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Explained | World's Water Crisis | FULL EPISODE
In partnership with Vox Media Studios and Vox, this enlightening explainer series will take viewers deep inside a wide range of culturally relevant topics, questions, and ideas. Each episode will explore current events and social trends pulled from the zeitgeist, touching topics across politics, science, history and pop culture -- featuring interviews with some of the most authoritative experts in their respective fields.
In this episode: The global water crisis is at an inflection point. How do we price our most valuable resource, while also ensuring access to it as a human right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C65iqOSCZOY
The most intelligent and sensible thing to do would be to cap the human population and control human reproduction.
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As birth rates fall, animals prowl in our abandoned 'ghost villages'
Human populations are set to decline in countries from Asia to Europe – and an unusual form of rewilding is taking place
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/24/as-birth-rates-fall-animals-prowl-in-our-abandoned-ghost-villages?utm_source=pocket-newtab
This would be the perfect time to introduce state control over reproduction to ensure only quality humans are produced going forward. This way we can also make sure that what has been re-wilded is not re-humanized in the future.
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Intel Community Issues Grave Post-COVID Warning...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zydkRpvhM0Q
The only way out of all these crises is a drastic reduction in the human population. Going forth to multiply and subdue the planet has lead us to this point of being on the verge of catastrophe. That is the real issue, until governments are willing to accept this fact then things will continue to get worse.
A good place to start would be to stop racists from reproducing ASAP!!!
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We must ensure "stage 5" is the less-fertile future:
The original Demographic Transition model has just four stages, but additional stages have been proposed. Both more-fertile and less-fertile futures have been claimed as a Stage Five.
Some countries have sub-replacement fertility (that is, below 2.1–2.2 children per woman). Replacement fertility is generally slightly higher than 2 (the level which replaces the two parents) both because boys are born more often than girls (about 1.05–1.1 to 1) and to compensate for deaths prior to full reproduction. Many European and East Asian countries now have higher death rates than birth rates. Population aging and population decline may eventually occur, assuming that the fertility rate does not change and sustained mass immigration does not occur.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition#Stage_five
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"We must ensure "stage 5" is the less-fertile future:"
This is going to be hard without state control over reproduction. So-called spontaneous sub-replacement fertility rates are mean values. Rather than meaning most people have fewer than 2 offspring, in practice it is more likely to imply a bimodal distribution where a lot of people have 0 offspring and another lot of people have 2 or more. This means that in the following generation there is likely to be a fertility rebound as the generation is demographically dominated by those in the high fertility mode.
At least a One Child Policy would limit even the most fertile to 1 offspring only, thus mitigating the above effect.
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China announces three-child policy, in major policy shift
Married Chinese couples may have up to three children, China announced, in a major shift from the existing limit of two after recent data showed a dramatic decline in births in the world's most populous country.
#News #Reuters #China #Population #three-child policy #Couples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZMPJSxOWfo
What a shame! Declining birthrates is what needs to happen globally.
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China has officially lost its biggest narrative advantage. It could have gone down in history as the country which led the world in depopulation via state control over reproduction, and hence displayed the superiority of autocracy that enabled it to forge ahead while the democratic countries languished behind. All it needed to do was stick to the One-Child Policy already in place and encourage other countries to copy it:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/msg6699/#msg6699
Instead, right as this juncture when global warming is demanding more heavy-handed countermeasures all around the world, and at the same time China has unprecedented economic leverage over large parts of the world, in other words when conditions are optimal for other countries to start copying, Xi's "New China" itself gives up! Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.....
Worse, the False Left is cheering this as "human rights" progress.
China's population was <400 million before the Century of Humiliation:
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This should be what it should be trying to get back to at the absolute minimum! Heck:
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why not <100 million? That was its spontaneously comfortable population for millennia! It is no coincidence that that was when China was the world leader in aesthetics. Look at your own ancient paintings FFS! Look how few people there are in them!
(https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Xi-Gui-detail2-1024x265.jpg)
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This is the ideal that China should be aiming at!
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Global population hit by extreme drought set to double
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCjz6HQUurE
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I'm actually shocked it took humans this long to destroy our futures. Oh well, RIP humankind, it was a good run. PS the animals left in the world after we are gone thank you for leaving before killing off the rest of them first.
No, it was not a good run at all....
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China huge crisis: short of childbearing age women/3-child policy is ridiculed by the masses
https://youtu.be/EQRkCTIolcI
Most of the comments are all talking about how the one child policy bit China in the ass. OR, maybe, it was the culture of it being more desirable to have boys rather than girls for some stupid reason.
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Keeping track of what our enemies are thinking is crucial to defeating them:
https://counter-currents.com/2022/01/focus-on-birth-control-not-elections/
What advocates of our people should focus on is birth control in the Third World, especially Africa. In 2018, the average cost of a victorious Congressional run was over two million dollars; winning senators spent an average of 15.7 million dollars. That’s to say that having 30 Paul Gosars in Congress would cost 60 million dollars every two years. Those 30 Congressmen could create a “Patriotic Immigration Reform” caucus that would be stymied by the Republican mainstream and the entire Democrat Party over and over again. This caucus would not increase white birthrates, nor would it lower non-white birth rates. And again, actually sending this caucus to office — even at that steep cost — would be a political miracle.
Those 60 million dollars could be much better spent. Consider the average cost of an abortion in the US: $320 to $500 at ten weeks, $500 to $700 at 16 weeks, and $1,000 to $2,000 at 20 weeks or later — and 88% of abortions are carried out before week 13. In America, for every one white woman who aborts, six non-white women do. With that in mind, I would happily forfeit Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Congressional seat to any Democrat in exchange for a new abortion clinic in Los Angeles. Don’t like abortion? No problem. Condoms, IUDs, and oral contraceptives are all even cheaper options. Making them readily available to teenagers and the poor today will do more to improve the quality of your grandchildren’s high school than a President Trump, Jr. ever will.
But while expanded access to “family planning” is needed both at home and across the pond, we need to go further. Sub-Saharan Africa is the biggest demographic threat the world faces. In 2015, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán spoke clearly about this in the European context:
The countries of North Africa once functioned as a defence zone protecting Europe, absorbing the masses of people coming from Africa’s interior. And the real threat is not from the war zones, Ladies and Gentlemen, but from the heart of Africa. With the disintegration of North African states this line of defence has been spectacularly breached, and North Africa is no longer able to protect Europe from a vast flood of people. As a result, a problem has developed on a truly unimaginable scale. I agree with former President Sarkozy, who said on French television just the other day that the current wave of mass migration is only the beginning. There are one point one billion people in Africa today, more than half of them under the age of twenty-five. According to Mr. Sarkozy, before long hundreds of millions of people will have nowhere to live, and insufficient food and water. Following in the footsteps of today’s migrants, these people will leave their homelands. In other words, what is at stake today is Europe and the European way of life, the survival or extinction of European values and nations — or, to be more precise, their transformation beyond all recognition. The question now is not merely what kind of Europe we Hungarians would like to live in, but whether Europe as we now know it will survive at all.
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No member of the Trump family or the Republican Party can do much about these fertility differentials and what they portend for the West. But abortion, reliable condoms, and “the pill” could make quite the impact. Let’s stop wasting so much of our time and resources on domestic politics and instead focus on something more concretely productive: lowering Africa’s fertility rate.
I would support a one-child policy for all bloodlines of victims of Western colonialism if in conjunction with a zero-child policy for all bloodlines of Western colonialists. Of course our enemies would not accept such a deal. So we will just have to exterminate them.
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I think the 3-child policy is driven by the need for manpower and survival of China by the government.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJXdwriLwk0
Places like these should be filled with climate (and other) refugees ASAP!
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/refugees-welcome/
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Russia's Demographic Crisis Explained - TLDR News
Putin's invasion of Ukraine hasn't gone as well as he had planned, but things aren't going much better at home either, with Russia's fertility rate verging on a demographic crisis. Can Putin do anything about it, or will the war just make things worse?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-pdZSv7G10
Sounds like a positive development to me at this particular juncture in the timeline!?
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A Russian has recently married into our family. She said that there was no way she was going to marry a Russian male. Apparently there is an imbalance between the number of males to females in the populace with less men. The males apparently take advantage of the situation and the females get treated poorly, so she wanted out.
This wasn't mentioned in the TLDR video.
Maybe the Ukrainian war will have an impact on the out of balance male-female ratio. She did mention the low male life expectancy as all her father's friends have died.
Worth thing noting and I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned here is the domestic violence issue in Russia. It was decriminalised in 2017. Many many women have been harmed at the hands of their own men and many ended up dying in their own homes due to brutality occuring there. I can't imagine all this encourages women to have children when violence is so rampant. Then again, the head of the Russian church has remarked that "beatings are mere blessings" so maybe this might actually have nothing to do with birth rates going to hell.
Perhaps integration of some Ukrainians into Russia is the purpose of the "filtration camps" then?
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/?message=12645
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-claims-japan-eventually-183412560.html
Elon Musk claims 'Japan will eventually cease to exist' because of its declining birth rate
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According to the article, Japan's population dropped by a record 644,000 people to just over 125.5 million in 2021, which saw 831,000 births and 1.44 million deaths. The East Asian country’s population decline is now in its 11th consecutive year.
In reality:
(https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/1066956/population-japan-historical.jpg)
reducing Japan's population by 100 million would merely bring it closer to the pre-Meiji population, as I previously discussed here:
http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/another-one-bites-the-dust/
which was a population (while still high) at least had not yet exceeded the carrying capacity of the land, and hence is what we should be actively trying to get back to ASAP. And at least back then Japanese were not Eurocentrists, whereas now this is how they respond to Musk:
Master, thank you for raising the issue.
This Eurocentrist Japan is what Musk is actually worried about ceasing to exist.
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I am no fan of Macron, but on this occasion he displays common sense (to our enemies' horror):
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/09/18/macron-proposes-repopulating-rural-areas-with-migrants/
French president Emmanuel Macron has proposed creating a bill next year to reform France’s immigration and asylum policies, including a proposal to redistribute migrants to rural areas facing demographic decline.
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“We have a policy that is both inefficient and inhumane, inefficient because we find ourselves with more foreigners in an irregular situation than many of our neighbours, inhumane because this pressure means that they are too often badly received,” President Macron said, the newspaper Le Figaro reports.
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President Macron, who made his remarks on Thursday, also called for a new system to redistribute migrants across France, specifically in “rural areas, which are losing population,” arguing that “the conditions for their reception will be much better than if we put them in areas that are already densely populated, with a concentration of massive economic and social problems.”
France is merely arriving late to obvious solutions that other EU countries had already reached years ago:
Similar policies have been suggested in other countries in recent years, including Germany, where in 2016 it was suggested that villages and small towns could help integrate asylum seekers better and the asylum seekers would help counter demographic decline.
A University of Milano-Bicocca study released last year also proposed using asylum seekers to repopulate rural areas and small towns in Italy, arguing that if the local governments limited migrant centres to no more than 25 people, there would be little economic cost.
See also:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/population-and-demographics/msg10882/#msg10882
How do we know this is the correct solution? We look at who are opposing it:
Some in France, such as populist National Rally leader Marine Le Pen, have come out against Macron’s proposal, however.
“Emmanuel Macron wants to distribute foreigners in an irregular situation [illegal aliens] to rural areas. We believe that they should go back home. Unable to apply the law, he wants to change it. We will oppose this new madness!” Le Pen said on Twitter on Friday.
Rival populist Eric Zemmour had proposed €10,000 “birth grants” during the French presidential elections, to repopulate the countryside naturally
What is madness is encouraging more new births when there are already so many people desperately in need of housing.
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Encouraging news reported by our enemies:
https://www.eurocanadians.ca/2022/09/canada-2041-50-million-people-half-immigrants.html
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Actually, Canada is capable of carrying a much higher population than merely 50 million:
https://www.amazon.ca/Maximum-Canada-Million-Canadians-Enough/dp/0735273103
therefore Canada should be a significant destination country for climate refugees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1jat2-zI98
If you ask me, 100 million by 2041 would still not even close to enough given that climate refugees will eventually number in the billions.
I also agree that Quebec should be a destination for climate refugees from Francophone countries in particular:
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Why the war in Ukraine should be dragged out for as long as possible:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/putin-war-escalation-hastening-demographic-040000985.html
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Besides casualties in the thousands on the battlefield, the enlistment of 300,000 reservists to join the fight -- and an even bigger flight of men abroad -- is derailing Putin’s goals of starting to stabilize the population already this year.
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“The chief blow to the birth rate will be indirect, because most families will have their planning horizon completely destroyed as a result,” Efremov said. “And the impact will be stronger the longer the mobilization lasts.”
This is why I do not blame Iran for supplying Russia:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-iran-agrees-ship-missiles-133311484.html
The more weaponry Russia has, the longer we can keep the war going, and hence the more we can decimate Russia's population.
as Russia approached the invasion of Ukraine in February, it was coming off its deadliest year since World War II -- made worse by the pandemic -- with the population in decline since 2018. It reached 145.1 million on Aug. 1, a fall of 475,500 since the start of the year and down from 148.3 million in 1991, when the Soviet Union collapsed.
The continuation of the military campaign and mobilization until the end of next spring would be “catastrophic,” according to Efremov, likely bringing births down to just 1 million in the 12 months to mid-2024. The fertility rate may reach 1.2 children per woman, he said, a level Russia saw only once in 1999-2000.
Of course, the correct Russian fertility rate should be 0.
At the point when the Ukraine war is about to end (hopefully still years away), Russia will be at its weakest. At that point, every country geographically capable of invading Russia should invade Russia simultaneously to finish it off.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-catastrophic-missing-men-problem-095508987.html
Russia already had a huge gender imbalance before the Ukraine invasion, dating back to massive battlefield losses in World War II, Paul Goble writes at Eurasia Daily Monitor. Results from the 2021 census are expected to show that Russia has 10.5 million more women than men, almost the same disparity as a decade ago — the double blow being that Russian men at "prime child-bearing age" are dying in Ukraine or fleeing Putin's draft, which will "further depress the already low birthrates in the Russian Federation and put the country's demographic future, already troubled, at even greater risk."
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"The mobilization is upending families at perhaps the most fraught moment ever for Russian demographics, with the number of women of childbearing age down by about a third in the past decade" amid the country's broader population decline, Bloomberg reports. "While demographic traumas usually play out over decades, the fallout of the invasion is making the worst scenarios more likely — and much sooner than expected."
Continuing with the Ukraine war and mobilization efforts until the end of next spring would be "catastrophic" for Russia, Moscow demographer Igor Efremov tells Bloomberg. It would likely bring birth rates down to 1 million between mid-2023 and mid-2024, dropping the fertility rate to 1.2 children per woman, a low mark Russia hit only once, in the 1999-2000 period.
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Might there be a Russian post-war baby boom?
It's possible. Sometimes wars "lead to higher fertility," as when "sudden bursts of conception" occur as men deploy for battle, Goble writes at Eurasia Daily Monitor. "For example, monthly birth data from the 1940s clearly shows that U.S. baby boom began not as the G.I.'s returned from war, but as they were leaving for war." After the fighting stops, he adds, "wars may trigger a surge of nationalist ideas making people susceptible to pro-natal ideas and policies, even as so-called 'replacement fertility' often leads families to 'respond' to high-casualty events by having 'replacement' children.'"
Preventing this is why Russia must be invaded the moment the Ukraine war ends.
And in the meantime, "downloads of dating apps have significantly increased in the countries to which Russian men fled," the Times reports, noting sharp rises in downloads in Armenia, Georgia, Turkey, and Kazakhstan.
This is why we need:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/
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8 billion and counting
This week, the world’s population ticks over a historic milestone. But in the next century, society will be reshaped dramatically — and soon we’ll hit a decline we’ll never reverse.
Eight billion. It’s a number too big to imagine but think of it this way: In the time it takes you to read this paragraph, the world’s population grew by around 20 people.
We’re getting older and older, which means there are fewer people able to work to support more people who can’t.
Cities are expanding, chewing up arable farmland as they go.
Where are we going?
The world is likely to have a couple more billion mouths to feed in just a few decades.
The UN’s latest projections, released earlier this year, suggest the world will house about 9.7 billion humans in 2050.
“Demographic projections are highly accurate, and it has to do with the fact that most of the people who will be alive in 30 years have already been born,” the UN’s population division director, John Willmoth, says.
“But when you start getting 70, 80 years down the road, there’s much more uncertainty.”
Under its most likely scenario, the UN projects the world population will reach about 10.4 billion in the 2080s.
From there, it’s set to plateau for a couple of decades, before falling around the turn of the 22nd century.
But the range of reasonable possibilities in 2100 is considerably wider, between 8.9 and 12.4 billion.
Entire article: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-13/earths-population-reaches-eight-billion-people/101643854?utm_source=pocket-newtab
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How war is changing Russia’s population | DW Business Special
President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine is causing major changes back home. Hundreds of thousands of Russian men are being mobilized to fight and tens of thousands have already been killed or injured. Meanwhile, many Russians have left their country and millions of Ukrainians are thought to have arrived.
What impact will these changes have on the Russian population? And could the public response lead to Putin’s downfall? We discuss these questions and more with UCLA’s Oleg Itskhoki in this DW Business Special.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMk_ZxrrJOs
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/22/immigration-fuels-record-high-canada-population-growth
Immigration fuels record-high population growth in Canada
Canada has seen a record boom in its population, with Ottawa citing higher immigration targets and a “record-breaking year for the processing of immigration applications” as being responsible for the increase.
The most recent bump has also been fuelled by new citizens from abroad, with international migration accounting for nearly 96 percent of the growth.
Trudeau’s government has doubled the pre-existing target for welcoming newcomers since coming to power in 2015. A record 437,180 immigrants landed in Canada in 2022. That number is scheduled to rise to 500,000 per year by 2025.
Statistics Canada said that “high job vacancies and labour shortages” have fuelled the high rate of immigration. It also noted Canada’s ageing population, with one in seven residents between the ages of 55 and 64, providing opportunity to welcome more people.
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Why Overpopulation is Actually a Problem
In this Our Changing Climate climate change video essay, I look at why the myth of overpopulation is actually a problem. Specifically, I look at how overpopulation is leading to dangerous conclusions both on the right and the left. On the right, it's leading to conclusions of population control, murder, and ethnic cleansing. On the [FALSE]-left, it manifests as birth control access, but is still couched in the ideas of population control. Overpopulation is ultimately a myth that at best distracts from the needed work of climate action, and at worst leads to violence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqHX2dVn0c8
From the True Left perspective birth is violence since no one consented to being born into this world in the first place.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/humans-verge-population-correction-2099-183600904.html
Humans Are on the Verge of a 'Population Correction' by 2099, Scientist Warns
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Humans pollute and deplete the very resources they need to survive. Bio-ecologist William Rees, professor emeritus at the University of British Columbia’s School of Community and Regional Planning, says it with even a little more gumption. He believes that the exhaustion of resources will lead to a “population correction” in this century.
In a study published in World, Rees calls the entire situation an “advanced overshoot” of population. “We are consuming and polluting the biophysical basis of our own existence,” he wrote.
And it can’t last.
Rees says that climate change is the best-known symptom of this overshoot, but the mainstream solutions will only accelerate climate disruption and worsen the overall problem. “Humanity is exhibiting the characteristic dynamics of a one-off population boom-bust cycle,” he wrote in the study. “The global economy will inevitably contract, and humanity will suffer a major population correction in this century.”
Any such population correction would be a stark about-face from the growth the world has seen over the last two centuries. In 1800, the world’s population hovered around 1 billion people. Now, roughly 200 years later, that population has ballooned to about 8 billion.
The exponential reproduction, as Rees dubs it, has led humans to expand geographically and consume all available resources. And while in history, that expansionist tendency was countered by the natural environment’s “negative feedback,” the increase of scientific resourcefulness and fossil fuels has enabled humans to “realize our full potential for exponential growth.”
So, which one civilization is to blame for this?
But therein lies the issue. Humans can grow and maintain a population only by consuming and extracting the resources from the ecosphere, all while sending waste back in return. That population boom in two centuries, all on a finite planet, “has thus propelled modern techno-industrial society into a state of advanced overshoot.”
Not only is our reliance on fossil fuels impacting various aspects of our existence, but Rees says that additional overshoot stresses—from consuming biomass to upheaval in planetary nutrient cycles—have considerable negative impacts as well. Together, he claims that they push us toward that potentially dire correction.
By relying on our typical short-sighted view of the world that has humans taking what they can when resources are available, we have left ourselves very little room for existence when the availability of resources greatly diminishes.
The only direction to go from here, Rees wrote, is the inevitable correction of our population. That correction could, according to his paper, drop the population to no more than 3 billion and as few as 100 million
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he believes that only the rich will be able to survive the coming correction, noting that a “collapse is not a problem to be solved, but rather the final stage of a cycle to be endured.”
“Global culture is beginning to unravel,” he wrote, “and that the one-off human population boom is destined to bust.”
Who deserves to survive the correction? Those from the civilization which set it up, or those from the civilizations which did not set it up? Yet it appears as though those who are likely to survive it are precisely those who least deserve to survive it.
If we want any realistic chance of a different outcome, we need borders totally open and lots of firearms in the hands of climate refugees.
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This is the idea behind demographic blueshift:
https://twitter.com/dharma__vijay/status/1691898060354498629?s=20
The problem with India is high population density. In Chennai, if I leave my street and go to the main road, it is full of traffic and people. Ideally India needs to capture more land and resettle people in captured land.
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India's population needs to return to pre-colonial numbers:
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The remainder of Indians should emigrate:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg10011/?topicseen#msg10011
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg13119/?topicseen#msg13119
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg13361/?topicseen#msg13361
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg13528/?topicseen#msg13528
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg15800/?topicseen#msg15800
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg20470/?topicseen#msg20470
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg20653/?topicseen#msg20653
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Indian CM Yogi Adityanath proposes population control:
https://theprint.in/opinion/cm-yogis-up-population-control-bill-is-designed-to-serve-only-one-purpose-2022-election/695550/
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https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/09/21/religious-composition-of-india/
Muslims still have the highest fertility rate among India’s major religious groups, followed by Hindus at 2.1. Jains have the lowest fertility rate (1.2). The general pattern is largely the same as it was in 1992, when Muslims had the highest fertility rate at 4.4, followed by Hindus at 3.3. But the gaps in childbearing between India’s religious groups are generally much smaller than they used to be. For example, while Muslim women were expected to have an average of 1.1 more children than Hindu women in 1992, the gap had shrunk to 0.5 by 2015
Common Jain W
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https://twitter.com/IndiccAmsha/status/1740291041356640677
lndicAmsha
@IndiccAmsha
In 1976, during emergency, Sanjay Gandhi forced MusIims and ugIy poor people to undergo mass forced sterilisation, he sterilised 6.2M people in a year and unofficially 11.1M (1cr) in two years, (more than nazis did) and kiIIed many, he was the kind of dictator India needs today.
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What a waste of bloodlines! If only those 11.1M had been encouraged to emigrate to Britain/Canada/Australia/etc. instead!
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I hope this is true, at least:
https://twitter.com/americakaran/status/1727406694001504626
As Indian land values increases alongside lack of good jobs, more Indians will sell their land to finance their sons to fly to El Salvador and trek across the US border
But why only to the US?
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The U.S. is the largest economy in the world and has a lot of job opportunities, compared to other countries.
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https://twitter.com/wayotworld/status/1742286404535665014
PM गुलाग Yojanā Lobbyist
@GulagLobbyist
10% of this $10billion shud be used to fund illegal migration of Indians into Amriki land so we can steal their land , job and tech.
Way of the World
@wayotworld
India is a country of dirty scammers and its government is turning a blind eye to this. There should be international sanctions against India until this STOPS.
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illegal migration of Indians into Amriki land so we can steal their land , job and tech.
I dislike this choice of vocabulary. Firstly, it is legal to claim asylum:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/ilhan-omar/msg16053/#msg16053
Secondly, we are not stealing land as we are not deporting anyone, and we are not stealing jobs or tech as no violence is initiated either by employers choosing to hire those who will work for less pay or experts voluntarily sharing technical knowledge.
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I agree with your points but lowkey I wish we actually were "deporting" (lebensraum) "White" occupiers and acquiring secret enemy technology through espionage. But even then, only espionage could be classified as "stealing" since lebensraum is merely retaliatory violence for the original theft (Manifest Destiny).
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Also, speaking of "scammers", I was reminded about this post:
I think it depends on the kind of scam. If the scam involves appealing to the mark's greed, and the mark falls for it due to being unable to resist temptation, then the mark does deserve it. Whereas if the scam involves appealing to the mark's compassion, and the mark falls for it out of a sincere wish to help a good cause, then the mark of course does not deserve it.
"Does it not occur to them that nobody chooses to be “stupid enough to fall for a scam”? Why would they want that to happen to themselves?"
No one wants to fall for a scam, but many people want profit unearned through honest labour, hence fall for greed scams which apparently offer this to them. Would you agree that X who does not want unearned profit deserves better than Y who does? If so, then since X will avoid the greed scam that Y will fall for, then would you agree that both got what they deserved?
It is true that Z who (like Y) also wants unearned profit but who (unlike Y) is smart enough to see through the greed scam will (like X) also not fall for it, but then it is Z who has not gotten what they deserve. Comparing X to Z, X is still the better person, yet Z by compensating with mere intelligence is doing no worse than X is. Does this not seem unfair to you? Or comparing Y and Z, both are equally bad people, but Z by compensating with mere intelligence is doing better than Y. Does this not seem unfair to you?
We should want a greed scam to exist that both Y and Z fall for, leaving only X unscathed. Do you not want this?
"condoning of scammers"
If the scammer uses only greed scams and is scamming purely to take down Y and Z and all others like them, and then using the gains to help X and others like them, the scammer is doing God's work. If the scammer is in it for personal gain, but still only uses greed scams, at least they are only gaining at the expense of other bad people, which makes them harmless. The only scammers who are our enemies are those who use compassion scams.
So would you say the "scammers" are avenging colonialism?
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"I wish we actually were "deporting" (lebensraum) "White" occupiers"
But this would only increase their number in the countries you would deport them to.
"and acquiring secret enemy technology through espionage."
If doing so would discourage them from further machine innovation (realizing that whatever machine they invent will soon be possessed by everyone, thus negating the advantage associated with possessing it exclusively), then I would support this. However, I by now understand the Western mindset well enough to predict that they would not be discouraged, but instead would only try to develop countermeasures against espionage, probably via even more machine innovation! Thus your method might end up instead further speeding up machine innovation. At the same time, those who acquire a machine even albeit through espionage rather than by invention will nevertheless still be tempted to improve on it (in order to gain an advantage over those who invented the initial model of the same machine), thereby also generating selective pressure for machinism among its own gene pool.
It is better to emphasize that machine innovation is initiated violence in itself, and retaliate directly by assassinating machinists. This may still require using existing machines to carry out in practice (and also motivate machine-based countermeasures), but at least we would also be exerting selective pressure against machinism. If potential machinists react by concealing their talent, this would also make it harder for pro-innovation institutions to find them, thereby also slowing down the rate of machine innovation.
"So would you say the "scammers" are avenging colonialism?"
I would need to know the form of the particular scam.
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"But this would only increase their number in the countries you would deport them to."
I see. The only solution is the Xinjiang solution. Or, if we're being more blunt, the Auschwitz solution.
"I would need to know the form of the particular scam."
It varies. Some of them appeal to greed (e.g. telemarketing). But others appeal to fear (e.g. IRS tax scams). But I would say both avenge colonialism.
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"It varies. Some of them appeal to greed (e.g. telemarketing). But others appeal to fear (e.g. IRS tax scams). But I would say both avenge colonialism."
How do these scams target colonizers only? What if the scammers are colonizers themselves? I am not sure how you are arriving at your conclusion.
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> Scammers are from India (victim of colonialism).
> Scammers target people in Western countries (mostly elderly people, which means mostly "Whites")
> Overall, we see a net transfer of "White" wealth to "non-Whites".
Is this not avenging colonialism?
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"Scammers target people in Western countries (mostly elderly people, which means mostly "Whites")"
There is too much uncertainty here. Some elderly people voluntarily refrained from reproducing. These do not deserve to be targeted by IRS tax scams at least. I also worry that those most likely to fall for IRS tax scams would be left-leaning types, whereas the "sovereign citizens":
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/plebian-hubris/msg18403/#msg18403
would be least likely to fall for them. (If you want to scam MAGA money, you should just claim to be collecting donations for Trump!)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vRCo7Dyw5c (Turn on subtitles)
In this video by Dhruv Rathee, the focus is on the heart-wrenching story of illegal immigration from India, specifically the tragic journey of a family from the small village of Dingucha, Gujarat. The video delves into the realities of "donkey flights," a term for illegal immigration routes, and the dangerous journeys families undertake for a better life in countries like the USA ,UK and Canada. It also explores the broader context of why people risk everything, including political and economic factors, and the role of misleading agents in this perilous process. Donkey Process of illegal immigration has also inspired the story of the movie "Dunki" starring Shah Rukh Khan. Watch as Dhruv Rathee sheds light on this critical issue, blending personal stories with broader social and political insights.
Music video from the movie to lighten up the mood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z79T_o4v8c
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https://www.eurocanadians.ca/2024/01/how-to-start-your-own-country
How to Start Your Own Country
We cannot come to terms with the fact that as a species whiteswe have gone beyond the ability of the planet to accommodate us. We have bred ourselves beyond the limits. We have consumed, polluted, and expanded beyond our means, and after centuries of superficial technological solutions we are now running short of answers. Biologists explain such expansion in terms of “carrying capacity.”
overpopulation and overconsumption lead to die-off. But humans whites cannot come to terms with the concept.
When we were children, nobody told us that any of this would be happening. Nobody told us that the human white spirit would have to face limitations. We were taught that there are no necessary boundaries to human white achievement pollution. We were taught that optimism, realism, and exuberance are just three names for the same thing. In a philosophical sense, therefore, most humans whites never become adults good: they cannot understand limits.
Perhaps there is really nothing irredeemable in all this. We live in a “consumer” society, and we are all under the wheels of the juggernaut of capitalism. But if we look beyond civilization, both spatially and temporally, we can find many cultures with an outlook based more on the seasons of the year, rather than on an ever-expanding, ever-devouring “progress.”
It is the problem of “individualism” selfishness versus “collectivism” that will hit Whites rather hard in the future. Whites are loners. After years of living and working with people from various eastern cultures, I am convinced that if you put a group of Asians on a desert island, they would get together and build a boat. If you put a group of Whites on a desert island, they would start arguing about property rights.
In a typical crowd of Whites, half will deny that any of the aspects of systemic collapse even exist, and most of the other half will say, “Well, I believe . . .” and proceed to spout whatever nonsense their brains have been filled with.
The individualist selfish attitude has always been typical of Whites. There is a sort of frontier mentality that still pervades much of Western life.
Everybody is everybody else’s cousin, so to speak. We may laugh at rural communities for what we regard as their “incestuous” behaviour, but sometimes having close ties is precisely what keeps people alive.
It is not just a platitude to say that we whites are out of touch with Nature.
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https://twitter.com/amphibian_alien/status/1746947312101015624?t=e5s2r62AGUPeNeyZGRc23A&s=19
Already happening as poonjabi and gvlt migration picks up pace. Indian immigrant image most mainly well maintained by gujjus and South Indian broomins who immigrated in the 80s and 90s. No more optics check and high level of assimilation happening these days.
But I think that Indians in America are in roughly the position of northern Blacks prior to the Great Migration. Once more Indians show up here, and the housing crisis reaches a fever pitch, we are going to face a lot more vitriol and xenophobia too.
"Gvlt" = Telegu. Earlier I remarked how some of these Telugus fake their degree certificates. I should also mention some of them cheat during technical interviews for jobs in the IT industry. As more immigrate, we can expect the amount of low quality immigrants to increase also. This will only increase backlash. Of course, this does not excuse the racism, but we must be prepared to deal with it.
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https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1742430178117386267?t=JQCqOM_UJyXpKlE2FTdaCA&s=19
China is projected to have only 9 million babies born in 2023, compared to 13 million in India.
The number of marriages and births have cut in about half over ten years. There’s something going on with East Asians that science doesn’t yet understand. wsj.com/articles/china…
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https://twitter.com/john_bashidui/status/1742566612128215292?t=Yy8hYL0T9JDymCkEILkD0w&s=19
My guess is extreme environmentalism, this misanthropic view is very prevalent in east Asia popular culture, especially in japanese anime.
It has been a long time since I watched anime. Any particular examples that you guys know of?