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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2021, 06:11:05 pm »
Our enemy Quentin Tarantino (previously covered) behaves exactly as you mentioned earlier in the thread, i.e. not even acknowledging Bruce Lee was an American:
https://twitter.com/franklinleonard/status/1410296810468298758?s=19
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There's a hell of a lot here, but I would like to start with the fact that BRUCE LEE WAS AMERICAN.
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Quentin Tarantino on Bruce Lee: "Bruce had no respect for American stuntmen, he was always hitting them with his feet...it got to the point where they would refuse to work with Bruce. He had nothing but disrespect for American stuntmen." https://www.indiewire.com/2021/06/tarantino-bruce-lee-hollywood-scene-critics-1234647709/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2021, 11:13:25 pm »
This is what happens when you put a Eurocentrist in charge of decolonization:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAP2B5M0raY



Just don't do ballet at all! We already covered ballet here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/msg43/#msg43

There are plenty of non-Western dance styles to choose from, either ancient or Counterculture-era! But Eurocentrists still can't get enough of the Renaissance.....

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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2021, 03:45:44 am »
https://supchina.com/2021/09/09/resurfaced-simu-liu-interview-spurs-nationalist-backlash-against-shang-chi/

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another prominent Chinese criticism that accused Simu Liu and his co-star Awkwafina of not being good-looking enough for their roles. At the time of the casting announcements, many Chinese netizens felt that the duo’s “stereotypical features” of “square faces and small eyes” conformed to “condescending Western perceptions” of Chinese people.

I was wondering how long it would take people to notice! Contrast:



Two of these actors broke through in Hong Kong before transitioning to Hollywood. The other two were given their breakthrough roles by Hollywood. Why is it so easy to tell from their face shapes which are the former and which are the latter?

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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2021, 05:25:53 am »
The latter two faces do remind me of my days in the UK - the lady is typically found at checkouts in Chinatown supermarkets while the guy's the one moving goods around and stockpiling. Those were the days!

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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2021, 01:19:08 am »
The worst are the Eurocentrist False Leftists who turn around and in effect accuse those who dislike the ugly looks of Liu/Awkwafina of being Eurocentrist(!). Their reasoning is that "Asians" should force themselves to find beautiful the Western caricature of Chinese looks, or else they are guilty of upholding "Western beauty standards" by demanding that Chinese leading actors look better. Those who fall for this are now absurdly pretending not to notice that Liu/Awkwafina have subhuman faces, thinking that such pretence is displaying "Asian pride", when in reality they are just being useful idiots.

The truly proud are those confident enough to openly call out the Western caricature itself as Eurocentric. Yet they are the ones being labelled as Eurocentrists simply because they prefer more Aryan highly evolved faces on lead roles (regardless of ethnicity). The true Eurocentrists, of course, are those who think "non-white" lead roles are not entitled to be represented with Aryan highly evolved faces.

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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2021, 10:04:36 pm »
OK, Psychic Force is a 3D(!) video game from the late 90s, but I am not trying to promote it, so please bear with me. Here is an excellent example of Western obsession with sexual dimorphism. In the original (non-Western) voice acting, Emilio's voice sounds like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS1_esRuiOU

ie. low sexual dimorphism.

Whereas the Western dub made his voice sound like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj-YQXwr994

ie. biologically masculine but stereotypically effeminate (fruity, to use the offensive term - it is Western civilization being offensive!).

It's not as if the Western developers didn't have the original voice to refer to. It's that they knew what the original sounded like but just refused to use a similar voice due to their own Western values! (And of course making it even more of a joke is that they neglected to dub over the in-battle voice effects, so we still get Emilio's original voice during battle, but get the fruity dub for the cutscenes.....)

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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2021, 11:49:53 pm »
Here we go again:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-photographer-sorry-small-eyes-045447634.html

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A Chinese fashion photographer has apologised for her "ignorance" after a picture she shot for French luxury brand Dior sparked outrage.

Chen Man's photo showed a woman who some Chinese netizens said perpetuated Western stereotypes of Asian faces.
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Dior said the photo, which was recently displayed at a Shanghai exhibition, has since been removed.
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"The photographer is playing up to the brands, or the aesthetic tastes of the western world."

Chinese social media users echoed this, Ms Chen's photos were an "insulting" portrayal of what those in the West believed Chinese women looked like.

"This is how Western people think we look," said one user on Weibo, adding that Chen Man had played up to this. Many added that they would boycott the luxury brand.

BOYCOTT DIOR!

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Some Chinese Internet users pointed out that the photo was reminiscent of Ms Chen's photo series dated 2012, which she had shot for i-D Magazine.

Judge for yourself:

https://photographyofchina.com/blog/chen-man

The Eurocentrism runs deep in this one.....

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"Why can't a Chinese woman with small eyes also be considered beautiful? I don't see any problem with this."

It's not the eyes, it's the face shape! Here is an example of a Yue type Aryan face + small eyes:



But Eurocentrists will never show you this combination because it destroys the stereotype they want to promote.
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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2022, 10:35:39 pm »
Why does the Western fashion inudstry seem to have a particular penchant for colonialist attitudes?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/french-fashion-brand-under-fire-191846818.html

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A French fashion brand is under fire for a photo shoot involving indigenous women in southern Mexico
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The video shows members of Sézane's production team photographing and filming an older indigenous woman, Guillermina Gutiérrez, apparently wearing a mix of traditional clothing and Sézane apparel. A member of the Sézane team then asks Gutiérrez to dance as the cameras film. A pop song plays in the background.

The video was reposted across several Instagram accounts and websites, drawing widespread criticism for appearing to manipulate the indigenous woman into serving as a part of the brand's commercial campaign.

In an interview with Milenio, a Mexican news channel, Gutiérrez said that the Sézane team changed her clothes multiple times. She said she had to stop her work at her small craft shop.

When the shoot was over, she said, "they didn't give me anything."

In a statement this week, the Mexican government's National Institute of Indigenous Peoples (INPI) said that it "strongly condemns the misuse of the image of indigenous Zapotec women by the French clothing brand Sézane."

"These actions threaten the dignity of peoples and communities and reinforce racist stereotypes about indigenous culture and traditions," the institute said.
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Last year, Mexico's government accused fashion brands including Zara and Anthropologie of appropriating designs and patterns from indigenous groups without crediting or paying those communities. The Culture Ministry said that Zara had used a design created by the indigenous Mixteca community in a mint-colored dress with green embroidery.

The design "reflects ancestral symbols related to the environment, history and worldview of the community," the ministry said.

In 2019, it also accused the designer Carolina Herrera of "cultural appropriation" for copying the floral embroidery used by indigenous communities in the state of Hidalgo.

Mexico's president weighed in on the debate in 2019, saying, "designs from the indigenous cultures of Mexico are constantly being plagiarized."

Be sure to boycott all the brands listed above.

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Re: Psychological decolonization
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2022, 07:31:30 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfLWiPXRvrs


Do the advertising agents honestly believe that the idea of Chinese girls dating 'white' men would boost the sale of their clients' products? Or is it their hidden agenda to promote this trend by making Asian girls in general and Chinese girls in particular fall for the idea? I've seen too many of these ads over the last 2 years, and here's another one.....

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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2022, 02:21:23 am »
.....besides, these 'white' guys usually have hair on their face.....Is it to highlight the contrast from Asian males who usually have a clean, shaven face?

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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2022, 02:37:45 am »
"" around "Asian", please. It is a Western concept which we do not take seriously.

As for facial hair, we cover it here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg461/#msg461

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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2022, 11:21:06 pm »
Are Chinese aesthetics finally improving? As recently as last year, the Chinese New Year celebration was still colonized:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsOSy8Pj5mI

This year, ancient China is back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlcD-ZKeEC0
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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2022, 12:22:32 am »
I would say there is a marked improvement: while the 2021 piece is still very much "western" oriented with its ballet-based choreography, Parisienne cabaret-style costume, Hollywood grand-glitz stage setting, Disney fairy-tale theme and backdrop, as well as classical orchestral and vocal background music, the 2022 performance exhibits the simple but elegant attire of ancient Chinese women with neat, streamline hairstyle that's typically seen in traditional Chinese paintings. This first impression of the 2022 performance invites the observers' focus amidst the plain-coloured visage on the dancers, allowing them to subconsciously know what's coming i.e. the very beautiful Chinese landscape painting simply done by ink and brush.
Besides the striking contrast between the two in the former's colourfulness and the latter's colourful-less, what distinguishes the high style and dignity of the one from the other is the facial expression of the performers, a crucial element that contributes greatly to the rediscovery of the Chinese air that genuine Chinese art and culture should exude.

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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2022, 02:31:21 pm »
I actually thought that was pretty good too. Certainly an expression of the ideal for unity as well.

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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2022, 08:13:08 pm »
Good point about the facial expressions. My personal favourite aspect of the decolonized performance is, immediately following the solo by the leader (2:38-3:00), we get a mini-solo by one of the followers (3:00-3:07). This is a good reflection of succession between individuals via heroic inspiration (another element absent in the colonized performance), which is also a classic wuxia value. This is the same theme celebrated by the lyrics (easily among my all-time favourites) of this Counterculture-era song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9rLE3r8-j8

Hopefully this is a sign that China is beginning to appreciate authentic Counterculture sentimentalism?

(Also recall Zea_mays' comment here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg6474/#msg6474 )

Anyway, this reminds me that I still have to repost the precolonial aesthetics topic from the old forum.....