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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2021, 11:21:17 pm »
Finally someone else has picked up on this:







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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2021, 11:40:20 pm »
I remember this article. It was literally the first thing that came up when I searched for "table manners racist" in Google. Also see earlier post in this thread regarding this topic.

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2021, 01:07:47 pm »
‘It could feed the world’: amaranth, a health trend 8,000 years old that survived colonization
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Indigenous women in North and Central America are coming together to share ancestral knowledge of amaranth, a plant booming in popularity as a health food

An elderly woman cuts an amaranth crop, in Uttarakhand, India. The plant is indigenous to North and Central America but also grown in China, India, Southeast Asia, West Africa and the Caribbean. Photograph: Hitendra Sinkar/Alamy Stock Photo
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“This is a plant that could feed the world,” said Tsosie-Peña.

For her it also has deep cultural value. She is part of growing networks of Indigenous women across North and Central America who have been sharing ancestral knowledge of how to grow and prepare amaranth. Seed exchanges, including those in New Mexico and California, are part of a larger movement to reclaim Indigenous food systems amid growing recognition of their sustainability and resilience in a time of climate crisis and industrialized agriculture.

“Supporting Indigenous people coming together to share knowledge” is vital to the land back movement, a campaign to reestablish Indigenous stewardship of Native land, and liberation of Native peoples, Tsosie-Peña said. “Our food, our ability to feed ourselves, is the foundation of our freedom and sovereignty as land-based peoples.”

This is a story of two histories: the remarkable survival of amaranth through colonization and the women like Tsosie-Peña who, in the last 20 years, have expanded networks of Indigenous people celebrating its ancient cultivation.
Entire article: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/06/ancient-grain-amaranth-food-trend-indigenous?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2021, 10:23:06 pm »
If you thought eating utensils were the only needlessly complicated aspect of Western dining, you have no idea:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut_of_beef

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$$$ indicates more expensive cuts; $ indicates less expensive cuts; $$ indicates in between.

1 Basses côtes $$$
2 Côtes, entrecôtes $$$
3 Faux-filet $$$
4 Filet $$$
5 Rumsteck $$$
6 Rond de gîte $$$
7 Tende de tranche; poire, merlan $$$
8 Gîte à la noix $$$
9 Araignée $$$
10 Plat de tranche, rond de tranche, mouvant $$$
11 Bavette d'aloyau $$$
12 Hampe $$$
13 Onglet $$$
14 Aiguillette baronne $$$
15 Bavette de flanchet $$
16 Plat de côtes $$
17 Macreuse à bifteck $$
18 Paleron $$
19 Jumeau à bifteck $$
20 Jumeau à pot-au-feu $$
21 Macreuse à pot-au-feu $$
22 Queue $
23 Gîte $
24 Flanchet $
25 Tendron, milieu de poitrine $
26 Gros bout de poitrine $
27 Collier $
28 Joue $
29 Langue $



1 Rinderhals, Kamm or Nacken (Chuck steak)
2 Querrippe (Short ribs)
3 Rinderbrust (Brisket)
4 Hochrippe or Fehlrippe (Standing rib roast)
5 Vorderrippe or hohes Roastbeef
6 Rostbraten or flaches Roastbeef
5. & 6. together are the Roastbeef or Zwischenrippenstück
7 Filet (Fillet)
8 Spannrippe or Knochendünnung
9 Dünnung or Bauchlappen (flank steak)
10 Falsches Filet, Schulter, Bug or Schaufel (shoulder)
11 Oberschale, Unterschale and Nuss
12 Flanke, Schliem or Rindfleisch
13 Hüfte mit Hüftsteak and Schwanzstück or Tafelspitz (Top sirloin))
14 Hesse or Wade (Beef shank)
15 Fricandeau
16 Schwanz or Ochsenschwanz (Oxtail)



1 Vratina
2 Hrskavi zapećak
3 Rebra
4 Pržolica (ramstek)
5 Hrbat (rozbif)
6 Hrbat (rozbif)
7 Pisana pečenka (biftek)
8 Rebra, mekana (srednja) rebra, potrbušina
9 Masna potrbušina, slabina
10 Rame (ribica), plećka (lopatica)
11 But
12 Vrh kuka
13 Zdjelica
14 Stražnja goljenica







1 karkówka
2 szponder
3 mostek
4 rozbratel
5 antrykot
6 rostbef
7 polędwica
8 szponder i mostek
9 łata
10 łopatka
11 udziec (zrazowa górna i zrazowa dolna)
12 skrzydło
13 krzyżowa
14 pręga
15 ligawa
16 ogon







1) голова, 2) шея, зарез, 3) оковалок, 4) челышко, 5) толстый край, 6) средина лопатки, 7) тонкая лопатка, рулька, 8) тонкий край, 9) от края покромка, 10) грудина, 11) тонкий филей, 12) подпашек, 13) завиток, 14) толстый филей, 15) бочок, 16) английский филей, 17) огузок, 18) средина бедра, 19) кострец, 20) ссек, подбедерок; окосток, часть ссека, с вертлюжной костью, 21) голяшка. Зачисток, от краев, от шеи, тонкие остатки, оборыши.

By the way, jigsaw puzzles are also a Western invention:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jigsaw_puzzle#History

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London engraver and cartographer John Spilsbury is believed to have produced the first jigsaw puzzle around 1760, using a marquetry saw.[1] Early puzzles, known as dissections, were produced by mounting maps on sheets of hardwood and cutting along national boundaries, creating a puzzle useful for teaching geography.[1] Royal governess Lady Charlotte Finch used such "dissected maps" to teach the children of King George III and Queen Charlotte[4][5]

This is not a coincidence. This is Western civilization.
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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2021, 11:49:34 am »
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Berlin’s university canteens go almost meat-free as students prioritise climate

The 34 outlets catering to students at four universities will offer only a single meat option four days a week

Students at universities in Berlin will from this winter swap currywurst and schnitzel for seeds and pulses, as campus canteens in the German capital make heavy cuts to their meat and fish options.

The 34 canteens and cafes catering to Berlin’s sizeable student population at four different universities will offer from October a menu that is 68% vegan, 28% vegetarian, and 2% fish-based, with a single meat option offered four days a week.
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Across Germany, university canteens and cafeterias currently offer 30-50% vegetarian options after years of rising demand, estimated Stefan Grob, a spokesperson for Deutsches Studentenwerk, the umbrella organisation of student support providers. “But in Berlin, you have a critical mass.”

In 2019, Berlin universities fed about 5.6 million meals to students in its canteens. That same year a survey found that 13.5% of Berlin’s student population described themselves as keeping a vegan diet, compared with just 1.6% in the country as a whole, while a further 33% said they were vegetarians.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/berlins-university-canteens-go-almost-meat-free-as-students-prioritise-climate

...Is the "2% fish-based" the single meat-containing dish, or are they idiots who for some reason don't think fish count as meat?

Anyway, Hitler would be proud that the time has finally come for institutions to begin phasing out meat-based diets!

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2021, 09:59:18 pm »
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68% vegan, 28% vegetarian

All vegan food is vegetarian, therefore I think what they mean is 68% vegan, 28% egg/dairy.....

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2021, 03:11:08 am »
All along, there existed in Hong Kong an almost equal proportion of restaurants offering Chinese and Western cuisine. But whereas in the old Hong Kong, Chinese restaurants were distinguished quite markedly from Western restaurants in their decor, there is sadly a present trend of Chinese restaurants adopting the Western style decor especially in the more expensive places. Typical Chinese restaurants were usually brightly lit to offer clear visage of the eatery with its happy, bubbly ambience most suitable for family and festive gatherings. Nowadays, with the influence of anti-China sentiment among those self-claimed non-Chinese Hongkongers hell bent on fighting for HK independence and western democracy, the interior designs of Chinese restaurants have turned 'western' - dimly lit if not outright candle-lit so you have to grope your way around, sometimes with mirror walls on all sides so you could imagine yourself in a maze trying hard to get to the washroom and back, and that's what they consider as either romantic or posh, the western style!   

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2021, 03:58:38 am »
"'western' - dimly lit if not outright candle-lit"

Ah, yes, that ludicrous colonial-era Western tradition: the candlelight dinner!

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Candlelight%20Dinner

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A glorified, self-inflicted power outage during which two individuals stare across an elaborately decorated table at one another and giggle in a repulsive manner while exchanging empty, flirtatious cliches. Expensive alchoholic beverages are usually consumed as well as a light, fancy meal that no one involved really notices.
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The mainstream's materialistic expression of what they call "love". People waste literally hundreds of dollars, if not thousands, on the food, the alcohol, and the special clothes (apparently, it's not cool enough to wear a t-shirt and some pants or a top and pants/skirt..People who take part in candlelight dinners must wear a suit or a dress). These are usually followed by sexual favors afterwards. To me, the whole thing is too much like prostitution. What else would you call sex for material objects, such as food?

"romantic"

This is true dining romanticism:





Only when Chinese people understand this can they be considered to be decolonizing.

Maybe I should repost the anti-gentrification topic from the old forum as well?
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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2021, 06:33:35 pm »
How 4 companies control the beef industry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_hCLjUrK1E

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2021, 11:24:43 pm »
A few days ago I ate strawberries for the first time in many years (I do not normally buy them as they are too expensive). Of course I ate them plain, which is the correct way to eat them. This reminded me of another disgusting Western habit of Turanizing strawberries:









































Why can't Western civilization ever leave anything alone FFS?!
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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2021, 09:27:17 pm »
More compulsive Turanization of food by Westerners:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tried-easy-cheesy-tiktok-hack-140400584.html

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This process started out the same as the previous recipe. I boiled a pot of water, added the entire block of noodles in, and let them cook for three minutes.

I added about a tablespoon of butter, ¼ cup of half-and-half, and a generous handful of grated Parmesan cheese to my ramen.
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This ramen had a very creamy, cheesy, gooey texture. The noodles had a gummy texture and the cheese made them stick together.





I didn't even know what half-and-half was until I looked it up:

https://www.allrecipes.com/article/what-is-half-and-half/

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Half-and-half is simply a mixture of half whole milk and half cream.

So milk, cream, butter AND cheese simultaneously added to one (originally dairy-free) dish! What is with the dairy obsession FFS?!

On the other hand, I accurately guessed what the chef looks like:

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2021, 07:30:35 pm »
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So milk, cream, butter AND cheese simultaneously added to one (originally dairy-free) dish! What is with the dairy obsession FFS?!

As a kid, the day I found out that you could make macaroni and cheese without the cheese was like a religious epiphany or something.

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« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2021, 09:27:09 pm »
Finally more people are catching on:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-patriotic-ziganwu-bloggers-attack-231422969.html

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A suggestion that children should drink milk for breakfast was taken as a sign that he was rejecting traditional Chinese breakfast - and values. "Isn't this too much worship of the West and fawning over foreigners?" wrote Pingminwangxiaoshi.

Just one thing: the term "foreigners" is too broad. Not all foreigners are milk drinkers. Also, this should never be about China rejecting all foreign influences, which would just end up becoming another form of bigotry. There is much from other non-Western civilizations that China should humbly try to learn from. What we are here to reject is Western civilization. Indeed these two points are connected, for the more China Westernizes, the more easily it will think it needs to learn nothing from other non-Western civilizations.
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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2021, 06:00:03 am »
A bit crass...but not as crass as what happens to billions of turkeys each year.




Another bizarre mentality--conflating animal welfare with how gourmet/expensive the meat was to produce:



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if we're interested in long-term change, we can't look at killing with kindness or gratitude as a solution in itself. ... But if we want to spend our precious time, energy and dollars to help farm animals, the simplest thing one can do is realize that we don't need to consume animal products to live healthy and happy lives.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/humane-meat-is-the-soluti_b_880731

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« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2021, 08:15:51 am »
While the world seems to have become more conscious of environmental, health and animal cruelty issues linked to meat consumption as witnessed in the increasing number of veggie restaurants as well as vegan options available in ordinary restaurants, it's frustrating to see a counter force coming from the Japanese who had been investing heavily over the past decades in producing ever higher quality meat (Kobe beef, dark-haired pig, Wagyu beef etc.) to plunge meat-eaters into sort of an addiction to craving for ever more expensive but "extremely tender" meat. As a girl describes:"The slice of Wagyu beef is like milkshake as it melts in my mouth!" Ugh!!