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Title: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 06, 2020, 02:59:08 am
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www.dailymail.co.uk/mostread/article-6850095/Mexican-president-asks-Spain-apologize-actions-conquest.html

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Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador has demanded an apology from Spain and the Vatican for wrongs committed against indigenous people during the Spanish conquest 500 years ago.
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The Mexican leftist leader said the letter cited massacres that took place during the Spanish conquest at the beginning of the 16th century.

'There were massacres and oppression,' said López Obrador from the archaeological zone in the southeastern state of Tabasco. 'The so-called conquest was carried out with the sword and the cross. They built their churches on top of the temples.'

While looking for a reconciliation with Spain, López Obrador said his government would be publicly apologizing for the abuses the indigenous people.

'I will also do it because after the colony there was a lot of repression of the indigenous peoples,' he said.

This is what I like to see! Bringing the Vatican into it is a fine touch that demonstrates proper historical knowledge.

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'López Obrador's letter is an intolerable offence to the Spanish people,' said Alberto Rivera, head of the center-right Ciudadanos party, in a tweet.

Pablo Casado, the head of Spain's main center-right opposition party, said López Obrador's statement was an 'affront to Spain and its history'.

Spain should have thought about that before they decided to colonize. But of course, being Westerners, they believe the problem is not Western civilization doing evil, but its victims actually daring to raise awareness of it. This attitude is the same attitude that caused the colonial era, and as we can see, nothing has changed.

Anyway, every former Western colony should follow suit! Spain's other former colonies should find it especially easy to do so as they can directly join in the call:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Spanish_Empire_and_Empire_of_Charles_V.svg/1280px-Spanish_Empire_and_Empire_of_Charles_V.svg.png)

And don't forget, if only Spain had remained Andalus, none of the stuff on the map would ever have happened. And if the Spanish/Portugese Empires had not started things off, the other colonial empires might not have followed either. Looking at it this way, Andalus was in effect the portal guardian singlehandedly protecting the whole planet from the horrors of the colonial era. As such, we should not only be demanding apologies from the former colonial powers, but should also be expressing gratitude to Andalus. Ultimately we should be trying to restore Andalus, not only back to what it was, but all the way to what it should have been.

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Someone has joined in!

www.lasexta.com/noticias/nacional/mezquita-ishbilia-sevilla-exige-que-rey-felipe-pida-perdon-reconquista_201903295c9e031f0cf221c687040191.html

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The Ishbilia mosque has published a post on Facebook under the name of the Islamic Community itself and its president, Yihad Sarasua, in expressing “the sentiments among Spanish Muslims and those who for certain reasons, reside in Spain, for the lack of conciliation between the Crown and the heirs of the Andalusian legacy.

“Sir, being the King of Spain, I believe that the historical moment has arrived to carry out the recognition of the vileness, plunder, displacement and murders carried out by orders of the Catholic kings and their most direct collaborators, which culminated with the surrender of Granada and the breach of everything subscribed to the Muslim community,” reads the letter.

Besides, he adds that the Muslims were subjected to a “constant persecution” that left “millions of dead”: “Never has existed such a fierce persecution and eagerness to eliminate a religious community, as was carried out by the old Spanish royalty in the times of Felipe II, (an) extermination that culminated in the War of the Alpujarres subsequent to the Pragmatic Sanction of 1567”.

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news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d514f7767544e34457a6333566d54/index.html

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Fazeli Nashli highlighted the need to understand each other without the "Western go-betweens" while strongly advocating for collaborative research.

"We [Asian civilizations] have similar cultural components. We need to understand each other more because due to the modernity we are very quickly passing from the old traditions to new traditions," he said.

"Before we lose lots of other information, historical and social backgrounds, archaeological background, we need more research activities to establish joint projects, for example between China and Iranian archaeologists, rather than Western scholars telling us about each other," the Iranian archaeologist quipped.

"We need to understand each other because we have a long, long, inter-relationship together dating back to 10,000 years ago. Why in modern times we have to understand our histories from the Western point of view?" he asked.

He recommended civilizational countries such as China, India, Japan, Iran and also other Western, Central and East Asian nations to open their academic facilities and resources for joint research and preservation of archaeological monuments and cities.

"We need more anthropological studies, ethnographic studies, historical studies, archaeological studies to record lots of information on past societies… Academic centers in different countries need to be interconnected so that more scholars can learn from each other," he proposed.

OK, but in that case surely the first thing you need to do is stop using the term "Asian", which itself is nothing but what Westerners have told you that you are! (Or if you must use it, at least put "" around it to show that you despise the term.) Moreover, once you have understood that you are not "Asian", you might realize that a grand decolonizing coalition has no reason to be limited to "Asians", but can and should accomodate all former victims of the Western colonial powers.

Here is a nice gesture, at least:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpCE40qv_uU

On the other hand, beware of our enemies who try to divide us by offering some of us alliance with them in exchange for betraying the rest of us:

vdare.com/articles/john-derbyshire-at-amren-the-arctic-alliance-revisited

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I divide the human race into Arctics and non-Arctics on paleoanthropological grounds. So Arctics are those present-day races whose remote ancestors inhabited the forests and tundra of northern Eurasia—the whites and the yellows, to a first approximation. In my book We Are Doomed I used the synonym “Ice People.”

In the world today, the Arctics exhibit two characteristics that separate them quite clearly from non-Arctics, or “Sun People.”.

**** YOU. We are Sun People.

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Interesting indie news report that spells out much of the above mentioned here, albeit in video form.
Gaddafi was trying to introduce a new African currency before it was -- surprise, surprise -- France that most supported in ousting him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42_-ALNwpUo

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www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-president-praises-ties-with-china-14461

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Maintaining momentum in relations between Turkey and China is crucial to both the welfare of their peoples and international stability, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said, praising the mutual ties during an official visit on July 2.

The president was welcomed by his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping in Beijing before a tête-à-têtes meeting.

“I believe that Turkey and China have great potential for strengthening cooperation,” Erdoğan said following the meeting at Great Hall of the People.

“We are on the same page regarding President Xi’s approach to the initiative, which is not only to improve transport and communication networks, to construct trade corridors and to harmonize trade policies and development strategies but also to boost cultural and human ties in this framework,” he said in an interview with Chinese state-run news agency Xinhua before the meeting.
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The Turkish president highlighted that Turkey is one of the first countries to support China’s Belt and Road, an initiative of regional development and creating new global trade routes.

“There is a natural harmony between our Middle Corridor Initiative and China’s Belt and Road Initiative,” Erdoğan said.

“This harmony allows us to cooperate with China in large geographies such as Central Asia and Africa.”
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“I believe that we will witness together how our relations will be upgraded in all fields when we boost our consultations with our Chinese friends.”

“Our strengthening bilateral cooperation promotes greater interaction between our peoples and facilitates progress in the area of tourism. China marked the Turkey Tourism Year in 2018 and hosted dozens of events around the country,” Erdoğan said, voicing pleasure over the considerable rise in the number of Chinese tourists visiting Turkey.

This is especially encouraging because Turkey is a NATO country while China is a NAM country. This is therefore a step towards our proposed NATO-NAM merger.

Some commentators think Turkey improving its relationship with China equates to Turkey worsening its relationship with the US, but this presumes a diplomatically static US. Actually, there is nothing to stop the US from taking Turkey's cue and improving its relationship with China also (which is what we want).

authenticamericandream.blogspot.com/2018/03/countering-pacific-pivot.html

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Despite his panoramic historical review, Pagden is selective in what he discusses, passing over what does not support his argument. A case in point is Asia Minor, or today’s Turkey. Indeed, he leaves out the Cold War altogether, so important to understanding Turkey. Heir to the Ottoman Empire, Turkey is a member of NATO and an ally of the United States. It played an important role in the containment and ultimate defeat of the Soviet Union. The same can be said about many other Muslim countries that were also allies of the United States against communism. Pagden is forced to neglect the Cold War because it would undermine his attempt to draw a picture of the Muslim world in perpetual conflict with the West.
mepc.org/worlds-war-2500-year-struggle-between-east-and-west

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOE9-eTjI1I

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Iran demonstrates the correct approach to diplomacy with Western states:

theiranproject.com/blog/2019/10/03/iran-calls-on-germany-to-stop-support-for-criminal-israeli-regime/

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The spokesman for the Iranian Foreign Ministry called on Germany to end support for the criminal regime of Israel and to live up to existing expectations of an effective and constructive role in helping to create lasting peace and stability in the region.

The Islamic Republic of Iran considers reducing tension in the region to be possible only through serious confrontation of all parties with destructive, meddlesome and inhumane actions of the Zionist regime [of Isreal,]” Mousavi said.

The Iranian FM spokesman was referring to the devastating crimes of the Zionist regime in Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria.

Mousavi further noted that the Islamic Republic of Iran will continue to support the oppressed nations of the region, including the Palestinian people, based on its adherence to human and Islamic values.

In a statement, the German Foreign Office spokesman underscored his country’s support for the Zionist regime of Israel and called on Iran to be committed to maintaining peaceful relations with the countries of the region and taking practical steps to ease the tensions.

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All initiatives to promote positive relations between former fellow colonized countries should be applauded:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kartarpur_Corridor

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The Kartarpur Corridor (Punjabi/Urdu: کرتارپور راہداری‎, Punjabi: ਕਰਤਾਰਪੁਰ ਲਾਂਘਾ) is a border corridor between Pakistan and India, connecting the Sikh shrines of Dera Baba Nanak Sahib (located in Punjab, India) and Gurdwara Darbar Sahib (in Punjab, Pakistan). The corridor is intended to allow religious devotees from India to visit the Gurdwara in Kartarpur, 4.7 kilometres (2.9 miles) from the Pakistan-India border, without a visa.[1]

The Kartarpur Corridor was first proposed in early 1999 by the prime ministers of India and Pakistan, Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Nawaz Sharif, respectively, as part of the Delhi–Lahore Bus diplomacy.[2][3]

On 26 November 2018, the foundation stone was laid down on the Indian side and after two days, on 28 November 2018, the foundation stone on the Pakistani side was laid down by Prime Minister of Pakistan, Imran Khan. The corridor was completed for the 550th birth anniversary of Guru Nanak Dev on 12 November 2019.[4]

See also:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi%E2%80%93Lahore_Bus

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The Delhi–Lahore Bus, officially known as Sada-e-Sarhad (Hindi: सदा ए सरहद, Translation: Call of the Frontier, Urdu: صدائے سرحد‎),[1] is a passenger bus service connecting the Indian capital of Delhi with the city of Lahore, Pakistan via the border transit post at Wagah. The Routemaster bus number 10 was of symbolic importance to the efforts of the governments of both nations to foster peaceful and friendly relations.[2] In its inaugural run on 19 February 1999, the bus carried the then-Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, who was to attend a summit in Lahore and was received by his Pakistani counterpart, Nawaz Sharif at Wagah.[1][2]
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Despite suspension due to bilateral tensions, the Delhi-Lahore bus remains a symbol of desired friendship between the two nations.[3][5] Since its inception, the bus has frequently carried trade delegations, diplomats and celebrities to both nations, attracting much media coverage. In consideration of the Indian national cricket team's tour of Pakistan in 2004, the Pakistani government permitted 10,000 Indians to travel to watch the cricket matches in Lahore; many of whom travelled via the bus amidst great fanfare at the border; the gesture was reciprocated the following year when the Pakistan national cricket team toured India.

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www.politico.eu/article/council-president-michel-tells-african-leaders-a-changed-europe-wants-new-ties/

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"This changing Europe is looking at Africa with fresh eyes — with respect, optimism and confidence," Michel said, according to a transcript provided by his office.

If so, perhaps you could start by ceasing to use the Eurocentric term "Africa", a term which was never used by the local people themselves prior to the colonial era.

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"I am here today to bear witness to a metamorphosis of this continent but also that of Europe," Michel said. "Your northern neighbor is changing. I am here tonight to speak for 27 European countries. Twenty-two of them never had any colonies. A new generation of leaders is coming to power. They are not hampered by the burden of nostalgia."
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It was unclear which five EU countries Michel was referring to as former colonizers, as Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain all had colonies in Africa, as did the U.K., which left the EU at the end of last month.

This is not funny anymore.

OK, there are indeed some EU countries that did not participate in colonialism. But do these countries feel sentimentally closer to the former victims of colonialism than to the former colonial powers? In practice, do they support the former victims of colonialism seeking accountability from the former colonial powers? If so, we applaud them. But if not, and on the contrary they defend the colonial powers from being held accountable for their pasts, then they too are part of the problem.

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The issue of Europe's colonization of Africa remains a highly sensitive subject. Last year, when Michel was still the Belgian prime minister, a United Nations working group issued a report that found "endemic racism" in the country's government institutions that it traced to its colonial past. The working group issued a long series of recommendations that included urging Belgium to "issue an apology for the atrocities committed during colonization."

The Belgian government issued a response in which it acknowledged modern-day racism but disputed the direct link to colonialism, calling it "an oversimplification."

**** you.

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This on its own is good:

www.aa.com.tr/en/health/china-to-continue-assisting-iran-against-coronavirus/1766434

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China will continue to provide "as much assistance as it can" to Iran to curb the coronavirus outbreak, the country’s president said Saturday.

Xi Jinping said China offered Iran a batch of anti-epidemic supplies and sent a team of voluntary health experts to Iran, state-run Xinhua news agency reported.

On the other hand:

www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/china-sends-essential-coronavirus-supplies-italy-200313195241031.html

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A planeload of medical supplies, including masks and respirators, has arrived in Italy from China to help the European country deal with its growing coronavirus crisis.
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A team of nine Chinese medical staff arrived late on Thursday with some 30 tonnes of equipment on a flight organised by the Red Cross Society of China.

Has China forgotten so quickly about this?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_concession_of_Tientsin

In context, for China to treat a former colonial power (which additionally has only recently been watching refugees drown every day without helping) as well as it treats Iran is actually an insult to Iran.

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Good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8TJfOZV6-A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmoGPXY_zxI

Bad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0oxcoh9rDo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concessions_in_Tianjin#Belgian_concession_.281902.E2.80.931931.29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWcTx9ip_Qk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Protocol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzQrtUcBeA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concessions_in_Tianjin#Austro-Hungarian_concession_(1901%E2%80%931917)

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"I think the leader, Xi Jinping would rather get good reputation from the world for China."

My point is that, when we see China help Western countries (without attaching conditions that function to make them less Western), we should speak badly of China for doing so, thus ensuring that China fails to get good reputation for such actions.

We must often remind people that whatever quantity of help China gives to Western countries is a quantity of help that could have been (but now is not) going to other non-Western countries (which probably need it more), instead going yet again to countries that already stole so much from China (and from other non-Western countries!) during the colonial era.

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I agree. We should do the same for Iran. The current foreign minister is particularly annoying,  always seeking clout from Westerners, effectively behaving as though he is some status seeking “non white” high school teenager. This is unbecoming of any proper statesman, let alone a high level government official.

It is also no coincidence that such actions are praised by Jews.

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"So is China Western or non Western?"

Still non-Western overall for now (hence my wording "other non-Western countries" when referring to countries that China should concentrate on helping), but in danger of Westernization if it is not careful.

Unfortunately, it is comically Eurocentric:

whenonearth.net/11-fake-european-towns-landmarks-made-china/

This sickness is what we are here to cure.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 06, 2020, 03:01:42 am
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"Could it have anything about the Qing Dynasty was a Manchurian dynasty instead of being a Han one?"

But the Italian concession was held until 1947, and the Belgian concession until 1931, whereas the Qing dynasty fell in 1911. Nor did Spain give back to post-1911 China the money it stole from the Qing dynasty.

Moreover, the Qing dynasty itself had ceased to be racist long ago:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yongzheng_Emperor

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Ethnicity in Qing China could vary depending on where one was from even locally in China. This ethnic separation along with the booming population led to reduced access to the Civil Service Examinations based on ethnicity and locality. The Yongzheng emperor, in an attempt to allow for as many people to take the Civil Service Examination as possible, set up special exams for people in rural China. These special exams were called Miao exams and were located in Yunnan. In the 1730s, landholding shed people such as the Hakka were still not allowed to take the exams, Yongzheng made it legal for these people to take the exams in an attempt to dispel anger at being excluded from the exams.[13]

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My warning to China against their sending aid to former colonial powers has been vindicated now that they are accusing China of sending faulty equipment.

If you send them equipment, they can deliberately damage it off-camera and then claim it was already damaged on arrival, thus both wasting the equipment itself and giving them an easy way to frame you.

If you don't send them equipment, you both save the equipment (which you could then send to those who actually need it most ie. formerly colonized countries) and give them no opportunity to frame you.

I hope China has learned its lesson about how (not) to interact with Westerners. As if the colonial era had not been enough?

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Here is a commendable initiative: a CGTN channel in Arabic language. Why should formerly colonized peoples be limited to using the languages of our common colonizers when we talk to one another? We should also learn and use one another's languages, just like we did in ancient times before Western civilization turned up and ruined everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlGj1RdUHUM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOzVmbx_qkE

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This is how we need to talk to Westerners:

www.yahoo.com/news/iran-says-germany-face-consequences-over-hezbollah-ban-075320755.html

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Tehran (AFP) - Iran has slammed Germany's ban on the activities of Lebanon's Hezbollah movement on its soil, saying it would face consequences for its decision to give in to Israeli and US pressure.

Germany branded Hezbollah a "Shiite terrorist organisation" on Thursday, with dozens of police and special forces storming mosques and associations across the country linked to the Lebanese militant group.

In a statement issued overnight, Iran's foreign ministry said the ban ignores "realities in West Asia".

The Islamic republic said the move was based solely on the goals of the "propaganda machine of the Zionists and America's confused regime".

It "strongly" condemned the decision it said showed "complete disrespect to the government and nation of Lebanon, as Hezbollah is a formal and legitimate part of the country's government and parliament".

I especially like the reference to "America's confused regime". This implies that America has the potential to become unconfused and hence side with Hezbollah against Israel (and Western civilization more broadly).

Just one thing, stop with the Eurocentric "West Asia" label. Use either "Middle East":

(https://multichannelmerchant.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/middleeastimage.jpg)

or, if you want to be cool, "Seven Seas":

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/O1xHV9Pos1Y/maxresdefault.jpg)

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More, please!

www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16003/iran-venezuela-ties

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Iran has been bypassing US sanctions amid the coronavirus crisis, and strengthening its ties with Venezuela.

Reports recently revealed that in the last week of April alone, the sanctioned Iranian airline, Mahan Air, with ties to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), made several flights to the South American nation. Reportedly, the Iranian regime delivered "parts, technicians, and gasoline additives to fix a major refinery in Venezuela," and received nine tons of gold bars in return.
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Tehran has not only been using Venezuela for military cooperation, but also, it seems, to advance its nuclear program. Venezuela has been accused of covertly assisting Iran with the production of raw material for nuclear weapons as well as ballistic missiles. In recent years, Iran and Venezuela have also signed several military and industrial agreements.

The ruling mullahs in Iran appear have been using Venezuela as part of a larger agenda for increasing Iran's influence and the presence of its proxies in Latin and North America.

The US, in fact, has evidently become increasingly concerned about Hezbollah's presence in Venezuela. Ambassador Nathan Sales, Coordinator for Counterterrorism at the State Department, said recently:

"We're concerned that Maduro has extended safe harbor to a number of terrorist groups, the ELN [National Liberation Army] in particular, but also FARC [the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia] dissidents who rejected the peace accord, as well as supporters and sympathizers of Hezbollah."

It is worth recalling that as early as 1992, Hezbollah, under Iranian control, was reportedly behind the bombing of the Israeli embassy in Argentina. Twenty-three people were killed and nearly 250 injured. Again, in 1994, Hezbollah, under the direction of Iran, bombed the headquarters of the Asociación Mutual Israelita Argentina (AMIA). That attack killed 85 people and injured hundreds more.

In addition, Venezuela has granted more than 173 passports to radical Islamists, according to the Washington-based Center for a Secure Free Society (SFS), in a report entitled, "Canada on Guard: Assessing the Threat of Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba to Immigration Security." The passports are able to be used for travel to North America and Europe.

Iran, from perspective of its regime, can more effectively damage US national interests as well as undermine the West on the global stage by partnering with other anti-Western states. Iran's former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad pointed out:

"We [non-Western governments] have to develop a proper cooperation among the developing nations in order to wriggle ourselves from the domination of the western powers. And this effort is going on among the independent developing nations today. We have to establish a collective effort with a view to create [sic] a new international independent economic system that should be on the basis of justice."

And the best possible move by the US is to see itself as a non-Western state also, and join in the anti-Western coalition! This is what we are here to promote.

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https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/05/15/625425/Iranian-fuel-en-route-to-Venezuela-despite-US-sanctions

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R9TaPWyPhQ

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China is boosting medical aid to African countries fighting COVID-19. It has dispatched necessary supplies and equipment to countries such as Tanzania and Algeria. Egypt received a third batch of donations on Saturday. In Algeria, medical experts gave prevention guidance for employees at a Chinese firm in the capital Algiers. The Africa Center for Disease Control and Prevention has commended its Chinese counterpart for their efforts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mty2ebGSqk

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China and Japan have been supporting each other during the COVID-19 pandemic and that truly reflects good neighborliness, Guo Weimin, spokesperson for the third session of the 13th National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), said during a video conference on Wednesday when answering a question from the Japanese media. He said Chinese President Xi Jinping will pay a state visit to Japan at an appropriate time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP0WwL1mAgI

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How to tell Trump to STFU:

www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-doubles-down-on-rejection-of-trump-s-offer-to-mediate-on-standoff-with-china/story-BCm5j0Nly8mo9oimko4JEL.html

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The Indian government on Friday doubled down on its rejection of US President Donald Trump’s offer to mediate on the border standoff with China, with people familiar with developments dismissing the American leader’s contention he had discussed the face-off with Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
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The clarification came hours after Trump reiterated his offer to mediate between India and China to resolve a standoff between the border troops of the two countries during a briefing at the White House early on Friday (Indian time).

The external affairs ministry had on Thursday tacitly rejected Trump’s initial offer to mediate, made through a tweet on Wednesday, by saying India is directly engaged with China to peacefully resolve the standoff.
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“Yesterday [Thursday], the external affairs ministry had made it clear that we are directly in touch with the Chinese through established mechanisms and diplomatic contacts,” the person added.

This is the second time that New Delhi has called out such a claim by Trump regarding mediation between India and another country. In July 2019, India had dismissed Trump’s remarks, at a joint news briefing along with Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan, that Modi had asked him to help resolve the Kashmir issue.

Looking ahead:

www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-05/28/c_139094747.htm

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"We should adhere to the basic judgment that China and India are each other's opportunities and pose no threat to each other. We need to see each other's development in a correct way and enhance strategic mutual trust," he said.

"We should correctly view our differences and never let the differences shadow the overall situation of bilateral cooperation," he said, adding that at the same time, the two countries should gradually seek understanding through communication and constantly resolve differences.
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Noting this year marks the 70th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between China and India, Sun said as two major emerging economies, China and India should strengthen practical cooperation in investment, production capacity and other fields, and expand the cake of common interests.
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Sun hoped the youth of China and India will contribute more wisdom and strength to promoting China-India friendship and the development of bilateral relations.

The Chinese envoy urged Indian youth to actively voice their support for China-India friendship, and called on all parties to make concrete efforts to implement the consensus reached by leaders of the two countries.
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Chairman of Confederation of Young Leaders (CYL) Himadrish Suwan from the Indian side hosted the webinar. More than 70 youth representatives from all over India and journalists from Indian and Chinese media were present.

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Solidarity:

www.jpost.com/middle-east/ali-khamenei-reacts-to-george-floyd-protests-tweets-black-lives-matter-629677

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Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei responded to the US race protests, tweeting that "if you're dark-skinned walking in the US, you can't be sure you'll be alive in the next few minutes."

In a tweet appealing to the American Left, Khamenei spoke about the US economic issues and the killing of 46-year-old George Floyd who was choked to death by a police officer in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
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"In the US, for every $100 of white families' wealth, African-American families only [make] $5. While African Americans make up 9% of the population of Los Angeles, they comprise one third of the homeless in LA."

The Islamic Republic's leader added that "in the year 2015, unemployment rate in the US was 10.4% for blacks and 4.7% for whites. Life expectancy in the US [is] 71 years for blacks [and] 76 years for whites."
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Appealing to African-Americans, Khamenei said the "question of racism has not been solved yet in the country that claims to support freedom and human rights. A human, for his black skin, has no reassurance to in society, if indeed, a police officer can beat him to death because of his colored skin."

The ayatollah continued, saying, "How can they claim to support human rights? Despite the fact that African Americans represent only 13% of the American society, 25% of the victims of police brutality are black."

www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/05/29/626374/Iran-US-George-floyd-African-Americans-police-brutality

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The Iranian Foreign Ministry has strongly denounces rampant bloodshed of African-Americans in the United States and the country’s suppression of the protests that have followed the recent grisly murder of a black man by a white police officer in Minneapolis.

“Iran regrets the tragic murder of black Americans, denounces deadly racial profiling in the United States & urges authorities to do justice for every case,” the ministry said in a tweet on Friday.
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The Iranian Foreign Ministry said, “The protesters' voice must be heard. In doing so, suppressing the suffering Americans & press freedom must URGENTLY be stopped.”

Earlier, Ministry Spokesman Abbas Mousavi had also said that the “brutal killing” of Floyd ”in cold blood” was “a harrowing demonstration of systematic racism and white supremacism.”

He had regretted that such racism and white supremacy that has enabled Floyd’s murder were being “glorified by the current [US] administration.”

Iranian people, meanwhile, held a gathering in the northwestern holy city of Mashhad, mourning Floyd’s death and lighting up candles in his memory.

What was colonialism if not 500 years of white supremacists' knees on all our necks?

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This is what happens when there is no coordination between non-Western countries:

nationalinterest.org/blog/skeptics/why-did-china-and-iran-take-opposite-sides-america%E2%80%99s-protests-159406

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“We deeply regret to see the American people, who peacefully seek respect and no more violence, are suppressed indiscriminately and met with outright violence,” said Iranian foreign ministry spokesman Abbas Mousavi in an English video message released on Monday. “The world has heard your outcry.”
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But the Global Times, a newspaper run by China’s ruling Communist Party, seemed to bash the protests as it portrayed American and Chinese dissenters alike as a lawless horde.

“The Chinese government has not shown any support for the riots in the U.S. I hope that Americans notice Beijing’s restraint,” said Global Times editor-in-chief Hu Xijin in a video message. “Burning police stations, blocking roads, smashing shops, and destroying public facilities in Minneapolis and other places are exactly the same violence in the Hong Kong demonstrations.”

WTF? Well, here is the answer:

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/mr-president-dont-go-hide-china-goads-us-over-george-floyd-protests

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Zhao also retweeted numerous comments and reports on the protests, including from Russia’s deputy representative to the UN, accusing the US of double standards. “Why US denies China’s right to restore peace and order in HK while brutally dispersing crowds at home?” said Dmitry Polyanskiy.

China needs to follow Iran, not Russia (one of its colonizers FFS!). Or else it will keep walking into one propaganda embarassment after another.

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Japan shows some spine:

www.yahoo.com/news/japan-declines-join-u-others-095846083.html

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TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan has decided not join the United States, Britain and others in issuing a statement scolding China for imposing a new security law, Kyodo news agency reported on Sunday, citing officials from countries involved.

The United Kingdom, the U.S., Australia and Canada condemned China on May 28 for imposing a law that they said would threaten freedom and breach a 1984 Sino-British agreement on the autonomy of the former colony.

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Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 06, 2020, 03:26:41 am
OLD CONTENT contd.

All part of the Duginist plan:

www.fort-russ.com/2020/06/major-india-to-make-an-emergency-purchase-of-33-russian-fighter-jets-to-counter-china/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2brKxT0gUU

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"I have seen comments on India vs China videos from Russians who say they are in “solidarity” with India."

And you can be quite sure that there is no shortage of Indian Eurocentrists who are flattered by the solidarity. Ugh.....

Our propaganda approach should emphasize the pre-colonial-era peaceful and friendly relations between India and China (you know, back when Russia didn't even exist yet):

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China–India_relations#Early_history

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The first records of contact between China and India were written during the 2nd century BCE. Buddhism was transmitted from India to China in the 1st century CE.[30] Trade relations via the Silk Road acted as economic contact between the two regions.

China and India have also had some contact before the transmission of Buddhism. References to a people called the Chinas, are found in ancient Indian literature. The Indian epic Mahabharata (c. 5th century BCE) contains references to "China", which may have been referring to the Qin state which later became the Qin dynasty.
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In the Records of the Grand Historian, Zhang Qian (d. 113 BCE) and Sima Qian (145–90 BCE) make references to "Shendu", which may have been referring to the Indus Valley (the Sindh province in modern Pakistan), originally known as "Sindhu" in Sanskrit. When Yunnan was annexed by the Han dynasty in the 1st century, Chinese authorities reported an Indian "Shendu" community living there.[31]
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From the 1st century onwards, many Indian scholars and monks travelled to China, such as Batuo (fl. 464–495 CE)—first abbot of the Shaolin Monastery—and Bodhidharma—founder of Chan/Zen Buddhism—while many Chinese scholars and monks also travelled to India, such as Xuanzang (b. 604) and I Ching (635–713), both of whom were students at Nalanda University in Bihar. Xuanzang wrote the Great Tang Records on the Western Regions, an account of his journey to India, which later inspired Wu Cheng'en's Ming dynasty novel Journey to the West, one of the Four Great Classical Novels of Chinese literature.
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Tamil dynasties[edit]
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The Cholas maintained good relationship with the Chinese. Arrays of ancient Chinese coins have been found in the Cholas homeland (i.e. Thanjavur, Tiruvarur and Pudukkottai districts of Tamil Nadu, India).[32]

Under Rajaraja Chola and his son Rajendra Chola, the Cholas had strong trading links with Chinese Song dynasty.[33][34][35] The Chola navy conquered the Sri Vijaya Empire of Indonesia and Malaysia and secured a sea trading route to China.[33]

Many sources describe Bodhidharma, the founder of the Zen school of Buddhism in China, as a prince of the Pallava dynasty.[36]

Tang and Harsha dynasties[edit]
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During the 8th century, the astronomical table of sines by the Indian astronomer and mathematician, Aryabhatta (476–550), were translated into the Chinese astronomical and mathematical book of the Treatise on Astrology of the Kaiyuan Era (Kaiyuan Zhanjing), compiled in 718 CE during the Tang Dynasty.[37] The Kaiyuan Zhanjing was compiled by Gautama Siddha, an astronomer and astrologer born in Chang'an, and whose family was originally from India. He was also notable for his translation of the Navagraha calendar into Chinese.

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In this context, there should be no difficulty in deriding Western attempts to set the two countries against each other, especially in light of the Western history of colonizing both countries (plus many others in the region!).

www.picfa.in/

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Correlations there are indeed:

“Support democracy movements”
This from a self proclaimed Indian “nationalist”

WTF? India should try to emulate China’s non-democratic style of governance! After all, is India not a non-Western country? At least the current PM is willing to collaborate diplomatically with fellow non-Western nations...

Here’s another gold one:

>Quotes Winston **** Churchill of all people
>Expects to be taken seriously

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us.yahoo.com/news/trump-superfan-burns-posters-chinese-110000817.html

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A man burns posters of the Chinese leader, Xi Jinping, in southern India to boycott China-made products after 20 soldiers were martyred in a violent face-off with Chinese troops in Ladakh's Galway valley on June 15, 2020. The video was filmed in Jangaon, Telangana on June 19, 2020. The video shows the man identified as Bussa Krishna and is burning the posters of the Chinese leader. Further in the video, he can be seen stomping on the poster while thrashing it with his shoes. He is allegedly known as the 'Trump Super Fan.' He previously erected a life-size statue of Donald Trump when he visited India.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 06, 2020, 03:29:06 am
China has found the correct narrative for de-escalating tensions with India:

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The China-India border line was created by the UK, leaving many problems for both countries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MjPBIDeLJA

Just brilliant.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6LLGcBvFQh8/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 15, 2020, 02:33:10 am
https://us.yahoo.com/news/lebanon-looks-china-us-arabs-060358312.html

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In recent months, the Lebanese pound has lost around 80% of its value against the dollar, prices have soared uncontrollably, and much of its middle class has been plunged into poverty. Talks with the International Monetary Fund for a bailout have faltered, and international donors have refused to unlock $11 billion pledged in 2018, pending major economic reforms and anti-corruption measures.

Left with few choices, Prime Minister Hassan Diab’s government — supported by the Iran-backed Hezbollah and its allies — is seeking help from China, an approach that the Shiite militant group strongly supports.

I strongly support this approach also.

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He said China has offered to help end Lebanon’s decades-long electrical power crisis through its state companies, an offer the government is considering.

In addition, Beijing has offered to build power stations, a tunnel that cuts through the mountains to shorten the trip between Beirut and the eastern Bekaa Valley, and a railway along Lebanon’s coast, according to the official and an economist.

The U.S., which has historic relations with Lebanon and is a strong backer of its army, said such a move could come at the expense of Beirut’s relations with Washington.

My advice would be to totally ignore the Trump administration and hope that things can be patched up later under a Biden administration.

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Hezbollah has advocated for a bigger role for China and other allies in Lebanon. The group had opposed an IMF program to get Lebanon out of its crisis, fearing it would come with political conditions. But it begrudgingly accepted that Lebanon engage in the negotiations as long as the IMF didn't dictate policy.

Seventeen rounds of talks between the government and the IMF since mid-May have failed to make any progress.
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Moukalled, who visited China several times in 2018 and 2019, said the projects that China has offered to work on are worth $12.5 billion.

The investments can be mutually beneficial. China can gain from close relations with Lebanon, with the country serving as a launch pad for the reconstruction of neighboring Syria, another Beijing ally.

Yes!

(https://www.beltandroad.news/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/8702574824507020.jpg)

This is also a good way to encourage China to eventually cease to recognize Israel.

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Russian Ambassador Alexander Zasypkin told the daily al-Joumhouria that Russia, China, Syria, Iran and Iraq can help Lebanon. He added that when the West refused, “the alternative to look east became more persistent.”

Russia needs to STFU. It does not speak for China, Syria, Iran and Iraq, and to act as though it does is extremely rude. It is itself a Western country, a former colonial power which has yet to return many of the lands it has stolen. One day we need to cut Moscow from the Belt & Road:

(https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fgreatspeculations%2Ffiles%2F2018%2F09%2Fcomm-mapping-the-belt-and-road-initiatives-progress-08312018-e1536080587677.jpg)

and then choke out Russia with it.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on July 15, 2020, 09:15:06 am
"former colonial power"
Could we say that Russia practiced non-imperial colonialism? I see many False Leftists (and Duginists) defend Russia's actions from an "anti-imperialist" point of view.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 15, 2020, 03:02:25 pm
"Could we say that Russia practiced non-imperial colonialism?"

No:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/alaska/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on July 15, 2020, 03:15:04 pm
"No"
Which begs the question, is there even such a thing as "non-imperial colonialism"?
Title: Re: China and United States Relations
Post by: guest5 on July 21, 2020, 10:46:02 pm
China & Iran reach historic deal, US freaks out
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China and Iran have agreed to a broad-ranging 25-year economic and military deal with worldwide implications and in defiance of US geopolitical interests. RT’s Paula Slier shares the details. Then Amb. Majid Takht Ravanchi, Iranian ambassador to the UN, joins Rick Sanchez for an exclusive interview to share his insights on the deal. He also weighs in on Iran’s fraught relationship with the US and Israel, Tehran’s role in the region, and other pressing issues facing his country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBH1T4F94rU
Title: Re: China and United States Relations
Post by: guest5 on July 23, 2020, 09:17:01 am
The Point: Why are media outlets making China-Iran cooperation sound so scary?
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In this week's Headline Buster, we'll look at recent media reports on China-Iran cooperation, as news of a potential 25-year pact between the two countries emerges. Although neither side has confirmed the pact, some media outlets have jumped on the news, focusing more on perceived threats than pragmatism. Some articles argue a deal would be more about defying the U.S. than mutually benefiting the two countries. Others suggest Iran is being pushed into China's arms, against its will. Why are media portraying this long-term partnership as a new menace?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlSBhaKEONU
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 27, 2020, 11:39:06 pm
I do not mind this at all:

https://theconversation.com/how-china-lost-central-and-eastern-europe-142416

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Central and eastern European countries used to be buoyant about benefiting from China’s economic largesse, but now – like the EU itself – many view Beijing as a threat. It’s unlikely that a Chinese government that is increasingly preoccupied with its own regime stability will be able to make up, let alone repair, the damage done by the multiple opportunities missed over the past eight years.

China needs to learn a lesson - the hard way if necessary - about who are, and (arguably more importantly) who are not, its allies. Reliable alliances cannot be built on economic incentives alone. Only our shared history as fellow victims of colonialism can unify us in a pact of true devotion, based on common hostility towards Western civilization. Turandom, however, is now the centre of that very Western civilization we are fundamentally hostile towards, therefore it is naive to believe alliance with Turandom is possible.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 18, 2020, 12:18:02 am
Signs of spine?

https://tfipost.com/2020/07/this-is-our-land-china-now-claims-russias-vladivostok-as-part-of-its-territory

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Chinese internet users, including diplomats and officials, claim that Vladivostok used to be a part of China. They claim it was Qing’s Manchurian homeland but was annexed by the Russian empire in 1860 after China was defeated by the British and the French during the Second Opium war.

Shen Shiweim, a journalist at the Chinese State-run broadcaster, China Global Television Network (CGTN) tweeted, “This “tweet” of #Russian embassy to #China isn’t so welcome on Weibo. The history of Vladivostok (literally ‘Ruler of the East’) is from 1860 when Russia built a military harbor. But the city was Haishenwai as Chinese land, before Russia annexed it via unequal Treaty of Beijing.”
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China’s claims over Russia’s Vladivostok are not limited to the state-owned media. Even Chinese diplomats have jumped in. Zhang Heqing, a wolf-warrior from China currently stationed at the country’s Mission in Pakistan said, “Isn’t this what in the past was our Haishenwai?”

Meanwhile, the CCP IT cell too has gone berserk. A Weibo user wrote, “Today we can only endure, but the Chinese people will remember, and one generation after another will continue to remember!” SCMP quotes another user as saying, “We must believe that this ancestral land will return home in the future!”

Background:

https://www.russia-briefing.com/news/dangers-building-ultra-patriotism-chinese-claim-vladivostok-haishenwai.html/

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Having been battered by British and French during this war, China learned of Russia’s strategic build-up of military presence on its shared northern border. Russia was only willing to withdraw troops if China were to cede territory along this border.

Facing potential attacks by Russia from the north and the onslaught of British and French forces on the south, the Qing dynasty was compelled to comply with Russia demands to stave off invasion on at least one front. This led to the signing of the Treaty of Aigun in 1858, that formed much of the present day borders between Russia and China, along the Amur River. The Chinese have historically called this treaty an “unequal treaty”, one in a series of treaties signed between the Qing dynasty and neighbouring states in the region.

Russian diplomat Count Nikolay Pavlovich Ignatyev had witnessed the havoc and plunder that the British and French had unleashed upon Beijing, including engaging in loot and plunder and the burning down of the Old Summer Palace, specifically ordered by Britain’s Lord Elgin. Elgin, having set his eyes on the loot and destruction of the Forbidden City next, urged the Chinese to sit at the negotiating table with Ignatyev as the mediator in what came to be known as the Convention of Peking between China, Russia, Britain and France.

As a result of this convention, in October 1860, the British acquired the Kowloon Peninsula and control over Hong Kong. Among other agreements, opium was made legal, a move that economically benefited France and Britain. From China’s perspective, these agreements were exploitative and sharply skewed in favour of the two western nations.

Knowing how desperately China was trying to protect its capital, Ignatyev pushed for the Qing rulers to accept the terms of the agreements, and also threw in what the Chinese call “Outer Manchuria” for Russia, an area significantly larger than what it had originally desired. One part of this territory is now called the Primorsky Krai. According to Lukin, the Russian government had already established a military outpost in the region even before signing a formal treaty of cessation with the Qing dynasty.

This area of the Primorsky Krai, along with the Golden Horn Bay, with its administrative capital as Vladivostok, became an important sea port for Russia and allowed the country to expand economic and military influence in this part of the Pacific. It is also known as the Russian Maritime Province. Today, Vladivostok is the base for the Russian Pacific Fleet.

(https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Semiha_Karaoglu/publication/338659850/figure/fig4/AS:848414883463169@1579289279887/Greater-Manchuria-Russian-outer-Manchuria-is-the-lighter-red-region-to-the-upper-right_Q640.jpg)

(https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2017/06/f114660d2bf5452994135c4c.gif)

(https://i.redd.it/qsqtszypd4rz.jpg)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 04, 2020, 11:32:10 pm
https://barenakedislam.com/2020/10/04/turkish-dictator-recep-tayyip-erdogan-threatens-to-re-conquer-our-illegally-conquered-city-of-jerusalem/

(https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Screen-Shot-2020-10-04-at-4.35.58-PM.png)

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“In this city that we were force out of during the First World War, it is still possible to come across traces of the Ottoman resistance. So Jerusalem is our city, a city from us,” he told Turkish lawmakers during a major policy speech in Ankara. “Our first qibla [direction of prayer in Islam] al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem are the symbolic mosques of our faith.

Erdogan is absolutely correct:

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Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 24, 2020, 11:56:09 pm
Erdogan demonstrates the correct way to speak to leaders of former Western colonial powers:

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ISTANBUL/PARIS (Reuters) - France recalled its ambassador on Saturday after Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said his counterpart Emmanuel Macron needed mental help over his attitude towards Muslims.
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The French leader this month declared war on "Islamist separatism", which he believes is taking over some Muslim communities in France.

France has since been shaken by the beheading of a teacher by an Islamist radical, avenging the use of cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in a class on freedom of expression.

"What is the problem of this person called Macron with Muslims and Islam? Macron needs treatment on a mental level," Erdogan said in a speech in the central Turkish city of Kayseri.

"What else can be said to a head of state who does not understand freedom of belief and who behaves in this way to millions of people living in his country who are members of a different faith?" Erdogan added.

(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180619164108-02-turkish-elections-erdogan-tease.jpg)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on October 25, 2020, 01:36:13 pm
Erdogan criticises Macron and far-right Dutch politician
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Turkish President Erdogan says Macron is “bewildered” and warns far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders of his “fascist” stance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcpoTcgMszs

Ottoman military music surprise from Pakistan Navy
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Turkish Defence Minister Hulusi Akar was greeted with Ottoman military music during his visit to the training facilities of the Pakistan Navy in Karachi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgAE2oicNBY
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on October 25, 2020, 03:40:57 pm
Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan criticises French President Macron
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"By attacking Islam, clearly without having any understanding of it, President Macron has attacked and hurt the sentiments of millions of Muslims in Europe and across the world.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRcUpkqjmN0
Title: France recalls ambassador from Turkey after 'unacceptable' Erdogan comments :D
Post by: guest5 on October 25, 2020, 06:44:01 pm
France recalls ambassador from Turkey after 'unacceptable' Erdogan comments
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France on Saturday said it was recalling its envoy to Turkey for consultations after comments by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggesting French counterpart Emmanuel Macron needed a mental health check-up that Paris condemned as unacceptable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oaSagn0Yds

What happened to western "Freedom of Expression"? That dissolved pretty quick once a Frenchmen got his feelings hurt aye!? Western colonial attitude at it's finest!

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Jack Hainings
7 hours ago
Freedom of speech right there!

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A 6
7 hours ago
It's freedom of speech. Europe can say anything they want. But someone else say it. It hurts. Double standard


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danger mouse
5 hours ago
I see there are millions of Hindus love Macron/France - so next time France decide to bomb another country or invade and steal their resources - India will be a good place and you will not get any terrorist. Learn your lessons.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on October 26, 2020, 12:46:08 pm
Erdogan calls for boycott on French products
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Turkey’s President Erdogan calls for boycott of French products, responding in kind to France
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q412msBHMYw

Outrage over Macron’s anti-Islam comments lead to protests
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Mass protests and calls to boycott French goods are growing around the world after President Emmanuel Macron's comments against Islam. We speak to Lecturer in the Department of Political Science at the Turkish-German University Dr Enes Bayrakli.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dm069iwFeY
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 26, 2020, 12:50:33 pm
Action must follow words:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/muslims-call-french-goods-boycott-151205152.html

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Muslims in the Middle East and beyond on Monday broadened their calls for boycotts of French products and protests, as a clash over depictions of the Prophet Muhammad and the limits of free speech intensified.
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On Monday, hashtags in Arabic on Twitter calling for French boycotts were trending high. Qatar University postponed its French cultural week indefinitely, saying its administration views insults to Islam and its symbols as unacceptable.

In Kuwait, a number of stores had removed French products like Kiri cheese, Perrier sparkling water and Activia yogurt from their shelves.

The owner of Carrefour stores in the Middle East issued a statement saying the brand is a fully owned and operated business of the United Arab Emirates-based Majid Al Futtaim. The company said it understands there is some concern among consumers across the region but noted that it employs 37,000 people and is “proud to be from the region and for the region.”

Others on Twitter criticized what they said is France’s hypocrisy and bias against Muslims. One cartoon widely shared put forth the argument that caricatures of Muslims are defended in “The West” as fair game under freedom of speech protections, while caricatures of Jews are labeled hate speech.

In France, a law aimed at addressing the country's role during Nazi occupation specifically mentions that anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial are crimes

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Already, a small rally was held Monday in the Gaza Strip outside the French cultural center with people carrying banners showing photos of Maron with an “X” over his face. They held banners that read: “Despite Macron’s malice, we prevail for our Prophet”.

In Pakistan, the leader of a radical Islamic party called on people to hold a rally against France on Friday in the eastern city of Lahore to mark the Prophet Muhammad’s birthday, which is traditionally a time of celebration.

Meanwhile, groups ranging from the Taliban in Afghanistan to Hezbollah in Lebanon have condemned Macron’s defense of caricatures depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pakistan-summons-french-envoy-voice-122919796.html

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Turkish leader Tayyip Erdogan asked his compatriots to stop buying French goods on Monday in the latest expression of anger in the Muslim world over images being displayed in France of the Prophet Mohammad, which some Muslims consider blasphemous.

In Bangladesh on Monday, protesters unfurled placards with a caricature of French President Emmanuel Macron and the words: "Macron is the enemy of peace", while Pakistan summoned France's ambassador in Islamabad to issue a protest.

Erdogan, who has a history of fraught relations with Macron, said France was pursuing an anti-Islam agenda.

"I am calling to all my citizens from here to never help French brands or buy them," Erdogan said.

In Turkey, French autos are among the highest selling cars, and French-Turkish bilateral trade overall was worth nearly $15 billion last year. The Turkish president has made similar boycott calls in the past, including an appeal not to buy U.S. electronic goods in 2018 which was not followed through.

Erdogan on Monday joined a chorus of voices elsewhere calling for a boycott. In Kuwait city, a supermarket had stripped its shelves of L'Oreal cosmetics and skincare products after the cooperative union to which it belongs decided to stop stocking French goods.

BOYCOTT FRANCE!

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(https://images.assettype.com/swarajya%2F2020-10%2Fbad9c322-8e71-4d63-9d28-3d7cb32a2e69%2FEk_t__9W0AI4fKv.jpg)

It is important that non-Muslim former victims of Western colonialism (especially former victims of French colonialism) join in this boycott. All former victims of Western colonialism must stand together against Western civilization!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/EmpireFrench.png/1920px-EmpireFrench.png)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMG4plnwI1Y
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: Prite on October 27, 2020, 02:56:33 am
I read that Macron would be better than Le Pen. What's your opinion now?

https://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/french-election-2017/comment-page-1/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 27, 2020, 03:46:10 am
Unchanged. Le Pen has criticized Macron for still not being Islamophobic enough despite Macron's recent insane Islamophobia.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: Prite on October 27, 2020, 11:10:45 am
Unchanged. Le Pen has criticized Macron for still not being Islamophobic enough despite Macron's recent insane Islamophobia.

Would it be better if Jean-Luc Mélenchon won?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_M%C3%A9lenchon
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on October 27, 2020, 12:46:04 pm
Unchanged. Le Pen has criticized Macron for still not being Islamophobic enough despite Macron's recent insane Islamophobia.

Would it be better if Jean-Luc Mélenchon won?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_M%C3%A9lenchon

Have not read his entire wiki page yet but just skimming through it this stuck out to me, interesting:
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Mélenchon has himself his vision of populism, which he sees as positive if it comes with a left ideology. He is inspired by the philosopher Chantal Mouffe, who sought to theorise and rehabilitate the term "left populism". This theory argues that neoliberalism and austerity only made the far-right stronger and that the word "people" has to be reintroduced into the political sphere in a civic sense rather than an ethnic way (creating a "right populism" to fight).

I'm impressed by this. We need more leftists such as the type Melenchon is advocating for in the above sentences.

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Mélenchon has voiced his support for Rattachism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattachism
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 27, 2020, 11:12:00 pm
"Would it be better if Jean-Luc Mélenchon won?"

Not really:

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Following the killing of major general Qasem Soleimani, Mélenchon tweeted: "We must equally condemn the USA and Iran as warmongers. My condemnation of the USA does not exempt Iran from the fact that it is a theocracy that wants to destroy the State of Israel."[70] On French news channel LCI, he declared: "the current government of Iran claims it wants to destroy the State of Israel. This is an intolerable project which in itself creates incredible tension in the region, and obviously favors extremes on either side."[71]

Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on October 28, 2020, 12:49:45 am
Syrians protest against Macron’s anti-Muslim remarks
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People in northern Syria protested against French President Macron’s anti-Muslim remarks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAkvKZqM06c
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on October 28, 2020, 01:25:28 am
Muslim world’s falling-out with France deepens: Live news
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Tens of thousands protest in Dhaka, Saudi Arabia weighs in, and Iran summons diplomat over France’s treatment of Islam.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/27/world-reaction-to-macron

Iran accuses France’s Macron of fuelling ‘extremism’
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Insulting Muslims for ‘abhorrent crimes of such extremists is an opportunistic abuse of freedom of speech’, Iranian FM Zarif says.
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“Muslims are the primary victims of the ‘cult of hatred’ – empowered by colonial regimes & exported by their own clients,” Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif tweeted.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/26/iran-accuses-frances-macron-of-fuelling-extremism
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 29, 2020, 03:58:15 pm
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20201029-malaysian-ex-pm-mahathir-says-muslims-have-right-to-kill-french

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"The French in the course of their history has killed millions of people. Many were Muslims. Muslims have a right to be angry and to kill millions of French people for the massacres of the past."

Mahathir, who served as Malaysian premier twice for a total of 24 years, said that French President Emmanuel Macron was "not showing that he is civilised", adding he was "very primitive".

"The French should teach their people to respect other people's feelings. Since you have blamed all Muslims and the Muslims' religion for what was done by one angry person, the Muslims have a right to punish the French.

"The boycott cannot compensate the wrongs committed by the French all these years."

To elaborate, France is still using the same flag as it used during the colonial era:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_colonial_flags

and still keeping in its museums the stuff it stole during the colonial era. How then can the French expect to be seen by default as anything other than people proud of their colonial past, and treated accordingly? If France wants change, it should start by changing its flag:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/flag-decolonization/

and returning all stolen property:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/museum-decolonization/
Title: China and Africa Relations
Post by: guest5 on November 01, 2020, 12:39:04 pm
Gyude Moore: “China in Africa: An African Perspective”
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Gyude Moore speaks about China’s expanding presence in Africa at the Paulson Institute's Contemporary China Speakers Series on March 5, 2019.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uzxV8ub9k
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King LY
1 day ago
Western countries telling African nations what's good or bad for them is an insult to Africans' intelligence really.
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Dico
1 month ago (edited)
Very informative and a elogquent speaker.

I remember this talk by this lady who said this: Chinese company vs Western company in Africa. Chinese engineers stayed in almost quarter like bunks and only return to China every 3~6 months. The western engineers stayed in 5 star hotels and return home every month with first or business class flights and all kinds of perks'. Damn, now I know why the Chinese are cheaper and why the west is so pissed with China!
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Nimue
1 day ago
I mean as a Chinese I too cringe at racist people in my country, but the racism in the US is on a whole other level
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 04, 2020, 01:53:22 pm
Good work:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stung-number-moderate-muslims-irked-160015164.html

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France was stung into launching a charm offensive to quell anti-French sentiment in some Muslim countries after receiving tens of thousands of messages of indignation from moderate believers on a government website, say reports.

The French foreign ministry was said to be taken aback by the scale of accusations of “colonial arrogance” on its Arabic Facebook page from around 50,000 people from various countries. Usually, the site receives a few dozen likes or comments.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on November 04, 2020, 05:52:22 pm
Well, all things considered and not advocating for increased reproduction of humans here, but at-least 25% of the world's population is Muslim! We can thank God for that much!  ;D
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 12, 2020, 01:15:55 am
How things should be:

https://us.yahoo.com/news/bolivia-restores-ties-iran-venezuela-214850226.html

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LA PAZ (Reuters) - Bolivia's new president, Luis Arce, has moved swiftly to restore ties with Iran and Venezuela, receiving the credentials of ambassadors from the two countries on Wednesday, just three days after his socialist party retook the reins of power.

Bolivia's government said in a statement it wanted to "reestablish diplomatic relations damaged by the previous de-facto government" led by conservative interim president Jeanine Anez.

Writing on Twitter, Arce said he was restoring bilateral relations with Venezuela "to strengthen strategic ties for the good of our peoples."

He said the same was being done with Iran and that "they are always welcome in Bolivia. We will continue to strengthen common projects."

Iran's foreign minister Javad Zarif attended Arce's swearing-in ceremony in La Paz on Sunday as part of a tour of leftist Latin American nations that included Venezuela and Cuba.

All former victims of Western colonialism unite to kill Western civilization once and for all!
Title: Australia and China Tensions
Post by: guest5 on November 30, 2020, 06:16:02 pm
Why has the Australia-China relationship turned sour? | Inside Story
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Ties between Australia and China are unravelling fast. Beijing has imposed a tariff of up to 212 percent on Australian wine, the latest in an escalating dispute. China says it's a measure against dumping to protect its own wine industry. But Australia believes the reason's political. The government in Canberra has criticised China's handling of COVID-19, as well as human rights issues in Xinjiang and Hong Kong. Is there room to repair the relationship?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1Cs_JgGJxg

China slaps Australia with barley tariffs as trade tensions flare
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Ties between Australia and China are under growing strain after Beijing imposed tariffs and suspensions on Australian agricultural products.
China has threatened to impose tariffs of up to 80 percent on Australian barley and has suspended Australian beef imports, after Australia's push for an international investigation into the origins of COVID-19.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YMv9b_jcOc

Further escalation in feud between Australia and China | DW News
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Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Monday said a fake image that was tweeted by a high-ranking Chinese official was "truly repugnant." Morrison called a media briefing specifically to condemn the posting of the picture, which shows an Australian soldier holding a knife to the throat of a veiled Afghan child carrying a lamb in her arms. Morrison described the image as being "deeply offensive to every Australian." He said he had reached out to Twitter and Chinese authorities for the immediate removal of the post.

The digitally altered post came from Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian on Monday. Responses that came to the tweet from those springing to Australia's defense referred to the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre and the repression and persecution of Muslims in China's northwestern region of Xinjiang. Zhao's comments follow the release earlier this month of a damning report into alleged war crimes by Australian special forces soldiers in Afghanistan from 2005 to 2016. A four-year inquiry found that there was "credible information" to substantiate claims that Australian soldiers unlawfully killed 39 prisoners and civilians. Washington criticized Zhao in March over his tweet about a conspiracy theory that US soldiers may have taken the coronavirus to China. He is considered a leading representative of Beijing's new assertive approach to foreign relations.

A rift between the two nations has deepened since the Australian government called for an independent inquiry into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic. Since then, China has imposed tariffs and other restrictions on certain Australian exports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OurNocFjmMU

Australia demands apology after Chinese official tweets 'falsified image' of soldier threatening child
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Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has demanded the Chinese government delete a "repugnant" and "falsified image" on Twitter that appears to show an Australian soldier threatening to slit a child's throat.
The image, set against a backdrop of the Australian and Afghan flags, was shared on Monday morning Beijing time from Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian's verified Twitter account with the caption: "Shocked by the murder of Afghan civilians & prisoners by Australian soldiers."
The spat is the latest example of souring relations between the two countries, with tensions ramping up despite China being Australia's biggest trading partner.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/australia/australia-china-twitter-intl-hnk/index.html

If the image is indeed false we should remember western media had no problems doing the same to Germany during WWI and WWII.

China: Australia should offer apology to Afghan people over "cruel crimes," says Beijing
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Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying urged Australia to apologise to Afghanistan for what she called 'cruel crimes' committed by its soldiers in Afghanistan during a press briefing in Beijing on Monday.

Hua's comment responded to Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison demand of an official apology from Beijing, after Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian posted a doctored image depicting an Australian soldier holding a knife to an Afghan child's throat.

"The Australian side is acting so strongly on my colleague's Twitter. Does that mean they think the cold-blood murder of Afghan innocent civilians is justified while other people's condemnations on such cruel crimes are not justified? Afghan lives matter," Hua stated.

"The Australian government should do some soul searching and bring the culprits to justice as well as offer the official apology to the Afghan people and make the sole pledge that they will never repeat such crimes," she added.

Earlier on Monday, Lijian Zhao, a spokesperson for China's Foreign Ministry, posted the fabricated image in reference to alleged war crimes committed by Australian forces in Afghanistan between 2009 and 2013.

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison condemned the fabricated image on Monday, calling it 'truly repugnant' and 'utterly outrageous.' He stressed that the tweet must be taken down and called for an apology from Beijing.

Tensions between Beijing and Canberra have been increasing since the Australian government called for an independent international investigation over the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic.
#China #Beijing #Afghanistan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icJ88CqzmaA
Title: Re: Australia and China Tensions
Post by: guest5 on November 30, 2020, 09:30:39 pm
New Zealand voiced concerns with China over Australian soldier image
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New Zealand's prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, said her government has raised concerns with China about its using an image of an Australian soldier holding a knife to the throat of an Afghan child.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7S7_yhbZY8
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 30, 2020, 10:32:10 pm
China's attitude is improving:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3111903/australian-fury-china-foreign-ministry-tweet-doctored-war

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A war of words between Australia and China has intensified, with the Chinese foreign ministry refusing to remove a tweet featuring a meme-like illustration of an Australian soldier appearing to murder a child.

The image was posted on Twitter on Monday morning by Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian, accompanied by the text: “Shocked by murder of Afghan civilians & prisoners by Australian soldiers. We strongly condemn such acts, & call for holding them accountable.”

Foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said she stood by her subordinate Zhao over the post, which drew an immediate and furious response from Canberra. Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison also demanded the removal of the tweet.

“Australia has already confirmed that their soldiers have committed serious war crimes in Afghanistan ... The details are shocking and their brutal behaviour has been strongly condemned by the international community,” Hua said.

“Australia has shown a strong response to my colleague ... and said the Chinese government should feel ashamed. Shouldn’t Australia feel ashamed for sending their soldiers to commit such atrocities and killing innocent civilians in Afghanistan?”

In the colonialist mindset, the problem is not the colonial powers initiating violence, but the victims complaining about it. Our duty is to remind those who still think this way that the colonial era is over.

(https://www.ledgerinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/china-flag.jpg)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on December 01, 2020, 10:46:22 am
Twitter rebuffs Australian calls to remove Chinese official's war crimes tweet
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Twitter turned down calls from Australia to remove a tweet from a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman about war crimes by Australian troops in war-torn Afghanistan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmx8LnHc69M
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Tony L
3 hours ago
You can't condemn a white supremacist! Their arrogant indignation explodes, as can be seen in Morrison....
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on December 03, 2020, 01:16:04 am
Killing of Afghan civilians by Australian soldiers confirmed, who should apologize?
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A tweet from Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian has made headlines. Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison demanded an apology, which has been refused by China. This is the latest incident in the turbulent relationship between the two countries. The question is, was Zhao Lijian's tweet appropriate? What about the killing of Afghan civilians that Zhao highlighted? Can anything stop the free fall of China-Australia relations?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13x_9pazeM
Title: Re: India
Post by: rp on December 03, 2020, 10:58:44 pm
Captured Indian pilot praises Pakistani forces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz9z_LfwO58

Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on December 03, 2020, 11:54:12 pm
The Jews would have you believe that the Indians and Pakistanis are eternal enemies who just hate each other, but this video seems to show the contrary.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on December 08, 2020, 10:40:02 am
Kagame Does Not Joke Tells Europe that Africa Doesn't Need Adult Supervision but Fair Trade
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Welcome to the Great African Leadership Series where we feature great, inspirational Speeches and quotes from African Leaders. Kagame's stern speech at the 5th Meeting of the High-level Group of Personalities on Europe-Africa Relations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg1oAe-ZSBw
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 08, 2020, 02:21:00 pm
Kagame also needs to stop using the term "Africa". The following (marked in red) is the only historically accurate meaning of Africa:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Roman_Empire_-_Africa_Proconsularis_%28125_AD%29.svg/578px-Roman_Empire_-_Africa_Proconsularis_%28125_AD%29.svg.png)

To use the term to denote any region beyond this is Eurocentrism.

And he should stop wearing a Western suit.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: guest5 on December 09, 2020, 12:07:14 pm
Ex-President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad- Who Allowed The UK and US to Be in The Persian Gulf?
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A flashback of our interview last year with the former President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad where he discusses the Yemen War, how capitalism fuels war, the military-industrial complex in the US and the presence of UK and US forces in the Persian Gulf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEBHQ3TwMPA
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 23, 2020, 04:34:35 am
https://us.yahoo.com/news/good-riddance-china-says-germany-203712420.html

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Germany finishes a two-year term on the 15-member council at the end of this month and Ambassador Christoph Heusgen plans to retire after more than 40 years as a diplomat.

"Let me end my tenure on the Security Council by appealing to my Chinese colleagues to ask Beijing for the release of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor. Christmas is the right moment for such a gesture," Heusgen told the council session, whose official agenda topic was Iran.

Kovrig, a former Canadian diplomat who was working as an adviser for the International Crisis Group think tank, and businessman Spavor were detained by Beijing in 2018 shortly after Canadian police picked up Huawei Technologies Co Ltd Chief Financial Officer Meng Wanzhou on a U.S. warrant.

China's deputy U.N. ambassador, Geng Shuang, accused Heusgen of abusing the Security Council to launch "malicious" attacks on other members "in an attempt to poison the working atmosphere".

"I wish to say something out of the bottom of my heart: Good riddance, Ambassador Heusgen," Geng said. "I am hoping that the council in your absence in the year 2021 will be in a better position to fulfil the responsibilities...for maintaining international peace and security."

I like this response. Just one thing, Geng:

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/Mi3Qg28Nc.gUGREmXRHCaQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTYzOS42/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/CMeRF5ugxQ_XycNVaiLO9g--~B/aD01MzM7dz04MDA7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/reuters.com/5b5cb952e065594e847461389d1dfced)

Stop wearing that Western suit. What we need to be saying good riddance to is Western civilization as a whole!

About Heusgen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Heusgen

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The German Foreign Office pointed to Heusgen's long track record of supporting Israel's security.[39]
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on December 24, 2020, 09:59:52 am
Qatar's Emir slams world's failure to confront Israeli occupation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pql0P1JTzQs

Qatar > UAE
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 17, 2021, 03:20:55 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2ljaC_h-Hk

All former victims of Western colonialism must support one another!

(But Wang, ditch the Western suit FFS.....)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest5 on January 30, 2021, 11:28:26 pm
China-India Ties: What efforts are needed to further de-escalate tensions?
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After imposing a preliminary ban in June on 59 Chinese apps, including TikTok and WeChat, India made the ban permanent this week. What's the thinking behind the blanket ban? And China and India have held a ninth round of the Corps Commander Level Meetings agreeing to push for an early disengagement of frontline troops. So what efforts are needed to further de-escalate tensions in the region? And how much impact is the border dispute having on economic ties?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geWlM4H8vIE
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 03, 2021, 03:08:07 pm
https://barenakedislam.com/2021/02/02/iran-says-if-biden-wants-to-return-to-the-negotiating-table-about-our-nuclear-missile-program-the-missile-power-and-defensive-capabilities-of-the-u-s-israel-and-the-west-must-first-be-removed/

This is how to talk to Westerners.

I of course put it even more strongly: there is no better poetic justice than using a weapon against the civilization which invented it.
Title: China takes aim again at BBC as dispute intensifies
Post by: guest5 on February 06, 2021, 01:10:53 am
China takes aim again at BBC as dispute intensifies
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The BBC came under fire from Chinese officials and social media on Friday in an escalating diplomatic dispute, a day after Britain's media regulator revoked the TV license of Chinese state media outlet CGTN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De6wOkLWlsQ

China refutes BBC report on women's rights abuses in Xinjiang
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The Chinese Foreign Ministry on Thursday refuted a BBC report on alleged abuses of women's rights in northwest Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, saying some of the interviewees in previous reports turned out to be "actors" for and "tools" used by anti-China forces to attack China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDCVYsEzOT4

China urges BBC to apologize for its fake reports over COVID-19
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China firmly opposes the British Broadcasting Corporation's (BBC) fake reports about COVID-19 in China, said Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin during a regular press conference on February 5. Wang said China firmly opposes this and urges BBC to take practical measures and eliminate the negative impact of the relevant reports and apologize to the Chinese side for the fake news on China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yrq2dUy0fs
Title: China accuses European countries of ulterior motives, for refusing to visit Xinjiang
Post by: guest5 on February 27, 2021, 02:43:11 pm
China accuses European countries of ulterior motives, for refusing to visit Xinjiang
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China says it has invited representatives from EU countries to visit Xinjiang to understand the situation there. But they've repeatedly delayed going. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin accused them of high handedness and prejudice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLK-8xBelxU
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 12, 2021, 10:48:27 pm
China is slowly learning the correct way to talk to Westerners:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-urges-australia-close-offshore-161852857.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/china-urges-australia-close-offshore-161852857.html

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China urges Australia to close offshore detention centres

GENEVA (Reuters) - China on Friday said it was "deeply concerned" by what it described as the Australian government's operation of offshore detention centres, and it called for the sites to be closed immediately.
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In a statement to the U.N. Human Rights Council in Geneva, China alleged that the detention centres "fall short of adequate medical conditions where a large number of immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers have been detained over a long period of time or even indefinitely, and their human rights have been violated."

It did not specify any locations, describing them as "third countries". Asylum seekers intercepted at sea en route to Australia are sent for "processing" to Papua New Guinea or to the South Pacific island of Nauru.
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"We urge Australia to immediately close down all offshore detention centers and take concrete steps to protect the rights of immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers, especially children," China said in its statement, which it submitted on behalf of a group of unnamed countries.

However, what is missing from this statement is what will happen to Australia if it refuses to close down its detention centres (e.g. how many WMDs will hit it every day until it complies). China has apparently not yet recognized that there is no other way to get through to Westerners.
Title: Re: China and United States Relations
Post by: acc9 on March 27, 2021, 09:58:35 pm
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/27/iran-and-china-sign-25-year-cooperation-agreement-in-tehran


US-led sanctions on Iran and China seem to have brought the two countries closer together
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 27, 2021, 11:19:34 pm
All cooperation between Iran and China that leaves out Russia is a step in the correct direction. China's objective should be to ensure that, in any hypothetical future situation in which Iran must choose between China and Russia, Iran will choose China. Conversely, Iran's objective should be to ensure that, in any hypothetical future situation in which China must choose between Iran and Russia, China will choose Iran. In this way, we can chip away at the postmodern depiction of "China, Russia and Iran" as one bloc, and in its place begin to build back up the coalition from ancient times when Russia did not even exist yet:

(https://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/images/silk_road_map.gif)
Title: US imposes new sanctions on Russia, expels diplomats
Post by: guest5 on April 15, 2021, 09:22:43 pm
US imposes new sanctions on Russia, expels diplomats
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United States President Joe Biden has signed an executive order that imposes a slate of new sanctions against Russia, as well as expelling 10 diplomats from the US, in response to a massive Russian hacking campaign that breached vital federal agencies, as well as for election interference.
The sanctions, foreshadowed for weeks by the US administration, represent the first retaliatory action announced against the Kremlin for last year’s hack, familiarly known as the SolarWinds breach.
In that intrusion, Russian hackers are believed to have infected widely used software with malicious code, enabling them to access the networks of at least nine agencies in what US officials believe was an intelligence-gathering operation aimed at mining government secrets.
The order “sends a signal that the United States will impose costs in a strategic and economically impactful manner on Russia if it continues or escalates its destabilizing international actions,” the White House said in a statement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0no1oPM640
Title: Re: China and United States Relations
Post by: acc9 on April 21, 2021, 08:17:58 am
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/04/new-zealand-uncomfortable-invoking-five-eyes-to-speak-up-on-issues-beyond-intelligence-matters-nanaia-mahuta.html


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It now appears New Zealand will take a more cautious approach to China, with Mahuta telling reporters on Monday she wants to see the scope of the intelligence network stay narrow.

"We are uncomfortable with expanding the remit of the Five Eyes," she said. "We would much rather prefer to look for multilateral opportunities to express our interests."
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 23, 2021, 12:38:56 am
Our plan is working:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/australia-zealand-diverge-over-china-183116551.html

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Australia and New Zealand diverge over China
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New Zealand has declined to join in multiple joint statements that criticized China, though the government has at times raised concerns about China’s human rights record.

Former Australian foreign minister Alexander Downer noted that New Zealand had also strengthened its trade pact with China earlier this year while Australia was facing Chinese sanctions. "Used to be our best mates. Not now," he tweeted.

If Aotearoa can start thinking of itself as a non-Western country, in particular as a victim of British colonialism, this will get even better. Because:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/has-australia-reconciled-with-its-colonial-past/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 24, 2021, 02:32:30 am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488373/Imran-Khan-calls-Muslim-countries-lobby-West-criminalise-insulting-Prophet.html

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Pakistan's prime minister has called on Muslim-majority countries to lobby Western governments to criminalise insulting the Prophet Mohammed.

'We need to explain why this hurts us, when in the name of freedom of speech they insult the honour of the prophet,' Imran Khan said in a televised address on Monday.

'When 50 Muslim countries will unite and say this, and say that if something like this happens in any country, then we will launch a trade boycott on them and not buy their goods, that will have an effect.'

Non-Muslim countries should also be invited to join in! Who says that only Muslims consider it unacceptable for Westerners to insult Mohammed? All former victims of Western colonialism should support Muslims against Westerners by default!
Title: Kerry faces calls to step down over leaked Iran tapes
Post by: guest5 on April 27, 2021, 12:32:32 am
Kerry faces calls to step down over leaked Iran tapes
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John Kerry, the U.S. special envoy for climate change, is facing calls for his resignation from Republican lawmakers and pundits for reportedly discussing Israeli military operations with Iran’s foreign minister when he served as then-President Obama’s secretary of State.

Republican blowback is running the gamut from calling for Kerry to leave his position as the top official addressing climate change to calling for an investigation and his prosecution. Biden administration officials are dismissing the allegations, saying the information Kerry allegedly shared was widely known at the time.

Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska) called for Kerry’s resignation in a floor speech, one of several senators to do so Monday.
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“I don’t do this lightly. In my entire time in the Senate, I’ve never called for anyone’s resignation,” Sullivan said. “But his record, John Kerry’s record, of undermining working families and working against American national security interests was too much to bear. He needs to go.”

“When I read this today, I was astonished as well that a former secretary of State, now a member of President Biden’s National Security Council ... would reveal the secrets of one of our most important and enduring allies in the region to an avowed enemy,” he added.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/550370-kerry-faces-calls-to-step-down-over-leaked-iran-tapes

Reminder:
The Day Israel Attacked America | Special Series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx72tAWVcoM

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I agree with everything you say
5 years ago
What's even more obscene is that some high ups wanted to sink the Liberty so that the public wouldn't turn against israel. We really are just numbers to these people

Rightists either cannot figure out how to use a search engine on the internet correctly or they are intentionally lying for the devil Yahweh, which is it?
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 27, 2021, 01:18:34 am
In short, Kerry is being asked to resign for behaving like an American, instead of like a Westerner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93United_States_relations

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Initially, while Persia was very wary of British and Russian colonial interests during the Great Game, the United States was seen as a more trustworthy foreign power, and the Americans Arthur Millspaugh and Morgan Shuster were even appointed treasurers-general by the Shahs of the time.
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Until World War II, relations between Iran and the United States remained cordial. As a result, many Iranians sympathetic to the Persian Constitutional Revolution came to view the US as a "third force" in their struggle to break free of British and Russian dominance in Persian affairs.[citation needed] American industrial and business leaders were supportive of Iran's drive to modernize its economy and free itself from British and Russian influence.
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After the Iranian parliament appointed United States financier Morgan Shuster as Treasurer General of Iran in 1911, an American was killed in Tehran by henchmen thought to be affiliated with Russian or British interests. Shuster became even more active in supporting the Constitutional revolution of Iran financially.[27] When Iran's government ordered Shu'a al-Saltaneh (شعاع السلطنه), the Shah's brother who was aligned with the goals of Imperial Russia in Iran, to surrender his assets, Shuster moved to execute the seizure. Imperial Russia immediately landed troops in Bandar Anzali, demanding a recourse and apology from the Persian government. Russia's General Liakhov subsequently shelled Iran's parliament in Tehran as part of actions to protect Russia's interests during the chain of events, and Morgan Shuster was forced to resign under British and Russian pressure. Shuster's book The Strangling of Persia is a recount of the details of these events and is critical of Britain and Imperial Russia.
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Iran's long border with America's Cold War rival, the Soviet Union, and its position as the largest, most powerful country in the oil-rich Persian Gulf, made Iran a "pillar" of US foreign policy in the Middle East.[31]
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In the 1970s, approximately 25,000 American technicians were deployed to Iran in order to maintain military equipment (such as F-14s) that had been sold to the Shah's government.[32] Additionally, from 1950 to 1979, an estimated 800,000 to 850,000 Americans had visited or lived in Iran, and had often expressed their admiration for the Iranian people.[8]
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The U.S. helped Iran create its nuclear program starting in 1957 by providing Iran its first nuclear reactor and nuclear fuel, and after 1967 by providing Iran with weapons grade enriched uranium.[50][51] Iran's nuclear program was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program.[51]

The sooner the US gets back to the Cold War mentality, the sooner it can see Iran as the anti-Duginist ally it needs.

(https://img9.irna.ir/old/Image/1398/13980227/83317295/N83317295-73032894.jpg)
Title: Re: China and United States Relations
Post by: acc9 on April 29, 2021, 03:39:40 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebeGipO6-gU


Three ambassadors respectively from Palestine, Pakistan and Syria come together to The Point to be interviewed on Xinjiang.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 03, 2021, 03:56:34 am
https://us.yahoo.com/news/why-african-countries-back-china-231453121.html

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"Some Western forces hyping up the so-called Xinjiang-related issues are actually launching unprovoked attacks on China to serve their own ulterior motives," Adama Compaoré, Burkina Faso's ambassador, was quoted as saying at the event in March dubbed Xinjiang in the Eyes of African Ambassadors to China.

The event was also attended by Sudan and Congo-Brazzaville, whose envoy Daniel Owassa reportedly said he supported what China has called a series of anti-terrorism measures in the region, saying he appreciated "Xinjiang's great development achievements in various fields in recent years".
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Increasingly Africa's largely pro-China position is pitting the continent against the West when it comes to human rights.

During a vote in June 2020 at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva about the controversial Hong Kong national security law, which imposed harsh penalties on political dissent and which effectively ended the territory's autonomy, 25 African countries - the largest grouping from any continent - backed China.

Months later in October no African country signed up to a stinging rebuke of China's human rights violations in Xinjiang, Hong Kong and Tibet, which was backed by Western nations.
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"For 30 years now China has made it a tradition that its foreign minister visits Africa first every new year - this is not just symbolic but signals that they are invested in a long-term relationship and this makes a big impression on Africans."

All good to see.

(Now imagine if the US stopped being part of the West and joined this bloc instead.....)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 04, 2021, 01:57:53 am
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/asean-plus-china-japan-south-092007129.html

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ASEAN plus China, Japan, South Korea vow to boost financial ties amid pandemic
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China, Japan and South Korea said they would explore "new initiatives" to strengthen the regional financial safety net at the virtual meeting with the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN).

ASEAN includes Brunei, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Myanmar, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and the Philippines.
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At their last virtual meeting in September, the financial chiefs from Japan, South Korea, China and ASEAN, a group known as ASEAN+3, promised to boost the Chiang Mai Initiative Multilateralisation (CMIM).

(https://www.amro-asia.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Featured-Image_ASEAN3-flags-1.png)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 04, 2021, 10:21:40 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZcitAPLsOw
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 15, 2021, 01:55:12 am
https://www.yahoo.com/news/latin-american-countries-endorse-hamas-211943336.html

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The governments of Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina and St. Vincent — a small country, but one that occupies a seat on the U.N. Security Council — as well as Bolivia’s behind-the-scenes ruler Evo Morales have tacitly or explicitly supported the Iran-backed Hamas terrorist group.
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Cuba’s foreign minister tweeted that his country “strongly condemns the indiscriminate bombardments against the Palestinian population in Gaza.” Venezuela’s foreign minister tweeted that, “The world must demand the end of this new phase of Zionist violence against the Palestinian people.”

Most surprising was the reaction from Argentina, whose chaotic populist government until recently showed some moderation in foreign affairs. Argentina condemned the “disproportionate use of force” by Israel, without an equally strong condemnation of Hamas’ rocket attacks.

Now would be a good time for Argentina to join Cuba and Venezuela in not recognizing Israel at all.

Bolivia should also resume its former position (held until as recently as 2019) of not recognizing Israel:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/bolivia/

As for St. Vincent, it should first stop recognizing Elizabeth Windsor as its own head of state.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 15, 2021, 10:14:21 pm
Iran and Turkey show the way (as usual)!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/iranian-minister-cancels-austrian-visit-105058647.html

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ZURICH (Reuters) -Iran's foreign minister cancelled a visit with his Austrian counterpart to show displeasure that Chancellor Sebastian Kurz's government had flown the Israeli flag in Vienna in a show of solidarity, the Austrian foreign ministry said on Saturday.
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"Vienna is the seat of (nuclear watchdog) IAEA & UN, and (Austria) so far been a great host for negotiations," Araqchi wrote on Twitter. "Shocking & painful to see flag of the occupying regime, that brutally killed tens of innocent civilians, inc many children in just few days, over govt offices in Vienna. We stand with Palestine."

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-officials-condemn-austria-for-hoisting-israeli-flag-164744

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Turkey's presidential spokesman on May 14 criticized Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz for hoisting the Israeli flag on the roof of the chancellery building in Vienna amid attacks on Palestine by the Jewish state.

“This is what encourages Israel to continue its attacks on Palestinian people,” İbrahim Kalın said in a tweet. “I hope those Austrians and Europeans with a sense of reason and morality will reject these disgraceful politics.”

Kurz had tweeted a photo with a caption that read: "Today the Israeli flag was hoisted on the roof of the Federal Chancellery as a sign of solidarity with #Israel ... Together we stand by Israel's side."

Turkey's Vice President Fuat Oktay reacted to Kurz's recent attitude concerning the Israeli flag hoisted on the chancellery building.

"With this attitude, the Austrian chancellor has put his signature under Israel's massacre in Gaza," he said in a statement on Twitter.
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Ömer Çelik, spokesman of the ruling AKP, also censured Kurz and said: "This person [Kurz] is the symbol of Islamophobia, hostility towards Turks and [President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan in Europe."

"It is only a dream to expect him to side with those oppressed. His siding with the oppressor is his political compass," he added.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 16, 2021, 01:42:00 pm
Sellouts must be called out:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/islamic-nations-hold-emergency-summit-101548798.html

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“The massacre of Palestinian children today follows the purported normalization,” Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said. “This criminal and genocidal regime has once again proven that friendly gestures only aggravate its atrocities.”
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the videoconference meeting saw some delegates instead turn their fire toward countries like Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates, Muslim nations which reached normalization deals last year to recognize Israel.
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“There are a few who have lost their moral compass and voiced support for Israel,” he said. “If there are half-hearted statements within our own family, how could we criticize others? Who will take our words seriously?”

Zarif also accused Israel of “genocide and crimes against humanity.”

“Make no mistake: Israel only understand the language of resistance and the people of Palestine are fully entitled to their right to defend themselves,” Zarif said.

Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 19, 2021, 01:43:00 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-accuses-chinese-state-tv-043240445.html

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BEIJING (AP) — Israel’s Embassy in China is protesting what it describes as “blatant antisemitism” on a program run by the overseas channel of state broadcaster CCTV discussing the ongoing violence in Gaza and elsewhere.

In a tweet, the embassy said “we have hoped that the times of the ‘Jew’s controlling the world’ conspiracy theories were over, unfortunately antisemitism has shown its ugly face again.”

“We are appalled to see blatant antisemitism expressed in an official Chinese media outlet," the tweet said.

On the Tuesday CGTN broadcast, host Zheng Junfeng questioned whether U.S. support for Israel was truly based on shared democratic values, saying “some people believe that U.S. pro-Israeli policy is traceable to the influence of wealthy Jews in the U.S. and the Jewish lobby on U.S. foreign policy makers.”

“Jews dominate finance and and internet sectors,” Zheng says, speaking in English. “So do they have the powerful lobbies some say? Possible.”

Yes, but Jewish domination in the US does not imply absence of democratic values. If anything, it is in Jewish interests to promote democracy, since Jews excel in herding, thus exert political influence more easily under democracy than under autocracy. Hence:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/freemasons-say-they're-needed-now-more-than-ever-so-why-are-their-ranks-dwindlin/

Another mistake:

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Zheng then accused the U.S. — China’s top geopolitical rival — of using Israel as a “beachhead” in the Middle East and a as proxy in its campaign to defeat pan-Arabism.

If China wishes to be constructively anti-Zionist, it should portray the US as being used by Israel rather than the other way round. Claiming that the US is using Israel allows Israel to detach from the US one day (which it plans to do anyway) and then blame the US for its own past bad behaviour (in line with Duginism!). Claiming that Israel is using the US, in contrast, encourages the US to redeem itself by becoming hostile to Israel.
Title: Re: China and United States Relations
Post by: guest5 on May 19, 2021, 11:23:58 pm
China slams U.S. over potential arms sale to Israel
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#China has slammed the U.S. over a potential arms sale to Israel. This comes as international calls grow for a stop to hostilities. Here's a statement from the Chinese Foreign Ministry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2MN07qI0E

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catonpillow
1 day ago
The US has blocked the UN joint statement for ceasefire several times already. And on top of that is selling $700M worth of armament to Israel in the middle of the conflict. The empire will never learn.
Title: Re: BDS
Post by: guest5 on May 26, 2021, 10:38:07 pm
Ireland recognises Israel’s ‘de facto annexation’ of Palestine
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Irish parliament supports motion declaring Israel’s ‘de facto annexation’ of Palestinian land as sanctions amendment fails to pass.
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The Irish parliament has passed a parliamentary motion condemning the “de facto annexation” of Palestinian land by Israeli authorities.

The motion, tabled by the opposition Sinn Fein party, passed on Wednesday after receiving cross-party support.
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It is the first European Union country to use the phrase in relation to Israel’s actions in the occupied Palestinian territories.

Irish Foreign Minister Simon Coveney said on Tuesday that the motion “is a clear signal of the depth of feeling across Ireland”.

“The scale, pace and strategic nature of Israel’s actions on settlement expansion and the intent behind it have brought us to a point where we need to be honest about what is actually happening on the ground. … It is de facto annexation,” Coveney, of the centre-right Fine Gael party, told parliament.

“This is not something that I, or in my view this house, says lightly. We are the first EU state to do so. But it reflects the huge concern we have about the intent of the actions and of course, their impact,” he said.
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Most countries view settlements Israel has built in territory captured in the 1967 war as illegal and as an obstacle to peace with the Palestinians.

Coveney, who has represented Ireland on the United Nations Security Council in debates on Israel in recent weeks, had insisted on adding a condemnation of recent rocket attacks on Israel by the Palestinian group Hamas before he agreed to government support for the motion.

After the vote, the Sinn Fein party leader Mary Lou MacDonald said on Twitter that the motion “must mark new assertive, consistent confrontation of Israeli crimes against Palestine”
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An amendment to the motion that sought to impose sanctions on Israel and expel the Israeli ambassador failed to pass.

The motion came days after a ceasefire ended 11 days of the worst fighting between Israel and Palestinian armed groups in years.

The violence sparked large pro-Palestinian protests in Dublin.

At least 254 Palestinians were killed, including 66 children, according to Gaza’s health ministry, while about 2,000 were injured. At least 12 people were killed in Israel.

Some social media users welcomed Ireland’s move.

“Ireland has become the first EU state to recognise Israel’s de facto annexation of Palestine in contravention of international law,” tweeted Ronan Burtenshaw, editor of the UK’s socialist Tribune Magazine. “A landmark on the road to isolating an apartheid state as we did in the 1980s. Next stop: Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions.”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/26/ireland-recognises-israels-de-facto-annexation-of-palestine

Ireland to vote on amendment that’s likely to slap sanctions on Israel
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Ireland has called out Israel’s “de facto annexation of Palestine” and will vote on a motion to impose economic, political and cultural sanctions on Israel.
#Ireland #sanctions #Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-CUaltiyhA

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Ted Maloof
6 hours ago
The only European country with balls. Not surprising that they stood up to 600yrs of British oppression.
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N K
6 hours ago
You will never beat the Irish and Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪👏
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Neshreen
6 hours ago
Ireland is doing more than all other countries combined.

Title: Re: China and United States Relations
Post by: acc9 on May 27, 2021, 08:05:44 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfdoVhhYhYI

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New Zealand, don't let Australia bully or brainwash you!

Daniel Dumbrill: "In this episode I talk about the inevitable ever increasing propaganda campaign that Australia and America will push on New Zealand in an attempt to brainwash your population into supporting their racist attack against China."

Don't miss the last bit!!


Title: Re: Israel
Post by: guest5 on May 30, 2021, 11:05:16 pm
Israel does not recognise ‘the new Irish position’ - Israeli ambassador to Ireland
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"We think this Irish position is not constructive for the peace process." [WHAT A SICK JOKE THAT STATEMENT IS!!!]
- The Israeli ambassador to Ireland spoke to Kieran Cuddihy on The Hard Shoulder.

He also claimed efforts to get him expelled were motivated by hate.

A motion was approved in the Dáil on Wednesday, recognising Israeli settlements on Palestinian land as 'de facto annexation'.

Ireland is the first European Union country to formally use these terms.

However a Solidarity-People Before Profit amendment to expel Ambassador Kariv was voted down.

Ambassador Kariv told The Hard Shoulder his country does not recognise "the new Irish position".

"We don't accept it, we think this Irish position is not constructive for the peace process.

"It touches upon one of the main issues that are supposed to be dealt with in final status negotiations with the Palestinians - and that is the future of the Israeli communities in Judea and Samaria - what is called the West Bank.

"This kind of a resolution, or an agreement on then future of these communities, can be reached only on direct negotiations between the two sides and in no other way.

"So we believe this motion, and this new Irish position, takes us away from direct negotiations.

"This statement that the existence of those Jewish communities or Israeli communities constitute what is called here 'de facto annexation' is new - and it's not positive and does not contribute anything to the peace process."

Asked why what is happening in the West Bank is not de facto annexation, he said: "The situation in the West Bank is a temporary [one], it's not the final status of the land.

"This is still disputed, and the future of this part of the land is disputed, and this is why we have to renew negotiations with the Palestinians - which unfortunately, they have been refusing to do so for many years."

Asked if this meant that the settlements could be dismantled, he said: "I don't know what, when and where, if at all.

"But if we look at the past, which is what we can draw on, you could see that whenever real peace, and a real chance of peace was on the agenda, Israel knew how to make very painful concessions.

"And also uproot Jewish communities - and we saw it happening in the Sinai, in the framework of our peace agreement with Egypt, and we saw it in Gaza in 2005."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCGos8oacR4

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Noreen Jawad
18 hours ago
Doesn't matter that isreali accept it or not , facts are facts and everyone knows them.

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/bds-288/?message=6736
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 22, 2021, 11:23:47 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/scoop-u-pressure-israel-joins-194933902.html

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Israel supported a statement criticizing China at the UN Human Rights Council after being pressured to do so by the Biden administration, U.S. and Israeli officials tell me.
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Last October, 38 countries criticized China and 45 defended China. Israel was on neither list.

Now, will China have the courage to become more hostile to Israel in return? If not now, when?
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 04, 2021, 05:46:56 am
I like this move:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-big-plan-post-u-091239086.html

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China is poised to make an exclusive entry into post-U.S. Afghanistan with its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). Speaking on condition of anonymity, a source close to government officials in Afghanistan told The Daily Beast that Kabul authorities are growing more intensively engaged with China on an extension of the $62 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC)—the flagship project of BRI, which involves the construction of highways, railways and energy pipelines between Pakistan and China—to Afghanistan.
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According to the source, a senior officer in Afghanistan’s foreign service had told him that Chinese officials had engaged with foreign minister Salahuddin Rabbani about five years ago, to discuss the extension of CPEC and BRI. The minister was interested—that is, until an Indian ambassador went on the offensive to push back on the deal. The Indian ambassador to Afghanistan even approached the U.S. ambassador in Kabul to express his concerns, the source said. Ultimately, the American ambassador allegedly pressured Rabbani into backing away from further talks on CPEC with the Chinese.
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The Taliban certainly offers a more unified partner to Chinese. But other regional countries have been trying to bring together warlords to think of resistance rather than of peace with the Taliban,” the source revealed to The Daily Beast.
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As China’s strategic partner, Pakistan could prove a trump card for China in the Afghan endgame.

“I think China could achieve more success than the U.S. in Afghanistan given its close ties with and enormous leverage over Pakistan,” Sudha Ramachandran, an India-based analyst on South Asian political and security issues, told The Daily Beast. “China wants to ensure that instability in Afghanistan does not impact BRI adversely, and it wants to push Afghanistan to join CPEC or BRI.”

Still, China’s ability, Kugelman explained, to deepen its footprint in Afghanistan will “depend in great part on whether it reaches an understanding with the Taliban, which will see its influence continue to grow whether it holds power or not. If the Taliban is okay with China building out infrastructure and other projects in Afghanistan, Beijing will be in a much better place.”

“China could well bring the Taliban on board with BRI. The insurgents have said they will support development projects if they serve Afghan national interests,”
he added.

What China actually needs to extend its Belt and Road program to Afghanistan is, ultimately, peace. Beijing has gone so far as to offer infrastructure and energy projects worth billions of dollars to the Taliban in return for peace in Afghanistan.

“The Taliban isn’t the only challenge to overcome,” said Kugelman. “There are many sources of violence, both anti- and pro-state, in Afghanistan. So China will still face an extremely insecure environment, even if it gets Taliban buy-in for its projects.”

Older article:

https://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-news/afghanistan-taliban-fidaye-mahaz-china-visit-2944921/

Also, the following point cannot be emphasized enough:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93China_relations#Military_cooperation

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The Chinese People's Liberation Army trained and supported the Afghan mujahideen during the Soviet-Afghan war. The training camps were moved from Pakistan into China itself. Anti-aircraft missiles, rocket launchers and machine guns, valued at hundreds of millions, were given to the mujahideen by the Chinese. Chinese military advisors and army troops were present with the Mujahidin during training.[25]

Yes, China and America were fighting on the same side (supporting Afghanistan) against Russia:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/military-decolonization/msg6761/#msg6761

This is what we need to get back to ASAP.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 13, 2021, 03:34:24 am
Nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ-DfaE_WSE
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on July 17, 2021, 03:05:35 am
https://twitter.com/Anti_Parasitism/status/1413430584110723072?s=19
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Yes, this is precisely my concern - unpreparedness against CBRN (Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear) threats.

The IRI does not possess a sufficient amount of hardware to inflict overwhelming defeat upon the enemies.

Operation Martyr Soleimani was underwhelming.

I would add one more: T - for Technological - The IRI must also be equipped to counter technological threats, chiefly those posed by Artificial Intelligence, cybernetics, and cyber warfare.

The solution is for the U.S. to provide Iran with these tools to fight the common enemy.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 28, 2021, 11:41:44 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-says-taliban-expected-play-071534731.html

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KABUL (Reuters) -China told a visiting Taliban delegation on Wednesday it expected the insurgent group to play an important role in ending Afghanistan's war and rebuilding the country, the Chinese foreign ministry said.
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The visit was likely to further cement the insurgent group's recognition on the international stage at a sensitive time even as violence increases in Afghanistan. The militants have a political office in Qatar where peace talks are taking place and this month sent representatives to Iran where they had meetings with an Afghan government delegation.

Good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvZ7jJT3cg4

Too bad the Chinese representatives looked like a bunch of cowards in their Western suits. They need:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 20, 2021, 12:19:28 am
China's rhetorical cowardliness on display again:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-pushes-adoption-language-cultural-070855581.html

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China's ruling Communist Party says it “peacefully liberated" Tibetan peasants from an oppressive theocracy and restored Chinese rule over a region under threat from outside powers.

Firstly, it doesn't matter whether or not the liberation was peaceful. Either it is justified or it is not. If it is justified, it remains justified no matter how much bloodshed it required. If it is unjustified, it remains unjustified even if it was peaceful. That China feels a need to emphasize the "peaceful" attribute actually reveals its lack of confidence in the justification of the liberation, when it should have no reason to lack such confidence.

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Wang, who is a member of the Politburo Standing Committee — the apex of party power — and who oversees policy toward ethnic minorities, said “separatist and sabotage activities committed by the Dalai (Lama) group and hostile external forces have been crushed.”

This part is OK. But here is where the screwup happens:

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Since 1951, Tibet has “embarked on a path from darkness to brightness, from backwardness to progress, from poverty to prosperity, from autocracy to democracy, and from closeness to openness,” Wang said.

Everyone knows China itself is an autocracy, not a democracy. So why claim the opposite? Why use rhetoric that no one will believe, yet which explicitly validates the notion that democracy is superior? Does Wang not understand how bad this makes China look? Does Wang not understand that each time he praises democracy, he is in debasing all the historical ruling dynasties of China while pedestalizing Western civilization? So why do it?!

Contrast with the Taliban, who at least have the courage to simply admit Afghanistan is not democratic:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/legal-decolonization/msg8147/#msg8147

Who is more impressive? (And yes, we could have guessed the answer just from the clothes.....)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 25, 2021, 10:12:54 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/meet-africa-newest-friend-turkey-141049365.html

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Perhaps the pertinent question is how Turkey might smooth-talk African countries at a time when other investors face pushback. In the Sahel region, where hundreds of French companies run everything from mobile networks to mines, and which hosts some 5,000 French troops, there have been protests calling for France to withdraw. Citizens complain that their sovereignty has been undermined and their mineral resources exploited by the former colonial power.
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Turkey has designated relations with Africa as a core pillar of its foreign policy, and opened 30 new embassies between 2002 and 2019, while Turkish Airlines is a major carrier on Africa-Europe routes. In 2008, the African Union designated Turkey as a strategic partner.
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Perhaps the most important reason for Africa’s romance with Turkey, analysts say, is that the country doesn’t carry the baggage of ex-colonial powers like France. Another is religion: Almost all of the countries Turkey has wooed have significant Muslim populations that are more receptive to a partnership with an Islamic power.

Turkey’s relationship with Africa is not saddled with “a complex or paternalistic spirit that most often characterizes the partnership between African countries and Western or American countries,” says Mr. Abdou.

Keep up the good work! (And America should also be trying to learn how to relate to other former colonized countries in an anti-Western way, namely as a fellow formerly colonized country itself.)
Title: Re: Afghanistan
Post by: guest55 on September 01, 2021, 01:35:45 pm
China Says It's Ready to Work With Taliban
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WASHINGTON - With the U.S. military drawdown in Afghanistan, China says it is ready to move ahead in its relations with the Taliban, but foreign policy experts say Beijing remains apprehensive about what comes next and may not devote a vast security and economic commitment to Afghanistan in the near future.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke Monday with Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi about developments in Afghanistan. The State Department said the two discussed the security situation and the two countries’ respective efforts to bring their citizens to safety.

“China keeps in contact and communication with the Afghan Taliban on the basis of fully respecting Afghanistan’s sovereignty and the will of all parties in the country and has been playing a constructive role in seeking a political solution to the Afghan issue,” Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ spokeswoman Hua Chunying said Monday during a briefing.

Hua’s remarks were seen as the latest indication that China is laying the groundwork to endorse the Taliban as Afghanistan’s legitimate government.
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/china-says-its-ready-work-taliban
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 10, 2021, 11:58:28 pm
Good move!

https://sputniknews.com/20210907/taliban-ready-to-have-relations-with-us-welcomes-participation-in-afghan-reconstruction-1088847179.html

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Taliban Ready to Have Relations With US, Welcomes Participation in Afghan Reconstruction
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"Yes, of course, in a new chapter if America wants to have a relation with us, which could be in the interest of both countries and both peoples, and if they want to participate in the reconstruction of Afghanistan, they are welcome", Shaheen said.

The ball is now solely in the US' court. Is the US prepared to be American instead of Western and hence go back to being a Taliban ally just like in the good old days?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/military-decolonization/msg6761/#msg6761

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/military-decolonization/msg7334/#msg7334

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/afghanistan/msg7390/#msg7390

In fact, it could be even better than the old days. The Taliban hints at how:

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"Of course, we won't have any relation with Israel. We want to have relations with other countries, Israel is not among these countries … We would like to have relations with all the regional countries and neighbouring countries as well as Asian countries", Shaheen added.

If the US really wants to make amends, there could be no better first gesture of sincerity than to end its own recognition of Israel.

Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest55 on September 11, 2021, 11:34:59 am
If I were a country I would also like relations with almost every other country in the world EXCEPT FOR ISRAEL!!! The fact that this sentiment is shared by so many across the globe speaks volumes about Israel. The fact that many rightists are still willing to defend Israel in the face of these facts speaks volumes about rightists!!!
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 13, 2021, 02:20:19 am
https://news.yahoo.com/china-pakistan-offer-aid-taliban-225107114.html

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As Western nations debate how best to provide humanitarian aid to Afghanistan without enriching the Taliban, China and Pakistan have already sent planeloads of supplies to the country and are willing to send more, Reuters reports.
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    “China is our most important partner and represents a fundamental and extraordinary opportunity for us,” Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said recently, according to NBC News. “It is ready to invest and rebuild our country.”

It is possible that Afghanistan will join the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).

    "The new administration in Kabul would also be receptive to this and they are keen on it," Mushahid Hussain Sayed, a Pakistani senator and former chairman of the China-Pakistan Institute, told Reuters.

    China's Belt and Road initiative also offers a pathway to "economic viability," Reuters noted.

Also:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinas-fm-wang-visiting-cambodia-053946804.html

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PHNOM PENH, Cambodia (AP) — Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen said Sunday that China has agreed to provide the Southeast Asian nation with grant aid of 1.75 billion yuan ($272 million), announcing the assistance during a visit by Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi.
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Washington’s relations with Hun Sen’s government are frosty, as Beijing’s support allows Cambodia to disregard Western concerns about its poor record in human and political rights, and in turn Cambodia generally supports Beijing’s geopolitical positions on issues such as its territorial claims in the South China Sea.

All the US needs to do to immediately improve its relations with Cambodia (as well as China, Pakistan and Afghanistan) is to become less Western. Remember: what we have in common is that we are all countries formerly colonized by the Western colonial powers!
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 17, 2021, 11:53:10 pm
The correct way to talk to colonialists:

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2021-09-16/china-fires-back-at-aukus-alliance-with-violent-rhetoric-australian-troops-would-be-the-first-to-die

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"Australia has turned itself into an adversary of China," China's English-language Global Times, considered a mouthpiece for the Chinese Communist Party, proclaimed in an editorial Thursday morning.

"If Australia dares to provoke China more blatantly," it added, "or even find fault militarily, China will certainly punish it with no mercy."
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"Thus, Australian troops are also most likely to be the first batch of Western soldiers to waste their lives in the South China Sea."

I especially like the term "Western soldiers" to emphasize who they are. But is it really "with no mercy" if only Western soldiers in the South China Sea are killed? Why not also those on Australian soil? Haven't Western occupiers been occupying long enough the land they stole?

(https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/8350b08da04c5e9c578f14781fb5d39e)

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/has-australia-reconciled-with-its-colonial-past/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: acc9 on October 03, 2021, 12:47:55 am
https://mysingaporenews.blogspot.com/2021/06/an-egyptian-muslim-intellectual-praised.html

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Ismail Bashmori - An Egyptian muslim intellectual praised the dignifiied and righteous China but castigated and condemned the savage barbaric West / US centuries of aggression, colonialism and imperialism.


Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 03, 2021, 02:37:03 am
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China is the only major country in the non-white developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened and say , No, I'm not afraid of you. Do your worst. I'm just as big as you are. All other countries in the Global south are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones, Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India - their leaders are busily listening to the United States , pen and paper in hand, writing down all its demands and going, Yes, sir, Mr. Yankee sir. Let me get on that right away for you.

This is not quite true. Iran has not submitted. On the other hand, China (unlike Iran) recognizes Israel, therefore saying China is standing up to the West is an exaggeration.

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We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China's time and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Will China withdraw recognition of Israel after it has become the greatest power on Earth? Perhaps it will, but I am not at all sure about this.

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What's going on now, this stupid new Cold War is nothing. For her first thirty years , from 1949 to 1979 , China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn't even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan's or Germany's GDP - not even able to prevent famine. And it still didn't submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now?

Actually:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Israel_relations

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During the 1955 Asian–African Conference, China expressed support for the Palestinian right of return, but refrained from denying Israel's right to exist and secretly pursued trade ties with the Israelis.[21]

But it's this line which I really dislike:

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China is a better place to live today than at any time in its previous 5,000 years.

This author is a despicable progressive who has just claimed that the present-day Westernized China is superior to the entire pre-Westernized historical China! I would infinitely prefer to live in any period of ancient China prior to the colonial era over China today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hAmMUkRgCg

I would also prefer to live in Deng-era China over China today, as we already discussed here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/msg6864/#msg6864

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/msg6866/#msg6866

Until Chinese people overwhelmingly feel the same way, China will keep going down the wrong path:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-gorges-american-grain-fed-032748928.html

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New York chain Wolfgang's Steakhouse, which has two restaurants in Beijing, opened another in the southern city of Shenzhen this year and has plans for a fourth in Hangzhou.

The restaurant flies in chilled U.S. beef before ageing it. Its 800g rib-eyes cost $150 apiece.

"Young people like meat, especially 20- and 30-year-olds who come here on dates," said Glen Feng, manager of the Beijing outlets.
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In China, USMEF has doubled the number of training events teaching local chefs how best to cut and slice

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dietary-decolonization/msg8450/#msg8450

Continuing:

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Aren't you at least curious to see a world with a non-white, non-Western leader might look like, after 400 years?

Very much so. Unfortunately, Xi is in many ways a Westerner with Chinese characteristics:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg8673/#msg8673

so we will have to wait at least until he retires or dies to possibly see one.

I also dislike this line of argument:

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You turn a blind eye to the country that gave you dozens of destroyed nations and millions of corpses to see as proof of its brutality, because it also gave you some amazing sitcoms!
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We've seen centuries of horror from the US and we're still giving "Murica the benefit of the doubt , even when the brutal truth is crystal-clear.

It was Western civilization that did the centuries of horror. It was America that did the (Counterculture-inspired) sitcoms. Giving America the benefit of the doubt simply means believing America will one day drive Western civilization out of the US. This is already happening:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/demographic-blueshift/

It is not necessary to be anti-US in order to be pro-China. This is a new bandwagon that many are jumping on, and I fear it will lead to yet another mistake that will not be corrected in time. I repeat: only the US and China working together is strong enough to defeat Western civilization.

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When I hear that China has built its own space station, landed a rover on Mars, extreme poverty, built the earth's biggest city, dam, telescope, 5G network, highway, air purifier, or whatever the heck it is that will come tomorrow - I feel the same pride as if I were Chinese. It's not happening for all of us , but it's happening for one of us and that's a start. There's got to be such a thing as developing-country nationalism - a common nationalism for all the countries that were colonized and plundered and remain economically and politically captured by their ex-rulers. A nationalism for the Global South. We are too divided , too brainwashed, too fooled and weak - most of us still worship the countries that destroyed us, are non-Western on the outside and Western on the inside

I agree in principle, but do you not see that China itself is in many ways Western on the inside? See the part in bold.

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and are leaving our countries in droves to let them burn while we "make a better life for ourselves" in the West. Do you want to live in a Western-dominated Earth for another 400 years? If you do, keep doing what you're doing. But I don't .

Wrong. Migrating to Western countries gives us a chance to transform them into non-Western countries. It is by ceasing to migrate to Western countries that ensures Western dominance will continue.

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NB: Please forward this message to as many people as possible so that the  non-white  world countries and people will wake up and realize how wicked and evil the white race people are especially the Five Eyes Anglo-Saxons of America, England, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other European powers like France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Italy, Sweden and Poland.

Why no mention of Israel among the list of villains (or anywhere else in the entire article, for that matter)? This causes me to wonder if this article is a Zionist psy-op. Remember that when Israel is done exploiting the US, its plan is to cause it to implode so that the US will be too weak to threaten Israel militarily by the time it turns anti-Israel ideologically. This article seems to be coherent with such an objective (also shared by Duginists, for their own purposes). In contrast, we are here to prevent (or at least minimize) a US implosion so that the US remains strong enough to return to the world stage on the side of the formerly colonized countries against all the Western colonial powers, thus fulfilling its historical destiny.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on October 03, 2021, 06:59:26 am
FYI Russia also belongs on the list of enemy countries.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 13, 2021, 04:57:22 am
Congratulations to Barbados!

https://wtop.com/world/2021/09/barbados-to-remove-queen-elizabeth-as-head-of-state-in-december/

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The Caribbean island nation of Barbados — known to some as “Little England” — will officially remove England’s Queen Elizabeth II as its head of state later this year.

Barbados is one of 16 nations that still recognize the Queen of England as head of state. But in about two months, after more than 20 years of planning, it will become the world’s newest Republic, removing the queen as its nominal ruler. That will reduce the number of countries that the queen “rules” to 15. Jamaica, another British Commonwealth, is also considering removing Queen Elizabeth as their head of state.

Hoping Jamaica follows soon!

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As in many democracies, the ruling power of the president will be limited in Barbados. That may change as the country may soon begin to rewrite its constitution.

In doing so, Barbados could potentially adopt the American-style of government — with a president as head of the executive branch, and separate legislative and judicial branches. It could also choose to retain the so-called ‘Westminster system‘, under which it has operated for more than half a century.

Why not take this chance to abandon democracy altogether?
Title: Re: Turkey
Post by: guest55 on October 18, 2021, 07:02:07 pm
Erdogan delivers message of unity during speech in Angola
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“For a fairer world we have to work hand in hand” Turkey’s President Erdogan highlighted the importance of cooperation in standing against colonialism and oppression in Angola on the first leg of his Africa tour.
#Angola #Erdogan #Turkey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRTZgUqzpY

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Exactly. Love to Algeria, turkey, Tunisia,
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This is how great leaders true friends  advice those who in trouble 👍💖🤲
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 24, 2021, 10:21:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjdG8j58XD4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGIwxPp4ogQ
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 26, 2021, 09:52:38 pm
Slow work pays off eventually:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/beijing-billions-buying-commonwealth-130713821.html

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When Tuesday morning dawns in Barbados, British influence in the Caribbean will retreat one more step as the island becomes a republic, ending almost 400 years of loyalty to the Crown.
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In truth, however, Barbados has already drifted away from Britain, and in common with dozens of other Commonwealth members it has become increasingly dependent on another international partner: China.

Britain may have the Queen, but China has the cash, and in recent years Beijing has ploughed almost £500 million into the Barbadian economy, which equates to around a tenth of its gross domestic product. Roads, homes, sewers and a hotel have all been constructed with Chinese yuan, not British pounds or US dollars.

The picture is the same in Jamaica, widely expected to be the next Commonwealth realm to become a republic, where £2.6 billion of Chinese investment, against a GDP of £16.4 billion, makes it the biggest recipient of Chinese cash in the Caribbean.

In total, China has invested £685 billion across 42 Commonwealth countries since 2005, according to figures compiled by the American Enterprise Institute.
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When Barbados becomes a republic next week, it will remain a member of the Commonwealth, the 54-member association which has expanded during the Queen’s reign and remains one of her proudest achievements.

The danger, though, for British diplomacy is that a future president of Barbados could decide to leave the Commonwealth and build new alliances elsewhere.

Common history as former victims of Western colonialism is more important than so-called "Commonwealth". This is what China shares with all Commonwealth countries that used to be British colonies. Take Barbados, for example:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/barbados/

But continuing with the main article:

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On the other side of the world, Commonwealth member Pakistan, which is the biggest recipient of UK Overseas Development Assistance, to the tune of £305 million in 2019, is also being targeted by China. Since 2005 it has received £60 billion of investment from China, more than a fifth of its GDP, and it now buys 70 per cent of its arms from China.
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Biyika Lawrence Songa, an MP in the Parliament of Uganda, a member state which has had almost £9 billion of Chinese investment, says: “Commonwealth countries, including Uganda, are running to China instead of Britain or other countries, because it is very easy to access Chinese money and it is easy for our businessmen to get Chinese visas if they want to go there to buy materials, for example.
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Democracies, with their ever-changing governments, tend to prioritise short-term gains, whereas, says Flather: “China has a permanent government and now an almost permanent leader... it’s able to think long-term.”

Another thing former victims of Western colonialism have in common is that none of our ancient governments used to be democratic. Some of us are democratic at present only due to colonial-era influence. None of us should want to remain democratic in the future.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/western-democracy/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: Zea_mays on December 16, 2021, 07:37:34 pm
If you edit Trump out of this and replace him with a generic representation of US-North Korean diplomacy, this is actually kind of good. (At least until it got to 2:50 and tried to pitch consumerism/Westernization as a "benefit" of diplomacy).

Video from 2018 included in the link:
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Trump pitched peace to Kim Jong Un with this Hollywood-style video starring Kim as the leading man

It features epic shots and frames Kim as a potential "hero of his people" who can "remake history."

Trump said that Kim and his aides "loved" watching it, and hoped they would make it a reality.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pitches-peace-to-kim-jong-un-with-bizarre-hollywood-style-video-2018-6
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 16, 2021, 10:16:50 pm
BOYCOTT LITHUANIA!

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18034/lithuania-china

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China has blocked all imports from Lithuania and has ordered multinational companies to sever ties with the Baltic country or face being shut out of the Chinese market.
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Lithuanian President Gitanas Nausėda says that his country will not capitulate to bullying from China and that he is committed to defending the principles and values of democracy from attack.

Nauseda's face:

(https://lithuaniatribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Dr.-Gitanas-Naus%C4%97da-678x381.png)

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Lithuania, which has a population of fewer than 3 million, regained independence in 1990 after almost half a century of occupation by the Soviet Union. Lithuania has become one of the strongest defenders of democracy within the European Union and NATO.

On December 9, Lithuania's Vice Minister for Foreign Affairs, Mantas Adomėnas, said that China had warned multinational companies to stop doing business with Lithuanian suppliers:

    "China has been sending messages to multinationals that if they use parts and supplies from Lithuania, they will no longer be allowed to sell to the Chinese market or get supplies there. We have seen some companies cancel contracts with Lithuanian suppliers."

Adomenas' face:

(https://lithuaniatribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/8125516-678x381.jpg)

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The Lithuanian Confederation of Industrialists, which represents thousands of Lithuanian companies, confirmed that some multinational companies that buy goods from Lithuanian suppliers were being targeted by China. In an interview with the Reuters news agency, Confederation President Vidmantas Janulevičius said:

    "This week was the first time we saw direct Chinese pressure on a supplier to drop Lithuanian-made goods. Previously, we only had threats it could happen, now they became reality.

    "For us, the most painful part is that it's a European company. Many Lithuanian businesses are suppliers for such companies."

Janulevicius' face:

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/f16d7e_b3d53887dfe34b488886caa745249428~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_628%2Ch_667%2Cal_c%2Cq_90/file.jpg)

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Lithuania's direct trade with China is relatively small; the country exported €300 million worth of goods to China in 2020, less than 1% of its total exports. It is, however, home to hundreds of companies that make products for multinationals that sell to China.

On December 1, China delisted Lithuania as a country of origin, meaning that its goods cannot clear customs. Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis said that China effectively had blocked all imports from Lithuania.

In a December 3 interview with the Financial Times, Landsbergis denounced the "unannounced" and "unprecedented" sanctions. He said that Lithuania would ask the European Commission, the administrative body of the European Union, for assistance.

Landsbergis' face:

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lithuanias-foreign-minister-gabrielius-landsbergis-speaks-while-for-picture-id1235273307)

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Lithuania's Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs Arnoldas Pranckevičius, speaking at the Aspen Security Forum in Washington, DC, warned that China's harassment of Lithuania should be a "wakeup call" for Europe:

    "China is trying to make an example out of us — a negative example — so that other countries do not follow our path. Therefore, it is a matter of principle how the Western community, the United States, and European Union react."

Pranckevicius' face:

(https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/arnoldas-pranckevicius_0.jpg)

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Help from the European Commission is unlikely to come soon, as the EU is deeply divided over relations with China. Larger member states such as France and Germany are reluctant to jeopardize economic ties with China, while smaller member states, including Lithuania, Czechia, Slovakia and Slovenia have urged the EU to stand united against Chinese pressure.

Turandom is the problem.

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Jakub Janda, director of the Prague-based European Values Center for Security Policy, concluded:

    "China as a communist superpower is so scared of 3-million Lithuania on the other side of the globe. Lithuania is the bravest country in Europe. We should all stand up with Lithuania."

Janda's face:

(https://www.mujrozhlas.cz/sites/default/files/styles/detail/public/rapi/5bc048ef6338c2fc161c26b436cedd04.jpg?h=2e5c549a&itok=UjiQDdtw)

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/msg10151/#msg10151
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 27, 2021, 11:14:00 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/calls-reparations-old-emancipation-global-152718865.html

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Dozens of nations were involved in the slave trade. How should they compensate descendants?

By prohibiting those of colonialist bloodlines from reproducing, and letting in those whom they colonized to become their demographic replacements.

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The call for reparations is being sounded beyond the U.S., with activists and political leaders demanding accountability for slavery and colonization of their countries.

In Jamaica, which became a British colony in the 1650s, the government has begun a push for reparations, seeking redress for nearly two centuries of slavery on the Caribbean island.

Officials announced the effort in July, with one legislator suggesting that the government seek roughly 7.6 billion British pounds, or roughly $10.4 billion in compensation from Britain. An official amount has yet to be publicly confirmed.

“Our African ancestors were forcibly removed from their home and suffered unparalleled atrocities in Africa to carry out forced labor to the benefit of the British Empire,” Olivia Grange, Jamaica’s minister of culture, gender, entertainment and sport, told Reuters over the summer. “Redress is well overdue.”

Indeed. But should it be money, or should it be justice?

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For those who support the growing movement, the question is how global powers should compensate the descendants of the enslaved people whose labor and commodification helped fuel the economic rise of several Western countries.

Those who did the labour should own what the labour produced. Not the estimated equivalent present-day currency value of what the labour produced (which is worthless in reality), but the actual infrastructure and other hard assets of those Western countries.

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“The royal family benefited from slavery financially and many of our African brothers and sisters died in battle for change,” David Denny, an activist and general secretary of the Caribbean Movement for Peace and Integration, told CNN in November.

So the Windsors should be prohibited from reproducing.

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“The essence of the reparations movement is that if you cause harm to a group of people, you have a duty to repair that harm,” said Verene Shepherd, a historian and the director of the Centre for Reparation Research at the University of the West Indies. “Those who benefited from the labor of the ancestors of African people are still benefiting from the wealth. There is an intergenerational generation of wealth on one side, and an intergenerational transmission of poverty on the other.”

Yes. And financial reparations will not change this more than momentarily. Only by prohibiting reproduction of colonialist bloodlines will the intergenerational generation of wealth surely end, since only then will there be no subsequent generations of those bloodlines.

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Critics of reparations programs often argue that slavery and colonization are past offenses and don’t justify compensation.

If an individual of a colonialist bloodline did not personally participate in colonization, that individual should indeed not be punished for colonialism. However, they should not be allowed to reproduce in order that their bloodline, which did participate in colonization, be eliminated. This solution alone is fair to both the individual who did not participate in colonization and the bloodline (carried by the individual) which did.

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In 2015, then-British Prime Minister David Cameron had said that the country would not pay reparations, instead calling for Jamaica and the U.K. to “continue to build for the future.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron

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He has also referenced the German Jewish ancestry of one of his great-grandfathers, Arthur Levita, a descendant of the Yiddish author Elia Levita.[21][22]

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/

Back to main article:

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There has also been legal debate over the extent that countries involved in historical abuses can be held responsible for reparations in the present, with some scholars noting that while slavery is morally abhorrent, it was not illegal internationally when the transatlantic slave trade began.

Reparations activists, however, argue that the focus on slavery’s once widespread “legality” dismisses how enslaved people suffered under the practice and gives too much weight to Western legal ideas. “European countries behave as if the law said that Africans were not people, African societies were not recognized as societies,” Bohardsingh said. “The only law that they are having a conversation about when they bring up international law is European law, which allowed for the taking of people from another continent, enslaved them, and then said ‘Well, our law said that slavery is legal, so it is legal.’”

“The question is whose law are you going to judge the legality of slavery by?” she added.

Good point, hence the parallel need for:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/legal-decolonization/

Because we will not sound too convincing in arguing against the moral validity of Western law when formerly colonized countries (including Jamaica) themselves still use Western law!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiciary_of_Jamaica

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The judiciary of Jamaica is based on the judiciary of the United Kingdom.[1] The courts are organized at four levels, with additional provision for appeal to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in London. The Court of Appeal is the highest appellate court. The Supreme Court has unlimited jurisdiction in all cases, and sits as the Circuit Court to try criminal cases. The Parish Court (formerly known as the Resident Magistrate's court) in each parish hears both criminal and civil cases, excluding grave offences. The Petty Sessions are held under Justices of the Peace, with power to hear minor crimes.[2][3]

Jamaica is a common law jurisdiction, in which precedents from English law and British Commonwealth tradition may be taken into account.

Only when we ourselves have ceased to rely on Western law in arbitrating our own internal disputes can we claim seriously that Western law is wrong.

Back to article:

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“Tokenistic gestures are not reparations at all,” said Kehinde Andrews, a professor of Black studies at the U.K.’s Birmingham City University and author of “The New Age of Empire: How Racism & Colonialism Still Rule the World.” He added that these sorts of announcements and programs are “worse than nothing because they pretend to be something and people celebrate them as progress.”

“We need to be careful with what is labeled and called reparations, because it can actually do more harm than good,” he said.

Anything other than prohibiting all colonialist bloodlines from reproducing should be regarded as a tokenistic gesture.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 05, 2022, 08:34:26 pm
Is the US remembering Clintonism?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-imposes-sanctions-against-bosnian-152139528.html

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration announced sanctions Wednesday against Bosnian Serb leader Milorad Dodik, accusing him of “corrupt activities” that threaten to destabilize the region and undermine a U.S.-brokered peace accord from more than 25 years ago.

The Treasury Department also alleged that Dodik has used his leadership position to accumulate wealth through graft and bribery, including by providing government contracts and monopolies to business associates.
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Dodik, a member of Bosnia’s tripartite presidency that also includes a Bosniak and a Croat official, has for years been advocating the separation of the Bosnian Serb semi-autonomous mini-state from Bosnia and having it become part of neighboring Serbia.

That what would be a breach of the Dayton Accords, the 1995 U.S.-sponsored peace agreement that ended Bosnia’s bloody civil war, which killed more than 100,000 people and left millions homeless in the worst carnage in Europe since World War II.
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With tacit support from Russia and Serbia, Dodik recently intensified his secessionist campaign, pledging to separate from Bosnia’s loose central authority and form a Bosnian Serb army, judiciary and tax system.

Bosniak officials have warned that Dodik’s policies could lead to clashes and called on the U.S. and the EU to crack down against him and his associates.

Of course, the only correct way to crack down is to drop WMDs on Serbia continuously until it surrenders unconditionally. Biden is too cowardly to do something like this.

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Dodik has repeatedly said he doesn’t care about new sanctions, adding that this would bring Serbs even closer to their “true friends” — Russia and China.

Now if only China could side with the US against the Serbs, the anti-Turanist coalition would begin to be formed.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: Dazhbog on January 06, 2022, 09:23:35 am
Now if only China could side with the US against the Serbs, the anti-Turanist coalition would begin to be formed.

Do you know why China turned pro-Serb in the first place? AFAIK China's Cold War-era ally in the Balkans was actually Albania, one of Serbia's staunchest enemies!
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 06, 2022, 09:08:42 pm
China will turn a blind eye to whomever gives lip service to its domestic policy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Serbia_relations

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Vučić has stated that "Serbia firmly supports the Chinese government’s positions in safeguarding China’s core interests including Hong Kong, Taiwan and Xinjiang and supports the "One Belt And One Road" initiative"[12]

This is why I despise Xi. Instead of having moral principles, he only wants social validation. As long as you say you agree with what he is doing, he will let you get away with anything:

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China backs Serbia's position regarding Kosovo.
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Serbian Deputy Prime Minister Božidar Đelić told reporters after a meeting in Beijing with Politburo member Liu Yandong that China reiterated its support to help Serbia preserve her territorial integrity. "Just as Serbia supports the one China policy, China supports Serbia as its best and most stable friend in southeastern Europe."[16]

Albania, on the other hand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania%E2%80%93China_relations#Issues_of_human_rights_in_China

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On 6 October 2020, Albania was one of a group of 39 signatory countries to a statement at the United Nations which denounced China for its treatment of ethnic Uyghur and other Muslim minorities in Xinjiang and for curtailing freedoms in Hong Kong.[13] [14]

Albania happens to be misinformed on this particular issue. But the amoral and psychologically insecure Xi, instead of being able to grasp that Albania is motivated by basically good intentions behind the denunciation whereas Serbia is just playing him by vocalizing support, interprets their respective positions in the most superficial way possible as either pro-China or anti-China, and then supporting whomever is more pro-China, thus taking the wrong side.

(https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/lg/public/2014/01/29/rtr2wdey.jpg)

(My prediction is that Israel is preparing to play the same trick on China, and China will fall for it unless it gets more competent leadership than the subhuman Eurocentrist pictured above.)

This all goes back to the very core of True Left ideology. So long you want something for yourself, evil can always make you become its protector by becoming the one who will give you what you want in return. Evil can only be destroyed by those who want nothing except the destruction of evil itself, for only then have you left evil nothing with which to bargain with you.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: Zhang Caizhi on January 15, 2022, 05:45:38 am
Now if only China could side with the US against the Serbs, the anti-Turanist coalition would begin to be formed.

Do you know why China turned pro-Serb in the first place? AFAIK China's Cold War-era ally in the Balkans was actually Albania, one of Serbia's staunchest enemies!

A feud happened between 2 leaders starting from then leader of Albania, Enver Hoxha. He disagreed with Mao's thought about the three worlds theory and China's diplomacy to the USA.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Albanian_split

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The Sino-Albanian split was the gradual worsening of relations between the People's Socialist Republic of Albania and the People's Republic of China in the period 1972–1978. Both countries had supported each other in the Soviet–Albanian and Sino-Soviet splits, together declaring the necessity of defending Marxism–Leninism against what they regarded as Soviet revisionism within the international communist movement. By the early 1970s, however, Albanian disagreements with certain aspects of Chinese policy deepened as the visit of Nixon to China along with the Chinese announcement of the "Three Worlds Theory" produced strong apprehension in Albania's leadership under Enver Hoxha. Hoxha saw in these events an emerging Chinese alliance with American imperialism and abandonment of proletarian internationalism. In 1978, China broke off its trade relations with Albania, signalling an end to the informal alliance which existed between the two states.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 19, 2022, 09:43:02 pm
Chinese slowness:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-shocked-slovenias-plans-allow-093000879.html

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The Chinese foreign ministry said it was "shocked" by Slovenia's plans to allow Taiwan to open an office there, saying it would damage ties between China and Europe.

Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian also said that comments by Slovenian Prime Minister Janez Jansa, who made strong criticisms of Beijing in a television interview on Monday, were "dangerous".

Why are you shocked? Slovenia is part of Turandom!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/msg2025/#msg2025

Turandom is increasingly becoming the intellectual core of Western civilization. Western civilization will always see China as a threat. Therefore Turandom will increasingly feel compelled to see China as a threat. This is simple logic.

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It responded furiously to Lithuania after the European country signed an agreement with Taiwan in July to open a de facto embassy for the island under the name Taiwanese Representative Office in Lithuania. The office opened in November.

Lithuania is also part of Turandom. Duh!

So long as China continues to misunderstand what Western civilization is (ie. NOT Counterculture) and hence where it is currently based (pun intended), it will keep getting its foreign policy wrong.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 27, 2022, 08:45:56 pm
Harris actually does some work for a change?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kamala-harris-attend-inauguration-incoming-130141394.html

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Kamala Harris to attend inauguration of incoming socialist Honduran president with anti-Semitic ties
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Harris will be attending the inauguration of Honduran President-elect Xiomara Castro on Thursday following Castro's victory to the Central American nation’s highest office after running on a socialist platform.

The vice president has maintained a line of communication with Castro since the Honduran president-elect’s win, taking a call in December to "deepen the partnership between the United States and Honduras," according to Harris spokeswoman Sabrina Singh.
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Castro’s running mate, First Vice President-elect Salvador Nasralla. carries some serious baggage as well, having made past unsavory comments about Jews and Israel.

In 2020, Nasralla claimed that outgoing Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández’s "boss is the government of Israel" and said in a debate that Jews control the global money supply.

All New World countries should cease to recognize Israel ASAP, following the example of Venezuela:

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Also raising eyebrows is Castro’s husband, former Honduran President Mel Zelaya, a wealthy landowner in the country who was deposed from his presidency by a military coup in 2009.

Zelaya was Castro’s campaign manager and is a polarizing figure in Honduran politics. The former president was ousted after trying to recreate the policies of Venezuelan socialist President Hugo Chávez.
Title: Re: Duginism
Post by: guest55 on March 04, 2022, 08:27:27 pm
Japan warned Russia: Stop the invasion in the Kuril Islands
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Japan said, Russia occupied the southern part of the Kuril Islands, which contradicts international law, as well as the invasion of Ukraine. The Japanese government said, "The Northern Territories are occupied by Russia, and we believe that this contradicts the international law, as well as the ongoing attack of the Russian army on Ukraine."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztXzIocbyQI

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 04, 2022, 08:46:24 pm
Good, but why only mention the Kuril Islands? Make Karafuto Japanese again!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/sakhalin/

(https://www.hoppou.go.jp/dist/images/en/EN-history_map_01.png)

Don't even ask Russia for permission; just take back what is yours!
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on March 14, 2022, 07:35:10 pm
Signs of spine?

https://tfipost.com/2020/07/this-is-our-land-china-now-claims-russias-vladivostok-as-part-of-its-territory

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Chinese internet users, including diplomats and officials, claim that Vladivostok used to be a part of China. They claim it was Qing’s Manchurian homeland but was annexed by the Russian empire in 1860 after China was defeated by the British and the French during the Second Opium war.

Shen Shiweim, a journalist at the Chinese State-run broadcaster, China Global Television Network (CGTN) tweeted, “This “tweet” of #Russian embassy to #China isn’t so welcome on Weibo. The history of Vladivostok (literally ‘Ruler of the East’) is from 1860 when Russia built a military harbor. But the city was Haishenwai as Chinese land, before Russia annexed it via unequal Treaty of Beijing.”
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China’s claims over Russia’s Vladivostok are not limited to the state-owned media. Even Chinese diplomats have jumped in. Zhang Heqing, a wolf-warrior from China currently stationed at the country’s Mission in Pakistan said, “Isn’t this what in the past was our Haishenwai?”

Meanwhile, the CCP IT cell too has gone berserk. A Weibo user wrote, “Today we can only endure, but the Chinese people will remember, and one generation after another will continue to remember!” SCMP quotes another user as saying, “We must believe that this ancestral land will return home in the future!”

Background:

https://www.russia-briefing.com/news/dangers-building-ultra-patriotism-chinese-claim-vladivostok-haishenwai.html/

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Having been battered by British and French during this war, China learned of Russia’s strategic build-up of military presence on its shared northern border. Russia was only willing to withdraw troops if China were to cede territory along this border.

Facing potential attacks by Russia from the north and the onslaught of British and French forces on the south, the Qing dynasty was compelled to comply with Russia demands to stave off invasion on at least one front. This led to the signing of the Treaty of Aigun in 1858, that formed much of the present day borders between Russia and China, along the Amur River. The Chinese have historically called this treaty an “unequal treaty”, one in a series of treaties signed between the Qing dynasty and neighbouring states in the region.

Russian diplomat Count Nikolay Pavlovich Ignatyev had witnessed the havoc and plunder that the British and French had unleashed upon Beijing, including engaging in loot and plunder and the burning down of the Old Summer Palace, specifically ordered by Britain’s Lord Elgin. Elgin, having set his eyes on the loot and destruction of the Forbidden City next, urged the Chinese to sit at the negotiating table with Ignatyev as the mediator in what came to be known as the Convention of Peking between China, Russia, Britain and France.

As a result of this convention, in October 1860, the British acquired the Kowloon Peninsula and control over Hong Kong. Among other agreements, opium was made legal, a move that economically benefited France and Britain. From China’s perspective, these agreements were exploitative and sharply skewed in favour of the two western nations.

Knowing how desperately China was trying to protect its capital, Ignatyev pushed for the Qing rulers to accept the terms of the agreements, and also threw in what the Chinese call “Outer Manchuria” for Russia, an area significantly larger than what it had originally desired. One part of this territory is now called the Primorsky Krai. According to Lukin, the Russian government had already established a military outpost in the region even before signing a formal treaty of cessation with the Qing dynasty.

This area of the Primorsky Krai, along with the Golden Horn Bay, with its administrative capital as Vladivostok, became an important sea port for Russia and allowed the country to expand economic and military influence in this part of the Pacific. It is also known as the Russian Maritime Province. Today, Vladivostok is the base for the Russian Pacific Fleet.

(https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Semiha_Karaoglu/publication/338659850/figure/fig4/AS:848414883463169@1579289279887/Greater-Manchuria-Russian-outer-Manchuria-is-the-lighter-red-region-to-the-upper-right_Q640.jpg)

(https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2017/06/f114660d2bf5452994135c4c.gif)

(https://i.redd.it/qsqtszypd4rz.jpg)
https://youtu.be/YCgxRlYGk_w
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 16, 2022, 12:01:54 am
For completeness, it is worth noting that Ukrainians were also in on the colonization of Outer Manchuria:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Ukraine

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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Green_Ukraine_-_Zeleny_Klyn_-_Russian_Federation.jpg)

Green Ukraine, also known as Zeleny Klyn (Ukrainian: Зелений клин, romanized: Zelenyy Klyn, Russian: Зелёный Клин, romanized: Zelyonyy Klin, literally: "the green gore/wedge"),[3] is a historical Ukrainian name for the land in the Russian Far East area between the Amur River and the Pacific Ocean, an area roughly corresponding to the Chinese concept of Outer Manchuria.

After the Russian Revolution of 1917, Transcathay (Ukrainian: Закитайщина, romanized: Zakytayshchyna) was a projected country in the Russian Far East.[4] After the establishment of the Bolshevik Far Eastern Republic on April 6, 1920, Far Eastern areas with an ethnic Ukrainian majority attempted to secede and establish an entity called Green Ukraine.[citation needed] This movement quickly proved abortive.
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Ukrainians_in_Russian_regions_1926.jpg/1024px-Ukrainians_in_Russian_regions_1926.jpg)

The Zeleny Klyn (Ukrainian: Зелений клин), or Zelena Ukraina was an area of land settled by Ukrainians which is a part of the Russian Far East in the area of the Amur River and the Pacific Ocean. It was named by the Ukrainian settlers. The territory consists of over 1,000,000 square kilometres and has a population of 3.1 million (1958). The Ukrainian population in 1897 made up 15% of the Primorskaya Oblast's population.[5]

Zeleny Klyn became part of the Russian Empire much later than Siberia and other parts of the Far East. The first attempts at colonizing the area date back to the mid-17th century when Yerofey Khabarov founded the fort of Albazin on the Amur River. From that time, constant skirmishes took place with the Manchu people of China. In 1689 China and Russia signed the Treaty of Nerchinsk, which granted Russia limited territory.

In the mid 19th century, the second Russian expansion took place after Russia lost the Crimean War (1853–1856). A number of Cossack settlements were established on the Amur river. China had become far weaker than Russia at the time and ceded territory to Russia in the Treaty of Aigun of 1858 and by the Convention of Peking of 1860 (see Amur Annexation).

During this period only a small number of settlers settled in the region consisting of some 14,000 Cossacks and 2,500 Russian soldiers. In 1861 two oblasts were established, the Primorsky and Amur. Vladivostok was founded in 1860, Khabarovsk in 1858.

In 1882 free transportation was announced for settlers to the area from Ukraine and free land was offered to settlers. By 1897 the population had increased to 310,000. With the establishment of the railroad in 1901 over 14,000 settlers were moving to the area per year, with a maximum of 78,000 settlers moving there in 1907.

After 1917[citation needed] the area came under the jurisdiction of Admiral Alexander Kolchak. In 1920 the Far East Republic was established as a buffer republic between Russia and Japan. In 1922 the republic joined with the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. In 1934 the Jewish Autonomous Oblast region was established with its capital at Birobidzhan.

NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.
Title: Re: China and United States Relations
Post by: guest55 on March 17, 2022, 09:04:26 pm
4 ways China is quietly making life harder for Russia
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/17/business/china-russia-sanctions-friction-intl-hnk/index.html

Letting the ruble drop
Sitting on reserves
Withholding aircraft parts
Freezing infrastructure investment
 
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on March 20, 2022, 11:29:09 am
Myth of Chinese debt trap in Africa (for the ZC idiots who claim that China is "colonizing" Africa):
https://youtu.be/_-QDEWwSkP0
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 26, 2022, 09:51:22 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinese-foreign-minister-see-indian-023446795.html

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"China does not pursue the so-called "unipolar Asia" and respects India's traditional role in the region. The whole world will pay attention when China and India work hand in hand."

This on its own is a good vision. However, the correct way to see improved relations between India and China is that this makes it easier for both to turn on Russia. I fear this is not what either is thinking about, though:

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India and China each consider Russia a friend and have rejected Western calls for condemnation of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which Russia calls a "special military operation".

If China and India are improving relations with each other not to isolate Russia but instead to consolidate their respective relationships with Russia, then this is going all wrong.

Dugin wants to present India has having only two options:

https://www.india-seminar.com/2020/728/728_aleksandr_dugin.htm

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This possibly explains India’s hesitation to join the multipolar club where two poles, Russia and China, are almost fully established, or come closer to the West and help contain the emergence of a Greater Eurasia. Both paths are feasible and can be evaluated.

Why not the third option of forming an anti-colonialist club with China and then winning over the US to join this club also? India, with its presently closer relations to the US, could become the bridge linking up the US with China. Of course Dugin does not discuss this possibility because he doesn't want anyone to even think about it.

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India, in accordance to this forecast, will be the second most important economy in world by GDP next to China and ahead of the US and Europe. Together with China, it would gives us total dominance in the world economy; 53% (India China) against 28% (US EU). It would tilt the balance of the world economy to the East.

If we switch the US (a fellow former victim of Western colonialism) over to the same side as China and India, the dominance over the totality of the Western colonial powers (including Russia) will be even greater! More importantly, it will represent the collective triumph of former victims of Western colonialism over their former colonizers. In contrast, letting Russia - not only a Western colonial power but the only one which still hasn't given back its stolen land! - join the India-China bloc would screw up the entire story.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on March 26, 2022, 10:23:03 pm
I think Dugin is selling the Russia-India alliance based on the latter's hostility toward Maoist China, and the Russia's "support" of India during the Sino-Indian war.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on March 31, 2022, 06:45:42 pm
Also, many Indians are apprehensive of China because of alleged "Han supremacy".
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest55 on April 01, 2022, 11:07:33 pm
Japan calls Russia's South Kuril Islands 'illegally occupied'
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The Japanese authorities have reinstated the formulation about the status of South Kuril Islands. These islands are "are an inalienable part of Japan and are currently illegally occupied by Russia."
https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/150932-japan_russia_kurils/

Clash between Japan and Russia looms as Tokyo steps up Kuril Island claims: ‘Russian Army is illegal occupier’
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The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan will now call the Kuril Islands a part of Japan occupied by the Russian Federation, Kyodo, the Japanese media informs.
— Svidomi (@Svidomi_En) March 31, 2022
https://www.cityam.com/clash-between-japan-and-russia-looms-as-tokyo-steps-up-kuril-island-claims-russian-army-is-illegal-occupier/
(https://www.cityam.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Japan-Russia.png)

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“The Northern Territories belong to Japan. They are the territory on which Japan has sovereignty,” Kishida said.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 01, 2022, 11:36:11 pm
So is Japan willing to fight Russia? If so, there is no better time than now to do so, while Russia is already occupied with Ukraine and with public opinion as against Russia as it is. If we miss this chance, how long will we have to wait for another comparable one?
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest55 on April 02, 2022, 01:08:42 pm
So is Japan willing to fight Russia? If so, there is no better time than now to do so, while Russia is already occupied with Ukraine and with public opinion as against Russia as it is. If we miss this chance, how long will we have to wait for another comparable one?

Exactly. Other people have been pointing this out as well, maybe just not as bluntly. This would be the perfect time to open a second front on Russia!
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 13, 2022, 02:26:27 am
A milestone:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/zealand-court-rules-suspect-extradited-055104861.html

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WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) — New Zealand's top court on Wednesday ruled a man can be extradited to China to face a murder charge — a landmark judgment that goes against the trend set by most democratic nations.

In a 3-2 decision, the Supreme Court found that China was able to give New Zealand officials sufficient assurance that the accused, Kyung Yup Kim, could get a fair trial and wouldn't be tortured.

Concerns over those issues have been enough to stop most democratic countries from extraditing suspects to China in recent times. Like many other nations, New Zealand doesn't have a formal extradition treaty with China.

The decision is sure to be celebrated by China's ruling Communist Party as not only a legal victory but also a diplomatic and public relations success.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on April 20, 2022, 06:52:26 pm
Deng Xiaoping on Third Worldism:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/deng-xiaoping/1984/130.htm
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China’s foreign policy can be summed up in two sentences. First, to safeguard world peace we oppose hegemony. Second, China will always belong to the Third World. It belongs to the Third World today, and it will do so even when it becomes prosperous and powerful, because it shares a common destiny with all Third World countries. China will never seek hegemony or bully others, but will always side with the Third World.

Among a host of problems in the present-day world, two especially stand out. One is the problem of peace. Now there are nuclear weapons; if war broke out, they could inflict untold losses on mankind. To work for peace one must oppose hegemony and power politics. The other is the North-South problem. It is very pressing at present. The developed countries are getting richer and richer while the developing countries are getting relatively poorer and poorer. If the North-South problem is not solved, it will hinder the development of the world economy. The solution, of course, lies in North-South dialogue, and we support dialogue. But dialogue alone is not enough; cooperation among Third World countries — in other words, South-South cooperation — should be stepped up as well. Exchanges, learning from each other and cooperation among these countries can help solve many problems, and prospects are promising. The developed countries should appreciate that greater development of their economies is impossible without growth in the economies of Third World countries.

I actually like the term "South South cooperation", as it fosters not only an anti-Turanian consciousness, but also an anti-Giant consciousness (and hence distances China from the "Arctic alliance").
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 21, 2022, 02:50:26 am
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China will always belong to the Third World.

Yes. Whereas Russia will never belong to the Third World. The US, on the other hand, will eventually join the Third World.

Meanwhile, more good signs:

https://us.yahoo.com/news/working-assertive-china-must-zealand-001318730.html

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Working with assertive China a must - New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern
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Ms Ardern rejected the idea that it was time for New Zealand to join the US, UK, and Australia in the Aukus security alliance to help ward off China's influence in the region.
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"We've asked the US to take an interest in the economic architecture of our region, it can't just be about defence and security arrangements," she said.

"It should be about the wellbeing of the region as a whole. And you're starting to see a response from the US on that front."

New Zealand has been criticised for not taking a harder line on China.

"The region as a whole" includes China, as opposed to Aukus which is designed to exclude it.

Moreover, we see it is perfectly possible to still be anti-Russia without also being anti-China:

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'Ukraine war is solely Russia's fault'
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But it isn't useful to turn this into a war of ideology, she said - refusing to frame it as a conflict between autocracies and democracies.

"Let's not be quick to create a binary situation between two differing schisms in the world. It is Russia, who has perpetrated this, it is Russia who must be spoken firmly against, and let's do everything we can diplomatically to ensure that that doesn't grow beyond Russia."

Ardern wisely rejects positing equivalency between Ukraine and Taiwan. This is the approach we need to turn China against Russia as opposed to pushing China closer to Russia.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest55 on April 23, 2022, 10:13:52 pm
Kaliningrad votes for independence from Russia. Watch till the the end
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Referendum on independence is a favourite russian instrument in the occupied territories.
But will it work against Moscow?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaXrG6_Qs6Q

"Freedom" does not imply people get to trash the planet however they see fit, because this would rob other people of their "freedom". If this is what Putin means by "nations should have the freedom to choose their own future" then it is one more reason he should be strongly opposed.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 06, 2022, 08:11:13 pm
Someone gets it:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/okinawa-seeks-tokyos-help-lowering-093615478.html

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Japan's Okinawa urges government to reduce China tensions

TOKYO (AP) — Japan should focus more on peaceful diplomacy with China instead of on military deterrence as tensions rise around Chinese-claimed Taiwan, the governor of the nearby southern Japanese island of Okinawa said Friday.
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Noting that China is Japan's biggest trading partner and that Japan is China's second largest, Tamaki said their close economic ties are indispensable.

“I call for the Japanese government to always maintain calm and peaceful diplomacy and dialogue to improve its relations with China, while working toward easing U.S.-China tension,” he said.

We should all be joining forces to fight Turandom.

Related:

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Because of the U.S. bases, Okinawa faces noise, pollution, aircraft accidents and crime related to American troops on a daily basis, Tamaki said.

Hence the need for:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/military-decolonization/

Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 19, 2022, 08:58:35 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippines-marcos-says-china-ties-085059230.html

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Philippines' Marcos wants China ties to 'shift to higher gear' under his presidency
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"The way forward is to expand our relationship not only diplomatic, not only trade, but also in culture, even in education, even in knowledge, even in health, to address whatever minor disagreements that we have right now," Marcos said in a statement.

Yes!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_in_the_Philippines

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Yi Jing, a Chinese monk and scholar, stayed in Sumatra from 687 to 689 on his way to India. He wrote on the Srivijaya's splendour: "Buddhism was flourishing throughout the islands of Southeast Asia. Many of the kings and the chieftains in the islands in the southern seas admire and believe in Buddhism, and their hearts are set on accumulating good action."[citation needed] The Srivijaya empire flourished as a Buddhist cultural centre over 600 years from 650 to 1377 in Palembang, Sumatra. Built as a mandala on a hill from 770 to 825 in central Java, the Borobodur stands today as a living testament of the Srivijaya empire's grandeur. Three generations of the Sailendra kings built the temple that displays a three-dimensional view of the Vajrayāna Buddhist cosmology. Later on, the Javanese Majapahit empire took control over the Srivijaya and became the leading Buddhist cultural centre from 1292 to 1478 in Southeast Asia. Both empires supplemented their otherwise austere practice of Theravāda with the rituals of Vajrayāna in the 7th century.[7]
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    "The gentleness of Tagalog customs that the first Spaniards found, very different from those of other provinces of the same race and in Luzon itself, can very well be the effect of Buddhism
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Evidence indicates that Butuan was in contact with the Song dynasty of China by at least 1001 CE. The Chinese annal Song Shih recorded the first appearance of a Butuan tributary mission (Li Yui-han 李竾罕 and Jiaminan) at the Chinese Imperial Court on March 17, 1001 CE and it described Butuan (P'u-tuan) as a small Hindu country with a Buddhist monarchy in the sea that had a regular connection with the Champa kingdom and intermittent contact with China under the Rajah named Kiling.[28]

(https://image.slidesharecdn.com/rommelbanlaoirp-chinasecurityrelationsjune62013-pptx-130606071919-phpapp01/85/philippineschina-security-relations-and-the-south-china-sea-disputes-current-situation-and-future-directions-4-320.jpg?cb=1370543614)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 20, 2022, 11:57:42 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/east-timor-president-pledges-stronger-013350675.html

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East Timor’s new president pledges stronger ties with China

DILI (Reuters) - East Timorese independence figure and Nobel laureate Jose Ramos-Horta was inaugurated as the country's fifth president on Friday, pledging to dedicate his time in office to strengthen national unity and forge closer relations with China.
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Ramos-Horta also said he would continue to foster a special relationship with the United States, and advocate for East Timor to join the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).

Hopefully this can also contribute to bringing China and the US closer together.

Timor's friendly relations with China go way back:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-colonial_Timor

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proto-Malays from 2500 BC arrived from south China and north Indochina.[4] Timorese origin myths tell of ancestors that sailed around the eastern end of Timor arriving on land in the south. Some stories recount Timorese ancestors journeying from Malay Peninsula or the Minangkabau Highlands of Sumatra.[5]
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Contact with the outside world was via networks of foreign seafaring traders from as far as China and India that served the archipelago.
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Oral traditions of people of Wehali principality of East Timor mention their migration from Sina Mutin Malaka or "Chinese White Malacca" (part of Indianised Hindu-Buddhist Srivijaya empire) in ancient times.[7]
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Timor is mentioned in the 13th-century Chinese Zhu Fan Zhi, where it is called Ti-wu and is noted for its sandalwood. It is called Ti-men in the History of Song of 1345.

So what disrupted it all? Take a guess:

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Beginning in the early sixteenth century, European colonialists—the Dutch in the island's west, and Portuguese in the east—would divide the island, isolating the East Timorese from the histories of the surrounding archipelago.[8]

This is our common enemy.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/east-timor/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 28, 2022, 08:13:34 pm
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/drc-chinese-australian-battle-control-093000599.html

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In the DRC, a Chinese-Australian battle for control of a massive untapped lithium lode

Best comment:

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No, don’t sell it to the white men who enslaved your country to poverty

It really is that simple.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/australia/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 29, 2022, 01:57:10 pm
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-west-rivalry-hits-pacific-093000801.html

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China's top diplomat met senior officials in the Solomons capital Honiara to hail the "spirit of South-South cooperation of mutual support and mutual assistance"

Instead of the messy concept of "Global South":

(https://sites.google.com/site/theglobalsouth/_/rsrc/1330102909252/home/800px-North_South_Divide_3.PNG?height=420&width=822)

why not just talk about cooperation between fellow former victims of Western colonialism?

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"The West is worried that once China's ties with the Pacific Islands are strong enough, when China asks to establish a military base in the region, these islands would say yes, and this would allow China to break through the so-called two island chains."

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/RlSX2r6sLge4NMBi.yoUDQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/l.byU..7eMjdQ.QV9E.KBQ--~B/aD0wO3c9MDthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/south_china_morning_post_us_228/aec47721d291c496c206ba09716a7a8a)

It would be a gesture of goodwill for the US to dismantle these itself.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 03, 2022, 08:11:49 pm
How colonized is North Korea?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kim-jong-un-congratulates-queen-023039845.html

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(Bloomberg) -- Kim Jong Un congratulated Queen Elizabeth II on the anniversary of her ascension to the throne, as the young North Korean leader sent his first public message to the 96-year-old monarch.

“I extend my congratulations to you and your people on the occasion of the National Day of your country, the official birthday of Your Majesty,” North Korea’s Foreign Ministry said of the note that was sent Thursday from its 38-year-old leader.

(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)

Perhaps Kim needs a history lesson about how it used to be OK to be "white" in Korea:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom%E2%80%93Korea_Treaty_of_1883

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Ministers from the United Kingdom to Korea were appointed in accordance with this treaty; and these diplomats were: Sir Harry Parkes, appointed in 1884; Sir John Walsham, appointed in 1885; Sir Nicholas O'Conor, in 1892; Sir Claude Maxwell, in 1896; John Jordan in 1898.[3]

The treaty remained in effect even after the Japanese protectorate was established in 1905,[4] and only came to and end in 1910 when Japan annexed Korea.

Under the treaty, Great Britain obtained extraterritorial rights in Korea and from 1883 to 1910, British subjects in Korea were not subject to the jurisdiction of Korean courts, but instead were tried or had civil cases brought against them in British consular courts

At least we can say that Windsor-worship is another thing that Kim and Trump have in common.....
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 10, 2022, 02:53:25 am
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-cambodia-break-ground-port-095428554.html

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Cambodian Defense Minister Tea Banh, Chinese Ambassador to Cambodia Wang Wentian and other officials donned white gloves before turning over shovels full of dirt to launch the official “modernization” of the Ream Naval Base, which will include a dry dock for ship repairs, an extended pier, a hospital, a workshop and a “reception building.”
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Tea Banh said the port project is expected to take two years to complete. He did not say how much it would cost, but China has given Cambodia hundreds of millions of dollars in grants in recent years for infrastructure projects.
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“China and Cambodia have become ironclad brothers, economical with words but generous in action, treating each other with all sincerity and standing side by side at challenging times,” he said, according to an English translation of his remarks provided by the Chinese delegation.
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“Some countries keep smearing legitimate exchanges and cooperation between China and Cambodia and arbitrarily impose unilateral sanctions on Cambodia under the false subterfuge of ‘democracy’ and ‘human rights,’ blatantly interfering in Cambodia’s internal affairs through ‘long-arm jurisdiction,’" he said. ”We firmly oppose all these misbehaviors."

Cambodia and China not only established ties predating the colonial era:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodia%E2%80%93China_relations#History

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Cambodia first made contact with China as early as 1421 AD during the final years of the Khmer Empire when Ponhea Yat dispatched a minister to establish formal diplomatic ties.[4]

but also share a former Western colonial oppressor:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_protectorate_of_Cambodia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_concessions_in_Tianjin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_French_Concession

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leased_Territory_of_Guangzhouwan

Title: Re: Iran
Post by: guest78 on June 11, 2022, 10:23:40 pm
Iran, Venezuela sign 20-year cooperation plan during Maduro visit
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Iran and Venezuela have signed a 20-year cooperation agreement. President Nicolas Maduro's trip to Iran coincides with the Summit of the Americas, which he was not invited to attend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0V3OZjARN0
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 21, 2022, 10:10:52 pm
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-seen-better-eu-completing-093000539.html

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China holds a substantial lead over the EU concerning perceptions about decision-making and timely completion of projects in Africa, according to a survey about the activities of Europe and China on the continent.
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China scores much higher than the EU on what the survey respondents consider Africa's priority needs - physical infrastructure, speedy results and non-interference in internal political affairs.
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"To put it simply: A road completed in record time by the Chinese is a value in the perception of Africans and more concrete than abstract European projects to promote democracy, human rights or sustainability," Schott said.

China has been accused of putting developing countries into "debt traps" by offering unsustainable loans for BRI projects, which can then be leveraged for political influence or concessions of geostrategic value to China. This contention has, however, been sharply disputed.

Last week, China's foreign ministry said, "the so-called 'Chinese debt trap' is pure disinformation and a narrative trap created by those who do not hope to see China-Africa cooperation pick up speed".
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 23, 2022, 07:17:08 pm
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-sends-food-aid-drought-093000921.html

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Wu Peng, director general of the Chinese foreign ministry's African affairs department, on Wednesday said Beijing was speeding up efforts to provide emergency aid to help Horn of Africa countries deal with the severe drought.
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Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi promised emergency food aid to Somalia, Eritrea, Ethiopia and Djibouti early this year. On Wednesday, Wu said the first shipments were on the way. "Glad to know that the first batch of food aid to Ethiopia and Djibouti has been shipped out and those to Somalia and Eritrea are ready for shipment," he tweeted.
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Nazanine Moshiri, International Crisis Group's senior analyst for climate and security in Africa, said the situation in the Horn of Africa was dire.

"More than 18 million people are suffering extreme hunger in Ethiopia, Somalia and Kenya. In Somalia, more than 200,000 people are facing famine. At least a thousand children have died - those are the cases we know about - millions more are severely malnourished," Moshiri said.

Relying on food aid is not a long-term solution. The only true solution is to emigrate to the EU!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/

Food aid is good to the extent that it keeps more people alive long enough to emigrate. It is bad to the extent that it reduces their incentive to emigrate. But the latter is the fault of the locals, not of those supplying food aid.

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Zhao said that as a developing country, China had no obligation to provide official development assistance. However, he said China "has been actively participating in international development cooperation, providing development resources to UN development agencies, including food and agriculture agencies, and making positive contributions to global food security".

"China has provided more funding, sent more experts and undertaken more projects under the framework of the Food and Agriculture Organization's South-South Cooperation Programme than any other developing country," Zhao added.

Thank you, China! (And reminder: Russia is not part of the Global South.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Ethiopia_relations#History

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Ethiopian expert Richard Pankhurst is certain that by the Tang dynasty (618–907) "the Chinese were acquainted with at least part of the Horn of Africa and were trading indirectly if not directly with the Somali coast."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Somalia_relations#History

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Relations between Somalia and China long predate the Middle Ages. Through trade, the peoples of both areas established good relations. Giraffes, zebras and incense were exported to the Ming Empire of China, which established Somali merchants as leaders in the commerce between Asia and Africa,[3] and in the process influenced the Chinese language with the Somali language and vice versa.

Now is the time to revive the friendships between the ancient civilizations:

(https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/3wQYNWDqKNR9Wx5-lrlbRBl7bXg=/480x480/smart/filters:no_upscale()/IndianOceanTrade-56a042475f9b58eba4af9165.jpg)

Again, note that Russia is not even on the map! In fact, Russia didn't even exist back then! This is what we need to get back to.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 25, 2022, 12:13:03 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2BQdj7Eows

The most important part is at 0:29:

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China funded the link that was needed after nearby white-controlled territories cut earlier routes.

NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.

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Thailand here. Everywhere where Chinese immigrants came, they worked hard, positive, and mingled with the local people ona basis of equality. Chinese immigrants means all the best for the country.
And when westerners came, they seldom mixed with the locals, never blended in but stayed seperated and didntadopt the countrty.

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China also helped them in liberating from the British Colonial rule. That's the reason the then British ruled Countries like Zimbabwe, South Africa etc blocked Zambia from exporting their products and they were forced to built alternative route  bypassing British occupied territories with the help of China.

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It's true ..That's why Zambians can't forget Chinese despite repeated western propaganda and smearing. When Zambians wanted to fight for independence they asked help from around the world but no one didn't came forward and Chinese supported them with weapons, training and even sent soldiers to drive out the British.

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West is still in colonial and missionaries mood.

(https://previews.123rf.com/images/argus456/argus4561605/argus456160514671/56717257-zambia-flag-combined-with-china-flag.jpg)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest30 on August 25, 2022, 02:27:14 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2BQdj7Eows

The most important part is at 0:29:

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China funded the link that was needed after nearby white-controlled territories cut earlier routes.

NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.

Woke comments:

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Thailand here. Everywhere where Chinese immigrants came, they worked hard, positive, and mingled with the local people ona basis of equality. Chinese immigrants means all the best for the country.
And when westerners came, they seldom mixed with the locals, never blended in but stayed seperated and didntadopt the countrty.

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China also helped them in liberating from the British Colonial rule. That's the reason the then British ruled Countries like Zimbabwe, South Africa etc blocked Zambia from exporting their products and they were forced to built alternative route  bypassing British occupied territories with the help of China.

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It's true ..That's why Zambians can't forget Chinese despite repeated western propaganda and smearing. When Zambians wanted to fight for independence they asked help from around the world but no one didn't came forward and Chinese supported them with weapons, training and even sent soldiers to drive out the British.

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West is still in colonial and missionaries mood.

(https://previews.123rf.com/images/argus456/argus4561605/argus456160514671/56717257-zambia-flag-combined-with-china-flag.jpg)

The mainland Chinese people still good with their socialist doctrine rather than the diaspora "Westerner Chinese" people who remain Westernized. So, the Chinese so-called "debt-trap" merely the Western propaganda to cover up their losses of power. And the tragedy of what happen on Congolese people which commited by the Chinese worker are not part the official doctrine of Autocratic China and just the worker's lack of disciplinal competence
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 25, 2022, 03:42:36 pm
More good moves:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/solomon-islands-threatens-ban-journalists-041521338.html

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(Bloomberg) -- The Solomon Islands government threatened to ban “disrespectful and demeaning” journalists from entering in response to an Australian documentary that alleged widespread Beijing influence in the Pacific country.

A spokesperson for Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare accused the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) of promoting “racism and racial stereotyping” in a lengthy statement published Wednesday, and warned the government would “ensure that racial practices are eliminated from the Solomon Islands.”

“Such organizations or journalist who possess such qualities will not be allowed to enter Solomon Islands and other Pacific Islands nations,” Sogavare’s spokesperson said in the statement.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-waived-debt-17-african-120100123.html

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China, Africa’s largest bilateral lender, waived debt owed by 17 countries in the continent for 23 interest-free loans that were due in 2021.
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Specifics of the announced relief are not known as the beneficiaries and amount were not disclosed. China canceled debt due to interest-free loans worth $113.8 million that matured in 2020 for 15 African countries including Botswana, Burundi, Rwanda, Cameroon, the DRC, and Mozambique.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest30 on August 27, 2022, 07:35:32 am
@90sRetroFan

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-waived-debt-17-african-120100123.html

China, Africa’s largest bilateral lender, waived debt owed by 17 countries in the continent for 23 interest-free loans that were due in 2021.
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Specifics of the announced relief are not known as the beneficiaries and amount were not disclosed. China canceled debt due to interest-free loans worth $113.8 million that matured in 2020 for 15 African countries including Botswana, Burundi, Rwanda, Cameroon, the DRC, and Mozambique.

Maybe the hatreds of my people towards China because of Western anti-China propaganda which oftenly spread around TV news. It was did for cover up their foreign policy of trapping the "non-Western underdeveloped" nations with their economic debt trap assisted with IMF (International Monetary Fund) organization
Title: This East Bay city will be first to allow an Indigenous group the exclusive right to use city land
Post by: guest78 on September 10, 2022, 11:06:16 pm
Oakland leading the way!

This East Bay city will be first to allow an Indigenous group the exclusive right to use city land
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A trail near Sequoia Point in Joaquin Miller Park in Oakland. Oakland leaders are planning to return about five acres of city land to an indigenous group in an effort to restore reparations. The land is at Sequoia Point in Joaquin Miller Park.

Oakland leaders plan to allow an Indigenous group the right to exclusively use about five acres of city land, the first city in California to use municipal property as reparations for European settlers stealing Native American territories.

Oakland leaders plan to allow an Indigenous group the right to exclusively use about 5 acres of city land, the first city in California to use municipal property as reparations for European settlers stealing Native American territories.

Mayor Libby Schaaf and the Sogorea Te’ Land Trust, an Indigenous and female-led nonprofit, announced Thursday that the city will grant an easement for Sequoia Point to the land trust and the Confederated Villages of Lisjan, which is the East Bay Ohlone tribe. The Point sits above the Sequoia Bayview Trail, one of the most popular trails in Joaquin Miller Park.

Oakland is creating a cultural easement at Sequoia Point, a legal arrangement that allows the city to transfer the right to use the land for cultural purposes, including ceremonial traditions, native habitat restoration and education activities. While the city retains the title to the property, the land trust has almost all of the rights of an owner, although the city can go on the property in case of an emergency.
Entire article: https://www.sfchronicle.com/eastbay/article/indigenous-land-reparations-17426036.php
Title: Signal To Russia? Xi Jinping Talks Kazakh Sovereignty, Opposes "Interference" Before Meeting Putin
Post by: guest78 on September 15, 2022, 09:16:12 pm
Signal To Russia? Xi Jinping Talks Kazakh Sovereignty, Opposes "Interference" Before Meeting Putin
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Chinese President Xi Jinping arrived in Kazakhstan for a state visit on September 14, his first known trip abroad since 2020. Xi was welcomed by his Kazakh counterpart Kassym-Jomart Tokayev upon his arrival in Nur-Sultan. Beijing's firm statement of intent came just before Xi met Russian President Putin on the sidelines of the SCO summit in Uzbekistan. On the other hand, Kazakhstan sees Xi’s first abroad trip to their country as a great signal of security in Central Asia.
#Kazakhstan #Tokayev #Putin #China #XiJinping #WorldNews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK4ovatvjwM

Reminder:
Kazakhstan emancipates itself from Russian influence | Eastern Express | TVP World
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Kazakh President Kasym Zhomart Tokayev announced that early presidential elections will be held in the coming months, and early parliamentary elections slated for early 2023.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiUaX44ztVQ
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 17, 2022, 02:49:40 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUOAEDq6-lA

We are not alone after all!

https://southfront.org/chinese-anti-russian-activists-work-against-beijings-interests/

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Sino-Russian bilateral cooperation appears to increase as the West tries to “isolate” Russia with its coercive measures.

However, some dissident forces in China want to change this scenario. Chinese officials, politicians and businessmen have been demanding changes in Beijing’s stance, urging the country to adopt sanctions against Russia and condemn the special military operation in Ukraine.
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Among academics, experts and journalists, anti-Russian engagement is also growing in China. Some authors in the country hold skeptical views about Sino-Russian cooperation and believe that Beijing should move away from Moscow in order to avoid being sanctioned by the West. This is the case, for example, of Hu Wei, vice-chairman of the Public Policy Research Center of the Counselor’s Office of the State Council, who recently published the article “Russian-Ukrainian War and China’s Choice”

The following video speculates in particular:

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"To cross the nuclear threshold, even with a small nuclear weapon, I think would turn even China against President Putin and Russia."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORpqeFqGqDU

So let's hope Russia uses a nuke soon!
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 18, 2022, 06:18:19 pm
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-signs-major-railroad-deal-150000455.html

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China Signs Major Railroad Deal With Uzbekistan And Kyrgyzstan, Bypassing Russia

This is how to do it!

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The three governments signed the agreement on September 14 on the sidelines of a summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in Uzbekistan.
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The cost estimate is conservative compared to previous estimates of double that for a railroad that will pass through challenging mountainous terrain requiring a series of tunnels – reportedly 90 of them – to be built.

China will also need to build 160 kilometers of track to feed into the new line, according to The Economist.

Note:

(https://chinapower.csis.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/China-v-Russia-Trade-in-Central-Asia.png)
Title: Singapore, the Enemy of Islam
Post by: antihellenistic on September 26, 2022, 08:46:41 pm
While "Australia" try to democratize and westernize the "Pacific" peoples and the Papuans. A nation which controlled by Eurocentrist Chinese people still help and work together with them. See this information from Singapore Ministry of Foreign Affairs :

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Singapore and Australia share longstanding and multifaceted relations. Australia was among the first countries to recognise our independence.

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Singapore and Australia enjoy close defence ties, founded on substantive interactions and common perspectives on many issues. The Singapore Armed Forces trains in Australia, both unilaterally and bilaterally with the Australian Defence Force. In March 2020, Singapore and Australia signed the Treaty on Military Training and Training Area Development, a key deliverable of the CSP.  Building on 30 years of Singapore’s training in Australia, the Treaty underpins the A$2.25 billion investment to jointly develop military training areas, as well as advanced training facilities in Central and North Queensland, which will benefit both armed forces and deepen defence cooperation. Singapore and Australia also cooperate closely in multilateral forums such as the Five Power Defence Arrangements and the ASEAN Defence Ministers’ Meeting-Plus.

2020

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...the Leaders witnessed the signing of the Treaty on Military Training and Training Area Development and seven MOUs under the ambit of the Digital Economy Agreement.[/b]

Source : https://www.mfa.gov.sg/SINGAPORES-FOREIGN-POLICY/Countries-and-Regions/Oceania/Australia (Singapore's Foreign Policy on Oceania - Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Accessed on 26th September 2022)

Singapore also more close to the "New Zealand" rather than, the Papua New Guinea for example :

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Defence is also a key pillar of bilateral relations. In addition to being members of the Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA), Singapore’s and New Zealand’s armed forces conduct regular bilateral training. Singapore’s and New Zealand’s troops have partnered each other in missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. New Zealand also hosts the Singapore Armed Forces for unilateral military training in New Zealand, and both countries work well together at multilateral security fora.

Source : https://www.mfa.gov.sg/SINGAPORES-FOREIGN-POLICY/Countries-and-Regions/Oceania/New-Zealand (Singapore's Foreign Policy on Oceania - Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Accessed on 26th September 2022)

Even Singapore more hostile to the muslims rather than to the westerners. See this information :

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Jakarta. Indonesia’s famous Muslim cleric Abdul Somad was denied entry at a Singapore port as he arrived with his family for a vacation from nearby Batam Island on Monday.

Somad said Singaporean authorities didn’t provide any specific reason why he was refused entry.

Source : https://jakartaglobe.id/news/controversial-cleric-abdul-somad-denied-entry-to-singapore (Controversial Cleric Abdul Somad Denied Entry to Singapore - Jakarta Globe. Accessed on 27th September 2022)
Title: Re: Singapore, the Enemy of Islam
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 26, 2022, 11:17:45 pm
You should try to promote hostility towards Australia among Singaporeans. Remind them of Singaporean history as a fellow victim of Western colonization!

We have documented some positive recent developments in Singapore:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/legal-decolonization/msg15255/#msg15255

Singapore retains significant non-Western roots which can be worked with, as was done in fantasy fiction during the Counterculture era which was of very high quality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr6Y_z7RK2s
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: antihellenistic on September 27, 2022, 12:23:44 am
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You should try to promote hostility towards Australia among Singaporeans. Remind them of Singaporean history as a fellow victim of Western colonization!

Today, even they benefitted economically from cooperation with the "United States" too. 1.000+ companies from her are on Singapore. Therefore hardly Singapore to be more close to the victim of western colonialism. Because it not benefit them economically. Singapore need things more on economy, seeing their lack of resources and sources of revenue on their homeland. What about that?
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 27, 2022, 12:44:02 am
Our entire geopolitical strategy is based on changing the US to view itself as a victim of Western colonization:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/demographic-blueshift/

US links to Singapore will become our assets provided we succeed in this.
Title: Re: True Left Breakthrough: Ahimsa
Post by: antihellenistic on October 04, 2022, 12:10:38 am
What about if we use the win-win solution to beat the westerners. It proven work until now. See this information :

Source : China-U.S. rivalry in Southeast Asia - CGTN (15th July 2022)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUJjJCddunM

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(Minute 07 : 22 until 07 : 44)

"...I think the focus of ASEAN nation now is trying to make people at the front of its economic growth. Which is I think for now China wins in this case, right? You see how the U.S. for example, they're trying to assert more cooperation socially and in development sector but still unclear. So ASEAN nation in this case are closer on China on this side." - Noto Sueneto, G20 Foreign Policy Analyst and Senior Manager of The Business 20 Indonesia

(Minute 08 : 06 until 08 : 58)

"...I think is it true that ASEAN is more skewed toward China? Is it true that ASEAN or Malaysia is more friendlier to China compared to United States? I think yes. It is true because of a win-win situation offered by China. Like the example of BRI, the Belt Road Initiative for example. It's not only China will gain the benefit but also Malaysia gains a lot of benefit from BRI. So another thing is that mutual trust is very-very critical, you know very important here. And also a win-win situation. ... ASEAN and Malaysia included Indonesia, included Thailand in this case are more skewed, more friendlier towards China in this case" - Azmi Hassan, Malaysian Political Analyst




Source : How China is building Southeast Asia - Behind Asia (January 13th 2022)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaX5tVUgLZc


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(Minute 01 : 22 until 01 : 53)

This vision of China involves the integration of the ASEAN states into the program by creating projects that would connect the maritime states with the mainland, bypassing the treacherous Straits of Malacca route with state-of-the-art transportation infrastructures that could sustain the expected volume of trade. And while the BRI alone has seen a massive invesment drive, the Chinese invesments have been in the region for quite some time already. These developments have in the past years have given vast aid and helped change economic outlooks for the region, and even still it has the potential to further upgrade the outlook of the continent.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 04, 2022, 12:40:38 am
The main problem is that Xi wants to do win-win with everyone, including Western countries (even those which colonized China in the past!). What I am hoping for is when Xi eventually retires or dies, his successor will be ideologically anti-Western, and hence do win-win with everyone except Western countries. (Hopefully by then the US will have been sufficiently de-Westernized that China can continue doing win-win with the US.)

While we are waiting, ASEAN should still cooperate with China, and if possible during this cooperation try to push China in the direction described above. ASEAN should express consistent displeasure whenever China tries to do win-win with Western countries (I do not mean the US), thus sending China the message that they cannot just keep doing win-win with everyone indefinitely, but must eventually choose which side they are on.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: Guess88 on October 25, 2022, 12:51:58 pm
One thing is for certain, Japan would most likely be willing to help China in these aims at this point....

Not Taiwan, Xi Jinping’s China May Move To Grab Eastern Russia From A Weak Putin
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While much of the world’s attention remains on Ukraine, China’s Xi Jinping cemented his position in Beijing for a third term. The end of 20th National Congress of Chinese Communist Party saw Xi emerge as the strongest leader since Mao Zedong. In the runup to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, China and Russia declared a friendship “without limits”. However, the two countries have fought despite signing friendship treaties in the past. There has been speculation that the presence of ethnic Chinese Russians in the Far East could encourage Beijing to press north.
#China #Russia #Ukraine #RussianFarEast #Vladivostok #Putin #XiJinping #WorldNews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANZPQ9fhRXM
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 25, 2022, 02:00:27 pm
This of course would be the strategically sensible as well as morally satisfying move, and the one which we have been suggesting for some time now:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/msg1207/?topicseen#msg1207

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg12099/#msg12099

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg15051/#msg15051

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg15414/#msg15414

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/msg10059/#msg10059

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/msg11611/#msg11611

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/msg12241/#msg12241

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg15706/#msg15706

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg15792/#msg15792

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg15932/#msg15932

It is pleasing to me that so many more people now see this (comments from your video):

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China should take this opportunity to back Outer Manchuria with a weaken Russia, thanks to Putin.  Tsar Russia, took Outer Manchuria and Tuva from a weaken then Qing Dynasty (Treaty of Aigun 1853), if Xi can pull this off he will be for certain a National Hero, there is no gain by attacking ones own in Taiwan. Vladivostok is Hǎishēnwǎi (海參崴) prior to Russian occupation.

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looking forward to that move by China

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Yes, Haishenwai, the world recognizes you! Vladivostok no more!

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Russia tries to take Ukraine.  Russia fails and losses its own territory.  Ironical and karma combined. The rest of the world will ignore this as it happens to Russia.

But is Xi sensible, let alone moral? Does Xi's mind work anything like ours? I fear that Xi's Eurocentrism is preventing him from seeing what to us may be obvious.

"One thing is for certain, Japan would most likely be willing to help China in these aims at this point...."

I am not certain about this either. Again, it is the move that makes by far the most sense, as another comment from your video acknowledges:

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China's greatest ally in this would be Japan. If they were to promise the return of islands taken from Japan at the end of WW2, then Japan would like as not support the Chinese expansion North into Russia.

but Eurocentrists do not care about making sense, and the LDP is the party of Eurocentrism:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/japan-to-export-jets-missiles-to-12-nations-bid-to-counter-belligerent-china-in-/msg13698/#msg13698

What we need is a leftist victory in Japan:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/japan-to-export-jets-missiles-to-12-nations-bid-to-counter-belligerent-china-in-/msg14467/#msg14467
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 25, 2022, 10:32:06 pm
What I like to see:

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/india-abstains-from-anti-iran-un-vote-454698

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India joined other major emerging countries in abstaining from a West-led resolution at the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) to investigate the crackdown on protesters in Iran.
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India joined Indonesia, Brazil, Malaysia, Nigeria, the UAE and Kazakhstan in abstaining from the resolution at the UNHRC
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Iran backed India during the height of insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir in 1994 by opposing an OIC-sponsored resolution at the UNHRC in the 90s.
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China, Pakistan, Armenia, Eritrea, Cuba and Venezuela sided completely with Iran by voting against the resolution.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest78 on December 18, 2022, 06:20:09 pm
Why is Africa turning away from the United States? | The Bottom Line
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Officials in the United States look upon Africans as people “in need of help” or people who “need to be told what to do”, and this is destroying relations between Africa and Washington, according to the former African Union representative to the US, Arikana Chihombori-Quao.

“The US needs to call a timeout and treat Africans with respect,” Chihombori told host Steve Clemons, adding that the US-Africa Leaders Summit hosted by the White House this week “will fail unless Americans see Africans as equals".

Chihombori-Quao argues that pan-African unity is the only path for the continent to be less dependent on outside powers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfLxnIqi4Uc
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 03, 2023, 09:17:06 pm
If only this were true:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-gradually-being-overtaken-neighboring-124400809.html

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According to Danilov, Russia may have new “owners” in the future. However, he refused to specify whether the country he was referring to was China.

But Eurocentrist Xi refuses to do what is strategically sensible as well as morally satisfying, and instead does what is Eurocentrist:

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Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi confirmed that Beijing would “deepen strategic mutual trust and mutually beneficial cooperation” with Russia.

The comments show that literally everyone else by now can see the correct move. The commenters' common mistake, however, is to assume that Eurocentrist Xi can see it too, when in fact he truly cannot because his Eurocentrism is blinding him:

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If Russia were to somehow fall apart, Xi and the CCP would definitely try to acquire landmass for the sake of resources it needs.

That's what Xi should do. But he will not do it.

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well yeah... china is absolutely going to take over eastern russia at the very least. russia is obviously going to be powerless to stop them without a nuclear exchange.

That's what China should do, which is not to be confused for what it will actually do under Xi.

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Gaining political control over Russia is a smart goal for China given it's natural resources and Putin is making it possible.

Yes, it is a smart goal for China. But Xi is not smart.

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Russia lost its best client, the EU, and now it will have to fight so that China does not take advantage of the situation and conquer Russia.

Except Russia will not need to fight, precisely because Xi is too Eurocentrist to take advantage of the situation and conquer Russia.

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The world already knows that China has Russia in its hand. They could literally walk across the border and take Russia by sheer numbers and there wouldn't be squat Putin could do to stop them.

Yes, but they won't walk across the border so long as Xi is deciding things.

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Historically, there are large parts of Russia that once belonged to China and given that Putin has already stated that that's one of the reasons he's invaded Ukraine, the Chinese would be entitled to use the same excuse.

Yes, but Xi is not the type of person who will bring this up.

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China has 1.4 billion people, and Russia only has 164 million people.  Siberia has only 43 million people, and Russia showed China how they can take Siberia without firing a shot.  China is keeping Russia afloat and out of bankruptcy, so China could turn on Russia and take Siberia at any time.

It could, but it won't with Xi in charge.

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I have been saying this since the start of the war.  When China invades Siberia, the world will not come to Russia's aid

So have I! But Xi will not make the move in the first place.

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China should stop worrying about Taiwan and the South Sea.

China could invade and annex The Far Eastern Federal District.  The area has less than 9 million people.   It is too isolated from Moscow to defend.

China would not have to worry about the United States Navy.

This is what I have been saying! But Xi lacks the will to do it.

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China, Siberia is yours. Rightfully yours. How dare Russia take it from you. Forget that Russians live there.In fact, if you secretly send some men into Siberia, and then they are attacked and persecuted, you can rightfully go into Siberia with the purpose of protecting the Chinese-speaking people.

Exactly! But Xi lacks the will to do anything like that.

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Look back in history, before 1860 Vladivostok (Chinese name Haishenwai/ ( 永明城; Yǒngmíngchéng ) belonged to China.

Yes, but Xi doesn't care!

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The russian had annexed a lot of land from the Qing dynasty under questionable means, the whole Siberia niryh Manchuria and lands in central asia........

Yes, but Xi doesn't care!

Etc. etc.

I sincerely wish I turn out to be wrong about this and the China optimists turn out to be correct. But.....
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: SirGalahad on January 03, 2023, 11:13:12 pm
@90sRetroFan I suspect that the friendship between China and Russia has made the Chinese government way too soft to seriously consider reclaiming territory from Russia. These are the kinds of images that are gaining traction on Chinese social media:

(https://i.redd.it/ek1dgkjzvn9a1.jpg)

From what I can gather, pro-CCP people legitimately believe that Russia is part of the anti-western axis, despite the fact that people like Putin openly cozy up with politicians like Viktor Orban, Matteo Salvini, and Marine Le Pen. The way they portray Russia in a heroic light is just bizarre, because it's clearly not going to be the leftist haven that pro-CCP individuals want China to be. I would understand if they simply saw Russia as the lesser of two evils and therefore saw Russia as a much better ally than the US in its current state, but the way these sorts of people talk about and portray Russia in their propaganda seems to hint at much more than that. Maybe I'm wrong though, and the relationship really is just a begrudging one out of the pro-CCP crowd's (justified) hatred for the West. If there's anyone viewing this that happens to be from China or support China's current ambitions or worldview, you're free to elaborate on the pro-CCP non-Aryanist position on Russia
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 04, 2023, 12:36:19 am
"pro-CCP people legitimately believe that Russia is part of the anti-western axis, despite the fact that people like Putin openly cozy up with politicians like Viktor Orban, Matteo Salvini, and Marine Le Pen."

They use the term "Western" to mean Counterculture. Putin, Orban, Salvini and Le Pen are all anti-Counterculture. It is that simple.

"The way they portray Russia in a heroic light is just bizarre, because it's clearly not going to be the leftist haven that pro-CCP individuals want China to be."

They don't want China to be leftist - that's the point! Remember this piece of ****?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg16164/#msg16164

"the way these sorts of people talk about and portray Russia in their propaganda seems to hint at much more than that. Maybe I'm wrong"

You are not wrong. They see Russia as the defenders of actual Western civilization (which they call "civilization") against the US which they believe represents Counterculture values (which they call "Western"). They, in their terminology, consider "New China" to be in need of "civilization", which means rejecting "Western" influences. What they are actually doing, in our terminology, is Westernizing by rejecting Counterculture influences.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: SirGalahad on January 04, 2023, 01:00:40 am
Pretty much all of the pro-CCP individuals I've met online have expressed distaste for Israel and denounced "American" racism (so they at least have the correct position on tribalism, even if they have a warped position on America itself), so I'd classify such people as more false left than right wing. I'm not surprised that there are people within the CCP like the man that you linked in your comment who are obviously crypto-rightists, but I feel like ambivalence and even support towards Russia is more common in false left circles than you would expect. Black Hammer, a small group that we've mentioned positively on both the forums and on the blog, go even further than pro-CCP Marxists by not just seeing Russia as an ally, but explicitly supporting Russia's ambitions including its takeover of Ukraine. Black Hammer members aren't even the only people I've seen online who are like that. It's kind of a running theme within fringe communist circles. I have no doubt that there are communists who hate the ones currently licking Russia's boot, but for some odd reason, fetishization of Russia isn't just a thing in rightist circles.

TLDR: I disagree that these types would claim to like Viktor Orban, Matteo Salvini, and Marine Le Pen. That's not my impression at all from lurking in pro-CCP circles like r/Sino and r/NewsWithJingjing
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on January 04, 2023, 01:19:31 am
Yes. You are correct that this is mostly a False Left attitude. I would go so far as to say that the individual mentioned in the post is also a False Leftist, as he is a machinist, and we know "non-White" False Leftists are machinists.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: SirGalahad on January 04, 2023, 01:22:27 am
An addendum: I do agree with 90sRetroFan though, that a significant chunk of these pro-CCP false leftists will shift over to straight up rightism within the next few decades BECAUSE of, as is referenced in your link, what Wang Huning calls the Black Challenge. These false leftists, who usually go so far as to claim to be radical leftists, praise China for its innovation and the economic prosperity that they believe it is just starting to enjoy because of the CCP's actions. They believe that in these respects, it will continue to surpass the US. If they want to keep this view on China while being intellectually honest, they will have to end up dropping their anti-racist stance. As time passes, it'll become harder and harder for a lot of them to believe that non-westerners, and in particular other non-whites, are as capable of managing the kind of civilization they desire (a western one, even if they refuse to call it that). Most of these people are BLM supporters for now, but there will very likely be a Wang Huning-style divergence where a lot of them give up on "black" Americans and "black" people as a whole, leaving them to the wolves
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 04, 2023, 03:30:32 am
"Black Hammer, a small group that we've mentioned positively on both the forums and on the blog, go even further than pro-CCP Marxists by not just seeing Russia as an ally, but explicitly supporting Russia's ambitions including its takeover of Ukraine."

My earlier critique of Black Hammer can be found here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/volunteer/black-hammer/msg6628/#msg6628

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/volunteer/black-hammer/msg6656/#msg6656

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This is their worldview:

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    The colonizers have already lost the war of ideas—Russia, Iran, China, and Colonized Nations all grow more united by the day. The influence of amerikkkan empire is slipping and its pathetic attempts to use the media as a mouthpiece to soften our revolutionary fire is doomed to fail.

Are they unaware that Russia was a Western colonial power (not to mention the one which has given back less of its stolen land than any other Western colonial power following WWII)?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/

America, on the other hand, can easily be reinterpreted as a victim of colonialism, which is already occurring as we speak, with Columbus Day being discarded in favour of Indigenous People's Day, etc.. America's true geopolitical destiny is to sincerely replace Russia's current insincere position as the ally of China and Iran. This is what Black Hammer as a US-based group should be working towards, not tearing down America out of petty spite (as Dugin wants to see happen).

Also recall:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/volunteer/black-hammer/msg6691/#msg6691
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: SirGalahad on January 04, 2023, 05:43:43 am
Yeah, I remember this conversation. I just mentioned Black Hammer because it’s almost a perfect example of the kinds of people I was referring to in my earlier comments. They definitely do not like the figureheads that Putin associates with, but needlessly tie themselves in knots to justify Duginist kowtowing anyways
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 11, 2023, 09:25:04 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-cuts-deal-taliban-extract-151204470.html

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The Taliban is cutting its first major energy extractions agreement since taking control of Afghanistan in 2021, agreeing to a 25-year pact with a Chinese company to drill for oil in the country's Amu Darya basin.

"The Amu Darya oil contract is an important project between China and Afghanistan," Wang Yu, the Chinese ambassador to Afghanistan, said at a press conference in Kabul, according to a BBC report last week.

Congratulations! Let's rebuild the ancient friendship!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93China_relations#History_(Han_to_Qing)

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In antiquity, the region that is now Afghanistan was known for its devotion to Buddhism, which had been founded in India in the 5th century BC. Chinese records from the Han dynasty refer to Kabul as "Kao-fu", which is described as a wealthy cite located in the Hindu Kush mountains on a strategic location on the trade routes linking Central Asia to India.[5] A Buddhist monk from what is now Afghanistan arrived in China in 2 BC and converted the first Chinese to Buddhism.[5] Afghanistan was often visited by Chinese Buddhist pilgrims on their way to India in antiquity, and Buddhist sites such as Balkh and the Buddhas of Bamyan attracted many Chinese visitors.[5] Chinese records credit craftsmen from Afghanistan with producing the first glass in China between 424 and 428 AD, through archaeological evidence suggests that glass was being produced earlier in China.[5]
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Religions such as Nestorian Christianity first reached China in the Tang dynasty via Afghanistan, to be followed later by Islam.[6]

The Church of the East Christians like the Bactrian Priest Yisi of Balkh helped the Tang dynasty general Guo Ziyi militarily crush the Sogdian-Turk led An Lushan rebellion, with Yisi personally acting as a military commander and Yisi and the Church of the East were rewarded by the Tang dynasty with titles and positions as described in the Xi'an Stele.[12][13][14][15][16]

Alliance between the ancient civilizations always comes back to anti-Turanism!

For those who don't know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Lushan_Rebellion

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An Lushan was a general of uncertain birth origins, but thought to have been adopted by a Sogdian father and Göktürk mother of the Ashina tribe.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashina_tribe

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According to some researchers (Duan, Xue, Tang, and Lung) the Ashina tribe were descended from the Tiele confederation,[19][20][21][22][23] who were likewise associated with the Xiongnu.[24][25]
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According to the Book of Zhou and History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was related to the "Yenisei Kyrgyz",[68][69][d][e] who resided near the Pamir mountains and are described as possessing red hair and blue eyes in the New Book of Tang (Xin Tangshu 217b.6147), a description previously used to describe the Wusun.[28] However according to Lee & Kuang (2017), the Göktürks differed from the Qirghiz in their physiognomy and "no comparable depiction of the Kök Türks or Tiele is found in the official Chinese histories."[74] Lee & Kuang state that the most likely explanation for the West Eurasian physiognomy of the Yenisei Kirghiz is a high frequency of the Eurasian Indo-European haplogroup R1a-Z93.[75]

Muqan Qaghan, the third Qaghan of the First Turkic Khaganate, was described by Chinese authors as having an unusual appearance. He had eyes like "colored glazes",[76][77] he had a red complexion, and his face was wide.[78][79]
Title: Re: Turkey
Post by: guest78 on January 21, 2023, 07:46:58 pm
Far-right leader burns a copy of Quran outside Turkish embassy
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Türkiye has cancelled the Swedish Defence Minister's upcoming visit to Ankara following Swedish authorities giving permission for  a far-right political leader to burn a copy of the Quran, Islam's holy book, in front of the Turkish Embassy in Stockholm on Saturday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbPu5nehzY

Turkiye cancels Swedish defence minister’s visit over protest permit | Latest World News | WION
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Turkiye recently called off a visit by Sweden's defence minister over a planned demonstration by a right-wing extremist in Stockholm. Watch video to know more.

#turkiye #sweden #boycott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_YY_G681g
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on January 21, 2023, 08:08:48 pm
https://twitter.com/dharma__vijaya/status/1607590500613378048
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In part, Chinese interaction with India in the last 2 centuries was though Indians who were British stooges only. Remember Tatas started by selling opium to China.

But Chinese stupidly hold on to 2 centuries old memory & forget 2 millennia old ones when India was Tianzhu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianzhu_(India)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest98 on January 22, 2023, 03:27:40 pm
The dumbass homo hubris rasmus paludan needs to be given a hard beating.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 23, 2023, 09:14:14 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Qp44INi9c

Paludan has behaved similarly in Denmark. Why not denounce Denmark also?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/denmark/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest98 on January 24, 2023, 01:16:20 pm
F_ck Denmark too, these Scandinavian degenerate racists are proving themselves unworthy of existing in the coming new age. If they don't change their behaviour soon they will have to be totally invaded and destroyed. God willing we will be victorious against the Jews-"whites".
Title: Re: Operation Gaddafi
Post by: guest98 on February 02, 2023, 01:57:33 pm
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/2/2/turkey-summons-norwegian-ambassador-over-protest-permission

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Police ban planned Quran burning protest in Norway

Oslo police Inspector Martin Strand says demonstration in Norwegian capital ‘can’t go ahead due to security concerns’.

Police in Norway have banned a planned protest including the burning of a copy of the Islamic holy book, the Quran, hours after the Turkish foreign ministry summoned the Norwegian ambassador to complain.

A group of protesters planned to burn a copy of the Quran outside the Turkish embassy in Oslo on Friday, police said.

“The police emphasise that burning the Quran is a legal political statement in Norway, but this event can’t go ahead due to security concerns,” Oslo police Inspector Martin Strand said in a statement on Thursday.



Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 15, 2023, 05:43:31 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1paKDmTazbc

China and Iran should build a new bloc that not only excludes Russia but indeed makes it its purpose to encircle and constrict Russia and wider Turandom.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 18, 2023, 06:14:21 pm
An encouraging sign:

https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20230218-israel-condemns-expulsion-of-its-diplomat-from-african-union-summit

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Israel on Saturday condemned the "severe" expulsion of a senior diplomat from the African Union summit, accusing arch-foe Iran of orchestrating the move with help from Algeria and South Africa.

A video circulating on social media shows guards escorting the Israeli foreign ministry's deputy director general for Africa, Sharon Bar-li, out of the AU assembly taking place in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa.

A spokesman for the Israeli foreign ministry described the incident as "severe," noting Bar-li was "an accredited observer with an entry tag", a claim denied by an AU official.

The ministry spokesman said it was "saddening to see the African Union taken hostage by a small number of extremist states like Algeria and South Africa, which are driven by hatred and controlled by Iran".
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Israel attained observer status at the AU in 2021 after decades of diplomatic efforts, drawing protest from powerful members including South Africa and Algeria, which argued that it flew in the face of AU statements supporting the Palestinians.

Last year, unease flared over the accreditation of Israel as an observer at the AU, with the Palestinians -- who also have an observer status at the body -- urging it to be withdrawn.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on February 20, 2023, 07:58:35 am
An addendum: I do agree with 90sRetroFan though, that a significant chunk of these pro-CCP false leftists will shift over to straight up rightism within the next few decades BECAUSE of, as is referenced in your link, what Wang Huning calls the Black Challenge. These false leftists, who usually go so far as to claim to be radical leftists, praise China for its innovation and the economic prosperity that they believe it is just starting to enjoy because of the CCP's actions. They believe that in these respects, it will continue to surpass the US. If they want to keep this view on China while being intellectually honest, they will have to end up dropping their anti-racist stance. As time passes, it'll become harder and harder for a lot of them to believe that non-westerners, and in particular other non-whites, are as capable of managing the kind of civilization they desire (a western one, even if they refuse to call it that). Most of these people are BLM supporters for now, but there will very likely be a Wang Huning-style divergence where a lot of them give up on "black" Americans and "black" people as a whole, leaving them to the wolves

I agree. But this rightism will be of the Enlightenment liberal flavor, rather than say, the outright racist (traditionalist) rightism that I have observed in countries such as India. Could have something to do with Gentile blood memory in the former versus Turanian blood memory in the latter.
Title: Re: Solidarity between fellow victims of colonialism
Post by: BankRun on March 11, 2023, 07:44:52 pm
South Africa downgrades diplomatic ties with ‘apartheid Israel’
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South Africa’s parliament has voted to downgrade its diplomatic relations with Israel.

This comes after years of strained relations due to Israel’s treatment of Palestinians.

Al Jazeera’s Fahmida Miller reports from Johannesburg, South Africa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7cqSr4jFAs
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 12, 2023, 03:46:53 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSS25jEr6go

20:49-21:27 echoes what I am worried about what this might lead to. It should be noted that China was not critical of the Abraham Accords (that involved UAE and Bahrain recognizing Israel):

https://www.mei.edu/publications/china-and-abraham-accords-peace-agreement

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A day after the agreement between Israel and the UAE was first made public, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian stated that Beijing was “pleased” to see the two countries taking steps to reduce tensions in the Middle East.[2]

thus are unlikely to try to stop any prospective Saudi recognition of Israel either. Yet if Saudi recognition of Israel goes ahead, then Iran's newly established relations with Saudi will mean Iran will be under pressure to recognize Israel also.

Additionally, I predict Israel will now step up support for the pro-democracy protestors in Iran to overthrow the current regime, which would then reset Iran's foreign relations. Thus even if the current regime sticks to its principle of not recognizing Israel, whatever manages to displace the current regime in Iran would surely recognize Israel at once.

The fundamental problem is that China's aim was never to unite Iran and Saudi against Israel, but to end conflict in the region generally (ie. including ending conflicts involving Israel) in the interests of increased prosperity for all (ie. including increased prosperity for Israel). If China had instead criticized the Abraham Accords from the beginning like we did, and then pitched this Iran-Saudi deal as a countermeasure to the Abraham Accords, that would have been a good move. But this is not what we have in reality. Thus I discourage over-optimism about this ideal.

Until China acquires a worldview based on moral dualism, it will continue to be incapable of formulating plans that Israel cannot rewire to its own ultimate advantage.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 31, 2023, 06:47:55 pm
Recall:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg12408/?topicseen#msg12408

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg14893/?topicseen#msg14893

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-as-viewed-by-westerners/msg15179/?topicseen#msg15179

Now:

https://apnews.com/article/vatican-indigenous-papal-bulls-pope-francis-062e39ce5f7594a81bb80d0417b3f902

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VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican on Thursday responded to Indigenous demands and formally repudiated the “Doctrine of Discovery,” the theories backed by 15th-century “papal bulls” that legitimized the colonial-era seizure of Native lands and form the basis of some property laws today.
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The statement, from the Vatican’s development and education offices, marked a historic recognition of the Vatican’s own complicity in colonial-era abuses committed by European powers.
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On Thursday, these Indigenous leaders welcomed the statement as a first good step, even though it didn’t address the rescinding of the bulls themselves and continued to take distance from acknowledging actual Vatican culpability in abuses. The statement said the papal documents had been “manipulated” for political purposes by competing colonial powers “to justify immoral acts against Indigenous peoples that were carried out, at times, without opposition from ecclesial authorities.”
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The statement was a response to decades of Indigenous demands for the Vatican to formally rescind the papal bulls that provided the Portuguese and Spanish kingdoms the religious backing to expand their territories in Africa and the Americas for the sake of spreading Christianity.

Those decrees underpin the “Doctrine of Discovery,” a legal concept coined in a 1823 U.S. Supreme Court decision that has come to be understood as meaning that ownership and sovereignty over land passed to Europeans because they “discovered” it.

It was cited as recently as a 2005 Supreme Court decision involving the Oneida Indian Nation written by the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
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Michelle Schenandoah of the Oneida Nation had called for the Vatican to rescind the papal bulls when she delivered the closing remarks of the First Nations delegation that met with Francis during a weeklong visit last year by Native groups from Canada. On Thursday, she called the Vatican statement “another step in the right direction,” but noted that it didn’t mention the rescinding of the bulls themselves.

“I think what this does is it really puts the responsibility on nation states such as the United States, to look at its use of the Doctrine of Discovery,” she said in a interview from Syracuse, New York, where she is a professor of Indigenous law at Syracuse University’s College of Law. “This goes beyond land. It really has created generation upon generation of genocidal policies directed towards Indigenous peoples. And I think that it’s time for these governments to take full accountability for their actions.”

From now on, anyone who still behaves as though the Doctrine of Discovery still applies should be treated no differently than how we have always advocated Israeli settlers be treated.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 05, 2023, 01:30:20 am
Good idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfw8rXvHJ5U
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 10, 2023, 06:15:59 pm
Pointing out that it's OK for sovereignty to be "white":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuKFmX-LmLc
Title: A new order in the Middle East? The ripple effects of Saudi-Iran rapprochement
Post by: 2ThaSun on April 19, 2023, 11:00:05 am
A new order in the Middle East? The ripple effects of Saudi-Iran rapprochement • FRANCE 24 English
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In Yemen, more than 900 prisoners were released this past week as momentum builds to end the nine-year conflict there. This is linked to the fact that the leadership in Saudi Arabia and Iran are talking to each other again. The two powers broke off relations seven years ago, impacting politics and conflict across the region. So now that diplomatic ties have been restored, what might change? We take a closer look and speak to Julien Barnes-Dacey, the Middle East Programme Director at the European Council on Foreign Relations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=373RxciJXMQ
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 01, 2023, 04:57:32 pm
How colonized is "South Africa"?

https://us.yahoo.com/news/south-africa-warns-putin-threat-142400739.html

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South Africa warns Putin of threat of arrest should he attend BRICS Summit in person
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"We have no option not to arrest Putin," a government official said. “If he comes here, we will have to arrest him.”

Last week, South African President Cyril Ramaphosa appointed a special government committee headed by the country's vice president to study the government's Vladimir Putin’s international arrest warrant, the newspaper reported.

This committee will not be able to find "any options that would allow Putin to come," the paper’s sources said. "The only option we have is for [Putin] to participate in the summit via Teams or Zoom from Moscow."

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Woke comments:

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They keep blowing the whistle before he shows up, don't tell him. Show some patience, invite putin and conduct a secret operation to detain him.

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Why warn him? Let hin show up then supriae him with a new shiny set of bracelets.

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Why warn him.. just do it

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Don't warn him... let him show up.

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the smart thing would be to encourage Putin to come. And, have the Navy SEALS waiting for him.
Title: Re: Identitarian movement
Post by: guest98 on May 27, 2023, 06:38:46 pm
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/1/france-criticised-at-un-over-police-violence-racism

It's OK for France to be "white".

France criticised at UN over police violence, racism
The UN’s Human Rights Council calls on France to reduce police violence and take steps to address racism.

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Paris was also called out for religious intolerance, attacks against migrants and racial profiling by several countries at the UN Council as members carried out France’s Universal Periodic Review (UPR) – a process all 193 UN countries must undergo every four years.

The US representative at the UN Council, Kelly Billingsley, said her country wanted Paris to “expand efforts to counter crimes and threats of violence motivated by religious hatred such as anti-Muslim hate, including cases of harassment, vandalism, and assault”.

Meanwhile, China urged France to “stop measures that violate rights of migrants” and Brazil and Japan highlighted the importance of stopping “racial profiling by security forces”.

Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 27, 2023, 06:45:45 pm
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The US representative at the UN Council, Kelly Billingsley, said her country wanted Paris to “expand efforts to counter crimes and threats of violence motivated by religious hatred such as anti-Muslim hate, including cases of harassment, vandalism, and assault”.

Meanwhile, China urged France to “stop measures that violate rights of migrants” and Brazil and Japan highlighted the importance of stopping “racial profiling by security forces”.

Isn't it nice to see four former victims of Western colonialism unite to condemn a former Western colonial power? This is what we want more of!
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 02, 2023, 11:45:52 pm
Encouraging:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHOpO0IydBY

(https://a-z-animals.com/media/2022/12/shutterstock_478448251-1024x576.jpg)

Of course this is only the first step. Decolonization is only complete when Denmark has been totally destroyed. Hopefully Greenland can, together with other victims of historical Danish colonization:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_overseas_colonies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Gold_Coast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_India

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tharangambadi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serampore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicobar_Islands

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_West_Indies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_slave_trade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_East_India_Company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_West_India_Company

one day participate in the future war of annihilation against Denmark.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/denmark/
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 09, 2023, 02:19:26 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07TiI6gSpu8

Woke comments:

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Russia has long been unpopular in Central Asia; they are regarded as racist and colonialists, and that goes back several centuries.

Russia and China are natural rivals and inevitably the relationship  will be difficult.

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China will understand that, in order to create a viable alternative from the West, it needs to ditch russia, and cooperate closely with India, South Korea, Indonesia, Japan, Vietnam and Thailand, with a genuine respect.

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one of these days China is going to liberate Russia from the Russians. and save the world

(Unfortunately, almost certainly not so long as Eurocentrist Xi remains in power.....)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 17, 2023, 12:45:04 am
Similar to what I have been saying:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYbiaSkSJxw

Woke (and specifically regressive!) comments:

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Chinese civilisation and thoughts are very much indebted by the transmission of Mahayana Buddhism from India since the 1st century. Indian Buddhist scholar monks were well sought by the Chinese emperors to transmit their wisdom in order to strengthen their empires. Now China preserved many of the translated scriptures that the original Sanskrit version were already lost.

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The Chinese & Indian civilizations have been around thousands of years, contributing so much to the world. If only both countries can reflect on their rich historical past to overcome their adversarial politics for the betterment of both nations.

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The British had left a deliberate mess wherever they were ruling so that, as they calculated, they would be called or meddled if there was any dispute. Now, we have become pawns or victims to their game.

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The British Empire once planted  seeds of   discord  in colonies and will also want other ex- colonies and many countries to fight against one another too.

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Nearly every conflict you look at ... there is European colonial background to it

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In 2000 year of india and China history we have never fought with each other , but only in 1962 india and China relation become worst

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India and China are old civilizations. Both must address each others concerns and issues and put to rest the 60 year enmity. We had friendly relations for centuries, don't let the last 60 years define our future.

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A great master from china explaining the peaceful relations India had with china for almost 2000 years, which was spoilt by east india company (British). Now we Indians and Chinese needs to get back to our roots and establish a greater friendship based on trust, exchange of ideas and keep all the western powers at distance.

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India / China should look back into their historical relationship & renew better relationship for both countries

Contrast with (progressive) Manju Baturu:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/arctic-alliance/msg19571/#msg19571

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/arctic-alliance/msg19581/#msg19581

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/arctic-alliance/msg19583/#msg19583

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/arctic-alliance/msg20171/#msg20171
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on June 25, 2023, 03:52:32 pm
This is what we need:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-stresses-common-threats-security-093000527.html

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China stresses common threats, security as it pushes for Iran-Pakistan engagement
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The dialogue is also aimed at bringing Pakistan and Iran together to coordinate on the "growing militant activities on the Pakistan-Iran border" - as a first step to strengthen trust and prepare for a future quadrilateral dialogue, which also involves Afghanistan, Khan added.
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Khan admitted that despite mutual intent, working with the Taliban government was "challenging" and further coordination with the Kabul authorities would be "a medium and long-term strategy" for Beijing.
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"The security and stability of [Pakistan, Iran or neighbouring] countries are closely related to China, as they are important, if not core, countries of the Belt and Road Initiative and the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor," said Yan.

(https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/flags-taliban-pakistan-iran-china-260nw-2200173065.jpg)

History:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Persian_culture#History

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With the presence of Muslim culture in the region in the Ghaznavid period, Lahore and Uch were established as centres of Persian literature. Abu-al-Faraj Runi and Masud Sa'd Salman (d. 1121) were the two earliest major Indo-Persian poets based in Lahore. The earliest of the "great" Indo-Persian poets was Amir Khusrow (d. 1325) of Delhi, who has since attained iconic status within the Urdu speakers of the Indian subcontinent as, among other things, the "father" of Urdu literature.
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Persian as a language of governance and education was abolished in 1839 by the British East India Company and the last Mughal emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar, even if his rule was purely symbolic or ceremonial, was dethroned in 1857 by the British.

Pakistan's positive relations with both China and the US during the Cold War era should be recalled as often as possible as a way to restore the vision of America and China being on the same side:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Pakistan#Foreign_policy_of_Pakistan

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China has played a significant role in the development, economy and security of Pakistan, with relationship beginning in 1950 when Pakistan was among the first countries to enter into official diplomatic relations with the Republic of China (on Taiwan Island) and recognizes the People's Republic of China (PRC) on Mainland China as the sole representative. Since then, both countries have placed considerable importance on the maintenance of an extremely close and supportive special relationship[25][26] and the two countries have regularly exchanged high-level visits resulting in a variety of agreements. The PRC has provided economic, military, and technical assistance to Pakistan, and each country considers the other a close strategic ally.[27][28]

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The United States has played an important role in the young history of Pakistan, being one of the first countries to recognize their independence on 14 August 1947.[32] The relationship between the two countries went through varying levels of friendliness, but Pakistan consistently found themselves on the United States side of issues faced during the Cold War.[33]

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/military-decolonization/msg6761/#msg6761
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest98 on June 25, 2023, 04:43:29 pm
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/middleeast/2023/06/25/egypts-president-meets-with-visiting-indian-prime-minister-to-strengthen-ties.html

Egypt’s president gives highest honor to visiting Indian prime minister as ties improve

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CAIRO (AP) — Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi on Sunday bestowed Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi with Egypt’s highest honor as the two countries tightened their partnership.

El-Sissi welcomed Modi at the presidential palace in Cairo with the Order of the Nile, the Egyptian presidency said in a statement. The leaders signed a declaration elevating Egyptian-Indo ties to a “strategic partnership,” which means the two nations agreed to intensify their cooperation and hold periodic talks, the statement said.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 20, 2023, 08:33:43 pm
Good work!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvpZwTgonMs

Will more formerly colonized countries follow suit?

Embassies are a Western institution in the first place. Non-Western countries practiced diplomacy for thousands of years with one another without any need for embassies.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 23, 2023, 06:35:15 pm
This article gets the tone correct (it is about helping Iran find a better deal than what it currently has!):

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-irans-unprecedented-military-ties-213901384.html

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Less than a year ago, the White House was warning of "unprecedented" military ties between Russia and Iran, but today, there are signs of increasing friction, with Moscow proving to be an unreliable partner.
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Iran expected to receive an unspecified number of Russian Su-35 jets, along with helicopters and even advanced S-400 air-defense systems. Yet there is no indication Iran has received any equipment or will receive any of it the foreseeable future.

Analysts expected Iran would receive at least 24 Su-35s — aircraft Russia built for Egypt as part of an order that was later canceled — in the near future, but in recent statements, Iranian officials have gone from expressing optimism that the first jets would arrive in a matter of months, if not weeks, to making comments that suggest they are unsure if the jets will arrive in the coming years.

In a damning report published on July 13, Tehran-based journalist Saeed Azimi cited one current and one former Iranian diplomat who, under condition of anonymity, told him that Iran "fully paid" for 50 Su-35s during the second term of former President Hassan Rouhani, who left office in August 2021.

While the figure of 50 Su-35s had not been disclosed prior to Azimi's article, it fits with Iran's longstanding estimate that it needs 64 new fighters to modernize its aging fleet, which is mostly composed of US-made jets acquired before the 1979 revolution.

Moscow promised delivery of the Su-35s by 2023, which the diplomats quoted by Azimi doubt will happen. "Iranian officials feel embarrassment over Russia's failure to adhere to commitments," Azimi wrote.

As if to add insult to injury, in July, Moscow backed a joint statement by the Gulf Cooperation Council that supported the United Arab Emirates' claim over Abu Musa, Greater Tunb, and Lesser Tunb, three small but important islands in the Persian Gulf near the Strait of Hormuz.
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Interestingly, in response to Russia's move, Iranian state-run media played down their partnership, saying it was merely tactical and that Moscow is not a strategic ally.
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Russia sold Iran only six relatively low-tech Su-25 attack planes in the 2000s. In 2007, Iran signed an $800 million contract for Russian S-300 air-defense systems, but Moscow refused to deliver them for almost a decade, only transferring them in 2016.

The UN arms embargo on Iran officially expired in October 2020, leaving no international restrictions that Russia could use as a pretext for refusing to deliver weapons for which Iran has reportedly already paid.

With their partnership looking more and more one-sided, Iranians may ask what they are getting militarily or politically from aiding Russia.

Now is the opportunity for the US to replace Russia as Iran's arms supplier! This could be the beginning of the US re-alignment to side with former victims of Western colonization, eventually culminating in a US-Iran joint invasion of Israel!

Woke comments:

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Iran making deals with a deadbeat.

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All you have to do is look at Russia's record on delivering similar promises to know you were going to get burned the moment the ink was dry.

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russia never holds up its end of any deal. It is already common knowledge.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on August 06, 2023, 12:15:38 pm
https://youtu.be/MNInzq0YHwg
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 15, 2023, 06:06:11 pm
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/brics-currency-replacing-dollar-ridiculous-183341338.html

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A BRICS currency replacing the dollar is a ‘ridiculous’ idea, says the top economist who named the group—unless China and India become allies
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For O’Neill, the unhealthy relationship between China and India is one of the main reasons a BRICS common currency is so unlikely.
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“I often say to Chinese policymakers…forget your endless historical battles and try to invite India to share the leadership on some big issues, because then the world might take you a bit more seriously.”
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Harvard Business School’s Tarun Khanna wrote in the Harvard Business Review in 2007 that there was “mutual respect and admiration” for literally thousands of years, as the “Tea and Horse Road” powered the development of two great civilizations.
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“China and India can’t even really agree on basic things like a peaceful border. I mean, how on earth can people seriously believe these guys are going to introduce a shared currency?” he said. “It’s amusing. Sorry. I just think it’s fanciful.”

In the short term, then, it seems O’Neill’s prediction is accurate that a BRICS currency would be “ridiculous.” But thousands of years of history could tell another story in the long run.

It would be easier if it was BICS.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on August 16, 2023, 01:08:16 pm
I suspect Russia is deliberately trying to discourage good relations between India and China by encouraging mistrust of each other. This in turn allows Russia to act as the “savior” for both countries.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 16, 2023, 03:01:05 pm
"mistrust"

Do you mean distrust as in ceasing to trust (c.f. disuse, dislike, etc.) or do you really mean mistrust as in trusting someone who shouldn't be trusted (c.f. misuse, mistake, etc.)?
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on August 16, 2023, 08:19:38 pm
Yes, distrust, sorry.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on August 27, 2023, 09:45:37 am
https://twitter.com/ifeanyichukwu83/status/1695766673427452109
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IFEANYICHUKWU
@ifeanyichukwu83
The future is bright
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https://twitter.com/GunterFehlinger/status/1695764058417340677
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Russia is collapsing
Only tragic #BRICS fools have not noticed …
Do you have no internet in Brazil 🇧🇷 or can you not google translate English?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4iPUaOWgAABD36?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Russia should be cut out from BRICS. The U.S. should help the remaining countries become regional powers by allying with them against Russia.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: guest98 on August 29, 2023, 06:54:50 pm
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/india-vetoed-algeria-brics-entry-at-frances-request-report

India vetoed Algeria BRICS+ entry at France's request: Report

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Algeria's long-awaited ascension to BRICS+ failed to materialize last week during the bloc's summit in South Africa, as Arabic media says India used its veto against the North African nation at the request of France.

Informed sources that spoke with Algeria's Dzair Tube say French intelligence contacted their Indian counterparts ahead of the BRICS+ summit to urge New Delhi into vetoing Algeria's entry to the bloc, describing the move as “revenge” for Algiers' growing influence in the Sahel region “at the expense” of France and as a way to slow down burgeoning ties between Algeria and China.

Tensions between Paris and Algiers spiked after a military junta ousted the French-backed government in Niger, in the latest example of a growing anti-west movement in the Sahel. Since then, Algeria has opposed an ECOWAS military operation in Niger, emphasized the role of diplomacy in bringing about a peaceful solution to the crisis, and refused permission for French military aircraft to fly over Algerian airspace.

The French plot took shape in the wake of a failed bid by President Emmanuel Macron to attend the summit in South Africa.

India saw an opportunity in the request from Paris, as officials were reportedly offered western help to “fill the void” left in former French colonies that have recently risen against neocolonial rule and extend its influence in a vital continent for BRICS+.

Nonetheless, India's veto against Algeria led to a dispute with China during the voting process

China sees great potential in the North African country joining BRICS+ due to its massive fuel reserves, minimal national debt, and its strategic location between Europe and sub-Saharan Africa. China is also funding the rehabilitation of the strategic Port of El Hamdania, as Algeria remains an essential part of the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).

Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 29, 2023, 07:27:04 pm
They should have vetoed Argentina:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/argentina/

not Algeria:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/french-colonialism-in-algiers/

Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: Zhang Caizhi on August 30, 2023, 11:30:03 am
Could it be that India has something with France?
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on September 06, 2023, 02:52:39 pm
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4xLj3lhcXPc
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on September 09, 2023, 10:41:15 am
https://twitter.com/zhukov45/status/1700185756008927418?t=09oDUtXx3G011CIbR5Cy4A&s=19 (Video at link):
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This was how Modi was welcomed in Xi'an, China 🇨🇳

Synchronized and disciplined dancers performing to their ancient tunes

No cheap and tacky light show, no vulgar songs, no out-of-tune unaesthetic dance

And we want to win the civilization battle 🤡
https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/1699985402679947369?t=B2dY9szOLzO8_bq3d4hpGQ&s=19 (video at link):
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VIDEO | Cultural dance performance at Delhi airport to welcome Argentina President Alberto Fernandez, who has arrived to attend the G20 Summit.

(Source: Third Party)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on September 09, 2023, 05:57:22 pm
https://twitter.com/mungoroncel/status/1700025312283693367
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mungoron
@mungoroncel
Indian gift to G20 summit guests is Epileptic Seizure as a cheap laser show to the beat of cheaper bollywood songs plays in the background
https://twitter.com/IndianTechGuide/status/1699105863225729537
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Indian Tech & Infra
@IndianTechGuide
India geared up for G20 summit. (video at link):
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: . on September 09, 2023, 06:52:17 pm
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/modi-g20-summit-shipping-corridor-india-europe-1.6961818

G20 leaders unveil ambitious international shipping corridors for India, Africa

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U.S. President Joe Biden and his allies on Saturday announced plans to build a rail and shipping corridor linking India with the Middle East and Europe, an ambitious project aimed at fostering economic growth and political co-operation.

"This is a big deal," Biden said. "This is a really big deal."

The corridor, outlined at the annual Group of 20 summit of the world's top economies, would help boost trade, deliver energy resources and improve digital connectivity. It would include India, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Jordan, Israel and the European Union, said Jake Sullivan, Biden's national security adviser.

Sullivan said the network reflected Biden's vision for "far-reaching investments" that come from "effective American leadership" and a willingness to embrace other nations as partners.

"Enhancing connectivity with all regions has been a key priority for India," Modi said, speaking through a translator. "We believe that connectivity is a means to not only increase mutual trade between different countries but also increase mutual trust."

The rail and shipping corridor would help physically tie together a vast stretch of the globe

African Union now a permanent G20 member

The G20 welcomed the African Union as a member at their annual summit Saturday.

There was widespread support for adding the AU to the G20, making it the second regional bloc to become a permanent member after the European Union and adding momentum to Modi's drive to give a greater voice to the Global South.


Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 09, 2023, 06:54:02 pm
I do not find any of the above performances to be particularly worthy of either praise or scorn. What is your own opinion about them?
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: . on September 09, 2023, 07:57:28 pm
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There was widespread support for adding the AU to the G20, making it the second regional bloc to become a permanent member after the European Union and adding momentum to Modi's drive to give a greater voice to the Global South.

^, i can delete the post if u want though.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: . on September 09, 2023, 08:00:39 pm
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2370591/business-economy

Arab nations join forces with Africa at continent’s first climate summit

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The historic first Africa Climate Summit held this week allowed the continent to set out how its countries can tackle global warming — with the Arab world taking a key role in shaping the conversation.

Led by Kenyan President William Ruto, the unprecedented gathering underscored the urgent need for global action to combat climate change, placing the Arab angle at the forefront of discussions.

The summit, held from Sept. 4 to 6 in Kenya’s capital Nairobi, set a powerful precedent for cross-continental cooperation, with the goal of harnessing collective strength to mitigate the far-reaching impacts of climate change and secure a sustainable future for both regions.


In this context, the Africa Climate Summit can serve as “a catalyst for collaborative initiatives that transcend borders,”


Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 09, 2023, 08:07:27 pm
"^, i can delete the post if u want though."

I was replying to rp. Sorry for any confusion.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on September 09, 2023, 08:09:54 pm
In the first video (Indian one), the music is a hodgepodge mixture of Classical Indian Carnatic and Westernized Pop music. The song itself is an English language pop song by the singer Ed Sheeran that has been remixed using Indian musical styles. For a government that purportedly seeks to promote "Indian" culture, it is very cheap of them to use a foreign pop song that has merely been remixed. Moreover, the dance choreography and synchronization are subpar, in addition to being crass and vulgar (i.e. suggestive hip thrusts). I am not an authoritarian who seeks to ban this type of dancing, but it is completely inappropriate for welcoming foreign dignitaries:
https://twitter.com/madhukishwar/status/1700494154596581788

In the second video, the disco lights/laser show is completely unnecessary and inappropriate. The song was added by the Twitter user so no complaints there.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 09, 2023, 08:17:56 pm
"it is completely inappropriate for welcoming foreign dignitaries:"

Can you, for contrast, post a video of a performance that you would consider suitable for welcoming foreign dignitaries?
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on September 09, 2023, 08:19:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZjgXqhgO08
Title: Re: EU
Post by: FranceTurkey on September 16, 2023, 07:26:47 pm
Why France and Turkey are Feuding over Africa
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Despite both being in NATO, France and Turkey don't really get on. In just the last few years, the relationship has soured due to Syria, Libya and the disputes in the Eastern Mediterranean. With the tensions escalating in 2020, a bit of improvement a year later, is France really becoming Turkey's enemy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYLqGD0Tht8

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I don't think anyone has made anti french sentiments in Africa worse than France itself
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100% true. Everyone hates franch😂 even peopel in Europa.
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Amazing to think that Erdogan saying “Africa belongs to Africans” is viewed as controversial by France…. No wonder they are getting kicked out
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Turkey already established relationships in East Africa especially in Somalia since they have their biggest military base in Somalia. Turkey clearly want to establish relationships with majority Muslim countries in Africa and this pretty much will give them laverge over long term. France will lose their influence in Africa since their is nothing common that France and West Africa have unlike turkey.
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We see this phenomenon with other colonialist . Like Indians. Pakistanis, Nigerian etc migrating to uk. This doesn’t mean these people are not aware of the atrocities these colonial empire have committed to their countries and have made their country poor.
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The amount of butthurt people over Turkey OFFERING TRADE AGREEMENTS,  is absolutely insane and ridiculous. Turkey is not forcing anyone to accept them. Yet the comment section is filled with people defending the neo-colonial Empire of France and demands for sanctions against Turkey.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: - on September 16, 2023, 08:20:46 pm
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/16/global-south-leaders-demand-end-of-plundering-international

Global South leaders demand end of ‘plundering international order’

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Cuba’s leader says the Global South must “change the rules of the game” of the international order after centuries of dominance by wealthy Western nations putting their own interests first.

President Miguel Diaz-Canel said developing countries were the main victims of a “multidimensional crisis” in the world today from “abusive unequal trade” to devastating climate change.

“After all this time that the North has organised the world according to its interests, it is now up to the South to change the rules of the game,” Diaz-Canel said at the opening of the G77+China summit in Havana.

Emerging countries represent 80 percent of the world’s population. The meeting comes at a time of growing frustration with the Western-led world order

United Nations chief Antonio Guterres joined 30 heads of state and government from Africa, Asia and Latin America at the two-day gathering.

At the opening of the meeting on Friday, Guterres called for a world “more representative and responsive to the needs of developing economies”, stressing nations were “trapped in a tangle of global crises”.

“The conclusion is clear: The world is failing developing countries,” Guterres said in Spanish.

‘Unjust’ international order

China is represented by top Communist Party official Li Xi, who said his country “will always make South-South cooperation a priority” in its dealings with the outside world.

A draft of the closing statement underlines the many obstacles facing developing nations, and includes “a call for the establishment of a new economic world order”, he said.



Judeo christianity and its demented child western democracy must be given the final K.O!! It is these two which have produced the accursed homo hubris white hordes. 
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 21, 2023, 08:35:00 pm
https://us.yahoo.com/news/china-un-presents-itself-member-225502802.html

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China, at UN, presents itself as a member of the Global South as alternative to a Western model

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — China told assembled world leaders Thursday that it considers itself part of the Global South, saying it identifies with the goals and challenges of less-developed nations and offering them an alternative to what it has long called “Western hegemony.”
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Xi sent Vice President Han Zheng to deliver a policy statement at the General Assembly's leaders' meeting that covered the government's usual positions with familiar language but appeared to focus on building coalitions around its approach to development and international relations.

“As the largest developing country, China is a natural member of the Global South. It breathes the same breath with other developing countries and shares the same future with them,” Han said. He also said China supports those nations' development path “in keeping with their national conditions.”

The loosely defined term “Global South,” which has come up frequently at the United Nations this year, identifies nations around the world that are less developed and less rich than what have typically been called “first-world nations.” They're not necessarily in the Southern Hemisphere; many, in fact, are not.

Good! But did anyone give Xi the memo reminding him that Russia is not part of the Global South?

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Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on October 01, 2023, 01:36:22 am
https://youtu.be/7DkjcbJxCHg
Title: Re: War
Post by: . on October 15, 2023, 08:12:58 pm
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/15/china-saudi-arabia-israel-palestinians-00121601

China says Israel has gone too far

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China’s foreign minister said Saturday that Israel has gone too far in responding to last week’s invasion by Hamas, China’s official news agency reported.

Speaking to Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Israel’s actions have extended beyond self-defense.

According to Xinhua, China has an interest in helping resolve the conflict and the underlying issues involving the Palestinian population.

The report contained no direct quotes, but Xinhua said about Wang’s remarks during the phone conversation: “China is in intensive communication with all parties to push for a ceasefire and an end to the fighting, he said, adding that the pressing task is to ensure the safety of civilians, open humanitarian corridors for aid as soon as possible, and protect the basic needs of the people in Gaza.”

Before the Hamas incursion and subsequent Israeli military response, it was believed that Israel and Saudi Arabia, driven by a common animus toward Iran, were working toward a normalization of relations, a development that could have shifted the dynamic in the Middle East.



Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 17, 2023, 01:48:55 am
Petro takes a stand?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/colombia-president-petro-threatens-cut-211359453.html

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Colombia’s President Petro threatens to cut ties with Israel over war in Gaza
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“If we have to suspend foreign relations with Israel, we suspend them. We do not support genocides,” Petro said on Sunday evening on X, formerly known as Twitter.
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Petro, an avid social media user, started sharing comments in support of what he referred to as the Palestinian cause. He published photos of Palestinian children killed by Israel’s military response in Gaza and said: “Terrorism is killing innocent children, whether in Colombia or Palestine.”
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Israel called in Colombia’s ambassador for consultations on Sunday to deliver “a reprimand concerning the hostile and antisemitic statements against the State of Israel made last week by the President of Colombia, Gustavo Petro,” Haiat said.
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Petro, a leftist president with a guerrilla past,
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also said Colombia will send humanitarian aid to Gaza.

About Petro:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavo_Petro#Foreign_affairs

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Petro had met Chávez in 1994, on Seventh Street in Bogotá, after inviting the latter to come to Colombia to learn more about the new Political Constitution of 1991. At the Bridge of Boyacá, both "swore an oath of Bolivarian integration for Latin America".[128] After Chávez's death in 2013, Petro affirmed that he was a "great Latin American leader", saying: "You lived in Chávez's times and maybe you thought he was a clown. You were fooled. You lived in the times of a great Latin American leader". He also expressed: "Even if many do not like him, Hugo Chávez will be a man who will be remembered by the history of Latin America, his critics will be forgotten", "a friend and a hope is gone".[127]
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 25, 2023, 04:35:58 pm
The statement we have been waiting for:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/turkeys-erdogan-says-hamas-not-112649881.html

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Turkey's Erdogan says Hamas is not terrorist organisation, cancels trip to Israel
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ANKARA (Reuters) -Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, in his strongest comments yet on the Gaza conflict, said on Wednesday the Palestinian militant group Hamas was not a terrorist organisation but a liberation group fighting to protect Palestinian lands.

NATO member Turkey condemned the civilian deaths caused by Hamas's Oct. 7 rampage in southern Israel, but also urged Israeli forces to act with restraint in their response. Ankara has strongly criticised Israel's bombardment of Gaza.

"Hamas is not a terrorist organisation, it is a liberation group, 'mujahideen' waging a battle to protect its lands and people," he told lawmakers from his ruling AK Party, using an Arabic word denoting those who fight for their faith.

You can tell the importance of this statement by the reaction of those who dislike it:

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Israel rejected Erdogan's description of Hamas, with Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lior Haiat calling the group "a despicable terrorist organisation".

"Even the Turkish president's attempt to defend the terrorist organisation and his inciting words will not change the horrors that the whole world has seen," Haiat wrote on social media platform X.

Erdogan's comments also drew a swift rebuke from Italian Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini, who said they were "grave and disgusting and did not help with de-escalation". He urged Italy's foreign minister to lodge a formal protest with Ankara.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/israel/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/matteo-salvini/

Additional perspective:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/eff/msg23036/#msg23036

Related:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg22992/#msg22992
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on October 25, 2023, 06:01:39 pm
Full video:
https://youtu.be/AMEung8b8Xo
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on October 25, 2023, 07:59:13 pm
https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1717284467201425741
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Iran Observer
@IranObserver0
The Arabs are sitting on oceans of oil, but they can't get a barrel of oil into Gaza, nor they are using their oil to put pressure on the West.
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Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on October 25, 2023, 08:14:03 pm
On a side note, what are your thoughts about the House of Saud being crypto-Jews? On the one hand, they seem to be becoming more friendly with them, but on the other hand, they are one of the few countries in the world that does not even recognize Israel as a country. Is it just Iranian propaganda?
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on October 25, 2023, 10:05:17 pm
https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1712204221825654876
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⚡️In the first telephone conversation between Ayatollah Raisi and His Royal Highness Mohammed bin Salman, they agreed on the need to stop war crimes against Palestine. Islamic unity was emphasised and both expressed the view that the regime's crimes and the US green light would lead to a devastating danger for the regime and its supporters.
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Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 26, 2023, 01:22:37 am
"what are your thoughts about the House of Saud being crypto-Jews?"

I find it believable, but it makes little practical difference. Either way they are genetic trash:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_of_Saudi_Arabia#Personality,_pastimes_and_property

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Falconry and horse-riding were Khalid's favorite pastimes.[3][140] He was described as a man of the desert.[40] He had one of the best falcon collections.[141] In the late 1970s King Khalid was given a rare Alberta-trained gyrfalcon by the Canadian government as a gift.[142] Hunting was also one of his favorites, and he went to African countries to participate in hunting safaris when he was young.[141] Khalid bought the first Toyota Landcruiser in 1955 for falconry.[143] In December 1975 he bought the then longest Cadillac at 25 feet and 2 inches long again for falconry,[144] and Time magazine called it "Khalidillac".[56] In June 1974 while he was Crown Prince in a meeting with US Foreign Minister Henry Kissinger Khalid stated that he had been interested in hunting with hawks for forty years.[121]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahd_of_Saudi_Arabia#Recreational_activities

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King Fahd was known to enjoy luxurious living abroad and a lavish lifestyle. He visited the ports of the French Riviera in his 147-metre (482 ft) yacht, the US$100 million Prince Abdulaziz. The ship featured two swimming pools, a ballroom, a gym, a theatre, a portable garden, a hospital with an intensive-care unit and two operating rooms, and four American Stinger missiles.[65] The king also had a personal $US150 million Boeing 747 jet, equipped with his own fountain. In Fahd's younger years, he used to engage in activities considered un-Islamic, such as drinking and gambling. Fahd reportedly lost millions of dollars in casinos and started using illegal methods to regain the same amount.[66]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_of_Saudi_Arabia#Wealth

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King Abdullah was an expert equestrian in his youth. His stables were considered the largest in Saudi Arabia, with over 1,000 horses spread throughout five divisions led by his son Prince Mutaib.[159]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_bin_Salman#Personal_life

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The Economist reported that on at least one occasion, Mohammed beat his wife so severely that medical treatment was required.[304]

In 2015, Mohammed purchased the Italian-built and Bermuda-registered yacht Serene from Russian vodka tycoon Yuri Shefler for €500 million.[305][306] In 2015, he purchased the Château Louis XIV in France for over $300 million.[307][308]

In December 2017, a number of sources reported that Mohammed, using his close associate Prince Badr bin Abdullah bin Mohammed Al Farhan as an intermediary, had bought Salvator Mundi by Leonardo da Vinci; the sale in November at $450.3 million set a new record price for a work of art.[309][310][311][312]
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on October 27, 2023, 08:30:49 am
Common Bedouin L:
https://youtu.be/ABKz2wJyDaU

Nice to see him getting shredded in the comments.



Title: Re: Turkey
Post by: Worldwide on October 29, 2023, 04:27:54 pm
Israel Withdraws Diplomats From Turkey | Erdogan Ready To Declare Israel A “War Criminal” | Hamas
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Israel said it was pulling its diplomats out of Turkey to “reassess relations” with the country, The Times of Israel reported on October 28. The move came as President Recep Tayyip Erdogan continued to lash the Jewish state for its actions in the Gaza Strip. In a statement, Israel’s Foreign Ministry said the action was being taken in light of the escalating rhetoric from Turkey. Erdogan, whose government only recently restored full diplomatic ties with Israel, has massively stepped up his criticism of the country. In a recent rally, the Turkish President said his country was making preparations to proclaim Israel a “war criminal”. Watch this video to know more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOkJ1PC-hG8
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on October 29, 2023, 08:45:14 pm
https://twitter.com/TalibanPRD__/status/1718735088538484959
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Taliban Public Relations Department, Commentary
@TalibanPRD__
The current Muslim leaders are the greatest cowards that ever walked the earth.

They are humiliating the Umma for not making a move.

At a minimum, cut off the oil - #NoOilForIsrael.

Kick out Israeli ambassadors and cut all diplomatic ties - #KickThemOut

Come on, cowards!
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Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on October 30, 2023, 09:23:48 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoNMHSaokSg

Comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoNMHSaokSg&lc=UgzNT-YgNk1cUvlaHNp4AaABAg
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Between Israeli forces and Hamas “terrorists”? ANI should stop using labels which the govt of India has not officially given. India has not designated Hamas as a terrorist organisation and Indian has always been with Palestine in this issue. ANI and Smitha Prakash are blatantly feeding right wing nutcases with such captions

I don't understand why India is doing this...
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on November 02, 2023, 03:48:38 pm
Taliban on relationship with India:
https://twitter.com/TalibanPRD__/status/1703719975687709053?t=cA9I832SS50l8mw0oUx4fg&s=19
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It's a nation that loves cows. That's fine with us, they are beautiful animals. We are hoping to build a strong relationship with India
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on November 04, 2023, 09:21:37 am
https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1720794831826407640
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Iran Observer
@IranObserver0
⚡️Turkey has recalled its ambassador in Tel Aviv back to Turkey amid continued Israeli attacks on Gaza.
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Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on November 06, 2023, 03:09:54 pm
At last! The fruits of anti-Zionist activism:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/06/u-s-diplomats-slam-israel-policy-in-leaked-memo-00125538
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on November 06, 2023, 04:36:53 pm
https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1720710770328006681
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Iran Observer
@IranObserver0
A high-ranking delegation of Taliban, led by deputy Prime Minister Mulla Abdul Ghani Baradar, departed for Iran.

The delegation will meet Iranian officials and discuss bilateral economic cooperation.
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Title: Re: Iran
Post by: iran on November 12, 2023, 11:39:45 am
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/iran-asks-muslim-countries-to-designate-israel-military-terrorist-organisation-war-rages-hamas-4567164

Iran Calls On Muslim Nations To Designate Israel Army "Terrorist Organisation"

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Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi called Saturday on Islamic governments to designate Israel's military a "terrorist organisation", citing its current operations in the Gaza Strip.

"Islamic governments should designate the army of the occupying and aggressor regime as a terrorist organisation," Raisi told a summit of Arab and Muslim leaders in the Saudi capital Riyadh.

He called for "cutting any sort of political or economic relations with the Zionist regime" as important steps to be taken by Islamic countries.

Implementing a "trade boycott against the Zionist regime especially in the energy field should be prioritised," he added.

The Iranian president, whose country is a supporter of Hamas militants, hit out at the United States for providing financial and military support to Israel.

"Both the war machine of the Zionist regime and its fuel belong to the Americans," he said, adding that "undoubtedly, the US government is the commander and the main accomplice of this crime."
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 12, 2023, 03:16:30 pm
I agree with calling the IDF terrorists, but why ask only Islamic governments to do so? This makes it appear as though Iran does not expect other governments to perceive the IDF as terrorists, when IDF terrorism should be obvious to all governments of former victims of the Western colonial powers.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: west on November 14, 2023, 08:00:23 pm
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67417570

Arab and Muslim leaders blame West for Gaza misery

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Hypocrisy, double standards and a failure to understand the region. These are the charges being levelled at the West, primarily the US, by leaders of 57 Arab and Muslim countries who convened at the weekend in the Saudi capital Riyadh.

Few people I spoke to at the summit expected Israel to take much notice. Instead, it was clear that this summit and its intended message of unity was aimed at Israel's biggest backer - the United States. Leaders want the Biden administration and the West in general to exert sufficient pressure on Israel to stop the war altogether.

radicalisation of our youth," one Arab foreign minister told me on background. "They watch what is happening in Gaza on TV and they are increasingly angry."




Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: implants on November 17, 2023, 06:43:47 am
https://globalnews.ca/news/10095491/india-canada-trade-nijjar-mary-ng/

With India trade talks on ice, Canada’s ‘focus’ is on Nijjar probe: Mary Ng

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International Trade Minister Mary Ng says Canada’s “focus” is investigating the killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar while trade talks with India remain on ice.

“Right now, the focus for Canada is to let the work of the investigation proceed. That’s really important because you’ve heard me and the government talk about how important it is that that investigation happens, given that we had a Canadian killed on Canadian soil,” she said.

Canada’s relations with India have soured in the wake of a public allegation by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Sept. 18 that Ottawa had “credible evidence” that agents of the Indian government may have been involved in Nijjar’s death.

The Canadian-Sikh advocate was gunned down outside his gurdwara in Surrey, B.C., in June.

India sharply rejected the allegations



Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on November 20, 2023, 09:18:02 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwF2lw-C-gg
Thank God India avoided the most retarded foreign policy blunder of the 21st century. BTW, Saddam was a close friend of India.
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on November 20, 2023, 09:56:38 pm
I agree with calling the IDF terrorists, but why ask only Islamic governments to do so? This makes it appear as though Iran does not expect other governments to perceive the IDF as terrorists, when IDF terrorism should be obvious to all governments of former victims of the Western colonial powers.

To be fair, he was speaking at the OIC (Organisation of Islamic Cooperation). There should be a similar organization for former victims of Western colonial powers. NAM comes to mind, but it is practically irrelevant today.
Title: Re: Gaza
Post by: gaza on November 21, 2023, 09:17:25 pm
https://www.africanews.com/2023/11/21/south-africa-calls-on-icc-to-arrest-netanyahu/

South Africa calls on ICC to arrest Netanyahu

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The South African government on Monday called on the International Criminal Court to issue an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by mid-December.

Minister in the Presidency Khumbudzo Ntshavheni said it would signal a "total failure" of global governance if the ICC does not do so.

"The world cannot simply stand by and watch. The global community needs to rise to stop this genocide now," said Ntshavheni.

Alongside four other countries, South Africa last week submitted a referral to the ICC to investigate whether war crimes and crimes against humanity have been committed in Gaza.

A longtime supporter of the Palestinian cause, South Africa recalled its ambassador and diplomatic staff from Israel on November 6.

Following South Africa's move on Monday, Israel recalled its own envoy in Pretoria.

Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: canada on December 09, 2023, 03:51:21 am
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-cindy-woodhouse-to-become-new-national-chief-of-assembly-of-first/

AFN’s new National Chief Cindy Woodhouse vows to hold government accountable
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on December 09, 2023, 05:47:46 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3cOh7E-tl0

Comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3cOh7E-tl0&lc=Ugx4wjkC7LcNJZDcIAV4AaABAg.9xlXAw4XhKh9xldERdjAQd
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@amankumar-nz1yq
8 days ago
Mughal were the dirty mixture of Mongols & Turkish Turkic - rp people...not Afghanistan.... Afghanistan has always been a colony of one or other country...and 2500 years back it was a part of maurya empire...read history... don't spread propoganda
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on February 06, 2024, 07:31:02 pm
https://x.com/ANI/status/1754846371939602809?s=20
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ANI
@ANI
Iran announces that visa for citizens of India will be abolished starting from 4th February2024 subject to the following conditions:

1. Individuals holding ordinary passports will be allowed to enter the country without a visa once every six months, with a maximum stay of 15 days. It is important to note that the 15-day period cannot be extended.

2. The visa abolition only applies to individuals entering the territory of the Islamic Republic of Iran for tourism purposes.

3. If Indian nationals wish to stay for a longer period or make multiple entries within a six-month period or require other types of visas, they must obtain the necessary visas through the respective representations of the Islamic Republic of Iran in India.

4. The visa abolition outlined in this approval specifically applies to Indian nationals who enter the country just through the air border.

EDIT: Wrong thread. Please move
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 12, 2024, 05:05:38 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6v5SsQAQEc

 :)
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on February 18, 2024, 10:07:03 am
https://twitter.com/CastePatroller/status/1758354690172157978?t=W7M06-rVtUIhLdo3aZ46BQ&s=19

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I don’t think so any other nation state does this level of monkey balancing —

> conferred ‘Grand Collar of the State of Palestine’
> sends financial and medical aid to Gaza
> sells drones to Israel in ongoing war
> acquires the Haifa Port of Israel
> votes against Israel in UN0

This is the Western approach of "realpolitik". The non-Western approach involves uniting based on a single common enemy (Western civilization).
Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: antihellenistic on April 07, 2024, 05:08:25 am
United States Diplomatically Becomes more "American"

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Support is building among Africa and Caribbean nations for the creation of an international tribunal on atrocities dating to the transatlantic trade of enslaved people, with the United States backing a U.N. panel at the heart of the effort.

A tribunal, modelled on other ad-hoc courts such as the Nuremberg trials of Nazi war criminals after World War Two, was proposed last year. It has now gained traction within a broader slavery reparations movement, Reuters reporting based on interviews with a dozen people reveals.

Formally recommended in June by the U.N. Permanent Forum on People of African Descent, the idea of a special tribunal has been explored further at African and Caribbean regional bodies, said Eric Phillips, a vice-chair of the slavery reparations commission for the Caribbean Community, CARICOM, which groups 15 member states.

The scope of any tribunal has not been determined but the U.N. Forum recommended in a preliminary report that it should address reparations for enslavement, apartheid, genocide, and colonialism.

Advocates, including within CARICOM and the African Union (AU), which groups 55 nations across the continent, are working to build wider backing for the idea among U.N. members, Phillips said.

A special U.N. tribunal would help establish legal norms for complex international and historical reparations claims, its supporters say. Opponents of reparations argue, among other things, that contemporary states and institutions should not be held responsible for historical slavery.

Even its supporters recognise that establishing an international tribunal for slavery will not be easy.
There are “huge obstacles,” said Martin Okumu-Masiga, Secretary-General of the Africa Judges and Jurists Forum (AJJF), which is providing reparations-related advice to the AU.

Hurdles include obtaining the cooperation of nations that were involved in the trade of enslaved people and the legal complexities of finding responsible parties and determining remedies.

“These things happened many years ago and historical records and evidence can be challenging to access and even verify,” Okumo-Masiga said.

Unlike the Nuremberg trials, nobody directly involved in transatlantic slavery is alive.

Asked about the idea of a tribunal, a spokesperson for the British Foreign Office acknowledged the country’s role in transatlantic slavery, but said it had no plan to pay reparations. Instead, past wrongs should be tackled by learning lessons from history and tackling “today’s challenges,” the spokesperson said.

However, advocates for reparations say Western countries and institutions that continue to benefit from the wealth slavery generated should be held accountable, particularly given ongoing legacies of racial discrimination.

A tribunal would help establish an “official record of history,” said Brian Kagoro, a Zimbabwean lawyer who has been advocating for reparations for over two decades.

{snip}

Africa’s most populous nation, Nigeria, is in favour of the push for a tribunal, Foreign Minister Yusuf Tuggar told Reuters in February, saying the country would support the idea “until it becomes a reality.”

{snip}

Phillips said the work to establish a tribunal would have to take place through the United Nations system and include conversations with countries, including Portugal, Britain, France, Spain, Netherlands and Denmark, that were involved in trading enslaved people to the Caribbean and other regions.

{snip}

The United States, which has financed the U.N forum, “will make a decision on the tribunal when it has been developed and established,” a U.S. State Department spokesperson said. “However, the United States strongly supports” the forum’s work, the spokesperson added.

Regarding reparations, “the complexity of the issue, legal challenges, and differing perspectives among Caribbean nations present significant challenges,” the spokesperson said.

The U.N. leadership has now come out in support for reparations, which have been used in other circumstances to offset large moral and economic debts, such as to Japanese Americans interned by the United States during World War Two and to families of Holocaust survivors.

{snip}

The Netherlands apologised for its role in transatlantic slavery last year and announced a roughly $200 million fund to address that past. A spokesperson for the foreign ministry said it was not aware of the discussions around a tribunal and could not respond to questions.

{snip}

Ghana led efforts to get African support for formally pursuing reparations, with Nigeria, Senegal and South Africa also taking up the cause, said Kamara.

Most discussion has focused on transatlantic trafficking, Hansford and Phillips said, rather than the older trans-Saharan trade to the Islamic world, estimated to have transported several million enslaved Africans.

What reparations would consist of in practice is debated. Some, including in the United States, have pushed for individual payments to descendants of enslaved people. CARICOM, in a 2014 plan, called for debt cancellation and support from European nations to tackle public health and economic crises.

The AU decision to join CARICOM has given new heft to the campaign, said Jasmine Mickens, a U.S.- based strategist for social movements who specialises in reparations.

The AU is now developing Africa’s own white paper on what reparations might look like, said Okumu-Masiga.

Source :

Africa, Caribbean Unite on Reparations Catarina Demony, Reuters, April 4, 2024

https://www.amren.com/news/2024/04/africa-caribbean-unite-on-reparations/

Title: Re: Diplomatic decolonization
Post by: rp on April 12, 2024, 12:00:17 pm
Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai!:
https://twitter.com/kaliyuga_surfer/status/1778600129718809015?t=xRZrFhDcbH6OX542fw_5dw&s=19