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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #60 on: January 30, 2023, 04:08:44 pm »
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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #61 on: January 30, 2023, 05:56:16 pm »
Both the Steppe blood memory rightists and the aboriginal blood memory False Leftists will mock the Aryan vegetarian diet as "unhealthy", "high carb", "low protein" etc. But these descriptions are only applicable to subhumans. Of course, this does not mean that everyone who does not have Aryan metabolism is non-Aryan, but those who put down the Aryan diet for these reasons definitely are. Among those with non-Aryan metabolism, there are still people who adopt veganism as it is the ethically superior choice, and hence they cannot be called non-Aryan.

Getting to the point, this guy's "do you even lift brah" comment is most likely a reaction to this attitude, and is an attempt to prove vegetarians are aesthetically "superior" by building their physique. This of course is a False Left attitude, as the True Left attitude is to simply reject the Western definition of "superiority" altogether.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2023, 05:12:15 am »
Indian rightist says Indian women are not bad looking, but that on average, "White" women are better looking than Indians:
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The problem is not that they're dark. The problem is that the average Indian woman looks nothing even close to even a single of these images
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Don't know if this is a Eurocentric attitude tbh. A Eurocentrist would claim that darker-skinned women are inferior to lighter skinned women, period.
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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2023, 04:04:35 pm »
Boromor Syndrome Turanist Indian vs Aryanist:

https://twitter.com/vakibs/status/1482444653978963971?s=20&t=WpF1AMvdnyUs1b6Gj7odOA
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I wish all Indians revert to the native Indian understanding of what "Ārya way" is: Ārya Dharma is to follow the Ṛta, the cosmic cycle. Making space for themselves by genociding people is the Mlēccha way, not the Ārya way.

Ārya and Ṛta are both derived from the root ऋ गतिकरणे.
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>they made space for themselves and ruled the world

Literally the Arya way
https://twitter.com/vakibs/status/1482272493293514753?s=20&t=WpF1AMvdnyUs1b6Gj7odOA
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British used chemical and biological weapons, assassination of competitors, ecological denuding by exterminating plant and animal species needed for indigenous people, and every other Adharma. By artificial famines and genocide, they made space for themselves and ruled the world.
https://twitter.com/AgentSaffron/status/1481608553098055692?s=20&t=WpF1AMvdnyUs1b6Gj7odOA
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British were clever, brave, adventurous, industrious, methodical, meticulous, curious, comprehensive, pragmatic, far sighted people.

That's how they went from remote poor island tribes to rulers of half the world.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2023, 07:14:32 pm »
"Boromor Syndrome"

I assume you mean Boromir Syndrome. What you posted is not an example of Boromir Syndrome, however. Boromir Syndrome would be saying it is bad for the British to have those characteristics, but good for Indians to have those exact same characteristics.

"Don't know if this is a Eurocentric attitude tbh."

It is. I explained this here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg199/#msg199

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The following is what goes on inside Eurocentric minds. When you tell them to imagine a generic "white" person, they automatically imagine an aesthetically idealized "white" person. Whereas when you tell them to imagine a generic [insert "non-white" ethnicity here] person, they automatically imagine an aesthetically mediocre [insert "non-white" ethnicity here] person. In other words, they let an idealized stereotype represent their image of "whites" in general, and mediocre stereotypes represent their image of "non-whites" in general. Once this double-standard is in place, then when they see average/below-average "white" people in real-life, they perceive merely flawed versions of the idealized "white" stereotype (therefore still fundamentally beautiful in their minds). Whereas when they see above-average "non-white" people in real-life, they perceive either merely upgrades of the mediocre [insert "non-white" ethnicity here] stereotype (therefore still fundamentally ugly in their minds), or - worse - partial resemblance to the idealized "white" stereotype (therefore beautiful in their minds, but only because they "look white"(!!!), instead of realizing that the beauty comes from resemblance to the ideal, not resemblance to the "whiteness", and it is Eurocentrism which spuriously superposed the "whiteness" over the ideal inside their own minds).

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2023, 08:13:13 pm »
"Boromor Syndrome"
Typo, sorry.

". Whereas when they see above-average "non-white" people in real-life, they perceive either merely upgrades of the mediocre [insert "non-white" ethnicity here] stereotype (therefore still fundamentally ugly in their minds), or - worse - partial resemblance to the idealized "white" stereotype (therefore beautiful in their minds, but only because they "look white"(!!!)"

The tweeter is an example of the former. However, they do not view them as "still fundamentally ugly" (as evidenced by their ambivalence towards darker skin), but merely a rarity. This could be a Turanist attitude as well, as the Turanist would view the average Indian as being far removed from the ideal Turanian phenotype. But by the same token, they should apply this standard toward "Europe". Then again, if we consider that "Europe" is more Turanized, then their criticism of Indians makes sense.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2023, 08:16:43 pm »
"Boromir Syndrome would be saying it is bad for the British to have those characteristics, but good for Indians to have those exact same characteristics."

Ok, but not necessarily a Eurocentric attitude though, right? Seems like a Nietzschean attitude tbh.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2023, 08:40:21 pm »
"not necessarily a Eurocentric attitude though, right?"

Originally, the concept of Boromir Syndrome was for describing non-Jewish "whites" who claimed to be anti-Jewish but who promoted emulating Jewish tribalism.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2023, 10:16:52 pm »
https://twitter.com/endianzamasu/status/1621138099916136449
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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2023, 10:47:08 pm »
The tweet you posted was in response to OIT which is also wrong (and is basically the equivalent of Wakandism):

https://twitter.com/frontierindica/status/1621135674190725120

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"The Out of India theory (OIT) is a controversial alternative to the Aryan invasion theory and proposes that the Indus Valley Civilization was the birthplace of the Vedic religion, which is the basis of Hinduism.

You should reply over there with our solution to this false dichotomy.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2023, 11:46:31 pm »
Actuallly, the tweeter themselves was not promoting OIT, but merely reposting what ChatGPT had said about it. As for the tweeter themselves, they make it very clear that they do not believe in OIT, but instead believe in "A"IT (aka Turanian diffusion).:
https://twitter.com/frontierindica/status/1620434062010900485
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Aryans did trickle in tho. We should be proud of our ancestors building civilization in this shithole and subduing+absorbing the natives.
https://twitter.com/akshai1993/status/1620430441118568450
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After bogus Aryans 'trickling in' theory, this new crackpot theory of Shakyans who are explicitly mentioned in Buddhist texts as being Suryavamsha Kshatriyas of Ayodhya actually being steppe Scythians is gaining popularity in the academia.

There is a bunch of other stuff on his TL where he denigrates average Indians for their IQ scores, speaks glowingly about Westerners, etc... Best we can do is reclaim "Aryan" from him. We can start by telling him how Suryavanshi Aryans are different from Chandravanshi Turanians

Although, the reply to his tweet gives a more charitable interpretation of what he means by "trickling in", its still a wrong view nevertheless, as it refers to Turanians as "Aryans":
https://twitter.com/chandraseniya/status/1620779534089060353?s=20&t=96_P-PClr2KeA2e1wUWLPQ
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IVC was not a shithole.. if you're implying the Aryans to have entered later on.
https://twitter.com/Redpilldbrahmin/status/1620780053331337218?s=20&t=96_P-PClr2KeA2e1wUWLPQ
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He was talking about the land and the natives (onges) perhaps?
Also by the time aryans arrived IVC had collapsed and its ppl had lost the capacity to rebuild those cities or hell even have proper wirting system, literature, science etc.
Aryans started from the scratch
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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2023, 12:20:33 am »
The problem with OIT is that it is still pro-Vedism, but merely wants to claim it is indigenous. So basically we have two groups of pro-Vedics (OITs and Turan-worshippers) who academically disagree with where Vedism came from (India or Turan).

What you need to insert into the discussion is a Vedism-bashing perspective that academically agrees with the Turan-worshippers that Vedism came from Turan, thereby allowing a pre-corrupt India to be imagined by those who never liked Vedism anyway.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2023, 03:28:13 am »
I agree, but the influence of Vedic culture on Hinduism is so enormous that IMO it would require a complete overhaul of Hinduism. Of course, I expect those with Aryan blood memory will side with us. BTW, take a look at this Turanist Hindu, praising Turanian Western architecture:
https://twitter.com/AASI_Amsha/status/1620982174219640834?s=20&t=2hc_y0fk1c3-FWvsVBRIig
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This is the spiritual center of the world's most powerful religion looks like.
Hindus need to shed off the feel good mentality they've internalized that beauty doesnt matter. It absolutely does. 



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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2023, 04:39:31 am »
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Hindus need to shed off the feel good mentality they've internalized that beauty doesnt matter. It absolutely does.

Here is the problem: these Hindus think they must claim that beauty doesn't matter in order to not be Eurocentrists, which already tells us what they actually consider to be beautiful.

What we need are anti-Eurocentrists who agree that beauty does matter but who are able to perceive that:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/

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This is the spiritual center of the world's most powerful religion looks like.

Anyone who honestly thinks serious Christianity can happen inside the above architecture knows nothing about Christianity. Serious Christianity happened inside architecture that looked like this:







And guess what? Sramanist architecture has a similar aesthetic to Cathar architecture!







This also brings me back to what I was trying to say to you over here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/facial-aryanism/msg17624/#msg17624

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They also go well with undecorative and even dilapidated architecture, as demonstrated in the video above (e.g. 3:53 the worn concrete and faded paint in the background). Aryan beauty is austere beauty.

You should try to build on this concept more. Imagine what the archetypical occupants of the above Sramanist caves look like.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2023, 04:43:34 am »
On that note, our enemies seem to be more optimistic about Hinduism than us, or at least than myself:
https://twitter.com/boosterdose916/status/1609900620865052673?s=20&t=2hc_y0fk1c3-FWvsVBRIig
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Hasidic Hindu
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Don't you think they are doing it because they feel this irrepressible need to revive the spirit of an ancient war religion? Modern Hinduism feels more like Neolithic Agrarian Cult than Steppe War Religion

BTW, note the profile name of the tweeter.
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