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Title: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 24, 2020, 12:35:41 am
OLD CONTENT

psyarxiv.com/7vdmb/

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men’s preferences for female facial sex-typicality show a much more systematic 94
pattern. Although there is some research showing environment-related variation in facial femininity 95
preferences (38), more feminine female faces are perceived as more attractive unanimously across 96
cultures (12, 39–41). This may be because it could reveal reproductive potential (i.e. fecundity), as 97
women with more feminine faces may have higher levels of estrogen (42).
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weaker preference for feminine-looking women has been found to be 401
positively correlated with level of national health (38).
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An interesting finding is that all European countries revealed 420
larger differences between male and female average faces than in all the other populations.

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What are your opinions on this about Japan?

japantoday.com/category/features/kuchikomi/japanese-women%27s-breast-size-boasts-40-years-of-continued-growth

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TOKYO

Well, there's no denying it any more: the size of Japanese mammaries have become larger. We know this thanks to a survey by lingerie manufacturer Triumph International Japan, which recently made public the results of its research.

According to Nikkan Gendai (Aug 7), the subjects of the survey were Japanese females between the ages of 20 through 60 years. And when the data was confirmed, Triumph found that while only 4.5% of its customers had required a D-cup size bra or larger back in 1980, that percentage had expanded to 17.6% by 1990. By 2018, the percentage had swelled impressively to 53.1%. Or in other words, a remarkable twelve-fold increase over 40 years.

Interestingly, the 17.5-centimetre average measurement from the underside of the breast to the top had not shown any appreciable change during those four decades. Which means the size of the breasts themselves had definitely become larger.

Naturally, Nikkan Gendai's reporter wants to know why.

"There are two reasons for this," explained Shuko Sakata, manager of brand marketing at Triumph. "The first is changes in the diet, such as increased meat consumption and westernization in general. The other is because we manufacturers have become better at teaching customers the correct way to select a brassiere. When putting on their bras, women tend to lean forward and by so doing gravity collects fleshy parts on the sides of their torso to fill up the cup. That alone can increase cup size by as much as two sizes."

Mutsuko Taniguchi, a veteran stylist with some 40 years in the trade, is in agreement.

"These days when women put on their bra, they press in their flesh from four directions -- from the sides below their arms, up from their stomach area and then downwards from their collarbones. Doing this produces more cleavage and posture benefits from an overall improvement," she said.

Japan has a culture of exposure, says Taniguchi, so women here want to emphasize their cleavage, whereas these days western females tend to dress in a way that enables their left and right breasts independent movement.

Arata Samon, a doctor and author, estimates that 70 to 80% of women's breast sizes are determined by heredity.

"But for the remaining 20% or so, nutrition has a certain effect," he says. "About 90% of a breast is composed of fat cells. The levels of body fat are determined at three life stages: while still an embryo, while nursing up to around age 3, and then at puberty. If one's mother ingests a lot of beef or pork during pregnancy, the number of fat cells in the fetus will increase. Then what they consume as children and adolescents, such as meat, dairy products, fried chicken, convenience store sandwiches and so on, will enhance the size of the breasts. If you look back at dietary changes over the past 40 years, the greater ingestion of fats has definitely had an impact on women's breast size."

And no doubt we can look forward to continued growth in the future, the writer says.

© Japan Today

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I agree with the article that both heredity and Westernized diet are likely to be contributing factors to this phenomenon, which aesthetically should be considered a negative development, as it is an increase in sexual dimorphism. However, I am more concerned with what is considered ideal than what is going on with averages. So long as low sexual dimorphism remains the ideal, it will be returned to over time, even if current average sexual dimorphism is high. The real problem is if high sexual dimorphism has become the ideal, which I fear may be the case.

The bra itself is a colonial-era Western invention intended to accentuate sexual dimorphism:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_bras#The_emergence_of_the_bra_in_the_19th_century

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www.psypost.org/2020/03/womens-sexual-fluidity-is-reflected-in-preferences-for-male-facial-masculinity-study-finds-56093

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Batres and her colleagues found that women with higher levels of attraction to other women were more likely to view less masculine-looking male faces as more attractive.

This agrees with my anecdotal observations. I also suspect that the converse is true as well. I have a somewhat primitive male cousin who, whenever asked about which of several male celebrities etc. he considers best-looking, literally says that this is not a valid question. The notion that he could consider any male to be good looking is alien to him, in other words his idea of "beauty" is 100% equated to sexual arousal. And guess what? The type of women he prefers is ultra-feminine.

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"So God created human beings in his own image. In the image of God he created them; male and female he created them" - Tanakh

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Whereas we are all about:

"When you make the male and the female one, so that the male will not be male nor the female female ... then will you enter the Kingdom.” - Jesus

But until then, this **** will continue:

www.pnas.org/content/110/17/6925

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Here we show, based upon female assessment of digitally projected life-size, computer-generated images, that **** size interacts with body shape and height to determine male sexual attractiveness. Positive linear selection was detected for **** size, but the marginal increase in attractiveness eventually declined with greater **** size (i.e., quadratic selection). **** size had a stronger effect on attractiveness in taller men than in shorter men. There was a similar increase in the positive effect of **** size on attractiveness with a more masculine body shape (i.e., greater shoulder-to-hip ratio). Surprisingly, larger **** size and greater height had almost equivalent positive effects on male attractiveness. Our results support the hypothesis that female mate choice could have driven the evolution of larger penises in humans.

(Note the website acronym.)

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Is Yamato Nadeshiko (Japanese ideal women) considered to be feminine in your book?

www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2013/09/15/language/nadeshiko-adorable-till-they-die/#.Xpb8H_ktWNw

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The Yamato nadeshiko is renowned for her bihada (美肌, beautiful skin), bihatsu (美髪, beautiful hair) and yanagigoshi (柳腰, willowy hips), not to mention a patented okuyukashisa (奥ゆかしさ, a deep and abiding modesty) that both defines her personality and adorns her being. She’s also about practicality. According to my own observations, 75 percent of the typical Yamato nadeshiko is made up of an unshakeable devotion to kaji (家事, household chores) — whether she’s married or not.

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"beautiful skin"
"beautiful hair"

If skin is beautiful by being neotenous, then it is not feminine. But if skin is beautiful by being estrogen-enhanced, then it is feminine.

"willowy hips"

Willowy usually means slender, which would not be feminine, since estrogen widens hips.

"deep and abiding modesty"

If modest in the same way that men are expected to be modest, then it is not feminine. If modest in a way that men are not expected to be modest, then it is feminine.

"household chores"

If also expected of men, then it is not feminine. If not expected of men, then it is feminine.

Our general principle is that any trait considered positive for females should be considered just as positive for males, and vice versa, or else it is not a trait worth having in the first place.

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"The sad fact is people cannot choose their bodies."

But we can choose which bodies reproduce. This is one of the most important things we are promoting.

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And then there is this **** (I told you so):

psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fmen0000119

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Past research has highlighted links between meat consumption and masculine gender role norms such that meat consumers are generally attributed more masculine traits than their vegetable-consuming counterparts. However, the direct link between gender roles and men’s food choices has been somewhat neglected in the literature. Three studies conducted in Italy investigated this link between meat and masculinity. Studies 1 and 2 analyzed female mating preference for vegetarian and omnivorous partners, confirming that women preferred omnivorous men (Study 1 and 2), rated them as more attractive (Study 1 and 2), and felt more positive about them (Study 1) than vegetarians. Moreover Study 2 showed that the attribution of masculinity mediated this relationship, such that vegetarian men were considered less attractive because they were perceived as less masculine. Study 3 tested the relationship between the endorsement of food-related gender norms and food choices in a sample of Italian men. The results showed that men who perceived vegetarianism as feminine preferred meat-based dishes for themselves and expected their female partners to choose vegetarian dishes. Together, these findings show that gender role norms prescribing that men eat meat are actively maintained by both women and men and do in fact guide men’s food choices.

This is consistent with my personal experiences of hearing even some vegan women prefer men to not be vegan.

Yes, vegan men are less masculine. That is a sign of racial superiority. The solution is not for vegan men to try to become more masculine. The correct solution is to prohibit reproduction by women who find less masculine men less attractive (which is a sign of racial inferiority).

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@90sRetroFan

What's your opinion on Patrik Baboumian, vegan strongman?

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Women who find him more attractive than me should not be allowed to reproduce either.

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"But what if that person is bad, even though they are androgynous? Shouldn't reproduction based on the reproducers' merit?"

If by merit you mean behaviour, then the problem is that a bad person with a strong desire to reproduce and who is aware that selection is based on good behaviour will be willing to feign good behaviour solely for the sake of being selected for reproduction. Thus we will not achieve the objective of Aryanization (ie. eliminating heritably ignoble bloodlines), but instead will tend to select in favour of people with the strongest desire to reproduce, which is the opposite of our goal!

The only behaviour that can be used reliably to decide who should be allowed to reproduce is behaviour during early childhood, prior to those being selected becoming aware that state control over reproduction even exists.

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Patrik Baboumian is promoted amongst vegans for being strong like this without consuming animals.

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If he can convert to veganism people that otherwise would not consider it, I of course support this on a pragmatic level, as every former non-vegan becoming vegan - irrespective of their reason for doing so - reduces the total number of victims of the meat/dairy/egg industries.

This does not diminish my point that those who would only become vegan after seeing him (as opposed to, for example, seeing violence against animals, duh!) are, among vegans, the biologically inferior fraction who should not be allowed to reproduce.

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Fertility is racist:

medicalxpress.com/news/2011-06-prejudice-linked-women-menstrual.html

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fertile women were more biased against men of different races and men of different social groups than men of their own group.
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McDonald and Navarrete said their team's findings are consistent with the idea that women's prejudice may reflect the workings of an evolved psychological system that once functioned to protect them from sexual coercion, particularly when the costs are highest – that is, when women are fertile.

So what does this say about the majority of men who prefer fertile women?

medicalxpress.com/news/2012-08-men-women-fertile.html

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a growing body of evidence that suggests that men are able to not only detect when women are ovulating, but find them more attractive

(I personally find even the idea that a menstrual cycle exists to be disturbing. I have always been disgusted by sanitary pad/tampon/etc. commercials especially, and can never look in the same way afterwards at the celebrities who star in the commercials. Fortunately, celebrities picked for such commercials tend to be high in sexual dimorphism anyway, and hence not ones that I particularly liked in the first place.)

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When we're judging aesthetics, the main focus is not actually about the individuals in the images. It's about the perceptions of the individuals who are viewing the images! How a viewer reacts to the images and how attractive they consider the images is a test revealing the quality of the viewer's aesthetics.

We must use photos of actual people to discuss about aesthetics, because artistic depictions and computer-generated images are not always available and not always able to evoke the same emotions and reactions as images of real people.


In other words, when we have these sorts of discussions, we are not discussing the ethical quality of someone like Baboumian and whether or not he personally should be allowed to reproduce, but rather people who view photos of him and find his physical type the most attractive.

If instead of using photos of Baboumian, we used some random person from the street, there would be no way to determine the ethical quality of that individual solely from looking at them. The only thing we could determine is the aesthetic quality of whoever looks at the photos! And, indeed, that is what we are testing.


We judge highly masculine and highly feminine body types to be aesthetically inferior because these body types are correlated with ignoble character traits (i.e. see all the scientific studies that have been posted here. Factors such as high testosterone/estrogen are often what are influencing both the body types and behaviors). Therefore, we hypothesize an individual who prefers highly-sexually-dimorphic body types will have a higher tendency towards those ignoble character traits as well.

Additionally, over time, selection for highly-dimorphic body types will also decrease the average ethical quality of the population (again, because selecting for these body types will increase average testosterone/estrogen levels in the population). This is why racial idealism matters in the long run.

It is not because these body/face types themselves inherently cause ignoble behavior. As you point out, Baboumian is vegan, and therefore ethically superior to an androgynous-looking person who has always preferred a meat-heavy diet. But, we aren't judging him as an individual, but instead the people who find his body type the most attractive.

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"Additionally, over time, selection for highly-dimorphic body types will also decrease the average ethical quality of the population (again, because selecting for these body types will increase average testosterone/estrogen levels in the population)."

It's even worse than you describe:

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513817304105

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Recent evidence suggests that in sexual selection on human males, intrasexual competition plays a larger role than female choice. In a sample of men (N = 164), we sought to provide further evidence on the effects of men's physical dominance and sexual attractiveness on mating success and hence in sexual selection. Objective measures and subjective ratings of male sexually dimorphic traits purportedly under sexual selection (height, vocal and facial masculinity, upper body size from 3D scans, physical strength, and baseline testosterone) and observer perceptions of physical dominance and sexual attractiveness based on self-presentation video recordings were assessed and associated with mating success (sociosexual behaviour and number of potential conceptions) in a partly longitudinal design. Results from structural equation models and selection analyses revealed that physical dominance, but not sexual attractiveness, predicted mating success. Physical dominance mediated associations of upper body size, physical strength, as well as vocal and facial physical dominance and attractiveness with mating success. These findings thus suggest a greater importance of intrasexual competition than female choice in human male sexual selection.

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www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200526151738.htm

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One in three women in Europe inherited the receptor for progesterone from Neandertals -- a gene variant associated with increased fertility, fewer bleedings during early pregnancy and fewer miscarriages. This is according to a study published in Molecular Biology and Evolution by researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Germany and Karolinska Institutet in Sweden.
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Progesterone is a hormone, which plays an important role in the menstrual cycle and in pregnancy. Analyses of biobank data from more than 450,000 participants -- among them 244,000 women -- show that almost one in three women in Europe have inherited the progesterone receptor from Neandertals. Twenty-nine percent carry one copy of the Neandertal receptor and three percent have two copies.
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The study shows that women who carry the Neandertal variant of the receptor tend to have fewer bleedings during early pregnancy, fewer miscarriages, and give birth to more children.

Carriers should be prohibited from reproducing.
Title: Re: Non-Aryan maturity
Post by: Starling on August 29, 2020, 07:20:27 am
From the amusing, yet totally stupid Incel Wiki

A beauty scale:
(https://incels.wiki/images/a/a5/Scale.jpg)

Note the male ideal presented: "Square face, with masculine features, and hunter eyes."
AKA: GigaChad, who is idealized on this site.

The female ideal also has a square face and is suggested that fashion modelling has the ideal look. :o
Crapitalism Alert!
That said, guy #8 (Ryan Gosling) looks like he's an oval face, which should by default put him higher than others.
Title: Re: Re: Non-Aryan maturity
Post by: rp on August 29, 2020, 08:10:38 am
Some incels idealize non-square face having female models as HQNP (high quality non primitive) over square-foot having ones. However it should be noted that these models are nonetheless high in serial dimorphism.
Title: Re: Re: Non-Aryan maturity
Post by: guest5 on August 29, 2020, 02:18:22 pm
Humanity is pathetic, especially western humanity. That's my major take away from all this. Just reading that chart above made me want to stick my finger down my throat....

Absolutely abysmal. If I were an alien with the means to vanish humanity in the blink of an eye I would do it without even thinking twice.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 30, 2020, 12:37:03 am
@Starling

"Note the male ideal presented: "Square face, with masculine features, and hunter eyes.""

Do you know Stargate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-hoEoga8no

Compare Ra's face with Colonel O'Neill's. Only Counterculture fans understand Sun god >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chad.

A fundamental problem with the incel approach is seen in how they say the 10-rated men are "considered attractive by 99% of females", even as incels simultaneously claim to despise females. So if they despise females so much, why do they accept the standards of "99% of females" as the correct standards? The simple answer is that they don't really despise females; they merely want to look like Chad (but do not).

In contrast, I do not care if 99% of people are aesthetically Eurocentric; that only tells me they are all psychologically colonized idiots:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/

Therefore I can truly say that I despise Eurocentrists. Which includes incels, by the way:

https://incels.co/threads/if-you-were-reborn-again-which-race-would-you-choose.124263/

"The female ideal also has a square face"

Emma Watson has a short face for sure, but I would say nearer to round than square:

(https://cache.net-a-porter.com/content/images/story-body-content-V1-0-1537350316166.jpeg/w950_q65.jpeg)

This is consistent with incels preferring high sexual dimorphism, as they certainly would not give a 10-rating to a man who looks like Watson!
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: Starling on August 31, 2020, 10:31:21 pm
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Do you know Stargate?

Yes, I saw the movie a while back. Only now did I realize that the likeness for Ra was Akhnaton. Though the Sun God is portrayed antagonistically here has a slave-driver pharaoh of Jewish lore. So, the filmmakers could be venting their frustrations with the Demiurge while projecting it onto a Sun God/Solar Monarch... sad. Any positive portrayals or such kings?

Also, @90sRetroFan... how would you rate Ryan Gosling (#8 on the male side of the chart)? Out of the males presented, he seems to be more ovular/Aryan.

Also also, I just noticed the preference for male facial hair. 5 out of 10 presented males have it, including the top 4 ranks.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 01, 2020, 12:37:22 am
"how would you rate Ryan Gosling"

I dislike ratings (1-10) as such because it turns individuals into statistics, but I am happy to comment on Gosling's face shape. Let's get a bigger picture first:

(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/a38/115/7115b4d2e2ba7aef86ee5773f0bda7a052-29-Ryan-Gosling.rsquare.w1200.jpg)

His face is long but tending oblong - note how the two sides of his face are almost like parallel straight lines until the jaw. For oval, we want a face that starts narrowing from the eyes down (such that [width at mouth] < [width at eyes]). In the past you asked me about Edward Norton, remember? Contrast:

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/P0TW1Y/original-film-title-red-dragon-english-title-red-dragon-film-director-brett-ratner-year-2002-stars-edward-norton-credit-universal-studios-wilson-glen-album-P0TW1Y.jpg)

Similarly:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-q6rlgHmHZJM/UROd6VdvW0I/AAAAAAAAEUw/R44kdG5OKaI/s1600/jaye-davidson-stargate-jaye-davidson-16997064-2048-1536.jpg)

I was discussing the oblong face with Zea_Mays over email one time. Here is our dialogue:

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Whenever in doubt, I recommend going back to neoteny. While we agree that Oblong is less robust than Square, do you not think that Oblong is actually the LEAST neotenous of all the shapes, even less so than Square? I have seen children with Square, Pentagon, Round and Oval faces, but have you ever seen a child with an Oblong face? I haven't. Therefore Oblong could be viewed as a terminal group for selective pressure that minimizes neoteny.

From a face shape standpoint I agree Oblongs are the least neotenous (I've also never seen a child with such a shape), but if we also take into account somatotype, many Oblongs seem to be rather tall/skinny. This leads me to think that they must have at least some interplay with Ovals (who are the 'core' ectomorphic type). Perhaps Oblongs are a terminal group rather than a 'transition' group, but if shapes like the Square and Pentagon--which are associated with core racial groups--can transform, surely Oblongs could too?

Again let's look at how children's face shapes change as they become adults.

Square adults were Square or Round children.

Pentagon adults were Pentagon, Oval or Round children.

Oval adults were Oval, Round or Pentagon children. (Note that this is the same set as the Pentagon.)

Round adults were Round, Oval or Pentagon children. (Same set again.)

Oblong adults were Oval or Square children.

Not only is the Oblong the odd one out in terms of not being able to map onto itself, but also the Pentagon, Oval and Round taken together map onto themselves. This suggests to me that the Oblong is a dead end.


That is a very good argument. I suppose if I look at the transitions in a more "fluid" manner, then having shapes take a "detour" through a group like the Elongated Pentagon before transforming into Oval makes more sense than going directly through the Oblong.

It is interesting that you mention a connection between Rounds and Ovals. It is technically possible for an Oval to be reduced to a Round, although I'm not sure how common this is in real life.

"Also also, I just noticed the preference for male facial hair."

For me it's not about whether they shave or not, but the size of their facial hair area (which is merely easier to see when they don't shave). Someone with a small facial hair area who doesn't shave is still lower in sexual dimorphism than someone with a large facial hair area who does shave; shaving merely temporarily hides it.

Here is a drawing of Jomon, Yayoi and Yamato (ie. mixed) facial hair areas, for example:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKQ5ZOgU0AAXImQ.jpg)

See what I mean?
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: Soleil on September 03, 2020, 06:00:12 am
Incels are inferior by the simple fact that they do not rebel against the established norms of women attracted to men with inferior features but feel a strong resentment at the idea of not being like them.
They are nothing more than failed tribalists and would seize any opportunity to be part of bullies. That is why I consider them enemies and feel no pity for them.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 22, 2020, 04:24:42 pm
https://us.yahoo.com/huffpost/jimmy-kimmel-donald-trump-hands-144006353.html

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Jimmy Kimmel noticed Monday how President Donald Trump gestured when he said he might nominate a woman to replace Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who died last week. (See the monologue below.)

It seems the president moved his hands in the shape of an hourglass ― an outdated gesture for denoting a woman’s curves.

“Who does that?” the talk show host said. “His mouth is always lying but his little hands tell the truth.”

The comedian then showed an example from earlier in the coronavirus pandemic. The president spoke of research “models.” And once again his hands went to work.

Well spotted!

Remember, the hourglass shape for women (ie. high sexual dimorphism) is an exclusively Western preference. Only Western clothes are designed to emphasize this shape:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_corsets

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The corset first became popular in sixteenth-century Europe, reaching the zenith of its popularity in the Victorian era. While the corset has typically been worn as an undergarment, it has occasionally been used as an outer-garment; corsets as outer-garments can be seen in the national dress of many European countries.[2]:22

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/P5904296.gif)

For that matter, it wasn't that long ago when even women wearing trousers was considered unacceptable in Western civilization (whereas women in other civilizations have worn trousers alongside men uncontroversially):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousers#Society

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Based on Deuteronomy 22:5 in the Bible ("The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man"), some groups, including the Amish, Hutterites, some Mennonites, some Baptists, a few Church of Christ groups, and most Orthodox Jews, believe that women should not wear trousers. These groups permit women to wear underpants as long as they are hidden. By contrast, many Muslim sects approve of pants as they are considered more modest than any skirt that is shorter than ankle length.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on September 22, 2020, 10:52:34 pm
"Well spotted!"
Too bad it had to be followed up ridiculing Trump's "small hands". I guess you can't wish for everything.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 13, 2020, 11:26:09 pm
Nixon reveals his inferiority (preference for high sexual dimorphism):

https://www.news18.com/news/world/pathetic-most-unattractive-richard-nixons-hostility-for-india-revealed-in-new-tapes-2851699.html

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New Delhi: A set of newly declassified tapes from the White House reveal the stark hostility former US President Richard Nixon had towards India and Indians. Nixon referred to Indians as the “most sexless” and “pathetic”, and called Indian women the “most unattractive women in the world” during a meeting with senior officials at the Oval Office on June 17, 1971, reports say.
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Nixon's antipathy towards Indians was also fanned by Henry Kissinger, the National Security Adviser during that time, who also determined US policy towards New Delhi in the early 1970s, Indian Express reported. Richard Nixon, a Republican, was the 37th President of the United States, serving from 1969 until 1974.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 19, 2020, 10:48:32 pm
Evidence that (as I have asserted for years) Francis is nothing but False Left genetic trash:

https://us.yahoo.com/news/vatican-launches-inquiry-pope-francis-162323501.html

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A Brazilian bikini model has joked that she is “going to heaven” after a photograph of her in a skimpy schoolgirl outfit was ‘liked’ by the official Instagram account of Pope Francis.

The model:

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/q0xBjxlZ5xCREs054PGjJw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQ0MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en-GB/the_telegraph_258/2260594255568806099ec400303e1305)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 22, 2020, 12:51:48 am
I was laughing at the sheer inferior taste over here:

https://incels.co/threads/sexual-dimorphism-is-bullshit.259950/

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Looking good = being dimorphic. How can you not understand this?

Foids want a man whose arms are as thick as her torso, who can kill other men with his bare hands, not some chinky fag who produces as much testosterone as a **** chihuahua.
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This is a top-tier white Chad. His SMV is basically infinite. He can point at a foid and she’ll be sucking his dick within seconds.

(https://incels.co/attachments/be5fd588-e203-4bae-8c3e-9fae83fd76f9-jpeg.375531/)
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show me their K-pop equivalents and tell me that dimorphism doesn’t matter

Everyone here knows I hate K-pop. Alan Tam, on the other hand, I am a fan of (thank you Counterculture!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0gneecOhU4

Dimorphism does matter: low sexual dimorphism is superior. Note how much more gracilized Tam is compared to the ugly female model (2:23-2:27), who on the other hand would look about facially matched if paired with "top-tier white Chad" above instead - that is how ugly "top-tier white Chad" actually is. Tam's facial match, on the other hand (repost):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMJ1juwb8TM
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: Prite on November 22, 2020, 07:01:29 am
https://www.8days.sg/sceneandheard/entertainment/alan-tam-s-love-life-likened-to-a-palace-drama-cos-of-his-13159954

How about his 2 wives, Sally Yeung Kit-mei and Wendy Chu Wing-ting?

(https://i.postimg.cc/KKjr5xgC/at1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKjr5xgC)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 22, 2020, 10:44:01 pm
They do not appear in his music videos, so it doesn't really matter what they look like. It is only when someone is chosen to represent supposed "beauty" that I worry about their whether or not their looks justify it.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 20, 2020, 12:00:24 am
https://www.psypost.org/2020/12/women-overestimate-mens-attraction-to-thin-female-fashion-models-study-finds-58831

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The researchers found that while men and women gave similar ratings to the models, neither gender was accurate at guessing how the other would evaluate the models. Both men and women felt that the other sex would be less likely to rate the models as too thin and more likely to find the models attractive than they actually were. The researchers call this a “parallel misconception”, explaining that men overestimated the extent that women would idealize the models’ bodies, and women similarly overestimated the extent that men would admire the models’ bodies.

In other words, both men and women overestimate our influence in society.

(For the record, most fashion models are facially ugly despite having thin bodies. Here is the picture that goes with the article:

(https://eadn-wc03-196922.nxedge.io/cdn/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/thin-skinny-runway-fashion-models.jpg)

Note the robust jaw of the model nearest the camera.)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 04, 2021, 03:41:56 am
Tanya Roberts just died:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DNmARLBPLI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_Roberts

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Roberts was born in 1955 in the Bronx, New York City, the second child of a father of Irish descent and a Jewish mother.[2]

But wait!

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Roberts was married to Barry Roberts from 1974 until his death in 2006. They had no children.[11]

Heritage matters when it is passed down, not when it is terminated. Therefore Roberts is not a Jew.

(If everyone with Jewish parents followed Roberts' example, the Jewish problem would be solved in one generational cycle.)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: guest5 on January 16, 2021, 08:57:24 pm
Trump Goon: He's The MOST Masculine President EVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAyOyTPeRWE

Surprised again!!! Never thought I'd agree with a Trump goon on anything.

Does anyone anticipate Musk putting a massive bust of himself in the entrance of his Mars colony with a plaque on it that reads, "Welcome to Mars, and don't forget, I'm yo daddy!!!"? Musk is literally a mini-Martian-Yahweh!  ;D
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 17, 2021, 11:06:15 pm
https://www.livescience.com/21172-men-sexist-attitudes-muscles.html

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Men obsessed with building muscles are significantly more likely to objectify women, be hostile toward women, and have sexist attitudes, new research finds.

As we expected.

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"We have previously found that men who hold stronger oppressive beliefs are more likely to think that thinner women are attractive," study researcher Viren Swarmi, of the University of Westminster in the United Kingdom, told LiveScience in an email.

This fails to distinguish between those (True Leftists) who also prefer men to be thin and those (rightists) who prefer men to not be thin. The problem is not (as False Leftists think) preferring women to be thin, but having gender-based double-standards.

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"but we're also arguing that those oppressive beliefs directed at women also have an impact on men's own body images, specifically their drive for muscularity," Swarmi said.

In other words, this does not apply to us. We want both men and women to be thin, thus reducing sexual dimorphism, whereas rightists want muscular men and thin women, thus increasing sexual dimorphism.

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Those men who showed more interest in being muscular were also more likely than others to score higher on sexist beliefs, hostility toward and objectification of women.

"We think men who hold oppressive beliefs about women and gender equality are also more likely to endorse traditional stereotypes of masculinity, which includes the muscular physique," Swarmi said.

"In addition, in societies where patriarchal structures are being challenged, some men may seek to reassert their masculinity by enhancing their physiques." For example, they might react to having a female boss by beefing up at the gym.

Again, not us. Our enemies, on the other hand, are perfect examples:

https://incels.co/threads/if-allah-appeared-before-you-and-told-you-he-would-change-your-looks-as-you-wished-what-would-you-do.274425/

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This is how i imagine myself in my dreams.

https://incels.co/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fimg-comment-fun.9cache.com%2Fmedia%2Fa6N2rnN%2Fa5jPb5LB_700w_0.jpg&hash=a1ffe7d8a8e32f326e8f22ac5f596640

https://incels.co/threads/how-do-you-rate-foids.269687/

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There are 100/10 giga stacies that I don't even get a crush on because they're light years out of my league like top models and top actresses. Barbara Palvin for example:

https://incels.co/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hawtcelebs.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F03%2Fbarbara-palvin-for-aimer-spring-summer-2019-14.jpg&hash=8c74584fc4ebcea668d4a41ad2015ba2

And no, it's not just the low camera angle; her face really is that short:

(https://photo1.allfamous.org/public/people/headshots/barbara-palvin-19931008-allfamous.org-7.jpg)

A short face and a thin body is actually a horrible combination.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 24, 2021, 12:38:05 am
No wonder I have always found makeup disgusting:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1068/p6331

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female faces were shown to have greater luminance contrast between the eyes, lips, and the surrounding skin than did male faces. This sex difference in facial contrast was found to influence the perception of facial gender. An androgynous face can be made to appear female by increasing the facial contrast, or to appear male by decreasing the facial contrast. Application of cosmetics was found to consistently increase facial contrast. Female faces wearing cosmetics had greater facial contrast than the same faces not wearing cosmetics. Female facial beauty is known to be closely linked to sex differences, with femininity considered attractive. These results suggest that cosmetics may function in part by exaggerating a sexually dimorphic attribute—facial contrast—to make the face appear more feminine and hence attractive.

No. Femininity in female faces is considered attractive only by inferior* people. Superior people have the exact opposite tastes (by which I mean we prefer low sexual dimorphism, not that we prefer masculinity (Westerners perpetually struggle with this conceptual distinction)). The superior may be the minority, but it is sloppy academic writing to make it sound like the superior minority does not exist.

(* The subhumans who like makeup on females almost always dislike makeup on males, a double-standard. This gender-based double-standard is what makes them inferior. While I would disagree with someone who likes makeup on both males and females, I would not consider such a person aesthetically inferior as they at least have no gender-based double-standard. (I would consider still them ecologically/economically inferior, but that is a separate discussion.))
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 05, 2021, 01:14:01 am
Our enemies exhibit their gender-based double-standards:

https://www.amren.com/blog/2021/04/even-those-who-would-be-trad-wives-may-miss-their-chances/

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White trad wives are the most desired creatures on the planet, but many white women still manage to blow it because they have never been told the rules that were invented by our female ancestors to protect their daughters. Even when men have fewer choices, they will still be men, even those who have the vision to create a family and build their own white clan.
...
The white woman should be reactive, which is the opposite of the sexually aggressive, dominant, promiscuous, vulgar, emotionally empty woman that modern media have taught us to be: “Just be yourself, throw yourself over him, and it will magically work out”. It won’t. Men appreciate women with standards and values they want transmitted to their children even if they themselves are not 100 percent up to these standards.

In other words, according to rightists, men can be promiscuous, but women cannot. Men should reject promiscuous women but women should accept promiscuous men.

And of course some Gentile blood memory:

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I wish our men could help us become better versions of ourselves by explaining what makes us attractive. Unfortunately, reality is different. We must discover who we are, and whom we want to attract. Men must do the same. Fish do not tell fishermen how or when to cast their lines. Fishermen must figure this out for themselves.

The comments are even worse:

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One of the things I like about President Trump is that he has made more like himself/ourselves. Failed marriages? So what. That's not important. The important thing to do is reproduce and reproduce White.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on April 09, 2021, 10:33:14 pm
https://lookism.net/threads/elon-musk-is-a-slayer.364418/
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He said that went to college partly just to meet girls lmao, he chose Queen's University because of its high female-male ratio. Meanwhile an incel wouldn't even dream of meeting girls. What a **** jock tbh, he's had three divorces, is 6'2'', is a multi billionaire, very high IQ and has a big robust skull.

(https://i.imgur.com/2QHrstc.jpg)

Giants are usually less intelligent than their Turanian counterparts. Musk seems to be an exception.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 09, 2021, 11:48:12 pm
"Giants are usually less intelligent than their Turanian counterparts."

I wouldn't make such a claim. They may be less adept at social manipulation, but there is no reason why they would not have been selected for high technical intelligence, which is what IQ test score measures.

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What a **** jock tbh, he's had three divorces

Citing number of divorces as an achievement is a good example of our enemies' value system.

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big robust skull.

It's a consistent Musk family trait:

(https://cdn.5280.com/2020/04/Musk_family_Courtesy_Chris_Ruth_Photography.jpg)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on April 10, 2021, 12:38:53 am
" may be less adept at social manipulation"

Perhaps this could account for Musk's unpolished social interactions.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on April 21, 2021, 12:59:19 am
Even in non-Western countries traits such as agressiveness and high sexual dimorphism are seen as "attractive" by many. Perhaps this is simply because non-Aryans are the majority in all countries, but I do not believe these traits would be extolled as much as they are now were it not for Western influence.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 21, 2021, 04:13:45 am
At least in pre-colonial-era non-Western countries, those who like high sexual dimorphism (even if the majority) could be mocked as having vulgar plebian tastes. In a culturally non-democratic society, what is considered aesthetically superior is not necessarily what is popular but what is endorsed by culture leaders who were trusted to have good taste. Back then, if an aesthetical preference was popular but not shared by any of the culture leaders, one would conclude that most people have not reached the cultural level required to understand the reason behind the culture leaders' consensus rejection of it. This is how we explain why, despite (as you say) the majority in non-Western countries liking high sexual dimorphism, we do not see this preference reflected in non-Western clothing styles etc. anywhere near as much as in their Western counterparts, because clothing styles were determined not by the majority but by artisans.

What happened during colonialism was that, in the minds of the colonized majorities, the colonialists replaced the local artisans as those trusted to have good taste. Worse, even some* of the less self-confident artisans themselves started trusting the colonialists over their own senses, and hence deliberately Westernized their own tastes in order to 'keep up'! What we are here to do is to gather the incorruptible remnants who never stopped despising Western aesthetics, and restore these individuals to their deserving roles as culture leaders.

This is why it is so important for us not just to state our preference, but to explicitly claim that our preference is superior. This is why I don't just say: "Porizkova is not my type," instead I say outright: "Porizkova is UGLY, and if you disagree you have inferior blood, and if you are physically able to have sex with her, you should be prohibited from reproducing!" I am putting the vulgar plebs back in their place. And similarly here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on April 21, 2021, 07:02:43 pm
"vulgar plebian tastes"
Vulgarity also seems to have become fashionable in non-Western countries. Western Civilization seems to be effective in societally elevating non-Aryan traits and by extension non-Aryans, effectively ensuring Aryan blood becomes rarer than it is already.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on May 16, 2021, 12:42:27 am
Our enemies ridicule us using the incel "Virgin vs Chad" meme:
(https://i.redd.it/zujtn0gb9ui51.png)

All of their descriptors are accurate (save for the labelling of inferior traits as "superior) except for one: the complexion. Neolithic people had darker skin due to their exposure to the sun, unlike the subhuman Ice Age Giants.

FYI "Stacy" is an archetypal high sexually dimorphic female, the counterpart to a "Chad"

Anyway, it is good to see our enemies making it clear how they view themselves (and us). Now it is our turn to make it clear how we view ourselves (and them). In other words, the good guys have always been the good guys, and the bad guys have always been the bad guys.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 16, 2021, 01:36:33 am
"Neolithic people had darker skin due to their exposure to the sun, unlike the subhuman Ice Age Giants."

I think they are citing:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/first-modern-britons-dark-black-skin-cheddar-man-dna-analysis-reveals

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Scientists believe that populations living in Europe became lighter-skinned over time because pale skin absorbs more sunlight, which is required to produce enough vitamin D. The latest findings suggest pale skin may have emerged later, possibly when the advent of farming meant people were obtaining less vitamin D though dietary sources like oily fish.

""Stacy" is an archetypal high sexually dimorphic female,"

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/gentilism/msg2646/#msg2646

In any case, their points contradict one another. If we are "harvesting grain all day", how can we also be living a "sedentary life"? So which is it?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aryan-labour/

Similarly, if we live next to rivers, why would we need rainwater?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aryan-hydraulic-empire/
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on May 16, 2021, 01:44:34 am
If they mean "sedentary" in the sense of "settling down in one place", they would be correct. But if by "sedentary" they mean "sitting around", then they would be wrong.

I would agree though that a farmer would be "weaker" in terms of brute physical strength than a hunter.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on May 16, 2021, 02:13:51 am
"https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/gentilism/msg2646/#msg2646"

See also:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/gentilism/msg6427/#msg6427

"beautiful cave art"
 :D :D
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on May 16, 2021, 11:30:03 am
"I think they are citing:"

So now we know why the bully Chads use "pale skinned beta male" as an insult; they are exuding their non-Aryan blood memory! Contrast the "pale skinned beta males" to the appearance of many present day Giants, whose inability to absorb sunlight leaves them with a discolored, almost burnt pigmentation. [CLICK FOR EXAMPLE  (https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/f74/7dd/34179dd2a531d68b50caaf76e1deda5f29-04-trump-tan.rsquare.w1200.jpg) (too disgusting to include on page)]

Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 16, 2021, 02:21:11 pm
"too disgusting to include on page"

Hey, we survived looking at him almost every day for the previous 4 years!

In any case, this is why "white" as used to describe our enemies is one of the biggest misnomers there is (hence our insistence on putting it in "":

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg520/#msg520

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg523/#msg523

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg524/#msg524

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

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Christian Identity proponents point out that the Hebrew etymology of the word 'Adam' translates as 'be ruddy, red, to show blood (in the face)'
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 08, 2021, 10:40:37 pm
We already know that STEM is a field where male overrepresentation is expected, but look at this graph where it is broken down by ethnicity:

(https://assets.realclear.com/images/54/545088_5_.png)

This fits with previous observations such as:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg460/#msg460

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An interesting finding is that all European countries revealed 420
larger differences between male and female average faces than in all the other populations.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 15, 2021, 01:56:47 am
Ha!

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0018506X08002298

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Men report stronger attraction to femininity in women's faces when their testosterone levels are high

The organ that rightist men think with:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Figure_28_01_03.JPG)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 12, 2021, 11:32:38 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-women-including-feminists-still-133102052.html

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Why women – including feminists – are still attracted to 'benevolently sexist' men
...
If a man offers to help a woman with her heavy suitcase or to parallel park her car, what should she make of the offer?

Is it an innocuous act of courtesy? Or is it a sexist insult to her strength and competence?

Would the man in question make the same offer to another man in otherwise the same situation?

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Social psychologists who describe this behavior as “benevolent sexism” firmly favor the latter view.

They are correct.

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But researchers have also revealed a paradox: Women prefer men who behave in ways that could be described as benevolently sexist over those who don’t.

How could this be?

Because the (probably more feminine) women in past generations who preferred sexist men reproduced more than the (probably less feminine) women who don't, thus women alive today are mostly the descendants of the former and thus more likely to themselves share the former's attitude. The solution is for the state to prohibit reproduction of women who prefer sexist men.

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Some say that women simply fail to see the ways benevolent sexism undermines them because they’re misled by the flattering tone of this brand of kindness. Psychologists have even suggested that benevolent sexism is more harmful than overtly hostile sexism because it is insidious, acting like “a wolf in sheep’s clothing.”

Exactly. And I must interject at this point to emphasize that men opening doors for women is a uniquely Western practice, as I previously mentioned here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-fingers/msg659/#msg659

In other words, Western sexism is more harmful than sexism found in any other historical civilization.

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Since then, social psychologists have been busy documenting the pernicious effects that benevolent sexism has on women.

According to studies, women who acquiesce to this behavior tend to become increasingly dependent on men for help. They’re more willing to allow men to tell them what they can and can’t do, are more ambivalent about thinking for themselves, are less ambitious and don’t perform as well at work and on cognitive tests.

This is what Western civilization looks like.

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Evolution, therefore, shaped female psychology to attend to – and prefer – mates whose characteristics and behaviors reveal the willingness to invest. A prospective mate’s muscular physique (and, today, his big wallet) certainly indicate that he possesses this ability. But opening a car door or offering his coat are signs that he may have the desired disposition.

By no coincidence, Western civilization also produces men with the most muscular physiques and the biggest wallets. This is why Western civilization must first die before we can even begin the project of breeding superior (ie. lower sexual dimorphism) humans.

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We found that strong feminists rated men as more patronizing and undermining than traditional women did. But like the other women, they still found these men more attractive; the drawbacks were outweighed by the men’s willingness to invest. It seems that even staunch feminists may prefer a chivalrous mate who picks up the check on a first date or walks closer to the curb on a sidewalk.

These so-called "feminists" should also be prohibited from reproducing.

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But several interesting questions remain. Does benevolent sexism always undermine women? It might depend on context. A male being overly helpful to a female co-worker in a patronizing way might hurt her ability to project professional competence. On the other hand, it’s tough to see the harm in helping a woman move heavy furniture in the home.

If it is good to help a woman move heavy furniture in the home, it is also good to help a man move heavy furniture in the home. So if a man would do it for a woman but not for another man, the man is not doing it with good intentions in mind. Furthermore, why not talk about a woman helping another woman move heavy furniture in the home? Is that not also good? And why not a woman helping a man move heavy furniture in the home? That's good too, surely?

Purely for entertainment:

https://us.yahoo.com/lifestyle/women-sharing-creepiest-nice-guy-031609263.html

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"I watched two guys get into a fist fight at an office Christmas party over who was going to 'help' an intoxicated 27-year-old married woman get home.

Repeat after me: Westerners are barbarians.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 01, 2021, 02:15:59 am
More Western obsession with sexual dimorphism on display:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/women-sharing-completely-normal-things-144503694.html

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Women Are Sharing The Completely Normal Things They Did That Somehow Pissed Off Men
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1. "I got a haircut. He was upset that I hadn’t discussed it with him first. We were not in a relationship. We were not friends. He was an acquaintance that I occasionally ran into, and he was livid that I had cut off my long, blonde hair without his input/permission."

–u/Nightmare_Gerbil

"I chopped my hair off into a pixie at 24. The number of random male acquaintances who felt the need to tell me that it was a bad idea and that women should have long hair was ASTONISHING. Didn't matter if I pointed out how much time and money long hair costs; obviously, women should suck that up for the viewing pleasure of the men they see occasionally. I can't even imagine having the audacity. I prefer facial hair on guys, but I don't walk around telling random dudes to grow a beard for me."

–u/Effective-Walrus1157

and other Western-style sexism:

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2."My ex asked if I wanted help carrying my bag at the airport. It was an old one with no wheels. I declined and carried it down a flight of stairs. When we arrived at the bottom, he got mad at me because he thought two men who happened to be standing there were judging him for not carrying my bag."

–u/Millie517
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4."My ex was mad at me for getting a better GPA than him in college. Then, he told me that if he stayed with me, I would prevent him from getting into medical school. We broke up, and it turned out that a year later, he couldn’t get into medical school because he wasn’t qualified. I had nothing to do with it."

–u/TheRestIs_Confetti

"Broke up with my ex over something like this. We studied the same degree, and I was generally always a bit better than him, which he was already miffed about. I assumed he was just being competitive. But then, we studied together for one of our math exams, and I got 100%, and he barely passed. He exploded at me and said I did it on purpose to humiliate him. Like, what?"

–u/aliciachiquata
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 16, 2021, 08:57:37 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/people-tiktok-talking-hogging-because-221805804.html

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"hogging" is basically when groups of men compete to have sex with the "fattest" woman at a bar or party.
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According to Slate, people reported the Zeta Beta Tau fraternity for having what they called a "pig roast," where members of the house "competed to sleep with women they consider overweight."
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"Hogging is a practice of achieving masculinity," Megan told BuzzFeed. "One of the ways men can do that, in their eyes, is by sleeping with the greatest number of people possible. They see fat women as easy targets."

Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 10, 2021, 02:09:40 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuL5JREzSgU
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 16, 2021, 08:54:28 pm
Recall from:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg460/#msg460

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An interesting finding is that all European countries revealed 420
larger differences between male and female average faces than in all the other populations.

Now another correlation that reinforces this, noticed by our enemies:

https://vdare.com/posts/stat-news-the-whitest-specialty-in-medicine

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While medicine as a whole, and even other elite specialties like dermatology, thoracic surgery, and otolaryngology, has begun to increase the number of people of color in its ranks, orthopedics’ numbers have barely budged. Less than 2% of those practicing in the field are Black, just 2.2% are Hispanic, and 0.4% are Native American. Even Asian American physicians, a group considered overrepresented in medicine, are much scarcer in orthopedics, making up just 6.7% of these specialists.
...
Orthopedics is also the most male of specialties:

Specialties with the fewest female physicians are:

Plastic and general surgery: 20%
Cardiology: 14%
Urology: 11%
Orthopedics/orthopedics surgery: 9%

If the most male speciality is also the most "white", this is consistent with "white" males being on average more masculine than "non-white" men. False Leftists are afraid to admit this because (being Westerners) deep down they still like masculinity. We are not afraid to admit this because we genuinely despise masculinity.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 30, 2021, 08:04:10 pm
Our enemies again explain what they like:

https://vdare.com/articles/on-edward-o-wilson-a-genius-so-massive-and-important-was-his-contribution-and-the-last-of-the-scientific-generation-that-believed-in-truth

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high in systematizing but low in empathy—the extreme “male brain.”

This is Wilson (note face shape):

(https://vdare.com/public_upload/publication/featured_image/56602/VDARE-eo-wilson-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 08, 2022, 08:50:04 pm
Previously:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg10146/#msg10146

Now our enemies provide further data confirming their own inferiority (which they, being fans of high sexual dimorphism, are proud of):

https://www.amren.com/features/2022/01/how-and-why-men-and-women-differ-in-intelligence/

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Gerhard Meisenburg is among those who have found a male advantage among whites of over 35 percent of a standard deviation (written 0.35d, and equivalent to 5 IQ points), compared to only 0.10d (1.5 points) among blacks. This is consistent with J. P. Rushton’s finding that brain mass differences by sex are smaller, both absolutely and relatively, among blacks than whites.

If we want to breed humans for low sexual dimorphism, it is clear whom we need to prohibit from reproducing first.

Our enemies further elaborate:

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men throw more accurately than women, whether at stationary or moving targets. The difference shows up by age four, and is independent of male superiority in spatial abilities. The evolutionary advantage for hunting should be obvious.

I know. (Also note Original Nobility is yet again consistent with Original Low Sexual Dimorphism (underlined).)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 03, 2022, 09:39:46 pm
Our enemies have figured out why Western aesthetics emphasize 3D so much. The answer is..... sexual dimorphism:

https://vdare.com/posts/shape-rotators-vs-wordcels

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3-D mental imagination is notably less correlated with the overall g factor. So you get a fair number of inarticulate guys who can visualize objects in space really well.

This may help explain why men tend to have, even relative to their body size, bigger brains than women: just as gaming PCs have, between their CPU and GPU, more volume devoted to processing, so do male brains.

Verbal vs. visual ability seems to be like buying a PC: the power of the CPU, like the g factor, determines how well it processes verbal and quantitative data. But if you want a gaming computer for 3-D imagery, it helps to add a GPU, a graphics processing unit.

Just as most people with PCs with high end GPU chips are male, most people with high end shape rotation skills are male, probably for similar reasons: 3d brainpower is useful in fighting, hunting, making objects, and moving large, bulky objects like my new treadmill.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: SirGalahad on February 04, 2022, 12:14:54 am
This is actually similar to something my older sister repeated to me from a psychology class that she took a long time ago. Basically, a study found that women were more likely to prefer flat games over games with 3D environments than men were, and the speculation is that certain attributes of games with 3D environments activate certain natural tendencies of men. My sister is quite a bit older than me, so she finished it off with an anecdote that when games started becoming 3D, her reaction was basically "What the **** is this?" and she lost interest even though she had previously played 2D side-scrolling games (like Donkey Kong Country on the SNES, for example) with her grandma all the time. My younger sister was the same way, actually. She would play New Super Mario Bros and Super Smash Bros with me all the time, but games with 3D environments usually didn't catch her interest at all.

I'm obviously not sure about the veracity of any of this, and there's a possibility that any research done on the topic is outdated since my sister is recalling a memory from 15 years ago or more, but I think it's interesting to think about.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 04, 2022, 12:36:10 am
"certain attributes of 3D games activate certain natural tendencies of men"

Yes, and in conjunction with our observations here (please feel welcome to discuss particular games in more detail over there if you want to):

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/is-counterculture-still-alive/msg7200/#msg7200

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/fighticewithfire/comment-page-1/#comment-174945

we can thus conclude that Western civilization is about making men more masculine.

"when games started becoming 3D, her reaction was basically "What the **** is this?" and she lost interest even though she had previously played 2D side-scrolling games"

This was my reaction also.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 20, 2022, 08:13:45 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KDA6xIj_qc

High sexual dimorphism women prefer high sexual dimorphism men?

One thing the incels got correct is that higher sexual dimorphism women are more tolerant towards sexism perpetrated by higher sexual dimorphism men. Thus sexism would be more tolerated on the whole in a society initially higher in average sexual dimorphism:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/temperature-effects/msg2459/#msg2459

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg10146/#msg10146
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on April 02, 2022, 03:56:58 am
Our enemies describe what makes them who they are:

https://vdare.com/articles/will-smith-chris-rock-and-the-weird-thing-you-didn-t-know-about-evolution

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White people’s average testicle size is significantly larger than that of blacks. Now why would this be?

It makes sense if we understand that the pre-history of Sub-Saharan Africans is better comparable to the situation with gorillas, who have small testicles, while the pre-history of Whites is better comparable to that of chimpanzees, who have large testicles.
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it would make sense to produce more semen as an insurance policy against your female having had sex with another male.
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Testicles are semen factories, so testicles would necessarily get bigger. This is the situation of chimpanzees. They live together in highly social groups, meaning that there is every opportunity for a female to have sex with multiple males. So, they have larger testicles than gorillas; with gorillas not needing larger testicles because they are unlikely to ever be cuckolded.

I always considered chimpanzees (omnivores) to be inferior to gorillas (herbivores).

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This applies to White-Black differences. Evolved to a relatively easy yet unstable ecology, blacks, compared to Whites, don’t need to cooperate as much. They, thus, create smaller and weaker social groups with less of an opportunity for cuckoldry. Moreover, they invest less in their offspring anyway, so it matters less if they are cuckolded.

Whites create large and highly bonded social groups, investing a great deal of energy in their offspring that they have with a smaller number of females, with whom they have less sex, so that they have energy to invest in the offspring. It thus matters a great deal if they are cuckolded and there are more opportunities for this to occur. As such, they need to produce more semen, resulting in larger testicles.

We also found some evidence that Northeast Asians have the smallest testicles of all. This would make sense insomuch as the groups are very highly cooperative and very low in testosterone, to the extent that the women are unlikely to cuckold the men despite ample opportunity to do so. Thus, the biological expense of growing large testicles is a waste of energy for such a group.

Conclusion: those with large testicles should be prohibited from reproducing.

Bonus video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEhOwEDyYnM
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on April 08, 2022, 10:15:04 pm
Reminder that this is how False Leftists view the ideal "non-White":
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/298/385/bc5.png)

Note in particular how the last names are an allusion to the False Left's worship of high sexual dimorphism, especially of the phallus (I. Thundercock, Titandick, Long Wang, El Grande, Alhaqauq, Goldschlong)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 01, 2022, 03:16:27 pm
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10646-6

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we explored associations between perceived dominance, perceived sex-typicality, measured sexual shape dimorphism, and skin colour in a European and an African population. Unlike previous studies, we investigated the effect of facial variation due to shape separately from variation due to visual cues not related to shape in natural nonmanipulated stimuli. In men, perceived masculinity was associated with perceived dominance in both populations. In European women higher perceived femininity was, surprisingly, likewise positively associated with perceived dominance.

I do not find it surprising. If the underlying preference is for high sexual dimorphism (as indeed it is among Westerners), then it is to be expected that masculine men and feminine women both have advantages.

Another way to look at it is that in order to have high sexual dimorphism, you must be low in neoteny. Adults (male or female) are perceived by Westerners as dominant over children (male or female). Duh!

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Czech women with higher perceived femininity were actually perceived as more dominant, while in Cameroonian women the association between perceived femininity and dominance was weakly negative.

We already know that Turanian women are the most feminine. Therefore more Turanian women are likely to be dominant in Turandom, whereas culturally far away from Turandom the opposite is the case.
Title: New study links support for Brett Kavanaugh to the endorsement of hegemonic masculinity
Post by: guest55 on May 15, 2022, 11:49:34 am
New study links support for Brett Kavanaugh to the endorsement of hegemonic masculinity
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People who held traditional stereotypes about masculinity tended to have more positive evaluations of Brett Kavanaugh during his contentious Supreme Court hearings and more negative evaluations of the women who accused him of sexual misconduct, according to new research published in Social Psychological and Personality Science.

The authors of the new research have previously found the endorsement of “hegemonic masculinity” — an idealized form of masculinity — was associated with support for Donald Trump.

“There has been a lot of coverage in the news and in daily conversations about masculinity – particularly “toxic masculinity.” So, it is important to understand how we – on the individual and societal level – internalize and endorse certain qualities of masculinity through our social, economic, and political institutions that lead to these toxic outcomes (e.g., sexual harassment, homophobic violence, gendered racism, etc.),” said study author Nathaniel Schermerhorn, a PhD student at The Pennsylvania State University.
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“Research has shown a link between masculinity and conservatism (e.g., McDermott, 2016; McDermott et al., 2021) and, in the present paper, we focus on a conservative political figure – Brett Kavanaugh,” Schermerhorn said. “Therefore, questions still remain as to how the endorsement of hegemonic masculinity relates to the support (or lack of support) for Democratic political figures and, equally as important, how Democratic politicians own endorsement of hegemonic masculinity influences their policies and actions.”
Entire article: https://www.psypost.org/2022/05/new-study-links-support-for-brett-kavanaugh-to-the-endorsement-of-hegemonic-masculinity-63141

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/antropocentricism-the-most-dangerous-ideology-in-the-world/
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 21, 2022, 03:07:29 am
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/05/18/ncreased-testosterone-levels-turns-voters-more-conservative/

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The study – Testosterone Administration Induces A Red Shift in Democrats – was published on November 14th, 2021 by Professor Paul Zak, the Director of the Center for Neuroeconomics Studies at Claremont Graduate University.

“His research has made a substantial impact in explaining the variation in human social behaviors and has been cited by other scholars over 18,000 times placing in the top 0.3% of all scholars,” explains his professional biography.

Zak’s latest findings reveal a link between testosterone levels and political preference through analyzing 136 voting-age males throughout the 2012 election season.

“Our results demonstrate that testosterone induces a “red shift” among weakly-affiliated Democrats,” summarized the paper.

Researchers administered synthetic testosterone or placebo to participants who previously disclosed their political affiliations, allowing researchers to track how the hormone affected participants’ politics.

“When weakly affiliated Democrats received additional testosterone, the strength of their party fell by 12 percent and they reported 45 percent warmer feelings towards Republican candidates for president,” explained the study.

“Before the testosterone treatment, we found that weakly affiliated Democrats had 19 percent higher basal testosterone than those who identified strongly with the party,” the study continues, reiterating the correlation between individuals with lower testoreone having left-wing political beliefs.

How many of the businesses offering testosterone boosters are Red-affiliated?


Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on May 21, 2022, 10:13:00 pm
Purely for entertainment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQxuNjd_yFU
Title: Re: Turanian diffusion
Post by: Wartorn on June 30, 2022, 12:17:22 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m61azrJnnIQ  ??? ::) :D
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 10, 2022, 12:49:29 am
The latest manifestation of our enemies' perennial obsession:

https://vdare.com/articles/breasts-buttocks-and-the-left-s-love-hate-relationship-with-science

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Francis was fascinated by the question of why human females have permanent breasts. This is true of no other species, which only have breasts while they are lactating, it being a waste of metabolic energy to maintain breasts when you are not.

In fact, Francis argues, breasts are something of a paradox. They are a “secondary sexual characteristic,” which males find very attractive, yet they signal infertility, insomuch as when a woman is lactating she is very unlikely to get pregnant.
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Francis makes the radical suggestion that permanent breasts may have been selected for precisely because they signal infertility:

A male primate who is not put off by, or even attracted to, breasts will stay with a female protecting her when she is in her most vulnerable state—during pregnancy and just after childbirth. For a female to select for such males improves her chances of successful reproduction. Moreover, in an environment where it is an advantage for males to stay with and support a female, a taste for breasts can keep the male investing in his own interest at the most critical time for support.
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Breasts are also indicator of how quickly a woman is aging, due to the way in which they droop.

In short, men who like breasts will stay with a woman during/after childbirth but dump her after she reaches menopause (and hence are no longer reproductively useful). Sounds familiarly despicable? Time to post this map again:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/6b/5d/e56b5d71d29f607f62751f2a7f7dd7a8.png)

We can already predict what our enemies are going to do next:

https://georgefrancis.substack.com/p/intelligence-and-the-evolution-of?s=r

(https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F050b12e4-bed6-4e6f-bef7-fc4b777d8c82_1220x764.png)

(https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fece6cec9-040f-4b49-b046-3ddbd0142b74_1156x764.png)

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(I have no idea why Georgians have such an extreme preference for boobs over ass!)

WTF.....

All I can say is: preference for low sexual dimorphism is so racially superior beyond anything they can imagine that they don't even bother to sample us!
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 16, 2022, 02:25:35 am
To this day our enemies still manage to surprise me with the depth of their sexism:

https://occidentaldissent.com/2022/07/14/axios-the-great-realignment/

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“male type careers” that are completely normal for male biology, but incompatible with motherhood. They are also abnormal as they usually require “alpha” type leadership skills and bossiness that are abhorrent, abnormal traits in a female. Like a sweet strawberry flavor is fine in a desert, but not in a savory meat stew; leadership command is necessary for the Alpha Male leading the tribe out of danger, but abhorrent in a female partner. There is nothing more unnatural than young men in the workplace having to take orders from some ****. It grates on you, I even felt it unnatural in elementary school taking orders from female teachers.

Why are bloodlines like these allowed to continue existing?
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 15, 2022, 05:02:20 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kari-lake-election-denier-arizona-173612605.html

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Kari Lake, Election Denier And Arizona GOP Candidate, Says Trump, DeSantis Have 'BDE'
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Kari Lake ― the Republican nominee for governor in Arizona who has embraced the far right’s lies about the 2020 presidential election ― went below the belt during a rally in Phoenix on Sunday, musing on stage that former President Donald Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) both have the quality known as “BDE.”
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“I’ll tell you what he’s got ― I don’t know if you’ve heard of this, but he’s got BDE,” she said of DeSantis. “Anybody know what that means? Ask your kids about it later.”

“I call it ‘Big DeSantis Energy,’” Lake added, although the term has traditionally been understood to mean “big dick energy.”

Lake went on to compare DeSantis to Trump, saying: “He’s got the same kind of BDE that President Trump has. And frankly, he has the same kind of BDE that we want all of our elected leaders to have.”

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/fjtOJUv7ue3.BSOaoq5UUA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQ3MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/R5e1rYpGvvulpvV6_12uSQ--~B/aD00MjA7dz02MzA7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_huffington_post_584/e3c6d32458a17df7d678c4470c3b0772)

More about Lake:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kari_Lake#Promotion_of_false_election_claims_and_alignment_with_Trump

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Lake has been a leading proponent of the false claim that the 2020 presidential election was "stolen" from Trump.[52] During her campaign, she aligned herself with Trump,[34] and made promotion of election lies central to her candidacy.[52][53][54]

Lake falsely claimed President Joe Biden did not receive 81 million votes and that Arizona (which was won by Biden in the 2020 presidential election) was actually won by Trump.[52][55] After the 2021 Maricopa County presidential ballot audit found no evidence of election fraud, she demanded the election be "decertified"—a legal impossibility,[52] as such a process does not exist.[56] She endorsed a false assertion by Trump spokeswoman Liz Harrington that Democrats use mail-in ballots to rig elections. Lake tweeted quotes made by Sidney Powell on Lou Dobbs Tonight falsely asserting there was a sweeping election fraud conspiracy. She has advocated imprisoning Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs (who is running for governor in 2022 as a Democrat) on baseless and unspecified allegations of criminality related to the 2020 election.[52] Lake also called for imprisoning journalists.[52] Lake repeatedly and falsely claimed that defendants arrested in connection with the January 6 attack were being "being held in prison without being charged."[57][58]
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 30, 2022, 02:18:46 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twJUyHeq4hs
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 21, 2022, 11:27:46 pm
What we would expect:

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1414784111

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Hormonal contraceptives (HCs) are believed to suppress biological processes associated with women’s preferences for cues of partner genetic fitness, cues that may be summarized by men’s facial attractiveness.
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there is some evidence that HC use weakens the hormonal processes that partially account for these preferences (8) (for exceptions, see refs. 9 and 10). Specifically, a few studies demonstrate that women using HCs show weaker cyclical shifts in preferences for cues of genetic fitness than do nonusers (11–14). Further, a few additional studies demonstrate that women using HCs demonstrate weaker overall preferences for cues of genetic fitness than do nonusers (15, 16). In one study, for example, women showed a weaker preference for facial masculinity when using HCs versus not (16).

In other words, HCs artificially mimics low fertility (duh!). Recall earlier research:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/272697

Of course, HCs cannot improve the gene pool, as while women on HCs may choose less masculine men, they will as a direct consequence of taking the HCs not be reproducing with these less masculine men, thereby rendering their improved choices inconsequential.

The only way to improve the gene pool is to identify the fraction of women who most strongly prefer masculine men, and prevent those women from reproducing first. In order that this identification be accurate, HCs must not be present to distort preferences.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 27, 2022, 05:23:35 pm
Anti-regime protestors in Iran worship high sexual dimorphism:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/time-different-because-iranian-women-181600476.html

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And I want readers to understand that the Iranian people, like the people of any country, are not the same as the government and system ruling over them. And in Iran's case, the difference is stark. You will find that Iranian women are be among the most passionate, feminine, fashionable, beautiful smelling women around the world. We care about all these things! And I can't wait for the day when we can freely express those parts of our identity in our own homeland.

Iranian women in reality are on average relatively low in sexual dimorphism:

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/9e2958c30a2cffacf6e593ef47a7d7d2/dbd829d56e1b76dd-97/s1280x1920/6d651083d95a2f7066e0eb5a8f4f024255f49de6.jpg)

They should take pride in this. But they don't because of their Eurocentrism.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 07, 2022, 11:17:48 pm
Very common among Eurocentrists:

https://us.yahoo.com/lifestyle/why-experts-saying-bigorexia-isnt-232700607.html

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What is bigorexia?

As the name "bigorexia" indicates, muscular body dysmorphic disorder causes those impacted to fixate on muscularity — and to consistently view their bodies as not strong enough. "Those with the condition become obsessed with becoming more muscular and are preoccupied with the fact that their body is too small, or is insufficiently muscular," explains Allison Chase, Ph.D., CEDS-S, a regional clinical director at the Eating Recovery Center.

The hallmark issue of bigorexia is an unbalanced drive to work out excessively, pushing the body way beyond its natural limits. This obsession can be traced back to a desire to increase muscle mass as quickly as possible, as well as trying to maintain unrealistic gains with increasingly difficult routines.
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There isn't one issue alone that causes bigorexia, experts say — but there are known mental health issues that may put an individual at greater risk for developing the condition.

"Bigorexia is likely caused by a combination of several factors including a genetic predisposition and psychological factors," says Chase. "These include perfectionism, depression or anxiety, low self-esteem and negative early life experiences."

The low self-esteem is typical of the psychologically colonized. But what about genetic predisposition?

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Many bigorexia sufferers would already be considered quite muscular and athletic by their peers, explains Mary Pardee, N.D., IFMCP, a naturopathic doctor and founder of a Los Angeles-based private functional medicine clinic.

This further supports my theory that the heritable part of Eurocentrism (ie. the part not caused by the colonial era) is Giant-worship by non-Giant Gentiles.

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clinical research has shown the disorder is increasingly common among younger men, particularly teenagers

All bigorexics should be prohibited from reproducing.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 15, 2022, 03:03:15 am
Fertility-obsessed parents:

https://us.yahoo.com/lifestyle/severed-****-spell-potato-9-201602748.html

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At the start of 1997, Kenny and Bobbi McCaughey were trying to add to their family with help from the ovulation-stimulating drug Metrodin (used for infertility). Bobbi soon found out she was pregnant with not one, or two, or three fetuses — or even four or five or six — but seven!

On November 19, 1997, the septuplets — four boys and three girls — were born prematurely ranging from two pounds, five ounces to three pounds, four ounces. Incredibly, all seven McCaughey septuplets survived...and turn 25 this month!

I accurately guessed the offspring's face shapes based on the above information alone:

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/CUJwnraMdHNaMzKIwZPsUw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTYzNjtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/buzzfeed_articles_778/dc9b92c792903e5ccd8bb4a56b58c553)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on November 19, 2022, 05:33:59 pm
Rightist wants parents to take their children to hooters:
https://youtu.be/BQGwL-m0VO0

Ignore False Leftist Cenk "PUA" Uyghur, who says Adams is not "really" an alpha male.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: guest78 on November 19, 2022, 07:10:47 pm
Nick Adams is also a dual citizen!
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Adams immigrated to the United States in 2012.[7] He said that he immigrated to America because "I love guns, hot dogs, chicken fried steak, barbecue, cheerleaders, American football, small town parades, beauty pageants, pick-up trucks, muscle cars and 16-lane freeways lined with supersized American flags." He has said that since he held conservative views that he had to wait nearly five years to acquire citizenship because of discrimination by the Obama administration. Adams works as a motivational speaker and conservative activist. He has said that his fascination of the American political system lead him to promoting American ideals.[6] Then-Texas Governor Rick Perry crowned Adams an "honorary Texan" prior to a speech in 2013.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Adams_(commentator)

Adams is of course not "promoting American ideals" either, but western ideals!



Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on November 19, 2022, 08:06:40 pm
"What is it with Australians talking about American politics?" TYT

I've noticed this as well. Rightists from various "White" countries are so eager to comment on American politics. Examples: Stephen Molyneux (Canadian), Paul Joseph Watson (British), Nick Adams (Australian), Mark Steyn (Canadian)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 01, 2022, 07:04:27 pm
Cawthorn again (and terrible False Left commentary from TYT):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3E_A04470c
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: guest78 on December 01, 2022, 07:12:12 pm
TYT is absolute false-leftist garbage!
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: guest90 on December 03, 2022, 11:27:36 am
Reading the study on hormonal contraceptives making females attracted to less masculine males reminded me about the change in behaviour of the YouTuber Contrapoints. She’s a male to female trans person who in the last few years has started taking hormonal replacement therapy.  Now prior to medically transitioning, she was focused on debunking rightest bs. She also has an oval face and low body mass, indicating low testosterone. But since using HRT, meaning her body is receiving high amounts of estrogen, her behaviour has done a complete 180. She’s become anti-woke, arguing against cancel culture, attacking leftists over rightists. How the estrogen has actually caused this change I couldn’t say, especially given her ectomorphic appearance, but I find it too much of a coincidence to put it down to anything else.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 03, 2022, 01:06:19 pm
"How the estrogen has actually caused this change I couldn’t say, especially given her ectomorphic appearance"

Ectomorphs tend to produce low estrogen themselves, but are not necessarily less affected by the effects of estrogen. Since the estrogen you are talking about was externally sourced, there is no reason to expect ectomorphy to offset its effects. If anything, as with drugs in general, a given quantity introduced to someone with lower body mass is likely to have a stronger effect than the same quantity introduced to someone with higher body mass. Therefore, given the positive correlation between ectomorphy and low body mass (the latter which indeed you also stated Contrapoints has), we should if anything expect the estrogen she has been receiving to have a greater effect than it would have had on a less ectomorphic or otherwise higher body mass person of otherwise similar physiology.

HRT is Western. Avoid it. Those who want to transition should do it the non-Western way (ie. removal of the sexual dimorphism you don't want only; no adding of new sexual dimorphism)!
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 10, 2022, 11:34:22 pm
Our enemies' rehash their favourite topic yet again:

https://vdare.com/articles/as-you-d-expect-leftist-men-are-insecure-about-their-masculinity-result-they-support-aggressive-politicians-and-policies

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In 2017, the “Soy Boy” meme went viral. The Soy Boy was a feminine and physically weak man, with the idea taken from the belief that products containing soy increased estrogen levels and, so, made men more effeminate. In that left-wing males were clearly more likely to virtue-signal with their food via being vegetarian and even vegan, “Soy Boy” soon became a term that was deployed against left-wing men [‘Soy boys’ is the far-right’s newest favorite insult, By Jay Hathaway, Daily Dot, October 27, 2017].

I always took it as a compliment:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2122/5313/files/almond-milk-water-use_large.jpg?v=1581744637)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybean#History

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Soybeans were a crucial crop in East Asia long before written records began.[71] The origin of soy bean cultivation remains scientifically debated. The closest living relative of the soybean is Glycine soja (previously called G. ussuriensis), a legume native to central China.[72] There is evidence for soybean domestication between 7000 and 6600 BC in China, between 5000 and 3000 BC in Japan and 1000 BC in Korea.[73]
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Prior to fermented products such as fermented black soybeans (douchi), jiang (Chinese miso), soy sauce, tempeh, nattō, and miso, soy was considered sacred for its beneficial effects in crop rotation, and it was eaten by itself, and as bean curd and soy milk.
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The earliest documented evidence for the use of Glycine of any kind comes from charred plant remains of wild soybean recovered from Jiahu in Henan province China, a Neolithic site occupied between 9000 and 7800 calendar years ago (cal bp).[73] An abundance of archeological charred soybean specimens have been found centered around this region.[76]

According to the ancient Chinese myth, in 2853 BC, the legendary Emperor Shennong of China proclaimed that five plants were sacred: soybeans, rice, wheat, barley, and millet.[77] Early Chinese records mention that soybeans were a gift from the region of Yangtze River delta and Southeast China.[78]

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/yandi-vs-huangdi-myth-confirmed/

Back to enemy article:

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Leftist men are shorter, less muscular, and weaker in the upper body than conservatives:

    Height, Income and Voting, By R. Arunachalam and S. Watson, British Journal of Political Science, 2018

    The Ancestral Logic of Politics: Upper Body Strength Regulates Men’s Assertion of Self-Interest Over Economic Redistribution, By M.B. Petersen, D. Sznycer, A. Sell et al., Psychological Science, 2013

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-political-science/article/height-income-and-voting/2B6875BFB8B956963D1DBBD510A581CF

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this article finds that taller individuals are more likely to support the Conservative Party, support conservative policies and vote Conservative; a one-inch increase in height increases support for Conservatives by 0.6 per cent.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797612466415

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men with greater upper-body strength more strongly endorsed the self-beneficial position
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: SirGalahad on December 11, 2022, 01:21:23 am
The link between soy and estrogen is almost certainly bullshit anyways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8dfiDeJeDU

Sources provided in the description of the video. Not that the video even really needed sources. Riddle for the hypothetical alt-right macho man: Soy contains phytoestrogen, an entirely separate substance from mammalian estrogen, found only in plants. Dairy milk contains ACTUAL estrogen straight from a female cow's breasts. Following your own logic, which food item do you think is being incorrectly stereotyped here? Maybe lay off the daily dairy if you're so concerned about being feminized. This only proves what we already knew: people who prefer soy over red meat and dairy aren't necessarily more feminine, but less masculine
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: guest78 on December 11, 2022, 04:25:04 am
Most oyster mushrooms, and many mushrooms in general, absolutely love growing on soy hulls too! Imagine how efficient a world of soy milk drinkers who use the waste of soy milk production to grow amazing oyster mushrooms would be! When you start seeing the world by these facts you quickly realize how ridiculous, poisonous, and wasteful, human-beings truly are!
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on February 19, 2023, 09:27:24 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ3PNQnXoAAIjIj?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on July 06, 2023, 09:59:31 pm
Good comic ridiculing False Let's denial of biological basis of sexual dimorphism preferences:
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/270/621/fda.jpg)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on July 06, 2023, 10:26:31 pm
My current theory is that high-sexual-dimorphism women are more likely than low-sexual-dimorphism women to heritably prefer high-sexual-dimorphism men. But when high-sexual-dimorphism women outnumber low-sexual-dimorphism women, high-sexual-dimorphism men will be more popular among women overall. This effect then kicks in:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/mate-choice-copying/

whereupon the low-sexual-dimorphism women, observing the popularity of the high-sexual-dimorphism men, themselves begin to prefer high-sexual-dimorphism men even if they previously did not.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on July 16, 2023, 03:34:39 pm
(https://incels.wiki/images/0/07/Betabux2.png)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on August 02, 2023, 11:07:51 pm
Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on August 02, 2023, 11:11:02 pm
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Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 16, 2023, 02:48:17 am
Purely for entertainment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikJ4sdtV1M4
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on August 17, 2023, 02:46:14 am
Shapiro find:

(https://incels.is/attachments/1689546480335-png.810494/)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on August 25, 2023, 08:48:08 pm
Rightist creates parody of "Rich Men North of Richmond" bashing trans people:
https://twitter.com/ryanharkness_/status/1694376047934922920

Note the constant reference to genitalia and sexual dimorphism.

Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 02, 2023, 08:20:48 pm
Larger gap = higher sexual dimorphism:

(https://incels.is/attachments/1676799543308-png.709266/)

Homework: which column should be prohibited from reproducing first?

Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 12, 2023, 07:49:42 pm
Our enemies' latest neurosis:

https://incels.is/threads/men-who-sit-cross-legged-are-****-gay.471689/

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What man sits cross legged ? No man.
Only **** do that. I see increasingly more guys using this position for sitting.
I always despised this way of sitting and my balls are luckily too big to be able to sit cross legged.

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true.
but this should be common knowledge. never cross your legs as a man.

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Always sit with your legs as widely spread as possible.
It makes women **** and feminists seethe.

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my **** is too big so i physically can not sit in such a way

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I have no idea how some guys can cross their legs while sitting. It **** hurts my balls to do that.

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They have no or very small balls

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I don't know any guy that does this. Wouldn't your balls and dick get crushed?

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There is no single man on earth that actually crosses his legs like a foid. You would crush your balls

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I thought it actually is a way that gay men communicate to eachother that they are in fact gay.

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I hate the fags who sit like that, only manginas are able to sit like that cause they have no testicles

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It's definitely gay

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If you can sit cross legged it means you're a dickcel

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(https://incels.is/attachments/1694547402586-png.872222/)

Presumably the following is the enemy-approved way to sit:

(https://trueleft.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.kremlin.ru%2Fmedia%2Fevents%2Fphotos%2Fbig2x%2FklM6hrow5JZOZt3Yv8wx44tqieAZf252.jpg&hash=b5176410db4f6c5c0106e89186ff9b59e2d03d3c)

(https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/07/GPOMN3_5956.jpg)

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-anti-relativism/msg18897/#msg18897

Related:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/historian-explains-why-it-is-wrong-to-compare-putin-directly-to-hitler/msg16176/#msg16176
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 16, 2023, 06:45:04 pm
https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/diet/body-confidence/why-your-curves-make-you-smart/news-story/4713860983077a9589486f145818419f

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Big-hipped women have higher IQs, a longer life expectancy and smarter kids, according to a growing body of research. On top of that, men find curvy women more attractive, say a lot of other studies.
...
During the study, researchers at the universities of Pittsburgh and California found even the offspring of curvy women were smarter.

The reason for the higher IQ? They suggest it is connected to the omega-3 fatty acids stored in the extra fat cells on the hips and thighs of curvy women.

These omega-3 fatty acids come into play again to help create brainier babies. In the last trimester, when the baby's brain is growing at a rate of knots, it is calling on this hip fat to fuel the energy needs. After the birth, the mother's body uses the hip fat again to create the energy required for breastfeeding.
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being curvy is also more attractive to the opposite sex, it seems. One of the most recent studies, out of the University of Texas last year, claims men prefer curvy women for "casual relationships".

In other words, the offspring of more masculine men and more feminine women are more likely to become machinists. All part of Yahweh's plan.

(See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/gentilism/msg2646/#msg2646

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-bones/msg1404/#msg1404 )

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While researching the links between hip fat and intelligence, Dr Lassek also found men were more attracted to women with low hip-to-waist ratios. His theory is men are biologically programmed to seek out women who can give them the most intelligent offspring.

This is Yahweh's plan!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/proof-yahweh's-world-is-evil-and-a-prison-for-the-truly-good!/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/progressive-yahwism/

Only a National Socialist state prohibiting curvy women and men who prefer curvy women from reproducing can defeat Yahweh's plan.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on September 21, 2023, 05:47:59 pm
Informative find by our enemies:

https://incels.is/threads/historypill-daughter-of-byzantine-emperor-describes-crusader-giga-chad-bohemund-of-taranto.164569/

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Crusaders were moggers. If you read the accounts of Anna Komnene, daughter of Byzantine emperor Alexios I., and her physical descriptions of the crusaders, you can clearly see that the crusaders mogged the Byzantines from Adrianople to Antioch. She was definitely attracted to them even though she considered them barbarians. If anything that just added to the halo effect because they were dark triad Nordic Germanic Chads.

This is how she described the tall GIGA-Chad Nordic crusader leader Bohemund of Taranto. She literally says that such mogger was never before seen in the land of the Romans (Byzantines), admitting that he mogged the entire empire. Bohumend was a Norman and descendant of Viking moggers. He was one of the tallest men of his age, in fact I think he was originally named Mark but people started to call him Bohemund after a legendary giant named Bohumend.

Now the man was such as, to put it briefly, had never before been seen in the land of the Romans, be he either of the barbarians or of the Greeks (for he was a marvel for the eyes to behold, and his reputation was terrifying). Let me describe the barbarian’s appearance more particularly—he was so tall in stature that he overtopped the tallest by nearly one cubit, narrow in the waist and loins, with broad shoulders and a deep chest and powerful arms. And in the whole build of the body he was neither too slender nor over-weighted with flesh, but perfectly proportioned and, one might say, built in conformity with the canon of Polycleitus. He had powerful hands and stood firmly on his feet, and his neck and back were well compacted. An accurate observer would notice that he stooped slightly, but this was not from any weakness of the vertebræ of his spine but he had probably had this posture slightly from birth. His skin all over his body was very white, and in his face the white was tempered with red. His hair was yellowish, but did not hang down to his waist like that of the other barbarians; for the man was not inordinately vain of his hair, but had it cut short to the ears. Whether his beard was reddish, or any other colour I cannot say, for the razor had passed over it very closely and left a surface smoother than chalk, most likely it too was reddish. His blue eyes indicated both a high spirit and dignity; and his nose and nostrils breathed in the air freely; his chest corresponded to his nostrils and by his nostrils … the breadth of his chest. For by his nostrils nature had given free passage for the high spirit which bubbled up from his heart. A certain charm hung about this man but was partly marred by a general air of the horrible. For in the whole of his body the entire man shewed implacable and savage both in his size and glance, methinks, and even his laughter sounded to others like snorting. He was so made in mind and body that both courage and passion reared their crests within him and both inclined to war.

Accurate enemy comment:

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Looking through the looks lens so much of history makes sense. Its all about tall white buff guys literally bullying everyone else
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on October 28, 2023, 12:54:28 am
No commentary required:

https://incels.is/threads/finnish-pm-brutally-mogged.539188/

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(https://incels.is/attachments/32bb92f235cc9bb5-jpg.919598/)

Brutally JBW- and tittymogged. Even this pic proves that there is JBW and then actual JBW. Like whites among whites

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/face-shapes-and-preferences/msg1756/#msg1756
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on November 11, 2023, 02:51:19 am
Our enemies beginning to understand us:

https://incels.is/threads/left-wing-authoritarians-are-averse-to-masculine-looking-men.543814/

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An extensive evolutionary history has led humans to develop some fairly accurate first impressions of other people from their appearance. Although these inferences could be uncomfortable to some perceivers, an acuity to such kernels of truth could have a benefit to the perceiver.
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One physical characteristic of a person that reliably connotes information about one’s physical abilities is sexual dimorphism. Dimorphism refers to the extent to which men appear masculine and women appear feminine through facial and bodily features connoting specific hormonal activities. Testosterone masculinizes facial structures, with men’s faces being particularly wider than women’s, in addition to fostering a “stronger” jawline.
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implicit connections between masculinization and conservatism could implicate masculinized men as presenting a heuristic threat to non-conservatives in their attainment of group goals. One such group that has received considerable interest over the past decade relevant to this potential threat judgment is left-wing authoritarianism (LWA), a personality trait indicating the extent to which an individual is interested in disrupting present social hierarchies in favor of one that could better satisfy the goals of left-wing political ideas. In the case of left-wing authoritarians, such goals could include the implementation of redistributive policies as replacements for social policies that emphasize competitive resource acquisition and favor formidable men.
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The data indicated a general pattern of misandry as a function of heightened LWA, but the magnitude of effects was much larger masculinized male faces. In other words, left-wing authoritarians disliked masculine men.

Contrast Lupin's face shape, body shape and voice with the villain's (0:25):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYGfRDmmba8

Bonus Lupin voice sampler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BzorHeEBk0
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 08, 2023, 08:53:55 pm
https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a30026303/rough-sex-psychology/

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There's Science That Explains Why Women Fantasize About Rough Sex
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Most people—regardless of gender and sexual orientation—appear to have been turned on by the idea at some point.

Most people are racially inferior.

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So why is rough sex arousing to so many people, and especially to women?

Because they are racially inferior.

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The authors of this study interpret these results through the same evolutionary lens: When men perceive a risk that their female partner has had sex with someone else, this triggers sperm competition. In other words, it leads men to engage in sexual behaviors—like deep and vigorous thrusting—aimed at displacing any semen that may have been deposited by rival men so that their own sperm have a better shot at fertilization.

See?

So, what (besides having rougher sex than your rivals) helps to win sperm competition? Most obviously, being able to deploy more sperm than your rivals. More masculine men will tend to beat less masculine men in sperm competition. This is what more feminine women fantasize about happening. In other words, high sexual dimorphism evolves in societies where winning sperm competition is important, whereas low sexual dimorphism evolves in societies where sperm competition is not a thing.

https://www.8asians.com/2012/01/25/do-asians-have-the-smallest-testicle/

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My theory is that white men’s testicles are the largest, which explains why they also produce the most sperm.
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the size was twofold lower in two Chinese samples compared with a Danish sample. Differences in body size make only a slight contribution to these values.” (Diamond, JM (1986)
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Race differences in testicle size have also been measured (Asians = 9 grams, Europeans = 21 g). This is not just because Europeans have a slightly larger body size. The difference is too large. A 1989 article in Nature, the leading British science magazine, said that the difference in testicle size could mean that Whites make two times as many sperm per day as do Orientals.
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Researches found “marked differences among samples, adult male Danes have testes that are more than twice the size of their Chinese equivalents, for example.” This range is far beyond what average racial differences in body size would predict Various estimates conclude that Cauacsians produce about twice the number of spermatozoa per day than Chinese (185-235 X 10 to the 6 power compared with 84 X 10 to the 6 power)

To put this in perspective, a typically proportioned Chinese man would have to be over 3.5m tall to have merely the same absolute testicle size as a typically proportioned Danish man. This is how inferior Danish genes are.

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Men’s testes are substantially larger, relative to body size, than those of gorillas, a species in which males are polygynous but females mate monogamously so that “sperm competition” within the female reproductive tract is absent.

“We think it likely that testes size differences among human races have been adaptive in their own right — different responses to different mating behavior,” the two scientists write. They make reference to a study of the testes sizes of some Chinese and some Danes. The Danes’ testes, even when body size differences are taken into consideration, are twice the size of the Chinese subjects’.
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“It could be that for generations the Chinese lived in a society that was sexually secure, while over the same time the Danes lived in a ****-and-pillage and violence kind of society,” Prof. May suggested in an interview.
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Furthermore, diet and environmental factors would have to be factored in before arriving at any solid conclusion regarding the relationship between sexual monogamy and genital anatomy. For example, many Asian diets include large quantities of soy products, while many Western people consume large quantities of beef

Gorillas are also herbivorous.

Homework: which humans should be prohibited from reproducing first? (Hint: the ones least similar to gorillas. And no, I'm not just talking about testicle size. For example, gorillas do not invent machines. Who invents the most machines?)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 12, 2023, 08:56:13 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2020/jan/13/why-is-gwyneth-paltrow-selling-a-candle-that-smells-like-her-****-goop

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Gwyneth has made a candle called This Smells Like My **** for her website, Goop. And, of course, it has sold out

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/835bd125d03a8c4abcd6a5f53d7c1da551100766/0_0_5000_3000/master/5000.jpg?width=620&dpr=2&s=none)

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg11113/#msg11113
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on December 16, 2023, 03:42:25 pm
Continuing from:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg24370/#msg24370

more on rough sex:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/more-teens-having-rough-sex-heres-why-230509457.html

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Choking, smothering, slapping: More teens are having rough sex. Here’s why.
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For sexual activities that occur between women and men, the woman is nearly always the person on the receiving end of rough sex, and the man is nearly always the person doing the choking or slapping or smothering.
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In my research, I’ve found that many young people think that sex is supposed to be rough.
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Some young men worry they won’t be viewed as masculine if they don’t choke or slap their partner.

Who would even want to be viewed as masculine? (Answer: the racially inferior.)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on January 09, 2024, 10:34:35 pm
For once I agree with this Hellenist guy:
https://twitter.com/The_Hellenist/status/1599765542293864448
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The Hellenist ☀️
@The_Hellenist
That large penises are seen as desirable is just another symptom of western degeneration.  Large penises are a sign of low intelligence and savage genetics.  Small penises indicate high intelligence and aristocratic blood.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjJlSCuUcAAzCUt?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 10, 2024, 02:25:54 am
The Hellenist otherwise likes high sexual dimorphism:

https://twitter.com/The_Hellenist/status/1585798506324774912

https://twitter.com/The_Hellenist/status/1697051577180131474

and dislikes neoteny:

https://twitter.com/The_Hellenist/status/1714627388577927666

In any case, he is our enemy:

https://twitter.com/The_Hellenist/status/1674221144801681408

https://twitter.com/The_Hellenist/status/1713359032449437842

https://twitter.com/The_Hellenist/status/1681468904630018051

https://twitter.com/The_Hellenist/status/1657188916246585347

https://twitter.com/The_Hellenist/status/1572390154194526208
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on January 10, 2024, 08:11:50 am
I don't understand how such contradictory views on sexual dimorphism are possible. Any theories?
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 10, 2024, 12:59:35 pm
He believes sex is for reproduction, and small penises can impregnate just as effectively as large ones, but consume less energy, thus leaving more energy for sperm production. I would agree that a man with a smaller **** who produces more sperm is more masculine than a man with a larger **** who produces less sperm*. I would also definitely expect the former to be more likely to have Homo Hubris traits. I would without question try to eliminate the former's bloodline first.

Thus his views are not contradictory, but an optimization of his Homo Hubris values.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on January 13, 2024, 10:14:58 pm
It is worth noting that all the "great" conquerors in history that Homo Hubris types like to gloat about were "manlets". Genghis Khan was 5'6", Alexander was 5'5", Napoleon was 5'7", Stalin was 5'5", Putin is 5'7", etc. I would theorize that this height obsession (much like d!ck size obsession) is primarily a product of Giant blood memory.

Extra height = extra energy, which is not necessarily an advantage in the age of agriculture, which allows formations of large divisions of infantrymen. Even if one argues that those infantrymen would benefit from size and strength, their commanders would purely be selected on intelligence, in which case diverting energy for extra bone/muscle mass or your d!ck is much less useful than using it for your brain.

I guess this is a "whitepill" for "manlets" like me, but on the other hand, we have seen the consequences of selecting for intelligence, which produces ruthless Homo Hubris machinists that can create the deadliest weapons known to mankind. In this case, even high intelligence won't save Aryans as we do not have the capacity to gain an advantage by building superior machinery to defeat our enemies. The only solution is for the high-intelligence Aryans to use the low-intelligence non-Aryans as cannon fodder against the Homo Hubris.

The downside is that Aryanists will have to take a temporary hit in their spiritual level to collaborate with these non-Aryans.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 13, 2024, 11:03:33 pm
""manlets""

I dislike this term as it implies that men should dislike being short but women need not dislike being short. Our view is that to whatever extent being short is bad (or good), it should be considered bad (or good) for both men and women.

""whitepill""

I wish you wouldn't use incel-speak unnecessarily.

"I would theorize that this height obsession (much like d!ck size obsession) is primarily a product of Giant blood memory."

I'm not sure about this. Those most obsessed with height seem to be mostly those who are short themselves!
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on January 13, 2024, 11:15:02 pm
"Our view is that to whatever extent being short is bad (or good), it should be considered bad (or good) for both men and women."
I agree with this view, but I think those who use "manlet" would not disagree either. "Manlet" merely implies that short men are not "full" men (hence the "-let" suffix). I have seen "womanlet" used similarly for women.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on January 14, 2024, 01:01:32 am
"I have seen "womanlet" used similarly for women."

But much more rarely. In particular, I have not seen women describe themselves as "womanlets", whereas men who describe themselves as "manlets" are everywhere these days. That gendered terms are used in the first place is what enables this disparity. If a single non-gendered term were used to refer to short people irrespective of gender, there would not be this problem.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on February 17, 2024, 01:05:34 pm
https://twitter.com/growing_india1/status/1647141435123159040?t=0lUS0G-5lftOdCSEt2xPnw&s=19
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Women are more selfless than men in love ❤️

A woman can love a man for years without having sex with him⭐️

Tell a man to love a women for 5 years
and be committed to her

(without having sex or any physical intimacy)

⭐️He will either cheat or breakup with her in 95 % cases⭐️

If we consider that women on average are more neotenous than men, this is likely true.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 17, 2024, 05:06:26 pm
Supposing it is neoteny that is causing this, then we should expect the fraction of men who can love a woman for years without sex to be the more neotenous fraction. This sounds plausible enough.

But are the women who can love a man for years without sex the more neotenous fraction of women?
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on February 17, 2024, 06:21:57 pm
I would assume. Would you disagree?
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 17, 2024, 07:37:12 pm
The more neotenous men produce less sperm, therefore would be more inclined to save it up. The absence of a corresponding mechanism in women leaves the picture much less clear.

I would imagine that the less neotenous women are more likely to view the man as a reproductive partner. But if so, then one possible reason why they would be more likely to wait for him without cheating is in order to protect their eggs from telegony by other men:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/telegony/

Such women would be willing to wait for the man they have in mind without cheating even though they know the man is cheating on them!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/mate-choice-copying/

In contrast, I expect that the more neotenous women would only be willing to wait for a man without cheating so long as they are sure the man is also not cheating. These are the women who are thinking purely in romantic (as opposed to reproductive) terms.

But for the purpose of this model we are starting off (see original tweet) with the assumption that most men (95% according to the original tweet) would cheat. Thus the women who would continue to wait without cheating themselves could well mostly belong to the former (less neotenous) group, since the latter (more neotenous) group probably already gave up waiting as soon as they started suspecting the men of cheating. Do you see what I mean?
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on February 17, 2024, 08:13:33 pm
This makes sense. This is the explanation behind less neotenous women trying to get Chad to commit to them.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 20, 2024, 04:42:50 pm
LOL:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WomensHealth/comments/1ae8p80/husband_bruised_my_cervix_and_uterus_now_i_have/
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on February 26, 2024, 09:30:36 pm
You can't make this **** up:

https://www.reddit.com/r/shortguys/comments/1aywq7w/ai_has_trouble_generating_images_of_short_men/

(Also notice that only "whites" are pictured.....)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on March 05, 2024, 05:46:29 am
https://twitter.com/CarmineSabia/status/1764422104483602470?t=H8coiEcrInqE64JFNrEJVg&s=19
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You can have the fat women, transgenders and circus freaks you want in all the ads and magazines you want.

But Sydney Sweeney just proved that for 200,000 years in a row men still prefer blondes with racks.

*Eurocentrist men
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 05, 2024, 03:26:12 pm
Note tweeter:

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Carmine Sabia
@CarmineSabia
🇺🇸 🇮🇱 Christian, conservative, Journalist / Editor, Radio, TV, Pundit, Yankees fan, NRA member, Israel supporter.

He also looks like what we would expect:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1761446260572106752/MBx6rUho_400x400.jpg)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on March 05, 2024, 05:59:47 pm
Did someone say Oedipus complex?:
https://twitter.com/ShitpostGate/status/1764721989057417459?t=I3fPJERYykp5d5nZT_hOSw&s=19
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH2NS16XsAAWqPu?format=jpg&name=large)

I theorize that preference for high sexual dimorphism itself is a product of the Oedipus complex.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 05, 2024, 06:47:54 pm
"I theorize that preference for high sexual dimorphism itself is a product of the Oedipus complex."

I disagree. Men who like feminine women are seeking maximum fertility, whereas MILFs are already declining in fertility.

Also, accusing our enemies of having Oedipus complex as a way to attack them is not recommended, since it would imply that Oedipus complex is a sign of inferiority, when in fact it is Original Nobility operating on incomplete information. Those who, given the same incomplete information, nevertheless do not have Oedipus complex are the inferior ones by our standards.

Oedipus is a stepping stone to Kronos:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus

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In an ancient myth recorded by Hesiod's Theogony, Cronus envied the power of his father, Uranus, the ruler of the universe. Uranus drew the enmity of Cronus's mother, Gaia, when he hid the gigantic youngest children of Gaia, the hundred-handed Hecatoncheires and one-eyed Cyclopes, in Tartarus, so that they would not see the light. Gaia created a great stone sickle and gathered together Cronus and his brothers to persuade them to castrate Uranus.[4]

Only Cronus was willing to do the deed, so Gaia gave him the sickle and placed him in ambush.[5] When Uranus met with Gaia, Cronus attacked him with the sickle, castrating him and casting his testicles into the sea.
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The period in which Cronus ruled was called the Golden Age, as the people of the time had no need for laws or rules; everyone did the right thing, and immorality was absent.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: SirGalahad on March 05, 2024, 08:45:55 pm
Can you elaborate on what you mean? Attraction towards your mother (or more commonly, people who remind you of your mother), seems counterintuitive to original nobility. Even if we remove the attraction aspect and treat it as simply someone who prefers their mother to their father. Wouldn’t someone with sufficient original nobility dislike their father AND mother equally, unless their mother was forced to conceive against her will? Even the mythological Kronos narrative seems more like Kronos went soft by sparing and even fighting on behalf of his mother
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 05, 2024, 11:46:53 pm
"Attraction towards your mother (or more commonly, people who remind you of your mother), seems counterintuitive to original nobility."

Prior to learning language and getting the facts, we honestly did not know that our mother chose to conceive us. Therefore it is expected that we at that stage confuse pre-birth conditions (inside womb) with pre-material conditions, and thus confuse our mother with God, and confuse leaving the womb with becoming trapped in the material world. Original Nobility then causes us to want to return to pre-birth conditions, which in practice manifests as idealizing a life in which no one exists except oneself and our mother (as an approximation to the first-person perspective from inside the womb). It is the inferior who, being more interested in exploring the outside world, who lack this idealization.

"wouldn’t someone with sufficient original nobility dislike their father AND mother equally"

Yes, after we get the facts.

"unless their mother was forced to conceive against her will?"

Well spotted. In such cases she is genuinely a fellow victim.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 06, 2024, 02:38:56 pm
It is also worth adding that, Oedipus complex structurally suffices to defeat Yahweh's plan if continuously practiced by everyone for merely a few generations of males. If Generation N have offspring Generation N+1, but all the males from N+1 insist on having sex only with the females from Generation N (their mothers), and they have offspring Generation N+2, and again all the males from N+2 insist on having sex only with the females from Generation N again (their mothers), and so on, soon there will be no subsequent generations because the females from Generation N will have run out of eggs, while all the eggs carried by the females from Generations N+n will remain unused.

Indeed this is probably the root reason why Yahweh-worshippers have a negative opinion towards Oedipus complex.

What keeps Yahweh's plan going is when males keep seeking the most fertile females for sex. In doing so, these males are repeating what their fathers once did. Thus the males who strive to emulate their fathers are the ones who serve Yahweh (and hence who will be rewarded with demographic dominance by natural selection). Thus these are the males who must first be prohibited from reproducing under National Socialism.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on March 06, 2024, 10:26:53 pm
In any case, mother worship > father worship. In my observation, almost all of the vegan women who had relationships with non vegan men themselves had vegan mothers and non vegan fathers (and their subhuman fathers also fed them meat btw, which the daughters relished and only later ended up regretting).

This is also another way to detect potential non-Aryan vegan women: gather details about their father. Unfortunately, this is impossible to do in the modern age. Back in the old days, we could simply gather details about a girl using her social circle and immediate relatives. This is why I am scared about entering into a relationship with vegan women. However, if they really are non-Aryan, they would probably reject me to begin with, so it all works out. But there is also the possibility they are rejecting me for other reasons (e.g. I am not Aryan looking enough?)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 06, 2024, 11:04:33 pm
While on the subject:

https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/1934/09/hitler-oedipus-complex

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Hitler was brought up in a bitterly unhappy home. He loved his mother and hated his father, and any modern psychologist will tell you what that means. The mother was a saint, the father a brute, as Hitler saw them, and he identified himself with the former in opposition to the latter. He developed what is known today as the Oedipus Complex; jealousy of his father which led him to train his own character on as different lines as he possibly could—even going to extremes in the opposite direction.

Witness Hitler today. He is a passionate ascetic. He neither drinks nor smokes. So vigorously does he condemn tobacco that he refuses, even in the open air, to allow anyone to smoke near him. He eats very little meat. He weeps easily. He has, so far as one can judge, no love life at all. At 45 he is a bachelor, and is likely to remain so, probably because he cannot forget his mother-image, because his mother was the one woman of importance in his life.
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His father was radically different in character. Old Alois Hitler was heavy, besotted, given to indulgence; he was born illegitimate; his character was overbearing and truculent; he married three times and he died over a bottle of wine in a public house.
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On the tombstone, as is common in Austria, is a small photograph of the dead man. So this is Hitler’s father! A skull big and round and hairless like a melon; small, sharp, wicked little eyes; a pair of bicycle-handle mustaches, and a heavy, dominant, tyrant’s chin, jutting out like the bow of a cruiser. The mother’s picture we saw later in a relative’s house: a tall woman, with a narrow, sensitive face and sunken cheek-bones; the yellow braids of hair now a grey fluff over the back of the neck; large, luminous, beautiful eyes.
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Adolf was a dreamy, moonstruck boy. He never had a nickname, like the other boys, nor a sweetheart, nor any comrade but Max. He was pale and nervous, greatly given to reading books of history.
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Alois was terribly strict with Adolf. He was worried about the boy’s dreaminess. When Adolf was about 6 the mother began to develop cancer; it took her almost 10 years to die. Adolf watched her day by day, torn by her pain, bitter at a universe which could inflict such suffering, and resentful at the behavior of his insensitive father.
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He tried at first to retreat into dreams, to compensate for the unhappiness of his actual life by creating an imaginary world of happiness and success. His will to be utterly different from his father made him wish to be an artist. He was overcome by his yearnings to fulfill the great historical mission that life, in the person of his mother, promised him.

Contrast with:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mary-trump-book-donald-narcissist-dangerous/

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Fred Trump "perverted his son's perception of the world and damaged his ability to live in it," she writes, adding that she believes the president is still seeking his deceased father's approval to this day.

"Every one of Donald's transgressions became an audition for his father's favor, as if he were saying, 'See, dad, I'm the tough one. I'm the killer,'"
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on March 06, 2024, 11:50:37 pm
In my case, I believe I had somewhat both Aryan parents. My dad is a strict vegetarian (no eggs either) and a teetoaler. He would always stress the importance of things like not killing insects. My mother is also a vegetarian. My mother also avoids wearing silk due to my father's insistence.

So I would say I have my sympathies for both parents.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 07, 2024, 12:47:58 pm
In other news:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/former-us-president-donald-trump-jealous-of-son-barrons-height-new-book-claims-101698735066019.html
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on March 16, 2024, 10:00:42 pm
Facepalm:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIx2RKJWQAA1pa5?format=jpg&name=small)

The irony is, these women, who appear low in sexual dimorphism, could just as well be ridiculed for having "small t!ts" and being flat-chested. But perhaps they actually do envy large breasted women, or they are merely psychologically colonized so they are using such stupid insults (remember when we had a Swastika wearing Aryanist use a small dick insult, FFS?!).
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: 90sRetroFan on March 16, 2024, 10:12:25 pm
"psychologically colonized"

This is not an applicable term for "whites".

Why not go for the simplest explanation? They consider big dicks superior, period. (Look at their face shapes!)
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on March 16, 2024, 10:17:09 pm
So it appears "White" women who get involved in BLM activism merely want to satisfy some weird BBC **** fetish.
Title: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
Post by: rp on March 19, 2024, 12:29:01 am
In my case, I believe I had somewhat both Aryan parents. My dad is a strict vegetarian (no eggs either) and a teetoaler. He would always stress the importance of things like not killing insects. My mother is also a vegetarian. My mother also avoids wearing silk due to my father's insistence.

So I would say I have my sympathies for both parents.

This is why I cried when I moved out by myself for the first time. My parents are not perfect, but they are the closest "good" people I know in real life. I admit I have shared a somewhat "Oedipus" bond with my mother when I was a child, and although as I got older I realized she was not perfect, I still respected her as she always cooked me food and cared for me when I was ill. She also cried with me one time (it was genuine) when I cried after falling ill and being in extreme pain (this was only 3 years ago, mind you). And a lot of her criticisms of me were justified honestly, as I was being very lazy, not contributing to household chores and just browsing the internet/m@sturbating (I used it as a drug to cope with being unable to stop the initiated violence occuring in the world everyday). As for my father, he is the closest I have to a role model. Aside from treatment of non humans, he always stressed the importance of things like honesty, humility, etc. and he himself exhibited this behavior in his interactions with others. When I fell ill for the first time alone, I simply could not handle it psychologically. It seems Yahweh punishes those who are least subservient to him.