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Black Teacher Accused Of Bias For Teaching The Reality Of Slavery
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The critical race theory controversy which is really a rejection of anti-racism teachings has teachers like Rodney Pierce caught in the crossfire. Pierce is a social studies teacher at Red Oak Middle School in Battleboro, North Carolina and was social studies teacher of the year in 2019. Now, Pierce is facing resistance from parents saying that his teaching of history and race is biased.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxu1iXLFl5o

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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2021, 11:47:08 pm »
More people getting it:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02288-x

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Too many scientists still say Caucasian
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Of the ten clinical genetics labs in the United States that share the most data with the research community, seven include ‘Caucasian’ as a multiple-choice category for patients’ racial or ethnic identity, despite the term having no scientific basis. Nearly 5,000 biomedical papers since 2010 have used ‘Caucasian’ to describe European populations. This suggests that too many scientists apply the term, either unbothered by or unaware of its roots in racist taxonomies used to justify slavery — or worse, adding to pseudoscientific claims of white biological superiority.

Thank you for using '' around "Caucasian". But you forget to do the same with "European".

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Many working in genomics do have a nuanced understanding of the issues and want to get things right. Still, I have been dismayed by how often the academics and clinicians I’ve encountered shy away from examining, or even acknowledging, how racism warps science.
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In the United States, people with ancestry from the world’s two most populous countries, India and China, along with every other country on the continent, are collapsed into a single racial category called ‘Asian’. Similarly, the term ‘Hispanic’ erases a multitude of cultural and ancestral identities, especially among Indigenous peoples of the Americas.

In reality, the vast majority of Indians have "Caucasoid"-type skulls (ie. ones which cannot be placed face down on a flat surface without tipping to one side). However, they are rarely labelled as "Caucasian".

Still, thank you for at least putting "Asian" in ''. (No '' is needed around Hispanic, however; Spanish is a language.)

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Erroneous ideas about genetic ‘races’ live on in the broad, ambiguous ‘continental ancestry’ groups such as ‘Black, African’ or ‘African American’, that are used in the US Census and are ubiquitous in biomedical research. These collapse incredible amounts of diversity and erase cultural and ancestral identities. Study participants deemed not to fit within such crude buckets are often excluded from analyses, despite the fact that fewer and fewer individuals identify with a single population of origin.

On the other hand, people from countries such as Libya are rarely called "African" despite Libya being part of the "continent" of  "Africa" (and indeed the only true Africa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa_(Roman_province) ). Because the real point is neither to consistently stick to "continental" ancestry nor to consistently stick to skull taxonomy, but to switch between the two as necessary in accordance with Eurocentrism.

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Approaches to genetic ancestry based on known reference populations are inadequate, in part because so much global diversity is missing from our data. I am working with the Human Pangenome Reference Consortium, which aims to generate a more accurate and inclusive resource for global genomic diversity. It will include communities, especially Indigenous peoples, in developing protocols for data collection, storage and use. This respects Indigenous data sovereignty, and makes for more accurate and inclusive studies.

The more precisely we can measure genetic and non-genetic contributors to health and disease, the less researchers will rely on biologically meaningless designations that reinforce faulty assumptions and cause harm. The use of sequence data in clinical care could, for instance, facilitate recommendations for drug dosage that are genotype-based, rather than race-based.

Simply picking another word to replace ‘Caucasian’ won’t be enough to root out racism in research and medicine. But all should be aware of the harms the word represents.

Indeed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race#The_Caucasus_as_the_origin_of_humanity_and_the_peak_of_beauty

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In the eighteenth century, the prevalent view among European scholars was that the human species had its origin in the region of the Caucasus Mountains.[22] This view was based upon the Caucasus being the location for the purported landing point of Noah's Ark – from whom the Bible states that humanity is descended – and the location for the suffering of Prometheus, who in Hesiod's myth had crafted humankind from clay.[22]

In addition, the most beautiful humans were reputed to be the stereotypical "Circassian beauties" and the Georgian people; both Georgia and Circassia are in the Caucasus region.[23][22]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_beauty

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Here the majority of the women were Circassian, who without any doubt are much more distinguished in appearance. ... This natural superiority was the cause of a good deal of ill-will and envy. One Circassian woman, favoured with an aristocratic appearance, was avoided and even hated by the chocolate-coloured African women through no fault of hers, but simply because she looked majestic.
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By the early nineteenth century, Circassians were associated with theories of racial hierarchy, which elevated the Caucasus region as the source of the purest examples of the "white race", which was named the Caucasian race after the area by Johann Friedrich Blumenbach. Blumenbach theorised that the Circassians were the closest to God's original model of humanity, and thus "the purest and most beautiful whites were the Circassians".[27]
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Bella Kukan, "Miss Circassia", 2013



More laughter material:

https://twitter.com/sausruqo/status/1059225433353412613

https://twitter.com/sausruqo/status/1060686262347141121

https://twitter.com/lucinapshegubj/status/452035208251211776

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/
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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2021, 10:54:43 pm »
https://www.ajc.com/news/emory-apologizes-for-campuses-displacing-native-americans/AEZPSYGPMZC5PDFYN5BXUFZSVY/

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On Monday, the Emory board of trustees approved an official “Land Acknowledgment for Emory University” that “acknowledges the Muscogee (Creek) people who lived, worked, produced knowledge on, and nurtured the land where Emory’s Oxford and Atlanta campuses are now located.”

In a statement issued by President Gregory L. Fenves, the acknowledgment “sheds light on a tragic chapter in the Emory story.”

“It also reminds us of the important work that lies ahead to create a university community that is more inclusive of Native and Indigenous perspectives, learning, and scholarship,” Fenves said.

More importantly, the university should increasingly exclude Western perspectives, learning and scholarship. It is excluding Western learning, not including non-Western learning, which we need if we are to stop:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/

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Emory’s announcement came 10 years after the board of trustees adopted a formal statement of regret over the school’s historic involvement with African-American slavery.

It also came ahead of the university’s “In the Wake of Slavery and Dispossession” symposium starting Wednesday. The three-day event will explore the school’s history with slavery and Native American land dispossession and examine through panels, performances and art installations how that history affects the present.
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“This is a moment in which scholars, activists and artists of color have compelled a national conversation surrounding enduring legacies of anti-Black racism and, increasingly, colonialism, including overlaps between Indigenous dispossession and the enslavement of Black people in this country,” said Alix L. Olson, an assistant professor of women’s and gender studies at Oxford College.

The overlap is that both groups of victims were Americans while their common oppressors were Westerners.

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Fenves said the school will continue to recognize Indigenous Peoples’ Day and take steps to establish a stronger connection with the Muscogee Nation.

But will it take steps to weaken its connection with Western civilization?

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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2021, 11:19:29 pm »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/texas-school-administrator-told-teachers-005600802.html

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Texas school administrator told teachers to use books with 'opposing' views of Holocaust
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"Make sure that if, if you have a book on the Holocaust, that you have one that has an opposing, that has other perspectives,"

Yes, it is fortunately legal do this in the US, unlike in numerous more Zionist countries:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Holocaust_denial

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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2021, 08:55:29 pm »
There are not just laws against mere "denial", but there are also laws mandating that the sacred narrative is taught:

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As of April of 2021, laws mandating education about the Holocaust were on the books in Austria, France, Germany, Hungary, Israel, the Netherlands, Poland, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom, as well as in the U.S. states of Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Texas. In total, 16 states have mandatory Holocaust education.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_requiring_teaching_of_the_Holocaust

I doubt that the teaching of the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans, US concentration camps for American citizens of Japanese heritage during WWII, etc. are mandated by law in most of those US states!!!

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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2021, 10:41:23 pm »
Good takedown:

https://news.yahoo.com/condoleezza-rice-crt-stance-proves-222000707.html

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Condoleezza Rice’s recent appearance on The View was offensive and disgusting for many reasons but she was who we thought she was: a soldier for white supremacy. Her thoughts on Critical Race Theory are completely white centric, as in, they revolve around the thoughts and needs of white people.

Her primary argument against Critical Race Theory is that history should not be taught in a way that makes white kids feel bad. What? We should whitewash U.S. history to protect the feelings of white children? Excuse me, I misspoke — we should whitewash U.S. history even more than we already do in order to protect the feelings of white children?


First of all, what about the feelings of Black children? What would their feelings be if they knew they were being taught a version of American history that was distorted to protect white kids? What message does that send to them? And what about the feelings they have when learning about the real American history?

Also this — white children and adults should absolutely feel bad about the past atrocities committed by white Americans. They should feel guilty. They should cringe at what their ancestors did. They should also understand that modern white power is directly related to those atrocities. White people gained economic and institutional advantages from slavery and segregation and the long-term subjugation of Black people that continue to help them to this day.

White people should know that American history is rated X and their relatives are the one who Black people had to fear. They didn’t arrive and have a nice dinner with the natives and buy Manhattan for a few trinkets.

The Europeans who settled early America made treaties with American Indians and then violated those treaties and slaughtered the natives as rapidly as possible. They didn’t merely own slaves and treat them kindly. They had a cruel and peculiar institution that kidnapped and human trafficked and then beat and raped and subjugated humans for generations.

Slavery was far more cruel and frightening than most people even know unless you read diaries written by former slaves. And the past is not done with us — slavery created the economy and the wealth that led to America becoming a global economic power. You didn’t have to own slaves in order to participate in that wealth-building but all of the wealth derived from it went to white people and was thus stolen from Black people.

American history is a series of cycles where white people grow more powerful because of the legalized oppression of Black people. American history is a series of stories where white people knock us down and stand on our necks and then ask why we’re on the ground. If we don’t know history we don’t understand reality and how it was constructed. I really don’t care if learning this makes white kids feel bad — and if it doesn’t then they are too heartless.
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Our classrooms should not be another example of white privilege, they should reflect the ugly reality of American history. But really the whole discussion is bizarre — we are debating about whether we should teach our children real American history or if we should lie to them and protect their fragile white hearts.

I cannot accept a country that contorts itself to avoid causing white pain. I’m not here to help comfort white people. And Lord knows I am never, ever going to center them.

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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2021, 09:28:41 pm »
https://www.timesofisrael.com/swedish-agency-suggests-exercise-in-which-students-argue-holocaust-didnt-happen/

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JTA — Sweden’s National Agency for Education recommended that teachers should make students try to prove that the Holocaust never happened, as part of a push to help them understand conspiracy theories.

The recommendation came in a recently published handbook for high school teachers that the government’s institution in charge of scholastic issues had created, the Aftonbladet daily reported earlier this month.

“Group 1 must find at least three arguments for the case that the Holocaust never happened, using facts and information from the internet. They can also ask others what they believe and why,” the suggested exercise read.

Only one argument is necessary: why do there exist laws criminalizing investigation about whether or not any "Holocaust" happened, if it really did happen? Trump claims he won the 2020 election but had it stolen from him by election fraud. We, despite hating Trump, do not call for criminalizing investigation into the 2020 election, because we know the more audits are done, the more it will be proven beyond any doubt that no fraud occurred, and that he lost! So, if the alleged "Holocaust" really did happen, Jews should want us to investigate it as much as possible, since the more we investigate it, the more we will prove it did happen! So, given that in reality Jews don't want us to investigate it, what can we deduce about it?

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Sweden’s Jewish Central Council and other critics said asking students to consume and engage in Holocaust denial is offensive to victims and has questionable pedagogical value.

“Even if it is well-intentioned, there is a danger in calling the Holocaust controversial,” Aron Verständig, chairman of Sweden’s Jewish Central Council, told Aftonbladet. He called the exercise “bizarre.”

Yes, the danger is that the truth will come out.

Who else is against this idea?

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Björn Söder, a member of the Sweden Democrats party, a populist right-wing movement, queried Education Minister Anna Ekström on the subject, asking her to explain how the exercise fits into the government’s policy of opposing antisemitism.

Of course!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/sd/

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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2021, 12:50:05 pm »
And it's as simple as that isn't it. If it really did happen as Jews claim it did then why fear investigation? "The truth does not fear investigation" at all, ever! On another note, treachery and deception has been taking place since the dawn of civilization but Jews are completely incapable of it of course because the "chosen people" are perfect, this is why they're so pretty on the outside and on the inside and all non-Jewish women want to sleep with them! (Even though those women are often prostitutes!)




(When's the last time Ron washed those pants and T-shirt I cannot help but wonder?)

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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2021, 09:24:59 pm »
A small passive defensive victory:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/westminster-school-pulls-china-communist-203326340.html

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Westminster School is to pull the plug on its China operation after a new Communist Party ruling stipulated that all lesson plans must be approved by Beijing.

The school unveiled its plans in 2017 to set up a sister institution bearing its name in Chengdu in China’s Sichuan province.

But on Tuesday, Westminster’s chairman of governors told parents that this project has now been axed following “recent changes in Chinese education policy”.

Earlier this year it emerged that British-branded private schools in China will be forced to abandon their curricula and teach only lessons approved by Beijing as part of a broader push led by president Xi Jinping to ensure the “right” thinking.

The new regulations mean that international schools must now teach the same lessons as China’s state-run public schools from kindergarten to grade nine.
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Stephen Spriggs, the managing director at the consultancy firm William Clarence Education, said: “There was always a risk with schools viewing China as the land paved with gold. You are liable to a change in their government’s policy.”

He said he suspects more British schools will pull out of China and instead target more “politically stable” countries.

"Politically stable" = academically colonized. Why should any country formerly colonized by Britain (or any other Western colonial power) tolerate British (or any other Western) schools, which were first introduced as a consequence of colonization?

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Some of the country’s leading private schools have set up campuses in the Far East over the past decade.

The £42,630-a-year Wellington College has five schools in China and one in Thailand. It set up its first overseas school – Wellington College International Tianjin – a decade ago.

Meanwhile, Harrow School runs 11 schools in China, Hong Kong, Japan, Indonesia and Thailand. North London Collegiate School has a satellite campus in South Korea, Dubai and Singapore.

Genuinely decolonized peoples would burn them all down. (I understand we are still far from reaching this point.) Beyond this, the local curricula themselves need to remove their own Western content (of which there is plenty). Above all, compulsory schooling itself (also a Western institution introduced during colonization) must end.

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Most private schools use a “franchise” model, where an investor or management company pays the school a fixed amount each year – similar to a royalty – in order to use their name, brand or expertise.

Under this model, the British “mothership” school is often paid a percentage of the school fees each year, on top of the franchise fee.

Burning them all down would save far more money than it costs to keep them around!

The mothership schools ultimately need the same treatment also. For this we depend on:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/operation-gaddafi/
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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2021, 02:17:22 pm »
WNs who complain about ethnic bias in college acceptance rates never bring up stuff like this. 1/3 of the "white" applicants to Harvard would have been rejected based on merit alone.

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We use public documents from the Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard University lawsuit to examine admissions preferences for recruited athletes, legacies, those on the dean’s interest list, and children of faculty and staff (ALDCs). More than 43% of white admits are ALDC; the share for African American, Asian American, and Hispanics is less than 16%. Our model of admissions shows that roughly three-quarters of white ALDC admits would have been rejected absent their ALDC status. Removing preferences for athletes and legacies would significantly alter the racial distribution of admitted students away from whites.
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/713744

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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2021, 09:28:05 pm »
Do not fall for paleocon tricks:

https://www.amren.com/commentary/2021/11/racial-separation-fred-reed/

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Many object that the study of mathematics constitutes racism, or is a means of oppressing blacks. Why force math on blacks or, more importantly, prevent white kids from learning them?

I am against forcing math on anyone! But our enemies obviously actually think math is a good thing to learn, which is why they don't want "blacks" learning it but do want "whites" learning it (as is evident from the very wording of their rhetorical question). The reason why they think math is a good thing to learn is because it can be applied to inventing new machines that enable their users to gain a military advantage over those who do not possess them. To put it in our enemies' way, "whites" learning math (even voluntarily) in effect forces "blacks" to also learn math (despite originally not wanting to) just to avoid being militarily outclassed!

As a general rule, being the first to learn anything that can increase the worldly power of the learner's tribe is initiated violence, as it forces everyone else to learn the same thing and apply it the same way just in order to defend themselves.

This is why it is an ethical duty to restrict math learning for everyone (regardless of ethnic background). Those who want to study advanced math for spiritual reasons should be allowed to do so, but only inside a concentration camp (in which they will have to stay for the rest of their lives) with no resources available for building machines and no communication with the outside world, so that whatever they learn will never be applied for power. Furthermore, they should be prohibited from reproducing.

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Forcing kids of IQ 140 or better to agonize in classes at the level of “Mommy Beaver had two sticks and Daddy Beaver had two, how many did they have in all” is child abuse.

No kids (regardless of IQ test scores) should be forced to attend any classes! But that's not what our enemies want. They want "white" budding machinists learning as much as they can so they can build as many machines as possible to aid "white" domination over "non-whites".

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I don’t want my children wearing their pants below their knees and saying “muggafugga” every second word. These practices do no actual harm, but are extremely disagreeable to most whites.

This sounds conciliatory (and thanks for acknowledging the harmlessness of these practices), but now watch for the paleocon trick:

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While I do not want to dictate the culture of blacks — it isn’t my business — neither do I want them transgressing mine.

The difference is that Western civilization does A LOT OF actual harm, including to those who do not practice it:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/

So we have an ethical duty to transgress your culture. Western civilization must die.

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Would not separation be the comfortable solution?

No. Living among you, we at least have a chance of slowing you down by demographic friction. Separate, and you will soon be doing even more harm than you already are, and we will have even less chance of stopping you (short of being forced to copy your methods to defeat you and thus adding more harm still).

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/
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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2021, 08:46:09 pm »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10301209/New-Zealand-academic-got-CANCELLED-condemned-plan-teach-Maori-beliefs-science-classes.html

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Fury has erupted after academics in New Zealand were threatened with expulsion from the Royal Society for criticising plans that would see Maori knowledge added to the school curriculum.

Current and former professors at the University of Auckland wrote a letter to the editor of the New Zealand Listener criticising a government working group's plans to give the same weight to Maori mythology as they do to science in the classroom.

The letter was signed by seven professors, including Garth Cooper, a professor of biochemistry and clinical biochemistry at the University of Auckland.

Did Maori mythology lead to this?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/

No, Western science did. So, if anything, a better question should be why Western science should continue to be taught compulsorily at all!

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After the letter was published in July, the Royal Society of New Zealand received complaints from five members demanding disciplinary action against three society fellows: Professor Cooper, philosopher Robert Nola, and psychologist Michael Corballis. Mr Corballis died suddenly last month.

One down, six to go! Bullets can speed up the process!

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The authors of the letter argued they were exercising their rights under New Zealand’s Education Act, which allows academics and students freedom to 'state controversial or unpopular opinions' as well as 'question and test received wisdom'.

I fully support the letter being published. I am merely saying it is not the concern of the state to shield the authors from consequences enacted by other private entities after the letter is published.

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Columnist Rod Liddle, writing in today's Sunday Times, called the reaction to the professor's letter 'madness and stupidity'.

No, this is madness and stupidity:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/progressive-yahwism/

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Commentator Toby Young argued the government working group's plans would give Maori schoolchildren 'even greater disadvantage if their teachers patronise them by saying there’s no need to learn the rudiments of scientific knowledge'.

The only reason why we do need to learn Western science for now is to be on equal footing with our enemies who also learn Western science (but with the aim of perpetuating it). Once our enemies are destroyed, we should immediately cease learning Western science, or else we become Westerners ourselves.

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Writing in the Spectator, he added: 'The moment this letter was published all hell broke loose.

'The views of the authors, who were all professors at Auckland, were denounced by the Royal Society, the New Zealand Association of Scientists, and the Tertiary Education Union — as well as their own Vice-Chancellor, Dawn Freshwater. In a hand-wringing, cry-bullying email to all staff at the university, she said the letter had ‘caused considerable hurt and dismay among our staff, students and alumni’.

The hurt caused by the letter is nothing compared to the hurt caused by Western science itself over the last several centuries, which itself it nothing compared to the hurt that will be caused by Western science in the future if not stopped:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/

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« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2022, 11:18:23 pm »
The more our enemies complain, the more they make our case for us:

https://www.unz.com/freed/blackness-fatigue-enough-is-too-much/

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Consider: Math curricula are being dumbed down because blacks do poorly at math, English grammar instruction eliminated because blacks can’t or won’t learn it, entrance exams for the elite and demanding high schools eliminated because blacks don’t pass them, SATs dropped because blacks score poorly on them, promotion exams in police departments eliminated because blacks don’t pass them. Entrance requirements at medical school are lowered because not enough blacks pass them, AP courses in high school eliminated because too few blacks get into them.

If only all this had happened before the Industrial Revolution. How much better a place would the world be today!

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Dangerously, the government forbids white parents to have schools teaching what they regard as desirable material at what they regard as acceptable academic levels while requiring what they regard as civilized behavior.

This was allowed for centuries, and look what happened as a result:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/canada-residential-schools/

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White parents are forced to see their children subjected to what they regard as obscene, semiliterate, violent, stupid, a culture dominated by what seems to them, (and would to any First World country) the opposite of cultivation.

Why should we trust the judgement of First World countries?



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When parents whose daughter wants to go into electronic engineering see her forced into pseudo math taught by teachers who couldn’t recognize a partial derivative if it spoke to them in tongues, when she ought to be in AP calculus, they are not happy.

Calculus was never supposed to have been invented. We lived simple lives for millennia without calculus. Just a few centuries on from the invention of calculus, the whole world has been transformed beyond recognition into a machine dump.

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blacks have provided the throw-weight for the promulgation of peasantry.

"Peasantry" is not a negative term.

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« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2022, 09:31:15 pm »
https://twitter.com/KelleyAshbyPaul/status/1509213285840740356?s=20&t=yKTjsNfyxSFNg0MpYGnNoA
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Chinese third graders are learning multi-variable calculus.  Our third graders are being taught that “men can have babies.”  This will not end well.

Which is more dangerous? More importantly, which one strengthens Western Civilization the most.

« Last Edit: April 04, 2022, 10:53:57 pm by rp »