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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2021, 11:52:59 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/europe-becoming-wing-continent-120428970.html

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For a certain kind of American liberal, it's almost a reflexive gesture to wish the United States were more like Europe.

False Leftists (especially social democrats) only.

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I wonder how it will feel when Europe becomes distinctly more right-wing than the United States.

It's not an inconceivable prospect. The United Kingdom has a Tory government right now, and based on current polling their position looks increasingly secure. France's centrist president Emmanuel Macron would likely be re-elected if the election were held today, but Marine Le Pen's right-wing National Rally party polls considerably higher today in a one-on-one contest with Macron than it did in 2017. Italy's fragile coalition could be followed by a right-wing coalition of Matteo Salvini's Lega and the neofascist-derived Fratelli D'Italia.
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the overall political climate in Europe has been trending rightward for some time. After the financial crisis, and the austerity that followed, the traditional left-wing parties began to collapse, and more nationalist and extreme-right alternatives to the mainstream — the AfD in Germany, National Rally in France, UKIP in England — began to arise. The surge in immigration that followed Syria's and Libya's collapse into civil war were further sources of fuel. These parties and movements — critical of the European Union, strongly opposed to immigration, frequently more friendly to Russia — were initially and in many cases still are opposed by all the mainstream parties, but that opposition did little to stem their growth. Eventually, in countries like Hungary and Poland, they began to win elections and assume the powers of government.

This is what we have been warning about for a decade, and what Dugin has been scheming towards for longer.

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In Europe today, the most viable traditional parties are often mainstream right-wing parties that have sought to coopt the nationalist right's issues — most notably Boris Johnson's Tory Party, which eclipsed UKIP by adopting Brexit for itself — or parties self-consciously constituted around the technocratic center so as to unite the mainstream against the far right. True left-wing parties like Jean-Luc Mélenchon's in France or Jeremy Corbyn's Labour have largely fizzled. Meanwhile, the far right continues to produce new phenomena, most recently France's Eric Zemmour, who has outflanked Le Pen on the right by being even more nationalist than she is.

We predicted this too.

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Nothing is more useful for promoting national unity than a foreign threat. And while America's foreign policy establishment would likely prefer that China be that threat, it makes far more sense for a Europe turning inward to decry pernicious American influence on their social fabric than China's threats to Taiwan or its oppression of the Uyghur people.

It would make just as much sense for an America turning non-Western to decry Western influence on its social fabric (and even encourage China to do the same, so that America and China become allies against Western civilization).

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The question then would be whether America's left will take a lesson from the demise of their European cousins, and rethink their own approach to politics before they face a similar eclipse, and downgrade cultural questions in favor of bread and butter issues. Or, perhaps, whether Europe's turn to the right will inspire America's left to see unique promise once more in our own country's distance from nationalism of the Old World, and redefine their own vision of a culturally egalitarian future not as a necessary redemption of our nation's sinful history, but as a hoped-for fulfillment of distinctively American promise.

We need the latter. Except:

1) What is happening across the Atlantic is identitarianism, not "nationalism". It is America by rejecting identitarianism which will demonstrate nationalism.

2) We do not want a "culturally egalitarian" future. We want a future which sees Western civilization as the most inferior civilization known to all of history, which logically first requires rejection of egalitarianism in order that any judgement of inferiority be possible. Western civilization is to blame for the historical evils perpetrated by the US. Redemption requires becoming anti-Western. Egalitarianism, which means considering Western civilization neither better nor worse than other civilizations, falls far short of what is needed for redemption. What we want is a culturally anti-Western future.

3) The fulfillment of America's promise is to use the US military to defeat all countries which refuse to surrender to:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/operation-gaddafi/

As I always say, it is the highest poetic justice to unleash the full destuctive power of modern weaponry upon the civilization which brought it into existence in the first place.
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