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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #165 on: May 01, 2023, 04:57:32 pm »
How colonized is "South Africa"?

https://us.yahoo.com/news/south-africa-warns-putin-threat-142400739.html

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South Africa warns Putin of threat of arrest should he attend BRICS Summit in person
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"We have no option not to arrest Putin," a government official said. “If he comes here, we will have to arrest him.”

Last week, South African President Cyril Ramaphosa appointed a special government committee headed by the country's vice president to study the government's Vladimir Putin’s international arrest warrant, the newspaper reported.

This committee will not be able to find "any options that would allow Putin to come," the paper’s sources said. "The only option we have is for [Putin] to participate in the summit via Teams or Zoom from Moscow."



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They keep blowing the whistle before he shows up, don't tell him. Show some patience, invite putin and conduct a secret operation to detain him.

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Why warn him? Let hin show up then supriae him with a new shiny set of bracelets.

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Why warn him.. just do it

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Don't warn him... let him show up.

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the smart thing would be to encourage Putin to come. And, have the Navy SEALS waiting for him.

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« Reply #166 on: May 27, 2023, 06:38:46 pm »
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/1/france-criticised-at-un-over-police-violence-racism

It's OK for France to be "white".

France criticised at UN over police violence, racism
The UN’s Human Rights Council calls on France to reduce police violence and take steps to address racism.

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Paris was also called out for religious intolerance, attacks against migrants and racial profiling by several countries at the UN Council as members carried out France’s Universal Periodic Review (UPR) – a process all 193 UN countries must undergo every four years.

The US representative at the UN Council, Kelly Billingsley, said her country wanted Paris to “expand efforts to counter crimes and threats of violence motivated by religious hatred such as anti-Muslim hate, including cases of harassment, vandalism, and assault”.

Meanwhile, China urged France to “stop measures that violate rights of migrants” and Brazil and Japan highlighted the importance of stopping “racial profiling by security forces”.


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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #167 on: May 27, 2023, 06:45:45 pm »
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The US representative at the UN Council, Kelly Billingsley, said her country wanted Paris to “expand efforts to counter crimes and threats of violence motivated by religious hatred such as anti-Muslim hate, including cases of harassment, vandalism, and assault”.

Meanwhile, China urged France to “stop measures that violate rights of migrants” and Brazil and Japan highlighted the importance of stopping “racial profiling by security forces”.

Isn't it nice to see four former victims of Western colonialism unite to condemn a former Western colonial power? This is what we want more of!
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #169 on: June 09, 2023, 02:19:26 am »


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Russia has long been unpopular in Central Asia; they are regarded as racist and colonialists, and that goes back several centuries.

Russia and China are natural rivals and inevitably the relationship  will be difficult.

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China will understand that, in order to create a viable alternative from the West, it needs to ditch russia, and cooperate closely with India, South Korea, Indonesia, Japan, Vietnam and Thailand, with a genuine respect.

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one of these days China is going to liberate Russia from the Russians. and save the world

(Unfortunately, almost certainly not so long as Eurocentrist Xi remains in power.....)
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #170 on: June 17, 2023, 12:45:04 am »
Similar to what I have been saying:



Woke (and specifically regressive!) comments:

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Chinese civilisation and thoughts are very much indebted by the transmission of Mahayana Buddhism from India since the 1st century. Indian Buddhist scholar monks were well sought by the Chinese emperors to transmit their wisdom in order to strengthen their empires. Now China preserved many of the translated scriptures that the original Sanskrit version were already lost.

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The Chinese & Indian civilizations have been around thousands of years, contributing so much to the world. If only both countries can reflect on their rich historical past to overcome their adversarial politics for the betterment of both nations.

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The British had left a deliberate mess wherever they were ruling so that, as they calculated, they would be called or meddled if there was any dispute. Now, we have become pawns or victims to their game.

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The British Empire once planted  seeds of   discord  in colonies and will also want other ex- colonies and many countries to fight against one another too.

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Nearly every conflict you look at ... there is European colonial background to it

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In 2000 year of india and China history we have never fought with each other , but only in 1962 india and China relation become worst

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India and China are old civilizations. Both must address each others concerns and issues and put to rest the 60 year enmity. We had friendly relations for centuries, don't let the last 60 years define our future.

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A great master from china explaining the peaceful relations India had with china for almost 2000 years, which was spoilt by east india company (British). Now we Indians and Chinese needs to get back to our roots and establish a greater friendship based on trust, exchange of ideas and keep all the western powers at distance.

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India / China should look back into their historical relationship & renew better relationship for both countries

Contrast with (progressive) Manju Baturu:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/arctic-alliance/msg19571/#msg19571

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/arctic-alliance/msg19581/#msg19581

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/arctic-alliance/msg19583/#msg19583

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/arctic-alliance/msg20171/#msg20171
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #171 on: June 25, 2023, 03:52:32 pm »
This is what we need:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-stresses-common-threats-security-093000527.html

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China stresses common threats, security as it pushes for Iran-Pakistan engagement
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The dialogue is also aimed at bringing Pakistan and Iran together to coordinate on the "growing militant activities on the Pakistan-Iran border" - as a first step to strengthen trust and prepare for a future quadrilateral dialogue, which also involves Afghanistan, Khan added.
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Khan admitted that despite mutual intent, working with the Taliban government was "challenging" and further coordination with the Kabul authorities would be "a medium and long-term strategy" for Beijing.
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"The security and stability of [Pakistan, Iran or neighbouring] countries are closely related to China, as they are important, if not core, countries of the Belt and Road Initiative and the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor," said Yan.



History:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Persian_culture#History

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With the presence of Muslim culture in the region in the Ghaznavid period, Lahore and Uch were established as centres of Persian literature. Abu-al-Faraj Runi and Masud Sa'd Salman (d. 1121) were the two earliest major Indo-Persian poets based in Lahore. The earliest of the "great" Indo-Persian poets was Amir Khusrow (d. 1325) of Delhi, who has since attained iconic status within the Urdu speakers of the Indian subcontinent as, among other things, the "father" of Urdu literature.
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Persian as a language of governance and education was abolished in 1839 by the British East India Company and the last Mughal emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar, even if his rule was purely symbolic or ceremonial, was dethroned in 1857 by the British.

Pakistan's positive relations with both China and the US during the Cold War era should be recalled as often as possible as a way to restore the vision of America and China being on the same side:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Pakistan#Foreign_policy_of_Pakistan

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China has played a significant role in the development, economy and security of Pakistan, with relationship beginning in 1950 when Pakistan was among the first countries to enter into official diplomatic relations with the Republic of China (on Taiwan Island) and recognizes the People's Republic of China (PRC) on Mainland China as the sole representative. Since then, both countries have placed considerable importance on the maintenance of an extremely close and supportive special relationship[25][26] and the two countries have regularly exchanged high-level visits resulting in a variety of agreements. The PRC has provided economic, military, and technical assistance to Pakistan, and each country considers the other a close strategic ally.[27][28]

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The United States has played an important role in the young history of Pakistan, being one of the first countries to recognize their independence on 14 August 1947.[32] The relationship between the two countries went through varying levels of friendliness, but Pakistan consistently found themselves on the United States side of issues faced during the Cold War.[33]

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/military-decolonization/msg6761/#msg6761
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #172 on: June 25, 2023, 04:43:29 pm »
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/middleeast/2023/06/25/egypts-president-meets-with-visiting-indian-prime-minister-to-strengthen-ties.html

Egypt’s president gives highest honor to visiting Indian prime minister as ties improve

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CAIRO (AP) — Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi on Sunday bestowed Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi with Egypt’s highest honor as the two countries tightened their partnership.

El-Sissi welcomed Modi at the presidential palace in Cairo with the Order of the Nile, the Egyptian presidency said in a statement. The leaders signed a declaration elevating Egyptian-Indo ties to a “strategic partnership,” which means the two nations agreed to intensify their cooperation and hold periodic talks, the statement said.

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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #173 on: July 20, 2023, 08:33:43 pm »
Good work!



Will more formerly colonized countries follow suit?

Embassies are a Western institution in the first place. Non-Western countries practiced diplomacy for thousands of years with one another without any need for embassies.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #174 on: July 23, 2023, 06:35:15 pm »
This article gets the tone correct (it is about helping Iran find a better deal than what it currently has!):

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-irans-unprecedented-military-ties-213901384.html

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Less than a year ago, the White House was warning of "unprecedented" military ties between Russia and Iran, but today, there are signs of increasing friction, with Moscow proving to be an unreliable partner.
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Iran expected to receive an unspecified number of Russian Su-35 jets, along with helicopters and even advanced S-400 air-defense systems. Yet there is no indication Iran has received any equipment or will receive any of it the foreseeable future.

Analysts expected Iran would receive at least 24 Su-35s — aircraft Russia built for Egypt as part of an order that was later canceled — in the near future, but in recent statements, Iranian officials have gone from expressing optimism that the first jets would arrive in a matter of months, if not weeks, to making comments that suggest they are unsure if the jets will arrive in the coming years.

In a damning report published on July 13, Tehran-based journalist Saeed Azimi cited one current and one former Iranian diplomat who, under condition of anonymity, told him that Iran "fully paid" for 50 Su-35s during the second term of former President Hassan Rouhani, who left office in August 2021.

While the figure of 50 Su-35s had not been disclosed prior to Azimi's article, it fits with Iran's longstanding estimate that it needs 64 new fighters to modernize its aging fleet, which is mostly composed of US-made jets acquired before the 1979 revolution.

Moscow promised delivery of the Su-35s by 2023, which the diplomats quoted by Azimi doubt will happen. "Iranian officials feel embarrassment over Russia's failure to adhere to commitments," Azimi wrote.

As if to add insult to injury, in July, Moscow backed a joint statement by the Gulf Cooperation Council that supported the United Arab Emirates' claim over Abu Musa, Greater Tunb, and Lesser Tunb, three small but important islands in the Persian Gulf near the Strait of Hormuz.
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Interestingly, in response to Russia's move, Iranian state-run media played down their partnership, saying it was merely tactical and that Moscow is not a strategic ally.
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Russia sold Iran only six relatively low-tech Su-25 attack planes in the 2000s. In 2007, Iran signed an $800 million contract for Russian S-300 air-defense systems, but Moscow refused to deliver them for almost a decade, only transferring them in 2016.

The UN arms embargo on Iran officially expired in October 2020, leaving no international restrictions that Russia could use as a pretext for refusing to deliver weapons for which Iran has reportedly already paid.

With their partnership looking more and more one-sided, Iranians may ask what they are getting militarily or politically from aiding Russia.

Now is the opportunity for the US to replace Russia as Iran's arms supplier! This could be the beginning of the US re-alignment to side with former victims of Western colonization, eventually culminating in a US-Iran joint invasion of Israel!

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Iran making deals with a deadbeat.

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All you have to do is look at Russia's record on delivering similar promises to know you were going to get burned the moment the ink was dry.

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russia never holds up its end of any deal. It is already common knowledge.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #175 on: August 06, 2023, 12:15:38 pm »
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« Reply #176 on: August 15, 2023, 06:06:11 pm »
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/brics-currency-replacing-dollar-ridiculous-183341338.html

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A BRICS currency replacing the dollar is a ‘ridiculous’ idea, says the top economist who named the group—unless China and India become allies
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For O’Neill, the unhealthy relationship between China and India is one of the main reasons a BRICS common currency is so unlikely.
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“I often say to Chinese policymakers…forget your endless historical battles and try to invite India to share the leadership on some big issues, because then the world might take you a bit more seriously.”
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Harvard Business School’s Tarun Khanna wrote in the Harvard Business Review in 2007 that there was “mutual respect and admiration” for literally thousands of years, as the “Tea and Horse Road” powered the development of two great civilizations.
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“China and India can’t even really agree on basic things like a peaceful border. I mean, how on earth can people seriously believe these guys are going to introduce a shared currency?” he said. “It’s amusing. Sorry. I just think it’s fanciful.”

In the short term, then, it seems O’Neill’s prediction is accurate that a BRICS currency would be “ridiculous.” But thousands of years of history could tell another story in the long run.

It would be easier if it was BICS.

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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #177 on: August 16, 2023, 01:08:16 pm »
I suspect Russia is deliberately trying to discourage good relations between India and China by encouraging mistrust of each other. This in turn allows Russia to act as the “savior” for both countries.

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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #178 on: August 16, 2023, 03:01:05 pm »
"mistrust"

Do you mean distrust as in ceasing to trust (c.f. disuse, dislike, etc.) or do you really mean mistrust as in trusting someone who shouldn't be trusted (c.f. misuse, mistake, etc.)?

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« Reply #179 on: August 16, 2023, 08:19:38 pm »
Yes, distrust, sorry.