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Distraction from what?

I'm not entirely sure either, but if all futurist and high-tech discourse is focused on the evidence or lack of evidence surrounding these UFOs, this directs the discourse away from other topics. Such evidence might not ever be shown to normal people, due to being "classified"--and thus the distraction/debate can be prolonged endlessly.

Whether it is specifically the intended purpose or not, these alien debates are taking away from energy and eyes that should be used to discuss the _ethics_ of the impending human-made AI crisis. While people are too busy discussing aliens for years (which is an incredibly important topic we should take seriously, which is why I have made these posts about it), AI development will continue to occur in the background. Until one day, boom. It's here and the Pandora's box cannot be closed. Instead, if the millions of people who are currently excited or having their world fall apart from the potential existence of aliens were focused on discourse about the impending existence of AI and how that will upend human life as we know it, there is the potential that AI development could be halted or severely restricted. At the very least, it would become too controversial for it to go full-steam-ahead with no oversight.

Aliens sending some investigatory probes will be nothing compared to living in a human-made Earth where our economic systems completely collapse from AI, the climate crisis renders vast stretches of the Earth uninhabitable, and then most of the populace are enslaved by Boston Dynamics Terminators.

Techno-accelerationists want to open the box as quickly as possible to prevent any possibility that someone could stand in their way. This includes private companies and the US military/government as well. With all these spectacular claims of aliens, the public might not find it controversial if the government decides to dedicate a large budget to "investigating" (or, worse, reverse engineering) things. In reality, this could be used as a cover for dedicating a large budget to develop the final push for technology that should never be invented in the first place. And as I speculated, they might already have AI and are trying to make some damage-control narrative about how it got here!


The alien discussions also make it more difficult for us to argue against space colonization if "the masses" reach a "consensus" that its already happening from other species. (This tactic is called "poisoning the well" in regular debates and "manufacturing consent" in the context of politics). Again, note that the dominant framing of discourse right now hinges on evidence (which may never appear), while our side of the debate focuses on ethics or even metaphysical and spiritual subjects.

Everything about this is pushing people to investigate/debate the wrong topics from the wrong framing.

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Recall that Engels and Marx wanted to completely eliminate "counter-revolutionary" Slavic peoples:
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Entire races would be left behind after a workers' revolution, feudal remnants in a socialist age; and since they could not advance two steps at a time, they would have to be killed. They were racial trash, as Engels called them, and fit only for the dung-heap of history.
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/national-socialism-is-revolutionary-not-reactionary/msg11178/#msg11178
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/national-socialism-is-revolutionary-not-reactionary/msg11179/#msg11179

This plan was later attributed to National Socialists, even though their propaganda was explicitly integrationist towards Slavic individuals who rejected communism:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/national-socialism-is-revolutionary-not-reactionary/msg11243/#msg11243

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Marx was rather impolite towards one of the leaders of the first successful political party to profess a Marxist ideology:
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Ferdinand Lassalle (born 11 April 1825, died 31 August 1864) was a Prussian-German jurist, philosopher, socialist and political activist who is best remembered as the initiator of the social-democratic movement in Germany. "Lassalle was the first man in Germany, the first in Europe, who succeeded in organising a party of socialist action"
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Lassalle and Marx became friends during the Revolutions of 1848. When the protests were crushed, Lassalle was imprisoned and Marx fled Germany. They continued correspondence through letters, and would not meet again until 1861. In the meantime Marx grew to distrust Lassalle under influence of Engels, who had never much sympathy for him. Marx often responded to Lassalle's warm letters by mirroring this tone, but in his letters to Engels he expressed antipathy towards Lassalle, including calling him "the Jewish n***er Lassalle".[31] Lassalle continued to believe that their friendship was genuine until at least 1862.[32] Franz Mehring called Marx's "attitude to Lassalle [...] the most difficult psychological problem his life offers".[33]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Lassalle#Relations_with_Marx

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Colonial Era / Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
« on: June 19, 2023, 10:09:25 pm »
How many times have you heard False Leftists mock National Socialism for labelling dangerous trends in physics as "Jewish physics"?

First of all, it wasn't even the National Socialists who started this, and the movement didn't gain much momentum. It seems to have been abandoned after Himmler's mother told him to be nicer to physicists? LOL.
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This movement began as an extension of a German nationalistic movement in the physics community which went back as far as World War I.
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During the early years of the twentieth century, Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity caused bitter controversy within the worldwide physics community. There were many physicists, especially the "old guard", who were suspicious of the intuitive meanings of Einstein's theories.
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When the Nazis entered the political scene, Lenard quickly attempted to ally himself with them, joining the party at an early stage. With another physics Nobel laureate, Johannes Stark, Lenard began a core campaign to label Einstein's Relativity as Jewish Physics.
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The figureheads of "Aryan Physics" met with moderate success, but the support from the Nazi Party was not as great as Lenard and Stark would have preferred.
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In a historic moment, Heisenberg's mother rang Himmler's mother and asked her if she would please tell the SS to give "Werner" a break. After beginning a full character evaluation, which Heisenberg both instigated and passed, Himmler forbade further attack on the physicist. Heisenberg would later employ his "Jewish physics" in the German project to develop nuclear fission for the purposes of nuclear weapons or nuclear energy use. Himmler promised Heisenberg that after Germany won the war, the SS would finance a physics institute to be directed by Heisenberg.[11]

Lenard began to play less and less of a role, and soon Stark ran into even more difficulty, as other scientists and industrialists known for being exceptionally "Aryan" came to the defense of Relativity and quantum mechanics. As historian Mark Walker puts it, "despite his best efforts, in the end his science was not accepted, supported, or used by the Third Reich. Stark spent a great deal of his time during the Third Reich fighting with bureaucrats within the National Socialist state. Most of the National Socialist leadership either never supported Lenard and Stark, or abandoned them in the course of the Third Reich."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik


Secondly, it turns out the Soviets went much farther with their ideological rejection of empirical sciences. Even genetics was considered "Bourgeois pseudoscience",  rather than acceptable "proletarian science". It seems the Soviets also rejected the study of dangerous trends in physics, at least initially.

They even banned sociology, which should once and for all prove that "critical theory", "wokeism", or whatever are not "communist".
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Bourgeois pseudoscience (Russian: Буржуазная лженаука) was a term of condemnation in the Soviet Union for certain scientific disciplines that were deemed unacceptable from an ideological point of view[1][2] due to their incompatibility with Marxism–Leninism. For example, genetics was not acceptable due to the role of random mutations of an individual organism in evolution, which was perceived as incompatible with the "universal laws of history" that applied to masses universally, as postulated by the Marxist ideology.[3] At various times pronounced "bourgeois pseudosciences" were: genetics,[notes 1] cybernetics, quantum physics, theory of relativity, sociology and particular directions in comparative linguistics (Japhetic theory). This attitude was most prevalent during the rule of Joseph Stalin.

Notably, the term was not used by Stalin himself, who rejected the notion that science can have a class nature. Stalin removed all mention of “bourgeois biology” from Trofim Lysenko’s report, The State of Biology in the Soviet Union, and in the margin next to the statement that “any science is based on class” Stalin wrote, “Ha-ha-ha!! And what about mathematics? Or Darwinism?”[4] The term was mostly used by Stalinist philosophers, such as Mark Moisevich Rosenthal and Pavel Yudin, who use it in the 1951 and 1954 editions of their Short Philosophical Dictionary: "Eugenics is a bourgeois pseudoscience",[5] "Weismannism-Morganism - bourgeois pseudoscience, designed to justify capitalism".[6]

Psychology was declared "bourgeois pseudoscience" in People's Republic of China during the Cultural Revolution (1966-1976).[7] Sociology was banned in PRC in 1952,[8] and it remained banned for over 30 years.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeois_pseudoscience

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Many fields of scientific research in the Soviet Union were banned or suppressed with various justifications. All humanities and social sciences were tested for strict accordance with historical materialism. These tests served as a cover for political suppression of scientists who engaged in research labeled as "idealistic" or "bourgeois".[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repression_of_science_in_the_Soviet_Union


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlovian_session

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On a slight tangent, it seems vocabulary may have come to a point where we shouldn't necessarily reject the term "historical revisionism". I remember Holocaust investigators of all ideological backgrounds being branded negatively as "revisionists" multiple decades ago, then a decade ago I remember Wikipedia distinguishing between "negative revisionism" and "positive revisionism". Now it's describing "revisionism" as a purely positive thing (and claiming it was solely Holocaust investigators who self-labelled as "historical revisionists", which itself is a distortion of history when so many used that as a negative term against them, lol):
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In historiography, historical revisionism is the reinterpretation of a historical account.[1] It usually involves challenging the orthodox (established, accepted or traditional) views held by professional scholars about a historical event or timespan or phenomenon, introducing contrary evidence, or reinterpreting the motivations and decisions of the people involved. The revision of the historical record can reflect new discoveries of fact, evidence, and interpretation, which then results in revised history. In dramatic cases, revisionism involves a reversal of older moral judgments.

At a basic level, legitimate historical revisionism is a common and not especially controversial process of developing and refining the writing of histories.
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The historian Deborah Lipstadt (Denying the Holocaust: The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory, 1993), and the historians Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman (Denying History: Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do They Say It?, 2002), distinguish between historical revisionism and historical negationism, the latter of which is a form of denialism. Lipstadt said that Holocaust deniers, such as Harry Elmer Barnes, disingenuously self-identify as "historical revisionists" in order to obscure their denialism as academic revision of the historical record.

As such, Lipstadt, Shermer, and Grobman said that legitimate historical revisionism entails the refinement of existing knowledge about an historical event, not a denial of the event, itself; that such refinement of history emerges from the examination of new, empirical evidence, and a re-examination, and consequent re-interpretation of the existing documentary evidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_revisionism

On the other hand, the idea that the distortion of history is a "negation" or "denial" doesn't really capture the idea that politically-motivated distortions of history can be a narrative which lies by omission (e.g. through double standards by placing undue emphasis on certain events), or even a narrative which agrees upon all the commonly-accepted facts but comes to a different moral conclusion.
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Historical negationism,[1][2] also called denialism, is falsification[3][4] or distortion of the historical record.
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The term negationism (négationnisme) was first coined by the French historian Henry Rousso in his 1987 book The Vichy Syndrome which looked at the French popular memory of Vichy France and the French Resistance. Rousso posited that it was necessary to distinguish between legitimate historical revisionism in Holocaust studies and politically motivated denial of the Holocaust, which he termed negationism.[12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_negationism

Just some food for thought.

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True Left vs False Left / Re: Dietary decolonization
« on: June 19, 2023, 09:51:56 pm »
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The predecessors to burakumin, called kawata (かわた [ja]) or eta (穢多 [ja]) formed as a distinct group some time during the Heian period, AD 794–1185. The permeation of Buddhism into Japan in the first millennium led to the castigation of meat eating and similar activities. The Shinto and Buddhist cultures, that centered around aiming for a certain purity of body and mind, considered working with dead animals, blood, or any sort of decaying object as polluting, and hence occupations like butchery and leather tanning were besmirched.[6] The eta, people who held such occupations, dealt therefore with pollution and were hence considered to be inferior or sub-human.
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The practice of eating meat existed even during the Edo period,[21] but the official ban of the consumption of meat from livestock was ended in 1871 in order to "Westernise" the country. Many former eta began to work in abattoirs and as butchers, as they were thought to be experienced with the handling of dead bodies.[10]
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Prejudice against the consumption of meat continued throughout the Meiji period. In 1872, a group of Yamabushi, who objected to the Emperor's consumption of meat, tried to enter the Tokyo Imperial Palace and four of them were killed. They claimed that gods would leave Japan because the Japanese had eaten meat.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burakumin#End_of_the_feudal_era

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How do westerners and their sycophants plan on getting an ever increasingly powerful AI (especially if it's designing it's own microchips) to go along with the "democracy is the greatest form of government ever invented" lie?

Well, the mastermind inventors behind AI basically think they are gods, and the CEOs of rich tech companies already buy politicians to implement their desires. So neither of them care about the democracy.

As for average people, from what I've seen in "futurology" discussions, transhumanists think AI is the next step in evolution, and they are ready for humanity to be left in the dust. So I guess they are technocrats who don't care about the low-tech masses. Outside of AI discussions, average Western tech junkies seem to think they will be space conquistadors or rule over Mars fiefdoms for being "early adopters" who are supportive of the megalomaniac CEOs. So I doubt they are too worried about democracy either.

Potential aliens aside, the dangers on Earth are heating up as multiple ignoble factions come ever closer to a decisive moment ending democracy.

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More theoretical bad news. How long would it take the colonize the Milky Way galaxy?

By some calculations, it could take as little as 500,000 years for probes to spread throughout the entire galaxy... This wouldn't necessarily mean advanced life could colonize the galaxy within this time span, but the probes would likely be sentient machines, or could carry simple biological life to "seed" planets.

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The concept of self-replicating spacecraft, as envisioned by mathematician John von Neumann, has been described by futurists including physicist Michio Kaku and discussed across a wide breadth of hard science fiction novels and stories. Self-replicating probes are sometimes referred to as von Neumann probes. Self-replicating spacecraft would in some ways either mimic or echo the features of living organisms or viruses.[1]

Von Neumann proved that the most effective way of performing large-scale mining operations such as mining an entire moon or asteroid belt would be by self-replicating spacecraft, taking advantage of their exponential growth.[2] In theory, a self-replicating spacecraft could be sent to a neighbouring planetary system, where it would seek out raw materials (extracted from asteroids, moons, gas giants, etc.) to create replicas of itself. These replicas would then be sent out to other planetary systems. The original "parent" probe could then pursue its primary purpose within the star system. This mission varies widely depending on the variant of self-replicating starship proposed.

Given this pattern, and its similarity to the reproduction patterns of bacteria, it has been pointed out that von Neumann machines might be considered a form of life. In his short story "Lungfish" (see Self-replicating machines in fiction), David Brin touches on this idea, pointing out that self-replicating machines launched by different species might actually compete with one another (in a Darwinistic fashion) for raw material, or even have conflicting missions. Given enough variety of "species" they might even form a type of ecology, or – should they also have a form of artificial intelligence – a society. They may even mutate with untold thousands of "generations".

The first quantitative engineering analysis of such a spacecraft was published in 1980 by Robert Freitas,[2] in which the non-replicating Project Daedalus design was modified to include all subsystems necessary for self-replication. The design's strategy was to use the probe to deliver a "seed" factory with a mass of about 443 tons to a distant site, have the seed factory produce many copies of itself there to increase its total manufacturing capacity over a 500-year period, and then use the resulting automated industrial complex to construct more probes with a single seed factory on board each.

It has been theorized[3] that a self-replicating starship utilizing relatively conventional theoretical methods of interstellar travel (i.e., no exotic faster-than-light propulsion, and speeds limited to an "average cruising speed" of 0.1c.) could spread throughout a galaxy the size of the Milky Way in as little as half a million years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_spacecraft

The Milky Way galaxy is at least 10 billion years old. If life exists in the galaxy, it would only take sentient probes around 0.0005 billion to spread throughout the entire thing... At least 20,000 periods of 500,000 years have elapsed in our galaxy. We have 100 billion (200,000 more periods) until we are "safe" from inter-galactic colonization.
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The oldest stars in the Milky Way are 13.4 billion years, give or take 800 million years. This is somewhat close to what the age of the Universe is (which hovers around 13.7 billion years). By measuring the age of these stars, and then calculating the interval between their formation and the death of the previous generation of stars, we can come to an approximate age of the Milky Way as 13.6 billion years.
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The age of the Milky Way is a tricky question to answer, though, because we can say that the oldest stars are 13.4 billion years old but the galaxy as we know it today still had to form out of globular clusters and dwarf elliptical galaxies in an elegant gravitational dance. If you want to define the age of the Milky Way as the formation of the galactic disk, our galaxy would be much younger. The galactic disk is not thought to have formed until about 10 – 12 billion years ago.
https://www.universetoday.com/21822/age-of-the-milky-way/

More realistically, however, Earth is likely being probed specifically because it is deemed "habitable"--assuming biological alien life follows the same general bio-chemical mechanisms of Earth life. Therefore, self-replicating machines may not yet have spread throughout the entire universe.

The way human astronomers identify "habitable" planets is through various characteristics like the chemical signatures for water, size, composition, location, etc. Assuming alien life uses the same organic compounds in their bio-chemistry as Earth life, Earth would fit the criteria for a planet to examine closely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_potentially_habitable_exoplanets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superhabitable_planet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_analog

The closest "habitable" planet is Teegarden's Star b, which also has the highest "Earth Similarity Index" thus far known. It is 12.5 light years away.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teegarden%27s_Star_b

It seems one of the fastest space probes created by humans in the Voyager 1, which reached a speed of 0.00006 of the speed of light.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(speed)

This means it would take 208,333 years for a craft travelling at that speed to travel between Teegarden's Star b and Earth (assuming it was going that speed the whole time--in reality it would need to accelerate up to that point).

Assuming the probes are real, they could have come from a planet farther away, but also could have travelled faster than Voyager 1. The vast time it takes for inter-planetary travel also means the alien civilization has unfathomably more advanced technology than when it first sent the probes. ...Or maybe they went extinct.


(More bad news--even if we aren't being probed by aliens, we could soon become the aliens doing the probing):
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Identifying ‘habitable worlds’ is a top priority for astronomers in the decade ahead

Over the next decade, scientists aim to unlock the secrets of the universe and identify Earth-like planets outside of our solar system to find other habitable worlds. Ultimately, this research could reveal if we truly are alone.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/04/world/astro2020-decadal-report-habitable-planets-scn/index.html


If there is alien life out there, how many civilizations are we dealing with? It seems it is impossible to estimate.
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The theories and principles in the Drake equation are closely related to the Fermi paradox.[29] The equation was formulated by Frank Drake in 1961 in an attempt to find a systematic means to evaluate the numerous probabilities involved in the existence of alien life.
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The Drake equation has been used by both optimists and pessimists, with wildly differing results. The first scientific meeting on the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI), which had 10 attendees including Frank Drake and Carl Sagan, speculated that the number of civilizations was roughly between 1,000 and 100,000,000 civilizations in the Milky Way galaxy.[31] Conversely, Frank Tipler and John D. Barrow used pessimistic numbers and speculated that the average number of civilizations in a galaxy is much less than one.[32] Almost all arguments involving the Drake equation suffer from the overconfidence effect, a common error of probabilistic reasoning about low-probability events, by guessing specific numbers for likelihoods of events whose mechanism is not yet understood, such as the likelihood of abiogenesis on an Earth-like planet, with current likelihood estimates varying over many hundreds of orders of magnitude. An analysis that takes into account some of the uncertainty associated with this lack of understanding has been carried out by Anders Sandberg, Eric Drexler and Toby Ord,[33] and suggests "a substantial ex ante probability of there being no other intelligent life in our observable universe".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#Drake_equation



...Some theoretical good news for inter-galactic ahimsa? Of course, those probes could go rogue by "evolving" to no longer obey their mission, inadvertently spread life, or inadvertently serve as a catalyst for another civilization to develop advanced technology in defense (or through reverse engineering a captured probe).
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The berserker hypothesis, also known as the deadly probes scenario, is the idea that humans have not yet detected intelligent alien life in the universe because it has been systematically destroyed by a series of lethal Von Neumann probes.[1][2] The hypothesis is named after the Berserker series of novels (1963-2005) written by Fred Saberhagen.[1]
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In his 1983 paper "The Great Silence", astronomer David Brin summarized the frightening implications of the berserker hypothesis: it is entirely compatible with all the facts and logic of the Fermi paradox, but would mean that there exists no intelligent life left to be discovered. In the worst-case scenario, humanity has already alerted others to its existence, and is next in line to be destroyed.[4]
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There is no reliable or reproducible evidence that aliens have visited Earth.[5][6] No transmissions or evidence of intelligent extraterrestrial life have been observed anywhere other than Earth in the Universe. This runs counter to the knowledge that the Universe is filled with a very large number of planets, some of which likely hold the conditions hospitable for life. Life typically expands until it fills all available niches.[7] These contradictory facts form the basis for the Fermi paradox, of which the berserker hypothesis is one proposed solution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserker_hypothesis

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I watched Grusch's interview released by NewsNation on June 11th. It seems like it was a 1 hour mash up of interviews released with him the prior week and maybe some new material? Or maybe it's just a re-release of the previous week's material? I wasn't entirely clear.

After watching it, it seems like a psyops is definitely on the table.

In his interview with NewsNation on June 5th or 6th (shown in the June 11th recap) Grusch said he did not personally see the UFOs he's claiming exist--it seems his claims come from talking to various individuals who disclosed to him that they were involved in UFO/UAP programs, Grusch's examination of some photos and reports, and things he was briefed on. When he pushed to be able to investigate the secret programs he was being told about personally, he was faced with "pushback". It sounds like his whistleblowing is based on the people who had shut him down once he tried to investigate.

He was also careful to specify he thinks the "craft" are created by "non-human intelligence", rather than extraterrestrials. In other words, recent phenomena could be a human-made AI and he wouldn't necessarily be lying. It seems like the main "evidence" he pointed to is that the "craft" allegedly made of "advanced materials" with atypical radiological signatures. Humans have always been inventing new materials, so that doesn't seem like convincing evidence on its own.

He also said football-field size craft have been observed. I forget if he said whether his source for that was exclusively interviews, or if he directly analyzed footage. ...Astronomers and the vast network of private satellites haven't seen anything "weird" like that before..? Hmm...

Multiple times he claims there is a "cold war" over the recovery and reverse engineering of the alleged technology. There is already an arms race for human-made AI and advanced tech, so this cold war would exist even without aliens.


"Credible" former government officials have been used in various programs in the past to conduct disinfo campaigns to the public (most notably to stir up the Iraq war), so I wouldn't be surprised if Grusch was as well. Articles and discussion comments keep stressing his personal "credibility", rather than the credibility of his supposed evidence. Seems fishy.

Perhaps we can sigh a brief relief (until Grusch's alleged evidence gets revealed). Nevertheless, the human-made AI crisis and the crisis of human space colonization is real and will soon curse our world. We will soon be those aliens unless something is changed.

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Here's another possibility. This is the "best" case scenario I guess. Just a bunch of claims that got blown out of proportion, spread around until people believed them, and the truth got so confused that there needed to be a "task force" to investigate it.
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My fear is Grusch and all of the known UFO names over the last 5-6 years are all just quoting each other.

Grusch may have government folks who told him everything he said to congress…what if those sources are Mellon and Elizondo.

What if Mellon and Elizondo’s sources are military folks with extraordinary claims. What if those folks with extraordinary claims use Mellon and Elizondo as the people who view their claims as credible when speaking to people like Kean and Coulhart.

What if Mellon and Elizondo have confirmation bias because reputable news sources say they have witness that have government officials who can back up their claims.

What if Grusch trusts his sources as credible because of their track record of being credible…

Etc. Etc.

My point is…it concerns me there’s like a group of 10 people who are mostly confirming and validating themselves based on reports from other people of things they’ve said.

Purely a devil’s advocate POV but that concerns me about DG.

Edit: let’s say Lazar tells Lear there’s 12 crafts…then Lear goes on this interview and says there’s 12 crafts…then Knapp says, I’ve got two corroborating witnesses that say there’s 12 crafts…then Kean interviews someone who’s says I know from 2 sources we have 12 crafts….then someone says, WOW…Lazar and Lear were right because a reputable journalist corroborated there were 12 crafts, they were right all along! Then someone from within the government says, I know this seems outlandish but there might actually be something to this. Then someone who’s tasked with investigating asks the people within the government who believe the reports they’re hearing are true but can’t back it up says…I know these reports sound crazy but I’ve spoken with high level government officials who believe this is true.
https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14d1z01/john_lear_corroborates_12_to_15_recovered_alien/jonvlb7/

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Although in all honestly, the risk assessment here is so grave that I think we should assume the worst until proven otherwise. Assuming all the claims are false but subsequently being proven wrong is too grave a situation to allow ourselves to be in. Even the "best" case scenario means the world's militaries and corporations are on the brink of creating sentient AI, and that human-led space colonization efforts will likely become a reality within our lifetimes.

We are rapidly approaching Judgment Day from the Terminator series, and we must reassess our priorities accordingly.

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Counterculture Era / Re: Pop culture studies
« on: June 10, 2023, 12:36:57 pm »
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I wonder if it is possible to revive this kind of hobbyism?

There seems to be an online counterculture/subculture where this is happening, described by names like "retro web", "small web", "indie web", and other names.

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True Left vs Right / Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« on: June 10, 2023, 12:20:44 pm »
Bloodthirsty Yahwehist (Jason Graber):


vs Jesus:

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And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. -Matthew 18:3-4

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Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.” -Matthew 19:14



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Judeo-"Christians" are now admitting they don't even like Jesus's teachings?




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If this is just a psyops to distract us from something, what are the possibilities that may have happened?


-The US government is preparing us for the psychological horror of some kind of advanced drone warfare (presumably carried out by human-made sentient machines) that will soon be practical.

-The US or Chinese governments have invented sentient drone machines, but have lost control of them already, and blaming "aliens" for their creation is less likely to threaten existing power structures than being forced to admit the evil humans have created. I'm not sure if Israel, Russia, or other nations currently have the computing power to develop sentient AI. Government research into technology seems to be more advanced than private sector research, so I think it is less probable that a private company has developed a sentient AI more advanced than anything companies have released publicly thus far.

-An excuse to raise the military budget and generate funding for programs to develop (currently non-existent) sentient machines to "respond" to the non-existent alien threat? With private companies on the brink of developing such AI, surely the US government/military wants to dedicate resources in order to be the first organization to create this AI. No doubt Putin isn't the only one to share the following attitude:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/4/16251226/russia-ai-putin-rule-the-world

-Whether aliens are here are not, as this topic becomes more widely discussed, Yahwehists will take the opportunity to push the importance of space colonization by humans and the continued advancement of technology. Maybe this will be the pretense to "build a global consensus" that pursuing advanced space colonization and propagation of organisms throughout the galaxy must be the primary focus of humanity. The need for some type of global coordination in response to these supposed aliens is something that Grusch has stressed. Even if aliens haven't found us, anti-Yahweists/anti-space-colonizationists will have to be prepared to come out on top whenever the time comes to build a "global consensus" on the matter.

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There does not yet appear to be any solid evidence to believe the story is true just yet.

And here is a discussion expressing some possible reasons for skepticism:
https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/143k3oz/some_reasons_for_skepticism_regarding_recent/


However, the existence of life outside of Earth has significant implications for our ultimate end-game and anti-technologist and anti-Yahwehist principles. This deeply concerns me.

There are estimated to be 200 billion galaxies in the universe, and an estimated one septillion (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) stars. In the interview with Kaku in the previous post, he says in the Milky Way alone there are at minimum 100,000,000,000 planets, each one of which is orbiting a different star.

Life exists on Earth. Intelligent life exists on Earth. Intelligent life on the cusp of creating sentient machines exists on Earth. Therefore, the probability of such things is non-zero, and, on a large enough scale, _will_ occur again somewhere else in the universe.

In the past, it seems the movement's general attitude has been that searching for life outside of Earth and helping it transcend would be a never-ending goose chase involving the necessity to create increasingly advanced technology and reproduce for a near-infinite amount of generations, and we will simply have to have faith that noble forces outside of Earth will similarly transcend the material realm.

It may be time to reopen our thoughts on what the ultimate long-term end-game will have to be if non-Earth life has truly found us.

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If this is real, the assumptions I think we can make are:

-The non-Earth "craft" are sentient machines and do not involve "biological" organisms directly piloting them. Based on lifeforms on Earth, travelling vast distances across the galaxy or between galaxies will be excessively difficult due to our lifespans and food/environmental requirements. Machines would also be able to enter more extreme environments with a greater level of pressure, toxins, etc. than a biological organism, as well as fit inside a smaller craft and be able to tolerate higher amounts of acceleration/g-forces.

-It also seems unlikely that they are piloted remotely by biological organisms (for example, like a human Mars rover). There is significant lag time in commutations (governed by the speed of light) that is evident even in Moon missions, so the base for a remotely piloted craft would have to be somewhere in our solar system, which does not seem likely.

-The sentient machines and their creators probably originate from somewhere close to us, most probably within our own galaxy or Local Group of galaxies (5 million light year radius):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_habitable_zone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_galaxies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Group

-They could not have originated more than a 16 billion light year radius away from us. This is the current cosmic event horizon (read below.)

-If a giant mothership, on its way to enslave all of us, was going to reach Earth within our lifetimes, astronomers would probably have noticed something unusual by now. But future generations may not be as lucky as us. We have a duty to them to take this seriously before it becomes an unsolvable crisis.

-If the claims are credible, Grusch (the whistleblower) and others associated with him are claiming the earliest evidence of humans capturing UFOs dates back to 1933. I.e. whatever is happening has been ongoing for at least 90 years.
https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/143ivlu/sunday_newsnation_report_is_possibly_going_to/

-Trying to deal with this issue in a society which operates using democracy and private, uncontrolled, economic enterprise will be an unfathomable risk and disaster. In other words, besides the (human-made) AI crisis and the climate crisis, the we-are-not-alone/ultra-high-tech-recovered-from-aliens crisis represents another angle that pressure can be applied in order to return to a functional form of government.

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In terms of physics and astronomy, what do we have to work with to understand the ultimate fate of the universe?


Our understanding of physics is that light speed is the fastest speed possible for a particle to travel.

Our understanding of the observable universe is that it is expanding, and at an accelerating rate.

The speed of light is ~299,792 km/s, which means that if space between two points in the universe is expanding faster than that, it can never be reached with our current understanding of physics. (Something like "wormholes", multi-dimensionality of the universe, or studies of quantum mechanics invalidating our current knowledge could change this assumption). This threshold is called the cosmic event horizon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_horizon

Our understanding of physics is that an object with mass cannot actually reach the speed of light. Therefore, the time to reach the cosmic event horizon for spacecraft is smaller than the time to reach the horizon for light. I am not familiar enough with the topic to make any estimates of how much less time.

Here is a further explanation of the cosmic event horizon.
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because the expansion of the universe is accelerating, it is projected that most galaxies will eventually cross a type of cosmological event horizon where any light they emit past that point will never be able to reach us at any time in the infinite future,[30] because the light never reaches a point where its "peculiar velocity" towards us exceeds the expansion velocity away from us (these two notions of velocity are also discussed in Comoving and proper distances#Uses of the proper distance). The current distance to this cosmological event horizon is about 16 billion light-years, meaning that a signal from an event happening at present would eventually be able to reach us in the future if the event was less than 16 billion light-years away, but the signal would never reach us if the event was more than 16 billion light-years away.[28]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light#Universal_expansion

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How can the universe expand faster than light travels?
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A key feature of this expansion is how uniform it is.
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It means that if you look at a galaxy 1 megaparsec away, it will appear to be receding away from us at 68 km/s. If you look at a galaxy 2 megaparsec away, it recedes at 136 km/s. Three megaparsec away? You got it! 204 km/s. And on and on: for every megaparsec, you can add 68 km/s to the velocity of the far-away galaxy.
https://www.space.com/33306-how-does-the-universe-expand-faster-than-light.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law

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Using a relatively new and potentially more precise technique for measuring cosmic distances, which employs the average stellar brightness within giant elliptical galaxies as a rung on the distance ladder, astronomers calculate a rate — 73.3 kilometers per second per megaparsec, give or take 2.5 km/sec/Mpc — that lies in the middle of three other good estimates, including the gold standard estimate from Type Ia supernovae. This means that for every megaparsec — 3.3 million light years, or 3 billion trillion kilometers — from Earth, the universe is expanding an extra 73.3 ±2.5 kilometers per second. The average from the three other techniques is 73.5 ±1.4 km/sec/Mpc.
https://news.berkeley.edu/2021/03/08/how-fast-is-the-universe-expanding-galaxies-provide-one-answer/

The universe is estimated to have a radius of 45.7 billion light years, so we are at least safe from ~96% of the universe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe


The real question is, when will we reach the point where cosmological horizon is so small that space colonization is no longer possible? If random Wikipedia quotations can be trusted, it could take between 100 billion to 1 trillion (100,000,000,000 - 1,000,000,000,000) years from now for the Local Group of galaxies to be inescapable. The Local Group is comprised of the Milk Way, Andromeda Galaxy, and their smaller satellite galaxies. It has a radius of 5 million light years. (Remember, currently space colonists can travel a maximum of 16 _billion_ light years).

...For perspective, Earth is estimated to be 4.5 billion years old, life formed by at least 3.7 billion years ago, ancestors of mammals have existed for ~250-200 million years, and primates around 85-55 million. "Modern humans" have been around for only ~160,000 years. There were 156 years between the theory of evolution being introduced and the first gene-edited human (2015). There were 66 years between the first flight and first humans on the Moon. It's taken 76 years from the invention of the transistor to arrive at the cusp of sentient machines. What will happen in the next 100 billion years?

...The universe itself is estimated to only be ~13.8 billion years old.

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Coalescence of Local Group and galaxies outside the Local Supercluster are no longer accessible

The galaxies in the Local Group, the cluster of galaxies which includes the Milky Way and the Andromeda Galaxy, are gravitationally bound to each other. It is expected that between 10^11 (100 billion) and 10^12 (1 trillion) years from now, their orbits will decay and the entire Local Group will merge into one large galaxy.[5]

Assuming that dark energy continues to make the universe expand at an accelerating rate, in about 150 billion years all galaxies outside the Local Supercluster will pass behind the cosmological horizon. It will then be impossible for events in the Local Supercluster to affect other galaxies. Similarly, it will be impossible for events after 150 billion years, as seen by observers in distant galaxies, to affect events in the Local Supercluster.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Coalescence_of_Local_Group_and_galaxies_outside_the_Local_Supercluster_are_no_longer_accessible

The Sun will turn into a red giant star approximately 5 billion years from now, engulfing Earth or at least rendering it uninhabitable.

However, we may have to battle Earth-originating-space-colonists and non-Earth-originating Yahwehists for 95 billion more years after that occurs.


To make things more depressing, that is only the amount of time before inter-galactic colonization originating from our region of the universe becomes impossible. Intra-galactic colonization within the merged Local Group, within solar systems, and within individual planets will still be able to occur.

The physical/chemical reactions needed to support life will only completely cease with the heat death of the universe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe

It seems estimates of when the heat death will occur are around ~10^100 years from now.

That is 10,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000 years from now.


More realistically, however, the chemical energy needed to sustain life will likely be unachievable within half or a quarter of this time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Possible_ionization_of_matter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Future_with_proton_decay
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Future_without_proton_decay

Even more realistically, I think a reasonable assumption is that the conditions to support complex life will be unlikely to exist within 1/7th of the time, i.e. 10^15 (1 quadrillion) years from now. However, who knows what kind of technology could be invented by then to permanently prolong living conditions of engineered machines/lifeforms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Planets_fall_or_are_flung_from_orbits_by_a_close_encounter_with_another_star


Small matters seem so trivial with all this at stake.

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It looks like we may be in for the worst news in human history.

If dealing with the (human-made) AI crisis wasn't bad enough, it seems (what I assume are) sentient machines have already found us:

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But a new report from Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal — part of the team that broke the Times story in 2017 — gives hope to the alien optimists.

On the science website the Debrief, the pair describe the story of a Defense intelligence whistleblower who has alleged that the Intelligence Community is hiding classified evidence of “intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.”

The whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, claims in a complaint that the Pentagon, other nations, and defense contractors have recovered fragments “of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures.” Grusch goes on to state that the “material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.”

While a previous UFO expert in the government might have been discredited, Grusch has bona fides that are worth taking seriously. Grusch is a 36-year-old combat veteran of Afghanistan who was a member of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, the program run by the Office of Naval Intelligence to investigate UFO sightings. From 2019 to 2021, he served on the task force as the representative of the National Reconnaissance Office, considered one of the big five of the U.S. intelligence agencies. His colleagues think highly of him, too. Karl Nell, a retired Army colonel who was also on the UFO task force, told the Debrief that Grusch was “beyond reproach.” Nell even backed up one of Grusch’s claims in the complaint: that there is an ongoing competition with other countries to “identify [UFO] crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering.”

“His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct,” Nell told the Debrief. “As is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence.” Another intelligence official investigating UFOs, Jonathan Grey, concurred. “The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone,” he said. “This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/06/ex-intel-official-government-hiding-alien-tech.html

Original article:
https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/
https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-a-with-debrief-co-founder-and-investigator-tim-mcmillan-part-1/

Discussion:
https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/141ch26/intelligence_officials_say_us_has_retrieved_craft/


I suppose this could also mean that governments have now developed unfathomably advanced (likely sentient) drone technology, and the alien hub-bub is a psyops/cover to distract from the psychological terror of what humans have created. If private corporations have been able to create advanced computing programs that even some of their employees are convinced are sentient, then the US government certainly has had the capability to create something even more advanced.

May god have mercy on us.

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Human Evolution / Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
« on: March 19, 2023, 09:26:27 pm »
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The enemy meme is misleading. Cephalic index is measured from above:

Technically this is correct, but there is a general correlation between cephalic index and face width, so later stages of physical anthropology texts often sloppily used frontal images with corresponding discussion of cephalic index. This correlation doesn't always hold true. For example, if I recall correctly, the ancient 'Cro-Magnon' skulls are dolichocephalic although they are wide when viewed from the front.

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News / Re: Red coup
« on: March 19, 2023, 09:06:56 pm »
With all the discussion of the 2020 coup attempt and Republican preparations for another coup attempt to take the presidency, let's not forget that they just successfully pulled off a coup in the legislative branch.

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On January 6th, 2021, 147 Republican members of Congress voted to overthrow the government of the United States. From that moment on, all of those 147 individuals were occupying their position in Congress illegally--having violated their oath of office, becoming Constitutionally ineligible for office under the 14th Amendment, and having committed treason by becoming domestic enemies of the United States.

Of course, the laws and even Constitution itself apparently don't mean anything, as Nancy Pelosi and Democratic Party leadership allowed these treasonous Republicans to serve their entire term in office in the 117th Congress.
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Despite the support of the majority of the Republican Party, the Insurrection and Coup Vote on January 6th failed to illegally keep Republicans in control of the Presidency.

However, the refusal of Nancy Pelosi and Democratic Party leadership to enforce the Constitution and expel illegally-serving Republicans after January 6th, 2021 did what Republicans could not. They allowed Republicans to illegally hold on to offices they did not legally possess.

The swearing in of Constitutionally-ineligible individuals to the 118th Congress on January 3rd, 2023 did what the Insurrection and Coup Vote could not. Republicans have illegally taken control of the majority of the House of Representatives.
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And if you don't believe me, take the word of (illegally-acting) Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy. After 15 rounds of voting and making massive concessions to the staunchest Trumpist Republicans (who only voted for McCarthy after Trump personally commanded them to over the phone), McCarthy was (illegally) elected as Speaker.

What was his first act? Praising Trump for endorsing him and "unifying" the party.
https://authenticamericandream.blogspot.com/2023/03/the-coup-in-house-of-representatives.html


And let's not celebrate (if) Trump is arrested in a few days. There are many more steps that must happen before we can have a sigh of relief.
https://authenticamericandream.blogspot.com/2023/03/trump-expects-to-be-arrested-and-calls-for-civil-war-again.html

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Colonial Era / Re: National Socialists were socialists
« on: March 19, 2023, 08:50:42 pm »
In Mein Kampf, Hitler says his first political interest was the socialism of the SPD, but he became "Jew aware" and turned on the party while in Vienna before WWI.

This does not line up with the evidence, and it seems likely Hitler was trying to rewrite his past.

Given the facts, it seems more likely Hitler was one of the many soldiers who were swept up in politics for the first time during the 1918-1919 revolution. Jews were in leadership positions in all stages of the revolution in Bavaria, so Hitler couldn't have been ignorant of this fact. Yet he served (multiple times) as a representative anyway.

Hitler's description in Mein Kampf about becoming aware of all the Jews in the SPD and existing socialist parties, the existence of a "ruthless struggle" between ideologies, learning about the importance of speaking, and studying Marxist ideology in detail lines up very well with his time in the military (both as a participant in the revolution and subsequent assignment to anti-bolshevik activities) in 1919, rather than his time in Vienna.

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Accordingly I had no feeling of antipathy towards the actual policy of the Social Democrats. That its avowed purpose was to raise the level of the working classes—which in my ignorance I then foolishly believed—was a further reason why I should speak in favour of Social Democracy rather than against it.
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And so at the age of seventeen the word 'Marxism' was very little known to me, while I looked on 'Social Democracy' and 'Socialism' as synonymous expressions. It was only as the result of a sudden blow from the rough hand of Fate that my eyes were opened to the nature of this unparalleled system for duping the public.

If Social Democracy should be opposed by a more truthful teaching, then, even though the struggle be of the bitterest kind, this truthful teaching will finally prevail, provided it be enforced with equal ruthlessness.
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I am thankful now for the ordeal which I had to go through at that time; for it was the means of bringing me to think kindly again of my own people, inasmuch as the experience enabled me to distinguish between the false leaders and the victims who have been led astray.

We must took upon the latter simply as victims.
Adolf Hitler. (1925-1926). Mein Kampf. Translated by James Murphy (1939). London: Hurst and Blackett Ltd. Page 44-50.
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.526617/page/n45/mode/2up


Now re-read the section about Hitler's actions during the Räterepublik and compare it. Incredible.

Even more incredible is how all of this evidence of Hitler and other future National Socialists starting their political careers as communists has been compiled by a mainstream historian, yet people still have the nerve to declare National Socialism as the world's most rightist ideology!

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