many African Americans, denim workwear represented a painful reminder of the old sharecropper system. James Brown, for one, refused to wear jeans, and for years forbade his band members from wearing them.” Sullivan points out that if you look at pictures of the sons and daughters of the sharecropper generations of the early 20th century who moved north to get away from the fields, you’ll notice that they wore suits, ties, and hats to their factory jobs, partly to create that distance.
[...]
Although some protestors knew their white neighbors would chafe against seeing them walk the streets in sharecropper clothes — and used that to their advantage — the strategy wasn't promoted by all Freedom Fighters. Respectability politics was still a popular tactic for gaining support. In 1965, before gearing up to drive down to three hard-core segregationist states in the Deep South to register people to vote, a NAACP representative went to the front of the room during a secret civil rights meeting in New York City, and flatly declared, “We don't want any girls in blue jeans. We don't want any boys in beards.” They wanted people’s hair pressed and collars crisp, knowing how quickly the evening news would misrepresent them if they came in anything less than their Sunday best.
[...]
by putting on the working man’s uniform, revolutionaries showed they didn’t have to dress in a way their white peers deemed “acceptable” in order to gain the rights that were theirs to begin with. Even if activists showed up in banker’s pinstripes, that wouldn’t convert segregationists into allies. “No matter what the whites’ sense of justice tells them needs to be done for Negroes, are they going to let themselves to be bulldozed into doing it?” asked the Missouri Springfield Leader and Press in 1967. Whites refused to be “pushed” toward equality. The movement’s clothes weren’t the issue, and having their appearance policed was just another way of being controlled.

Denim was very much the look of the black freedom struggle, but like most nonconformist messages — from the anti-establishment punks with their queen’s tartan to the anti-capitalist beatniks with their berets — it was co-opted by the mainstream; taken out of its original context in order to fit into people’s wardrobes. But unlike those well-known and heavily referenced underground movements, most people aren’t aware which of their denim styles were copied from civil rights protestors. Instead, those same styles were lauded as “new.”
https://www.racked.com/2017/10/30/16496866/denim-civil-rights-movement-blue-jeans-history
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 23, 2021, 11:25:44 pm
"I have heard about a number of different "black" professors and intellectuals who wear Western 1700s-style clothing in 'protest' of Eurocentrism. I guess they wait for people to ask why they are wearing weird clothes and then go on a long rant about something. But 99% of the people who see them from afar probably think they are just colonial junkies on their way to a Renaissance fair."

This sounds like a stupid idea to me. It would be equivalent to us as anti-Zionists walking around wearing kippahs!

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it helped contrast them against the linen suits and lace parasols of plantation families

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg6283/#msg6283

Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Avena_sativa on July 25, 2021, 01:54:06 pm
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Islamic dress codes try to reduce women's visible sexual dimorphism as opposed to Western dress codes which try to increase women's visible sexual dimorphism. It is incredible that I even need to explain this
I actually think that this needs to be explained further, especially when we consider that many False Leftists who receive our propaganda share similar positions (often in agreement) with Rightists on the topic of Mohammedanism. Generally, False Leftists who hold some form of anti-colonial/anti-western/anti-“white” beliefs already agree that Islamic dress codes are at least superior to Western dress codes. However, explicit discussions of sexual dimorphism being the reason for this superiority may result in the more idealistically-motivated False Leftists (especially ones who claim to be anti-traditionalist) seeing contemporary Islamic dress codes as visually sexually dimorphic in their own right on account of such codes employing different articles of clothing for men than for women and on account of the perception that those dress codes reduce the visual sexual dimorphism of women without simultaneously reducing the visual sexual dimorphism of men to the same degree.

This may produce positive results, such as the motivation to improve existing Islamic dress codes. It also could produce negative results, such as False Leftists drawing an incorrect conclusion that Mohammedanism views women as more sexually dimorphic than men. I believe this potential confusion could be proactively prevented if we are able to communicate an idealized version of the Islamic dress code according to Mohammedan standards to the audience receiving our message. What might such a dress code look like relative to the existing ones?
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 25, 2021, 10:25:01 pm
"contemporary Islamic dress codes as visually sexually dimorphic in their own right on account of such codes employing different articles of clothing for men than for women"

The key is to clearly explain that different dress practices for men and for women does not necessarily correspond to celebration of sexual dimorphism, so long as the particular practices are designed to disguise (rather than accentuate) the sexual dimorphism of the practitioners.

"those dress codes reduce the visual sexual dimorphism of women without simultaneously reducing the visual sexual dimorphism of men to the same degree."

This is a valid criticism and one which I have raised myself in the past. Why should women do more work than men in dressing up? They should not. But the point here is that Western dress also requires women to do more work than men in dressing up, yet this extra work is done by women in order to increase their visible sexual dimorphism! Thus both Western and Islamic dress codes (sadly) require women to do more work, but for opposite objectives, and comparing only the objectives allows us to conclude that Islamic dress code is at least trying to aim in a good direction (albeit with much room for improvement).

"an idealized version of the Islamic dress code according to Mohammedan standards to the audience receiving our message. What might such a dress code look like relative to the existing ones?"

The main issue is how to cover hair. I personally would say that hats/turbans are adequate, though societies which want headscarves should be allowed to keep using them on the condition that men be required to wear them also. I also support the alternative of shaving the head.

Related:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/re-genghis-khan/msg4142/#msg4142
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zea_mays on July 26, 2021, 12:27:38 pm
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This sounds like a stupid idea to me. It would be equivalent to us as anti-Zionists walking around wearing kippahs!

I still can't find any articles about US professors/intellectuals doing this, but I stumbled across this article about Namibians. (See articles for pictures).

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The Namibians who STILL dress like their colonial masters: Tribe clings to 19th century dress 'to protest against the Germans who butchered them'

    Anthropologists believe the dress of the Herero tribe is a fascinating subversion of their former rulers' fashion
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2286624/The-Namibian-women-STILL-dress-like-colonists-Tribe-clings-19th-century-dress-protest-Germans-butchered-them.html

Maybe 100 years ago it was a triumph over colonialism, now it's just plain colonialism.

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Naughten told TIME that, according to custom, whenever a Herero warrior would kill a German soldier they would take his uniform, considered to be a badge of honor and an act that would symbolically “take their power.”

Today, many of the uniforms are merely bartered, bought or sold, but the influence of the early German colonial wares has led the Herero to adopt other more European elements of fashion. In this remote corner of the Namib, European style of dress has become a celebrated aspect of the modern Herero’s identity.
https://time.com/3797199/jim-naughten-conflict-and-costume-in-namibia/

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This website may be a useful resource when examining colonization and decolonization in fashion:

https://fashionandrace.org/database/vision-statement/
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 26, 2021, 10:42:28 pm
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take his uniform, considered to be a badge of honor and an act that would symbolically “take their power.”

Take it and burn it! Western power is to be destroyed, not appropriated for one's own use! This is Boromir Syndrome all over again!

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the influence of the early German colonial wares has led the Herero to adopt other more European elements of fashion. In this remote corner of the Namib, European style of dress has become a celebrated aspect of the modern Herero’s identity.

(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)

More from the first link:

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Herero women also affected the styles and the airs and graces of the Christian missionary ladies who had come among them in the 1890s.

Why do you want to become that which oppressed you?

Oh, wait:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_people

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Unlike most Bantu, who are primarily subsistence farmers,[2] the Herero are traditionally pastoralists. They make a living tending livestock.[3]

Turanians. This explains everything.....
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Zhang Caizhi on August 07, 2021, 07:19:03 am
North Korea's leader:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2019/dec/04/kim-jong-un-rides-to-sacred-peak-on-white-horse-in-pictures

(https://i.postimg.cc/Wp5mRGk9/3500.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ThW5gWQm)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zea_mays on August 10, 2021, 06:17:03 pm
It's weird how in children's stories it is popular for characters to have patches on their clothes from mending, but most adults would rather throw their clothes away if they get the tiniest hole.

I think things like mending one's clothes and thrifting old clothes is one of the simplest ways for an individual to start decolonizing their wardrobe. This is basically the bare minimum to reject consumerist-driven fashion trends.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Visiblemending/


(https://trueleft.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-My-vOu3dQ2Y%2FTWBw_Oq6NaI%2FAAAAAAAAF5Y%2Fibbok2CvMO0%2Fs1600%2F9780140503524.jpg&hash=6ff0bc86690c63dc019456e6c4b894e80fd3e8fa)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 10, 2021, 10:38:41 pm
I love mended clothes (as well as quilts etc.)! They are one of my favourite features in children's books. I mend clothes as much as possible. I still wear many of the clothes I was wearing when I was a teenager. Most of my peers can no longer fit into theirs, but I of course do not have this problem due to my superior somatotype.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge#Clothing_and_fashion

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The grunge look typically consisted of second-hand clothes or thrift store items
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As well, since women in the grunge scene wore the "... same plaid [shirt]s, boots, and short cropped heads as their male counterparts", women showed "... that they are not defined by their sex appeal."[104]

"Grunge ... became an anti-consumerist movement where the less you spent on clothes, the more 'coolness' you had."[105]

Technically speaking, it should be noted that Western clothes are uniquely incompatible with mending due to their topological complexity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gather_(sewing)

etc.

therefore it is definitely true that a pro-mending tendency will logically lead to recognition of Western inferiority.

For that matter, the topological complexity of Western clothes also makes them especially annoying to iron. I am reminded of Western inferiority every time I do ironing, especially when I iron Western and non-Western clothes back-to-back.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 17, 2021, 10:05:31 pm
Western dress is out in Afghanistan!

(https://i0.wp.com/www.occidentaldissent.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/women-lib-afghan.jpg?resize=678%2C381)

(Now you see how slavish North Korea is in comparison.....)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 21, 2021, 10:57:06 pm
https://globaltimesng.com/2021/08/07/hisbah-finally-comments-on-the-dress-worn-by-yusuf-buharis-bride-to-be-zahra-nasir-bayero-at-her-bridal-shower/

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The Hisbah Commission for the Promotion of Islamic Teachings in Kano State has finally reacted to the dress worn by Zahra Nasir Bayero, the daughter of the Emir of Bichi, during her bridal shower.

Zahra Nasir Bayero is to wed Yusuf Buhari, the son of the President of Nigeria, Muhammadu Buhari.
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Hisbah commander Sheikh Harun Ibn Sina told the BBC that the Sultan’s daughter is not above the law and should lead by example if she wants to be blessed in her marriage.

(https://i1.wp.com/www.yabaleftonline.ng/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Zahra-bride1.jpg?w=768&ssl=1)

(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)

She should study Nigerian history:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/nigeria/
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 02, 2021, 03:55:26 am
More on the commendable achievements of the Taliban:

https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-58388333

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Afsoon can't remember the time in the 90s, the decade she was born, when the Taliban first banned beauty salons in her country.

But she grew up in an Afghanistan where beauty parlours were a regular part of her life. In the two decades since the US-led invasion that ousted the Taliban in 2001, more than 200 beauty parlours opened in Kabul alone, with hundreds more in other parts of the country.

As a teenager she would thumb through magazines and social media for glamorous looks, and she'd visit salons with women in her family.

She loved everything about that world. The multi-coloured nail painting, the make-up artists bent over women to paint smoky kohl eyeliners to frame thick brushed eyelashes on a dewy sparkling made-up face. The glossy blow-dries and swishy long hairstyles.
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Like all beauty parlours in Kabul, Afsoon's salon had windows that were entirely covered with posters of glamorous and elegant women advertising a promise of beauty that could be yours inside.
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But on Sunday 15 August, the day the Taliban took control of Kabul's presidential palace, her years of hard work ended in a day.
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"It is the end of the beauty industry in Afghanistan."

The accurate name of the industry is the cosmetics industry. There is nothing beautiful about it. Observe the Western styles advertized prior to being painted over:

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F28F/production/_120359026_womantaliban.jpg)

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1199F/production/_120359027_gettyimages-1234785430.jpg)

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/

And let's not even get started about Western cruelty:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmetic_industry#Animal_testing

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Animal testing has been a large controversy in the cosmetic industry. Animal tests performed include the Draize eye irritancy test, where test chemicals are applied to rabbits’ eyes and left on for several days,[25] and toxicity tests such as LD50, where a substance's toxicity is tested by determining the concentration at which it will kill 50% of the test animals.[26]

WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!

The last time we had any similar movement against cosmetics:

https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/hitler-hated-red-lipstick/

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According to Fedler, Adolf Hitler “famously hated red lipstick.” Madeleine Marsh, author of Compacts and Cosmetics explained: “The Aryan ideal was a pure, un-scrubbed face. [Lady] visitors to Hitler’s country retreat were actually given a little list of things they must not do: Avoid excessive cosmetics, avoid red lipstick, and on no account ever [were] they to color their nails.”

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg4434/#msg4434
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: guest55 on September 02, 2021, 10:39:31 am
Why do so many women feel the need for makeup? Do you think it's an innate desire of most women to paint themselves literally into a what they believe is a better version of themselves? Or, do you believe it's mostly due to excellent Western marketing strategies? Lest we forget women's "beauty" and all the products related to it is almost beyond an obsession to most Westerners....

It is odd though that only women feel the need to paint themselves into something they are not, and most men do not. As pointed out on the main website, makeup is deception. Is it men's ideals of "beauty" that drive women to paint themselves daily?
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zea_mays on September 02, 2021, 12:15:59 pm
I think the prevalence of nearly every Western woman wearing makeup is driven largely by marketing and social peer pressure from gender roles. In social circles where all the members are "basic (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Basic%20Bitch)" estrogen junkies and trend followers, there will be high conformity with trends and social pressures. But in social circles where pressure to conform isn't as strong (e.g. nerds, women who work on farms or other manual-labor jobs, certain types of feminists, even women from Western nations where the culture simply isn't as makeup-obsessed as the US, etc.), far fewer women will bother to wear makeup.

I recall reading some writing from ancient Greece lamenting how women would wear makeup to darken their eyebrows, etc, so this type of vanity has always existed.

And men in some non-Western cultures do commonly wear makeup. Although in this particular example it might largely be ceremonial, rather than for daily vanity purposes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohl_(cosmetics)#Kohl_and_Islam


But, regarding cosmetics, I doubt any time period has been as aesthetically-inferior as Western civilization has been in the past ~120 years since people like Edward Bernays treated advertising as a literal form of propaganda and psychological warfare. Non-Western cultures may have "beauty standards" (which can be good or bad), but I think it is only Western civilization which convinces literally everyone their innate look is ugly and that they need to change themselves with cosmetics.

According to the Western cosmetic industry:
People with straight hair need to curl it and use chemicals to "volumize" it. People with curly hair need chemically straighten it. People with light skin need to go tanning or use chemical treatments to darken their skin. People with dark skin need to use chemical treatments to lighten their skin (this is especially prevalent in non-Western nations which have been colonized!!) Etc, etc. The Western cosmetic industry doesn't even have any real beauty standards--it just exists to make people insecure to drive economic demand for new products.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 23, 2021, 11:33:24 pm
https://us.yahoo.com/lifestyle/billie-eilish-lost-followers-corset-boobs-revealing-outfits-174425177.html

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Eilish rose to fame while sporting an aesthetic that included oversized sweatshirts and baggy pants, but lately has been exploring more form-fitted styles. In a recent Instagram post, she sported a corset with a lace bra underneath — something that drew the ire of trolls who disapproved of the change.

“People hold on to these memories and have an attachment. But it’s very dehumanizing," Eilish told the magazine, “I lost 100,000 followers, just because of the boobs. People are scared of big boobs.”

We win! You choose Western clothes (higher sexual dimorphism):

(https://static.independent.co.uk/2021/09/23/21/GettyImages-1340128767.jpg?width=982&height=726&auto=webp&quality=75)

over Counterculture clothes (lower sexual dimorphism):

(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2020-02/9/23/asset/2ca65ef24e98/sub-buzz-477-1581291569-6.jpg?downsize=700%3A%2A&output-quality=auto&output-format=auto)

you get boycotted!

Which is not to say that you were ever part of the Counterculture, no matter how you used to dress:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/re-trump-disapproval-377/msg7248/#msg7248

but your latest style shift reveals who you really were all along: just another Westerner.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zea_mays on November 08, 2021, 02:38:33 pm
(https://thenational-the-national-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/q4rLnbsSGHqt23JBGtVe5n4ZhCY=/800x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/thenational/Q4ITQLCIWRECDFF4FM3JMVZS24.jfif)

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A campaign promoting diversity among women and their freedom to wear the hijab has been dropped after it sparked an outcry in the secular French political establishment.
[...]
“I was profoundly shocked,” Ms El Hairy said. “It is the opposite of the values that France defends, it is promoting the wearing of the hijab.

“This is to be condemned and because of this France made clear its extremely strong disapproval and hence the campaign has now been withdrawn as of today,” she said on Tuesday, confirming that Paris had issued an official protest through diplomatic channels.
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk-news/2021/11/04/eu-hijab-inclusivity-campaign-dropped-after-anger-in-france/

France's national motto is "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". I guess all three of those only apply to Westerners.


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And, just for fun:


This photo is probably not authentic (the shadows/coloration on his face doesn't match the rest of the body), and I can't really find any sources beyond the trash Daily Mail and other tabloids. But this is fun nonetheless:

(https://i.imgur.com/RKZDzut.jpg)

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But this bizarre picture, which has only recently been uncovered, claims to show Adolf Hitler shunning his usual military attire for a floating, Japanese kimono.
[...]
The exact origin of the picture is unknown but it is thought to have been taken in 1936, to commemorate the signing of the international pact between Nazi Germany and Japan.
[...]
Earlier this year, a rare archive photo which the German leader had banned was discovered alongside several other embarrassing portraits in a Hitler ‘fan magazine’ from the Thirties.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3133517/Is-photo-Hitler-wanted-hide-world-Bizarre-image-appears-Nazi-leader-dressed-swastika-emblazoned-Japanese-kimono.html

I couldn't find much info on the "Beyond Belief Archive" that this photo supposedly originated from, nor does it seem anyone else was able to:
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=1953083&sid=62817c6f915b11308eb9b7f40e27427b#p1953083

If the image was genuinely from a fan magazine in the 1930s (photo manipulation did exist back then), then it shows his fans had no problem imaging him in non-Western attire.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: SirGalahad on November 08, 2021, 03:45:08 pm
Either the creator of those posters is a professional backlash herder, or we have a useful idiot on our hands. What really irks me about the "celebrate diversity" talk that's been making the rounds since the mid 2010s, is that it emphasizes our differences instead of making any sort of helpful statement of unity between immigrants and non-immigrants. It's also disrespectful towards Islam, since it implies that the hijab has no worth outside of being a fashion statement. Most people who wear a hijab, aren't doing so to stand out or to be some sort of exotic eye candy. And the theoretical end goal of mainstream Islam isn't to remain a perpetual segment of whatever population it's a part of either. It's to convert everyone to the religion, which isn't very conducive to "diversity". The funny thing is that, as mentioned in the article, our enemies see this as Islamist propaganda, whereas any real Islamist would take a look at this and realize that any sort of "Islamism" hidden in these posters has been completely neutered.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zhang Caizhi on December 03, 2021, 08:41:09 am
Today, many countries even amongst non-Europe have neckties or bowties as service dress uniforms for military personnel.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zea_mays on December 04, 2021, 06:05:02 am
More odd Western dress standards:

(https://i.redd.it/5abzmlnghm181.png)

A child would ask: "...what is the point of even having an extra button if you're not allowed to ever button it?"

The "refined" Western adult would respond by beating them until they stop questioning and just conform with the buttoning tradition.


(The actual answer):
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A Quick History Lesson and a Fat King

Historically, in the early years of the suit as everyday menswear, it appears there were no formal buttoning rules. Look to trade magazines and illustrations from the earlier part of the 20th century, and one sees jackets with between one and five buttons, each buttoned in a manner that suited the personality of the wearer or the cut of the garment.

But much of this changed with a king who was too fat to button his jacket. Or at least, that’s what legend says.

According to the lore of menswear, in the early 1900s King Edward VII started the trend of leaving the bottom button of a suit undone.

Apparently, he grew so rotund that he was unable to fasten the bottom button of his waistcoat and jacket. To not offend the king, those associated with him started doing the same. The custom then gradually spread the world round (as England was still largely an imperial power with great influence across the globe).
https://www.artofmanliness.com/style/outfit-guide/art-of-manliness-suit-school-part-iii-a-primer-on-suit-buttons/
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 20, 2021, 08:50:41 pm
Another inferiority of Western civilization is use of washing machines. Environmental impact covered here:

https://sitex-corp.com/environmental-impact-of-washing-machines/

For some time now, I have been hand-washing my clothes. This is what we should encourage for all wishing to decolonize. Besides being more environmentally friendly and less damaging to the clothes themselves, it also increases our emotional bond with our clothes, is good physical exercise and even helps awaken Aryan blood memory. I use cold water only (emulating how we used to do laundry at the riverside in ancient times all the way back to the Golden Age). Note that the idea of using heated water for laundry is Western also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing_machine

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In 1782, Henry Sidgier issued a British patent for a rotating drum washer, and in the 1790s Edward Beetham sold numerous "patent washing mills" in England.[4]
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As metal drums started to replace the traditional wooden drums, it allowed for the drum to turn above an open fire or an enclosed fire chamber, raising the water temperature for more effective washes.

(https://www.cleaninginstitute.org/sites/default/files/assets/1/Photos/700x700/CWSfacts_90percent.jpg)

Tumble driers (another Western invention, of course) are even more absurdly wasteful; I never saw any reason to use them. What is wrong with simply letting laundry dry by itself?

(https://www.greenlivingpdx.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Screen-Shot-2020-01-02-at-10.38.32-AM.jpg)

Yet I know of some Western residential compounds where it is actually forbidden to dry laundry outdoors, supposedly for the sake of maintaining the view! WTF?! I myself have always enjoyed the sight of hanging laundry! I think it enhances the local atmosphere:

(https://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/18655049/thumb/1.jpg)

Oh wait, I found the following story literally while typing up this post:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2239084/Now-thats-Chinese-laundry-Washing-hung-students-balconies-creates-bright-rainbow-patchwork-colours.html

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Very few Chinese people own clothes dryers so the majority simply hang their clothes out to dry naturally like these tenants at Hubei University of Traditional Chinese Medicine.

In its densely packed cities, the preference for outdoor drying usually means that a common view along residential streets is clothes, hanging from balconies, pinned to trees, or suspended from telephone and power lines.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/27/article-0-163AE3C2000005DC-749_964x641.jpg)

So far so good, right? Now here comes the bad news:

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But in 2010, in Shanghai, China's largest metropolis, drying your clothes in the open was deemed archaic.

Authorities issued an edict banning the practice of hanging clothes out to dry deeming it as 'uncivilized.'

(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 22, 2021, 09:39:00 pm
And don't even get me started on the further Western inferiority called:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_cleaning

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Dry cleaning still involves liquid, but clothes are instead soaked in a water-free liquid solvent, tetrachloroethylene (perchloroethylene), known in the industry as "perc", which is the most widely used solvent. Alternative solvents are 1-bromopropane and petroleum spirits.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachloroethylene

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The International Agency for Research on Cancer has classified tetrachloroethylene as a Group 2A carcinogen, which means that it is probably carcinogenic to humans.[10] Like many chlorinated hydrocarbons, tetrachloroethylene is a central nervous system depressant and can enter the body through respiratory or dermal exposure.[11] Tetrachloroethylene dissolves fats from the skin, potentially resulting in skin irritation.

Animal studies and a study of 99 twins showed there is a "lot of circumstantial evidence" that exposure to tetrachloroethylene increases the risk of developing Parkinson's disease ninefold. Larger population studies are planned.[12] Also, tetrachloroethylene has been shown to cause liver tumors in mice and kidney tumors in male rats.[13]
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Tetrachloroethylene exposure has been linked to pronounced acquired color vision deficiencies after chronic exposure.[22]
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Tetrachloroethylene is a problematic soil contaminant because its density causes it to sink below the water table, inhibiting cleanup activities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Bromopropane

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In the EU, 1-bromopropane has been classified as reproductive toxicant per Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals, which makes it a "substance of very high concern".[11]
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In 2013, a peer-review panel convened by the U.S. National Toxicology Program unanimously recommended that 1-bromopropane, be classified as reasonably anticipated human carcinogens.[15]
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Reported symptoms of overexposure affect the nervous system and include confusion, slurred speech, dizziness, paresthesias, and difficulty walking, unusual fatigue and headaches, development of arthralgias, visual disturbances (difficulty focusing), and muscle twitching. Symptoms may persist over one year.[9] Other symptoms include irritation of mucous membranes, eyes, upper respiratory tract, and skin, as well as transient loss of consciousness.[7] Loss of feeling in the feet, an example of paresthesia, is colloquially called "dead foot" by workers who suffer from it.[5]
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Animal studies of 1-bromopropane have showed that it is a carcinogen in those models.[7] Rodents exposed to 1-bromopropane developed lung, colon, and skin cancer at higher rates.[6]
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Stratospheric ozone layer damage
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According to United States Environmental Protection Agency, the ODP is 0.013-0.018 in the US latitudes, and between 0.071-0.100 in tropical latitudes.[17]

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 01, 2022, 08:33:31 pm
Since I mentioned the hand dryer over here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/decolonized-housing-(america-edition)/msg10370/#msg10370

and tumble driers above, I should also mention that hair dryers (obviously also of Western origin) are similarly wasteful, as well as unhealthy:

https://headandshoulders.com/en-us/healthy-hair-and-scalp/hair-care/how-blow-drying-hair-damages-your-scalp

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Blow drying is known to damage your hair. The heat from a dryer can disrupt your hair cuticles and can also put the scalp under strain.

Heat damage on your scalp

When you’re blow drying your hair, that’s not all you’re drying out.

When you blow dry your hair, you’re instantly heating the moisture in both your hair and your scalp.

This causes a knock-on effect:

    Water inside the hair fibre can turn to steam and create permanent damage blisters

    The heat can dry out the scalp

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/HairDryer.jpg)

WTF is wrong with Westerners? (Answer: they are Westerners.)

By the way, dress decolonization isn't just about clothes; we can also discuss the inferiority of Western hairstyles here.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 03, 2022, 09:04:21 pm
Let's keep going:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_comb

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A hot comb (also known as a straightening comb or pressing comb) is a metal comb that is used to straighten moderate or coarse hair and create a smoother hair texture.[1] A hot comb is heated and used to straighten the hair from the roots. It can be placed directly on the source of heat or it may be electrically heated.[2]
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Parisian Francois Marcel Grateau is said to have revolutionized hair styling when he invented and introduced heated irons to curl and wave his customers' hair in France in 1872. His Marcel Wave remained fashionable for many decades. Britain's Science and Society Library credits L. Pelleray of Paris with manufacturing the heated irons in the 1870s.[4]
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Potential consequences

It is not uncommon to burn and damage hair when using a traditional hot comb. A hot comb is often heated to over 65 degrees Celsius (149 degrees Fahrenheit), therefore if not careful severe burns and scarring can occur.

The hot petrolatum used with the iron was thought to cause a chronic inflammation around the upper segment of the hair follicle leading to degeneration of the external root sheath.[21]

In 1992, a hot comb alopecia study was conducted, and it was discovered that there was a poor correlation between the usage of a hot comb and the onset and progression of disease. The study concludes that the term follicular degeneration syndrome (FDS) is proposed for this clinically and histologically distinct form of scarring alopecia.[22]
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 07, 2022, 03:25:28 am
https://www.yahoo.com/news/beijing-olympics-ceremonies-uniforms-deemed-231414370.html

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During the medals ceremonies, the Beijing Olympics organizers said that staff will don three designs featuring “traditional Tang dynasty fabrics and other traditional Chinese cultural elements.”

Oh, really?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIAtTxiVcAICfFL?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIAtVaXVgAIF87y?format=jpg&name=large)

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“The dress shows the Chinese charm with modern and simple techniques,” the committee wrote.

No, it doesn't! These are wholly Western clothes in idea, with merely tasteless "Chinese" tourist junk pasted on top! Note the long (leather? certainly not cloth) boots (with high heels for the women - see model furthest to the right of the top picture). Note the sexual dimorphism of the collar (centred for men, left over right for women) and the torso shaping (straight down for men, widening below the waist for women). Note the Santa workshop hats. Note the gloves. Note the puffy sleeves. Note the high jacket cutoff of the model furthest to the left of the top picture. This summarizes how deeply the Eurocentrist rot has eaten into China: that which is actually uniquely Western it normalizes as "modern", while what it calls "Chinese" might as well be a self-insult.

(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)

It would be bad enough if they were consciously deciding to be Western, but this is worse: they cannot get out of the Western framework even when they are trying to!
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: guest55 on January 07, 2022, 09:18:10 pm
Iran claims the "mullet" is a western hairstyle. I would argue that it is not....
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 10, 2022, 01:22:40 am
Success:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-schools-rethink-gender-based-160100723.html

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Texas Schools Rethink Gender-Based Dress Code Policies After Discrimination Claims Raise New Legal Issues

Hope Cozart was perplexed when she received a letter from her son Maddox’s school in April telling her he needed to cut his hair because it was too long. Even so, she obliged: She took Maddox to get a haircut, which consisted of shaved sides with a little more hair left at the top. Cozart would braid or plait her son’s hair to keep it out of his face.

But school officials from the Troy Independent School District, where Maddox was enrolled at Raymond Mays Middle School, outside of Temple, were still unhappy with the new cut. He was disciplined for breaking his school’s dress code, which at the time prohibited male students from wearing their hair in a ponytail, bun or top knot. Maddox was placed in in-school suspension for more than 10 days and later in lunch detention, Cozart said. Her daughter, who had a similar hairstyle, never faced any issues.

Which proves that the dress code was never motivated by practical considerations, but solely by Western expectations of sexual dimorphism accentuation.

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“He was getting pulled out of class daily, sometimes by multiple teachers, and examined like he was an object,” said Cozart, noting that her son is biracial and that his hair style relates to his Black culture.

Cozart’s experience is part of a series of recent conflicts across the state over school dress codes, some of which have turned into civil rights court battles over gender and race.

In the Houston area, a lawsuit filed against Magnolia ISD in October accused the district of violating Title IX and students’ 14th Amendment protections by prohibiting male students from wearing long hair. This month, the district’s school board reached a settlement agreement and voted to eliminate its gender-based policy on hair.

This is a defeat for Western colonialism and a victory for America. I hardly need to remind everyone that in pre-colonial times, long hair (including mullets!) was the American standard for males as well as females:

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This year, the ACLU of Texas has sent at least two complaints to the U.S. Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights concerning male students of Native American heritage being punished for wearing their hair long, which aligns with their cultural and religious beliefs, according to the organization.

Like so many other issues, hairstyle can unite all victims of Western civilization against our common oppressor:

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Mahogane Reed, an attorney with the NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund, said the 2020 case of the Black male students who were disciplined for wearing dreadlocks at Barbers Hill ISD illustrates how sometimes students are caught at an intersection of identities and can be affected by school dress codes that don’t account for cultural intricacies.
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Binary dress codes have also presented a dilemma for LGBTQ and nonbinary students such as Danielle Miller’s fifth grade child, Tristan, who is nonbinary and one of the seven plaintiffs in the lawsuit against Magnolia ISD.

“When I explained that we would have to adhere to a boy’s dress code [to Tristan], it was just met with complete trauma, and I realized that we weren’t going to be cutting their hair and we’re going to have to do everything we had to to go ahead and fight this because it’s not OK,” Miller said during a media briefing with the ACLU.

Finally, let us recall how they used to treat us not so long ago:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalping#Continued_Indian_Wars

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In 1851, the U.S. Army displayed Indian scalps in Stanislaus County, California. In Tehama County, California, U.S. military and local volunteers razed villages and scalped hundreds of men, women, and children.[47]

Scalping also occurred during the Sand Creek Massacre on November 29, 1864, during the American Indian Wars, when a 700-man force of U.S. Army volunteers destroyed the village of Cheyenne and Arapaho in southeastern Colorado Territory, killing and mutilating[48][49] an estimated 70–163 Native Americans.[50][51][52] An 1867 New York Times article reported that "settlers in a small town in Colorado Territory had recently subscribed $5,000 to a fund ‘for the purpose of buying Indian scalps (with $25 each to be paid for scalps with the ears on)’ and that the market for Indian scalps ‘is not affected by age or sex’." The article noted this behavior was "sanctioned" by the U.S. federal government, and was modeled on patterns the U.S. had begun a century earlier in the "American East".[53]: 206 

From one writer's point of view, it was a "uniquely American" innovation that the use of scalp bounties in the wars against indigenous societies "became an indiscriminate killing process that deliberately targeted Indian non-combatants (including women, children, and infants), as well as warriors."[53]: 204  Some American states such as Arizona paid bounty for enemy Native American scalps.[54]

NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.

Related:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-degendering/
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zea_mays on January 11, 2022, 12:09:22 pm
Lol.

The double standard is the point of course, but I will also point out how Boris's hair is at least a departure from the excessive grooming standards of high-maintenance Western hairstyles which were popular from the late 1800s to 1950s.

(https://i.redd.it/5sut3o18k4681.jpg)

In the Romantic era in the mid-1800s, it wasn't uncommon for men to have low-maintenance and "unprofessional" hairstyles:

(https://trueleft.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americancivilwarstory.com%2Fimages%2F311xNxhessler1857.jpg.pagespeed.ic.0BOzv-MQpA.jpg&hash=1beb7e3ff69442b5b4b172689d838b1c9d8c87a6)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/RobertCornelius.jpg/585px-RobertCornelius.jpg)


Boris would appear even less respectable if his hair looked "professional", like this:
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1e/96/58/1e965835658501107ed0177e3fb2c9a5--pomade-hairstyle-men-mens-hairstyle.jpg)

Or this:
(https://trueleft.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.vanityfair.com%2Fphotos%2F55f99f43200c34353591eea7%2Fmaster%2Fpass%2Ft-donald-trump-27-celebrities-hair-color-video.jpg&hash=df9536f51d6dc62c6a6da1f4c4f8f40f2ccd319c)

(https://www.insideedition.com/sites/default/files/images/2020-07/071620_mary_trump_intv_web.jpg)

(https://compote.slate.com/images/0c496dfa-94ab-407d-a0d1-c162851dfb82.jpg)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: bondburger on January 12, 2022, 11:43:48 am
What footwear would you recommend wearing? Especially for if doing lots of walking. At most shoe shops I tend to have difficulty finding boots that are both small enough and leather-free, so I don't have much flexibility getting footwear conventionally (I do have leather-free boots, but they're probably not ideal since they're the only affordable ones I was able to find). Is there a nostalgic approach to this?
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: guest55 on January 13, 2022, 07:48:41 pm
For Americans wouldn't shoes such as the Converse Chuck Taylor All-Stars work?:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/A_classic_Black_pair_of_Converse_All_Stars_resting_on_the_Black_%26_White_Ed._Shoebox_%281998-2002%29.JPG)

Since Converse is now a subsidiary of Nike we can also be sure that none are being sold in Israel anymore....

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Converse started making an early basketball shoe in 1917 and redesigned it in 1922, when Chuck Taylor asked the company to create a better shoe with more support and flexibility. After Converse added Taylor's signature to the ankle patch they became known as Chuck Taylor All Stars. By the 1960s the company had captured about 70 to 80 percent of the basketball shoe market, but the shoe declined in popularity during the 1970s, when more and more basketball players wore other brands of shoes. Chuck Taylor All Stars enjoyed a comeback in popularity in the 1980s as retro-style casual footwear.[3][4]
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Ad from 1920 for the forerunner of the Chuck Taylor All Star, Converse "Non-Skids."

Marquis Mills Converse founded the Converse Rubber Shoe Company in 1908 in Malden, Massachusetts. In 1917 the company designed the forerunner of the modern All Star shoe that it marketed under the name of "Non-Skids." The shoe was composed of a rubber sole and canvas upper and was designed for basketball players.[citation needed]

In 1921, Charles "Chuck" Taylor, an American semi-professional basketball player, joined Converse as a salesman.[5] Within a year of Taylor's arrival, the company had adopted his ideas for improvements to the shoe's design to enhance its flexibility and ankle support. The restyled shoe also incorporated a distinctive All-Star logo on the circular patch that protected the ankle. After Taylor's signature was added to the ankle patch as his endorsement, they became known as Chuck Taylor All Stars, the first celebrity-endorsed athletic shoe.[6][7]

To promote sales of Converse All Star shoes to basketball players, Taylor held basketball clinics in high school and college gyms and YMCAs all across the United States and taught the fundamentals of the game.[8] During the 1926–27 season Taylor also served as a player-manager of the company-sponsored basketball team called the Converse All Stars. The Chicago-based touring team was established to promote sales of the company's All Star basketball shoes.[9]

Numerous professional basketball players were soon wearing All Stars. The shoes also became popular among younger basketball players, including athletes in the Olympic Games and American soldiers in the 1940s. Converse All Stars were the official shoe of the Olympics from 1936 to 1968.[6][10] During World War II All Stars were the official athletic training shoes of the U.S. armed forces.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Taylor_All-Stars

Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: SirGalahad on January 15, 2022, 05:05:55 pm
@Mazda My main issue with Converse is that they're such a pain to put on. Especially the ones that go up to the ankle, like in the picture you showed. I kind of avoid shoes with shoelaces in general. I prefer sandals, shoes with velcro straps, or even the Vans slip-ons, which are very convenient:

(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/image/Vans-Classic-Slip-On-Black-%26-White-Shoes-_266638.jpg)

Maybe I'm just lazy when it comes to shoes, and maybe I'm just overly passionate about a minor annoyance, but I feel like shoelaces were a pointless invention. Plus, if I'm in a hurry, I have to fight to loosen the shoe enough for me to shove my foot into it
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: bondburger on January 15, 2022, 07:27:57 pm
Maybe I'm just lazy when it comes to shoes, and maybe I'm just overly passionate about a minor annoyance, but I feel like shoelaces were a pointless invention. Plus, if I'm in a hurry, I have to fight to loosen the shoe enough for me to shove my foot into it

Completely get your frustrations here, and perhaps this is just me not being great at tying them, but shoelaces coming undone drives me mad. Some laces seem to come undone way too easily and completely interrupt a walk or a run. I get why to have them on walking boots, but on indoor or running shoes... no.
Wearing velcro shoes was the kind of thing you'd get teased for at school in my experience - "you STILL use velcro?". There may well be plenty of advantages that shoelaces do have, but the main motivation for learning them seemed to be looking more mature, doing things the harder cleverer way to show you're not stupid. Very progressive.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 23, 2022, 04:38:20 am
Every time I think our enemies cannot possibly get more obsessed about sexual dimorphism, I am proven wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOBKPQOnKPM
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 12, 2022, 12:55:51 am
Encouraging signs:

https://us.yahoo.com/lifestyle/jade-jewelry-became-symbol-hope-180800477.html

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I recall growing up with peers who deemed jade outdated and aging. When I was a teen, it wasn't exactly cool to wear a Buddha on the traditional red string, or a circular Bi disc pendant. (We used to jokingly call them Lifesavers, but it’s actually a classic shape that dates back to the Neolithic era and symbolizes heaven.) Jade was what your grandmother or elderly aunts would wear. At its most extreme, wearing the stone suggested you were not properly assimilated — a terrifying thought for a kid facing strong social pressure to adopt the customs and aesthetics of the dominant American culture. But while my friends may have failed to see the value in jade during our teens, it's undeniably back.
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“I’m half Chinese and third-generation, so I used to associate the stone with older women. I always assumed I wasn't ‘Chinese enough’ to wear it. As I have become more confident in my background, my jade jewelry has even more meaning for me. It’s something I wear proudly that announces my heritage.”

Actually, jade is also American:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_use_in_Mesoamerica

so wearing it doesn't make you more Chinese but less American; it makes you more Chinese and simultaneously more American. Jade should really be another medium to help America and China feel closer to each other (especially in opposition to our former common colonizers).

American jade:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Claw_Ornament_MET_DP-12761-011.jpg/464px-Claw_Ornament_MET_DP-12761-011.jpg)

Chinese jade:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/%E8%B1%AC%E9%BE%8D%E7%8E%A6_%E7%B4%85%E5%B1%B1%E7%90%89%E7%92%83_%E7%8E%89%E8%80%8C%E5%AF%8C_997.jpg)

Homo Hubris jewellry:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Anonymous_Filigree_pendant.jpg/452px-Anonymous_Filigree_pendant.jpg)

Exercise: find the odd one out.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 12, 2022, 10:32:31 pm
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220311-leftist-gabriel-boric-the-president-breaking-new-ground-in-chile

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Whether refusing to wear a tie, shunning the upscale neighborhoods of Chile's political elites or naming a majority woman cabinet, Boric has already shown his presidency will be a clean break from what has come before in the South American country.
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while he has adopted jackets, he shuns ties and makes no attempt to hide his tattoos.

Well done for not wearing a tie, but I hope he can take it a step further and instead of a Western jacket wear something like this:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Artesania_Chilena_-_Manta_Mapuche.jpg/1024px-Artesania_Chilena_-_Manta_Mapuche.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poncho

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Ponchos have been used by the Native American peoples of the Andes and Patagonia since pre-Hispanic times, from places now under the territory of Ecuador, Colombia, Chile, Bolivia, Peru, and Argentina and are now considered typical South American garments.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on March 19, 2022, 12:10:22 am
Palestinian wedding in Sarasota, FL:
https://youtu.be/lF44-6vlhns
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 20, 2022, 08:33:32 pm
A small victory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnZheLCcd7Y

I don't think he should have worn a Western suit, though.....
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 24, 2022, 03:12:37 am
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/supreme-court-confirmation-hearings-ketanji-brown-jackson-feature-something-new-ncna1292354

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Ketanji Brown Jackson's dreadlocks are changing the face of American justice
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As Jackson’s image circulates, some observers, most notably other Black women, have called attention to something that might at first seem superficial: her hairstyling. She looks especially familiar to those of us, women and men alike, who belong to what some call the “natural hair community.” And Jackson’s hair doesn’t stand out because of its texture alone; the locked style makes a particularly strong statement.

While hair seems trivial and we may be reluctant to add to the scrutiny women endure over their appearances, the reality is that women and men have both been expected to follow norms about dress and grooming and to make strategic choices about outfits, accessories and hair color.
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The 17th century tradition of judges’ and lawyers’ donning white horsehair wigs in the U.K. and some former colonies, for instance, has been partly preserved. It is welcomed by some as a uniform that epitomizes the idea that justice is blind, while others link the practice to antiquated customs ill-suited to modern society, not to mention warmer climates. Either way, these issues raise questions about how we think servants of the court ought to present themselves.
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Jackson is a child of the ’70s, and her natural hair reflects the sentiments of the Black is Beautiful movement and the more recent Natural Hair Movement that combine personal style with politics. Many of us see the beauty of Black natural hair. We also see its supreme power.

(https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NL7UKO32JVHRHAF2U46RRVNGUU.jpg)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on April 28, 2022, 11:23:42 pm
A picture says a thousand words:
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/08/13/USAT/92d486f6-4480-4179-a50a-c3067cfccd96-AFP_AFP_18C20P.JPG)

But alas, Kim has ultimately succumbed to Eurocentrism, supposedly for "diplomatic outreach":
https://youtu.be/XWNKRLHIzVA
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 29, 2022, 12:12:35 am
While the non-tie suit is of course preferable, we should continue to criticize its remaining Western elements, such as the folded collar (designwise identical to the folded shirt collar on the right). Here is an anecdote to learn from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_(tunic)

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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Lenin%27s_frech_%281920s%2C_GIM%29_01_by_shakko.jpg/800px-Lenin%27s_frech_%281920s%2C_GIM%29_01_by_shakko.jpg)

French (Russian: френч) was the designation of a particular type of military jacket or tunic in the Russian Empire and later in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokumin-fuku

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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Kokumin-Fuku.JPG)

The Kokumin-fuku (国民服) (literally: "national uniform") was the European-style men's civil attire introduced in Japan in 1940 during World War II.[1][2]

Its similarity to a military uniform was one of the reasons for heavy casualties among Japanese civilians when the Soviet army attacked in 1945.[3]

Also, just the other day I was explaining in a private discussion the engineering inferiority of Western sew-on buttons:

(https://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2017/09/Sew-Button-2.jpg)

With repeated buttoning and unbuttoning, the thread attaching the button to the fabric gradually loosens more and more until the button ultimately falls off and has to be re-attached. This never happens with the superior engineering of buttoning using part of the fabric itself:

(https://i0.wp.com/aliceincosplayland.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/how-to-chinese-button-knot.png?fit=683%2C1024&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zhang Caizhi on April 29, 2022, 04:15:19 am
I see that service dress uniform for military and other public uniformed services in many countries use neckties.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_dress_uniform
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on April 29, 2022, 07:19:16 am
I agree. For reference, this is the actual Zhongshan tunic:
(https://www.dragonsports.eu/117761-verylarge_default/zhong-shan-uniform.jpg)
Note the lack of buttons/folded collars.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 29, 2022, 10:19:32 pm
This same principle of not adding foreign objects to construction is also seen in:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dougong

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The use of dougong first appeared in buildings of the late centuries BC and evolved into a structural network that joined pillars and columns to the frame of the roof. Dougong was widely used by the ancient Chinese during the Spring and Autumn period (770–476 BC) and developed into a complex set of interlocking parts by its peak in the Tang and Song periods. The pieces are fitted together by joinery alone without glue or fasteners, requiring precise carpentry.

https://cutthewood.com/featured/ancient-chinese-woodworking-without-nails/

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Chinese architects and Chinese woodworkers have used mortise-and-tenon joints so pieces of wood are joined together. A rectangle-to-rectangle tenon,  square-to-square or “peg” fitted into a “hole” or mortise, or “hole” were some of the techniques used. It is crucial to carve the dimensions of the tenon precisely yo mirror the mortise so the two will successfully fit together.

As an ultimate rule, screws, and nails have never been used in any stage of the process. Indeed, history has proven that the creation of furniture pieces with nails and screws tend to wobble, unlike furniture pieces that were precisely joined using mortise and tenon, wherein individually carved pieces fit quickly into one another.
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Not to mention, the joining of the wood in this way creates a corresponding tension in the beam and does not create possible flaws in the cutting planes that may be present with other glue joining techniques.
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The nails and screws hold the wood quickly, allowing a small movement that eventually breaks the wood around the metal fastener. The movement of the wood, the humidity and the deterioration of the glue eventually loosen any glued wooden board.

When done correctly, projects made entirely of wood can last as long as wood, which can be more than a thousand years.

When you hammer a nail or screw a screw into a piece of wood, you are adulterating the wood. Anyone who is willing to adulterate the very material they are trying to build with should not be allowed to build anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nail_(fastener)#History

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The Bible provides a number of references to nails, including the story in Judges of Jael the wife of Heber, who drives a nail (or tent-peg) into the temple of a sleeping Canaanite commander;[3] the provision of iron for nails by King David for what would become Solomon's Temple;[4] and in connection with the crucifixion of Christ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw#History

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The metal screw did not become a common fastener until machine tools for their mass production were developed toward the end of the 18th century. This development blossomed in the 1760s and 1770s[54] along two separate paths that soon converged:[55] the mass production of wood screws (meaning screws made of metal to be used in wood) in a specialized, single-purpose, high-volume-production machine tool; and the low-count, toolroom-style production of machine screws (V-thread) with easy selection among various pitches (whatever the machinist happened to need on any given day).

The first path was pioneered by brothers Job and William Wyatt of Staffordshire, UK,[56] who patented in 1760 a machine that we might today best call a screw machine of an early and prescient sort. It made use of a leadscrew to guide the cutter to produce the desired pitch,[56] and the slot was cut with a rotary file while the main spindle held still (presaging live tools on lathes 250 years later). Not until 1776 did the Wyatt brothers have a wood-screw factory up and running.[56] Their enterprise failed, but new owners soon made it prosper, and in the 1780s they were producing 16,000 screws a day with only 30 employees[57]—the kind of industrial productivity and output volume that would later be characteristic of modern industry but was revolutionary at the time.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on April 30, 2022, 02:05:41 am
Another thing I wanted to mention about the Kim picture is the face shapes. While Kim may not be the most Aryan looking guy, Moon has an undeniably Gentillic face shape.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 13, 2022, 09:10:14 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/am-choosing-literally-wear-chinese-130036049.html

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a memory of my first job as a community organizer in San Francisco in the spring of 2002. “Racist fashion’s got to go!” I chanted, assembled with hundreds of Asian American protesters on Market Street. We raised our voices against retailer Abercrombie & Fitch for releasing a series of graphic tees with Asian stereotypes, like “Wong Brothers Laundry Service ― Two Wongs Can Make it White” and “Buddha Bash ― Get Your Buddha on the Floor.”

Then, too, my parents told me — in equal parts pride and worry — to keep them posted on our campaign. “Stay safe outside on the streets,” they said.

The risk of asserting myself felt urgent back then. And, today, I’ve decided anew that being nondescript and subtle will not protect me. The truth is, just showing my face in America has been enough to make me a target for harassment or attack on the street in the middle of the day. I’ve decided I’m acting on a conscious dare of standing firm in my identity, not shrinking from it. I’m resisting my vulnerability with visibility.
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Recently I’ve made another, more surprising, sartorial choice: I started searching online for vintage Chinese dresses and integrating them into my at-home ensembles and my emerging post-pandemic wardrobe. A cheongsam, translated as “long dress” in Cantonese, is a sheath dress with a high mandarin collar and asymmetrical opening fastened by interlocking knotted buttons and loops of hua niu, or flower buttons. In my cheongsams, I can put myself together even when I feel fragmented, struggling to process being both Chinese and American in a country that has always had anti-Asian racism coursing through its veins.

I’ve acquired 15 of these iconic dresses from secondhand shops, boutiques and vintage stores. Each figures prominently in my power-up wardrobe, making a conscious statement about my heritage, my culture, my visibility and my pride.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/BjOV6yJIhGJsX8tNSl0hLw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTk0MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/qbrLkcpcdG.rNOMc73XeKw--~B/aD04NDA7dz02MzA7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_huffington_post_584/b188dd745be88242997fdf52255bc653)

Thank you for at least making an effort. However, note that the dresses you bought are already Westernized versions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheongsam#History

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The predecessor of the more well known qipao resembled the men’s changpao. The changpao was a long gown commonly associated with the male literati class. The first 1920s iteration was androgynous and had a “wide, angular and puritanical cut”[8]

In other words, the original versions were low in sexual dimorphism. But then:

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According to the Clothing Regulations, the cheongsam needed to be worn with trousers and be calf-length, but with the introduction of Western fashion many people replaced trousers with stockings and added matching accessories. The side slits were re-purposed into an aesthetic design reaching the top of the thighs to reflect the new fashion trend. By the 1940s, trousers had completely fallen out of use, replaced by different type of hosiery. High-heeled shoes were another fashion trend introduced to Shanghai at the same time, and it became an essential part of cheongsam fashion set, which continued into modern days.[13] As trend of hosiery in turn declined in later decades, women started to wear cheongsam more commonly with bare legs. While this development settled the cheongsam as a one-piece dress, by contrast, the related Vietnamese áo dài retained trousers.

The modernized version of cheongsam is noted for accentuating the figures of women, and as such was popular as a dress for high society. As Western fashions evolved, so does the cheongsam design, with introduction of high-necked sleeveless dresses, bell-like sleeves, and the black lace frothing at the hem of a ball gown. By the 1940s, cheongsam came in a wide variety of fabrics with an equal variety of accessories.

Westernization leads to increased sexual dimorphism every time.

Before Westernization:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Traditional_Chinese_costume_01.jpg/1280px-Traditional_Chinese_costume_01.jpg)

After Westernization:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Red_qipao.jpg/682px-Red_qipao.jpg)

See the difference?

If you are serious about decolonizing your wardrobe, go for the pre-Westernized versions!

Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 15, 2022, 11:37:14 pm
Let's talk about yet another uniquely Western inferiority:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_polish

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As leather with a high natural veneer became popular in the 18th century, a high glossy finish became important, particularly on shoes and boots. In most cases, homemade polishes were used to provide this finish, often with lanolin or beeswax as a base.[citation needed]

In the late 18th and early 19th century many forms of shoe polish became available, yet were rarely referred to as shoe polish or boot polish. Instead, they were often called blacking, especially when mixed with lampblack, or still were referred to as dubbin. Tallow, an animal by-product, was used to manufacture a simple form of shoe polish at this time. Chicago, where 82% of the processed meat consumed in the United States was processed in the stock yards, became a major shoe polish producing area.[5]

In London the Warren brothers, Thomas and Jonathan, started making blacking around 1795–98, initially in partnership and then with competing companies. Jonathan Warren's Blacking company is noted as the first employer of the young Charles Dickens aged 12 in 1823.[6] The competitor to the Warren companies in London is the Day & Martin company formed in 1801.[7]
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Other early leather preserving products included the Irish brand Punch, which was first made in 1851. In 1889, an English man by the name of William Edward Wren, started making shoe polishes and dubbin under the brand name Wren's. In just 3 years, he won the “First in the Field – First Award Leather Trades Exhibition 1892″ award which was awarded by the Leather Trades Exhibition held in Northampton, the centre of Britain’s boot making industry. This signified the importance and prestige of the exhibition in the trade and was a recognition of Wren's quality. In 1890 the Kroner Brothers established EOS, a shoe polish factory in Berlin, which serviced the Prussian military. It finally closed in 1934 when the Nazis forbade Jews to operate a business.[10]

Hail Hitler! Seriously, somehow every other civilization in history managed fine without shoe polish for thousands of years, and then Western civilization just had to introduce this totally unnecessary item into existence, and then worst of all manage to convince the rest of the world (or at least the Eurocentrists among them, who were unfortunately the majorities everywhere) that they needed it:

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Shoe polish was to be found just about everywhere Allied troops ventured.[17] American war correspondent Walter Graeber wrote for TIME magazine from the Tobruk trenches in 1942 that "old tins of British-made Kiwi polish lay side by side with empty bottles of Chianti."[18] A story indicative of the rise in global significance of shoe polish is told by Jean (Gertrude) Williams, a New Zealander who lived in Japan during the Allied occupation straight after World War II. American soldiers were then finding the dullness of their boots and shoes to be a handicap when trying to win the affections of Japanese women.[14] U.S. military footwear of the time was produced in brown leather with the rough side out.

When the British Commonwealth Occupation Forces arrived in Japan—all with boots polished to a degree not known in the U.S. forces—the G.I.s were more conscious than ever of their feet. The secret was found to rest not only in spit and polish, but in the superior Australian boot polish, a commodity which was soon exchanged with the Americans on a fluctuating basis of so many packets of cigarettes for one can of Kiwi boot polish.[citation needed]

Sigh.....

http://www.herc.org/library/msds/shoepolish.htm

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Carcinogenicity - NTP: YES
Carcinogenicity - IARC: YES
Carcinogenicity - OSHA: YES
DYES HAVE BEEN FOUND TO INDUCE CANCER IN LABORATORY ANIMALS DURING LONG-
TERM FEEDING STUDIES OF DYE.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Zea_mays on July 19, 2022, 09:29:45 am
At least Westerners don't do this anymore:
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Breeching was the occasion when a small boy was first dressed in breeches or trousers. From the mid-16th century[1] until the late 19th or early 20th century, young boys in the Western world were unbreeched and wore gowns or dresses until an age that varied between two and eight.[2] Various forms of relatively subtle differences usually enabled others to tell little boys from little girls, in codes that modern art historians are able to understand but may be difficult to discern for the layperson.

Breeching was an important rite of passage in the life of a boy, looked forward to with much excitement, and often celebrated with a small party. It often marked the point at which the father became more involved with the raising of a boy.
[...]
In the 19th century, photographs were often taken of the boy in his new trousers, typically with his father. He might also collect small gifts of money by going round the neighbourhood showing off his new clothes. Friends, of the mother as much as the boy, might gather to see his first appearance. A letter of 1679 from Lady Anne North to her widowed and absent son gives a lengthy account of the breeching of her grandson
[...]
In England and some other countries, many school uniforms still mandate shorts for boys until about nine or ten.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeching_(boys)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Franklin-Roosevelt-1884.jpg)
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Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1884, at the age of 2.


On the other hand, they still have gendered pink and blue baby clothes...
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 16, 2022, 04:25:36 pm
Eurocentrist police stupidity:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wrong-anything-anime-fan-china-233612326.html

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Anime fan in China says she was interrogated by police for wearing kimono
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In a video that purportedly shows her encounter with officers, an officer shouts at the woman, questioning her identity.

“If you come here wearing Hanfu, I wouldn’t say this. But you are wearing a kimono, as a Chinese person. You are a Chinese! Are you?” the officer shouts at the woman.

Meanwhile, "Chinese" government officials regularly wear Western dress while on duty officially representing China FFS:

(https://trueleft.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fenglish.www.gov.cn%2Frw%2FPub%2FGOV%2Fp1%2FContent%2FNews%2FImages%2F2017%2F10%2F25%2Fxi960b.jpg&hash=6bf00af5b926bca161090b738a4e3971fc8c388a)

but the police don't go after them for it. Yet a civilian is arrested for wearing Japanese dress in her own time?! Why the double-standard? (Answer: pervasive Eurocentrism.)

The truth is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimono

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The first instances of kimono-like garments in Japan were traditional Chinese clothing introduced to Japan via Chinese envoys in the Kofun period (300 – 538 CE; the first part of the Yamato period), with immigration between the two countries and envoys to the Tang dynasty court leading to Chinese styles of dress, appearance and culture becoming extremely popular in Japanese court society.[1] The Imperial Japanese court quickly adopted Chinese styles of dress and clothing,[6]
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In 718 CE, the Yoro clothing code was instituted, which stipulated that all robes had to be overlapped at the front with a left-to-right closure, following typical Chinese fashions.[9]: 133–136 

To not positively welcome ancient Japanese dress in China is to be ashamed of ancient Chinese cultural influence.

(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)

Yes, I know Japan was part of the:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-Nation_Alliance

but that was post-Meiji Japan. And guess what (back to previous link):

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During the Meiji period, the opening of Japan to Western trade after the enclosure of the Edo period led to a drive towards Western dress as a sign of "modernity". After an edict by Emperor Meiji,[citation needed] policemen, railroad workers and teachers moved to wearing Western clothing within their job roles, with the adoption of Western clothing by men in Japan happening at a much greater pace than by women. Initiatives such as the Tokyo Women's & Children's Wear Manufacturers' Association (東京婦人子供服組合) promoted Western dress as everyday clothing.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/shimabara-rebellion-the-christian-revolt-that-isolated-medieval-japan/msg13812/#msg13812

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/shimabara-rebellion-the-christian-revolt-that-isolated-medieval-japan/msg13827/#msg13827

The best way to express disapproval towards post-Meiji Japan is to celebrate pre-Meiji Japan.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 16, 2022, 06:13:56 pm
Nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooK5mGeJdqs
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 19, 2022, 07:42:05 pm
How sartorially colonized was pre-1979 Iran?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashion_in_Iran

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Attempts at changing dress norms (and perspectives toward it) occurred in mid-1930s when pro-Western ruler Reza Shah issued a decree banning all veils.[9][10][11][12][13] Many types of male traditional clothing were also banned.[14][15][16]
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A far larger escalation of violence occurred in the summer of 1935 when Reza Shah ordered all men to wear European-style bowler hat, which was Western par excellence. This provoked massive non-violent demonstrations in July in the city of Mashhad.[19][10][12][14][15][16][20]
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Later, official measures relaxed slightly under next ruler and wearing of the headscarf or chador was no longer an offence, but for his regime it became a significant hindrance to climbing the social ladder as it was considered a badge of backwardness and an indicator of being a member of the lower class.[17]

(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)

In Iran, headscarfs are leftist:

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A few years prior to the Iranian revolution, a tendency towards questioning the relevance of Eurocentric gender roles as the model for Iranian society gained much ground among university students, and this sentiment was manifested in street demonstrations where many women from the non-veiled middle classes put on the veil[9][17][10][22][23] and symbolically rejected the gender ideology of Pahlavi regime and its aggressive deculturalization.[9][17][10][11][23] Wearing of headscarf and chador was one of main symbols of the 1979 revolution,[10][11][24][23] Wearing headscarves and chadors was used as a significant populist tool and Iranian veiled women played an important rule in the revolution's victory.[17][11][13]

Present-day False Leftists outside of Iran seem to have no awareness of this historical context. If you support the anti-headscarf protestors in Iran, you are supporting Eurocentrism!

And one more thing about Reza Eurocentrist Pahlavi:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Shah

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Reza Shah was the first Iranian Monarch in 1400 years who paid respect to the Jews by praying in the synagogue when visiting the Jewish community of Isfahan; an act that boosted the self-esteem of the Iranian Jews and made Reza Shah their second most respected Iranian leader after Cyrus the Great.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/iran/msg15794/#msg15794

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/iran/msg15960/#msg15960
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: SirGalahad on October 20, 2022, 12:35:44 am
While in general I still support the current Iranian regime, I can’t help but feel that they deserve these protests in a way. Women in Iran should be allowed to not wear a hijab without fear of the mistreatment, cruelty or harassment that I’ve both read about and seen lately, because that choice is ultimately a non-violent one. I think that Iran is partially responsible for ruining its own image in the same way that the Eurocentric clown Xi Jinping doesn’t do China any favors either. While both of those countries have dealt with intense western smear campaigns, I think that Iran would be in a better position in terms of PR if the regime had made an attempt to stamp out some of the attitudes and behaviors that sparked this protest in the first place
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: guest63 on October 20, 2022, 01:52:29 am
How sartorially colonized was pre-1979 Iran?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashion_in_Iran

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Attempts at changing dress norms (and perspectives toward it) occurred in mid-1930s when pro-Western ruler Reza Shah issued a decree banning all veils.[9][10][11][12][13] Many types of male traditional clothing were also banned.[14][15][16]
...
A far larger escalation of violence occurred in the summer of 1935 when Reza Shah ordered all men to wear European-style bowler hat, which was Western par excellence. This provoked massive non-violent demonstrations in July in the city of Mashhad.[19][10][12][14][15][16][20]
...
Later, official measures relaxed slightly under next ruler and wearing of the headscarf or chador was no longer an offence, but for his regime it became a significant hindrance to climbing the social ladder as it was considered a badge of backwardness and an indicator of being a member of the lower class.[17]

(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)

In Iran, headscarfs are leftist:

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A few years prior to the Iranian revolution, a tendency towards questioning the relevance of Eurocentric gender roles as the model for Iranian society gained much ground among university students, and this sentiment was manifested in street demonstrations where many women from the non-veiled middle classes put on the veil[9][17][10][22][23] and symbolically rejected the gender ideology of Pahlavi regime and its aggressive deculturalization.[9][17][10][11][23] Wearing of headscarf and chador was one of main symbols of the 1979 revolution,[10][11][24][23] Wearing headscarves and chadors was used as a significant populist tool and Iranian veiled women played an important rule in the revolution's victory.[17][11][13]

Present-day False Leftists outside of Iran seem to have no awareness of this historical context. If you support the anti-headscarf protestors in Iran, you are supporting Eurocentrism!

And one more thing about Reza Eurocentrist Pahlavi:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Shah

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Reza Shah was the first Iranian Monarch in 1400 years who paid respect to the Jews by praying in the synagogue when visiting the Jewish community of Isfahan; an act that boosted the self-esteem of the Iranian Jews and made Reza Shah their second most respected Iranian leader after Cyrus the Great.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/iran/msg15794/#msg15794

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/iran/msg15960/#msg15960

Not surprised at Reza Shah, but he was better than his son and even tried to align with NS Germany.

Didn't you used to support Reza Shah over his son? I remember in the "National Socialism and Islam" article on Aryanism, the Shah of Iran was deposed by the UK and the USSR for aligning with NS Germany.

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Iran

The Shah of Iran was pro-Axis during WWII. (“The sound of German officers’ footsteps was heard on the shores of the Nile. Swastika flags were flying from the outskirts of Moscow to the peaks of the Caucasus Mountains. Iranian patriots eagerly awaited the arrival of their old allies.”)
Britain and the USSR forced the Shah to abdicate in favour of his son.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 20, 2022, 02:09:06 am
"that choice is ultimately a non-violent one"

If I choose to eat at a restaurant with an explicitly stated dress code, my duty to follow the dress code is in exchange for the expectation of seeing everyone else in the restaurant also follow the dress code (thereby collectively generating a particular visual look). This is non-violent.

Now, if someone shows up not following the dress code, while they are not preventing me from following the dress code myself, they are depriving me of seeing the visual look generated by everyone in the restaurant following the dress code, which is what I was expecting to get in exchange for following the dress code myself. This is violent.

Compare with speeding drivers. They may claim they are not violent because they are not forcing other drivers to speed. Yet they are depriving other drivers of road conditions where everyone drives below the speed limit, which is what the other drivers were expecting to get in exchange for driving below the speed limit themselves. Thus those who drive over the speed limit are indeed violent.

Someone who dislikes a given dress code/speed limit should choose a different restaurant/road:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/iran/msg15768/#msg15768

This is conducive to folkish sorting. Absence of different rules in different locations, on the other hand, undermines folkish sorting.

(Homework: Are usurers violent?)

"he was better than his son"

I will be posting about his son shortly.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: guest63 on October 20, 2022, 03:46:03 am
"If I choose to eat at a restaurant with an explicitly stated dress code, my duty to follow the dress code is in exchange for the expectation of seeing everyone else in the restaurant also follow the dress code (thereby collectively generating a particular visual look). This is non-violent.

Now, if someone shows up not following the dress code, while they are not preventing me from following the dress code myself, they are depriving me of seeing the visual look generated by everyone in the restaurant following the dress code, which is what I was expecting to get in exchange for following the dress code myself. This is violent.

Compare with speeding drivers. They may claim they are not violent because they are not forcing other drivers to speed. Yet they are depriving other drivers of road conditions where everyone drives below the speed limit, which is what the other drivers were expecting to get in exchange for driving below the speed limit themselves. Thus those who drive over the speed limit are indeed violent.

Someone who dislikes a given dress code/speed limit should choose a different restaurant/road:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/iran/msg15768/#msg15768

This is conducive to folkish sorting. Absence of different rules in different locations, on the other hand, undermines folkish sorting."

Exactly! It's that easy!

I would love to see a revival of Authentic Zoroastrianism in a place like Australia or New Zealand.

(Homework: Are usurers violent?)

"I will be posting about his son shortly."

To be fair, Khomeini wasn't too much better (he protected Jews and was funded by Israel!), but he did stand up to the USA and the USSR. Alhamdulillah, Khamenei is better than Khomeini though, especially with the loss of Saddam Hussein.

Saddam Hussein stood up to Israel more, and ultimately was brutally crushed.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 20, 2022, 04:31:28 am
"Khomeini wasn't too much better"

Before:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_relations#Israeli_independence_to_Iranian_revolution_(1947%E2%80%931979)

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After the establishment of the State of Israel in May 1948, Israel and Iran maintained close ties. Iran was the second Muslim-majority country to recognize Israel[15] as a sovereign state after Turkey.[16][17] Israel viewed Iran as a natural ally as a non-Arab power on the edge of the Arab world, in accordance with David Ben Gurion's concept of an alliance of the periphery.

After:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_relations#Under_Khomeini_(1979%E2%80%931989)

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Following the Iranian Revolution and the fall of the Pahlavi dynasty in 1979, Iran adopted a sharp anti-Israel stance. Iran cut off all official relations with Israel;[29] official statements, state institutes, and events. Iran ceased to accept Israeli passports, and the holders of Iranian passports were banned from travelling to "the occupied Palestine"’.[30] The Israeli Embassy in Tehran was closed and handed over to the PLO.[31] Ayatollah Khomeini declared Israel an "enemy of Islam" and the "Little Satan".[32]

Is this not a significant improvement?

"he did stand up to the USA and the USSR."

If anything, Khomeini's mistake was to be unnecessarily hostile to the USA, thus pushing it closer to Israel. Khomeini made the same mistake with the USA back then as Biden is making with China now (pushing it closer to Russia).
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 26, 2022, 05:42:54 pm
The ultimate motivation of the anti-regime protests is Eurocentrism:

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(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/180A0/production/_105646489_af25d716-f4b9-41d5-b2a3-7126c8298057.jpg.webp)

Wedding dress shopping in Tehran in 1986: "The wedding dresses on display are all western

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_dress#Western_culture

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The first documented instance of a princess who wore a white wedding dress for a royal wedding ceremony is that of Philippa of England, who wore a tunic with a cloak in white silk bordered with squirrel and ermine in 1406, when she married Eric of Pomerania.[1][2]
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White became a popular option in 1840, after the marriage of Queen Victoria to Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, when Victoria wore a white gown trimmed with Honiton lace. Illustrations of the wedding were widely published, and many brides opted for white in accordance with the Queen's choice.[6]

What was happening in Iran during the Victorian era?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93United_Kingdom_relations

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In fact, Iran's current southern and eastern boundaries were determined by none other than the British during the Anglo-Persian War (1856 to 1857). After repelling Nasereddin Shah's attack in Herat in 1857, the British government assigned Frederic John Goldsmid of the Indo-European Telegraph Department to determine the borders between Persia and India during the 1860s.[5]

In 1872, the Shah signed an agreement with Baron Julius de Reuter, which George Nathaniel Curzon called "The most complete and extraordinary surrender of the entire industrial resources of a kingdom into foreign hands that has ever been dreamed of".[6]

And yes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederic_John_Goldsmid

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Categories:
...
British people of Dutch-Jewish descent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Reuter

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Reuter was born as Israel Beer Josaphat in Kassel, Electorate of Hesse (now part of the Federal Republic of Germany).[4] His father, Samuel Levi Josaphat, was a rabbi.
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In November 1891, Queen Victoria granted him (and his subsequent male-line successors) the right to use that German title (listed as Baron von Reuter) in Britain.[1][10]
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Soulbadger on October 28, 2022, 12:34:11 pm
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Reuter was born as Israel Beer Josaphat in Kassel, Electorate of Hesse (now part of the Federal Republic of Germany).[4] His father, Samuel Levi Josaphat, was a rabbi.
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In November 1891, Queen Victoria granted him (and his subsequent male-line successors) the right to use that German title (listed as Baron von Reuter) in Britain.[1][10]

Example of Jews tainting a great last name: (Minus the 'rider' part of course, lol!)
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(German) One who cleared land for tilling.
— Dictionary of American Family Names (1956) by Elsdon Coles Smith
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Rutter or Roter, is the name of an ancient and influential family of Kingsley, where they owned considerable estates from the 13th to the 17th century (O.). The name of Rutter is now best represented amongst the farmers around Tarporley, which is only some seven or eight miles from Kingsley, so that we may repeat the remark made by Ormerod about 70 years ago "that the descendants are still living (as yeomen) and day labourers within the precincts of the feudal power of their ancestors." The name is also established in the counties of Northumberland, Durham, and Lincoln, and in the North and East Ridings of Yorkshire. As Rotar, Rotur, and Ruter, often preceded by "Le," it occurred in Shropshire, Oxfordshire, Hertfordshire, and in other counties in the 13th century (H. R.). Rutter is the old German word for a soldier (L.).
https://forebears.io/surnames/reuter#meaning

Back to the Iran topic:
Iran says it won’t remain ‘indifferent’ if Russian use of its drones is proven
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As West says evidence mounting of Moscow-Tehran military alliance, Iran’s FM claims he’s ‘against arming both Russia and Ukraine’
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“I stressed to Mr. Borrell that if… it becomes clear to us that Russia has used Iranian drones in the war against Ukraine, we will definitely not be indifferent about this issue.”
Entire article: https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-it-wont-remain-indifferent-if-russian-use-of-its-drones-is-proven/?utm_campaign=most_popular&utm_source=website&utm_medium=article_end
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Soulbadger on October 28, 2022, 12:35:57 pm
Going to repost that last part in the Iran thread, didn't realize we were in a different thread here at first...
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 02, 2022, 07:35:36 pm
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/chemical-hair-straighteners-study-black-women-rcna54126

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Racism kills, and a new study on the potentially harmful effects of chemical hair straighteners has shown the paradox many nonwhite people face when forced to conform to white beauty standards.

Late last week, the National Institutes of Health released findings from a study that suggested women who use chemical hair straighteners could have a higher risk of developing uterine cancer than those who do not use them.

As NBC News reported:

    Women using chemical hair-straightening products are at a higher risk of uterine cancer than women who reported not using them, a new study by the National Institutes of Health found. Researchers noted that Black women may have a higher risk because they are more likely to use such products more frequently. A group of researchers with the NIH’s National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences looked at the hair care habits of more than 33,000 women and found that those who used chemical hair straightening products at least four times a year were more than twice as likely to develop uterine cancer.

Studies like this are precisely why activists and lawmakers have been demanding full passage of the Crown Act, a federal bill that would ban discrimination based on hair style and texture. The House passed the bill in March, but the Senate hasn't yet voted on it.

Conservatives like Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert, who mocked the Crown Act as the “bad hair bill,” have, ironically, made the argument for its necessity with their insulting actions.

Rest assured: Many Black people know not to take style advice from oppressive white folks like Boebert. But because people like her wield outsize influence in American society, many Black folks are forced to conform to a look they wouldn’t be caught dead wearing otherwise, just to gain access to jobs, competitive schools and anything else that could be kept from them.

It's what inspired me, in 2019, to create Black Hair Defined, a multimedia project designed to celebrate Black hairstyles, highlight their cultural significance, and encourage the Black people wearing them to reject claims about these styles’ inferiority.

Thank you!

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Mandating or encouraging Black people to comb out their hair kinks could put them in harm's way — both mentally and physically. Ultimately, it’s a sick offer to make: “Black folks, you may be accepted into our exclusive groups if you agree to cover your head in cancer-causing chemicals. And to our liking, please — you know how we feel about frizz.”

This new study reinforces the very real dangers posed by hair discrimination. The Crown Act is needed now more than ever.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 08, 2022, 05:11:00 pm
Mainstream journalism beginning to perceive what we perceive:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cop27-leaders-dress-business-egypt-194629724.html

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For the official group photo at the opening ceremony on Monday, political leaders and representatives from 190 countries posed in their best formal suits to debate climate change adaptation, climate finance, decarbonization, agriculture and biodiversity over the next week.
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a majority of the leaders opted for the safe, classic suit in black, navy and gray.

The standouts at the summit were the leaders from the Arabian Peninsula and African continent wearing traditional dress from their native countries.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/EvBPfXtQAK7NExhR6RdHgg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTYzNztjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/wwd_409/f82e7005aa162e543f898f62a5139d57)
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“It seems the western world is out-of-date, in stark contrast to those who are clearly proud of their culture.”

This is the kind of article we need more of.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 11, 2023, 06:53:25 pm
While the main theme of this topic is to get former victims of Western colonialism to stop dressing like their colonizers, another aspect is to get the colonialists to stop wearing our stuff:

https://www.allure.com/story/gwen-stefani-japanese-harajuku-lovers-interview

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Gwen Stefani: "I Said, 'My God, I'm Japanese'"
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"I said, 'My God, I'm Japanese and I didn't know it.'" As those words seemed to hang in the air between us, she continued, "I am, you know." She then explained that there is "innocence" to her relationship with Japanese culture, referring to herself as a "super fan."

"If [people are] going to criticize me for being a fan of something beautiful and sharing that, then I just think that doesn't feel right," she told me. "I think it was a beautiful time of creativity… a time of the ping-pong match between Harajuku culture and American culture."
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I am a woman who has been called racial slurs because of her appearance, feared for her father’s safety as he traveled with her on New York City subways, and boiled with anger as grandparents were being attacked and killed because they were Asian. I envy anyone who can claim to be part of this vibrant, creative community but avoid the part of the narrative that can be painful or scary.

I spent 32 minutes in conversation with Stefani, many of them devoted to her lengthy answer to my question about Harajuku Lovers. In that time, she said more than once that she is Japanese. Allure’s social media associate (who is Asian and Latina) was also present for the interview and we were left questioning what we had heard. Maybe she misspoke? Again and again?
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I don’t believe Stefani was trying to be malicious or hurtful in making these statements. But words don’t have to be hostile in their intent in order to potentially cause harm, and my colleague and I walked away from that half hour unsettled. I wanted to better understand why.
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I asked Fariha I. Khan, Ph.D., codirector of the Asian American Studies Program at the University of Pennsylvania, to help clarify the line between inspiration or appreciation and appropriation. "Simply put, cultural appropriation is the use of one group’s customs, material culture, or oral traditions by another group," she said, and raises two important factors to consider: commodification and an unequal power relationship.

In terms of commodification, Stefani has certainly made a lot of money tapping into other cultures for inspiration. "A hit is a hit," Stefani told me, referencing the success of her Harajuku Mini children’s clothing line in Target from 2011 and her fashion line L.A.M.B. from 2003.
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And then there’s the power part: "When a group has been historically marginalized and/or racialized by another group, the issue of power is central to cultural appropriation," explains Dr. Khan. "The dominant group has the power to take (or appropriate) the marginalized group’s customs and practices and give these traditions meaning — without the original context or significance."

And the unequal power relationship between the person with the power (often a white person) and the group they claim to be part of can create negative repercussions for the latter — no matter the intentions of the former. "While I think [lack of awareness] is a valid reason, I don’t think it’s a valid excuse,"
says Angela Nguyen, MSW, a therapist at the Yellow Chair Collective, a psychotherapist group with an emphasis on serving the Asian American community.

"A white person doesn’t have to face the racism, prejudices, or discrimination that a Japanese, Mexican, or El Salvadorian person would have to face," continues Nguyen. "They can put on those bits of culture sort of like a costume." And that can lead to a diluted perception of the minority group, Nguyen explains. When it comes to the AAPI community, she says, "It can affect, first, how AAPI people are perceived and, second, how AAPI people perceive themselves."

Exactly. See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg17396/#msg17396

To be clear, we should be happy to see "non-whites" from different cultural backgrounds wearing one another's clothes. We should only be offended when "whites" (including Jews) wear our clothes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkfzi12e8IE

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I don’t like how condescending she sounded, nor do I like or agree with what she said. Gwen is untouchable

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when she came out with her new look with those Japanese women, I literally lost all respect for that woman. I noticed even in the music videos that she treated them like pets... As if they were her personal dolls or some ****. Either way it was messed up. It's time she faces what she did! I have no issue with people exploring and appreciating others cultures but this bs is vial! These women were used as a gimmick to make some white lady richer than they could even imagine. Absolutely disgusting!

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and they will gladly adopt her into the fold, they 'worship; at the alter of whitness...****

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Wypipo always wanna take and culturally appropriate. Thieves for centuries.

Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 26, 2023, 08:33:03 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/black-uk-girl-punished-school-180000692.html

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Black UK Girl Punished at School for Braided Heart and Twitter Reacts

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“My child is banned from the school playground/canteen for her hair, its neatly braided in a natural colour, I gave them a lesson on the history of black womens hairs cultural significance of braiding, they chose violence, @BishopChalloner has a racist hair policy!!!” tweeted Jade Samuels with an image of the neatly cornrowed head of her daughter, Rae.
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Samuels’ tweet reached an audience of 12 million people and received over 26,000 responses - many of which rallied in support of Rae.
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Jade this is appalling. Her hair is neat and tidy, tied back away from her face (so safe for science etc) and a natural colour. The only inappropriate thing here is the attitude of the school.
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Easy to see the school’s flex on this is a racist power move because nothing about her hairstyle is even close to causing any kind of actual problem.

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First problem was going to a Catholic anything. Take her out of school.

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Black momma, take you child out of that school. You nor your child have to be subjected to that racist creed.  Dont argue with them, dont engage them.  Just remove yourself.

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If white women/girls could easily style their hair in braids, twists, knots, and fros there probably wouldn't be any bans.

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They have MAGAs in England too

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Where do you think RACISM came to America from?
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on January 29, 2023, 09:38:50 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmO3s9XacAEGoVo?format=jpg&name=large)

Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 14, 2023, 05:46:39 pm
Our choice of clothes send a message to the Western occupiers that they do not like:

https://www.theroot.com/state-rep-justin-j-pearson-told-by-gop-to-explore-a-1850113415

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(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_965/4a087f53293d14cab9f31ed528cd7345.jpg)

The Tennessee House GOP didn’t hide their disdain for freshman Democratic state representative Justin J. Pearson after he wore a Dashiki on the House Floor. Their advice to him: get in line, or leave his position.
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“We literally just got on the State House floor and already a white supremacist has attacked my wearing of my Dashiki. Resistance and subversion to the status quo ought to make some people uncomfortable. Thank you to every Black Ancestor who made this opportunity possible!”
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“I’ve been wearing suits since I was eight years old. It’s not a problem with wearing suits, there is a problem with upholding systems that tell people what is wrong and what is right based on what is considered normal and, in this status quo, what is normal is what is white.”

Red politicians will lie about everything:

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The Tennessee House GOP Twitter account immediately replied:

    “Referencing the bipartisan and unanimously approved rules for House decorum and dress attire is far from a racist attack. If you don’t like rules, perhaps you should explore a different career opportunity that’s main purpose is not creating them.”

However, the exchange prompted Tennessee-based network Action News 5 to look into the exchange only to discover there is no formal written rule about appropriate attire.

What our enemies think:

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1381748-2/

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What a joke. He wants to honor his ancestors? Most of them don't even know who sired them. Of what ancestors does he speak? A slave collar and a leash would probably be more historically accurate.

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That hair makes you want to take a lit match to it and watch it go fffffsssst!
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: SirGalahad on February 14, 2023, 09:09:58 pm
Justin Pearson is seen as a fool, meanwhile his critics are dressed like BUSINESSMEN in a house of authority. No leader would have ever dressed like that prior to western civilization’s peak. The implications of a suit and tie and what it means to be a leader, do not mix
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 04, 2023, 06:28:27 pm
True Leftists let one form of decolonization lead us to another. Those who do not are False Leftists:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/03/sports/black-equestrians-helmets-safety.html

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Black Equestrians Want to Be Safe. But They Can’t Find Helmets.

For Black riders with natural hair, finding a helmet that fits can be virtually impossible. Some are trying to raise awareness of the problem, but manufacturers say it’s not a simple fix.

I have a simple fix: don't ride horses.

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she was the only Black girl in the neighborhood, aside from her sister.

About eight years ago, she reconnected with her father, a native of Jamaica. As the two grew closer, Ms. Robbins decided to style her hair in locs, like her dad. But there was a problem: Her riding helmet no longer fit, and she couldn’t find one that did.

“I finally freaking feel like myself, and now society is asking me to change,” Ms. Robbins, 27, of Alliston, Ontario, said as she choked back tears. “I just want to be able to ride.”

Horse riding has nothing to do with "blackness", you **** Turanian:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Indo-European_migrations.jpg/1280px-Indo-European_migrations.jpg)

Why are you practicing the hobby of your colonizers even as you reject their hairstyles?

Robbins also looks like what we would expect:

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/02/02/multimedia/00xp-helmet-2sit-qcvg/00xp-helmet-2sit-qcvg-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp)

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/02/02/multimedia/00xp-helmet-new-fhzv/00xp-helmet-new-fhzv-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp)

(And what's with the Eurocentric hair dye?)

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Black equestrians have long felt virtually invisible in a sport that remains overwhelmingly white. For those with natural hair, which for many is a declaration of pride and Black identity, finding a helmet that fits properly can be nearly impossible, creating yet another barrier to full inclusion.

If you really were proud of being "black", you would not ride horses in the first place, because your pre-colonial ancestors never rode horses, unlike your colonizers.

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‘This Sport Isn’t Designed for Us.’

Black riders say the manufacturers’ responses demonstrate what they’re up against.

“Sports were only developed for white people and they continue to keep white people protected,” Ms. Robbins said. “People need to realize diversity and inclusion belongs anywhere, especially in sports.”

Why are you so colonized? "Non-whites" should be trying to end equestrian sports (and those who developed them) ASAP, not be included in them!

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The two co-founded a Minnesota nonprofit, CREW Urban Youth Equestrians, in 2021 to provide opportunities for Black youth and other children of color to learn about horses while developing tools to manage their emotions. Getting a helmet to work is often a time-consuming task that can take away from saddle time, they said.

“It’s like reopening a wound every time,” Ms. Smith, who is Black, said. “And it’s so counterproductive to the purpose of why they are out here at the barn, to have a safe space.”

No, being ridden is reopening a wound every time. It is horses who need a safe space from Turanians like yourself.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on March 09, 2023, 07:05:46 pm
Example of using wrong terminology to combat dress colonization:
https://twitter.com/confucian_the/status/1632745169455042564?s=20
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Comrade Confucius
@confucian_the
Men's clothing from the Majapahit Empire was cool AF. Far cooler (both figuratively and literally) than the stupid asexual Capitalist monkey suit.
I've even got an antique bronze men's ring from around that time period.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fqis70waEAEvMzK?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Assuming you are referring to the Western business suit, it is far from "asexual", since its very purpose is to emphasize sexual dimorphism! (As we have documented extensively in this thread).
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 09, 2023, 07:33:43 pm
Furthermore, does this idiot seriously think that ordinary people in pre-colonial times dressed like in that photo as everyday attire? Therefore it is not even a fair comparison with Western suits which are worn as everyday attire by countless ordinary people nowadays.

Then again, do you expect any better from someone literally called Comrade Confucius?
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on March 09, 2023, 08:15:42 pm
"Furthermore, does this idiot seriously think that ordinary people in pre-colonial times dressed like in that photo as everyday attire?"
Exactly. Here is what people acutally dressed like in the Majapahit Empire:
(https://www.shutterstock.com/shutterstock/photos/1474189607/display_1500/stock-vector-majapahit-peoples-from-medieval-kingdom-in-java-indonesia-vector-1474189607.jpg)

Note the simplicity of the dress. Contrary to what these "Chadpillers" would have you believe, non-Western civilizations were not sexually dimorphic or complex as Western civilization.

"Then again, do you expect any better from someone literally called Comrade Confucius?"
Forgot to mention this, but his anthropocentric view about "monkeys"  is also a reflection of his username.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: HikariDude on March 09, 2023, 08:54:58 pm
I see with the actual Majapahit clothing, the women may have some minor adjustments from men, but all wear brown over red kilts/dresses as well as their gold ribbon belts ties being tied similarly. They also all have the same wrist-wear and their hairs have some sort of bun/tail.

I think I might be starting to grasp your idea on clothing.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 11, 2023, 05:46:37 pm
https://www.dazeddigital.com/beauty/article/55876/1/exploring-the-popularity-of-the-asian-balayage

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While we may be free to make decisions about our hair, what does it mean if we ‘choose’ to pursue an ideal which Western society prizes?
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The New York Times recently reported that around 50 per cent of Asian customers at Sondar Hair Studio in New York City were looking to dye their hair lighter, while April Taylor, owner of London salon Somewhere in Queen’s Park, estimates that “at least 70 per cent” of her Asian clientele are going blonder.

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But Bhagwandas also points to other forces at play that could be subconsciously influencing our decisions. She stresses that “we do have to recognise when beauty trends are cloaked Eurocentric ideals” and explains that Asian culture has a tendency to regard Western features as especially desirable. “It’s so embedded in the culture, in practices like skin lightening or westernising cosmetic surgery, that it’s become the norm,” she says. “These beliefs then become expected customs and beauty standards and end up being passed down from generation to generation, often without being examined and disrupted. But in each country and in each culture, these customs are extremely nuanced and hard to break away from.”

It’s undoubtedly difficult to relinquish the idea that blonde is the ideal hair colour given its representation in popular culture – just think of Barbie or Marilyn Monroe – despite the fact that only two per cent of the world's population has naturally blonde hair. It’s equally difficult to acknowledge that wanting blonde hair may suggest an underlying desire to conform to Western beauty standards. Because while we may be free to make decisions about our hair, what does it mean if we ‘choose’ to pursue an ideal which Western society prizes?

It means you are colonized.

(https://i.imgur.com/VV0qAsG.jpeg)

(https://preview.redd.it/r7gbnsur20a41.png?auto=webp&s=e85143f4a418b2f1b5cdd7c9d2e293966bb04559)

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This idea that whiteness was beautiful was exported to Africa and Asia with the advent of colonialism in the 15th and 16th centuries, as colonisers justified their cruelty and racism with white supremacist ideology.
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Bhagwandas points out that this prizing of ‘white’ features includes hair, not just skin. “European colonialism and slavery – which lasted centuries – created a power dynamic that meant that those that held the power had lighter skin, lighter eyes and lighter hair. So automatically we have the case where those in power look a certain way which sets up an image of what wealth and success look like, and it’s a European or Western face and image of beauty,” Bhagwandas explains. “There was a colonial precedent where those with a proximity to whiteness were given preferential treatment because of it,” she continues. “We’re still living in the legacy of this when we think about how recently colonisation ended – the legacy of white supremacy is absolutely still at play in beauty.”
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So what’s to be done? Everyone stick to their natural hair colour? That’s the implication in the aforementioned TikTok video: Laura calls Asian women reverting back to their natural dark hair after a brief dalliance with lighter locks “peak character development.”

I would consider it merely the first step. Why not look into reviving pre-colonial hairstyles also? I'm not saying everyone has to wear those hairstyles, but at least no one should be afraid to wear them. If you are afraid to go out in public with a pre-colonial hairstyle (or in pre-colonial clothes etc.), you are still colonized.
Title: Re: Psychological decolonization
Post by: guest98 on June 05, 2023, 04:00:58 pm
https://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/here-s-how-code-switching-can-hurt-black-indigenous-people-in-canada-1.6427374

Here's how 'code-switching' can hurt Black, Indigenous people in Canada

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In a dominantly whiteculture[business], racialized people in Canada may "codeswitch", Selam Debs, an antiracism coach said.

Code-switching refers to a person changing their behaviour, expression or appearance Debs told CTV's Your Morning on Monday, explaining the reasons for doing so can include safety, job opportunities or quality service.

"Black, Indigenous and racialized folks are often considered 'the other' when it comes to accents," she said. "So we might change the way that we speak, recognizing that it is in relationship with trying to fit into what is considered professional."

Other examples of code-switching include changing hairstyle for a job opportunity, not wearing traditional clothing, or having to consciously avoid being stereotyped.

 Black youth feeling they can’t wear certain fashions, due to safety concerns are they types of subtle switches that can weigh on a person, Debs said, which can cause further stress.

"When you are constantly putting yourself in a pretzel, it can lead to anxiety, it can lead to a sense of havoc, feeling impostor syndrome, feeling like you have to work twice as hard, but receive twice as less," she said.

Stopping that pattern requires safe spaces for people to be themselves, and that requires everyone’s consideration, Debs says.

"Who are we holding as the human universal standard? And how can we begin to disrupt that and think about what we consider professional and recognize that the diversity in the representation of cultures and peoples actually makes our spaces more beautiful and more impactful."


If you try to act in a inauthentic way in order to be included in the "white" business then your colonized. 
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 13, 2023, 04:40:18 pm
Ongoing success:

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/texas-crown-act-formally-signed-by-abbott-in-ceremony/

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AUSTIN (KXAN)— On Monday morning, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott signed the Crown Act into law in a formal signing ceremony at the Texas Capitol. The law bans discrimination against someone for wearing Black natural hairstyles like braids, locks and twists.

The CROWN Act is an acronym for Creating a Respectful and Open World for Natural hair, and it prohibits school districts, colleges or universities, employers or labor unions to discriminate against any protected hairstyle as part of a dress code.
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CROWN Act bills have been passed in 21 states including Texas and are part of a national civil rights and anti-discrimination movement started in 2019.
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The Texas representatives behind the bill hope people not only do feel courage to move forward, but will take legal action of they feel like their rights have been violated under the new law.

“I have suffered the same micro aggressions that the people i was fighting to protect have and with every bit of every bit of my soul it means so much to me that we can make this happen and this will touch the generations,” Bowers said.

Further information:

https://www.thecrownact.com/
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 14, 2023, 04:01:59 pm
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/06/wales-slavery-complicit-charlotte-hammond-cardiff/

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Wales must acknowledge its complicity in “colonial exploitation” because the nation’s wool was used in garments worn by slaves, a historian has said.

Dr Charlotte Hammond, a Cardiff University academic, recounts in a new book how the wool, known as “Welsh plains”, was both used as a commodity to trade for slaves and as the material for enslaved peoples’ clothing.
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The “Welsh plains” wool was uncomfortably coarse, and was distributed to slaves to fashion as they wanted, rather than being given ready to wear clothes.
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the term ‘Negro Cloth’ appears frequently in colonial archives to refer to the woollens used to clothe enslaved people.”
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“We have followed the cloth’s colonial connections to the Caribbean and southern states of the US, where Welsh plains was used to clothe enslaved field workers who toiled on the plantations.”

I never liked wearing wool. Besides being fundamentally a Turanian material, it is highly insulating and thus unsuitable for warmer habitats. It is not a coincidence that wool production economically facilitated the Renaissance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wool#History

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In medieval times, as trade connections expanded, the Champagne fairs revolved around the production of wool cloth in small centers such as Provins. The network developed by the annual fairs meant the woolens of Provins might find their way to Naples, Sicily, Cyprus, Majorca, Spain, and even Constantinople.[21] The wool trade developed into serious business, a generator of capital.[22] In the 13th century, the wool trade became the economic engine of the Low Countries and central Italy. By the end of the 14th century, Italy predominated.[21]
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The value of exports of English raw wool were rivaled only by the 15th-century sheepwalks of Castile and were a significant source of income to the English crown, which in 1275 had imposed an export tax on wool called the "Great Custom". The importance of wool to the English economy can be seen in the fact that since the 14th century, the presiding officer of the House of Lords has sat on the "Woolsack", a chair stuffed with wool.
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Before the flowering of the Renaissance, the Medici and other great banking houses of Florence had built their wealth and banking system on their textile industry based on wool, overseen by the Arte della Lana, the wool guild: wool textile interests guided Florentine policies. Francesco Datini, the "merchant of Prato", established in 1383 an Arte della Lana for that small Tuscan city. The sheepwalks of Castile were controlled by the Mesta union of sheep owners. They shaped the landscape and the fortunes of the meseta that lies in the heart of the Iberian peninsula; in the 16th century, a unified Spain allowed export of Merino lambs only with royal permission. The German wool market – based on sheep of Spanish origin – did not overtake British wool until comparatively late. Later, the Industrial Revolution introduced mass production technology into wool and wool cloth manufacturing. Australia's colonial economy was based on sheep raising, and the Australian wool trade eventually overtook that of the Germans by 1845, furnishing wool for Bradford, which developed as the heart of industrialized woolens production.

(see also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/academic-decolonization/msg13234/#msg13234 )

and with it, the colonial era itself:

https://www.raisingsheep.net/history-of-wool

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Sheep herding was a booming success in medieval England and a highly sought after career. Demand for wool was monstrous. Because of this, many governments placed a heavy tax on wool imports and exports to support their own agendas. This funded military ventures and expansion efforts.
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Bringing Wool to Other Parts of the World

In the 1700s, European tradesmen began to take their sheep and wool products to other parts of the world. It was around this time that sheep’s wool made it to both South Africa and Australia.

In fact, the wool industry was so lucrative during this period wool import and export taxes funded Christopher Columbus’ journey to the Americas. Columbus even brought sheep with him on his multiple journeys, and introduced them to this new land.

The worst victims of the wool industry are of course the sheep themselves. Wild sheep did not grow such copious quantities of wool; woolly sheep are the product of selective breeding for wool growth. Woolly sheep should never have existed; those left unshorn are prone to overheating inside their own wool:

(https://video-images.vice.com/articles/6038276038fc91009d3b6fbf/lede/1614295271287-00093q4vd.jpeg)

while those who are sheared are subject to the whims of the shearers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep_shearing#Animal_welfare

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Animal welfare organizations have raised concerns about the abuse of sheep during shearing, and have advocated against the selling and buying of wool products.[16] Sheep shearers are paid by the number of sheep shorn, not by the hour, and there are no requirements for formal training or accreditation.[17] Because of this it is alleged that speed is prioritised over precision and care of the animal.

In 2013, an anonymous shearer reported instances of animal abuse by workers, an allegation to which an Australian Worker's Union representative added that he had witnessed "shearers gouge eyes and break sheep jaws."[18]
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video footage that PETA said was taken in more than a dozen shearing sheds in New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia. The Guardian reported that the video showed, "sheep being roughly handled, punched in the face and stamped upon. One sheep was beaten with a hammer while another was shown having a deep cut crudely sewn up."[19]
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More recent footage and images of Australian workers abusing sheep have been released by anonymous sources
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Sheep shearing and wool handling competitions are held regularly in parts of the world, particularly Ireland, the UK, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia.[25] As sheep shearing is an arduous task, speed shearers, for all types of equipment and sheep, are usually very fit and well trained. In Wales a sheep shearing contest is one of the events of the Royal Welsh Show, the country's premier agricultural show held near Builth Wells.

The world's largest sheep shearing and wool handling contest, the Golden Shears, is held in the Wairarapa district, New Zealand.[26]

The shearing World Championships are hosted by different countries every 2–3 years and eight countries have hosted the event. The first World Championships were held at the Bath & West showground, England, in 1977, and the first Machine-Shearing winner was Roger Cox from New Zealand. Other countries that have hosted the sheep shearing World Championships have been New Zealand (3 times), England (3 times), Australia (2 times), Wales, Ireland, Scotland, South Africa & Norway. Out of 13 World Championships, New Zealand have won the team Machine contest 10 times, and famous New Zealand sheep-shearer David Fagan has been World Champion a record 5 times.[27]

In October, 2008 the event was hosted in Norway. It was the first time ever that the event was hosted by a non-English speaking country. The newly crowned World Machine Shearing champion is Paul Avery from New Zealand. New Zealand also won the team event, and the traditional blade-shears World Champion is Ziewilelle Hans from South Africa.

Superior people wear Aryan cloths:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton#History

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The earliest evidence of the use of cotton in the Old World, dated to 5500 BC and preserved in copper beads, has been found at the Neolithic site of Mehrgarh, at the foot of the Bolan Pass in ancient India, today in Balochistan Pakistan.[9][10][11] Fragments of cotton textiles have been found at Mohenjo-daro and other sites of the Bronze Age Indus Valley civilization, and cotton may have been an important export from it.[12]
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Cotton bolls discovered in a cave near Tehuacán, Mexico, have been dated to as early as 5500 BC, but this date has been challenged.[13] More securely dated is the domestication of Gossypium hirsutum in Mexico between around 3400 and 2300 BC.[14] During this time, people between the Río Santiago and the Río Balsas grew, spun, wove, dyed, and sewed cotton. What they did not use themselves, they sent to their Aztec rulers as tribute, on the scale of ~116 million pounds annually.[15]

In Peru, cultivation of the indigenous cotton species Gossypium barbadense has been dated, from a find in Ancon, to c. 4200 BC,[16] and was the backbone of the development of coastal cultures such as the Norte Chico, Moche, and Nazca.
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According to the Columbia Encyclopedia:[17]

Cotton has been spun, woven, and dyed since prehistoric times. It clothed the people of ancient India, Egypt, and China. Hundreds of years before the Christian era, cotton textiles were woven in India with matchless skill, and their use spread to the Mediterranean countries.
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In Iran (Persia), the history of cotton dates back to the Achaemenid era (5th century BC)
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Cotton (Gossypium herbaceum Linnaeus) may have been domesticated 5000 BC in eastern Sudan near the Middle Nile Basin region, where cotton cloth was being produced.[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp#History

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Hemp use archaeologically dates back to the Neolithic Age in China, with hemp fiber imprints found on Yangshao culture pottery dating from the 5th millennium BC.[128][132] The Chinese later used hemp to make clothes, shoes, ropes, and an early form of paper.[128]
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In Japan, hemp was historically used as paper and a fiber crop. There is archaeological evidence cannabis was used for clothing and the seeds were eaten

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linen#History

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in ancient Mesopotamia, flax was domesticated and linen was produced.[14] It was used mainly by the wealthier class of the society, including priests.[15] The Sumerian poem of the courtship of Inanna mentions flax and linen.[16]

In ancient Egypt, linen was used for mummification and for burial shrouds. It was also worn as clothing on a daily basis; white linen was worn because of the extreme heat.[citation needed] For example, the Tarkhan dress, considered to be among the oldest woven garments in the world and dated to between 3482 and 3102 BC, is made of linen.[17] Plutarch wrote that the priests of Isis also wore linen because of its purity.[18][19]
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on August 21, 2023, 11:06:54 pm
https://twitter.com/OgbeniDemola/status/1693650829604008312
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There’s a way we dress in Africa- we open our bodies sometimes  because of the weather, Europeans wear suit and tie because of their cold weather. It’s only Africans that will wear suit and tie inside a hot scorching sun thinking they’re civilized.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 30, 2023, 06:08:40 pm
Credit to the staff for at least trying to decolonize your interior decor, but so what? The official's Western suit instantly ruins it all:

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/oCJuD4qzvWDcR7xZMCRMDQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTY0MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/reuters.com/41cf7819dd9f4b6334795d9c8f5f18d6)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-response-uss-raimondo-says-011408126.html
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 03, 2023, 10:57:17 pm
Continuing from:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/france's-'anti-separatism'-bill8203/msg21767/#msg21767

Backup has arrived!

https://us.yahoo.com/news/nike-designer-tells-french-schoolgirls-060000437.html

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Nike designer tells French schoolgirls to defy Islamic abaya dress ban
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London-based fashion influencer Saeedah Haque has designed modern variations of the robe-like “abaya” garment, intended to preserve modesty, which will be banned from state schools by the French State in line with its policy of preserving secular spaces.

British Bengali designer Ms Haque has urged French schoolgirls to attend school wearing abayas in defiance of the new prohibition.

The 25-year-old, who has partnered with the global brand Nike, has told her large social media following that she may offer the controversial garment for free to anyone who wears one to school.

“The abaya is not a religious garment, but a cultural one. It is not a symbol of religion,’’ Ms Haque said.

‘‘Bans on an ambiguous garment leaves sanctions up to the perception of head teachers and those in positions of power. This will not always be fair and in most cases rooted in discrimination of certain groups while allowing others such as those that are of closer proximity to whiteness.’’

Ms Haque also said: ‘‘Bans on modest clothing are dangerous and oppressive – you are giving girls an ultimatum and forcing them to uncover their bodies. They may be uncomfortable to do this for reasons that are not faith-related – perpetuating body insecurity and harassment. This creates a barrier to education far more harmful than any piece of clothing can.”

Ms Haque, who has been profiled in fashion magazine Grazia as a leader in “modest fashion”, has told her social media followers in video on Tiktok: “France’s ban on the abaya in schools this week doesn’t make sense and will continue to perpetuate the negative media narrative on conservative modest clothing.”

In the video cut with images of girls wearing the flowing abaya, which typically covers the body from the neck to the ankles, she added her new designs of the garment will drop “exclusive to France”.

It continues: “And if you send me a photo of you wearing it to school I might even refund your whole order.

“Streetwear was always a movement, so don’t act surprised, we haven’t even begun. How’s that for neutrality?”

https://saeedahhaque.com/

(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/05/09/07/nikehijab.png?width=1200)

(https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C4E12AQHTre1mafZzgg/article-cover_image-shrink_600_2000/0/1520131462491?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=z_PDpdoMD8ZU-THvbQk10mo8O1GLpeJGfH1fjG-sCfQ)

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/bds-288/msg9378/#msg9378
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 08, 2023, 05:00:08 pm
The US being American (instead of Western) for once:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-panel-denounces-france-abaya-192512659.html

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US panel denounces France abaya ban as targeting Muslims

A US government advisory panel on Friday denounced ally France's ban on schoolgirls wearing abayas, saying the restriction on the long, flowing dresses was meant to "intimidate" the Muslim minority.
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"France continues to wield a specific interpretation of secularism to target and intimidate religious groups, particularly Muslims," Cooper said in a statement.
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Conservative French politicians have sought to widen restrictions. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who came in second to President Emmanuel Macron in last year's presidential election, has campaigned for the banning of wearing veils in the street.
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: = on September 19, 2023, 05:52:50 pm
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66848381

Schumer relaxes US Senate dress code to allow hoodies

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US senators no longer have to follow a dress code when voting on bills or debating in the senate gallery.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has directed the sergeant at arms to stop enforcing a requirement that lawmakers wear "business attire".

Senators have long dressed more freely in other parts of the Capitol.

CBS News also reported that the relaxed dress code only applies to lawmakers' wardrobes. Staff members and others must continue to wear office-appropriate clothes and shoes in the historic chamber.

Republicans have criticised the dress code change on X, formerly known as Twitter.

The House of Representatives has a more formal dress code that lawmakers modify through voting. In 2019, for example, the House approved allowing members to wear religious headwear such as hijabs.




Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: Z on September 19, 2023, 06:09:44 pm
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Republicans have criticised the dress code change on X, formerly known as Twitter.

Western suits are obviously the best way for western rightists to hide their often grotesque physique and look some what "respectable", "professional", and healthy. Not surprised Republicans do not like the dress code change.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12D44/production/_90842177_mediaitem90842176.jpg)
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: NoBrakes on September 28, 2023, 03:59:48 pm
Senate votes to reinstate formal dress code
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The Senate unanimously passed a resolution Wednesday night formalizing business attire as the proper dress code while on the floor of the chamber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a30Fx1zAQO8
Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: rp on October 22, 2023, 04:21:50 pm
"contemporary Islamic dress codes as visually sexually dimorphic in their own right on account of such codes employing different articles of clothing for men than for women"

The key is to clearly explain that different dress practices for men and for women does not necessarily correspond to celebration of sexual dimorphism, so long as the particular practices are designed to disguise (rather than accentuate) the sexual dimorphism of the practitioners.

"those dress codes reduce the visual sexual dimorphism of women without simultaneously reducing the visual sexual dimorphism of men to the same degree."

This is a valid criticism and one which I have raised myself in the past. Why should women do more work than men in dressing up? They should not. But the point here is that Western dress also requires women to do more work than men in dressing up, yet this extra work is done by women in order to increase their visible sexual dimorphism! Thus both Western and Islamic dress codes (sadly) require women to do more work, but for opposite objectives, and comparing only the objectives allows us to conclude that Islamic dress code is at least trying to aim in a good direction (albeit with much room for improvement).


"an idealized version of the Islamic dress code according to Mohammedan standards to the audience receiving our message. What might such a dress code look like relative to the existing ones?"

The main issue is how to cover hair. I personally would say that hats/turbans are adequate, though societies which want headscarves should be allowed to keep using them on the condition that men be required to wear them also. I also support the alternative of shaving the head.

Related:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/re-genghis-khan/msg4142/#msg4142
Upon reading this post, I remembered seeing this comic a while ago:
(https://www.theexmuslim.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/14051811_10154042470092730_7597492216178998365_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Dress decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 23, 2023, 11:40:53 pm
No prizes for guessing which side Trump is on:

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/melania-bikini-trump-anthony-pratt-recording-b2434309.html

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In one of the recordings, the Mar-a-Lago member is heard recounting one incident at the former president’s Palm Beach club where Mr Trump urged Melania to don a bikini to make his friends jealous.

“He said, ‘I asked Melania to walk around the pool in a bikini so all the other guys could get a look at what they were missing,’”
Title: Re: Mainstream media rightist bias
Post by: rp on October 30, 2023, 03:17:48 pm
Reza "Eurocentrist" Pahlavi:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Shah_fullsize.jpg/220px-Shah_fullsize.jpg)

Why do all these constitutional "monarchs" dress in Western "regal" attire? At least the Arab theocrats have a better sense of fashion.
Title: Re: Re: Mainstream media rightist bias
Post by: Zhang Caizhi on October 31, 2023, 09:09:48 am
@rp

How about the Sultan of Brunei, an absolute monarchy?

https://www.ft.com/content/d8e074fe-80e6-11e7-a4ce-15b2513cb3ff

(https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/ftcms%3Ad869950c-8161-11e7-94e2-c5b903247afd?source=next-article&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&width=700&dpr=2)

Title: Re: Social decolonization
Post by: Schwartze Katze on February 26, 2024, 03:02:20 pm
How some African women are bringing back tattoo traditions erased by colonization
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This video explores African women's connection to tattooing and scarification, looking at how that connection was lost as a result of colonization. We follow Jessica Horn and Laurence Sessou on their mission to reverse centuries of colonialism, the erasure of traditional tattoo practices and the impact this has had on women's relationship with their bodies. This story is part of As Equals, CNN's ongoing series on gender inequality. For information about how the series is funded and more, check out our FAQs. #CNN #News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-96YOXoQz4

Comments:

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In 2023  an estimated 6.3 million children under five died, 2.9 million of them in the WHO African Region. This is equivalent to five children under 5 years of age dying every minute. Two thirds of these deaths can be attributed to preventable causes. A third of all these deaths are in the neonatal period. 1:37
R:
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What a beautiful stat to know. Sad though. But Africa is a continent, home to 1 billion people, 54 countries,  over 2,500 languages with a rich history. But colonialism, neo-colonialism, slavery. The continent just had the last 60 years to get itself together, a feat that took the US, over 400 yrs and counting to achieve.

Breathe, a story on tattoo will not kill you, if you watch and not catastrophise
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Congratulations to you. I am French, of Berber origin from Morocco. In Berber culture, women traditionally used to tattoo different parts of their bodies, a tradition that unfortunately is no longer perpetuated due, among other reasons, to religion. Some women even go as far as to have their tattoos removed, an entire aspect of this culture that is disappearing.
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Why everything that they said or done have to bring some form of victim mentality in it?
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In order to decolonize one must first acknowledge the negative affects of colonialism on one's own culture. This is not a victim mentality.