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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #285 on: August 23, 2023, 12:36:25 pm »
Xie keeps trying:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/same-boat-chinese-envoy-xie-093000294.html

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Chinese ambassador to the United States Xie Feng on Tuesday highlighted the need to "overcome difficulties together in the same boat" as he set the tone and agenda for US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo's official visit to China.

He demanded the US "pay high attention" to the Chinese stance on bilateral commercial issues and raised hopes that both sides could expand areas of cooperation and "shorten the negative list", according to an embassy readout.
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Xie told Raimondo that "the world today is full of changes and chaos while the world economy faces a weak recovery and unpredictable crises in multiple aspects".

"As China and the US belong to the same planet and share the same blue sky, we are in the same boat and are not immune [to the situation]. We should not harm each other for the benefit of one side but should overcome difficulties together,"

A picture of the first difficulty that China and the US should overcome together:



As long as Xie does not explicitly include this proposition, his efforts are unlikely to yield significant results.
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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #286 on: August 23, 2023, 01:12:25 pm »
BRICS: A counterweight to western-led G7 group of leading democracies? | DW News
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Leaders of the BRICS group of nations are meeting in Johannesburg. Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa are home to 40 percent of the world's population. President Putin is not there, though. Russia is being represented by foreign minister Sergey Lavrov, since Mr. Putin is subject to an international arrest warrant for war crimes related to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
BRICS leaders will discuss a possible expansion of the five-nation bloc. Some observers believe China is keen to develop a global counterweight to the western-led G7 group of leading democracies.

00:00 Putin not at BRICS summit due to Ukraine war
01:30 China pushes for BRICS expansion

Ali Wyne is a senior analyst, focusing on US-China relations for Eurasia Group's Global Macro-Geopolitics practice. Professor Oliver Stunkel is a political analyst at the School of International Relations in Săo Paulo, Brazil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvxImAkVpvg

Gravitas: Biden's Charm Offensive: US Courts India Amid China's BRICS Power Play
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The upcoming G20 New Delhi Summit assumes extraordinary significance as leaders from across the world converge in the midst of shifting power dynamics, notably amid a new Cold War between China and the USA. India, emerging as a powerhouse, takes center stage in this high-stakes international gathering. U.S. President Joe Biden, who will visit India next month to take part in the summit, has called India his "most important country in the world." Molly Gambhir tells you more

#modi #biden #xijinping #gravitas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84vwhYg4Qc

Putin speaks to BRICS group in video message on 2nd meeting day | DW News
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Leaders of the BRICS group of nations are into their second day of meetings in Johannesburg. They're using the summit to demand changes to international institutions.

The heads of government of Brazil, China, South Africa and India, as well as Russia's foreign minister, are talking about expanding the bloc and using a currency other than the US dollar, to reduce western economic dominance. The group has set itself the goal of increasing the political weight of countries from the global south in international affairs.

Russian President Vladimir Putin is not present in Johannesburg but he is taking part in the summit by video link. In an address to the delegates, he said Russia wants to end the war that has been "unleashed by the West and its satellites in Ukraine".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QY6U64wjZE
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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #287 on: September 10, 2023, 07:20:38 pm »
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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #288 on: September 10, 2023, 08:04:11 pm »
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‘I don’t want to contain China,’ Biden says in Beijing’s backyard
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And he repeated that phrase — again and again.

“I don’t want to contain China,” he said during a news conference in Hanoi shortly after elevating the U.S.-Vietnam relationship and palling around with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. “We’re not trying to hurt China.”

Contrast with:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nikki-haley-says-she-views-151214599.html

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Nikki Haley says she views China ‘as an enemy’ in pointed rebuke

Is China paying attention to the difference between Red and Blue attitudes?
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« Reply #289 on: September 17, 2023, 07:03:42 pm »
US, Chinese officials secretly meet in Malta | NewsNation Prime
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The White House said National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan and Chinese envoy Wang Yi had “candid, substantive and constructive discussions” over the past two days on the Mediterranean island nation of Malta. The Biden administration says the meeting was intended to “responsibly maintain the relationship” with China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqYC2SWD48w
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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #290 on: September 17, 2023, 09:37:48 pm »
Quote from: 90sRetroFan on September 10, 2023, 08:04:11 pm
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‘I don’t want to contain China,’ Biden says in Beijing’s backyard
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And he repeated that phrase — again and again.

“I don’t want to contain China,” he said during a news conference in Hanoi shortly after elevating the U.S.-Vietnam relationship and palling around with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. “We’re not trying to hurt China.”

Contrast with:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nikki-haley-says-she-views-151214599.html

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Nikki Haley says she views China ‘as an enemy’ in pointed rebuke

Is China paying attention to the difference between Red and Blue attitudes?

India should also be given credit for the improvement IMO. PM Modi, while voicing concerns about the border dispute, has not acquiesced to the demands of some Westerners in the U.S. who want him to "take on" China. But he has also maintained good relations with Biden. This signals to the U.S. that they cannot rely on India as an anti-China "partner", and hence must rely on themselves alone to take on China. But they recognize this is unfeasible so they have come around to admitting that they do not want to take on China after all.
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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #291 on: September 19, 2023, 04:23:01 pm »
I have repeatedly explained that good US-China relations depend on identifying common historical enemies of both countries. I have also repeatedly stated who those enemies are:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg14900/?topicseen#msg14900

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This became an especially important concern for the People's Republic of China after the Sino-Soviet border conflict of 1969. The PRC was diplomatically isolated and the leadership came to believe that improved relations with the United States would be a useful counterbalance to the Soviet threat.

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Both China and the United States backed combatants in Africa against Soviet and Cuban-supported movements.

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US-China military cooperation began in 1979; American arms sales to China were initiated, and in 1981 it was revealed that a joint US-China listening post had been operated in Xinjiang, near the Soviet border.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg11575/?topicseen#msg11575

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"Fifty years ago, the USSR was a common threat that brought us together.

or even:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg2676/?topicseen#msg2676

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The correct approach, of course, is for the US to take this opportunity to openly side with China against Australia. If the US were willing to do this, I guarantee it could win over China to a new vision of cooperation.

But will Biden do this? Of course not. Biden is still stuck in the False Left mentality that the US is less close to China, a fellow former victim of colonization by two of the same colonial powers:

1)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_colonization_of_the_Americas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Hong_Kong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Weihaiwei

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concessions_in_Tianjin#British_concession_(1860%E2%80%931943)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiujiang#History

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenjiang#History

etc.

2)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_colonization_of_the_Americas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_French_Concession

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concessions_in_Tianjin#French_concession

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhouwan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hankou#Foreign_concessions_period

etc.

than to Australia, a country whose head of state is the same as that of America's main former colonizer:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II

and whose flag:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Australia

includes the very same colonialist insignia that America literally fought its Revolutionary War to remove from American soil FFS:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

Finally, Xi shows signs of understanding my approach! But here is his version of it (warning: you cannot make this **** up):

https://www.yahoo.com/news/xi-says-china-us-must-053929256.html

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Xi said the people of China and the United States had shared the same enemy in their fight against Japan



Eurocentrist Xi's Eurocentric First Eurocentric Law of Eurocentrism: if China and the US must have a common enemy, it can only be a "non-white" country.
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