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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2021, 12:26:09 pm »
Be careful! Nathan Rich (Jew) is not on our side either. He is part of the contingent of Jews trying to infiltrate China, which is expected to accelerate as the US declines economically. His role is to create the impression that Jews are the ones helpfully warning China about the Sinophobes. We need to get in front of them and warn China about Jews!

Interesting. I had initially posted another video from him about the medias comparison in regards to the Hong Kong terrorists and the Capitol Hill terrorists after I had only made it a third of the way through that video. By the time I got halfway through my gut feeling that something wasn't quite right with that guy arose....

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« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2021, 03:22:42 pm »
Pompeo Voids Restrictions On Diplomatic Contacts With Taiwan
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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has announced that the State Department is voiding longstanding restrictions on how US diplomats and others have contact with their counterparts in Taiwan, another move that is expected to upset China as the Trump administration winds to an end.


China slams US over revival of Taiwan relations
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China's state media have criticised the United States for ending decades of restrictions on official contact with Taiwan.
It has accused Secretary of State Mike Pompeo of trying to "inflict a long-lasting scar on China-US ties".
The move has angered Beijing because it considers Taiwan as its territory.

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« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2021, 12:42:15 pm »
China debunks Western media's allegations of forced labor in Xinjiang


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Discover China探索中国
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Western countries love Chinese muslims but they don’t like muslims in Middle East countries at all, which fully shows their double standards
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Hammad Sethi
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What they have done in Syria, Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan is far worse than anything China would do.
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李昭
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Again, the western media likes neither China nor Muslims, but it likes Chinese Muslims so much

Westerners have never cared much in regards to how offensive their ridiculousness can actually be....

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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2021, 03:41:13 am »
"Be careful! Nathan Rich (Jew) is not on our side either. He is part of the contingent of Jews trying to infiltrate China, which is expected to accelerate as the US declines economically. His role is to create the impression that Jews are the ones helpfully warning China about the Sinophobes. We need to get in front of them and warn China about Jews!"

I did not know Rich was Jewish. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Hereafter I will put him in the same camp as Dan Cohen (Jew) and Max Blumenthal (Jew).

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« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2021, 12:07:21 pm »
Telling the Truth About the Communist Party
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Secretary Pompeo to the Voice of America: You’ve told everyone who will listen...the truth about the Chinese Communist Party's atrocities against its own people in Xinjiang – the stain of the century.


As if Pompeo cares about the Chinese people and non-"white" lives. Why is the U.S. State Department allowing this sedition supporter to talk to people?

Reminder:
Pompeo: There will be 'smooth transition' to 'second' Trump term
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U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Tuesday the world should have every confidence in a post-election transition in the United States and that "there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration."
https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idOVD3ZQ4M7

As if Pompeo has ever cared about the truth either. Note the chutzpah of Pompeo speaking on a "stain of the century" and not looking in a mirror when he says it....

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« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2021, 11:25:42 pm »
LIVE: How China Won Trump’s Trade War and Got Americans to Foot the Bill
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(Jan. 13) U.S. President Donald Trump famously tweeted that “trade wars are good, and easy to win” in 2018 as he began to impose tariffs on about $360 billion of imports from China. Turns out he was wrong on both counts.

Even before the coronavirus infected millions of Americans and sparked the steepest economic downturn since the Great Depression, China was withstanding Trump’s tariff salvos, according to the very metrics he used to justify them. Once China got the virus under control, demand for medical equipment and work-from-home gear expanded its trade surplus with the U.S. despite the levies.

While trade tensions between the world’s two biggest economic powers didn’t start under Trump, he broadened the fight with the unprecedented tariffs and sanctions on technology companies. The tougher approach, according to the scorecard that follows, didn’t go as he hoped. But he’s leaving his successor Joe Biden a blueprint of what worked and what didn’t.

“China is too big and too important to the world economy to think that you can cut it out like a paper doll” said Mary Lovely, an economics professor at Syracuse University. “The Trump administration had a wake-up call.”

The U.S. Trade Deficit Grew
Trump vowed in his 2016 election year to very quickly “start reversing” the U.S. goods trade deficit with China, ignoring mainstream economists who downplay the importance of bilateral deficits. However, the deficit with China increased since then, hitting $287 billion in the 11 months to November last year, according to Chinese data.

The deficit did fall year-on-year in 2019, as U.S. companies switched to imports from countries like Vietnam, but it remained higher than the $254 billion gap in 2016. That was partly because Beijing’s imposition of retaliatory tariffs on about $110 billion in goods reduced its imports of American products, and these only started recovering in the last few months of 2020.

As part of the phase-one trade deal signed a year ago, Beijing made an ambitious vow to import $172 billion worth of U.S. goods in specific categories in 2020, but through the end of November it had bought just 51% of that goal. The slump in energy prices amid the pandemic and the problems with Boeing Co.’s planes played a part in that failure.

The persistent deficit demonstrated how reliant companies are on China’s vast manufacturing capacity, which was highlighted again by the pandemic. China was the only country capable of increasing output on a big enough scale to meet surging demand for goods such as work-from-home computers and medical equipment.

President Xi Jinping expressed his confidence in China’s rise Monday, telling officials that “time and the situation are in our favor.” The Chinese leader said that he saw “opportunities in general outweighing challenges,” a marked shift from his sometimes dire-sounding warnings of recent months.

China’s Export Machine Rolls On
Trump repeatedly said that China’s accession to the World Trade Organization in 2001 caused its economy to take off like a “rocket ship,” a result he viewed as unfair. As it turned out, Trump’s trade war with China coincided with another expansion in Chinese exports. After shrinking for two straight years in 2015 and 2016, China’s total shipments grew each year after Trump took office, including in 2019 when exports to the U.S. fell.

A group of 10 Southeast Asian nations replaced the U.S. as China’s second-largest trading partner in 2019. The shift to Asia is likely to continue as Southeast Asian economies are projected to grow faster than developed countries over the next decade. Those trade links will be further cemented by the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership pact signed late last year, which will see 15 regional economies gradually drop some tariffs on each others’ goods.




Want to make sure your imagined opponents do everything in their power to fool you in a deal? Have the hubris to write a book titled: The Art of the Deal  ;) ;D

Such an amazing business man!!!

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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #81 on: January 14, 2021, 03:08:45 am »


This video looks at the issue from the perspective of Russia's choices, concluding with the advice that, given Russia's relationship with China will surely not last, Russia should leave itself a way to partner with the US in future.

But from our perspective, while agreeing with the predictions of the video, the US should be getting ready replace Russia as China's partner, thereby leaving Russia without a partner outside of Turandom. I have actually been thinking about the content of the potential partnership that the US could have with China. Many China analysts agree that, even after China takes over from the US as the new world leader, it is extremely unlikely to involve itself in military conflicts outside of its own region, which could create a dangerous power vaccuum. Therefore I envision that the US could simply continue in this role of military interventionism that it has already defined for itself despite economic decline, so long as China can be convinced to adopt the view that such a role must be filled by someone (hence so long as China itself does not want this role, it should endorse (to the extent of providing economic support for) the US keeping it). In order for this to happen, the US must by then have become a fully ideologically American (ie. de-Westernized) country whose military targets will be primarily Turandom countries.
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« Reply #82 on: January 19, 2021, 11:47:36 pm »
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The U.S. on Tuesday became the first country to declare that China's actions toward its Uyghur population and other ethnic minorities in the northwestern Xinjiang region constitute a 'genocide.' It is expected to be the Trump admin's final action regarding China, culminating four years of marked international tensions between both countries and creating a new set of opportunities and challenges for the incoming Biden administration. Biden similarly referred to China's treatment of Uyghur populations as 'genocide' on the campaign trail.It's possible the new Biden admin will pursue additional sanctions on China as a result of this finding.
In recent years, an estimated 1-2 million Uyghurs in China's Xinjiang region have allegedly faced forcible relocation to internment, or re-education, camps. Many have also allegedly been subjected to practices like forced sterilization, food & sleep deprivation, and more. The Chinese government has disputed these accusations, with one official recently calling claims of genocide an 'utterly untethered fabrication.'
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugyl9ncMhgRuZWAalOd4AaABCQ


Compare:
3 years later, US pressed to declare Rohingya crisis 'genocide,' hold Myanmar accountable
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Three years ago, Myanmar's military escalated its persecution of the Rohingya -- a mostly-Muslim ethnic minority -- with a sustained, violent campaign of murder, **** and beatings that cleared hundreds of thousands from their land and burned their villages to the ground.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/years-us-pressed-declare-rohingya-crisis-genocide-hold/story?id=72522830

Does the U.S. really care about Muslims?

Could you people please stop embarrassing good decent people with your ridiculous lies, just for once? 

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Is China changing its strategy towards decoupling from the world economy?
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China's trade balance after exports grew to 535 billion US dollars in 2020, lifting its surplus to a five year high. That, despite the coronavirus pandemic and a trade war with the United States. In December, exports surged 18% on the previous year. Supply problems elsewhere helped boosted demand for Chinese goods. China's robust recovery also drove domestic consumption of foreign products with imports also beating expectations.

A report just released by the European Chamber in China implies that the Asian powerhouse has long managed its interdependence with the world economy in a highly strategic and limited manner. What does this mean for foreign companies operating there?


Ultimately, nations being self-sufficient and not interdependent is the only way to ensure there is not a clash of civilizations over resources. This should coincide with putting a cap on the global human population. Anything short of that spells disaster in the long run. Anyone who cannot accept these facts should be kept out of foreign policy circles. Only an idiot and a barbarian would eat and drink themselves out of house and home and then start stealing from their neighbors:




See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/antropocentricism-the-most-dangerous-ideology-in-the-world/

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« Reply #84 on: January 20, 2021, 01:09:22 am »
At least China had a good comeback this time:


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"nations being self-sufficient and not interdependent is the only way to ensure there is not a clash of civilizations over resources."

Immediately before the colonial era began, the Western countries that were to become colonial powers were largely self-sufficient. Colonialism still happened.

Self-sufficiency does not ensure absence of conflict. It only makes it harder for the aggressor to pretend to be retaliating. For example, if X purchases food from Y, X can hide the food it bought and then claim that Y did not deliver it, hence setting up an excuse to invade Y in 'retaliation' for 'trying to starve X'. But if X produces all its own food, X cannot frame Y for trying to starve itself. That is all.

In other words, there will still be conflict, but merely less room for dishonesty over what the conflict is about.

A clash of civilizations is still on the table, such as between those (Westerners, esp. Musk) who think humans must settle outer space no  matter what and those (anti-Westerners) who think humans must not settle outer space no matter what.
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« Reply #86 on: January 20, 2021, 01:41:02 am »
"baby-making machines"

It's like the official "Islam" doctrine in Xinjiang had been corrupted since before annexation by China.

And the counterpart of Tibet Government-in-Exile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Turkistan_Government-in-Exile

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« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2021, 01:47:05 am »
China-U.S. way ahead: Confrontation or cooperation?
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While the new U.S. administration carries out a raft of policy changes, its position on China remains unclear. It takes two to tango - as they say - there's hope both countries could help each other navigate choppy waters. So looking ahead, how could China-U.S. relations shift under the Biden administration? Would the new U.S. president take an entirely different posture toward China? Answers to these questions will not only have critical consequences for the two countries, but for the broader international community as well. On that, Tian Wei talked to Stephen Orlins, the president of the National Committee on U.S.-China Relations, who has worked on and studied China for nearly 40 years. #China​ #US


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愛國愛港網上宣傳平台[國際]
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Hope China-US relations will improve in the future 
Since a good bilateral relation will surely benefit the two countries and economic recovery of the whole world
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Gilles Milaire
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America is a toxic country and therefore untrustworthy, Steve Orlins seems more rational than most Americans. I don't see that China can do that much when dealing with an irrational failing state such as America, every time that China puts it's best foot forward the Americans will step on it and then ask that China back up, dishonest and irresponsible is the way the Americans operate.
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In reality , the US and Endia do not want to see a rising China .
Their malicious contemptuous conspiracy towards China would remain the same .

On the other hand , if Trump and his incapacitated trade war couldn't stop China's ascension , then nothing will

Come on , you know it's TRUE

Have a nice day
Sincerely from the AWESOME revolution
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China and rest of non Western World : we want cooperation for peace, stability and poverty alleviation
US : we want confrontation to keep our elites richer

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« Reply #88 on: January 30, 2021, 01:56:35 am »
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America is a toxic country and therefore untrustworthy

No, Western civilization is a toxic civilization and therefore untrustworthy. America can be trusted if it successfully de-Westernizes.

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every time that China puts it's best foot forward the Americans will step on it and then ask that China back up,

Those are not Americans, but Westerners.

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China and rest of non Western World : we want cooperation for peace, stability and poverty alleviation
US : we want confrontation to keep our elites richer

Confront the former Western colonial powers instead! That is something the non-Western world should be glad to cooperate on! (No justice, no peace!) Better yet, confront Israel!

https://us.yahoo.com/news/nbc-walks-back-report-biden-163609603.html
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« Reply #89 on: January 30, 2021, 09:30:42 pm »
The Militarization of the South China Sea
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Tensions between the U.S. and China have been steadily escalating on a range of issues, but there’s one place where a clash of superpowers would be most likely to happen: the South China Sea. Even with a new U.S. president, the disagreements that led to this moment won’t be easy to resolve. So how did this body of water become a major flashpoint in U.S.-China relations?