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Politics => Issues => Topic started by: 90sRetroFan on November 12, 2020, 11:16:30 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAXHXb-HLak
Some people (unwilling to confront the ugly truth) say the problem in India is colourism (ie. positive discrimination for lighter-skinned people, negative discrimination for darker-skinned people). If this theory is true, then Northeasterners, who on average are among the lightest-skinned:
(https://ojaifilmfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/What-is-Your-Brown-Number.jpg)
should tend to receive positive discrimination. But if in reality Northeasterners tend to receive negative discrimination, then what is going on cannot be straightforward colourism. What I suggest is really going on is (as usual) Eurocentrism. Positive discrimination is not for lighter-skinned people per se, but for people who remind the discriminators of their colonizers "whites" (which Northeasterners do not).
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"What I suggest is really going on is (as usual) Eurocentrism. Positive discrimination is not for lighter-skinned people per se, but for people who remind the discriminators of their colonizers "whites" (which Northeasterners do not)."
Unfortunately, mere sociological analyses put forth by mainstream media do not suffice to provide an adequate explanation for why such discrimination occurs. I theorize that there may be a genetic component that can be attributed to the behavior of such individuals, namely Turanian blood.
For example, it is no coincidence that the conventionally "white" looking individuals (both in terms of skin color and in their approximation towards Eurocentrically ideal phenotypes) in India are the ones that will seek to emulate Western mannerisms, dress, food habits, communication, etc, all of which are not necessarily "American", but which are undoubtedly Western. One could interpret this phenomenon simply as a matter of individuals wanting to solidify their position in the social hierarchy, but it can also be viewed as them aspiring towards the Eurocentric archetypes which naturally appeal to them.
The reason I bring up this point is because the sociological explanations can easily be used as a cop out (just as can the "colorism" explanations) by those who are inherently racist and seek to infiltrate anti-racist groups, be it Zionist agents or opportunistic False Leftists. Our message should be clear, if you are a racist, you are not welcome here, irrespective of what part of the world you are coming from.
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"For example, it is no coincidence that the conventionally "white" looking individuals (both in terms of skin color and in their approximation towards Eurocentrically ideal phenotypes) in India are the ones that will seek to emulate Western mannerisms, dress, food habits, communication, etc,"
Picture examples would be helpful.
To test your theory, if genes are causing this, then surely by the same token the Northeasterners who are bullied for looking "chinky") would be more likely to seek to emulate Sinosphere mannerisms/dress/etc.? Do they? (If not, the sociological explanation could account for this by noting that China never colonized India whereas Britain/Portugal/Netherlands did.)
"One could interpret this phenomenon simply as a matter of individuals wanting to solidify their position in the social hierarchy, but it can also be viewed as them aspiring towards the Eurocentric archetypes which naturally appeal to them."
Another way to investigate your theory is to consider which Eurocentric archetypes appeal most to the Indian Eurocentrists. For example, do they prefer British archetypes or Russian archetypes? If their behaviour is caused by Turanian blood as you propose, they should prefer the latter:
(https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/R1a-thegeneticatlas.png)
Do they? (Again, if not, the sociological explanation could account for this by noting that Russia never colonized India.)
"Our message should be clear, if you are a racist, you are not welcome here, irrespective of what part of the world you are coming from."
Definitely.
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www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/lets-talk-about-racism-you-look-south-indian-but-your-sister-looks-indian/story-4DgxcpTrZPC7db9rqziWgM.html
“Aap toh south Indian dikhti hai par aapki behen Indian dikhti hai.” (You look like a south Indian but your sister looks Indian.)
These words from a decades-old conversation with a Delhi beautician came back to me when Tarun Vijay, a former BJP MP and ex-editor of the RSS publication Panchjanya, recently tried to defend India against charges of racism. “If we were racist,” he said, “why would have all the entire south [India] which is complete… you know Tamil, you know Kerala, you know Karnataka and Andhra… why do we live with them? We have blacks, black people around us.” (sic) Many south Indians revealed their own white-skin fixation when they protested against Vijay’s comment by objecting to being termed black. It is just as telling that most north Indians would be aghast if they knew that the racial descriptor “black” is used by Europeans and Americans not for people of African origin alone but for Indians too, and not just the dark-skinned among us. The offensive aspect of Vijay’s statement is not in these sensitivities though, but in his condescension, the implication that the north can choose whether or not to “live with them”, and in the othering of the south.
It was an attitude echoed all those years back by that woman who blurted out in shock on discovering that my comparatively light-complexioned companion was my sibling: “You look like a south Indian but your sister looks Indian.” Because in her view, the standard Indian is gora and from the north, a dark skin like mine could only belong to a southerner, and a southerner is, of course, ‘the other’.
Being a Malayali-born and living in Delhi, I am used to such remarks. In my school years, I remember a reader of The Statesman writing to the editor: “south Indians are our guests” and “we” should be kind to “them”. “You southies have brains, we north Indians have looks,” said a neighbour to Mum one day.
These comments, like the oily-haired, aiyyaiyyo-spouting, vibhuti-sporting ‘Madrasi’ stock character in old Hindi cinema, are relatively innocuous manifestations of a problem so deep rooted that most of us scarcely notice it.
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Take colour, for one, in the Indian mindscape. White is a reminder of our colonisers, black the colour of African slaves; white is the dominant colour of today’s superpowers, black we associate with a poverty-stricken wilderness; white is linked to Brahmins i.e. those who work in the shade, black to lower castes i.e. those who work under the sun. It’s complicated and convoluted. North Indians, who tend to consider themselves universally ‘gora-chitta’, bombard light-skinned ‘Madrasis’ with the inexplicable question, “How can you be south Indian?”, and are cruel to ‘kallus’ among their own. Priyanka Chopra once spoke to me in an interview of the ordeal of being black in a Punjabi household. South Indians too deem light lovelier than dark. Meanwhile, suicides have been reported in both regions by victims of colour-related oppression.
Here though is a twist in my tale. My experience of colour prejudice pales in comparison with the crushing taunts thrown at one of my closest friends all his life. Kaala kauwa, kaala bhoot, kaala kaloota (black crow, black ghost, blacky), black as coal — he has heard it all, from classmates (in a respected Delhi school, mind you), neighbours, strangers, even relatives and friends. I saw his shoulders wilt in humiliation as a child, and each time my heart broke a little for him.
While writing this piece, I asked him why I was not similarly traumatised. Stressing his conviction that the epithets would have remained unchanged if he had been north Indian, he reminds me too that most Indians would not consider me as dark as he is. True. On the Asian Paints Shade Card of Complexions in every Indian’s head, I am 3.946 ‘shades fairer’ than my friend and 5.217 ‘shades darker’ than my sister. In the vocabulary of our contemptible version of racism, then, he is a ‘kaala kauwa’ deserving ridicule, I merit sympathy, and my sister is crowned an ‘Indian’.
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The correct way to undermine this is to keep exposing the extent of Eurocentrism/West-worship among a considerable fraction of Indians suffering from colonial trauma:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVuudcpW-MY
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www.gqindia.com/content/white-privilege-indian-tinder-gq-india
"I think maybe I'm a racist," writes Charu, 31, 14 kilometres away, active 2 minutes ago. "I only want 2 **** u coz u r white."
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"I want u 2 pee on me. R u into that?"
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But Charu's invitation reminded me of a piece I'd read in MW by Dustin Silgardo, about how men packing more melanin than me felt they weren't getting their fair shakes on Indian Tinder. Like, zero hits, bro.
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In fact, Indian men were complaining the app was broken, or corrupted by a "no matches bug". What other explanation could there be for their datelessness?
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Huh. That's interesting. I hadn't noticed any bugs (beyond the one match, in making the kind of horrible snap judgment so frowned upon on Tinder, whom I suspect may've picked up a few pant-crabs along the way). My Tinder box was full of Indian girls. A fecund amount. Were my Indian brothers really having so much trouble with this?
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So as one might -- as one should, fellas -- like having been diagnosed with a sneaky case of pant-crabs, I contacted my recent Tinder matches to see if our relations had been somehow infec--affected, by my evolutionary lack of skin pigment.
"Are you inclined to swipe right on a white guy more than an Indian?" I asked 28-year-old Sonali, a friend whose being on Tinder had initially made me consider that the whole thing might not just be for douche-tubes.
""I would lean towards the white guys," she said,
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She's done this six times since January, and has been on only 10 dates -- one Indian, nine whites. "One led to sex and one was just heavy petting," she wrote. "Both were white."
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Meera said at one point she used to get 25-30 matches an hour and had to turn off notifications.
Or maybe you shouldn't right-swipe quite so many dudes?
"Ok," I typed. "How many of those Tinder matches turned into real dates?"
"Four."
"And how many of them led to sex?"
"Just one. The white guy."
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"There are so many [women] on there that have really confrontational messages now," complained my 32-year-old Gujju friend Arjun, having noticed the Meeras of Tinder adding conditions and caveats to their profile descriptions recently.
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Well I guess you haven't matched with Charu yet, Arjun. In her case, those proscribed come-on lines above might be welcome. But no. Arjun wouldn't have matched with Charu. Our kinky little housewife is in it for the palefaces. Palefaces that'll **** on her.
And some people think I exaggerate about Eurocentrism among former formerly colonized peoples.....
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It was just a matter of time before this obvious inconsistency was called out. Now is as good a time as any!
www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bollywood-skin-whitening-priyanka-chopra-195756748.html
Priyanka Chopra — whom Forbes called “arguably the most successful Bollywood actor to cross over to Hollywood” — Sonam Kapoor — winner of India’s prestigious Filmfare Award in 2017 — and Disha Patani — who starred alongside Jackie Chan in the film “Kung Fu Yoga” — were among those criticized for posts promoting social justice and arguing that all skin colors deserve respect.
They previously served as brand ambassadors for Garnier, L’Oréal or Pond’s “fairness” creams, which are widely promoted in India as a means of reducing darker skin.
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Wrong way to rebut Eurocentrists appropriating the word "Aryan":
https://twitter.com/vakyas001/status/1381834604580122626?s=19
you must be either christian or stupid. oh wait, they're the same thing.
still worshiping a rotting corpse on a stick. mlecchas gonna mleccha.
eat beef. drink alcohol. WE WUZ ARYANS N' SHIEEEEET says the corpse-like untouchable.
😂
This underestimates the enemy. By attacking them for being "Christian" you are simply leading them to embrace the Turanian religion.
Also it is important to distinguish between Judeo Christians and real Christians.
At least he doesn't seem to be a racist (Eurocentrist) though:
https://twitter.com/vakyas001/status/1381769713471135746?s=19
judaism is the fountainhead of abrahamic exclusivism and bigotry. what is with Hindus in the US/UK sucking up to these abes?
abraham is the adi-asura (a demon of old).
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I am always disappointed to see Indian nationalists bashing Christianity, when they could be taking credit for it instead:
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1994-12-25-1994359065-story.html
"Jesus Lived in India."
In a nutshell, he proposes that the son of Joseph and Mary traveled to India when young, imbibed the Buddhist philosophy and world view at the feet of Buddhist monks, then returned to propagate his findings among his people in Palestine.
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Mr. Kersten asserts that Christ did not die on the cross but survived and returned to India.
In the remote Himalayan land of Kashmir, Jesus (known then as "Issa") lived to a ripe old age as a Buddhist monk, according to Mr. Kersten. His tomb, he says, appears to be situated in the Kashmiri city of Srinagar, where, in point of fact, it is venerated to this day.
Whatever the truth about Jesus,the book is a reminder of the extraordinary importance India has exerted through the centuries the human spirit.
Ritual baptism and monastic asceticism are among its exports. According to Mr. Kersten, even Jesus' parable of the widow's mite, cited in the Gospel according to St. Mark, seems to be a reworking of an older Buddhist story.
Another work of Mr. Kersten, to be published in English next March, enumerates the parallels between the teachings of Jesus and Siddhartha Gautama, the Indian prince and ascetic who founded Buddhism.
Mr. Kersten contends that Jesus' original message was hijacked by the Apostle Paul, who introduced new elements, including misogyny and the concept that Christ's death absolved others of their sins.
This interpretation would still allow them to attack Judaism.
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"Indian" promotes Turanians
https://twitter.com/HinduLiberty/status/1386419692902916096?s=20
No evidence our ancestors originated in Himalayas or Vedas were composed there.
Veda-Shastras contain both spiritual and worldly aspects. Nothing shameful about studying both aspects.
4000 years ago, there were no nation states. Nothing shameful if our ancestors came from steppe
Turanians must be thought of as anti-Indian. Just because they didn't consider themselves "White" doesn't mean they were not racist against the indigenous Indians.
Similarly, just because you don't consider "Whites" Aryan doesn't mean you aren't Eurocentric. Eurocentrism posits that the steppe subhumans were "Aryan", which you agree with.
BONUS:
He also promotes the Turanian diet:
https://twitter.com/HinduLiberty/status/1349084000837455872?s=20
It's ok to have a small portion of prasad. In traditional Vedic shrauta yajnas, animals are sacrificed and the officiating brahmin priests consume a small portion of the sacrificed animal meat.
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"Turanians must be thought of as anti-Indian."
To promote this first requires cultivating pride in pre-Vedic India.
"just because you don't consider "Whites" Aryan doesn't mean you aren't Eurocentric. Eurocentrism posits that the steppe subhumans were "Aryan", which you agree with."
Strictly speaking, Eurocentric Turanists would believe that the Turanians who migrated west degraded less from mixing than the Turanians who migrated south did.
I have encountered some Turanist Hindus who believe the opposite, which is their rationale for supposedly looking down on "whites": they think brahmins are purer Turanians than "whites", and won't shut up about brahmin average IQ test score (~120 ie. even higher than Jews (their emphasis)). These cannot be described as Eurocentric. Example:
https://www.aei.org/foreign-and-defense-policy/asia/the-ashkenazim-of-india/
So Brahmins are not same and if you don’t know the IQ of Bengali Brahmins (average with half standard deviation) vary among 110-122 as we Kulin Brahmins(well my ancestors had surname Ganguly) of Bengal have upper limit of IQ 122 which is lot higher than Ashkenazi.BTW 2 most famous pure living Bengali Brahmins are Anandamohan Chakraborty,one of the greatest biologist of 20th century who is more famous for his epic patent win and another one is Anirban Banerjee who Nobel laureate signature award in 2007 in field of Chemistry and there are few inventors o here in USA but the number of highest patents is only 7 who is only 29 year old.
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Well Tam Brahmin compares them with Ashkenazi,But Bengali Brahmin-Baidya say they have produced 5-10 times more laurels in terms of population than AShkenazi Jew.10,00 population in US has produced so many names,so if you change it mathematically to 7 million like Ashkenazi,then Bengali Brahmin-Baidya_brahmin have at least 10 times more achievements than Ashkenazi.
So Ashkenazi Jew are far inferior than us Bengali Brahmin-Baidya Brahmin.
Nevertheless, they measure superiority by Western standards. Western =/= Eurocentric.
In any case, don't just respond here, use your Twitter account to challenge the guy directly too!
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Another one of the comments:
https://www.aei.org/foreign-and-defense-policy/asia/the-ashkenazim-of-india/#comment-54303
Well Bengali hall of fame american Amar Gopal Bose died but we have two other hall of fame inventors still alive-A.Chakraborty,Bedabrata Pain and we have more than 120 Us patents/10000 population.
Tamil Brahmin-0 Hall of fame inventor,even rest of India has not produced any American Hall of fame inventor.
So even possessing a high IQ is not enough for him, he wants innovation! For the record, the Tamil Brahmins are vegetarians, whereas the Bengali Brahmins are not. The Tamil Brahmins also possess the lowest amount (among all other Brahmins) of the precious r1a1a haplogroup DNA favored by Turanists. Coincidence? Perhaps this could account for why Tamil Brahmins, despite possessing high IQs, do not use this intelligence to build more machinery. This is the difference between Aryan and non-Aryan intelligence.
"To promote this first requires cultivating pride in pre-Vedic India."
The Twitter account I mentioned says the Vedics simply "peacefully" migrated and mixed with the Harappans, and decided to call themselves "Aryan". He is different from the unabashed Turanists who take pride in destroying the Harappan Civilization. While it may be true that some of the Harappans mixed with the Vedics and called themselves Aryan as the IVC was rapidly decaying (beef eating was prominent), it was far from a peaceful migration. Also, the word "Aryan" predates the arrival of the steppe peoples.
"I have encountered some Turanist Hindus who believe the opposite, which is their rationale for supposedly looking down on "whites": they think brahmins are purer Turanians than "whites", and won't shut up about brahmin average IQ test score (~120 ie. even higher than Jews (their emphasis)). These cannot be described as Eurocentric."
What else do they consider "pure Turanism" though (aside from IQ)? Ritual sacrifice? Turanian diet? "Caucasoid" features? High sexual dimorphism? I mentioned the reverential attitude toward innovation also, but I would like to know if there are others.
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https://twitter.com/BharadwajSpeaks/status/1382676126040879111?s=20
Did you know?
The word "Ādivāsi" meaning "original inhabitants" was coined by a Christian missionary in 1930.
Such a word DID NOT EXIST in Sanskrit.
The implication of word is that non tribal Hindus are ALL outsiders to India . They inserted this word even in constitution.
It wasn't until reading Aryan Diffusion that I learned the so-called "Adivasi" were actually the Vanavasi. This makes sense considering that "Vanavasi" itself means "forest dweller" in Sanskrit, which obviously refers to the primitives whom the IVC people would have encountered.
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"IQ"
I suggest using the term "IQ test score" instead. Using "IQ" makes it sound like it is something real, whereas "IQ test score" makes it clear that it is merely the score for a particular Western test known as an IQ test.
"What else do they consider "pure Turanism" though (aside from IQ)? Ritual sacrifice? Turanian diet? "Caucasoid" features? High sexual dimorphism? I mentioned the reverential attitude toward innovation also, but I would like to know if there are others."
I would like to suggest one: ornamentation.
Before Turanian diffusion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harappan_architecture
sculpture have no integral role in architecture. They found separately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_India#Indus_Valley_Civilization_(2600_BCE_%E2%80%93_1900_BCE)
Architectural decoration is extremely minimal
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Archaeological_Ruins_at_Moenjodaro-108221.jpg/800px-Archaeological_Ruins_at_Moenjodaro-108221.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Other_side_of_Moenjodaro_by_Usman_Ghani.jpg/800px-Other_side_of_Moenjodaro_by_Usman_Ghani.jpg)
After Turanian diffusion:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/City_of_Kushinagar_in_the_5th_century_BCE_according_to_a_1st_century_BCE_frieze_in_Sanchi_Stupa_1_Southern_Gate.jpg/800px-City_of_Kushinagar_in_the_5th_century_BCE_according_to_a_1st_century_BCE_frieze_in_Sanchi_Stupa_1_Southern_Gate.jpg)
I find the contrast even stronger in sculpture.
Before Turanian diffusion:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/WLA_brooklynmuseum_Harappa_Miniature_Votive_Images_2.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Valle_dell%27indo%2C_barca_a_forma_di_toro%2C_periodo_kot-dijan%2C_2800-2600_ac_ca._%28coll._priv.%29_02.jpg/800px-Valle_dell%27indo%2C_barca_a_forma_di_toro%2C_periodo_kot-dijan%2C_2800-2600_ac_ca._%28coll._priv.%29_02.jpg)
After Turanian diffusion:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Indian_-_A_Votive_Figurine_-_Walters_25249_-_Three_Quarter_Left_%28cropped%29.jpg/483px-Indian_-_A_Votive_Figurine_-_Walters_25249_-_Three_Quarter_Left_%28cropped%29.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/MET_DP253249_%28cropped%29.jpg/507px-MET_DP253249_%28cropped%29.jpg)
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"I suggest using the term "IQ test score"
I see. So those who score high on IQ tests may or may not be Aryan depending on what they pursue. Those who score high on the test may merely view it as a means toward an end to obtain greater academic qualifications and thus more money, or they may view it as something worth valuing in and of itself, and hence will value the Western definition of "intelligence" and aspire toward proving the worthiness of this "intelligence" through innovation.
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Hindus argue whether their culture is a product of Steppe or Valley blood, and which part they should embrace:
https://twitter.com/blog_supplement/status/1388017869661908995?s=20
Something modern H will not like to hear: From the mahAbharata we learn that some of our founding fathers carried out mass hunts of wildlife for food (probably doubled for military training) v.similar to the Chingizid Mongols. That suggest it was possibly an old steppe thing.
https://twitter.com/Hindu_OSINT/status/1388019064816103428?s=20
Hindu OSINT
@Hindu_OSINT
Replying to
@blog_supplement
It's amazing how memories of our Nomadic past still survive even in our second generation scriptures.
https://twitter.com/ImperiumHindu/status/1388119088153579527?s=20
Hindus have history of indus valley civilization.
They are not some barbarians from steppes.
Deal with it man.
I believe there is hope for the third tweeter. While he incorrectly says in another tweet that Vedic culture is from the Indus Valley, he at least possesses enough nobility to reject steppe barbarism as "Hindu" culture. The correct narrative is to recognize that "Hindu" culture does indeed originate in the IVC as etymologically it refers to the religion practiced by the Indus people, but that Vedic culture does not, which by default makes Vedism necessarily anti-Hindu. So as a true Hindu, you should reject Vedism.
Contrast this to the Turanists who are happy to claim steppe ancestry (and to add insult to injury claim this makes them "Aryan"), and are proud of the nomadic barbarism of Vedism.
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"I believe there is hope for the third tweeter."
Then invite him here! (Your previous invitee never showed up after registering.)
"Contrast this to the Turanists who are happy to claim steppe ancestry (and to add insult to injury claim this makes them "Aryan"), and are proud of the nomadic barbarism of Vedism."
These can never be ideologically converted, but at least you should persuade them to use the correct vocabulary ie. call themselves Turanian instead of "Aryan". This will make things clearer for future newcomers to the subject.
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"your previous invitee never showed up after registering"
I just sent him a welcome message through the forum. His activism seems to be mainly in the Twittersphere, where he is bodying False Leftists left right and centre using many of our ideological talking points. Here is his latest tweet that he posted just yesterday:
https://twitter.com/taiyogakure/status/1388192270982156291?s=20
Cancel culture should be genetic, and it should prevent subhumans like Glenn Danzig from producing offspring
He seems to share all our views, but I feel he could be more effective if his talent were put to use in more effective ways. In any case, given that I am pretty active on Twitter myself, it is good to see another person who shares my views on the platform. I am still in contact with him via Twitter DM, so I will keep you posted on his status.
"These can never be ideologically converted, but at least you should persuade them to use the correct vocabulary ie. call themselves Turanian instead of "Aryan"."
I will elaborate on this more in a future post ASAP.
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"Strictly speaking, Eurocentric Turanists would believe that the Turanians who migrated west degraded less from mixing than the Turanians who migrated south did."
The casteist, racist subreddit "Bakchodi" is a good example of this. It is essentially a circle jerk of racist Indian HBDers arguing about which "race" is more "Aryan" (Turanian). Here is a post from a non-Eurocentric Turanian:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bakchodi/comments/98f0j1/comment/e4firxr?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=comment_timestamp
the yamnaya people (aryans Turanians - RP) were browner than these fag **** .
they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European . https://vgy.me/QLgU0t.jpg (face of yamnaya) Aryans Turanians- RP were mostly swarthy, dark haired and dark eyed individuals. **** lol at mayo larpers.
For the last **** time, THEY. ARE. NOT. ARYAN!!!
"I have encountered some Turanist Hindus who believe the opposite, which is their rationale for supposedly looking down on "whites": they think brahmins are purer Turanians than "whites", and won't shut up about brahmin average IQ test score (~120 ie. even higher than Jews (their emphasis)). These cannot be described as Eurocentric."
Here is a tweet from another racist Indian Turanist in which he disparages South Indians, exuding his steppe blood memory:
https://twitter.com/therajaputra/status/1386298358386417668?s=20
Because they deserve it.
Also, you're wrong. Subnarmadans with their Subsaharan blood have lower Average IQ. The civilised parts of Maharashtra are full of non-Marathis.
"Subnarmadans" apparently refers to those Indians who are located geographically south of the Narmada-Tapti basin.
More on this:
https://twitter.com/therajaputra/status/1388428930403602432?s=20
Narmada traditionally formed the boundary between Āryāvarta and Dakṣiṇapatha. Except for a few instances, South of Narmada has always been a different civilisational entity from the North and more often than not a hostile one. Languages to ethnicity they are a different people.
The Turanian definition of "Aryavarta" (meaning abode of the Aryans) was appropriated from the actual Aryans who used it to refer to their homeland and was subsequently used by the Turanians to refer to the Steppes. I will go into more detail on this in another post
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""Subnarmadans" apparently refers to those Indians who are located geographically south of the Narmada-Tapti basin."
In other words, the less Turanized ones.
https://www.draliceevans.com/post/why-are-southern-north-eastern-indian-states-more-gender-equal
Southern and North-eastern women are more likely to
survive infancy
be educated
marry later
choose their own husbands
interact more closely with their husbands
bear fewer children
own more assets
exercise more control over their dowry
socialise with friends
move more freely in their communities and
work alongside men.
In North/North-west India, women are much more constrained, and sex ratios are far higher.
Education, paid work, and age are all associated with greater economic and physical autonomy. But even if a woman completes secondary school, she is less likely to choose her husband if she lives in the North.
Region is a strong predictor of female survival, literacy, autonomy, employment, and independent mobility. A woman with the exact same household wealth/ caste/ religion will likely have more autonomy if she lives in the South.
See also:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/turanian-sexism/
The evidence is especially strong because Northeast India (which as we know is also less Turanized) behaves more like South India.
Continuing:
pastoralism was historically pervasive across North-west India, and this entrenched patriarchal norms. Pastoral societies tend to be gender segregated. Men take the herd to pasture, while women stay at home, tending newborn animals and processing milk into ghee. Men may leave for a few days, searching for new pasture. If men cannot observe women's whereabouts, they may worry about paternity, and try to control female sexuality.
Analysing societies across the world, Anke Becker finds that pre-industrial societies that were more dependent on pastoralism had stronger son preference and are more likely to believe in male superiority. These effects persist today. Women whose ancestors subsisted on pastoralism report less control over their sexuality and greater preference for sons, which is reflected in uneven sex ratios. Pastoral groups are also disproportionately patrilineal and patrilocal.
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exogamous patrilineality is pervasive across North India. As Anke Becker shows, it is strongly associated with ancestral pastoralism.
Pastoralism may have also influenced India's caste-system. Brahmins dominate business, public service, politics, the judiciary, and universities. Upper caste purity and prestige has been preserved through female seclusion, prohibiting polluting sexual access. These patriarchal norms may be rooted in ancient livelihoods. Genetic data suggests that Brahmins have some contributions from steppe pastoralists.
Which is what we have been saying all along.
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"The evidence is especially strong because Northeast India (which as we know is also less Turanized) behaves more like South India."
The theory goes that the Turanian incursion forced some of the IVC inhabitants down south, where they were able to escape having their blood polluted.
The similarity of Dravidian (South Indian) languages with the Semitic languages seems to substantiate this, as it suggests that some of the original IVC inhabitants also spoke these languages since the IVC, being a trading partner of Sumer, would have had some linguistic similarities with the Sumerian civilization.
This map also seems to support your hypothesis:
(https://trueleft.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthewire.in%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F03%2FUntitled-design.jpg&hash=5b995d03c2b3d0fc73768908d50e71a1c22d916f)
Once again you are right on the money!
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Indian politician accused of targeting Muslim Covid-19 volunteers
This Indian politician is being accused of singling out Muslim volunteers working at a Covid-19 war room in Bangalore and communalising the "bed allotment scam."
#TejaswiSurya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Q8xbnhs48
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Why are India’s Hindutva supporters backing Israel?
India’s “unwavering” support of the “just” Palestinian cause at the UN Security Council has irked the country’s Hindu nationalists. Here is why. #GazaUnderAttack #IndiaStandsWithIsrael #IndiaBacksPalestine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSMu4HEiOws
Hindutva (transl. Hinduness) is the predominant form of Hindu Nationalism in India.[1] As a political ideology, Hindutva was articulated by Vinayak Damodar Savarkar in 1923.[2] It is championed by the Hindu Nationalist volunteer organisation Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP), the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)[3][4] and other organisations, collectively called the Sangh Parivar. The Hindutva movement has been described as a variant of "right-wing extremism"[5] and as "almost fascist in the classical sense", adhering to a concept of homogenised majority and cultural hegemony.[6][7] Some analysts dispute the "fascist" label, and suggest Hindutva is an extreme form of "conservatism" or "ethnic absolutism".[8]
Hindutva was mainstreamed into Indian politics with Narendra Modi's election as Prime Minister in 2014.[5]
According to Merriam-Webster's Encyclopedia of World Religions, Hindutva is a concept of "Indian cultural, national, and religious identity".[11] The term "conflates a geographically based religious, cultural, and national identity: a true 'Indian' is one who partakes of this 'Hindu-ness'. Some Indians insist, however, that Hindutva is primarily a cultural term to refer to the traditional and indigenous heritage of the Indian nation-state, and they compare the relationship between Hindutva and India to that of Zionism and Israel."[11] This view, as summarised by Merriam-Webster's Encyclopedia of World Religions, holds that "even those who are not religiously Hindu but whose religions originated in India — Jains, Buddhists, Sikhs, and others — share in this historical, cultural, and national essence. Those whose religions were imported to India, meaning primarily the country’s Muslim and Christian communities, may fall within the boundaries of Hindutva only if they subsume themselves into the majority culture".[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindutva
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"majority culture"
In other words, democracy. Unsurprising, considering that the founder of Hindutva, Veer Savarkar, was a colonialist bootlicker:
How Did Savarkar, a Staunch Supporter of British Colonialism, Come to Be Known as 'Veer'?
https://thewire.in/history/veer-savarkar-the-staunchest-advocate-of-loyalty-to-the-english-government
At the time when Subhas Chandra Bose was raising his Indian National Army to confront the British in India, Savarkar helped the colonial government recruit lakhs of Indians into its armed forces. He further destabilised the freedom movement by pushing his Hindutva ideology, which deepened the communal divide at a time when a united front against colonial rule was needed. Post independence, Savarkar was also implicated in Mahatma Gandhi’s murder.
There was a blog called "WideAwakeGentile" (now defunct) that theorized on Savarkar's possible Jewish ancestry.
In any case, the above paragraph alone should disqualify him from speaking on Indian nationalist issues.
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Getting back to this post:
"Turanians must be thought of as anti-Indian."
To promote this first requires cultivating pride in pre-Vedic India.
I support this. But unfortunately, due to False Leftists honing in on only the negative aspects of this era (see: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/uneducable-gentiles/?message=6550 ), those with Aryan blood memory are being drawn away from it.
This is why it is important to establish the fact that agriculture (i.e. actual Aryans) developed independently in India, as opposed to merely being brought over by "Iranian agriculturalists" (i.e. accultruated/mixed Zarzians who are now correctly being referred to as "Zagrosian agriculturalists"). This would lead to the logical conclusion that the prehistoric Indians did indeed follow a vegan diet, thereby leading those who have Aryan blood memory to take pride in the era.
Recently, a paper was published that revealed the findings obtained by scientists who conducted a study on DNA extracted from a pre-Harappan Neolithic site. I will elaborate on this in the "Aryan Diffusion Part 3 Confirmed" thread.
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Muslims pressured to vacate homes near Hindu temple in India
Muslim families living near a famous #Hindu temple in India’s Uttar Pradesh state said they were forced to sign a "consent letter" to give up their homes and lands for the “safety of the temple."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5duWNgiPg8s
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Indian Employers Are Stubbornly Obsessed With Elite Students—And It's Hurting Them
Certain schools produce the best students but not the best employees.
When building up his team Jack preferred hiring people a notch or two below the top performers in their schools. The college elite, Jack explained, would easily get frustrated when they encountered the difficulties of the real world.
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/indian-employers-are-stubbornly-obsessed-with-elite-students-and-it-s-hurting-them?utm_source=pocket-newtab
In other words, you can have all the knowledge in the world and still have a terrible work ethic. If Western styled businesses had ever been serious about generating workers with excellent work ethic they would have created professional internships rather than putting value on a piece of paper given to a graduate at a Western styled university.
It has always amazed me that in the West so many professions require "experience" for an applicants resume to even be considered, yet there is often no way to gain said experience in a particular industry because there are no schools that teach it, nor are there any companies that offer internships that allow an applicant to learn it.
Since a very young age I have always been of the opinion that you can teach anyone to do anything if they really want to learn it, all intelligence and smarts aside.
Lastly, it should be obvious to most who spend the time to think about it that the Western notion of what is "elite" and what is not is also ass-backwards....
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Why India's Fair Skin Business Is Booming
India is home to Bollywood, the world's most prolific movie industry. For those who dream of stardom, landing a leading role may depend on the color of your skin. India's preference for fair skin has given rise to a skin-lightening industry worth nearly $500 million dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlOHSbf9XGI
India's preference for fair skin must be a symptom of Western colonization, no?
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Muslim family attacked and told to leave village in India
A Muslim family was attacked by a mob in India's Madya Pradesh state for allegedly refusing demands to leave their village. #India #Attack #Muslims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eq4_NQgmGQ
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An Indian Eurocentrist enemy commenter (responding to an enemy article complaining about "non-whites" in commercials):
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2021/12/16/condition-red-revisited-white-male-erasure-in-advertising/
Personally, I myself do not wish to see third-world faces in media imagery – I have an emotional aversion to it. If I wanted third-world imagery, I would move to my Brown ancestral lands, instead of living among the Europeans. If the Ashkenazim are going to be adamant about not having Europeans in visual imagery and the media, I would even accept exclusively Ashkenazi faces, since that to me is still believable given their advanced genetics. But Africans and Brown ethnicities? Not interested.
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I’m not really interested in the dynamics of Indian genetics – India has a median IQ of 80 and is highly Psychopathic, and neither the Indian government, the Brahmins, or the general population has an interest in eugenics/transhumanism. As an extremely Group Selected individual, I see no value in me personally possessing any positive genes if my entire population group can’t rise to my level and then keep on genetically ascending without limit. However, I can say that I am an extreme genetic outlier, with extreme levels of so-called “autistic” traits. In fact, I would not be surprised if among the 1.3 billion Indians, there may be no more than a few hundred like me – clearly not statistically representative of the population. Thus, for all practical purposes, Indians as a whole should be understood to be relatively hostile competitors to Europeans, not allies.
I would like his last statement to be true, but I am not so optimistic. I suspect Indian Eurocentrists actually number not in the hundreds (as he claims) but in the hundreds of millions. Recall:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg8954/#msg8954
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Hate speech and online abuse: India’s growing extremism problem | The Listening Post
Amid a spike in anti-minority hate speech, independent journalists in India uncover Hindu extremist gatherings and the truth behind a bizarre mobile app claiming to "sell" prominent Muslim women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSINHJdLDdk
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Our enemies notice it too:
https://vdare.com/articles/my-readers-american-and-indian-comment-on-the-indian-ceo-virus
“Oracle was a huge employer, even back in the early 1990s, with over 5,000 employees, and they were just beginning to sell Oracle in India,” he wrote.
He also observed that Oracle cofounder Larry Ellison is Jewish.
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the Jews and the Brahmins both hate and fear Muslims. And so Larry could rest easy, knowing that with the Brahmins in charge of hiring decisions, no Iranians—and, in fact, no Muslims, whatsoever—would be employed.
Basically, the Brahmins and the Jews discovered that they had a lot in common.
What might the commonality be?
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/turanian-diffusion/
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Debate on Indian racism against Northeasterners:
https://youtu.be/j3vbxX-i15A
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This goes back to:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/indian-attitudes/msg2159/#msg2159
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One of the panelists actually makes a good point about how Eurocentrism is both a "superiority and inferiority complex". He even specifically points out how Eurocentric Indians have no problem with "Whites" and would not dare make fun of them.
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How The Far-Right Could Cause Genocide In India | The Mehdi Hasan Show
In addition to Hungary’s Orban and France’s Le Pen, there’s another place where far-right and supremacist ideology is on the rise — and in this country, it’s become so powerful and pervasive that scholars worry about genocide. Genocide expert Gregory Stanton and award-winning journalist Rana Ayyub join Mehdi to discuss what’s going on in India and why it should frighten us all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA3gELMvuV8
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WTF??
https://youtu.be/AvutgpiNJmw
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https://www.barrons.com/articles/india-is-reluctant-to-condemn-russia-its-history-with-china-looms-large-51652132357
In the 1950s, as post-colonial independent nations, India and China had forged friendly ties based on their common opposition to imperialism. But these ties frayed as disagreements over their border surfaced. The 1960 border negotiations between Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai and Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru revealed fundamental differences in how each side viewed the border. China viewed the border as an imperialist fabrication drawn by the then British empire. Zhou wondered at the time why India, an anti-colonial country, did not reject the premise of the China-India border as an irrelevant colonial legacy. Unlike Zhou, Nehru regarded modern India as the legitimate successor to the British Indian government which had simply formalized historical borders that, in his description, had “existed since millennia.”
(https://s3.scoopwhoop.com/anj/dffr/72644469.png)
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It is the fault of the British.
There have been periods of thaws in the India-China relationship, including during the mid-2000s, when trade between the two countries increased after President Hu Jintao and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh set aside the border issue. Nonetheless, India’s threat perception of China has not changed since its post-1962 shift. This is true even though China is today India’s largest trading partner. The situation on the border remains ambiguous. Unlike the Line of Control between India and Pakistan, which is delineated by mutually accepted maps, there is no agreement on the Line of Actual Control between India and China.
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For New Delhi, the Ukraine conflict’s best-case scenario is a quick resolution that advances the emergence of a multipolar world in which both Russia and the U.S. balance a rising China. This is a fundamental reason why India is reluctant to condemn Russia, for fear of Russia perceiving India as choosing to side with the U.S., and thereby driving it into a closer relationship with China. India’s worst-case scenario may be that the U.S. would mend its relationship with China in order to sideline and contain Russia.
This should actually be India's best-case scenario, as it could then simply join the united effort to contain Russia.
New Delhi also is concerned that the Russia-created playbook in Ukraine offers China a lesson, not in relation to Taiwan as the U.S. fears, but for India’s border territories. Those who point out that Russia would not support India in the event of a war with China should understand that India would not necessarily expect it to do so. Rather, India trusts that Russia is likely to return the favor and stay neutral.
My proposal to solve the dispute:
1) China gives India everything India wants on the India-China border.
2) India a) extradites Tenzin Gyatso to China; b) sends troops to help China take back Outer Manchuria from Russia.
3) US withdraws troops from West Pacific.
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Who is Narendra Modi? - India's path to becoming a world power | DW Documentary
Many consider Narendra Modi to be the new strong man on the international stage. The right-wing nationalist has steered India's fortunes since 2014. He is the key player behind the new Indo-Pacific alliance against China.
"No power in the world can stop a country of 1.3 billion people. The 21st century will be India's century," Modi says. After six decades of the Nehru-Gandhi family’s rule, India watched a man of the people rise from the ranks of the opposition and ascend to power in 2014. Narendra Modi promised India a new beginning.
And he knows just how to keep himself center stage: He is the world’s third most followed person on Twitter. Equally adept at playing dove-like pacifist and hawkish commander in chief, Modi has a score to settle with history. He wants to restore India to its original "purity" and secure its central role in the world order. In India, he is accused of wanting to transform the world's largest democracy into an anti-Muslim, anti-liberal Hindu state.
His influence on international politics, as one the masterminds of the Indo-Pacific strategy against China, is inescapable. India has never been as powerful as it is today; domestically, it has never been as nationalistic and authoritarian. Who is Narendra Modi? What is the Hindu nationalist militia, from whose ranks he emerged? This is the story of a turning point - for India and for the world.
#documentary #dwdocumentary #Modi #India
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne9SlTQ_64M
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Anti-muslim comments: Are Muslims 'systemically harrassed' in India? | DW News
India is facing international criticism and protests after spokespersons of the ruling BJP party made derogatory comments about the Prophet Muhammad.
Gulf states and the wider Muslim world have condemned India - and some are demanding official apologies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQqa2CqRAq0
How India and Russia got so close | India's geopolitical dilemma (1/3) | DW Analysis
India is under massive pressure to break relations with Russia over the war in Ukraine. But can it afford to do so – and does it even want to?
In Part 1 of “India’s Choice,” a special series on India’s geopolitical dilemmas, DW’s Richard Walker explains the longstanding friendship between India and Russia – a relationship built on weapons, technology, and diplomacy.
Now with Moscow at war and building closer ties to Beijing, there are growing calls within Delhi itself for a serious rethink. Featuring interviews with Jay Panda, Vice President of India’s ruling BJP, Shashi Tharoor of the opposition Congress, Lisa Curtis, former Senior Director, US National Security Council, Garima Mohan of the German Marshall Fund, and Alexey Kupriyanov of IMEMO, Moscow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ASkO-f0wFM
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The rise of hate speech in India | The Listening Post
India is at a dangerous moment.
The voices of Hindutva - Hindu supremacy - are ascending, spreading division and hate speech. It has worked its way through the body politic like a slow-acting poison. And the effect on the secular fabric of the Indian republic and the lives of minorities - especially Muslims - has proven toxic, at times deadly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ovHqv_k-g
How The Far-Right Could Cause Genocide In India | The Mehdi Hasan Show
In addition to Hungary’s Orban and France’s Le Pen, there’s another place where far-right and supremacist ideology is on the rise — and in this country, it’s become so powerful and pervasive that scholars worry about genocide. Genocide expert Gregory Stanton and award-winning journalist Rana Ayyub join Mehdi to discuss what’s going on in India and why it should frighten us all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA3gELMvuV8
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Breaking Bones to Grow Taller in India | Deadly Beauty
42-year-old Mukesh from India is going to break his legs to grow taller.
Mukesh will be operated on using the Ilizarov method, which had been used in the past to correct limb deformity. Now, It is popular among those who want a cosmetic height increase.
6 weeks later, he is having second thoughts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AomPemsgjmg
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We need to promote this!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rural-indians-join-rush-study-033322461.html
AMBALA/SYDNEY/TORONTO (Reuters) - When 19-year-old Sachin failed to score the grades he needed to get into a good Indian college, his father, a small shopkeeper, took a loan and dug deep into the family savings to help him secure a Canadian student visa.
The 2 million rupees ($25,035) they scraped together covered the fees for English language tuition provided by Western Overseas, one of dozens of visa consultancies in Ambala, about 250km from of New Delhi, that promise better lives through study overseas.
"My dream is to settle abroad as I see no future in India," said Sachin, who uses only a single name. He now plans to fly to Canada where he hopes to complete a two-year diploma in business management and eventually secure a longer work visa.
While middle-class Indians have for decades sought better prospects in other countries, worsening economic conditions are now driving families from poorer rural areas like Sachin's to make big investments to set up new lives for their children overseas.
Sachin says his two friends now in Canada earn about C$1,200 ($918) a month through part-time work while studying for diplomas.
With many countries now lifting COVID restrictions, the number of Indian students heading to places like the United States, Canada, Australia, UK, Ireland and New Zealand was almost one million in early 2022, roughly doubling from pre-pandemic levels, according to government and industry estimates.
The numbers need to be far higher. Global warming isn't going to wait. 25 million students leaving per year would be more like it (see below).
In Sydney, Catriona Jackson, chief executive of Universities Australia, said more than 76,000 Indian students were now pursuing education in Australia, which is expected to accelerate after both countries signed a bilateral trade pact this year.
Many are applying for short courses in Canada and Australia driven by increasingly bleak job prospects at home and as Western governments loosen immigration requirements to fill university and job vacancies.
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DAZZLING PROSPECTS
Several foreign universities and their local partners are organising education fairs at costly five-star hotels and through virtual sessions in small towns to woo students.
At one such event, over 500 students gathered recently to explore opportunities with over 40 universities from Australia and Canada at a luxury hotel in Chandigarh, about 40 km from Ambala.
Gagandeep Singh, a small businessman from nearby Dera Bassi town, came with his daughter, who has received offers from some Australian universities.
"I have zeroed in on the University of Canberra, from where my sister has done Masters in Pharmacy," said Jashandeep Kaur, Singh's daughter, citing women's safety and career prospects as her main considerations.
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"We publish our success stories on Facebook and other platforms," said Bhupesh Sharma, marketing head of Western Overseas, which has expanded to nine major cities in northern India and sent nearly a thousand students overseas.
"We aim to send about 5,000 students abroad this year," said Pradeep Baliyan, its founder, adding they had also opened branches in Australia and Canada offering job placement services.
With over 300 million students in school and growing numbers seeking higher education, India is struggling to provide enough college spots and jobs for its young.
Dividing 300 million by 10 years means ~30 million graduates per year. ~25 million students emigrating per year would be a good start. (Of course non-students should also try to emigrate via other avenues.)
PULL FACTOR
Indeed, many Western nations can't reopen fast enough after two painful years of pandemic travel restrictions starved their economies of foreign labour and universities of full fee-paying international students.
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"The ease of securing permanent residency has become a big draw for Indian students rushing to Canada," Rahul Oswal, the founder of consultancy Wisdom Overseas, said.
Compared with the UK and the United States, Canada's post-graduate work and residency programmes are much more flexible, he added.
Yes, but Canada doesn't have nukes, does it? Still, I suppose migrating to Canada first and then migrating again to the US/UK later is a possibility.
Many comments are on board with emgration:
The number was almost one million in early 2022, but in a few years it will reach more than five million annually as more realize the futility of having a decent standard of living in India.
India students go as far to Ukraine and Yemen. They must understand, that there chances of getting a job in India is 0.
The attraction of foreign university education is not just the opportunity to settle down abroad but also the opportunity to sponsor the entire family to migrate !!!
In many communities in states like Punjab, Andhra Pradesh, Gujarat.. young men face a lot of pressure to try hard to go abroad - anywhere - because if they don't, no bride will want to marry them !!!
Finally, recall:
http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/anti-zionist-harvest-antwerp-edition/
This is what we can look forward to more of so long as we keep the emigrant flow going.
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Why you not encourage the migrations to autocratic nations like China, Iran and North Korea while you promoting migrations to the democratic nations. So, this forum's theory that autocratic nations are better on handling the immigrants and refugees are proven to be true?
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Anyone who wants to migrate to autocracies should be allowed to do so. But migration of non-demos future voters into democracies with non-demos suffrage is most useful for shifting policy outcomes leftwards:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/demographic-blueshift/
More good news reported by our enemies:
https://www.amren.com/news/2022/09/indians-now-own-more-real-estate-in-london-than-the-english/
More real estate in London is owned by Indian proprietors than by the native English population, a new study has revealed.
According to the London-based property developer Barratt London, English property owners are the second-biggest group in their own capital, sandwiched between Pakistani proprietors below and Indian property owners at the top.
Indian investors, both living in the U.K. and abroad, are reportedly willing to spend between £290,000-450,000 (€335,000-520,000) for one-, two-, or three-bedroom apartments in the U.K. capital.
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“They’re eager to invest in the U.K. residential market because they are getting better returns owing to the exchange rates and market presence presently,” Leslie said. “It is relatively a safer market in comparison to the UAE or India.”
Of course, I would advise Indian (and Pakistani) investors to buy properties outside of London also. Farmland would be an especially wise purchase.
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https://us.yahoo.com/news/india-observes-day-mourning-queen-095257583.html
NEW DELHI (AP) — India on Sunday observed a day of mourning for Queen Elizabeth II with flags lowered to half-staff on all government buildings.
Official entertainment events were also canceled “as a mark of respect to the departed dignitary,” the Ministry of Home Affairs said.
Flags atop Indian Parliament, President House, Red Fort and other government offices in New Delhi were lowered.
At least the comments are woke:
what is wrong with the Indian officials?! This is so wrong on so many level. Honoring colonizer who treated our own people as second class citizen on our own soil, looted our treasure, starved our people.
This is a shame.
Remarkable, considering the degree to which the Indians suffered under Great Britain..!
Majority of these folks are unbelievably desperate to get a drop of affirmation from a westerner. No backbone, no unity, betcha if England were to go back to india that they could conquer the 1.4 billion in matter of 6months.
We love being slaves to white skin !
Why do you think bill gates and google selected Indian ? Cause in the end they would never turn against them like another white dude would have . Usually the new CEO even throws away older ceos furniture even if it was bought hurst weeks ago , but Indian CEO always following behind the older CEO’s like a lost puppy
Respect those who looted India and kept them as slaves. Nah
right on - slaves forever -- criminal British LOVE it bebe -- bingo
I feel sorry for India, It still has slave mentality . African didn't declared any mourning .
And Mr 56 and his BJP declared 1 day mourning . Shame on u BJP and RSS and Mr 56
This is stupid India will not honour its own Heroes but they will declare one day mourn of queen Elizabeth. Monarchy who ruled India destroy India Looted India Kill millions of people but we will mourn of her death Shame to India.
are you kidding? ask them to return the loot instead.
Bad move, when the British ruled India, The ruled with the iron fist, even killed many Indians.. The indian's seem to be forgetting their history..
British **** and looted India and yet they are mourning for "Queen Elizabeth II". It is shameful when a country forgets its history and its enemies.
Indian have no spine ,no principle .
Indian are full of talk. They always want a bargain --Cos Talk is cheap.
Just proved India love the Brits colonizer--
India Should Change the Independent Day to TGBD-.
--Thanks Giving Briton Day.
Sad, but expected of spineless India !
Once an Indian, always a slave to white skin !
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16th-century mosque in India demolished to ‘widen the road’
Shahi Masjid, a 16th-century mosque in India’s Uttar Pradesh state, has been demolished — reportedly to "widen the road." Authorities claim the mosque was constructed on "encroached government land."
#UttarPradesh #ShahiMasjid #mosques
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b66lqGRWRUI
Comment:
Thank you lot of to TRT World
To showing injustice of BJP Modi
This is done by Modi and BJP
Ya Allah Help Us in this difficult time
One in other in the list of countless
Animals, im eating a nice juicy steak in Modi honor
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Alot of Indian's are very Islamophobic, they are also very willing and receptive to being eurocentrized.
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Alot of Indian's are very Islamophobic, they are also very willing and receptive to being eurocentrized.
Even their party BJP make a good relationship with Israel. No surprise. Hindhu Indians are more friendly towards evil westerners rather than Islamized Indians. This is proving Islamic superiority above all kind of religions and philosophies. No every single religion which order its followers to against Western Civilization other than Islam
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Indian PM Narendra Modi ‘directly’ responsible for the 2002 Gujarat massacre of Muslims
“Systematic campaign of violence has all the hallmarks of ethnic cleansing.”
A BBC investigation claims that Indian PM Narendra Modi held “direct responsibility” for the 2002 massacre of Muslims in the country’s Gujarat state.
Nearly 2,000 people, a majority of whom were Muslims, were reportedly killed by a Hindu mob when Modi was Gujarat’s chief minister in 2002.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L2Nws_atCU
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The prick Modi need's to be eliminated.
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This is proving Islamic superiority above all kind of religions and philosophies. No every single religion which order its followers to against Western Civilization other than Islam
Judeo Islam and national socialism/Hitlerism as well.
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Continuing about north vs south India, while it is true that there is an intrinsic anti-Turanian undercurrent to the anti-North attitude in South India, this has unfortunately been coopted by some chauvinistic bigots, calling themselves "Dravidian nationalists", who consider all Hindi speakers to be Northerners and hence hostile to the South. This ignores the fact that there are many Hindi speakers even in the South. More importantly, this bigotry, as expressed in states such as Tamil Nadu, often targets even fellow Dravidian speakers from other Dravidian states such as Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh, so it is not even Pan-Dravidian as one would think. This ideology is primarily pushed by False Leftist secular humanist progressivist Eurocentrist Gentiles who suffer from some sort of inferiority complex and think "Dravidian" is a race, similar to how Eurocentrist "Blacks" think.
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Also, on the topic of Turanian blood memory, you mentioned earlier that it is possible for non-Eurocentrist "non-Whites" to be Westerners, especially those who have Turanian blood. But these Westerners would be rightists and not False Leftists, right?
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Firstly, responding to:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/facial-turanism/msg17480/#msg17480
Is Bollywood run by Crypto Jews/Turanians? What do you think?
After all, Bollywood has a history of negatively stereotyping/bigotry against South Indians.
But South Indian cinema does the same thing to itself!
https://www.quora.com/What-can-we-as-audience-do-to-promote-more-Tamil-heroines-like-Ramya-Pandian-Priya-Bhavani-and-Dhansika-instead-of-casting-Malayali-and-North-Indian-heroines
“Don’t play under hot sun, you’ll get dark” - mom to daughter, “Your face looks dark, try this herbal facial” - conversation between female friends. “ Boy or girl , fair or dark” - conversation between family during childbirth. All these are natural casual conversation that happens everywhere in India without realising it's impact. It’s not about Tamil heroine, it’s about brown skin tone. You’re demanding a cultural change, not an industry preference. We’re ready to accept Amy Jackson as “tamil ponnu” in a saree but not PBS or Dhansika.
Racism and colorism are interconnected, the structural hierarchy places lighter skin on top compared to brown skin.
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Skin color is used as a significant factor to differentiate the characterisation of different roles in Tamil cinema. Casting patterns and dialogues are color coded. This is nothing but racialised skin based hierarchy that exists in society
I agree with this. It is just pervasive Eurocentrism.
If you want to promote Tamil heroines - then promote Tamil skin tone among the society, treat them normal , redefine beauty standards, and celluloid will automatically follow.
Yes, but these very peope who call for redefining beauty standards aren't actually doing so! Yes, Jackson looks subhuman for sure:
(https://i.ndtvimg.com/i/2016-06/amy-jackson_640x480_41466081839.jpg)
but, the problem is, so do Pandian, Bhavani and Dhansika:
(https://www.breezemasti.com/wp-content/uploads/Ramya-Pandian-Actress-biography-age-family-husband-wiki.jpg)
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P2qkxAMrTgc/WZFzbzntziI/AAAAAAAANAE/T5LAMb8nFYkVssOwbcfJ2Usx-USxTMm8QCLcBGAs/s1600/20309_837082136370435_806965673230904880_n.jpg)
(https://nettv4u.com/imagine/tamil-actress-dhansika-latest-stills-12.jpg)
so promoting the latter, while it may be a decolonizing action, is no genuine improvement aesthetically! The only approach which will work is precisely the approach we have developed.
"while it is true that there is an intrinsic anti-Turanian undercurrent to the anti-North attitude in South India, this has unfortunately been coopted by some chauvinistic bigots, calling themselves "Dravidian nationalists""
The correct approach to anti-Turanism in India is to promote nostalgia for pre-Turanian Indus Valley civilization. However, the geographical location of Indus Valley civilization is itself in the northwest:
(https://myancientindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Indus-Valley-Civilization-Map-1024x579.jpg)
therefore Indian anti-Turanism should never have been categorically anti-north in the first place. Instead, we should claim that any good stuff in the north comes from Indus Valley civilization (as opposed to coming from the Vedics).
"Also, on the topic of Turanian blood memory, you mentioned earlier that it is possible for non-Eurocentrist "non-Whites" to be Westerners, especially those who have Turanian blood. But these Westerners would be rightists and not False Leftists, right?"
In theory, that would be the tendency. Of course, dealing with individuals, other influences could override this.
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"But South Indian cinema does the same thing to itself!"
This could be attributed to Gentile Eurocentrism among the broader populace. In the north, however, I believe there is a Turanian element to this.
"therefore Indian anti-Turanism should never have been categorically anti-north in the first place."
But in the present-day context, as you have pointed out, the North is more Turanized than the South. So would you say this attitude is something that we could capitalize on?
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"But in the present-day context, as you have pointed out, the North is more Turanized than the South. So would you say this attitude is something that we could capitalize on?"
Sure, but acknowledging that the North was not inferior to the South until the Vedics arrived.
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Also, I hate the linguistic chauvinism of Dravidianism. Yes, I agree that Indo-Aryan languages are more Turanized (Hindi has gendered nouns) than Dravidian languages, but that doesn't mean the speakers themselves are Turanians! Languages are learned, not inherited.
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"Indo-Aryan"
Please do not use this term. Use "PIE-derivative".
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Ok. But what would you say is the solution to this linguistic chauvinism?
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It is true that languages are learned, not inherited, but when someone knows multiple languages, which language they then prefer could indicate something about their blood memory. For example, if someone claims Hindi is superior for the very reason that it has gendered nouns, that individual can be labelled by us as inferior with certainty. This is very different from claiming that Hindi-speakers in general are inferior.
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Looking through Indian history, it seems Brahminism/casteism remained relatively low after the infusion of Sramanist ethics into Hinduism. But it seems that British colonialism has reinvigorated this sentiment. Previously I thought this was because of Eurocentrism, but as you have pointed out, Turanian supremacism is not heritably Eurocentric. For example, as you mentioned earlier, there are some Brahmins who claim that they are superior to non-Brahmins (including Whites) because of their IQ test scores. This is because the economic system of the colonial era afforded those with high IQ test scores high positions in the colonial bureaucracy. While some simply accepted these positions out of economic necessity, opportunistic Brahmins, particularly those with steppe blood memory, saw it as a way to gain tribal dominance and express their Turanian blood more profusely.
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https://twitter.com/VatsRishap/status/1576181185176563714?s=20&t=VUL2fRr45ldSgvy_1uHq9Q
Rishap Vats
@VatsRishap
Discovered a subset of Indian Twitter where conservatives, who are too tired of the extreme manifestation of 'decoloniality', become borderline apologists for the colonial overlords, displaying a very unhealthy level of nostalgia for the Raj, in particular the Victorian era.
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Some good awareness in that thread:
https://twitter.com/laajardni/status/1576201475893604353
Indians often don't realize how deeply have Victorian morality standards impacted our psyche. We today find a lot of things immoral not because of our traditions but how Victorian Brit scholars' interpreted them.
On the other hand, the following narrative is extremely troubling:
I think they may be admirers (or blind admirers) of British "Ingenuity," not British Raj. They forget that Islamic invasion ensured that India was in no position to be a centre of excellence.
This makes it sound like a proposition that, in absence of the Dehli Sultanate, Mughal Empire, etc., India would have industrialized sooner than Britain, and that this would have been a good thing! This also implies that Britain is not to blame for anything it did with the power it gained from industrialization, and instead to blame are the ones who sidetracked India from (supposedly) doing the same even sooner!
I personally do not believe that India minus Islam would have industrialized sooner than Britain, but for the sake of argument, if I did believe this, that would be all the more reason to thank Islam for keeping India away from the mistake of industrialization! We should only be sad that Britain was not also Islamized (and hence also kept away from the same mistake).
Fundamentally, the problem with this kind of narrative is that, instead of seeing modernity as something that was never meant to exist (and thus Western civilization as a unique defiler of the world), it sees modernity as something inevitable (and thus Western civilization merely as the one which attained first what everyone was actually trying to attain all along). This latter mindset will never hate Western civilization because you cannot hate something if you fantasize about becoming that same thing.
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https://ilearntamil.com/gender-and-number/
Plants , animals and other living things
Gender ( பால்)
Tamil language has only the natural gender ( only for human beings ) unlike other languages like Hindi which has grammatical genders.In human , Tamil language has Masculine and Feminine genders.All non-human nouns are referred in neutral gender except for animals like காளை ( bull ) and பசு ( cow ).
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https://twitter.com/TheEmissaryCo/status/1456487304646832129?s=20&t=8ba8poC0lJ4yTmOC4f12Zw
The Emissary
@TheEmissaryCo
Brahmins who unironically identify with the steppe and Dalits who think they are the aboriginals of the subcontinent are honestly made for each other.
2 sides of the same chutiya.
Leave the rest of us alone. We want nothing to do with your LARPing coping mechanisms. #WeWuz
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Followed with:
Instead just stfu and lift a barbell.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/284/709/7ae.png)
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Both the Steppe blood memory rightists and the aboriginal blood memory False Leftists will mock the Aryan vegetarian diet as "unhealthy", "high carb", "low protein" etc. But these descriptions are only applicable to subhumans. Of course, this does not mean that everyone who does not have Aryan metabolism is non-Aryan, but those who put down the Aryan diet for these reasons definitely are. Among those with non-Aryan metabolism, there are still people who adopt veganism as it is the ethically superior choice, and hence they cannot be called non-Aryan.
Getting to the point, this guy's "do you even lift brah" comment is most likely a reaction to this attitude, and is an attempt to prove vegetarians are aesthetically "superior" by building their physique. This of course is a False Left attitude, as the True Left attitude is to simply reject the Western definition of "superiority" altogether.
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Indian rightist says Indian women are not bad looking, but that on average, "White" women are better looking than Indians:
Frontier Indica
@frontierindica
The problem is not that they're dark. The problem is that the average Indian woman looks nothing even close to even a single of these images
AASI Ram Bapu
@bimaruneet
Replying to
@frontierindica(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmBV2_HaMAY9lQ4?format=jpg&name=small)
Don't know if this is a Eurocentric attitude tbh. A Eurocentrist would claim that darker-skinned women are inferior to lighter skinned women, period.
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Boromor Syndrome Turanist Indian vs Aryanist:
https://twitter.com/vakibs/status/1482444653978963971?s=20&t=WpF1AMvdnyUs1b6Gj7odOA
vakibs
@vakibs
I wish all Indians revert to the native Indian understanding of what "Ārya way" is: Ārya Dharma is to follow the Ṛta, the cosmic cycle. Making space for themselves by genociding people is the Mlēccha way, not the Ārya way.
Ārya and Ṛta are both derived from the root ऋ गतिकरणे.
Kshatriya 4 Dharma
@Kanishka4Kushan
>they made space for themselves and ruled the world
Literally the Arya way
https://twitter.com/vakibs/status/1482272493293514753?s=20&t=WpF1AMvdnyUs1b6Gj7odOA
vakibs
@vakibs
British used chemical and biological weapons, assassination of competitors, ecological denuding by exterminating plant and animal species needed for indigenous people, and every other Adharma. By artificial famines and genocide, they made space for themselves and ruled the world.
https://twitter.com/AgentSaffron/status/1481608553098055692?s=20&t=WpF1AMvdnyUs1b6Gj7odOA
V
@AgentSaffron
British were clever, brave, adventurous, industrious, methodical, meticulous, curious, comprehensive, pragmatic, far sighted people.
That's how they went from remote poor island tribes to rulers of half the world.
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"Boromor Syndrome"
I assume you mean Boromir Syndrome. What you posted is not an example of Boromir Syndrome, however. Boromir Syndrome would be saying it is bad for the British to have those characteristics, but good for Indians to have those exact same characteristics.
"Don't know if this is a Eurocentric attitude tbh."
It is. I explained this here:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg199/#msg199
The following is what goes on inside Eurocentric minds. When you tell them to imagine a generic "white" person, they automatically imagine an aesthetically idealized "white" person. Whereas when you tell them to imagine a generic [insert "non-white" ethnicity here] person, they automatically imagine an aesthetically mediocre [insert "non-white" ethnicity here] person. In other words, they let an idealized stereotype represent their image of "whites" in general, and mediocre stereotypes represent their image of "non-whites" in general. Once this double-standard is in place, then when they see average/below-average "white" people in real-life, they perceive merely flawed versions of the idealized "white" stereotype (therefore still fundamentally beautiful in their minds). Whereas when they see above-average "non-white" people in real-life, they perceive either merely upgrades of the mediocre [insert "non-white" ethnicity here] stereotype (therefore still fundamentally ugly in their minds), or - worse - partial resemblance to the idealized "white" stereotype (therefore beautiful in their minds, but only because they "look white"(!!!), instead of realizing that the beauty comes from resemblance to the ideal, not resemblance to the "whiteness", and it is Eurocentrism which spuriously superposed the "whiteness" over the ideal inside their own minds).
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"Boromor Syndrome"
Typo, sorry.
". Whereas when they see above-average "non-white" people in real-life, they perceive either merely upgrades of the mediocre [insert "non-white" ethnicity here] stereotype (therefore still fundamentally ugly in their minds), or - worse - partial resemblance to the idealized "white" stereotype (therefore beautiful in their minds, but only because they "look white"(!!!)"
The tweeter is an example of the former. However, they do not view them as "still fundamentally ugly" (as evidenced by their ambivalence towards darker skin), but merely a rarity. This could be a Turanist attitude as well, as the Turanist would view the average Indian as being far removed from the ideal Turanian phenotype. But by the same token, they should apply this standard toward "Europe". Then again, if we consider that "Europe" is more Turanized, then their criticism of Indians makes sense.
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"Boromir Syndrome would be saying it is bad for the British to have those characteristics, but good for Indians to have those exact same characteristics."
Ok, but not necessarily a Eurocentric attitude though, right? Seems like a Nietzschean attitude tbh.
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"not necessarily a Eurocentric attitude though, right?"
Originally, the concept of Boromir Syndrome was for describing non-Jewish "whites" who claimed to be anti-Jewish but who promoted emulating Jewish tribalism.
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https://twitter.com/endianzamasu/status/1621138099916136449
Gladiated Rust cohle
@endianzamasu
Replying to
@frontierindica
Proud of our ancestors
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn9wgbRakAAiiC-?format=jpg&name=360x360)
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The tweet you posted was in response to OIT which is also wrong (and is basically the equivalent of Wakandism):
https://twitter.com/frontierindica/status/1621135674190725120
"The Out of India theory (OIT) is a controversial alternative to the Aryan invasion theory and proposes that the Indus Valley Civilization was the birthplace of the Vedic religion, which is the basis of Hinduism.
You should reply over there with our solution to this false dichotomy.
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Actuallly, the tweeter themselves was not promoting OIT, but merely reposting what ChatGPT had said about it. As for the tweeter themselves, they make it very clear that they do not believe in OIT, but instead believe in "A"IT (aka Turanian diffusion).:
https://twitter.com/frontierindica/status/1620434062010900485
Aryans did trickle in tho. We should be proud of our ancestors building civilization in this shithole and subduing+absorbing the natives.
https://twitter.com/akshai1993/status/1620430441118568450
After bogus Aryans 'trickling in' theory, this new crackpot theory of Shakyans who are explicitly mentioned in Buddhist texts as being Suryavamsha Kshatriyas of Ayodhya actually being steppe Scythians is gaining popularity in the academia.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnzrXmqaIAEOkzw?format=jpg&name=900x900)
There is a bunch of other stuff on his TL where he denigrates average Indians for their IQ scores, speaks glowingly about Westerners, etc... Best we can do is reclaim "Aryan" from him. We can start by telling him how Suryavanshi Aryans are different from Chandravanshi Turanians
Although, the reply to his tweet gives a more charitable interpretation of what he means by "trickling in", its still a wrong view nevertheless, as it refers to Turanians as "Aryans":
https://twitter.com/chandraseniya/status/1620779534089060353?s=20&t=96_P-PClr2KeA2e1wUWLPQ
IVC was not a shithole.. if you're implying the Aryans to have entered later on.
https://twitter.com/Redpilldbrahmin/status/1620780053331337218?s=20&t=96_P-PClr2KeA2e1wUWLPQ
He was talking about the land and the natives (onges) perhaps?
Also by the time aryans arrived IVC had collapsed and its ppl had lost the capacity to rebuild those cities or hell even have proper wirting system, literature, science etc.
Aryans started from the scratch
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The problem with OIT is that it is still pro-Vedism, but merely wants to claim it is indigenous. So basically we have two groups of pro-Vedics (OITs and Turan-worshippers) who academically disagree with where Vedism came from (India or Turan).
What you need to insert into the discussion is a Vedism-bashing perspective that academically agrees with the Turan-worshippers that Vedism came from Turan, thereby allowing a pre-corrupt India to be imagined by those who never liked Vedism anyway.
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I agree, but the influence of Vedic culture on Hinduism is so enormous that IMO it would require a complete overhaul of Hinduism. Of course, I expect those with Aryan blood memory will side with us. BTW, take a look at this Turanist Hindu, praising Turanian Western architecture:
https://twitter.com/AASI_Amsha/status/1620982174219640834?s=20&t=2hc_y0fk1c3-FWvsVBRIig
This is the spiritual center of the world's most powerful religion looks like.
Hindus need to shed off the feel good mentality they've internalized that beauty doesnt matter. It absolutely does.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn7iqEgaEAAhia3?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn7irAWakAEEL5S?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn7isKFaQAApcuC?format=jpg&name=small)
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Hindus need to shed off the feel good mentality they've internalized that beauty doesnt matter. It absolutely does.
Here is the problem: these Hindus think they must claim that beauty doesn't matter in order to not be Eurocentrists, which already tells us what they actually consider to be beautiful.
What we need are anti-Eurocentrists who agree that beauty does matter but who are able to perceive that:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/
Continuing:
This is the spiritual center of the world's most powerful religion looks like.
Anyone who honestly thinks serious Christianity can happen inside the above architecture knows nothing about Christianity. Serious Christianity happened inside architecture that looked like this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Qu%C3%A9ribus016.JPG/576px-Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Qu%C3%A9ribus016.JPG)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Cucugnan_Queribus_AL08.jpg/576px-Cucugnan_Queribus_AL08.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/P1100589Queribus_cave.JPG/800px-P1100589Queribus_cave.JPG)
And guess what? Sramanist architecture has a similar aesthetic to Cathar architecture!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Thanale_Caves.jpg/800px-Thanale_Caves.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Ambivali_Caves.jpg/800px-Ambivali_Caves.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/061_Cave_4%2C_Side_View_%2834280359075%29.jpg/800px-061_Cave_4%2C_Side_View_%2834280359075%29.jpg)
This also brings me back to what I was trying to say to you over here:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/facial-aryanism/msg17624/#msg17624
They also go well with undecorative and even dilapidated architecture, as demonstrated in the video above (e.g. 3:53 the worn concrete and faded paint in the background). Aryan beauty is austere beauty.
You should try to build on this concept more. Imagine what the archetypical occupants of the above Sramanist caves look like.
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On that note, our enemies seem to be more optimistic about Hinduism than us, or at least than myself:
https://twitter.com/boosterdose916/status/1609900620865052673?s=20&t=2hc_y0fk1c3-FWvsVBRIig
Hasidic Hindu
@boosterdose916
Replying to
@shrikanth_krish
Don't you think they are doing it because they feel this irrepressible need to revive the spirit of an ancient war religion? Modern Hinduism feels more like Neolithic Agrarian Cult than Steppe War Religion
BTW, note the profile name of the tweeter.
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Our old enemy Bhandari (from the previous forum) is back and rambling on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/JayantBhandari5/status/1617377567111249920?cxt=HHwWgIDQtf-UivIsAAAA
Jayant Bhandari
@JayantBhandari5
There is a reason. Western civilization has been the ONLY civilization. East Asia copied the West and became a civilization. The Third World, including India, has never been a civilization and failed to copy western ways even when those were served on a silver platter.
https://twitter.com/JayantBhandari5/status/1617377567111249920?s=20&t=AaypLzGpX8bR_MkhiXOHyQ
Pratiksha
@PratikshaJamwal
Replying to
@JayantBhandari5
Brown sepoys are more concerned / worried about their ideological masters' societies. Gazbe hai!
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Of course, history is not rightists' strongest suit:
(https://commons.princeton.edu/mg/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Ancient_Civilizations_of_the_Old_World_3500_to_after_600_BCE.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/TheEmissaryCo/status/1603593831965786114
Indians who use 82 IQ & pajeet jibes at other Indians to differentiate yourself from *them* - TF you think you are some Nordic-Han hybrid? Have you looked in a mirror?
I think it is more of a desire to distance themselves from Indians than to feel closer to "Whites" tbh.
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Among the replies:
https://twitter.com/BlackSh20965850/status/1603645366888456193
Are Brahmins not on par with ashkenazi jews?
::)
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Couldn't have said it better myself:
https://twitter.com/tuffimitten/status/1619655880689192961
MN_shrmn
@tuffimitten
Why does history have to be a constant dick measuring competition ?
Even otherwise quite a stretch, what without a single piece of literature attributable to the IVC - compared to the vast amounts available for Mesopotamian and Egyptian civilizations
Harappan Civilization was superior to other contemporary civilizations in the sense that, it focused more on the quality of life of its people, rather than showing religious or imperial fanaticism!
Yet, its expanse was the biggest, of all the known Bronze Age Civilizations! and
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fnn511WaUAAd0Xw?format=jpg&name=large)
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Twitter account "Arya Amsha" exposed as degenerate racist and homophobe:
https://twitter.com/redactedaryamsa?lang=en
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl6YpgjXwAADJqY?format=jpg&name=large)
"samlaingik vivah" = homosexual marriage
"kaale" = black
Keep in mind this guy was the one who published this study: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aryan-diffusion-part-3-confirmed/?message=17602. It is clear this account is an Indian Turanist trying to claim Turanians as "Aryan".
https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1611315105618350084
Aryāṃśa
@arya_amsha
R1a1a = Steppe Aryan
J2, L1a, G2, R2 = Indus Valley
J1 = West Asian/Arab
C1b = AASI
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Also, here is a tweet that I think stood out:
https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1616516542325460992
Aryāṃśa
@arya_amsha
Big fan of the Indus Valley and all, but the lack of literature from it means there is nothing for me to relate to. I have zero cultural/religious attachment to it. Who were these people, what did they believe in, what were their stories? Just gone in the sands of time.
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I think this is one of the reasons why even those with Aryan blood memory (not including Arya Amsha) are disconnected from pre-Vedic India.
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I theorize that Indian Islamophobia is largely misguided anti-Turanism:
https://twitter.com/dharma__vijaya/status/1619398710550749184?cxt=HHwWgIDTwYOjofksAAAA
Vijay
@dharma__vijaya
Accurate depiction of the invaders from Central Asia. Mughals, even those born in India were crystal clear in their proclamations that they were foreigners. They considered themselves racially and religiously superior.
Madhav Kohli
@mvdhav
16/ BABUR
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnX_I18akAE_la_?format=jpg&name=medium)
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If anti-Turanism is the underlying motivation, there should be a positive correlation between Indian Islamophobia and Indian anti-Vedism. Is this the case?
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Hmm, this does not seem to necessarily be the case. Upon further inspection, it seems the biggest Islamophobes are secular degenerates who like Hinduism because it is supposedly more liberal, and right-wing traditionalists who dislike Islam because it is universalist, as they themselves are tribalists. There does seem to be anti-Turanist component, however, but this is mostly from (non-rightist) traditionalists, who associate Islam with central asian barbarism and Koranic fundamentalism. However, these Hindus are a minority.
BTW:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babur#Background
Babur hailed from the Barlas tribe, which was of Mongol origin and had embraced Turkic[22] and Persian culture.[23] They had also converted to Islam centuries earlier and resided in Turkestan and Khorasan. Aside from the Chaghatai language, Babur was equally fluent in Persian, the lingua franca of the Timurid elite.[24] Some of Babur's relatives, such as his uncle Mahmud Khan (Moghul Khan) and Ahmad Khan, continued to identify as Mongols, who loaned their nephews with Mongol troops to help him recover his fortunes in the turbulent years that followed.[25]
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Wrong way to combat Eurocentrism
https://twitter.com/AASI_Amsha/status/1630264027510362112?s=20
Globalist Front for Modernization & Anglicization
@AASI_Amsha
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People tell me I have no self respect as a bhosadpillar but I have huge self respect. I love brown women. If I was put in charge of the propaganda division of Indian government I would be an Indian Goebbels and remove all skin colour associated inferiority complex of Indians.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp_ceKKaQAABoZL?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp_cen_akAIh8Bm?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp_cfFJakAYkGx0?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp_cfcGacAE5jIV?format=jpg&name=large)
Of course, this fails as expected:
https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1630518278350331905?s=20
Replying to
@AASI_Amsha
Have you noticed you need to post half naked women to make men lusty to portray dark brown/black skin as attractive. With fair or wheatish women, you can just post pictures of them in modest sarees and they will be seen as beautiful and pure.
It's not because of their skin color that the dark-skinned women, such as those in the photograph, can only be portrayed as "attractive" by making men lusty. It's because of their face shapes! If anything, this reveals the inferior taste of the original tweeter, as he chose to showcase the most subhuman phenotypes of dark-skinned Indians instead of Aryan ones.
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"It's not because of their skin color that the dark-skinned women, such as those in the photograph, can only be portrayed as "attractive" by making men lusty. It's because of their face shapes!"
And yet light-skinned women with similarly subhuman face shapes do not need to be half-naked.....
"instead of Aryan ones."
You should post some for contrast.
These guys trying to help also got it wrong:
https://twitter.com/IgnorantBoh/status/1630529259365335041
https://twitter.com/_Vadhak/status/1629181878271082496
Can you do better?
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"And yet light-skinned women with similarly subhuman face shapes do not need to be half-naked....."
Yup:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uqYu_WoFEiU/maxresdefault.jpg)
"Can you do better?"
It is very difficult to find them tbh. This is why even those with Aryan blood memory are susceptible to Eurocentrism. Despite phenotypes like the above (which they will agree is unnatractive), those with Aryan blood memory still tend to associate dark skin with the Gentile phenotypes. This is because most Aryan celebrities are fair-skinned or at the very least golden-skinned, rarely dark-brown. In fact, the most non-Eurocentric thing I have heard them say is that golden skin is the ideal, and even better than fair-skin in some cases. Perhaps this is because it is true: that dark-skin = AASI = Gentile? We know that in "Europe" Aryan blood produced lighter skin due to the lack of vitamin D, so could we expect something similar in India? Idk
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There is a trivial solution: convince Indian celebrities with Aryan faces to deliberately suntan.
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To substantiate the previous point, look at this photo of the Andamanese Hunters, closest proxy to AASI Gentiles:
(https://feunfoo.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/jarawa.png)
The modern Indian's skin tone looks nothing similar! The only people closest to them are the "untouchables" who by no coincidence also have the highest AASI ancestry of modern Indians.
"There is a trivial solution: convince Indian celebrities with Aryan faces to deliberately suntan."
Some celebrities seem to have done this:
(https://movie.webindia123.com/movie/star/actress/regional/telugu/Niharika-Konidela/Niharika-Konidela2.jpg)
vs.
(https://images.ottplay.com/articles/2021q3/Exclusive_Niharika__OTTplay_news_cover_image_1_172.jpeg?impolicy=ottplay-20210210&width=1200&height=675)
Although it is unclear whether the second picture is her natural skin color or a result of whitening cream. So we do not know for sure if her darker skin in the first picture is a result of tanning. But regardless, it is a good example of an Aryan celebrity with dark(ish) skin. Now that I think of it, her skin tone in the first picture is similar to mine, and for that matter, the average Indian, but many of them do deliberately become fairer by avoiding the sun, so it is possible Konidela did something similar leading up to when the second picture was taken.
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Psychologically colonization as manifest in architecture (temple was constructed in 2000s):
https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1496559578636763136?s=20
Aryāṃśa
@arya_amsha
Akshardham 🚩
Translate Tweet
1:56 PM · Feb 23, 2022
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https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1496560871061037058
Akshardham is the crown jewel of temples in India, in my opinion.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMTaLLlVkAAeQqb?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Aryāṃśa
@arya_amsha
It is not about how old it is, it’s about the grandness of its architecture.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMTajVEVIAA6NaT?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMTajVDVUAU4T9A?format=jpg&name=900x900)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMTajVGVkAEXsKa?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMTajVDVgAA1nEc?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Not as bad as Western architecture, but nevertheless, this blind worship of grandiosity needs to stop.
Replies:
https://twitter.com/bellz_toll/status/1496731938488344578?s=20
Chata
@bellz_toll
Replying to
@arya_amsha
I would never go here, it feels so devoid of meaning. It feels very grandiose and 5 star hotel type. I would go to MAdhurai Meenakshi or my local Shitla Devi temple.
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I would go to MAdhurai Meenakshi
Still too complicated:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8853/28813535172_a92cf1e504_b.jpg)
Why isn't Kerala architecture promoted more?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hindu_temples_in_Kerala
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Sree_Mahadeva_Temple_Chengamanadu_Front.JPG/1280px-Sree_Mahadeva_Temple_Chengamanadu_Front.JPG)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Vazhappallytemple.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Koothambalam_at_Kerala_Kalamandalam.jpg/1024px-Koothambalam_at_Kerala_Kalamandalam.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Manakkaattutemple.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Chettiku_temp.JPG/1280px-Chettiku_temp.JPG)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/KANDIYUR_TEMPLE.jpg/1280px-KANDIYUR_TEMPLE.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Ambalapuzha_Sri_Krishna_Temple9.jpg/1280px-Ambalapuzha_Sri_Krishna_Temple9.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Evoor_temple_06.JPG/1280px-Evoor_temple_06.JPG)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Ananthapura_temple_Kasaragod.jpg/1280px-Ananthapura_temple_Kasaragod.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Ettumanoor_temple_north_gate.JPG/1280px-Ettumanoor_temple_north_gate.JPG)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Vaikom_Temple.JPG/1280px-Vaikom_Temple.JPG)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Thumpamonvadakkumnathan_1.JPG)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Anikkattilammakshethram1.jpg/1280px-Anikkattilammakshethram1.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Choavlloor_Temple.jpg/1280px-Choavlloor_Temple.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Sree_Koodalmanikyam_Temple.jpg/1280px-Sree_Koodalmanikyam_Temple.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Chappamattam_Tharavadu.jpg/1280px-Chappamattam_Tharavadu.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Padmanabhapuram_Palace.JPG/1280px-Padmanabhapuram_Palace.JPG)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Kerala_courtyard_with_planter.jpg)
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"Still too complicated:"
I agree. However, from my observation, at least the non-Westerners will not talk about how the temple should be exalted for its complexity (unlike False Leftists who fetishize complexity) and that its superiority should be measured with respect to it, but rather how it should only be evaluated with respect to its spirituality. But this approach is ultimately doomed to fail as the complexity doesn't suit the transcendental values they purpotedly seek to promote.
"Why isn't Kerala architecture promoted more?"
Absolutely agree! The pictures actually reminded me of this palace that I visited several years back, also in Kerala:
(https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C4E12AQF2aoiAzFgOyg/article-cover_image-shrink_600_2000/0/1586884284476?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=pEcMxiYI9Iu7DiHt2ZAwUOxT4NqKzzM-xmSsLuWx_6Q)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Padmanabhapuram_Clock_Tower.jpg/800px-Padmanabhapuram_Clock_Tower.jpg)
Compare with Western "palaces" (e.g. Buckingham)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH9SipSAxcU
Whom would the cows prefer?
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Signs of hope:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/whats-drawing-many-indians-australia-233624953.html
What's drawing so many Indians to Australia?
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more than 710,000 Indians who live in Australia, one of the world's biggest "immigrant nations". Their numbers have been increasing rapidly over the past few years - according to the country's last census, Indians are now the second-largest migrant group in Australia, having overtaken the Chinese and second only to the English.
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Aarti Betigeri, a journalist who is currently editing an anthology on the experiences of Indians growing up in Australia, says that when her parents moved there in the 1960s, Indians were hardly a part of public life. "It was rare to find another Indian on the street," she says.
Today, things are different. "They're in jobs across sectors, run their own businesses and are even entering politics," she says.
The recently-elected New South Wales government has four Indian-origin politicians, including Daniel Mookhey, who in March became the first politician of Indian origin to become the treasurer of an Australian state. There is still a long way to go, though - Indian-Australians, along with others with a non-European lineage, are still underrepresented in politics, especially at the federal level.
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Early immigrants arrived in Australia in the 1800s as labourers or servants of British subjects moving from India.
In the 1900s, a broader range of Indians began migrating and their numbers significantly increased after the White Australia policy - a racist law that limited non-white immigration - was scrapped in 1973.
"Even then, Australia remained choosy with the kind of migrants it welcomed; only skilled migrants, like tech workers, doctors, nurses and academics were welcomed, and that too on a very small scale," says Jayant Bapat, a researcher who has co-authored a book on the Indian diaspora in Australia.
The real game-changer came in 2006, when the John Howard-led government opened Australia's doors to Indian students and introduced policy measures that made it easier for them to get permanent residency.
"Indian students still form a very large part of temporary migrants. After they get their degrees, many of them are allowed to settle in Australia," Mr Bapat says.
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Some from the Indian community say that they are trying to make Australia more inclusive by educating people about their culture and heritage.
Divya Saxena, 24, who has grown up in Sydney, wants to make Indian classical dances like Kathak and Bharatnatyam more mainstream in Australia.
She says that Sydney has a flourishing community of Indian-Australian creatives like her who are striving to "break stereotypes" around the South Asian community and support each other's businesses.
Ms Saxena recently choreographed a dance routine for Rowi Singh, an Indian-Australian makeup influencer who creates vibrant looks inspired by her South Asian heritage.
"Our parents' generation started from scratch here; their focus was on holding on to stable jobs so that they could give their children a better life. So they put their heads down and tried to blend in. But people of my generation don't have to shoulder such a burden," Ms Saxena says.
"We're free to pursue our passions, and many of us are trying to make Australia an even more welcoming place for future generations."
Thank you! Keep up the good work!
Just one criticism:
Avani has started hosting wine pairing events that spotlight Indian dishes - meen pollichathu (a baked fish recipe from southern India) is served with Pinot Gris; dal makhani (a slow-cooked, creamy black lentil dish) is paired with a Pinot Noir.
Firstly, stop eating fish. Secondly, stop being an alcoholic Eurocentrist. Here are some dignified alternatives:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_drinks#Alcohol
The alphabetised list of native traditional drinks is as follows:
Akani- palm sap from Tamil Nadu.
Apo – traditional drink from Arunachal Pradesh made from fermented rice
Arrack-distilled from a wash of palm Jagger, herbs etc. from Kerala
Bangla – a distilled country liquor made from starch and sold in West Bengal by government licensed vendors.[5]
Bhang thandai
Bhang lassi – prepared from leaves and buds of female cannabis plant
Bitchi – a drink consumed mostly by Garo tribals
Chhaang or Tongba – drink from Sikkim made from grain millet
Cholai
Chuak – a drink from Tripura made from rice, jackfruit and pineapple
Desi daru
Feni – an alcoholic beverage made from cashew apple or coconut in Goa
Gudamaba – brewed from sugar cane in Hyderabad
Handia - rice beer popularly consumed in Jharkhand
Hariya
Kaid Um – drink in Meghalaya, consumed mostly by Khasi and Jaintia tribes
Kallu – coconut palm sap from Kerala
Kodo Ko Jaanr – also known as chyang, prepared from finger millet[6]
Laopani (also called Haanj) – made from fermented rice in Assam, concentrated extract is called Rohi.
Lugdi – made from rice, Manali
Mahua – made from mahua flowers, Central India[7]
Mandia pej – made from ragi powder and stale water from boiled rice, popular in Odissa
Manri – made from fermented rice, popular in Mithila
Pendhā
Rohi – pale yellow coloured extract of Laopani fermented rice drink of Assam, usually offered to the ancestors, priests or elders on special occasions.
Sekmai – from the state of Manipur; made from sticky rice.
Sonti
Sulai
Sunda Kanji – made from fermenting rice that is buried in earthen or mud pots covered with cloth, sold in Tamil Nadu, India.
Sura
Thaati Kallu
Tharra
Toddy/Tadi/Kallu (palm wine)
Urrak
Zawlaidi – popular in Mizoram prepared from rice, millet and maize.
Zutho – from Nagaland
Or at least:
Alphabetised list of non-traditional drinks in India.
Indian beer
Indian brandy
Indian-made foreign liquor
Indian rum
Indian vodka
Indian whisky
Indian wine
Lion beer, Asia's first beer brand produced at Kasauli Brewery since 1930, brewery was established by Edward Abraham Dyer,[8] father of Colonel Reginald Edward Harry Dyer "The Butcher of Jallianwala Bagh massacre".[8][9][10][11][12][13]
Old Monk, well-known rum produced since 1954.
Solan No. 1, India's first single malt whiskey produced at Kasauli Brewery since 1930 which was started by Edward Abraham Dyer.
See also:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dietary-decolonization/msg11085/?topicseen#msg11085
Since the colonial era, pre-colonial local alcoholic beverages in colonized countries have been to varying degrees supplanted by Western wine. This is also something we should be trying to reverse. While we are not especially pro-alcohol in general, if people must drink, from a purely anti-colonialist perspective we should encourage them to drink the pre-colonial stuff.
Woke comments:
Australia is just an Asian island. It's fitting that Asians be the majority there.
Once the Ęurotŕash invaded, it spiraled downward.
All Europeans looted rest of the world for last 500 years, especially India, which was the richest country in the world for many thousands of years (google - World GDP 2000 years history). And, whites also criminally invaded the south and North America, Australia & NZ, killed the natives mercilessly, stole their land, and now falsely call these white lands! Get some sense MawkQ of the reality!
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Remember Sriram Krishan?
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-adhd/msg16417/#msg16417
Now we have more proof:
https://www.instagram.com/p/hsjEtGLrrz/?hl=en
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U.S. born Indian calls Indian-born Indians (FOBS or foreign born) "creepy", blames them for creating negative stereotypes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/12woa32/comment/jhjkcgd/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
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(https://i.redd.it/2fzauegtegn21.jpg)
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The subreddit has more good posts relating to this topic:
www.reddit.com/r/canconfirmiamindian/comments/tvpdgi/indians_agreeing_w_nixon_that_they_are_ugly/
(https://i.redd.it/yym01q6rxer81.jpg)
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You should at least post counterexamples, or else you make it seem like even you agree with them!
Nixon made his comments in 1971:
https://www.deccanherald.com/international/world-news-politics/indian-women-most-unattractive-in-the-world-richard-nixon-882396.html
It was stunning to hear a conversation between Mr. Nixon, Mr. Kissinger and H.R. Haldeman, the White House chief of staff, in the Oval Office in June 1971. “Undoubtedly the most unattractive women in the world are the Indian women,” said Mr. Nixon. “Undoubtedly,” he repeated, with a venomous tone.
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Mr. Nixon said: “To me, they turn me off. How the hell do they turn other people on, Henry? Tell me.”
so you should specifically post counterexamples from before then in order to be fair:
(https://m.photos.timesofindia.com/thumb.cms?msid=90124901&width=500&resizemode=4)
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Not parody:
https://www.reddit.com/r/canconfirmiamindian/comments/m9085e/indian_american_woman_wishes_india_could_become_a/
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The quoted passage doesn't actually say what the quoter claims it says. When you say "Not parody:", are you referring to the illiteracy of the quoter or to the content of the quoted passage?
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The content.
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Then what is your position on this issue? I am completely confused. Earlier you posted:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/indian-attitudes/msg21051/#msg21051
an exhibition of defeatism, which I assumed you despised, but now you seem to be also despising someone who rejects such defeatism. If you think this is the wrong way to reject defeatism, then what would be a better way?
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"an exhibition of defeatism, which I assumed you despised,"
If you mean that I want to refute the stereotype that Indian women are unattractive, you are correct. But the redditor's main qualm seems to be that she wants "White" men to view Indian women as beautiful, and even defends being fetishized by them to achieve this. This is similar to the woman in the Psychological Decolonization thread that was crying about being called unattractive by her "White" boyfriend.
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"I want to refute the stereotype that Indian women are unattractive, you are correct."
I am glad to hear this. Also, you still haven't posted any counterexamples.
"But the redditor's main qualm seems to be that she wants "White" men to view Indian women as beautiful"
Where does she mention "white" men? The only men she mentions are "desi men" and "brown men" in the last paragraph. Hence:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/indian-attitudes/msg21079/#msg21079
The quoted passage doesn't actually say what the quoter claims it says.
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"Where does she mention "white" men? The only men she mentions are "desi men" and "brown men" in the last paragraph. Hence:"
Well I assumed that wanting to be fetishized by "White" men would imply this, but to be fair, she doesn't explicitly state this, and we can't make any conclusions without knowing the full conversation (i.e. the original post she was replying to).
It could also be possible that she wants validation from "White" men because she believes this will cause Eurocentric "brown" men to view her more positively. This is similar to the male "East Asian" Eurocentrists who want validation from "White" women as a way to "prove" to Eurocentric "Asian" women that they are attractive.
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https://incels.is/threads/indian-men-banned-from-their-own-beaches-to-protect-white-women.508141/
Indian men (and indeed Indian citizens in general) are being banned from beaches in their own country to protect female tourists from their "lecherous stares". Can you imagine anything more cucked than this? I have heard of countries banning foreigners from certain places, like Japanese only bars in Japan, but banning your own citizens? Next level.
And it's not just beaches! There are multiple articles I have found talking about all kinds of Indian places that Indians are banned from, so that foreigners can feel more at ease.
https://curlytales.com/infamous-places-in-india-where-indians-are-not-allowed/
The beach lover’s paradise, Goa is home to some ‘foreigner-only’ beaches and shacks’. Upon barring the entry of Indians, the natives claim that they want to protect their guests in bikinis and swimsuits from the lusty eyes of the Indians.
Norbulingka cafe sits on a picturesque location in Dharamshala amid beautiful gardens and monasteries. But the management of this cafe does not allow entry of Indians. Reportedly, even the people looking like Indians are prohibited from entering the cafe premises.
In other words, it's not about catering to "foreigners" or "tourists" at all (since these could also "look like Indians"). We all know what it's about.
Accurate comments:
White foids deciding how the world should be ran jfl.
I can never understand the true power of being a white woman. Society just bends to your will
literally privileged white colonizers taking away BIPOC spaces
Literally British raj. Racial segregation and Anglo only places.
Colonized brains
curry women will probably be allowed to enter the beachs while curry men aren't so they would get **** by white tourists comming to india.
yup, i heard about white blonde men coming to india just to do breeding parties with indian females and the woman end up having mixed kids.
Eurocentrist comments:
Good. At least we’re waking up to our own subhumanity
White people rule the world and they always will. Always until the end of time
Those mayo foids should be captured and distributed amongst our fellow currycels in hopes of them being impregnated to improve the genetic quality of their supposed half curry offspring.
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Indian origin Americans display their Eurocentrism (while claiming to advocate against Eurocentrism):
https://www.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/zi9ysl/unpopular_opinion_simone_ashley_is_that/
This is Simone Ashley:
(https://images.hellomagazine.com/horizon/43/7b8af6e38d6e-simone-ashley-close-up.jpg)
BTW:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT60KfZpcEmbRX148Qj8yS8AOXY8Cz4U385qUFzG6PdWgng4ox0WTozu5DuXkCbRwujtK4&usqp=CAU)
A commenter who gets it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/zi9ysl/unpopular_opinion_simone_ashley_is_that/iztohhw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Simone is absolutely gorgeous! But remember that it’s not just skin color, India generally has different preferences for facial features as well.
Like Nandita Das—dark-skinned, but her features are more in line with what Indians consider a classic feminine beauty. She’s faced discrimination before, but people generally consider her conventionally beautiful.
And I think what you have to consider is that Bollywood is very North-aligned, especially recently—so they prefer more “Mughal”-like features. Katrina Kaif isn’t a classical Indian beauty, for example (her face is too oblong, eyes too close set together) but many Desis prefer her features over Nandita’s because they favor the Turkic/Persian look. That’s more “fashionable” right now.
Remember Freida Pinto? How when she became famous, everybody in India was calling her ugly? She’s much lighter than Simone, but Indians in general don’t seem to appreciate square-ish faces and strong jawlines. They say they like “sharp” features, but that doesn’t seem to extend to the jaw so much?? Or if the jaw is sharp, they prefer it on oval faces.
Idk beauty is weird lol
One thing I’ll say tho—I’ll never understand how Kareena came to be considered a beauty. I’m convinced Desis need their eyes checked
This is Freida Pinto:
(https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/freidapinto.png)
BTW:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSYPx7BeYxeaRFsPIR6-9D3LIqRVNjhlDQC1A&usqp=CAU)
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Another Tweet promoting Simone Ashley as "attractive" while denigrating Indian men:
(https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1658764295090557.png)
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@rp It’s possible that the person who posted the tweet is trying to score brownie points with Eurocentrists by throwing Indian men under the bus so that they can be part of the Eurocentric Beauty Club. Indian women are stereotyped as being ugly just as often as Indian men. Men just have a way tougher time with pickup artistry antics than women for obvious reasons, so you only really see the men noticing these stereotypes and complaining about it
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You are correct, Eurocentrist Indian men have a harder time in PUA with "White" women due to mate choice copying and the 80-20 rule. These men also throw Indian women under the bus by calling them "ugly", and try to "prove" to "Whites" that Indian men are "attractive" by promoting subhuman phenotypes such as Sendhil Ramamurthy (see Face Shapes and Preferences thread).
This behavior is no different than what the person who posted the tweet was doing.
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"A commenter who gets it:"
Simone is absolutely gorgeous!
Wait, what?! So are you (rp) implying (since you say this commenter gets it) that you yourself like Ashley's looks? Here is picture with her hair out of the way:
(https://media.glamour.com/photos/62264e6b1fb349acc443e8c4/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/SA_04_0810.jpg)
Like Nandita Das—dark-skinned, but her features are more in line with what Indians consider a classic feminine beauty. She’s faced discrimination before, but people generally consider her conventionally beautiful.
This needs changing also. We are talking about:
(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2EA41A0/indian-actress-and-jury-member-nandita-das-arrives-for-the-screening-of-the-film-lemming-directed-by-french-director-dominik-moll-opening-the-58th-international-cannes-film-festival-in-cannes-southern-france-on-may-11-2005-photo-by-hahn-klein-nebingerabaca-2EA41A0.jpg)
Reduction is not the answer. We need gracilization!
Katrina Kaif isn’t a classical Indian beauty, for example (her face is too oblong, eyes too close set together) but many Desis prefer her features over Nandita’s
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Katrina_Kaif_in_2021.jpg)
While I am certain that most Kaif fans are Eurocentrists who positively like her robustness (or worse, are turned on just by the information about her partial Anglo ancestry), among them may be a few who solely like her longer nose (for the sake of which they are ignoring her robustness). These I would say actually have more potential than the Ashley/Das fans.
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"Wait, what?! So are you (rp) implying (since you say this commenter gets it) that you yourself like Ashley's looks? Here is picture with her hair out of the way:"
Of course not! I should have made that more clear, my bad. I meant that the commenter understands why someone like Ashley would not be promoted in Bollywood, even though they themselves like her.
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Going off the previous post, and I know this is getting a bit particular, but I have yet to see a male celebrity from South India. I think South Indians have been brainwashed into thinking that they are inferior to North Indians, so when they someone like Hrithik Roshan or SRK, they think height and fair skin are the most important traits. This of course is not true, as in the case of Roshan, his height is mainly due to mesomorphy, and while there certainly exist Eurocentrists who like him for that and his skin/eye color, I would argue his main popularity is due to his face. This is evidenced by SRK, where he is popular as Roshan despite the former being average height, primarily because of his face, but also because the latter's height does not have the force multiplication effect due to mesomorphy.
And while I think South Indian actors like Vijay have an advantage over SRK because the former is an ectomorph and taller than the latter, and also over someone like Hrithik Roshan as the former is an ectomorph despite being the same height, the face is the most important trait and is a make or break, as shown in the above pic.
So could it be possible that South Indians are screwed due to their facial phenotype despite (from my observations) ectomorphy being more common than in North Indians? Idk. Maybe try searching for average height and/or dark skinned ectomorph actors and you will find Aryan phenotypes.
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"I have yet to see a male celebrity from South India."
How about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ3B4b4Htmw
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Yeah I was thinking of that guy, although I will say the large facial hair area ruins it, unfortunately.
I was also thinking of posting this guy:
(https://e0.pxfuel.com/wallpapers/321/8/desktop-wallpaper-arya-tamil-actor-handsome-thumbnail.jpg)
(https://images.news18.com/ibnlive/uploads/2013/03/tedacropped.jpg?im=FitAndFill=(1200,675))
(https://i.cdn.newsbytesapp.com/images/l221_10441626844327.jpg)
But backpedaled for the same reason. (BTW, I must say, light colored eyes look really good on Aryan faces of Indian ethnicity, particularly if the skin is a golden tan, even better than dark colored eyes IMO. Do I suffer from Eurocentrism?)
I liked it better in the 80s/90s, when the style for Indian men was just the mustache and not a full beard (also note the oval, though I'm not sure if I would consider it Aryan as I can't tell if it is gracialized):
(https://img.republicworld.com/republic-prod/stories/images/16017039155f780feb57600.png)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7tbT9bwVpyk/maxresdefault.jpg)
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"I must say, light colored eyes look really good on Aryan faces of Indian ethnicity, particularly if the skin is a golden tan, even better than dark colored eyes IMO. Do I suffer from Eurocentrism?"
Your statement logically implies that the best-looking Indian without light-coloured eyes is not as good-looking to you as the best-looking Indian with light-coloured eyes.
In order for you to prove you are not Eurocentric while standing by the above, it would logically suffice for you to be able to point to at least one person of a non-Indian "non-white" ethnicity without light-coloured eyes who looks better to you than the best-looking Indian with light-coloured eyes. Can you?
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https://www.quora.com/Do-the-Indian-Muslims-eat-beef/answer/Bilal-Ahmed-265
Do the Indian Muslims eat beef?
I'm proud to be an Indian Ahmadi Muslim.
I think this is my fourth answer regarding beef ban.
Now the answer to the question is, if an Indian Muslim consumed beef from a state where beef is banned, then he has violated the state rules.
The holy prophet of Islam has taught that “ Loving our own country is an integral part of our faith.”
So it is obligated upon Muslims to obey the rules implemented by their government. (Islamic rules)
Now Muslims in Kerala eat beef because consuming beef in Kerala is not a crime. Now those Muslims who live in the states where beef is banned, listen to me , I have already mentioned that Beef is halal for Muslims but every halal food is not compulsory to eat.
If they stop eating beef, they won’t die. If beef is banned, you can eat other non vegetarian foods like chicken, fish etc.
Our founder of Ahmadiyya Muslim community stated that for tying up a good relationship with Hindus, we are ready to stop eating beef also.
I currently live in Punjab where cattle slaughter is banned, so I don't eat beef in Punjab. But when I go for a vacation in Kerala, I eat beef there.
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The holy prophet of Islam has taught that “ Loving our own country is an integral part of our faith.”
So it is obligated upon Muslims to obey the rules implemented by their government.
I agree with your prophet, but your inference is a non-sequitur. If a rule is unethical, obeying that rule actually shows you do not love your country.
Our founder of Ahmadiyya Muslim community stated that for tying up a good relationship with Hindus, we are ready to stop eating beef also.
I currently live in Punjab where cattle slaughter is banned, so I don't eat beef in Punjab. But when I go for a vacation in Kerala, I eat beef there.
I agree with your founder, but would Hindus be more impressed knowing that you were eating beef in Kerala, or knowing that you did not eat beef even in Kerala? If the latter, then why not try harder to impress them?
If beef is banned, you can eat other non vegetarian foods like chicken, fish etc.
Don't you want a good relationship with Jains also?
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"White" female privilege:
https://youtu.be/TUM-xnktlsw
Would she have behaved the same way if the approacher was "White"?
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"Would she have behaved the same way if the approacher was "White"?"
Why would she not? Does she come from a background of being colonized by "whites"?
Also, are you implying there was anything wrong with her behaviour as seen in the video? If so, you are supporting our enemies' (incels') worldview.
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"Why would she not? Does she come from a background of being colonized by "whites"?"
No, but she herself is "White".
"Also, are you implying there was anything wrong with her behaviour as seen in the video? "
Not necessarily, but we know that many "White" females lust after literal serial killers and rapists for their "dark triad" traits.
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"No, but she herself is "White"."
So? Even the "white" incels themselves complain that "white" women almost never give them a chance!
(And, strictly, speaking, we do not even know for sure that is she "white", as opposed to being merely an individual with "white" parents.)
"Not necessarily, but we know that many "White" females lust after literal serial killers and rapists for their "dark triad" traits."
Point out where the individual in the video behaves in a way as to suggest to you she is one of these.
(Side note: she is wearing a mask whereas the approacher is not.)
(Another side note: she mentioned that she felt bad about having to lie to the approacher even though it was in self-defence; contrast with the attitude of those who are proud of even their proactive lying, such as https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-treachery/msg21483/#msg21483 (face shape contrast also!).)
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All we have to go off of is the video, and in this video, she didn’t do anything wrong. The person following her even asks for her number, even though she’s clearly distressed and has been turning down his advances for the past few minutes already. The YouTube channel that posted this is more in the wrong than the woman, because they’re using this instance to bolster their clearly “redpill”-adjacent agenda
In general, I try to take the approach of assuming that people have positive qualities until they prove that they lack those qualities, instead of starting out assuming that they possess negative qualities, with the glass half empty, so to speak.
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Alright, you guys make good points. I should also note that "non-White" reproductive Eurocentrist incels have also been joining in on this "White" women bashing; but not for their racism, rather, because those women are insufficiently rightist (see comic 90sRetroFan posted).
In general, I support discouraging this "cold approaching" PUA culture (which seems to be Western in origin), but only if it is applied to "White" approachers as well. But I will admit that we don't know whether this woman is open to "White" approachers.
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https://youtu.be/6zb-V-rJYuA
What is the cause of such incidents? Is it really because of "sexual repression" as the False Left likes to claim?
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Contrast with:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/indian-attitudes/msg2159/#msg2159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVuudcpW-MY
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https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/15yx0sm/why_is_testosterone_replacement_therapy_trt_so/
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https://twitter.com/TimesAlgebraIND/status/1694707104454721729?s=20
Times Algebra
@TimesAlgebraIND
ISRO Chief Somanath : "Principles of science originated in Vedas but repackaged as western discoveries"🔥🔥
He said "Algebra, square roots, concepts of time, architecture, structure of universe & even aviation were first found in the Vedas♥️ but they travelled to Europe through Arab countries, and were subsequently posited as discoveries of scientists of the western world"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4TPIPxbYAAfVJ6?format=jpg&name=medium)
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https://youtu.be/mW1n9VhPPSc
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https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-so-many-Telugu-people-in-the-United-States-of-America
Why are there so many Telugu people in the United States of America?[/size]
US is Mecca for the Telugu community. If they have not set their foot in the States, then their lives seem to be doomed (as per them).
Give them a choice : Any other country or US - they will still prefer to come to US only. This is my personal experience that I have seen it in my friend’s circle.
US is a status symbol for them. Be it for a marriage prospect or to show off their financial or social status. Dowry system is too much prevalent in their society. If a guy has stepped his foot in the US soil, his rate of dowry-demand becomes “n”-folded. So they try their level best to get into the US “somehow”, few times by “merit” and most of the times by “fraud”. Their fraud has brought a very bad name to most of the Indians now. :@
The telugus bond mostly among themselves only and see everyone else as low. Even if you are the sweetest to them. If you dont speak telugu, sorry we cannot like you much or gel with you much - is their attitude.
They meet any other stranger telugu speaking person, they become family immediately even if you were the best friend till now i.e. before meeting the other telugu person.
First question they ask is - where are you from? Do you know telugu? And then they become family. Such is their sense of belongingness towards their community. It is a good thing, no doubts.
But if you dont know telugu, they would consistently force you or irritate you by saying - why dont you learn telugu? What disgusts me is that I will learn if I wish to, dont force me. :@ They start speaking telugu in front of everyone, disrespecting everyone else who doesnt understand their language - be it in office or a social gathering. You would be treated like an invisible person there. Oh God, this is so common among the telugu people. It is like their mission to make telugu the world’s language!!
Looks like they are in the US to make Telugu one of the official languages in the States and then slowly spread it across the world “forcefully”.
If the Telugus want to immigrate to America, they should be allowed to do so. Immigration fraud (i.e. faking degrees) only takes place because the degree is used as a requirement for immigration.
The other points seem to be valid (i.e. tribalism, dowry, etc.)
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This annoying Islamophobic meme has been going around a lot:
https://twitter.com/indiainpixels/status/1694336835881951548
India in Pixels by Ashris
@indiainpixels
Countries that have moon on their flag
Tunisia 🇹🇳
Pakistan 🇵🇰
Singapore 🇸🇬
Laos 🇱🇦
Nepal 🇳🇵
Malaysia 🇲🇾
Mongolia 🇲🇳
Algeria 🇩🇿
Countries that have their flags on the moon
USA 🇺🇲
Soviet Union 🇷🇺
China 🇨🇳
Israel 🇮🇱
India 🇮🇳
Congratulations to ISRO and all Indians all around the worth for the grand success of Chandrayan-3 💪🇮🇳🇮🇳
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https://twitter.com/Openatic/status/1697855570978693166?t=J6fHZArXSRuB6gk5n9c2dA&s=19
Shanmugaratnam isn't a parochial and petty minded linguistic chauvinist unlike most tamil politicians in India. He is married to a lady of Chinese and Japanese descent for example.
If tamil politicians in India also adopt a broad minded and expansive outlook, they can surely win the popular vote here too.
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Cringe alert (video at link):
https://twitter.com/chakravartiin/status/1630834160452665346?t=UyRiD81xudQMY7izwhHk4g&s=19
On one end of H Twitter spectrum we have Honda Shernis who are hellbent on proving that whoring & drinking are virtues according to holy texts and on the other end we have jokers like this who are "Literally worshipping a white man" in place of gods making a mockery of Hindus.
Full video of the actual puja (worship) of Elon Musk at Bangalore, India.
Men's Activists of SIFF used to be often shadow banned from twitter by previous woke admins of the company.
After Elon Musk fired them, the MRAs have got back their right to free speech.
Elon Musk Puja
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https://twitter.com/chakravartiin/status/1701073097716330656?t=MYjDTEX0JR0dsBZ7BMtuAA&s=19 (video at link):
The second hand embarrassment I get from these is unbelievable. Being creepy & cringe is innate to our nation's psychology it seems
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Indian Turanist bragging about being Zionist mercenaries.
https://twitter.com/rudrabhoj/status/1685203311958609920?t=oYgJsFj0gLTAECzhl7wiRA&s=19
We victoriously fought against premier warring race of the world. We humiliated Turks and Germans in Haifa, Afghans in Afghanistan, Japanese all over South and East Asia, Chinese in Himalayas and during boxer rebellion within China. We did great job fighting Europeans in Europe. Sadly much of it was under a non Rajput sovereign. How sad we never had a majority anywhere for a true Rajputana. How different would history be if a Rajput sailed to the new world before Columbus ? Or one of us win the scramble for Africa? Alas we shall never know.
This guy says he wishes the British would have gave Rajputs their own breakaway state separate from India. This sounds similar to what that Turanist Russian (forgot his name) wanted with Mongolia.
Homework: which Indians should be prohibited from reproducing first?
Anyway, this illustrates the difference between survivalism and militarism. Anyone who loves themselves more than they hate their enemy can never be a worthy ally.
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Also:
https://twitter.com/rudrabhoj/status/1674669798213525506
Jaisalmeri Jangalee Chicken carrying 140 gram protein, eatable in one serving. Veganism is r*tarded.
https://twitter.com/rudrabhoj/status/1675035107776684034
Today's office brunch. Half KG Jaisalmeri Jungalee Chicken (breast) and 150g of Nihari. With Khameeri Roti. I expect at least 100 liters of soy tears.
::)
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https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1661733119341531140
Aryāṃśa
@arya_amsha
The rural parts of Haryana, Punjab and Rajasthan have the highest average daily protein intake per capita in India at 70+ grams.
These states get most of their protein from consumption of dairy.
Lot of 🐄 🥛 🧀
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw-pdyraUAEe8Fl?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1661735724352434177
Rural areas of these three states consume more protein (more dairy) than urban areas! No shocker there.
Also, these states have the tallest men in India as well.
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This might lead one to think that North Indians are categorically inferior to South Indians. But wait!:
https://x.com/arya_amsha/status/1661735057508425728?s=20
These three states consume the lowest meat/eggs per capita too.
Since dairy has a lot of protein in it, one doesn't need to eat meat to meet RDA for protein intake.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw-rOhsaEAEsBmq?format=jpg&name=small)
BTW, height is primarily due to genetics IMO. The protein difference is not significant enough to contribute to any meaningful height difference. I suspect it is because we have Turanians in the North skewing the data and aboriginals in the South skewing the data.
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Northwestern India barred Jammu & Kashmir in the map has lower meat consumption.
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meet RDA for protein intake
R by Western civilization, coming from a supposed proud Indian..... Does he even notice how ridiculous he sounds?
What gets me is how both the supposed proud Indians and the defeatists are in agreement about diet. Here is a defeatist:
https://www.reddit.com/r/librandu/comments/px0nnx/why_are_indian_men_so_ugly/hektjlp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Sometimes I wish the British had never left. They taught us manners which we can use to redeem ourselves in the world I feel. At least we would have had some discipline in us. Which other population squats in its default position. it's an undignified way of existing that is ingrained in our DNA. We as a species (dare we even qualify as homo sapien) are an individual and collective failure at coherent thought and originality. Rationality and critical thinking have no place in the heads of anyone living in India as we have been proved incapable of it time and again. The only forces stabilizing us over the centuries have been hitherto ideals of rule of law, medicine, and art. Nothing of value is ever going to come from the utterly hopeless population should we continue to wade in this shitshow of a society. We are even far from being a civilization or being worthy of interacting with any.
Sometimes I look around and think how we have gotten so far. We have no manners and courtesy. Our festivals are barbaric and savage and only heed to create more chaos. Our language sounds like spiked blades to ears, there is nothing about it that is pleasant. Look at the idioms we use. They sound so primitive and crude. There is no sophistication or class in any language that is spoken in this country. Even traditional 'classical' music is unnecessarily loud and raw pitched with no musical talent required or displayed. Our food is maybe the most strong smelling in the world and thousands of years of eating it have evolved us to smell and stench up this land. yet we revel in it and have the audacity to keep making it even though the world laughs at us for eating it. No other culture whips up a concoction of crude stench and unnecessary carbs yet we have the gall to peddle it to the world like a filthy tramp.
Even our skin next to other populations in the world looks dirty. India is the finest example of the adage of beautiful people breeding beautiful societies. We have the worst physique in the world and make it further worse by peddling abhorrent impractical fashion choices in the name of 'culture' and yet we have reproduced beyond control and infected this land. Look around and see how everyone looks. We are uncouth, undisciplined, dirty and inherently backward, bound to a fate of mediocrity at best. It yet boggles me how we keep breeding explosively and let undesirables flood the gates. I feel for the countries who reject Indian visas. They know we are a people beyond saving and our race is not up to any standard. Stop hoping in the name of development in the country. It's never meant to be anywhere, we were never destined for greatness.
I have given up. We are utterly incompetent people unworthy of saving at this point. We are at the mercy of the worlds pity and yet we squander the opportunity and continue dying in hordes. By now they must've realized the faster we eliminate ourselves from the gene pool, humanity will benefit. We are beyond redemption and fail ourselves every day. We are overpopulated, filthy and the least undesirable in the world. Yet how we see this problem and keep breeding still escapes me.
I don;t even know why we are even trying at this point. What is even worth saving in this godforsaken land? Our population is carrying second rate genes, and breeds undesirables like how covid multiplies in us. Most people are uneducated raised on **** and rapist tendencies which further doom our kind in the years to come. Our life and looks are of no worth to any country than those banking on our survival for exploitable labour. What is not garbage to be thrown away in this coutry? Abundance of human life? By now, the less we have the better. Even our bodies are polluted by ourselves making organs unfit for any swap.
Our culture is based off savagery and suppression. Nothing of worth there. Our food is the amalgamation of all the offensive odours and tastes from those who ruled us. We could start by learning from others on how to cut carbs and fat, which is what defines our diet. The world mocks us for our lifestyle. Everywhere I look people are turned ugly not only by this but because of absolutely zero fashion sense. Just look at how the average Indian dresses. The gaudiness gives you headaches Do you see hope or any grain of sophistication for the future?
Mediocrity and incompetence runs in our DNA, which is why foreigners were successful in keeping us in line. Should we even be allowed to self govern? It is only in foreign interests to let it happen and eliminate ourselves. The world will be a better place with less undesirables and uncontrolled breeding.
It makes sense for a defeatist to use Western standards, but not for a supposed proud Indian to do so.
See also:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dietary-decolonization/msg18000/?topicseen#msg18000
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dietary-decolonization/msg18001/?topicseen#msg18001
It would be so easy for Indians to claim gene pool superiority based on:
(https://news.cornell.edu/sites/chronicle.cornell/files/allele460.jpg?itok=UbLQJC7v)
but this is rarely done. Why?
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"What gets me is how both the supposed proud Indians and the defeatists are in agreement about diet. Here is a defeatist:"
It is no surprise that these supposed "proud Indians" eventually become Turanists who end up becoming racist against their fellow countrymen (see Rudrabhoj from one page earlier), calling them "AASI", "Dasyu", "Pajeet", etc. Here is the tweeter themselves admitting the road this inevitably leads down (and expressing their regret for contributing to it):
https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1662785116375068673?t=33-xxUjo8OxnofWS3SeYzg&s=19
Have increasingly come to regret all the obsession related to protein and lookism that I played a big role in creating on this side of twitter. While my intention was just promoting a good hobby with my e-friends, it has increasingly devolved into a very crude and low IQ sphere based on a combination of lookism & genetics that is obsessed with manosphere banter and thinks the world revolves physical aesthetics.
I do agree that many Indians do not have Aryan metabolism to digest the high amount of carbs which leads to high body fat. But wouldn't it be better to replace it with cheap grains such as millet?:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/indian-army-to-introduce-millets-in-rations-of-soldiers/article66649631.ece/amp/
Also, BTW:
https://www.quora.com/Why-were-millets-sidelined-in-favor-of-rice-and-wheat-in-India
Instead:
https://twitter.com/rudrabhoj/status/1643962560486555650?t=wKFjWReV-hPgMUT5lhKjrA&s=19
While Indian sub-continent was always and still is primarily an agrarian vegetarian society, protein deficiency was avoided by the elites because of copius amount of milk available to them historically. You really think Rajput, Brahman and Bania elites of past were deficient?
https://twitter.com/rudrabhoj/status/1643962563221225475?t=V5HlUNfkZymM0cOwWJ3KUg&s=19
There is no true meat eater community in India, with possible exception of small communities in the desert and far off mountains, where it was the only source of nutrition available. But historically quality milk was consumed in large quantities.
https://twitter.com/rudrabhoj/status/1643962565414756353?t=2Qf207BU798preyNodH0qw&s=19
This isn't the case anymore, you would be hard-pressed to find quality milk in the cities, even tier 3 cities. It would almost always be polluted, heavily processed or both. Also, really copious amount of milk would be needed. 2+ liter at least (milk+buttermilk
And the irony:
https://twitter.com/rudrabhoj/status/1643962567461593091?t=bfJMmKLywJu_volOgUeXlA&s=19
It is just easier to eat 250g of meat a day, it wouldn't even be felt. On the top of that you can avoid overly processed and adulterated milk will do do more harm than good. This low T vegetarian virtue signalling is suicidal to the point of adopting defeatism as culture
You are the one who is embracing defeatism. 250g a day per person is insane (and expensive). The only way to achieve such a thing would be importing the barbaric Western practice of industrialized livestock domestication. As for milk being consumed in "copious amounts" (again, 2L is an insane quantity):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_in_India#Early_period
According to the Sutra literature, during the period c. 800 – c. 300 BCE, boiled rice with milk or curd continued to be a common food item. Cows used to be milked twice a day. The ones which were pregnant or undergoing their estrous cycle or nursing a calf of another cow were not milked. The preparation of payasa is also noted.[13] Madhuparka – a mixture of honey with curds or ghee was used for welcoming guests. The preparation of a sweet with clarified butter as one of the ingredients is also mentioned.[14] The Buddhist and Jain texts of the period also regard milk and its products important articles of food, with milk-rice being especially favoured. They mention preparations made from curds, butter and buttermilk. The milk of camels and goats were also in use, in addition to that of cows and buffaloes.[15]
BTW:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Flood
Operation Flood, launched on 13 January 1970, was the world's largest dairy development program and a landmark project of India's National Dairy Development Board (NDDB).[1] It transformed India from a milk-deficient nation into the world's largest milk producer, surpassing the United States of America in 1998 with about 22.29 percent of global output in 2018.[2][3] Within 30 years, it doubled the milk available per person in India[4] and made dairy farming India's largest self-sustainable rural employment generator.[5] The program was launched to help farmers direct their own development, and to give them control of the resources they create. The program has since been termed the "White Revolution".
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The apology itself uses Western standards again!
Have increasingly come to regret all the obsession related to protein and lookism that I played a big role in creating on this side of twitter. While my intention was just promoting a good hobby with my e-friends, it has increasingly devolved into a very crude and low IQ sphere based on a combination of lookism & genetics that is obsessed with manosphere banter and thinks the world revolves physical aesthetics.
(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)
Besides, there is nothing wrong with lookism, so long as it is based on non-Eurocentric standards.
Which brings us to this tweet undoubtedly posted with bursting pride:
https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1598303131099869185
Portrait reconstruction of Chandragupta Maurya with his Macedonian Queen, daughter of Seleucus Nicator.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fi5PCp1akAEtUEL?format=jpg&name=900x900)
(https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png)
Note also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandragupta_Maurya
Chandragupta did not give up performing the rites of sacrificing animals associated with Vedic Brahminism, an ancient form of Hinduism; he delighted in hunting and otherwise leading a life remote from the Jain practice of Ahimsa or nonviolence towards living beings.[9][15]
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I remember this image. Here is one of the replies calling him out:
https://x.com/themoneymemo/status/1598578670544773123?s=20
http://The Money Memo
@themoneymemo
Six pack abs is quite possible, but he may not have been so jacked. A heavy, muscular body is always a hindrance in battle, where you need to be more flexible and agile. It’s not rare to see construction workers in India with six pack abs.
Until now, I did not know Chandragupta Maurya practiced hunting (he is the grandfather of Asoka after all FFS!). Still, I doubt he was as muscular as the AI portrait shows him. Even in the other tweet, where he is gloating about "peak masculine aesthetics", the statue has less muscle mass than most European statues.
Speaking of which, here is Turanist Rudrabhoj claiming Asoka as one of his:
Rawal Rudrabhoj Bhati
@rudrabhoj
Ashoka is our hero as much as the great warriors of the Vedic age like Sudas. Not just the spiritual message of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna, but also their military ideals is the inalienable part of our civilization.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrBjI7MWcAEAr-c?format=jpg&name=large)
We know Krishna was Yaduvanshi/Chandravanshi, but what about Ram?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama#Etymology_and_nomenclature
Rama is also known as Ram, Raman, Ramar,[α] and Ramachandra (/ˌrɑːməˈtʃændrə/;[22] IAST: Rāmacandra, Sanskrit: रामचन्द्र). Rāma is a Vedic Sanskrit word with two contextual meanings. In one context, as found in Atharva Veda, as stated by Monier Monier-Williams, means "dark, dark-colored, black" and is related to the term ratri, which means night. In another context in other Vedic texts, the word means "pleasing, delightful, charming, beautiful, lovely".[23][24] The word is sometimes used as a suffix in different Indian languages and religions, such as Pali in Buddhist texts, where -rama adds the sense of "pleasing to the mind, lovely" to the composite word.[25]
Rama as a first name appears in the Vedic literature, associated with two patronymic names – Margaveya and Aupatasvini – representing different individuals. A third individual named Rama Jamadagnya is the purported author of hymn 10.110 of the Rigveda in the Hindu tradition.[23] The word Rama appears in ancient literature in reverential terms for three individuals:[23]
Parashu-rama, as the sixth avatar of Vishnu. He is linked to the Rama Jamadagnya of the Rigveda fame.
Rama-chandra, as the seventh avatar of Vishnu and of the ancient Ramayana fame.
Bala-rama, also called Halayudha, as the elder brother of Krishna both of whom appear in the legends of Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.
The name Rama appears repeatedly in Hindu texts, for many different scholars and kings in mythical stories.[23] The word also appears in ancient Upanishads and Aranyakas layer of Vedic literature, as well as music and other post-Vedic literature, but in qualifying context of something or someone who is "charming, beautiful, lovely" or "darkness, night".[23]
The Vishnu avatar named Rama is also known by other names. He is called Ramachandra (beautiful, lovely moon),[24] or Dasarathi (son of Dasaratha), or Raghava (descendant of Raghu, solar dynasty in Hindu cosmology).[23][26] He is also known as Ram Lalla (Infant form of Rama).[27]
BTW, even Ram, a pure Suryavanshi, is described as pursuing hunting. Is it possible that this is a distortion by Vedics? I think it is impossible that a pure Suryavanshi would pursue such activities. What do you think?
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"Besides, there is nothing wrong with lookism, so long as it is based on non-Eurocentric standards."
But we have seen that even non-Western civilizations glorify robustness/muscle mass (albeit to a lesser extent). How do we make the jump from True Leftism to Aryanism wrt to aesthetics?
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"Here is one of the replies calling him out:"
The main point is not the physique, but the Eurocentrist trophy wife!
"I think it is impossible that a pure Suryavanshi would pursue such activities. What do you think?"
A pure Suryavanshi could kill a non-human that they personally see initiating violence in real time. This would be Ahimsa hunting, so long as they would also kill a human under similar circumstances.
But Vedics hearing a story about Ahimsa hunting could be expected to crudely record it as merely a generic hunting story that neglects the context of who was initiating violence and who was retaliating.
"But we have seen that even non-Western civilizations glorify robustness/muscle mass (albeit to a lesser extent). How do we make the jump from True Leftism to Aryanism wrt to aesthetics?"
It should follow spontaneously. You cannot be pro-robustness and not logically end up Eurocentrist, therefore those who have made anti-Eurocentrism their aim will sooner or later figure out that being pro-gracility is the only way.
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"The main point is not the physique, but the Eurocentrist trophy wife!"
But even the wife is depicted incorrectly
https://twitter.com/suprovo04/status/1598353168441626624
What are the chances to find blonde haired women in the Mediterranean region of Europe?
I think it's very unlikely.
So it is possible that he was drawn toward Mediterranean blood? But then again, Seleucus was the general of Alexander, who himself was a disciple of Aristotle, so perhaps not.
"A pure Suryavanshi could kill a non-human that they personally see initiating violence in real time. This would be Ahimsa hunting, so long as they would also kill a human under similar circumstances."
You are certainly correct! Here is a story of Suryavanshi King Dilipa, father of Raghu, ancestor of Ram, in which he does exactly that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dil%C4%ABpa#Birth_of_Raghu
The Padma Purāṇa and Uttarā Kāṇḍa of the Rāmāyaṇa mention the tale of the birth of Raghu. Dilipa was a noble, popular ruler who was married to Sudakshina, the princess of Magadha; however, he had no progeny. He and Sudakshina decided to go to the sage Vasishta in order to receive advice on how to obtain a child. At Vasishta's ashrama, he told the couple that the reason they had no children was because they had slighted the divine cow Kamadhenu. He stated that once when Dilipa was visiting the god Indra, he had passed Kamadhenu but paid no attention to her. Kamadhenu took this as a personal insult, and cursed Dilipa so that he would not have any children until he served and propiated Kamadhenu's daughter, Nandini. Vasishta told Dilipa and Sudakshina that Nandani had gone to Patala to attend a sacrifice of the god Varuna. For the next twenty-one days, Dilipa and Sudakshina followed and attended on Nandini as she traversed Patala. One morning Nandini went to graze in a forest, and as usual Dilipa followed her. However, when Dilipa was focused on the beautiful wooden scenery, a lion jumped out and attacked Nandini. Dilipa aimed his bow and arrow at the lion to fire, but he was paralysed. The lion told Dilipa that he was a servant of the god Shiva, and that he had been ordained to protect a divine deodar cedar tree that had been planted by Shiva's wife, Parvati. The lion stated that he was allowed to eat any animals that came near the deodar cedar tree, and so was justified in eating Nandini. Dilipa fell to his knees and bowed to the lion, and begged the lion to eat him rather than Nandini. Suddenly, the lion disappeared and Nandini revealed that she had done this to test Dilipa. After successfully propiating Nandini, Dilipa and Sudakshina returned to the earthly realm and had a son named Raghu.[1][2]
"But Vedics hearing a story about Ahimsa hunting could be expected to crudely record it as merely a generic hunting story that neglects the context of who was initiating violence and who was retaliating."
This could certainly be the case with Ram.
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"the wife is depicted incorrectly"
The wife is depicted as the tweeter hopes she looked like. ::)
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"The wife is depicted as the tweeter hopes she looked like. ::"
Yes, I suppose he thought he was "owning" Identitarians by posting a picture of a "Brown" man "scoring" a "White" girl.
Also, replying to an earlier post:
"but this is rarely done. Why?"
Vegetarianism is popular in India, but in the traditional Hindu view, it is restricted to the priestly/philosopher/ascetic caste (Brahmin). One would think that since Brahmins are at the top, vegetarianism (and by extension the genes that allow it) would be held as a model ideal.
This is true, but a Kshatriya who becomes vegetarian is seen as abandoning their duty. This is because the modern-day "universal vegetarian" movement in India and other parts of the world are pacifist in nature, to the point of vegetarianism becoming associated with pacifism (thanks to Eurocentrists like Gandhi). This has led to an inferiority complex among Indians who see themselves as having been emasculated by British who were bigger and stronger than them, which in turn breeds reactionary "chadpilling" on Twitter, where people think they need to eat more meat in order to avoid being trampled over and emasculated/humiliated. There is also an aesthetic angle to this as most Indians, having a non-Aryan metabolism, are left with an unfit physique due to the lack of diversity of grains in their diet (e.g. millet).
Coming back to a Kshatriya abandoning their duty, I agree that one must be a militarist first and foremost, so dietary considerations would be secondary. But vegan food is more economical, thus more advantageous from a military perspective! If a Kshatriya does eat meat from an economical point of view, this would more closely resemble scavenging. But scavenging is what Buddhism advocates (which is ironically called "pacifist")!
In this way we see that the traditional Hindu view has more in common with Buddhism than Westernized right-wingers on the internet.
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"a "Brown" man "scoring" a "White" girl."
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/indian-attitudes/msg22112/#msg22112
"Vegetarianism"
The map I posted was not so much about individuals deciding whether or not to be vegetarian (which is subject to influence by the factors you have brought up), but about arguing that the greater frequency of the vegetarian allele indicates the superiority of the Indian gene pool as a whole. Both individuals who themselves choose not to be vegetarian and individuals who themselves choose to be vegan can make this impersonal argument. But I seem to be the only one actually doing so.....
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https://x.com/hukumyork/status/1641498001687584769?s=20
More Rajput inferiority:
Hukum Singh Rathore
@hukumyork
Why would I larp when my lineage is as authentic as my ancestors? Rajputs never were lindus, the word lindu itself a British construct didn’t exist before 18th century… Most of the Rajput clans of Northwestern India were folk worshipping animists or Buddhists befor Islam…
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Context:
UC- Upper caste
Bahujan - Dalit
https://twitter.com/Arya_Anviksha_/status/1703467410207191376
Āryā_Anvikṣā 🪷
@Arya_Anviksha_
If they denied giving shelter: The UC Indians denied giving me shelter because I am a Bahujan. The brahminical patriarchy must be smashed. Annihilate Caste✊
And if they give shelter: " UC Indian family with rules....drove me insane"
Why are some people so ungrateful?
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A "feminist" who eats eggs (produced by oppression of female chickens)..... ::)
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I have to apologize to Hindus and Indians in general for the disrespectful words i spoke against you. India is home to a people gifted with innate spiritual insight, and Hinduism is a great religion due to its rich and deep lore and its ethical dietary guidelines.
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https://twitter.com/G75375264G/status/1707203209607913856?t=0KpE74euXgoJ_BNFXdkpPA&s=19
Indra consumed meat , He also had master morality. Hindus cuck thier own race by making a virtue out of weakness . Someone who is harmless , meek , senile , eats grass is considered more orthodox than others who don't.
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Hindu Trad vs neo Vedicists (Indra worshippers/"Indrajeets"): (BTW "Kallu" means "black")
https://twitter.com/TradPikachu/status/1679793267733581825?t=lzWZJPbdaY2ahL480OXsFg&s=19
Neo Indrajeets wildin
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Ultimately Hinduism itself must be de Turanized to defeat Vedism but I fully support traditional Hinduism over Vedism.
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Hindus cuck thier own race
So instead of taking pride in one thing India does better than any other country in the world, let's be ashamed of it!
harmless
To use "harmless" with a negative connotation is literally inferring that proactively doing harm is positive.....
"Ultimately Hinduism itself must be de Turanized to defeat Vedism but I fully support traditional Hinduism over Vedism."
Yes, but calling it "traditional Hinduism" could make it sound like there was a pre-Vedic Hinduism which Vedism then corrupted, whereas in our narrative "traditional Hinduism" emerged from Sramanic influence on Vedism. Unless you have reason to doubt our narrative (do you?), I would recommend using a term that explicitly acknowledges and credits Sramanic influence (e.g. "Sramana-adjacent Hinduism"?), thereby encouraging pride in this. Ultimately, this goes back to encouraging people to imagine pre-Vedic-invasion India as superior.
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"Yes, but calling it "traditional Hinduism" could make it sound like there was a pre-Vedic Hinduism"
I meant "Hindu Traditonalism", sorry. You are correct.
"Unless you have reason to doubt our narrative (do you?), I would recommend using a term that explicitly acknowledges and credits Sramanic influence (e.g. "Sramana-adjacent Hinduism"?),"
Absolutely. A Hindu traditionalist has much more in common with a Jain than a Vedicist. While Hindu traditionalists regard the Vedas as the ultimate source of authority (in contrast to Jains), their interpretation of it has been much more liberal than the Neo-Vedicists (the former deriving their beliefs mostly from post-Vedic works such as the Upanishads and Smritis). However, because they regard the Vedas as the ultimate source of authority, their rebuttal to the Neo-Vedicists is to claim that they (Neo Vedicists) are the ones misinterpreting the scriptures (hence the Rgveda.pdf meme, i.e. the Neo Vedicists are supposedly merely "cherrypicking" snippets from a "poorly translated" PDF copy)! Of course, this will eventually backfire. The solution is, as you said acknowledge the Sramanic roots.
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Turanist trying to appropriate Indian beauty:
https://twitter.com/Indraalmighty/status/1695852209232388581 (video at link):
The jealAASI is quite visible, AASImaxxed woman wants to harm Steppe stacy because she wants to destroy everything beautiful and establish obesity/vulgarity as the status quo amongst young women.
Light skin + gracility =/= steppe.
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https://x.com/CursedRaitaTake/status/1584063191335960577?s=20
Niggas be like, "We need to go back to indra"
No my dear friend, we just need to go back to Indira and haul your ass to vasectomy clinic. Snip snip.
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"So instead of taking pride in one thing India does better than any other country in the world, let's be ashamed of it!"
That's Nietszcheanism for you. It's a shame that these Turanists are still able to appropriate the word "Aryan". All because of the Rgveda.
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Here is one approach to gradually de-Turanize Hinduism without rejecting the Vedas upfront:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_and_Jainism#The_Vedas
The Vedas
The scriptures known as Vedas are regarded by Hindus as one of the foundations of Hinduism. Those who rejected the Vedas as the prime source of religious knowledge were labeled "nāstika".[23] As a consequence, Jainism and Buddhism were categorized as nāstika darśana.[23]
The orthodox schools of Hinduism, such as Vedanta, Mimamsa and Samkhya, claim the Sruti do not have any author and hence are supreme to other religious scriptures. This position was countered by Jains who said that saying Vedas are authorless was equivalent to saying that anonymous poems are written by nobody. Jain scriptures, on the contrary, were believed by them to be of human origin, brought through omniscient teachers, and hence claimed greater worth.[24] According to Jains, the origin of Vedas lies with Marichi, the son of Bharata Chakravarti, who was the son of the first Tirthankara Rishabha. Jains maintain that these scriptures were later modified.[25][7] Jains pointed that Hindus do not know their own scriptures since they were unaware of the names of tirthankaras present in Vedas.[24]
Jains had a long-standing debate with Mimamsa school of Hinduism. Kumarila Bhatta, a proponent of Mimamsa school, argued that the Vedas are the source of all knowledge and it is through them that humans can differentiate between right and wrong. Jain monks, such as Haribhadra, held that humans are already in possession of all the knowledge, which only needs to be illuminated or uncovered in order to gain the status of omniscience.[26]
Perhaps some of the Vedic sages had some Suryavanshi blood?
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https://twitter.com/CursedRaitaTake/status/1673002064857960450
Critical Raita Theory
@CursedRaitaTake
To compare a daitya-worshipping occultist to a shankaracharya is near blasphemy in itself.
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https://twitter.com/zeneraalstuff/status/1708394428329816222
You won't be left alone. Remember this. Always.
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Replies:
https://x.com/shrikanth_krish/status/1708457455422788092?s=20
There's so much to be gained if India (across castes) becomes a mostly vegetarian country (like Gujarat, Rajasthan on an average)
Sure, it may mean sub-optimal diets for some. Also a break with tradition for many
But benefits are great. Homogenous culture. Loosening of endogamy
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https://twitter.com/AppscIITb/status/1708876897042723240
APPSC IIT Bombay
@AppscIITb
@iitbombay
has imposed a fine of Rs 10000 on the students who had stood against the food segregation policy of the institute by a peaceful act of individual civil disobedience. This action of the admin is similar to a Khap Panchayat acting to uphold untouchability in modern times
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"Civil disobedience", "food segregation"
No one is preventing you from sitting at the table.
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https://twitter.com/chakravartiin/status/1675842976206176256
Mr Melancholy
@chakravartiin
For every jeet doing medical research, charity, inventions and other things to improve the reputation of our people there are at least 100,000 subcon pajiits taking selfies with random hoes and joorking off to Korean tourist gorlz at any given time. Insurmountable odds NGL.
Squint Neon
@TheSquind
Indians making an onlyfan performer look like hollywood celebrity
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Replies:
https://x.com/Devendr22603897/status/1676077651025625089?s=20
Devendra
@Devendr22603897
if she is white, she is my goddess, i worship her.
-average indian jeet
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On a more serious note, however:
For every jeet doing medical research, charity, inventions and other things to improve the reputation of our people there are at least 100,000 subcon pajiits taking selfies
this is the real problem. I would rather add another 100000 selfie guys to the world if that could allow me to subtract one machinist. Selfies wouldn't even exist if not for machinists. Think about that.
(As for medical research, if it is Western medicine it probably involves experimenting on non-human victims.)
So the real question is: "improve the reputation of our people" in whose eyes? Westerners'? The last thing non-Westerners should want is to have a good reputation by Western standards.
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"inventions"
There are those who want inventions as a means to an end (i.e. to gain a competitive advantage (hard power) over the West so that they can ultimately destroy it), and those who want more inventions for the sake of it (Faustians)
"So the real question is: "improve the reputation of our people" in whose eyes? Westerners'? The last thing non-Westerners should want is to have a good reputation by Western standards."
This is a fair point. "Whites" will always view "non-Whites" as inferior even if the latter do not engage in such behavior.
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"There are those who want inventions as a means to an end (i.e. to gain a competitive advantage (hard power) over the West so that they can ultimately destroy it)"
I unreservedly support acquiring enemy inventions and using them against the enemy, but it is hard for me to endorse new inventions even for the aim of destroying the enemy. The enemy can also acquire our inventions and use them against us, so that any competitive advantage gained is momentary at best. Or worse, it would motivate the enemy to invent something even newer to counter it, and then we would have to invent something to counter that, and so on. The latter dynamic over time is likely to lead to selective pressure for Faustianism on both sides, which is what we are trying to avoid.
Furthermore, how realistically likely is our side to win such a competition at all, given that we are competing against a (very likely) heritably more machinist-dense gene pool? What I don't want to do is give our side a false hope that our chances at outcompeting Western civilization in machinism are any better than they actually are (statistically minimal), as holding such hopes could lead to wasteful overinvestment into this field, when the same limited resources could be better off invested into alternative strategies.
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I see what you are saying, but then why did Hitler invest in military R & D "superweapons"? Perhaps a strategic blunder on his part?
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Hitler was working with a gene pool of comparable heritable machinism-density to those of his main adversaries.
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I just came across this tweet, which I thought might be relevant to the discussion:
https://x.com/bvlldhist/status/1709607073854472503?s=20
☸️🇹🇭
@bvlldhist
Reading history will BPill you. All innovations in fortifications, millitary units, tactics & logistics were made by Euros, Mongol/Chinese. India made no dent on timeline of military history. The Mughal armies were also clumsy, mercenary & indisciplined in comparison
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https://x.com/kaliyuga_surfer/status/1626617449625038848?s=20
Kali Yuga Surfer
@kaliyuga_surfer
Indian leaders in the past carefully cultivated an image of India as an anti-imperialist power that cares for the 3rd world.
Indians online today are working hard to destroy that image by being extremely racist towards Africans, just to score some brownie points with whites.
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Israel In Awe Of ‘Influential Power India’; Thankful For Indians Volunteering To Fight Hamas
Israel's Ambassador to India Naor Gilon lauded New Delhi's support in its fight against Hamas. Gilon said that India comes from the position of a country that knows terrorism. He added that there were few Indians who were willing to volunteer to fight on behalf of Israel. Watch the video for more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01liREwbQ9M
Comments:
Such a BRAVE, STRONG, PATRIOTIC statement by the Israeli ambassador Naor Gilon!
True Warriors! Real men! Not the coward islamic terrorists of Palestine and their supporters.
VICTORY, SAFETY, STRENGTH, POWER, VITALITY, SOVEREIGNTY, INTEGRITY, RECOVERY AND LONG LIFE TO ISRAEL!⚔️💪🇮🇱🤝🇮🇳💪⚔️
Many Indians want to protect and defend Israel.🙏🙏🙏
You aren't needed. They are great... can managed themselves. You take care of your own judiciary system which is broken
As a Bhartiya I stand with victims of Israel, As a Indian i stand with our true friend Israel
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This wording:
Indian leaders in the past carefully cultivated an image of India as an anti-imperialist power that cares for the 3rd world.
almost implies that those past Indian leaders were not sincere about this either (and the tweeter does not seem bothered by the lack of sincerity).....
Unsurprisingly, the tweeter turns out to be a Duginist:
https://twitter.com/kaliyuga_surfer/status/1689690462461026304
and our enemy more generally:
https://twitter.com/kaliyuga_surfer/status/1598591887103127552
https://twitter.com/kaliyuga_surfer/status/1577680073083482112
etc.
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You are right. We know about Gandhi's views towards "Africans".
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https://x.com/chakravartiin/status/1710990943506374755?s=20
Mr Melancholy
@chakravartiin
The only real instance of widespread racism in India is the treatment of North East Indians by everybody and no one bats an eye. From chest-thumping nashunlists to BLM supporting leftist everyone engages in casual racism against them with a smile, absolutely disgusting.
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"https://twitter.com/kaliyuga_surfer/status/1598591887103127552"
https://twitter.com/v_flanker/status/1598694118527754246
Ahaa,then who inspired great warriors like Prithviraj Chauhan,Maharana Pratap, Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj,Sri Krishna Devaraya,Raja Raja Chola and many others, Is it Ramayana/Mahabharata or Rigveda??....this popularity with RV is nothing but Kanging, "Muh Superior Race"
It is worth mentioning that learning the Vedas is forbidden without being under the tutelage of a traditional teacher. This may be somewhat Brahmanical, but consider this: would Vedism be as popular in ancient India as it is today? It is because some Aryan blood prevailed in the Brahmins that they were able to offer more lenient rather than literalist interpretations leading to the eventual Sramanic adjacent schools of thought, or to use Nietzschean terminology, the "slave morality" of the "priestly class" in agrarian societies domesticating the "master morality" of the "warrior class" from the steppe. By subsequently restricting scholarship of the Vedas, they prevented those with ignoble intentions from using it for their ignoble goals.
Furthermore, to prevent Brahmins from abusing this privilege for their own gains, they were prohibited from acquiring wealth or political power.
Alas, the system failed to withstand corruption following colonialism. Brahmins rose in the bureaucracy and thus acquired political power and wealth, using it for their own selfish means.
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Israel In Awe Of ‘Influential Power India’; Thankful For Indians Volunteering To Fight Hamas
Israel's Ambassador to India Naor Gilon lauded New Delhi's support in its fight against Hamas. Gilon said that India comes from the position of a country that knows terrorism. He added that there were few Indians who were willing to volunteer to fight on behalf of Israel. Watch the video for more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01liREwbQ9M
Comments:
Such a BRAVE, STRONG, PATRIOTIC statement by the Israeli ambassador Naor Gilon!
True Warriors! Real men! Not the coward islamic terrorists of Palestine and their supporters.
VICTORY, SAFETY, STRENGTH, POWER, VITALITY, SOVEREIGNTY, INTEGRITY, RECOVERY AND LONG LIFE TO ISRAEL!⚔️💪🇮🇱🤝🇮🇳💪⚔️
Many Indians want to protect and defend Israel.🙏🙏🙏
You aren't needed. They are great... can managed themselves. You take care of your own judiciary system which is broken
As a Bhartiya I stand with victims of Israel, As a Indian i stand with our true friend Israel
These retards don't realize that Jews would see them the same way they see Palestinians (i.e. Goyim), but are willing to fight against Palestinians because of "muh Muslims". Deracinated degenerates worship any country that is "strong" and "nationalist".
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;D ;D ;D
https://twitter.com/TheMuslimSaiyan/status/1711356866385874994
The Muslim Saiyan
@TheMuslimSaiyan
☠️☠️☠️☠️
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Jew hits out against Indians:
https://twitter.com/Terror_Alarm/status/1680572809666240516
Terror Alarm
@Terror_Alarm
🇮🇱❌🇮🇳 | 2 points to refute this repulsive antisemitic tweet by a delusional Indian:
1. Israel will NEVER "relax" its holy traditions, especially not for pagans!
2. The Torah explicitly forbids marrying idol worshippers. That's literally committing genocide against fellow Jews.
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https://twitter.com/Terror_Alarm/status/1689018820407554048 (video at link):
Terror Alarm
@Terror_Alarm
🇮🇱❌🇮🇳 | Indian men must be banned from X, and the entire Internet! They just keep using the platform to carry out sexual harassment against Jewish women after every time they think they've "defended Israel against Islam".
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Caste system in Pakistan:
(https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360231520/figure/tbl1/AS:1153146315386882@1651942914071/Hierarchical-classification-of-castes-in-Pakistan-after-Rose-1911-40.png)
Quite the irony, that Islam, despite being casteless, has still failed to eradicate casteism. This is what happens when you have Central Asian Turkics (Turanians) adopting originally Aryan religions.
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https://twitter.com/hinduoncampus/status/1715026865545757102?t=8xOIlpBbWaadH4GDdhoMZw&s=19
ALERT: The daughter of a former Pakistani military general (responsible for the mass murder of Hindus in Bangladesh, 1971) is holding this teach at @UCRiverside accusing Hindus, OF THE VERY SAME THING HER OWN FATHER DID.
https://twitter.com/hinduoncampus/status/1715055313924305192?t=Jh9cW61Wg3mIONTXb3Jc-g&s=19
Disgusting lies. Pakistan is responsible for the killing of Palestinians but Huma remains silent. Read about Black September, 1970.
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Israel: How Hundreds Of Indian-Origin Soldiers Are Fighting For IDF Against Hamas, Hezbollah
An Indian-origin Israeli soldier, Natanel Touthang, suffered injuries in the eye and arm after being attacked by Hezbollah at the northern Israel-Lebanon border. The 26-year-old Israeli soldier, who was born and raised in Manipur, served as a reservist after migrating to Israel in 2018. Watch this video to know more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnGufLfesUo
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Praying for his recovery.😢
Best of luck warrior.
You are fighting against terrorists may you win ❤
Jai Hind 🇮🇳❤ 🇮🇱
Full Support from India ❤❤❤
THESE MEN ARE OF SUCH HIGH CALIBER THAT COMBAT IS NEEDED AS PART OF THEIR TRAINING. THEY MUST BE VOLUNTEERED TO GO INTO INTENSELY DANGEROUS FIGHTING AS PART OF THEIR CORE EXISTANCE TO BECOME BATTLE HARDENED. THEY DO NOT GET NEAR THE RESPECT THAT THEY DESERVE.
Hence.. Terrorists came on bikes, Gliders and cars and killed 1400 and took 200+ with them.. even kidnapped some soldiers.. ??
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Great caliber of Israeli defence. ??
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You people should know their are prices to pay for actions of disrespect.
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https://twitter.com/CursedRaitaTake/status/1641865987166470146?t=furZYxWmscmmJixBcy6VuQ&s=19
It's kinda crazy how there was a time when indians used to be offended about Americans confusing sardars for muslim terrorists. And the history/cultural experts like the one below would smugly correct them.
Now it has come full circle and we do this stereotype ourselves:
https://twitter.com/Arya_Anviksha_/status/1641441922219921410?t=N08XIGHcDJCdD_jjHDPIWQ&s=19
Both are same.
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I never understood Indian antagonism toward Arabs in the first place. OBL literally looks like an Indian! (As do many many gulf Arabs (esp. Yemenis)). Indians will cite poor treatment of and racism towards them by gulf Arabs (which is true), but this is mainly due to the latter's Bedouin blood. I hope this stereotype can be shattered, but I am currently figuring out how.
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"I never understood Indian antagonism toward Arabs in the first place."
Peaceful ancient relations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Oman_relations
Trade between India and Oman has a history of several millenniums and archaeological excavations in Oman have unearthed evidence to show Indo-Oman trade in the during the Classical Age dated to circa third century BCE.[4] Later, Oman had links with the Indian through Gujarat, and with Tamilakam along the Malabar Coast.
Victims of the same Western colonial powers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oman#Portuguese_era
A decade after Vasco da Gama's successful voyage around the Cape of Good Hope and to India in 1497–98, the Portuguese arrived in Oman and occupied Muscat for a 143-year period, from 1507 to 1650. In need of an outpost to protect their sea lanes, the Portuguese built up and fortified the city, where remnants of their Portuguese architectural style still exist. Later, several more Omani cities were colonized in the early 16th century by the Portuguese, to control the entrances of the Persian Gulf and trade in the region as part of a web of fortresses in the region, from Basra to Hormuz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oman#British_de_facto_colonisation
In 1854, a deed of cession of the Omani Kuria Muria islands to Britain was signed by the sultan of Muscat and the British government.[75] The British government achieved predominating control over Muscat, which, for the most part, impeded competition from other nations.[76] Between 1862 and 1892, the Political Residents, Lewis Pelly and Edward Ross, played an instrumental role in securing British supremacy over the Persian Gulf and Muscat by a system of indirect governance.[69] By the end of the 19th century, and with the loss of its African dominions and its revenues, British influence increased to the point that the sultans became heavily dependent on British loans and signed declarations to consult the British government on all important matters.[71][77][78][79] The Sultanate thus came de facto under the British sphere.[78][80]
If the Indians who dislike Arabs are those who like Portugese/British, then it is understandable (they are just worshipping the colonizers). But if the Indians who dislike Arabs are those who also dislike Portugese/British, then further study is necessary.
"I hope this stereotype can be shattered, but I am currently figuring out how."
Arab cinema is still trying to get off the ground:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_cinema
Arab cinema or Arabic cinema (Arabic: السينما العربية, romanized: al-sīnemā al-ʿArabīyah) refers to the film industry of the Arab world which depends for most of its production on the Egyptian cinema.[1][2][3][4]
Why does India not deploy its immensely powerful film industry (which the Egyptian film industry cannot even compare with) to help out, and at the same time introduce Indian audiences to more Arab talent than most of them are currently familiar with?
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"further study is necessary"
I pointed out Islamophobia in another thread. This is not helped by the fact that the Gulf countries support many Islamists (most of whom are anti-Hindu) in India.
BTW, check out this embarrassment:
https://youtu.be/7ZBG-UlGmNE
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https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/10/27/shifting-politics-make-india-a-hotbed-for-israel-hamas-war-misinformation
Shifting politics make India a hotbed for Israel-Hamas war misinformation
On October 7, within hours of the armed group Hamas launching a surprise attack on Israel, social media platforms were rife with support for Israel – and also fake news.
What stood out in the clamour was the fact that a fair amount of it was produced and distributed by accounts from India.
In the days after Israel declared war on Hamas, a blue-tick-verified handle posted a video on the social media platform X of a Pakistani parliamentarian threatening to obliterate Israel with an “atom bomb” if it did not end its atrocities against Muslims. That video received more than 840,000 views. But it was from 2021 and is not related to the current war.
Similarly, Suresh Chavhanke, editor-in-chief of Sudarshan News, a right-wing channel, shared a clip on X of an Israeli representative tearing up a 20-page United Nations report documenting human rights violations. That too was from 2021.
Experts say the Israel-Hamas war has given a massive reach to social media accounts in India – both large and small – that have managed to ride a wave of anti-Muslim and pro-Israel fervour.
Apoorvanand, a Delhi University professor who goes by one name, perceives a link between current “anti-Muslim sentiment” and the rise of Hindu nationalist ideologies like Hindutva
Hindutva supporters, he said, “hold Muslims across countries responsible for all the ills and everything bad. They’ve started looking at Israel as an ideal, as a model to be followed because Israel does what it wants to do to Muslims”.
A “generational shift” has taken place in India
Over the last decade, Blarel has observed that the country has grown more fascinated with Israel, including how it defends itself against attacks from its neighbours.
That situation has particular resonance in India, according to Blarel. In addition to border incursions from China in the east, India has also been subject to attacks on its western flank by what it says are state-supported armed groups in Pakistan. The two nuclear-armed nations have been locked in an ongoing conflict for control of the disputed territory of Kashmir.
“Terrorismracism is the thing that’s brought the BJP closer to Israel over the last few years – how to better deal with counterterrorism,” said Blarel.
As a result, India’s political sphere has transformed from “an exclusive pro-Palestine ecosystem to the complete opposite and to one that is completely empathetic with [the] Israeli position” today, he explained.
Indeed, India had supported Palestine’s right to statehood since 1947, when it gained independence from the United Kingdom.
However, in the past few years, India and Israel have started inching closer.
Trade and innovation have also drawn the two countries together.
Israel has also been a supplier of arms to India
Modi added that “India strongly and unequivocally condemns terrorism in all its forms and manifestations”.
They send the message that Muslims are “the perpetrators of all sorts of crimes and less than human beings.
Swain also sees the statements as a demonstration of the common ground Modi shares with far-right politicians in Israel.
“They also have a common factor – Islamophobia – which also binds them together.”
Due to your large numbers, you people are again giving me problems
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We used to be shocked at Jews mocking the death of children, but now Indians are doing the same:
https://twitter.com/KakaAramdevp/status/1718605564874489986?t=SXErx404EYXsPh9gBjQfuQ&s=19
A man named Yash, who was behind this vile twitter account @Smokingskills07, is no more in his 30s
Remember, Karma is Real. Never mock anyone's Dèáth.
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The account was most likely a "Hindu Nationalist", so definitely not someone who likes British rule. The only possible explanation is subhuman racial memory.
At this point I am becoming ashamed of being of Indian origin tbh.
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https://twitter.com/lov4ym/status/1718201657232965864?t=5UEJPNyv3XU9wfXh4LCDOA&s=19
shame on india, we went from being the first non-arab country to recognise and support the PLO in the 70s and now we abstain from voting to cease fire? shame on the present union government and all the people who chose them
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Sikh Zionists exposed:
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So many self interested parties in India trying to insert their own causes into this (Dravidian "nationalists", False Leftist "anti caste" activists). This obscures the fact that #FreePalestine is an anti-colonial cause.
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I have to apologize again for my hurtful words to Indian people, it's understandable that many Indians don't like muslims due to the strained relationship between India and Pakistan, which is a Islamic country. I should focus my energy on the main threat, which is the western colonizer.
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https://youtu.be/2-nEeaMiz2Q
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Hundreds Of Indian Jews Join Israel's War Against Hamas; 'Want To Fight Shoulder-To-Shoulder'
More than 200 Indian Jews, members of the Bnei Menashe community, have joined the Israeli Defence Forces. According to reports, 75% of the recent immigrants from India have been enlisted in combat units, while 140 were called up for reserve service across Israel. Watch this report for more details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kq878_1Luc
'Sure, you can fight shoulder-to-shoulder with us, just drink this first please!'
Israel Admits Targeting Ethiopian Jews for Compulsory Contraception
https://www.geneticsandsociety.org/biopolitical-times/israel-admits-targeting-ethiopian-jews-compulsory-contraception
Israel Forcibly Injected African Immigrants with Birth Control, Report Claims
https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/?sh=25c6594667b8
Or, is it more like: 'Take this shot first please, then charge that bunker over there, we'll be right behind you!'
;D
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https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/gaza-war-why-are-there-synergies-between-indian-right-wing-pro-israel-social-media-accounts/3048381
Gaza war: Why are there ‘synergies’ between Indian right-wing, pro-Israel social media accounts?
A lot of fake news and widely shared tweets about the ongoing crisis are from Indian journalists, disinformation expert Marc Owen Jones tells Anadolu
- Indian right wing using Israel-Hamas conflict to ‘stoke fear of Muslims among Hindus,’ says Bharat Nayak, Indian journalist and fact-checker
- Indian media’s coverage of Gaza ‘relied heavily on Israeli talking points, tropes and disinformation,’ says journalist and author Azad Essa
- Social media firms have long struggled to contain misinformation and are struggling again, says Irina Raicu, digital ethics expert in US
Jones also pointed out what he called “a peculiar aspect” of the ongoing information war, specifically the “synergies between Indian right-wing accounts and pro-Israel accounts, who are magnifying information.”
This, in his view, is a reflection of the “Islamophobic policies” and “anti-Muslim rhetoric” in India.
“A lot of fake news and widely shared tweets are from Indian journalists, and there are also a lot of Indian journalists now in Israel,” said Jones.
In the current crisis, Jones said Israel “seems unashamed in spreading disinformation, something they have done before but never on this scale.”
His assessment was backed by Bharat Nayak, an Indian journalist and fact-checker, who said there has been a clear surge in pro-Israel messaging from Indian accounts on all major platforms, including X, Facebook and WhatsApp.
Citing examples, he said the content of these messages covers claims such as Israel saving India during the 1999 Kargil war with Pakistan, similarities between Hinduism and Judaism
Love for Israel and being anti-Muslims has become synonymous
Azad Essa, a South African journalist and author, said the current Israel-Hamas conflict has come “at a time in which India-Israel ties are the most developed they have ever been.”
“India now co-produces Israeli weapons, and since 2017, the two countries have been in a strategic alliance, in which they have cooperated on tech, start-ups, water management, agriculture … in almost every field at this point.”
On social media, he said “thousands of Hindu nationalist trolls have dehumanized Palestinians,” stressing that they jumped on what they saw as an “opportunity to demonize Muslims in India and link the entire community to terrorism.”
“They see themselves as fighting the same war, be it against Muslims in India, in Kashmir or in Pakistan. Love for Israel and being anti-Muslim has therefore become synonymous,” said Essa.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBnrpEMwA2o
Worth mentioning that even Eurocentrists Gandhi and Nehru seemed to have supported Palestine. Perhaps their support was insincere?
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https://twitter.com/ManFromMuiz/status/1724821892660396491?t=pT61zk1P7yjVPONcmh58IQ&s=19
Zionism is much closer to Khalistani separatism or Pakistani ethnic cleansing of hindus than it is to Hindutva
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https://twitter.com/copechandani/status/1701239638604587138?t=pnqlsDFZAg8a_cXXjV_qZw&s=19
That's cool but Khalistan is more jatt ethnostate, less "homeland for sikhs" as @king_julian_luv is pointing out.
They're ethnic chauvinists. Which is why most Sikhs themselves oppose their bs.
Their subalts are just more cleaner than other subalts who do ethnic kanging
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https://twitter.com/HeimlerD/status/1487823392225075201?t=f1jq6hhgZXezo42g2Qnzxg&s=19
TNPF protest in north of the island demanding a Tamil only ethnostate, “tamil homel”
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Zionism is much closer to Khalistani separatism or Pakistani ethnic cleansing of hindus than it is to Hindutva
Yet Pakistan supports Palestine, not Israel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Pakistan_relations
The State of Israel and the Islamic Republic of Pakistan have never had formal diplomatic relations. In 1947, Pakistan voted against the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine, and currently does not recognize Israeli sovereignty.
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The decade of 1930's witnessed significant developments on Palestine under leadership of Muhammad Ali Jinnah. League, under Jinnah, not only broadened its basis among the masses but also took up Palestine issue through various measures inside and outside India. Jinnah and Allama Muhammad Iqbal put Palestine issue on top of agenda list of the meetings and sessions and opined that 'Balfour Declaration was unjust'.[11][12] When the Lahore Resolution was passed in March 1940 by the AIML, Jinnah also permitted a resolution on the status of Palestine to be moved, whereby support for the Palestinian cause was reaffirmed.[13][14] Just a few days after partition, Jinnah announced to send a delegation to Cairo under Abdur Rehman Siddiqui to participate in Inter-Parliamentary World Congress on Palestine to be held in last week of August 1947. Furthermore, Zafrullah Khan was sent to represent Pakistan in the United Nations. He attended deliberations of UN Ad Hoc Committee over Palestine and vividly declared Balfour Declaration as illegitimate and clearly rejected partition of Palestine that Pakistan would not accept that unjust plan.[11]
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Initial contact between Pakistani diplomats in London and representatives of Israel along with various Jewish organizations was made in early 1950.[19] The Pakistani government was asked to issue passage permits to India for a few hundred Jews who wished to leave Afghanistan and emigrate to Israel.[19] The government rejected the request and the Afghan Jews left through Iran.[19][11]
In 1952, Pakistani foreign minister Muhammad Zafarullah Khan promoted hardline state policies against Israel, and advocated for Pakistan's unwavering support for the Palestinians in the Arab–Israeli conflict.[19]
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During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Israel's diplomatic mission in Washington received information that Pakistan was trying to provide military assistance to the Palestinians alongside rumours that a Pakistani military battalion would be sent to Palestine to fight the Israelis. Pakistan had apparently bought 250,000 rifles in Czechoslovakia that were meant for the Arabs, and a later discovery revealed that Pakistan had bought three military-grade aircraft in Italy for the Egyptians.[20][19]
The Pakistan Air Force sent a group of its fighter pilots to engage the Israelis in combat during the 1967 Six-Day War and the 1973 Yom Kippur War, greatly bolstering the Palestinians who were suffering repeated defeats to the Israel Defense Forces. A Pakistani fighter pilot, Saiful Azam, had shot down at least four Israeli fighter planes during the Six-Day War.[21] After the Yom Kippur War, Pakistan and the PLO signed an agreement for training PLO officers in Pakistani military institutions.[22] During the 1982 Israel-Lebanon War, irregular Pakistani volunteers served in the PLO and 50 were taken prisoner during the Siege of Beirut.
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Daniel Pearl, a Jewish American journalist, was assassinated by elements with backing from Pakistan's ISI over his alleged role in attempting to gather information linking a continued relationship between the ISI and the Taliban.[25]
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Pakistan's religiously-oriented political parties such as Jamaat-e-Islami and militant groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba fiercely oppose any relationship with Israel, and have repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel due to its standing as an alleged sworn enemy of Pakistan.[28][29]
As for hypothetical Khalistan, would it recognize Israel if established? This is a matter of speculation, but the Khalistani movement has a record of siding with Pakistan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan_movement#Pakistan
The Sikh separatist leader Jagjit Singh Chohan said that during his talks with Pakistani prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto affirmed "all out help" to the Khalistan cause, because he wanted revenge for Pakistan's defeat in Indo-Pakistani War of 1971.[9]
so it is at least a realistic possibility that Khalistan could decide to follow Pakistan in not recognizing Israel.
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Fair points, but one cannot ignore the identitarian elements in Pakistan (for example the Bangladeshi genocide which ethnically targeted lower caste "kaale" (black) Bengalis). Also this:
www.newarab.com/analysis/why-pakistan-mass-deporting-afghan-refugees%3famp
And as we have seen with Saudi Arabia, refusal to recognize Israel does not mean non complicity with Zionism (in the case of Pakistan, with the "War on Terror" against Afghanistan).
But perhaps this is not an indictment of Pakistan itself but certain rogue elements within (i.e. especially those in the military who think of themselves as superior for belonging to a "martial caste" (term invented by the British to give ranks to the traitors who loyally served the British "Indian" Army)).
As for Khalistan, I posted a few posts earlier about how they viewed Israel as their model.
I do agree that Islamism is much better primed to defeat Zionism than Hindutva, mainly because the former is compatible with statism, while the latter started out as an explicitly pro Zionist ideology and is also democratic. Islam itself seems to be much more compatible with statism then Hinduism, the latter having devolved into a Vedic "karma" slave mentality that convinces it's adherents to passively submit to oppression, or alternatively, only lash out against other former victims of colonialism. Even China has a stronger statist foundation (i.e. legalism) than India tbh. Thus while one can appreciate the Aryanist leanings in Hinduism, it's lack of "lightning" makes it practically useless in defeating Western Civilization.
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https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/sex-jehad-religion-in-pornographic-videos/300378/amp
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xenophilia has been known through history, fuelled sometimes by a sense of inferiority about the self
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India has its own versions of these underlying fears and animosities. The idea of love jehad—in the minds of those who believe it—essentially flows from the fear of the ‘handsome Muslim man’ seducing ‘our girls’. (The unstated, part-racial logic is: the latter obviously can’t help falling for the lure because the men, after all, are handsome—unlike ‘us’.)
Gravure (in which the performers are portrayed as unattainable by all) is the solution:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/eroticism-sexuality/
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https://twitter.com/NVajjhala/status/1689280377385340928 (video at link)
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Yes, I posted about this guy earlier in the thread.
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^ ::) ;D
Why has India’s Narendra Modi strengthened ties with Israel? | UpFront
India has traditionally been a supporter of Palestinian rights, so it was a surprise when, amid Israel’s deadly air strikes, India abstained from a vote on the United Nations resolution calling for a ceasefire.
Early in his premiership, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi established warm relations with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and has been a strong ally in what appears to be a repositioning of India’s traditional stance.
What is behind this shift? Why is Modi building such strong ties with Netanyahu?
On UpFront this week, Professor Nitasha Kaul of the Centre for the Study of Democracy at the University of Westminster talks with Marc Lamont Hill about the politics behind India’s new ties with Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqwy2iE7er4
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Mr. Modi's alignment with Israel in support of Adani marks a shift from India's longstanding support for Palestine.
“Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it” I wonder if they ever learn who were the real owners of East India Company?
Both Mohdi and Nuttyahoo have the same contempt for Islam and to some degree Arabs, and Mohdi wants weapons.
True Indians 🇮🇳 always with Palestine 🇵🇸
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Rare Indian W:
https://theprint.in/diplomacy/israel-writes-to-indian-govt-over-shiv-sena-ubt-mp-sanjay-rauts-hitler-post/1857414/
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https://twitter.com/vajra_indra/status/1675975538845052929?t=tk-cZcI8tgN_7BnGOPcodg&s=19
Truth is, #IndianArmy cadets are deracinated, imbibed with colonial mindset and taught to look down on Indian Civilizational values and people. Military academy teaches them how to hold spoon and a fork and copy West strategies. Not much has changed since days of the 'sepoys
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https://twitter.com/empireenjoyer10/status/1713969819341422767
Eurasian Emperor
@empireenjoyer10
The HinJew master race is awakening.
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Imagine being proud of this lol:
https://twitter.com/indianaftali/status/1705639809232851327
India Naftali
@indianaftali
🇮🇱🇮🇳 Do you know about the Battle of Haifa? This battle drastically changed the course of WW1.
In this historic confrontation on September 23, 1918, Indian regiments under the British Army were instrumental in liberating the city of Haifa from the grip of Ottoman and German forces.
Today, India and Israel honor the fallen Indian soldiers who gave their lives to liberate Haifa.
May their memory be a blessing.🕯️
Special thanks to
@haifacity
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https://twitter.com/IndiccAmsha/status/1719731838544216430 (Thread)
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https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/1441680892750094337?t=a378q78PidQUMVq79i--AA&s=19
Pakistan Islamic cleric Tariq Masood @Muftitm mocks #Hinduism inside a #Hindu Temple in Pakistan-occupied #Balochistan.
Watch him refer to Hindus as “dark-skinned” vegetarians as he exhibits racist anti-Black attitude common to most Pak Punjabis.
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Northeastern woman thrashes Indian racists in Kashmir, racists beg for forgiveness:
https://youtu.be/zNvN4KVgzRg
If Indians don't stop being racist against these Northeasterners, autocratic China should invade and take Sikkim:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_border_dispute#Sikkim
Indians will then have demonstrated that they (or democracy, really) are incapable of multiethnic society.
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This is pretty funny ngl:
https://twitter.com/ArainGang/status/1655958986640744449
ArainGang
@ArainGang
The difference between Pakistan and India is illustrated by the contrasting stature of their government officials.
India selects nerds who are capable of running a modern country, Pakistan selects tribal chiefs who can wrestle a small Buffalo to the ground.
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Returning to this:
https://twitter.com/IndiccAmsha/status/1719731838544216430
To summarize, it seems that the Israel issue has only worsened the image of Indians in the eyes of those from other non-Western countries. Indians are now subject to even more abuse and bigotry online.
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It seems that the Jews have been able to dupe these slavish Indians by feeding them Goy Biscuits.
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Bangladesh literally wouldn't exist as a nation without India, but oh well.. Guess these people would rather identify with the rapists of their mothers than Indians. Basically, creator worship.
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https://twitter.com/chakravartiin/status/1732792277016399996?t=29A7CEHLIWgvRQt0OKu8Pw&s=19
While you exploit your own people's misery to spread your propaganda NDRF India, Indian army, Indian Navy, Indian Air force & Indian coast guard are putting themselves at great risk to save lives. Many of them come from north but they never question where they are going.
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https://twitter.com/puram_politics/status/1732670273550229914
Puram
@puram_politics
If a densely populated city in the Global South receives 500 mm of rain in 24 hours, like Madras did, it’s going to flood. That’s not in question.
The question is: should we send so much of our tax money to Uttar Pradesh when our own lives are in such peril?
This North vs. South India conflict has got to be the most retarded conflict in modern politics.
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Pakistani turanists are brainwashed by Mughal and False "islamic" teachings that were supported by the British and Pakistani elites since independence. Many of the actions of the Mughals and Ottomans alike were influenced by jewish ideas.
No wonder I keep repeating Islam, as much as Christianity has been poisoned by jewish venom, that even islamic revivalists often do not see.
I personally favour less orthodox, non traditional, non liberal forms of Islam, especially sufi movement.
Sufis have produced some of the bravest warriors in Islamic history, and this is due to their spiritual power not being polluted by judeo-christian "ideas".
Pakistanis want to identify as Turko Mongols in their pathological hatred for India denying that they are basically indians and Hindus.
It is part of the British colonial legacy whe we must dismantle.
The enemy is not India nor the hindus, but their own pseudo muslim preachers and secular western elites.
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I warn you islamists of the Subcontinent, the Hindu nationalists may be wrong in attacking muslims, but do not make me start speaking on what muslims have done themselves historically to hindus and non muslims. Because as True left and National socialists we support the cause of Islam and the muslims, it does not mean all Muslums or muslim rulers have acted on noble principles and motives and muslims are always the innocent side.
Do not use the ignorance of Hindu nationalists who have allied with Israel fooled by the premise that Jews are the "least violent" abrahamic religion, when in fact the whole war for exterminating and dominating goys (gentiles) and thus by christianity to exterminate the heathens and muslims to subdue the kaffirs (any non muslim many of whom are noble and aryans), this whole concept is the jewish poison within Islam and many useful goyish muslims are following the same victim card as Israel does "to defend themselves".
India has nothing to do with Israel.
It was the fault of the traitor Gandhi and Nehru that did not allow the full population exchange after 1947 so all muslims could go to West and East Pakistan (Bangladesh) and Hindus and non muslims to India.
I have already criticized the BJP for failing to realize that Judaism is the root cause for all this venomous thought amongst muslims and christians, which has affected the hindus too, whom historically have been the most open minded people towards others. Sometimes I say to the muslims enough is enough. And Dugin of course has his eyes on India, same as he did with chechens by sending them to fight on Russia's behest on Ukraine or muslim useful idiots who fought for the Colonial powers in WW1 and WW2. So do not come here and say all muslims are pure anti tribalists, non racists. Because I can show you that tribalism and racism and all those toxic jewish inspired qualities exist amongst many muslims in the world, especially Subcontinent. I have even advocated peace between India Pakistan and China, excluding Russia and DESTROYING BRICS.
But it is not only the hindus, who have genuine victims of both colonialism and brutal islamic invasions, many of whom so many muslims glorify as they fought a kind of just jihad in the cause of Allah, when in fact they fought for their own greed and dominance. And as for Modi's rise to power, finally Hindus have abandoned that fake secularism and fake Ahimsa, and fake "co-existence" and pacifism of Gandhism and Congress rule and assuming real Ahimsa.
Meanwhile Pakistan, and its ruling elite, the Pak Army has brainwashed the pakistani and to a large extent that propaganda has reached indian and bangladeshi muslims to destroy India since day one.
There are many muslim countries like there, go and live there. Otherwise be respectful to Hindus, instead calling them kaffirs and pagans (does not this speech sound similar to jews calling gentiles the same way, and christians calling heathens the same way?)
Do you now realize why hindus hate Islam and Christianity to such an extent. They did not come and colonize or invade your land, your ancestors did, whom majority of you glorify.
The only big error of Hindu nationalists is this: falling in Russia's and Israel's trap, one wants it not to have good relations with China and Pakistan but be in a state of permanent communal turmoil, which not only hindus but muslims keep boiling and are equally guilty, and 2nd not to realize that if there horrific toxicity within Christianity and even Islam it is because much of their foundations are jewish, whether muslims or christians deny this or not.
I am here not AGAINST MUSLIMS AND NOT AGAINST HINDUS, NOR I SUPPORT HINDUS IN THEIR BLIND BUT UNDERSTANDEABLE HATE, NOR THIS VICTIM CARD PLAYED BY THE MUSLIMS which does nothing but add fuel to the fire.
And about Kerala, many of them spread wahhabism which is nothing but a western corrupted form of Islam in Pakistan and India.
Many hindus though are starting to realize Judaism is the core of all these gentile "abrahamic" invasions and colonizations and are not supporting Israel anymore.
The next step is to work with brainwashed Subcontinent muslims to adapt more heterodox non liberal less judaized forms of Islam such as sufism, especially heterodox sufism but also some forms of sunni sufism and shia sufism as well as Gnostic/Positive Christianity or any christian sect that deny the jewish venom in them.
I say this to the useful IDIOTS amongst muslims like chechens fighting for Russia in Ukraine, like those who fought in WW1 and WW2 for the Antante and Allies, the same I say for the christians and hindus and everyone.
Stop your tears. India belongs to the Hindus and all dharmic faiths. If muslims and christians cannot tolerate Hindus rejecting fake gandhian pacifism, this is my suggestion, recognize that mainstream islam is judaized to the core, including the Shariah of Islam. Learn to live with the Hindus and accept them and not impose on them your ways as The Mughals used to do and the British used to do. And do not compare India with Israel.
I am working to save not only India for Israel's and Russia's tentacles, but Pakistan too from Western's tentacles and free the common oppressed pakistanis from their pro western elites.
I guarantee you no average Pakistani or Indian want war. Pakistanis and Indians have the same blood, ancestors, culture, food etc despite pretending otherwise fueled by sectarian politics.
I am for the establishment of a True Islamic Pakistan that is a just and powerful nuclear state for all its citizens muslims and non muslims and India a Hindu/Dharmic state for all its citizens, for a permanent peace with themselves, for pacification between India and China and Isolation of Russia and Israel, and our work is to turn the US into a non western state, where native americans are again prominent in american society, justice is rendered to them.
Justice will not come by crying on communal divisions created by Western Imperialists but through eleminating the root disease.
The day a truly Islamic Pakistan and truly Hindu India pacify, and normalize their ties, all this muslim vs hindu non sense will end and if there are still people not satisfied, anyone can go anywhere and migrate, where they feel they belong to that folk where they feel part of that nation.
The situation in the Subcontinent, is created by the Western and jewish virus, and supported by Russian duginist strategy, and it has nothing to do with Palestine vs Jews which is a different issue.
Pakistanis And Indians are indigenous people and they are far more similar than different.
I hope India also pacifies with China and Pakistan and China allies with the US, and the US stops being the western international police state on behalf of the jews and Israel while Russia can expand once again.
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I warn you islamists of the Subcontinent, the Hindu nationalists may be wrong in attacking muslims, but do not make me start speaking on what muslims have done themselves historically to hindus and non muslims. Because as True left and National socialists we support the cause of Islam and the muslims, it does not mean all Muslums or muslim rulers have acted on noble principles and motives and muslims are always the innocent side.
Do not use the ignorance of Hindu nationalists who have allied with Israel fooled by the premise that Jews are the "least violent" abrahamic religion, when in fact the whole war for exterminating and dominating goys (gentiles) and thus by christianity to exterminate the heathens and muslims to subdue the kaffirs (any non muslim many of whom are noble and aryans), this whole concept is the jewish poison within Islam and many useful goyish muslims are following the same victim card as Israel does "to defend themselves".
India has nothing to do with Israel.
It was the fault of the traitor Gandhi and Nehru that did not allow the full population exchange after 1947 so all muslims could go to West and East Pakistan (Bangladesh) and Hindus and non muslims to India.
I have already criticized the BJP for failing to realize that Judaism is the root cause for all this venomous thought amongst muslims and christians, which has affected the hindus too, whom historically have been the most open minded people towards others. Sometimes I say to the muslims enough is enough. And Dugin of course has his eyes on India, same as he did with chechens by sending them to fight on Russia's behest on Ukraine or muslim useful idiots who fought for the Colonial powers in WW1 and WW2. So do not come here and say all muslims are pure anti tribalists, non racists. Because I can show you that tribalism and racism and all those toxic jewish inspired qualities exist amongst many muslims in the world, especially Subcontinent. I have even advocated peace between India Pakistan and China, excluding Russia and DESTROYING BRICS.
But it is not only the hindus, who have genuine victims of both colonialism and brutal islamic invasions, many of whom so many muslims glorify as they fought a kind of just jihad in the cause of Allah, when in fact they fought for their own greed and dominance. And as for Modi's rise to power, finally Hindus have abandoned that fake secularism and fake Ahimsa, and fake "co-existence" and pacifism of Gandhism and Congress rule and assuming real Ahimsa.
Meanwhile Pakistan, and its ruling elite, the Pak Army has brainwashed the pakistani and to a large extent that propaganda has reached indian and bangladeshi muslims to destroy India since day one.
There are many muslim countries like there, go and live there. Otherwise be respectful to Hindus, instead calling them kaffirs and pagans (does not this speech sound similar to jews calling gentiles the same way, and christians calling heathens the same way?)
Do you now realize why hindus hate Islam and Christianity to such an extent. They did not come and colonize or invade your land, your ancestors did, whom majority of you glorify.
The only big error of Hindu nationalists is this: falling in Russia's and Israel's trap, one wants it not to have good relations with China and Pakistan but be in a state of permanent communal turmoil, which not only hindus but muslims keep boiling and are equally guilty, and 2nd not to realize that if there horrific toxicity within Christianity and even Islam it is because much of their foundations are jewish, whether muslims or christians deny this or not.
I am here not AGAINST MUSLIMS AND NOT AGAINST HINDUS, NOR I SUPPORT HINDUS IN THEIR BLIND BUT UNDERSTANDEABLE HATE, NOR THIS VICTIM CARD PLAYED BY THE MUSLIMS which does nothing but add fuel to the fire.
And about Kerala, many of them spread wahhabism which is nothing but a western corrupted form of Islam in Pakistan and India.
Many hindus though are starting to realize Judaism is the core of all these gentile "abrahamic" invasions and colonizations and are not supporting Israel anymore.
The next step is to work with brainwashed Subcontinent muslims to adapt more heterodox non liberal less judaized forms of Islam such as sufism, especially heterodox sufism but also some forms of sunni sufism and shia sufism as well as Gnostic/Positive Christianity or any christian sect that deny the jewish venom in them.
I say this to the useful IDIOTS amongst muslims like chechens fighting for Russia in Ukraine, like those who fought in WW1 and WW2 for the Antante and Allies, the same I say for the christians and hindus and everyone.
Stop your tears. India belongs to the Hindus and all dharmic faiths. If muslims and christians cannot tolerate Hindus rejecting fake gandhian pacifism, this is my suggestion, recognize that mainstream islam is judaized to the core, including the Shariah of Islam. Learn to live with the Hindus and accept them and not impose on them your ways as The Mughals used to do and the British used to do. And do not compare India with Israel.
I am working to save not only India for Israel's and Russia's tentacles, but Pakistan too from Western's tentacles and free the common oppressed pakistanis from their pro western elites.
I guarantee you no average Pakistani or Indian want war. Pakistanis and Indians have the same blood, ancestors, culture, food etc despite pretending otherwise fueled by sectarian politics.
I am for the establishment of a True Islamic Pakistan that is a just and powerful nuclear state for all its citizens muslims and non muslims and India a Hindu/Dharmic state for all its citizens, for a permanent peace with themselves, for pacification between India and China and Isolation of Russia and Israel, and our work is to turn the US into a non western state, where native americans are again prominent in american society, justice is rendered to them.
Justice will not come by crying on communal divisions created by Western Imperialists but through eleminating the root disease.
The day a truly Islamic Pakistan and truly Hindu India pacify, and normalize their ties, all this muslim vs hindu non sense will end and if there are still people not satisfied, anyone can go anywhere and migrate, where they feel they belong to that folk where they feel part of that nation.
The situation in the Subcontinent, is created by the Western and jewish virus, and supported by Russian duginist strategy, and it has nothing to do with Palestine vs Jews which is a different issue.
Pakistanis And Indians are indigenous people and they are far more similar than different.
I hope India also pacifies with China and Pakistan and China allies with the US, and the US stops being the western international police state on behalf of the jews and Israel while Russia can expand once again.
I applaud you for trying to reach a middle ground in all the subcontinent and its religious affairs, muslims have a case now for oppression by hindus but it should not be forgotten how they both suffered and resisted british and portugese colonialism. In the past turanians invaded india several times, i'm not calling them muslims, and neither should you, because it's the blood that compelled them, not the religion, i'm sure you can make ethnic aware hindus realize this, that rather than islam, it was the vedics and then later the turco-mongols who invaded the subcontinent, and then even later the westerners who really aren't that different to the previous two groups... Anyways, please keep it up, your effort is appreciated.
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This dick-measuring needs to stop:
https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1733754890076221566
Aryāṃśa
@arya_amsha
Most of those are Indian or Greek discoveries that Muslims just translated into Arabic. Al-Khwarizmi's treatise were called "On Computation with Hindu numerals" - kitab al hisab al Hindi.
For the others, they are nothing in comparison to the contributions to modern science Jews made.
Accurate comments:
https://twitter.com/hemantP61820277/status/1733784706821296295
DJ Bobby
@hemantP61820277
morden world is creation of white Christian Judeo-Christians -rp n white jews... everybody else is just kanging on things they did 1000 year ago...most of which can't be proven right or wrong...
Yup. At the end of the day, "Whites" (including Jews) have the last laugh, while other "non-White" ethnicities are relegated to internet kanging.
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https://twitter.com/Ragnaar888/status/1623611577298726912
Daemien
@Ragnaar888
Can't happen, Hindus have deep seated resentment & inferiority complex which then try to get rid of by putting Hindus of other states down. That's why you see poverty & bimaru jibes, geneticsjeets distributing Aryan certificates, TN Hs claiming to be the oldest everything &
https://twitter.com/Arya_Anviksha_/status/1623603894273318913
Āryā_Anvikṣā 🪷
@Arya_Anviksha_
Hindus must learn to drop the political lenses when there's an attack on Hindus of any caste, region, or ideology. Or else they will end up cursing each other.
Is India a lost case? I am becoming more defeatist on India by the day...
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Blackpill:
https://twitter.com/kaliyuga_surfer/status/1732635958875722134?t=UO8TmZZ3Do5LcQwWcY8ccQ&s=19
Nationalism, Communism or any other modern ideology will never work in India because Indians have no concept of universal brotherhood or sense of national belonging.
I personally don't have an issue with this as I myself am not really fond of Indians
https://twitter.com/MaitreyaBhakal/status/1732409074040590371?t=bCo4IcMDG6mdyVl6VUrbCA&s=19
The Indian is a born hater.
He is born to hate.
He spends his entire life hating other Indians, and he hates even with his dying breath.
He is born a hater and he dies a hater.
https://twitter.com/MaitreyaBhakal/status/1732409075798000077?t=nXDv5_ar1uCOCqHg_68zcg&s=19
When the white man landed on Indian shores 500 years ago, he realized that the Indian would sooner suck the white man's dick than even shake the hand of another Indian.
And the rest is history.
Replies to the original post:
https://twitter.com/AryavartaJai/status/1732659454812864812?t=F08ZrwbLCiLflzCfgHgSLQ&s=19
Honestly, the more I look at the state of affairs; I am starting to highly sympathize for the return of some-kind of Chakravarti-Kshetram - whereby the centre and periphery (Panchayats) are autonomous; but the former naturally supervises the latter through proxy governors/Rajas.
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"Is India a lost case?"
It could actually benefit us if more people currently in India believe this, as they would then be more likely to emigrate, which is what we want most of them to do (for destinations such as UK/Canada/Australia/etc.).
By the lower-morale Indians emigrating, the population remaining in India would also be the higher-morale ones, hence the average morale of India would be increased.
In short, emigration benefits both India (relief from overpopulation plus average morale improvement) and the destination countries (Great Replacement).
The Indian is a born hater.
He is born to hate.
He spends his entire life hating other Indians, and he hates even with his dying breath.
He is born a hater and he dies a hater.
This could be positive:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-hate/
Can we get him to hate Western civilization instead?
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"Can we get him to hate Western civilization instead?"
It would theoretically be possible if "hate" was the underlying emotion, but I don't even think it is. It is nothing but self-loathing, although you could argue that the two are the same.
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"self-loathing"
Can we get him to blame Western civilization for this version of himself that he loathes? As we previously covered here:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg5515/?topicseen#msg5515
“Racial self-hatred is seeing yourself the way the whites see you, which turns you into your own worst enemy.”
This is what we need to deal with first.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7FVh37aI0uM
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The effects of machines increases the amount of self-hate in non-"whites", so for example a non-"white" person who hates themselves before machines were invented would have a acceptable amount of self-hate, but that same person in a world with machines level of self-hate would increase to disproportionate and unhealthy levels. So what is needed is for people of all non-"white" races to struggle against the effects of machines and transmit the fruits of their struggle onto the people of their race, which will instantly decrease the average amount of self-hate and increase the average amount of self-confidence of non-"whites".
The high level of eurocentrism and self hate among non-"whites" is due to the fact that the majority of non-"whites" are unaware of the detrimental effects that machines have on them.
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With so many religions/languages/castes, it seems impossible to unite India. The original idea of the Indian state was conceived as a unification of the Indian peoples' struggle for independence from the British. Unfortunately, the independence movement itself was eventually hijacked by Freemasons like Nehru, Gandhi, and Rajaji, which led to democracy, which led to appeasement, which led to backlash. I do not know whether another attempt at unification under a secular umbrella will be successful, in which case secession of states is the best option, but this risks either a) India disintegrating into an "Africa"-like situation with various warring factions, or b) India becoming a Zionist colony with the U.S setting up a military base. In both cases, one of the world's largest nuclear arsenals will surely fall into Zionist hands (if it hasn't already).
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"With so many religions/languages/castes, it seems impossible to unite India."
As long as those who refuse to unite under whatever vision of India is offered are able to emigrate, I do not see why those who ultimately remain cannot unite.
"secession"
The formation of additional new states would be the worst idea, for the reasons you outlined. It would be much less risky if currently Indian territories which want to break away from India variously join Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, etc. as appropriate, and vice versa. Or just keep the borders where they are but make it easy for people to migrate both ways. And those who are comfortable neither in India nor in India's neighbours should emigrate to the UK/Canada/Australia/etc. (this number should be as large as possible due to global warming). Eventually everyone will end up where they are most comfortable living.
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https://twitter.com/butcher_nails/status/1737973799491145824?t=_QNOsdsLrYW5poQQlmiz2A&s=1
Muslims are right on many other things too.
Hinduism' tolerance of idolatry & not closing avatar question has brought us to Narendra Modi being declared 11th Avatar of Vishna, & jeets worshiping🦖🥚as kuldevta.
Islam' issue is with its anti-intellectual & anti-innovation nature
Idgaf about "anti innovation" (Hinduism is not exactly "pro innovation" either, or else the Renaissance would have happened in India). I definitely agree though that the anti intellectualism is an issue (i.e. fundamentalism).
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Believing in avatars is a good attitude to have, and common to many ancient cultures (as well as esoteric Hitlerism, and much of Counterculture fantasy fiction (reminder: January will be Sailor Moon month in: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/recommended-music-to-listen-to/ )). It is fundamentally regressive, as it implies that someone outstanding today is merely a resonance of someone outstanding from earlier, which places the source of superiority in the past. Hinduism deserves to be praised for maintaining this attitude.
This tweeter, who dislikes avatars and likes innovation, is definitely a progressive. Probably also an anthropocentrist, given the snide comment about worshipping non-humans.
My guesses confirmed:
https://twitter.com/butcher_nails/status/1583179448387776512
https://twitter.com/butcher_nails/status/1617012881010364416
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"given the snide comment about worshipping non-humans."
It was in reference to this:
https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1737447216963567640
NDTV
@ndtv
Rocks Worshipped As 'Kuldevtas' In Madhya Pradesh Are Dinosaur Eggs https://ndtv.com/india-news/rocks-worshipped-as-kuldevtas-in-madhya-pradesh-are-dinosaur-eggs-4709827
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/rocks-worshipped-as-kuldevtas-in-madhya-pradesh-are-dinosaur-eggs-4709827
Though I do agree that there is an anthropocentric attitude that ridicules the worship of animals. Many Muslims also do this, which is why the tweeter probably praised Islam. This is why I am not sure if the Islamization of India is a good road to go on. On one hand, India has the potential to be anti-Zionist, but on the other hand, it will surely result in the proliferation of ignoble behaviors and bloodlines.
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Rocks Worshipped As 'Kuldevtas' In Madhya Pradesh Are Dinosaur Eggs
There is no contradiction here.
"Many Muslims also do this"
These Muslims are non-Mohammedans. Meanwhile Mohammed himself:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/inspired-by-muhammad/msg13559/#msg13559
(https://maldivianapostates.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/tumblr_lkoeoeedpc1qjc9fqo1_1280.png)
This single action by Mohammed is more valuable than the sum of everything produced in the so-called "Enlightenment" that the False Left is so proud of (which was in fact so inferior that it never even questioned anthropocentrism, but if anything further reinforced it!).
"I am not sure if the Islamization of India is a good road to go on."
The whole point of having countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh was for Muslims in India to migrate there.
"India has the potential to be anti-Zionist"
It should have this potential even without Islam. Were not India and Palestine fellow former victims of the British Empire which was also behind the Balfour Declaration? Indian solidarity with Palestine should have been effortless. Besides, does India not want common ground with its neighbours (Pakistan and Bangladesh) which already do not recognize Israel? This is why Indian support of Israel is so ludicrous.
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"It should have this potential even without Islam. Were not India and Palestine fellow former victims of the British Empire which was also behind the Balfour Declaration?"
It has somehow been turned into an Islamist/False Left issue which portrays India as a colonial entity*/oppressor of Muslims, and not a victim of colonialism. But even if it wasn't, I don't know if Indians can be motivated to turn against Israel based on this. Most Indians were happy to accept cushy jobs in the colonial bureaucracy, happy to loyally serve the British "Indian" Army. Only a few brave men mounted any significant resistance. Perhaps this is due to the "Karma" worldview/sklavenmoral that says one must passively accept their oppression, or perhaps due to the AASI blood which causes one to be subservient to "Whites", or perhaps both. But either way, we must acknowledge that Indians today are descendants of those who accepted British rule, and hence one must acknowledge that they either a) suffer from psychological colonization, or b) are an inferior slave race. I sincerely hope it is a). BTW, parental tyranny also compounds this slave morality, with Indian parents forcing their children through the Western schooling system, thereby cultivating their submission to authority.
*For example, many False Leftists will say the concept of "India" itself is a colonial construct (similar to what we are saying with "Africa"). I of course disagree with this. While the Indian nation-state is a modern invention (as are most modern nation-states), India has a civilizational history from the IVC.
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What I was talking about in the previous post ("Babudom" = bureaucracy):
https://twitter.com/SabreCanine/status/1737515514744959193
Sabre Tooth
@SabreCanine
Can’t ever happen with ongoing Babudom, mass dysgenics & Indian matriarchal mammy-slave spirit .
Hope you guys know this .
Aurobindo pointing out way back in 1900 that cause of Indian decline has been extinction of the MANLY KSHATRIYA TYPE amongst Indian race since 500AD.
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"Most Indians were happy to accept cushy jobs in the colonial bureaucracy"
The same was true of colonies all over the world. Opportunism is not exclusive to Indians. But purely pragmatic opportunists are actually easy to handle, in the sense that they will just as readily accept an opportunity to become anti-colonialist if that is the side they perceive they can gain more from. The real problem are those who have become genuinely loyal to the colonizer.
So, how many of them accepted the cushy jobs in the colonial bureaucracy because the jobs were cushy, and how many because they actually liked the colonial bureaucracy? So long as it is mostly the former, there is hope.
Sabre Tooth
Be careful! This guy is another Nietzschean who seems to want Indians to become another Homo Hubris breed.
https://twitter.com/SabreCanine/status/1693715506073931893
https://twitter.com/SabreCanine/status/1697677436396376218
etc.
Continuing:
MANLY KSHATRIYA TYPE
Why would you fall for this nonsense? You yourself posted examples of idealized visual portrayals of famous Kshatriyas:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/face-shapes-and-preferences/msg22235/#msg22235
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/face-shapes-and-preferences/msg22237/#msg22237
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/face-shapes-and-preferences/msg22315/#msg22315
Do you really think these try to emphasize manliness? I would say the intention is to emphasize their relatively low sexual dimorphism (certainly lower than average real-life Indians), hence the visual similarity with:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/face-shapes-and-preferences/msg22652/#msg22652
You have a duty to take back from him ownership of the term "Kshatriya".
Note his non-Aryan blood memory:
https://twitter.com/SabreCanine/status/1692119057842257943
https://twitter.com/SabreCanine/status/1695592036064198722
etc.
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"The same was true of colonies all over the world."
I agree, but does this not indicate a slave morality among the people of those colonies as well?
"So, how many of them accepted the cushy jobs in the colonial bureaucracy because the jobs were cushy, and how many because they actually liked the colonial bureaucracy? So long as it is mostly the former, there is hope."
You make a good point. Most of those who accepted the jobs were Brahmins, who, upon the collapse of the king's patronage system, lost their source of livelihood. Of course, according to the Orthodox view, they should not have taken up the jobs, but the alternative was to die in poverty. This does not excuse their behavior (dying of poverty is still more ethical IMO than living in slavery), but it illustrates how it was merely a consequence of an already existing fatalistic mindset. The opportunists (probably of low genetic quality), of course, used it to gain access to more wealth and boost their TFR. However, this does not signify a pro Western attitude on their part, as they still retained some of their non-Western attitudes (e.g..non smoking, non drinking, vegetarianism). It was only some true believers who liked the access to the new Western lifestyle.
"But purely pragmatic opportunists are actually easy to handle, in the sense that they will just as readily accept an opportunity to become anti-colonialist if that is the side they perceive they can gain more from. The real problem are those who have become genuinely loyal to the colonizer."
Another example of pragmatic opportunism would be the sepoys of the British Indian Army. Many of them became captured POWs who joined Bose's INA to fight the British during WW2. This suggests that they were merely mercenaries, and not colonialists.
"Why would you fall for this nonsense?"
I should have clarified I didn't necessarily agree with him on his use of the term "manly", but I admit I let it slide because I somewhat believed it. For example, the downfall of Indian civilization due to Turkic/Anglo invaders gave me the impression that Indians were too pacifistic, that they should have focused on developing advanced weaponry and waging total war to exterminate the ignoble barbarians. They certainly seemed to have possessed the capability (many of the early mathematical discoveries were made in India, for example.), but chose not to do so, thus giving their enemies the upper hand.
However, now I realize that it is possible to be against pacifism without emphasizing manliness, as evidenced by the Kshatriyas in my own posts. But I still have some doubts whether masculinity should be eschewed altogether. For example, many of the Kshatriyas I posted were said to have fathered many children. Surely you would agree a virile, masculine, man is needed for this, and not a low T, impotent weakling? I myself am of the opinion that masculinity should be encouraged but only in a way that serves the purpose of accomplishing the Arihant's mission.
" I would say the intention is to emphasize their relatively low sexual dimorphism (certainly lower than average real-life Indians),"
Not necessarily. I would argue that the tropical climate produces a reduced Gentile phenotype, resulting in the male Gentile phenotype being approximately similar to the female Gentile phenotype in terms of robustness and overall appearance (not taking into consideration facial hair).
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"fathered many children. Surely you would agree a virile, masculine, man is needed for this, and not a low T, impotent weakling?"
No. Did you not see this post?
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg24370/#msg24370
The Chinese did not have trouble historically outnumbering the Danes in total despite lower sperm count per man!
"I myself am of the opinion that masculinity should be encouraged"
Do you mean racially or culturally? Does this mean you do not value neoteny? (And do you mean for men only? If so, are you saying you would be willing to endure the increase in sexual dimorphism?)
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"Did you not see this post?"
I remember seeing it earlier, but I think I didn't read it then.
"The Chinese did not have trouble historically outnumbering the Danes in total despite lower sperm count per man!"
I see.
"Do you mean racially or culturally?"
Definitely not racially. I do not want anything remotely resembling the Danish subhumans. Culturally, I feel that masculinity can provide some extra "lightning" needed for battle. Additionally, even if masculinity is not needed for the purpose of increasing sperm count, it is needed for a good libido and sexual arousal, which is needed for ejaculation and insemination.
"Does this mean you do not value neoteny? (And do you mean for men only? If so, are you saying you would be willing to endure the increase in sexual dimorphism?)"
Certainly value neoteny, which is why I am against promoting it racially.
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"Culturally, I feel that masculinity can provide some extra "lightning" needed for battle."
I am not sure about this. From my observations, the more masculine tend not to hold grudges for long, and even despise those who do. As such, they are less likely to able to tap into:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-hate/
Masculinity is fundamentally a creative force. (Why do you think Yahweh is male?) Its lightning is mainly directed against those (often innocent victims) either to remove those who are in the way or to exploit those who can be used as ingredients.
"it is needed for a good libido and sexual arousal, which is needed for ejaculation and insemination."
A more masculine man who can inseminate many women per day gains minimal advantage over a less masculine man who can only inseminate one woman in many days when both have the same the total number of women. If each man has 2 women and the more masculine man gets them both pregnant the same day, whereas the less masculine man needs 10 days to get them both pregnant, a year later the two men still have roughly the same number of offspring, because the limiting factor is the gestation time of the women, which the more masculine man has to wait out before he can get the same woman pregnant again.
On the other hand, the more masculine man requires a far larger supply of nutrients than the less masculine man. Therefore the nutrients saved by men being less masculine can be used to feed extra women instead. Thus in reality, the masculine man might be able to get 2 women pregnant in 1 day, but the less masculine man might be able to get 3 women pregnant in 20 days. A year later, the less masculine man has more offspring.
(The only way for the more masculine men to win this is to raid the less masculine men's country to steal both their women and their food/money. Hence Turanian raiders.)
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https://twitter.com/dharma__vijay/status/1740081815355081177?t=QgHfHgYtbmzW_1MqI2PRMw&s=19
This is all a new phenomenon. India has had migrations from one region to another since time immemorial. There was no problem until we became a Secular Democratic Republic and had linguistic states.
Any Indian should be free to work and settle elsewhere and they should respect the local culture/language while doing so. It’s a grand bargain in a multi ethnic country like India. Issue happens when migrants don’t respect the latter or locals are violent about the former.
Dividing states based on languages is a surefire way to ensure conflict.
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"From my observations, the more masculine tend not to hold grudges for long, and even despise those who do. As such, they are less likely to able to tap into:"
I agree, but we should note that this is not necessarily an exclusively masculine attitude (not that you are implying it is). I have heard mothers also tell this to children so that they can "get ahead" in life. I would attribute this more broadly to adult supremacism, in which case masculinity is merely a symptom of this as it is an adulterated attitude.
But sometimes I feel that holding a grudge puts me in a position of weakness, leaving me unable to confront the enemy. This is where I thought masculinity could help.
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"I have heard mothers also tell this to children so that they can "get ahead" in life."
What you are referring to is about keeping a connection to those from whom one might have to ask a favour in the future. This is straightforward pragmatism. What I was talking about earlier is a genuine feeling. This is why masculine men communicate with each other by pranking each other.
"holding a grudge puts me in a position of weakness, leaving me unable to confront the enemy"
I do not understand what you mean. I thought it would be the opposite, as in:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-hate/msg9856/#msg9856
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-hate/msg15115/#msg15115
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It should have this potential even without Islam. Were not India and Palestine fellow former victims of the British Empire which was also behind the Balfour Declaration? Indian solidarity with Palestine should have been effortless. Besides, does India not want common ground with its neighbours (Pakistan and Bangladesh) which already do not recognize Israel? This is why Indian support of Israel is so ludicrous.
The hardline Indian view is that both of those are illegitimate countries, and the eventual goal for the hardliners is to conquer those territories:
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So naturally, you could see why they don't really care about achieving common ground.
And even if we ignore this hardliner view, I don't think relations with Pakistan would improve overnight. There is the issue of the country's treatment of Hindus (which PM Modi tried to solve by providing Pak Hindus Indian citizenship, but was subsequently forced to backtrack on due to pressure from the False Left Zionist agents and useful idiots), their support for insurgents in Kashmir, their regular threats to India, etc. However, I must say their relations with Bangladesh are somewhat better, as the country is grateful for India's help in the liberation war, but it is gradually souring due to the country's treatment of Hindus and illegal cattle smuggling...
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https://twitter.com/IgnorantBoh/status/1736886616247910630
Idk Idk
@IgnorantBoh
"Support for Autocracy"
India - 55%
Highest in the survey
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Sensei Kraken Zero
@YearOfTheKraken
If people think Indians by and large give a **** about democracy - They are gravely mistaken
https://twitter.com/YearOfTheKraken/status/1736793664066925003
This
But unironically
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https://twitter.com/talk2anuradha/status/1683092736495456256
Anuradha Tiwari
@talk2anuradha
Gate Score- 750
Result- Rejected
Gate Score- 386
Result- Selected
And we are talking about Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), responsible for developing defence technologies.
Why on Earth there is reservation in DRDO?
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Quotas will weaken India's defence capabilities...
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https://twitter.com/IgnorantBoh/status/1736886616247910630
Idk Idk
@IgnorantBoh
"Support for Autocracy"
India - 55%
Highest in the survey
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Sensei Kraken Zero
@YearOfTheKraken
If people think Indians by and large give a **** about democracy - They are gravely mistaken
https://twitter.com/YearOfTheKraken/status/1736793664066925003
This
But unironically
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LOL:
https://twitter.com/migokhagan/status/1624009182579167232
Mr Melancholy
@chakravartiin
I really feel bad for subcon Ms their ancestors converted out of Hinduism but they were never embraced by larger ummah especially Turks & Arabs neither they were able to carve out a unique identity like them now they go around kanging on other people's legacy,it's really sad.
Aryan Khan Minhas آرین 🇵🇸
@migokhagan
The land of Ayodhya belongs to Rajputs doesn’t matter whether it’s Muslim Rajputs or Hindu Rajput. Myself a Suryavanshi Minhas Muslim Rajput.. If Rajputs are not given the authority of that temple & Babri 🕌 isn’t rebuild then that temple will be destroyed & blown away to ashes…
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https://twitter.com/Girishvhp/status/1185246699930832896 (video at link)
Girish Bharadwaj
@Girishvhp
And this is how,
They Smuggle Cows from India to Bangladesh!
Who will Understand the pain of these animals now,
@peta
are you listening?
Via: WA
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Indian Islamists are anti-national:
Laibah Firdaus. لائبہ فردوس
@FirdausLaibah
They made fun of and many got arrested for allegedly spitting on food made by muslims in India.
Now whole world is making fun of their unhygienic food culture.
Replies:
https://twitter.com/raviryx/status/1741759500473028977
RAVI
@raviryx
Their food? Where are you from again ?
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https://twitter.com/hindookissinger/status/1747622869301862454 (video at link):
Benares City Bureaucrat
@hindookissinger
"They are superb flatterers, Mr. President. They are masters at flattery. They are masters at subtle flattery. That’s how they survived 600 years. They suck up — their great skill is to suck up to people in key positions."
—H. Kissinger
George
@BehizyTweets
BREAKING: Trump crowd chants "VP VP VP" after Vivek gets done speaking. Trump says "he's going to be working with us for a long time"
I should say it is not necessarily a bad thing. Vivek could merely be counting on the fact that Trump will be in jail before the elections take place and hence is merely waiting to take his spot. He knows Trump and his supporters are gullible retards.
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What else did you expect?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amartya_Sen#Personal_life_and_beliefs
In 1978 Sen married Eva Colorni, an Italian economist, daughter of Eugenio Colorni and Ursula Hirschmann and niece of Albert O. Hirschman. The couple had two children
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_Hirschmann
Hirschmann was born into a middle-class Jewish family to Carl Hirschmann and Hedwig Marcuse in Berlin.
Back to first link:
Eva died of cancer in 1985.[39] In 1991, Sen married Emma Georgina Rothschild
I hardly need to introduce this last name:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Rothschild
Rothschild was born in London, England, the daughter of Victor Rothschild (1910–1990) and his second wife, Teresa Georgina Rothschild (née Mayor; 1915–1996). On her father's side, she descends from the Rothschild family.
See also:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg7593/?topicseen#msg7593
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https://twitter.com/theskindoctor13/status/1628779417098137602?t=910pWAt3WKHQYo7_8y6alg&s=19
Birth place of Guru Nanak ji is in Pak. The capital of erstwhile Sikh Empire is in Pak, so is the land. Pak torments Sikhs, have wiped out almost all of them.
Today Pak is in shambles. Army is busy fighting Taliban. High time Khalistanis attack them and reclaim their heritage.
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https://twitter.com/nasenaxte/status/1752009600822645210 (video at link)
nâšenâxte - An AASI Malcolm X
@nasenaxte
We are Hondu Gora saar not K2 AAs saar
We pay Jizya to you saar
We are obedient dhimmi saar
Deport K2 AAs saar
"K2a" = "katua" = slur for Muslims
Anyway, as demographic blueshift proceeds, we can expect different "non-White" groups to suck up to "Whites" more to prove that they are less "anti-White" than other "non-White" groups.
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https://x.com/Times4India/status/1749460427216671036?s=20
Pagan-Wing
@Times4India
E-grill with a Philistine flag celebrating Ram Mandir and praying for Gaza. Kweeen.
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࣪🇵🇸
@bhattsgf
aren’t we so lucky to witness this today? i’m in tears. it finally happened. we won. jai shree ram. ayodhyapati ram chandra ki jai ❤️
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https://twitter.com/peshwaspeaks/status/1638445277035233281
Pratham Dhobisatva 🟠
@peshwaspeaks
Muh dhando dharmo contitution (2)
World's largyast contitution saar where criminals get out jails using loopholes in laws saar
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https://twitter.com/hindookissinger/status/1746407535542935942
Benares City Bureaucrat
@hindookissinger
The Constitution of China is just 143 Articles and fits in one Wikisource page??
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China
The Indian constitution is an entire Mahabharata type document, wordcelling to the extreme.
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https://twitter.com/chakravartiin/status/1681950995683897345
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Alpha Defense™
@alpha_defense
#BREAKING
A Naval Dockyard employee (electrician) was charged by the NIA for allegedly providing a suspected Pakistani intelligence agent posing as Aditi Chouhan with confidential information on Indian Navy warships and submarines. He then received payments from crypto channels as well.
Replies:
https://twitter.com/MuditKnight907/status/1681961005897912321
Incognito Knight🇮🇳
@MuditKnight907
Dont blame them, Pajeets are weak, despo, secually frustrated mofos forcefully married by family to an ugly looking partners, by giving age old "churan" of dont go for looks or financially capable or personality or compatibility, we need "Gharelu maid" for you as wife
https://twitter.com/MuditKnight907/status/1681961776529952768
Incognito Knight🇮🇳
@MuditKnight907
Frustrated with both life and spouse, these pajeets only have "bobs and vagene" to vent out there accumulated degenerate behaviour compounded by pajeet societal pressure and lifestyoe. Pajeet Babus should never be given such important posts they can never rise above mediocrity
In effect, we have witnessed the "incelification" of the arranged marriage system, where the motive seems to be getting a bride for every single man. Of course, there are many factors to this, such as the outlawing of polygamy, the high TFR combined with skewed gender ratio, etc.
Also, I never understood why "don't go for looks" was seen as a virtue....
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""incelification" of the arranged marriage system, where the motive seems to be getting a bride for every single man."
I would just call it Westernization:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonialism-and-sexism/msg17109/#msg17109
the notion that every man (no matter how awful a person he is) is entitled to keep a woman. (Not coincidentally, it was Western men who came up with the notion of an "incel" based on the same sense of entitlement being unmet.) This attitude is thoroughly alien to non-Western civilizations, whose men have no such equivalent patriarchist rapport with other men in evenly distributing women.
"Also, I never understood why "don't go for looks" was seen as a virtue...."
Etymologically, a "virtue" is a trait consequential to virility. Therefore it is accurate to claim that not going for looks is a virtue*, since the optimal evolutionary strategy for virile men (who produce comically large amounts of sperm) is to have sex with as many women as possible (thus necessarily including aesthetically sub-ideal women who are the vast majority) whereas it is unvirile men for whom the optimal evolutionary strategy is to reserve their (very limited) sperm for only the most aesthetically ideal women (who are a tiny minority).
(* This is why we never use the term "virtue" with a positive connotation.)
Going for looks is indeed not virtuous, it is idealistic. (Of course those who go for looks can still screw up by pursuing the wrong ideal, but that is a separate discussion. Speaking of which, I feel that this topic:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/facial-aryanism/
is currently underused. Should we open up more spots in order to get more activity there?)
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The reason why some Hindu nationalists have become "pro-Israel" is, like I mentioned before, anti-Zionism has been turned into an Islamist issue. But this isn't all: almost all the Islamic/OIC countries are invariably anti-India, criticizing its "violations" in Kashmir as well as supposed "anti-Muslim" policies. This has led to India feeling that it is "weak" and hence does not need to "appease" Muslim countries by supporting Palestine. Thus supporting Israel is seen as a rejection of "Gandhian" pacifism and not allowing "foreigners" to dictate their matters. In contrast, China, which is more powerful than India, does not illicit the same criticism from Muslim countries, although it is demolishing mosques and forcing Muslims to eat pork. Additionally, the fake "anti-colonialist" False Left in India, which supports Palestine but also calls India a "colonial entity" that is "occupying Kashmir", leads to some Hindu nationalists believing that Palestine is not an anti-colonialist issue. Again, in contrast, any criticism of alleged Uyghur genocide is rightly seen as a neoconservative/fringe Islamist cause, probably due to China's power.
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"Going for looks is indeed not virtuous, it is idealistic. (Of course those who go for looks can still screw up by pursuing the wrong ideal, but that is a separate discussion. Speaking of which, I feel that this topic:"
Somehow, preference for good looks has been associated with "shallowness"...
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When we visualize an ideal person, we spontaneously imagine them to be beautiful. There is nothing wrong with this: we simply want what is inside them to be reflected on the outside, as it should be in an ideal world of transparent truth. What would be shallow is letting someone's good looks cause us to lower our standards regarding their personality, as this would mean that we have ceased to seek ideal looks to match ideal personality and instead have begun to let good looks compensate for bad personality. But we can be vigilant against this without lowering our standards regarding their looks either. On the contrary, it is by further raising our standards for looks that we best safeguard against this, since this makes it harder for them to awe us with their looks in the first place.
Another angle to consider is that whereas personality can be feigned, looks (until recently with the advent of cosmetic surgery) could not be. And even when sincere, personality could well have been shaped by that person's unique life experiences, whereas looks are more likely to reflect heritable traits. Thus selecting for looks first could be a more efficient way to preliminarily filter out most carriers of heritable traits that we don't want.
One way in which I do not care about good looks is if someone originally beautiful (and with good personality) became disfigured as a result of an accident (fire/acid/etc.). I would still feel the same about them as I felt prior to their disfigurement.
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Ichigo a panchal 👁⃤
@banana_sethh
Be that 2008 indian, who didn't give a ****.
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https://twitter.com/hindookissinger/status/1760517530341536176?t=IyZb_plZe6qcqWiy5xFK7g&s=19
The best way to understand the mind of the Indian leftist is that unlike their Western counterparts, ILs are pro feudal, pro kulak, this is because the leftists' enemy in India is "urban" and modern groups like Brahmins, Jains, Parsis, Baniyas, etc
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Subhumans seething:
https://twitter.com/Advaidism/status/1577196960893009922?t=tKz1XvlRGGH0zS0NEaHl5w&s=19
The narrative that "Meat-Eaters are barbaric, irrational and savages" has been a Brahmanical tool to subjucate the indigenous people of India since the last 2000 years.
We are living in the 21st century now. Let the "omnivourous" humans decide the type of food they want to eat.
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The narrative that "Meat-Eaters are barbaric, irrational and savages" has been a Brahmanical tool
So the victims of the meat-eaters do not consider the meat-eaters barbaric?
Same tweeter:
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Let's start seeing things from the sheep/fish/chicken lenses.
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https://twitter.com/sangriaenjoyer/status/1632051693595815937?t=XxkuN29CQ8P8QPcW8sFKGg&s=1
What would be trad's opinion on this matter?
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Replies:
https://twitter.com/DesiOG1/status/1632090910153383937?t=bfjvj7R3WCIb2DYz9ppXdg&s=19
America/ west is the reason vroo. Bollywood is ruining the Culture.
There is no such thing as Repressed emotion(or Shadow Self). I know more than Carl Jung Vrooo🤣😂🤣
This narrative of the alleged "Western" influence in Indian metropolitan cities, often set in contrast to the "tradishunal" rural areas needs to stop tbh. If anything, pseudo moralistic traditionalism (Victorianism) should be called Western.
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https://twitter.com/vakyas001/status/1764710803603652732?t=N3nl96bySwb8flnQ0St_zQ&s=19
how was an untouchable like you allowed into a holy space like Arunachaleswarar Temple?
India is definitely bad in that regard - allowing beef-eating, unhygienic mlecchas like you inside our temples (let alone country).
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https://twitter.com/AfroFantom/status/1684182060393725952?t=KRIM1fTDa7oalORr2DmSfw&s=19
Its the brahminical idea that meat eaters are beneath the superior veg eaters. We see this in the way pure veg restaurants often pride themselves on having only brahmin cooks and so on. No one is forcing brahmins to eat meat just treat meat eaters with respect.
Leaving the caste angle aside, isn't it a good thing that you are economically supporting vegetarian cooks over meat eating cooks? This is another reason why I suppose I avoid restaurants that serve meat. Although the cooks themselves may not be vegetarian, I am economically supporting a business that produces vegetarian food. In contrast, I view meat serving restaurants in the same light as slaughterhouses/butcheries. A little extreme, perhaps, but it is what it is.
Also, regarding "brahminical idea that meat eaters are beneath the superior veg eaters", I would just post the "Yes Chad" meme. Yes, we do view meat eaters as inferior. Cope and seethe subhuman.
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"This is another reason why I suppose I avoid restaurants that serve meat."
Vegans eating at meat-serving restaurants can cause them to add vegan items to their menu, thereby increasing the vegan presence on the menu, which I consider to be a success, especially in cases when the vegan items displace the non-vegan items. For example, one restaurant offers two soup-of-the-day options both of which were formerly non-vegan, but now a vegan soup holds one of the two spots, leaving only one non-vegan soup. Now even some non-vegans choose the vegan soup.
In general, we should want meat-serving restaurants to feel as though they need to compete with vegan restaurants by offering (more) vegan items. If you want to achieve this effect without eating at the meat-serving restaurant yourself, one thing you can still do is ask a meat-serving restaurant why they don't have [insert vegan option here] and then leave.
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https://twitter.com/hindookissinger/status/1769314499595747622?t=MyXIdks54XDXxf1nItM1iQ&s=19
Indian males are the least violent creatures on Earth after Asian males.
At PCGDP of $2845, Indian homicide rates are comparable to Europe & half of US.
What explains India's image is that women hate docile men. A woman is more likely to go out with a drug dealer than IT staff.
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https://twitter.com/Profdilipmandal/status/1770298324945342747?t=abCWXpvO5Y3frUR_Npwkuw&s=19
Finally, #Zomato has abandoned the idea of a green fleet for purely vegetarian food. All food will now be delivered by a crew in red uniforms. In a predominantly meat-eating nation like India, the whims and fancies of a minority of pure vegetarians cannot be imposed on everyone. Thank you, Deepinder Goyal. We ❤️ Zomato.
Replies:
https://twitter.com/vakyas001/status/1770306815483376019?t=JRUV1D_rfgIlI_pgYeeI6Q&s=19
India consumes the lowest amount of meat per capita and has the highest number of civilized people (vegetarians) in the world.
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https://twitter.com/saffrontrail/status/1770274388702646383?t=7hGi9iRefN79m7yEz-QUTA&s=19
Came across a post in which a guy is proudly claiming to have switched veg and non veg stickers on his office microwave.
Is the low-IQ guy even aware that people who have life threatening allergies to eggs or shell fish intentionally stick to vegetarian options in all public places due to possibility of contamination, which is why labelling is so important.
Someone spiteful like this could cost a life.
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https://twitter.com/sagorika_s/status/1770388019016810549?t=pJipv-TbDoRj1dr3XsGViA&s=19
“Caste” has no association with vegetarianism. Vaishnavs come from many jaatis and are often vegetarians. Sikhs with no access to jhatka have turned vegetarian, and Jains are not Brahmins.
This is ill-disguised Hinduphobia parading as social justice through outright lies.
https://twitter.com/hoopoe_is_here/status/1770358041566912611?t=dvvZsqGkMJdSLjAEFX-kYw&s=19
upper-caste vegetarians who dont want to share house with non-vegetarians and not rent to them are asking how vegetarianism is related to caste! It is related to caste because you have discriminated & excluded on the basis of food preference instead of respecting it.
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https://twitter.com/BromActivist/status/1701137676567765493?t=wTcx5jJOJbCm4u50wVqoZA&s=19
What is this Phenotype? And how are these mid-looking men superstars in the South?
Discuss.
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Replies:
https://twitter.com/samanya_kumar/status/1701461906467516480?t=xZETUWFdi-LhR4wCLGn9FA&s=19
The really good looking south Indians don't bother entering this filthy industry or never get a chance. The families that rule seem to have these phenotypes.
https://twitter.com/dharma__vijay/status/1701302050670440675?t=OgvQR6QxLlMcIv7tmekFig&s=19
They gratify similar hordes of mid-looking men who project themselves onto these men's cinematic personalities where they stalk fair skinned "aryan" women and get them as a trophy wife at the end.
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No matter how much richer/developed South India is compared to the North, "Savuthies" will always be seen as inferior to "Naarthies" because of perceived inferiority of the former's looks. Promoting mid phenotypes is not really helping much in this regard.
Are North Indians really just better looking? Perhaps (at least phenotypally) they seem more Aryan.
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You be the judge.
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I can't really make of anything from the picture honestly. The average phenotypes seem more or less the same. Are you trying to make a point or are you asking for my opinion?
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I myself agree with the point made here:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/indian-attitudes/msg25624/#msg25624
If filmmakers could make better casting choices, perhaps people would have a less negative image.
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https://twitter.com/hindookissinger/status/1771100477779788192?t=ipF4PfHIBUNCsyedsRV6WQ&s=19
I don't need to twist anything tho.
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https://twitter.com/ilrgbitiion/status/1770302223479665041?t=513ROhgOcr4bEFpj_156Gw&s=19
Dhandho surrendered like a **** under the pressure of caste baiters after letting those caste baiters unleash subhumanistic hatred for 24 hours against Vegitarians and their assumed caste identity.
Goes on to show you who actually controls the state of affairs. Absolute ghouls.
Update on our pure veg fleet-
While we are going to continue to have a fleet for vegetarians, we have decided to remove the on-ground segregation of this fleet on the ground using the colour green. All our riders — both our regular fleet, and our fleet for vegetarians, will wear the colour red.
This means that the fleet meant for vegetarian orders will not be identifiable on the ground (but will show on the app that your veg orders will be served by the veg only fleet).
This will ensure that our red uniform delivery partners are not incorrectly associated with non-veg food, and blocked by any RWAs or societies during any special days… our riders’ physical safety is of paramount importance to us.
We now realise that even some of our customers could get into trouble with their landlords, and that would not be a nice thing if that happened because of us.
Thanks everyone for talking about this last night. You made us understand the unintended consequences of this rollout. All the love, and all the brickbats were all so useful - and helped us get to this optimal point.
We are always listening, without unnecessary ego, or pride. We look forward to continue serving you.
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I myself agree with the point made here:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/indian-attitudes/msg25624/#msg25624
If filmmakers could make better casting choices, perhaps people would have a less negative image.
This is merely a reflection of the plebianisation of "Savuthie" culture. For example, previously, meat was taboo and most people were flexitarian, even though South India was majority non-vegetarian. Now, Southoids complain about how "Aryan Naarthies" are "imposing Brahmanical values" by promoting vegetarianism and brag about eating meat. Another example is the promotion of inceldom (coupled with Eurocentrism) through movies: mediocre looking men pursue above average looking women, with the women often turning them away, but eventually settling for the man, for which she is praised for "not being shallow".
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I have criticized South India, but it should be noted that South India has many vegan dishes. Here is an example of how some inferior North Indians ruin these dishes ("vadakk" = Tamil word for Northerner):
https://twitter.com/bruhthosh/status/1486601299667734531?t=zKtl6_zgjMCqONHZtVK_fA&s=19
Vadakks stop grating cheese on everythingchallenge:
Typical Vadak
Adds Some **** and calls this South Indian Dish!
Coronary artery disease on a plate!
@Mystic_Tamil (1/2)
In reality, this is how dosas are actually made:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosa_(food)
A dosa is a thin, savoury crepe in South Indian cuisine made from a fermented batter of ground white gram and rice.
It should also be noted that it is the advent of Western mechanized dairy "farming" technology that allows this nonsense. Previously, milk production was minimal, which meant it's usage in cooking was also minimal. Now, industrial production of milk means subhumans can use it to Turanize even otherwise vegan dishes.
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https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20240104-are-jains-the-original-vegans
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https://twitter.com/chakravartiin/status/1773946579009126681?t=kUboK2mjuW2uPWx0sap4-w&s=19
Contrary to popular belief this is not a religious characteristic this is the core DNA of the majority population in India every low level citizen lionises their relevant community's strongman and lives vicariously through them.
Uttar Pradesh: People in large numbers take part in the funeral procession of gangster-turned-politician Mukhtar Ansari in Mohammadabad, Ghazipur
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https://twitter.com/CastePatroller/status/1773959476942631055?t=3kdNJmUc_bR14IvMyBhwjQ&s=19
We cannot solely blame the West for the failures within our society.
Our weakness stemmed from over acceptance of reforms and degeneracy, as it was only we who failed to follow our own Dharma, Gurus and Shashtras.
गर्भपात/भ्रूणहत्या: महापाप: Abortion/foeticide: a great sin 🧵
Western countries promoted gender-selective abortion in India with the goal of reducing India's population. Basically, the aim was to reduce the non-white population around the world.
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https://twitter.com/Narsimha_dev/status/1774389356264051022?t=gY14H-d97wnhohx35sASGw&s=19
It doesn’t sound good when we quote certain regions or castes over such wigger posts, especially when a dude is doing it, “look at our women they are pretty saaar”. The only response they deserve is abuse. I would rather prefer these perverted aholes thinking us as ugly.
I agree. Why should we want "Whites" to think of us as beautiful? Our motivation should be to get Indians to start thinking of themselves (or to be more specific, the Aryan leaning ones among them) as beautiful, and also thinking of "Whites" as ugly.
It is much more liberating when we stop thinking what "Whites" care about us, but I also realize that "White" (including Jewish) domination/power makes this hard due to constant negative stereotyping in media as well as in other venues (corporate world, academia, etc). But I do have hope in that demographic blueshift, coupled with the power of the Indian diaspora (who are the richest minority in the US) will flip this power balance.