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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2021, 02:37:03 am »
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China is the only major country in the non-white developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened and say , No, I'm not afraid of you. Do your worst. I'm just as big as you are. All other countries in the Global south are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones, Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India - their leaders are busily listening to the United States , pen and paper in hand, writing down all its demands and going, Yes, sir, Mr. Yankee sir. Let me get on that right away for you.

This is not quite true. Iran has not submitted. On the other hand, China (unlike Iran) recognizes Israel, therefore saying China is standing up to the West is an exaggeration.

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We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China's time and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Will China withdraw recognition of Israel after it has become the greatest power on Earth? Perhaps it will, but I am not at all sure about this.

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What's going on now, this stupid new Cold War is nothing. For her first thirty years , from 1949 to 1979 , China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn't even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan's or Germany's GDP - not even able to prevent famine. And it still didn't submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now?

Actually:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Israel_relations

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During the 1955 Asian–African Conference, China expressed support for the Palestinian right of return, but refrained from denying Israel's right to exist and secretly pursued trade ties with the Israelis.[21]

But it's this line which I really dislike:

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China is a better place to live today than at any time in its previous 5,000 years.

This author is a despicable progressive who has just claimed that the present-day Westernized China is superior to the entire pre-Westernized historical China! I would infinitely prefer to live in any period of ancient China prior to the colonial era over China today:



I would also prefer to live in Deng-era China over China today, as we already discussed here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/msg6864/#msg6864

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/msg6866/#msg6866

Until Chinese people overwhelmingly feel the same way, China will keep going down the wrong path:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-gorges-american-grain-fed-032748928.html

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New York chain Wolfgang's Steakhouse, which has two restaurants in Beijing, opened another in the southern city of Shenzhen this year and has plans for a fourth in Hangzhou.

The restaurant flies in chilled U.S. beef before ageing it. Its 800g rib-eyes cost $150 apiece.

"Young people like meat, especially 20- and 30-year-olds who come here on dates," said Glen Feng, manager of the Beijing outlets.
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In China, USMEF has doubled the number of training events teaching local chefs how best to cut and slice

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dietary-decolonization/msg8450/#msg8450

Continuing:

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Aren't you at least curious to see a world with a non-white, non-Western leader might look like, after 400 years?

Very much so. Unfortunately, Xi is in many ways a Westerner with Chinese characteristics:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg8673/#msg8673

so we will have to wait at least until he retires or dies to possibly see one.

I also dislike this line of argument:

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You turn a blind eye to the country that gave you dozens of destroyed nations and millions of corpses to see as proof of its brutality, because it also gave you some amazing sitcoms!
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We've seen centuries of horror from the US and we're still giving "Murica the benefit of the doubt , even when the brutal truth is crystal-clear.

It was Western civilization that did the centuries of horror. It was America that did the (Counterculture-inspired) sitcoms. Giving America the benefit of the doubt simply means believing America will one day drive Western civilization out of the US. This is already happening:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/demographic-blueshift/

It is not necessary to be anti-US in order to be pro-China. This is a new bandwagon that many are jumping on, and I fear it will lead to yet another mistake that will not be corrected in time. I repeat: only the US and China working together is strong enough to defeat Western civilization.

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When I hear that China has built its own space station, landed a rover on Mars, extreme poverty, built the earth's biggest city, dam, telescope, 5G network, highway, air purifier, or whatever the heck it is that will come tomorrow - I feel the same pride as if I were Chinese. It's not happening for all of us , but it's happening for one of us and that's a start. There's got to be such a thing as developing-country nationalism - a common nationalism for all the countries that were colonized and plundered and remain economically and politically captured by their ex-rulers. A nationalism for the Global South. We are too divided , too brainwashed, too fooled and weak - most of us still worship the countries that destroyed us, are non-Western on the outside and Western on the inside

I agree in principle, but do you not see that China itself is in many ways Western on the inside? See the part in bold.

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and are leaving our countries in droves to let them burn while we "make a better life for ourselves" in the West. Do you want to live in a Western-dominated Earth for another 400 years? If you do, keep doing what you're doing. But I don't .

Wrong. Migrating to Western countries gives us a chance to transform them into non-Western countries. It is by ceasing to migrate to Western countries that ensures Western dominance will continue.

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NB: Please forward this message to as many people as possible so that the  non-white  world countries and people will wake up and realize how wicked and evil the white race people are especially the Five Eyes Anglo-Saxons of America, England, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other European powers like France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Italy, Sweden and Poland.

Why no mention of Israel among the list of villains (or anywhere else in the entire article, for that matter)? This causes me to wonder if this article is a Zionist psy-op. Remember that when Israel is done exploiting the US, its plan is to cause it to implode so that the US will be too weak to threaten Israel militarily by the time it turns anti-Israel ideologically. This article seems to be coherent with such an objective (also shared by Duginists, for their own purposes). In contrast, we are here to prevent (or at least minimize) a US implosion so that the US remains strong enough to return to the world stage on the side of the formerly colonized countries against all the Western colonial powers, thus fulfilling its historical destiny.
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