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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2022, 10:15:12 pm »
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/inflation-is-forcing-americans-to-change-their-diets-11655932733

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Inflation is forcing Americans to change their diets: ‘We make vegetable soup’

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The rise in the cost of living has prompted people to cut down on meat, and eat out less
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Some 72% of people who said they have changed their shopping habits reported they had cut down on their meat purchases, Morning Consult said.

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“A mother of two reported, ‘Sometimes, there is not much money. Like meat — you know today how much it has gone up in price. That’s why sometimes we don’t buy meat. Instead, we make vegetable soup,'” Martinchek told MarketWatch

I have been making vegetable soup most of my life. I currently have one in the fridge made of potatoes, carrots and tomatoes. I drink it without reheating, unlike some inferior people who eat hot food with the air conditioner turned on. (Also, unlike the meat-eater above, I have never reproduced. This is actually the best way to save money.)


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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #76 on: June 24, 2022, 09:21:45 pm »
And meat and dairy are heavily subsidized to make them cheaper. Imagine how much we could cut down on the consumption of meat and dairy by Americans, if we were to ever get the government to remove or at least reduce those subsidies so that people would be paying the ACTUAL (more expensive) price for it. Optimistically, if the current economic situation persisted for long enough, such a move would change our food culture here for the better, regardless of whether plant-based diets are openly promoted or not

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2022, 04:19:12 pm »
I usually only eat one full meal per day (lunch). At night, I only drink congee. I skip breakfast altogether.

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2022, 06:57:52 pm »
On a side note, I was counting on inflation making it economically untenable for subhumans like the above to reproduce, but so far there is not enough evidence to indicate that this is happening.

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #79 on: June 26, 2022, 09:30:41 pm »
On another note, I am looking to drastically simplify my meal. Because I am used to food from my ancestral country, most of the ingredients are expensive because they have to be imported. Additionally, they are only available at a store that is a little far from where I live, so there is also the waste of energy in transporting the ingredients.

I have looked into designing a dietary plan, but I can't quite figure how to do it without using Western nutritional terminology/concepts to determine what makes a "balanced" diet.

Do any of you have any ideas?

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2022, 09:59:33 pm »
"I can't quite figure how to do it without using Western nutritional terminology/concepts to determine what makes a "balanced" diet."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3686083/

Please use:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/re-psychological-decolonization/

to discuss the concepts further. I tried to bring it up in the past:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/re-psychological-decolonization/msg2282/#msg2282

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The first concept (common to many independently derived non-Western medical systems) that I suggest you try to grasp is hot and cold, which refers not to temperature but to the character of the food:



Which end of the scale do you prefer, tastewise? This will tell you something about what kind of nutrition is good for you. (Part of your answer is likely to vary depending on when you ask yourself the question. But there are also likely to be some constants independent of occasion, which should reflect your personality.)

"I'm a bit pedantic about knowing EXACTLY what's going into my body and if it's keeping me healthy."

The problem is that what keeps you healthy will not necessarily be the same as what keeps the next person healthy. You are an individual.

The real problem is that Western medicine does not treat people as individuals, instead callously treating us as particular cases of a generalization (hence RDAs). If you believe that knowing what's going into your body provides you with sufficient information to know if it's keeping you healthy, then even you yourself have failed to treat yourself as an individual!

What should be going into your body is not a set of rigid RDAs, but whatever is required by your unique body on each unique day as it interacts in real time with unique (and constantly changing) environmental conditions (habitat, weather, activity, stress, etc.).

"Being observational (what the people of the ancient times would have been, I suppose) just seems too... risky?"

What is more risky: trusting your own sensitivity, or assuming your body just happens to be the most average body in every parameter (which is what RDAs assume everyone is)?

And yes, if you have been Westernized, then the former really may be more risky at first. But we have a duty to recover as much as possible of the innate sensitivity that Western civilization has beaten out of us.

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #81 on: July 07, 2022, 03:21:55 am »
More Western inferiority exposed:

https://us.yahoo.com/news/aussie-tiktoker-explains-why-she-215053499.html

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An Australian TikToker living in Malaysia surprised her Southeast Asian followers when she claimed that people from down under use forks while eating rice dishes.

In her recent video, TikTok user Georgia says that Australians think that using a spoon to eat rice is unusual.
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Georgia told Malaysian news outlet Says that she only realized people use spoons for rice after living in Singapore and Malaysia. She shared that her friends and colleagues in Singapore would tease her for choosing a fork over a spoon.
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She noted that knives and forks are often used for most of the dishes in Australia, and spoons are meant for soups and desserts.

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I had an Indonesian friend who went to Canada and naturally ate rice with a spoon.  Her mother-in-law was so angry, she shouted at her.  "No spoon, no spoon, use fork!"  Sometimes, culture can turn to table manners and turn to rules.

Anyone who thinks it makes more sense to eat rice with a fork than a spoon should be prohibited from reproducing.

While on the subject of spoons, it is also worth nothing the engineering inferiority of Western spoons:





compared to the geometrically/ergonomically optimized:





As a matter of fact, American spoons had the latter structure prior to Western colonization:

http://www.gennisheyotrading.com/Native-American
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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #82 on: July 12, 2022, 03:05:59 am »
How about chopsticks?

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #83 on: July 14, 2022, 12:33:09 pm »
Obesity is a National Security Issue: Lieutenant General Mark Hertling at TEDxMidAtlantic 2012
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Lieutenant General Mark Phillip Hertling, is the Commanding General, US Army Europe and Seventh Army. In that role, he is the commander of the approximately 42,000 U.S. Army forces assigned to Europe, and he is the Army Component Commander of U.S. European Command. While Hertling's primary role is training U.S. Army soldiers and units for Contingency and Full Spectrum Operations, he is also responsible for Theater Security Cooperation and Building Partner Capacity with the 51 allied nations that are part of the European area of operation.




Colonization, Food, and the Practice of Eating
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The violence that accompanied the European colonization of the Indigenous people of Mesoamerica is a well-known fact. Historians have elaborated on the devastating effects such colonization had on Indigenous societies, cultures, and mortality. While the study of the conquest has generally focused on the social, political, and economic changes forced upon Indigenous populations, the matter of food—the very source of survival—is rarely considered. Yet, food was a principal tool of colonization. Arguably, one cannot properly understand colonization without taking into account the issue of food and eating.

Imagine that you are a Spaniard, newly arrived on the coasts of a foreign land. Your survival depends on two things: security (protecting yourself from danger) and nourishment (food and other substances that are necessary for survival). In terms of the former, Europeans arrived on the coast of what is now referred to as “the Americas” fully equipped with the means to protect themselves. Atop horses, armed with advanced weaponry and a slew of European diseases, Spaniards engaged Indigenous populations in the most violent of ways. Nourishment, however, was another matter.

When Spaniards arrived in Mesoamerica, they encountered the Maya, Aztecs and other prominent Indigenous groups. The land was rich, fertile, and filled with crops such as beans, pumpkins, chilies, avocados, elderberries, guavas, papayas, tomatoes, cocoa, cotton, tobacco, henequen, indigo, maguey, corn, and cassava.[1] Europeans encountered similar agricultural plantations throughout the region. However, to the colonists this food was substandard and unacceptable for the proper nourishment of European bodies. At the time of conquest, the European diet was principally composed of bread, olive oil, olives, “meat,” and wine. While this diet was somewhat sustained on the actual voyage from Europe to the Americas, upon arrival, Europeans found themselves devoid of the foods they considered necessary for survival. As Europeans began dying off in these “new” lands, the focus of concern shifted to food. In fact, Columbus himself was convinced that Spaniards were dying because they lacked “healthful European foods.”[2] Herein began the colonial discourse of “right foods” (superior European foods) vs. “wrong foods” (inferior Indigenous foods). The Spaniards considered that without the “right foods,” they would die or, even worse, in their minds, they would become like Indigenous people.
The Arrival of Cows, Pigs, Goats, and Sheep
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A number of domesticated animals were present when Europeans arrived in what is now known as Latin America. Among them were dogs, llamas and alpacas, guinea pigs, turkeys, Muscovy ducks, and a type of chicken. In Mesoamerica, any “meat” and leather that was consumed or utilized usually came from wild game, and generally, there were no animals exploited for labor, with the exception of dogs, who were at times used for hauling.. Europeans considered this lack of proper animals for work and consumption unacceptable. Thus, the first contingent of horses, dogs, pigs, cows, sheep, and goats arrived with Columbus’ second voyage in 1493.[5] The arrival of these hoofed immigrants would fundamentally alter Indigenous ways of life forever.
https://foodispower.org/our-food-choices/colonization-food-and-the-practice-of-eating/

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/turanian-diffusion/
                https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/antropocentricism-the-most-dangerous-ideology-in-the-world/






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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #84 on: July 14, 2022, 11:20:59 pm »
Another design reflecting Western engineering inferiority is the teapot which (rooted in Western aesthetics) demands reflectional symmetry and thus automatically positions the handle in the same vertical plane as the spout:











despite this actually makes pouring very inefficient compared to positioning the handle at an angle:











Western aesthetics just can't handle (pun intended) asymmetry.

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #85 on: August 05, 2022, 07:19:27 pm »
Success:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/weddings-milk-14-things-millennials-180000840.html

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here are 15 things that millennials are happy to drop from their budget.
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Dairy milk

When your barista asks if you want milk in your coffee, what do you ask for?

From oat to almond to soy, there are so many non-dairy milk alternatives on the market right now — and millennials are partly to thank for that.

Due to the rising popularity of vegan or plant-based lifestyles — and, let’s face it, an awareness that you’ve got lactose intolerance — dairy milk is becoming less likely to make it onto grocery lists.

Lots of millennials choose non-dairy milk for environmental reasons. According to a 2020 study by YouGov, one in five millennials have changed their diet to reduce their impact on the planet. Cost effectiveness also plays a factor, considering these alternatives have a longer shelf life than dairy milk.

Sorry to the die-hard dairy drinkers, it seems like oat milk is here to stay.

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #86 on: August 06, 2022, 11:28:44 pm »
Rightists don't even like the availability of non-meat options:



Also note how False Leftist Iadarola doesn't get why anti-veganism is a rightist position.

Note the following rightist meme:

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #87 on: August 09, 2022, 07:14:38 pm »
We are mainstreamed!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/civil-rights-groups-including-al-183758182.html

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Civil rights groups, including Al Sharpton-led organization, urge USDA to fix ‘dietary racism’ in school lunch programs

Twenty-eight civil rights and health care groups announced Tuesday they have requested that the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) address “dietary racism” in national school lunch programs, raising concerns to the federal agency about forcing millions of minority children to drink cow’s milk without allowing them a healthier alternative.

In a letter to the USDA’s Equity Commission, the groups said the National School Lunch Program (NSLP) only incentivizes dairy milk, a policy they called “inherently inequitable and socially unjust” because children of color are more likely to be lactose intolerant — meaning they cannot fully digest sugars in dairy and can suffer from adverse effects after consumption.
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“Black, Native American, Asian and Latino kids are being punished for their race and heritage.”

Exactly.

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According to the civil rights and health groups, 80 percent of Black and Latino people, more than 90 percent of Asians, and more than 80 percent of Indigenous Americans are lactose intolerant, compared to 15 percent of White people.

We are less on average less Turanian. Current USDA policy is designed to benefit the more Turanian.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/turanian-diffusion/

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“It is hard to imagine a more inequitable and socially unjust USDA practice than the force feeding of milk to [minority] children in our schools,” the letter reads.

And I was the first to start saying this many years ago.
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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #88 on: August 14, 2022, 06:19:33 pm »
Our enemies exhibit their "white" dietary fragility:

https://gatesofvienna.net/2022/08/a-holodomor-in-our-future/

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Price explosions: German supermarkets attach anti-theft devices to staple foods
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groceries now apparently have to be provided with anti-theft devices based on the English model: the first citizens seem to be driven to acts of desperation in view of the price explosions. This does not affect high-priced items such as champagne, but staple foods.

What do our enemies mean by "staple foods"?

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A supermarket in Berlin-Weißensee has now attached security markings to some types of meat — yellow stickers with the inscription “Secured article”. While cheap meat with the husbandry level one, such as rump steak, lamb skewers, steak from the prime rib of a young bull or Argentinean steak, is secured here, the yellow warnings in a Lidl branch in Tegel are for higher-priced meat (beef fillet, steak and soup meat).

The anti-theft devices also seem to be used in other supermarket branches. On Twitter, a user shared a photo showing the yellow stickers on butter. She wrote: “I think this is insane, Lidl! Have we gotten to the point where regular butter has to be protected against theft with a security tag?”
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Additional security measures are already being taken in Great Britain. Supermarkets from the chains Sainsbury’s, Coop, Tesco and Aldi provide baby milk, vitamin supplements, steak, cheese and butter.

Actual meaning of staple foods:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staple_food

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Typical examples include tubers and roots, grains, legumes, and seeds. Among them, cereals, legumes, tubers, and roots account for about 90% of the world's food calories intake.[1]

Early agricultural civilizations valued the foods that they established as staples because, in addition to providing necessary nutrition, they generally are suitable for storage over long periods of time without decay. Such nonperishable foods are the only possible staples during seasons of shortage, such as dry seasons or cold temperate winters, against which times harvests have been stored.

However:

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The dominant staple foods in different parts of the world are a function of weather patterns, local terrain, farming constraints, acquired tastes and ecosystems. For example, the main energy source staples in the average African diet are cereals (46 percent), roots and tubers (20 percent) and animal products (7 percent). In Western Europe the main staples in the average diet are animal products (33 percent), cereals (26 percent), and roots and tubers (4 percent).

All who consider animal products to be staple foods should be prohibited from reproducing.

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How could things have gotten so bad in Germany, which is said to be so rich that people are forced to steal the food they need because they can no longer pay for it?

How about getting used to eating more like how actual humans eat?

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Re: Dietary decolonization
« Reply #89 on: September 09, 2022, 01:52:48 am »
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/queen-elizabeth-impacted-eat-drink-175454559.html

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How Queen Elizabeth Has Impacted What We Eat and Drink

she had other food and drink indulgences like poached salmon, delicate tea cookies, and scones with jam and clotted cream. Here are a few others:
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The queen began every day with a pot of Early Grey, a traditional bergamot-scented black tea she drank with milk and no sugar. Her devotion to the flavor ensured its popularity throughout the world, making it the fifth most popular tea flavor globally, according to Fresh Tea. It is the tea most associated with royalty in general and Queen Elizabeth specifically, and there is no question that its popularity was enhanced by being her majesty's favorite.

We need to change this back:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longjing_tea#Legends

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Longjing tea was granted the status of Gong Cha, or imperial tea, in the Qing dynasty by the Kangxi Emperor.

Please personally try both side by side and taste the difference. Then you will know the aesthetical inferiority of Western royalty compared to non-Western royalty.

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Queen Elizabeth adhered to a daily teatime meal; her preference for delicate sandwiches with the crusts cut off was well-publicized. Her favorite version was reported to be smoked salmon with cream cheese.

I have encountered many restaurants which cut off crusts from sandwiches. We should try to reverse this trend. I try to ask for crusts to be included when ordering sandwiches.

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A longtime sportswoman, Queen Elizabeth frequently dined on venison, wild birds, or other game — often sourced on one of her properties — or salmon fished from the River Dee at Balmoral Castle. The queen's preference for game meats even extended to more casual meals; she was, reportedly, a big fan of hamburgers made with ground venison. She usually skipped any potatoes, pastas or grains at her evening repast, but almost always had room for dessert.

Just another subhuman. See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/'royal'-family-hate-thread/