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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2021, 10:42:28 pm »
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take his uniform, considered to be a badge of honor and an act that would symbolically “take their power.”

Take it and burn it! Western power is to be destroyed, not appropriated for one's own use! This is Boromir Syndrome all over again!

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the influence of the early German colonial wares has led the Herero to adopt other more European elements of fashion. In this remote corner of the Namib, European style of dress has become a celebrated aspect of the modern Herero’s identity.



More from the first link:

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Herero women also affected the styles and the airs and graces of the Christian missionary ladies who had come among them in the 1890s.

Why do you want to become that which oppressed you?

Oh, wait:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_people

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Unlike most Bantu, who are primarily subsistence farmers,[2] the Herero are traditionally pastoralists. They make a living tending livestock.[3]

Turanians. This explains everything.....
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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2021, 06:17:03 pm »
It's weird how in children's stories it is popular for characters to have patches on their clothes from mending, but most adults would rather throw their clothes away if they get the tiniest hole.

I think things like mending one's clothes and thrifting old clothes is one of the simplest ways for an individual to start decolonizing their wardrobe. This is basically the bare minimum to reject consumerist-driven fashion trends.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Visiblemending/



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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2021, 10:38:41 pm »
I love mended clothes (as well as quilts etc.)! They are one of my favourite features in children's books. I mend clothes as much as possible. I still wear many of the clothes I was wearing when I was a teenager. Most of my peers can no longer fit into theirs, but I of course do not have this problem due to my superior somatotype.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge#Clothing_and_fashion

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The grunge look typically consisted of second-hand clothes or thrift store items
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As well, since women in the grunge scene wore the "... same plaid [shirt]s, boots, and short cropped heads as their male counterparts", women showed "... that they are not defined by their sex appeal."[104]

"Grunge ... became an anti-consumerist movement where the less you spent on clothes, the more 'coolness' you had."[105]

Technically speaking, it should be noted that Western clothes are uniquely incompatible with mending due to their topological complexity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gather_(sewing)

etc.

therefore it is definitely true that a pro-mending tendency will logically lead to recognition of Western inferiority.

For that matter, the topological complexity of Western clothes also makes them especially annoying to iron. I am reminded of Western inferiority every time I do ironing, especially when I iron Western and non-Western clothes back-to-back.
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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2021, 10:05:31 pm »
Western dress is out in Afghanistan!



(Now you see how slavish North Korea is in comparison.....)

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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2021, 10:57:06 pm »
https://globaltimesng.com/2021/08/07/hisbah-finally-comments-on-the-dress-worn-by-yusuf-buharis-bride-to-be-zahra-nasir-bayero-at-her-bridal-shower/

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The Hisbah Commission for the Promotion of Islamic Teachings in Kano State has finally reacted to the dress worn by Zahra Nasir Bayero, the daughter of the Emir of Bichi, during her bridal shower.

Zahra Nasir Bayero is to wed Yusuf Buhari, the son of the President of Nigeria, Muhammadu Buhari.
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Hisbah commander Sheikh Harun Ibn Sina told the BBC that the Sultan’s daughter is not above the law and should lead by example if she wants to be blessed in her marriage.





She should study Nigerian history:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/nigeria/

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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2021, 03:55:26 am »
More on the commendable achievements of the Taliban:

https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-58388333

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Afsoon can't remember the time in the 90s, the decade she was born, when the Taliban first banned beauty salons in her country.

But she grew up in an Afghanistan where beauty parlours were a regular part of her life. In the two decades since the US-led invasion that ousted the Taliban in 2001, more than 200 beauty parlours opened in Kabul alone, with hundreds more in other parts of the country.

As a teenager she would thumb through magazines and social media for glamorous looks, and she'd visit salons with women in her family.

She loved everything about that world. The multi-coloured nail painting, the make-up artists bent over women to paint smoky kohl eyeliners to frame thick brushed eyelashes on a dewy sparkling made-up face. The glossy blow-dries and swishy long hairstyles.
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Like all beauty parlours in Kabul, Afsoon's salon had windows that were entirely covered with posters of glamorous and elegant women advertising a promise of beauty that could be yours inside.
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But on Sunday 15 August, the day the Taliban took control of Kabul's presidential palace, her years of hard work ended in a day.
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"It is the end of the beauty industry in Afghanistan."

The accurate name of the industry is the cosmetics industry. There is nothing beautiful about it. Observe the Western styles advertized prior to being painted over:





https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/

And let's not even get started about Western cruelty:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmetic_industry#Animal_testing

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Animal testing has been a large controversy in the cosmetic industry. Animal tests performed include the Draize eye irritancy test, where test chemicals are applied to rabbits’ eyes and left on for several days,[25] and toxicity tests such as LD50, where a substance's toxicity is tested by determining the concentration at which it will kill 50% of the test animals.[26]

WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!

The last time we had any similar movement against cosmetics:

https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/hitler-hated-red-lipstick/

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According to Fedler, Adolf Hitler “famously hated red lipstick.” Madeleine Marsh, author of Compacts and Cosmetics explained: “The Aryan ideal was a pure, un-scrubbed face. [Lady] visitors to Hitler’s country retreat were actually given a little list of things they must not do: Avoid excessive cosmetics, avoid red lipstick, and on no account ever [were] they to color their nails.”

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg4434/#msg4434
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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2021, 10:39:31 am »
Why do so many women feel the need for makeup? Do you think it's an innate desire of most women to paint themselves literally into a what they believe is a better version of themselves? Or, do you believe it's mostly due to excellent Western marketing strategies? Lest we forget women's "beauty" and all the products related to it is almost beyond an obsession to most Westerners....

It is odd though that only women feel the need to paint themselves into something they are not, and most men do not. As pointed out on the main website, makeup is deception. Is it men's ideals of "beauty" that drive women to paint themselves daily?

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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2021, 12:15:59 pm »
I think the prevalence of nearly every Western woman wearing makeup is driven largely by marketing and social peer pressure from gender roles. In social circles where all the members are "basic" estrogen junkies and trend followers, there will be high conformity with trends and social pressures. But in social circles where pressure to conform isn't as strong (e.g. nerds, women who work on farms or other manual-labor jobs, certain types of feminists, even women from Western nations where the culture simply isn't as makeup-obsessed as the US, etc.), far fewer women will bother to wear makeup.

I recall reading some writing from ancient Greece lamenting how women would wear makeup to darken their eyebrows, etc, so this type of vanity has always existed.

And men in some non-Western cultures do commonly wear makeup. Although in this particular example it might largely be ceremonial, rather than for daily vanity purposes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohl_(cosmetics)#Kohl_and_Islam


But, regarding cosmetics, I doubt any time period has been as aesthetically-inferior as Western civilization has been in the past ~120 years since people like Edward Bernays treated advertising as a literal form of propaganda and psychological warfare. Non-Western cultures may have "beauty standards" (which can be good or bad), but I think it is only Western civilization which convinces literally everyone their innate look is ugly and that they need to change themselves with cosmetics.

According to the Western cosmetic industry:
People with straight hair need to curl it and use chemicals to "volumize" it. People with curly hair need chemically straighten it. People with light skin need to go tanning or use chemical treatments to darken their skin. People with dark skin need to use chemical treatments to lighten their skin (this is especially prevalent in non-Western nations which have been colonized!!) Etc, etc. The Western cosmetic industry doesn't even have any real beauty standards--it just exists to make people insecure to drive economic demand for new products.

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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2021, 11:33:24 pm »
https://us.yahoo.com/lifestyle/billie-eilish-lost-followers-corset-boobs-revealing-outfits-174425177.html

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Eilish rose to fame while sporting an aesthetic that included oversized sweatshirts and baggy pants, but lately has been exploring more form-fitted styles. In a recent Instagram post, she sported a corset with a lace bra underneath — something that drew the ire of trolls who disapproved of the change.

“People hold on to these memories and have an attachment. But it’s very dehumanizing," Eilish told the magazine, “I lost 100,000 followers, just because of the boobs. People are scared of big boobs.”

We win! You choose Western clothes (higher sexual dimorphism):



over Counterculture clothes (lower sexual dimorphism):



you get boycotted!

Which is not to say that you were ever part of the Counterculture, no matter how you used to dress:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/re-trump-disapproval-377/msg7248/#msg7248

but your latest style shift reveals who you really were all along: just another Westerner.

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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2021, 02:38:33 pm »


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A campaign promoting diversity among women and their freedom to wear the hijab has been dropped after it sparked an outcry in the secular French political establishment.
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“I was profoundly shocked,” Ms El Hairy said. “It is the opposite of the values that France defends, it is promoting the wearing of the hijab.

“This is to be condemned and because of this France made clear its extremely strong disapproval and hence the campaign has now been withdrawn as of today,” she said on Tuesday, confirming that Paris had issued an official protest through diplomatic channels.
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk-news/2021/11/04/eu-hijab-inclusivity-campaign-dropped-after-anger-in-france/

France's national motto is "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". I guess all three of those only apply to Westerners.


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And, just for fun:


This photo is probably not authentic (the shadows/coloration on his face doesn't match the rest of the body), and I can't really find any sources beyond the trash Daily Mail and other tabloids. But this is fun nonetheless:



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But this bizarre picture, which has only recently been uncovered, claims to show Adolf Hitler shunning his usual military attire for a floating, Japanese kimono.
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The exact origin of the picture is unknown but it is thought to have been taken in 1936, to commemorate the signing of the international pact between Nazi Germany and Japan.
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Earlier this year, a rare archive photo which the German leader had banned was discovered alongside several other embarrassing portraits in a Hitler ‘fan magazine’ from the Thirties.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3133517/Is-photo-Hitler-wanted-hide-world-Bizarre-image-appears-Nazi-leader-dressed-swastika-emblazoned-Japanese-kimono.html

I couldn't find much info on the "Beyond Belief Archive" that this photo supposedly originated from, nor does it seem anyone else was able to:
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=1953083&sid=62817c6f915b11308eb9b7f40e27427b#p1953083

If the image was genuinely from a fan magazine in the 1930s (photo manipulation did exist back then), then it shows his fans had no problem imaging him in non-Western attire.

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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2021, 03:45:08 pm »
Either the creator of those posters is a professional backlash herder, or we have a useful idiot on our hands. What really irks me about the "celebrate diversity" talk that's been making the rounds since the mid 2010s, is that it emphasizes our differences instead of making any sort of helpful statement of unity between immigrants and non-immigrants. It's also disrespectful towards Islam, since it implies that the hijab has no worth outside of being a fashion statement. Most people who wear a hijab, aren't doing so to stand out or to be some sort of exotic eye candy. And the theoretical end goal of mainstream Islam isn't to remain a perpetual segment of whatever population it's a part of either. It's to convert everyone to the religion, which isn't very conducive to "diversity". The funny thing is that, as mentioned in the article, our enemies see this as Islamist propaganda, whereas any real Islamist would take a look at this and realize that any sort of "Islamism" hidden in these posters has been completely neutered.
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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #57 on: December 03, 2021, 08:41:09 am »
Today, many countries even amongst non-Europe have neckties or bowties as service dress uniforms for military personnel.

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Re: Dress decolonization
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2021, 06:05:02 am »
More odd Western dress standards:



A child would ask: "...what is the point of even having an extra button if you're not allowed to ever button it?"

The "refined" Western adult would respond by beating them until they stop questioning and just conform with the buttoning tradition.


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A Quick History Lesson and a Fat King

Historically, in the early years of the suit as everyday menswear, it appears there were no formal buttoning rules. Look to trade magazines and illustrations from the earlier part of the 20th century, and one sees jackets with between one and five buttons, each buttoned in a manner that suited the personality of the wearer or the cut of the garment.

But much of this changed with a king who was too fat to button his jacket. Or at least, that’s what legend says.

According to the lore of menswear, in the early 1900s King Edward VII started the trend of leaving the bottom button of a suit undone.

Apparently, he grew so rotund that he was unable to fasten the bottom button of his waistcoat and jacket. To not offend the king, those associated with him started doing the same. The custom then gradually spread the world round (as England was still largely an imperial power with great influence across the globe).
https://www.artofmanliness.com/style/outfit-guide/art-of-manliness-suit-school-part-iii-a-primer-on-suit-buttons/

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« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2021, 08:50:41 pm »
Another inferiority of Western civilization is use of washing machines. Environmental impact covered here:

https://sitex-corp.com/environmental-impact-of-washing-machines/

For some time now, I have been hand-washing my clothes. This is what we should encourage for all wishing to decolonize. Besides being more environmentally friendly and less damaging to the clothes themselves, it also increases our emotional bond with our clothes, is good physical exercise and even helps awaken Aryan blood memory. I use cold water only (emulating how we used to do laundry at the riverside in ancient times all the way back to the Golden Age). Note that the idea of using heated water for laundry is Western also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing_machine

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In 1782, Henry Sidgier issued a British patent for a rotating drum washer, and in the 1790s Edward Beetham sold numerous "patent washing mills" in England.[4]
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As metal drums started to replace the traditional wooden drums, it allowed for the drum to turn above an open fire or an enclosed fire chamber, raising the water temperature for more effective washes.



Tumble driers (another Western invention, of course) are even more absurdly wasteful; I never saw any reason to use them. What is wrong with simply letting laundry dry by itself?



Yet I know of some Western residential compounds where it is actually forbidden to dry laundry outdoors, supposedly for the sake of maintaining the view! WTF?! I myself have always enjoyed the sight of hanging laundry! I think it enhances the local atmosphere:



Oh wait, I found the following story literally while typing up this post:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2239084/Now-thats-Chinese-laundry-Washing-hung-students-balconies-creates-bright-rainbow-patchwork-colours.html

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Very few Chinese people own clothes dryers so the majority simply hang their clothes out to dry naturally like these tenants at Hubei University of Traditional Chinese Medicine.

In its densely packed cities, the preference for outdoor drying usually means that a common view along residential streets is clothes, hanging from balconies, pinned to trees, or suspended from telephone and power lines.


So far so good, right? Now here comes the bad news:

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But in 2010, in Shanghai, China's largest metropolis, drying your clothes in the open was deemed archaic.

Authorities issued an edict banning the practice of hanging clothes out to dry deeming it as 'uncivilized.'

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